Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous. I'm good. How are you well?
Speaker 2: You just said hello gorgeous.
Speaker 1: I thought thought directed at you. You.
Speaker 3: Jenna willis my listeners? Who are my friends?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: I feel like every time I see you in the
Speaker 3: morning at this hour, you're telling me to do something
Speaker 3: that I truly don't want to do. But I leave
Speaker 3: feeling like my ass is perkier than normal.
Speaker 4: It is fact.
Speaker 1: By the way, what is that.
Speaker 3: Like when you know how you get to the gym
Speaker 3: and you're like, okay, today's leg and butt day. Is
Speaker 3: it just like the muscles that are getting swollen so
Speaker 3: it looks perkier than blow.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're opening like the muscles up? Is that what
Speaker 2: it is?
Speaker 4: We're not opening them up, You're bringing blood flow to them, right,
Speaker 4: and blood flow.
Speaker 3: Experience that makes There's so many times where I'll see
Speaker 3: people doing something before, like a workout shoot, and I'm like, girl,
Speaker 3: you should have been doing that the whole time, Like
Speaker 3: why are you just doing it now? Like she looks good, right,
Speaker 3: but you do think like you're not gonna get a
Speaker 3: six pack.
Speaker 2: Right now in twenty minutes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but now it's making sense.
Speaker 2: But when she starts doing her crunches, it appears.
Speaker 4: Those like fab five minute workouts don't work well.
Speaker 3: Actually, there's a lot of questions that will address in
Speaker 3: the bonus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so crazy because.
Speaker 3: No matter how many times I have you on. Yeah,
Speaker 3: every time I post that I'm having you on and
Speaker 3: doing a Q and A, my little inbox thing is flooded.
Speaker 1: Yes with yes.
Speaker 4: That makes me so happy because then it just means
Speaker 4: people care about their health and wellness and we want
Speaker 4: to make change.
Speaker 1: They do.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, most people are like me
Speaker 3: and they're like, I want this, but I want to
Speaker 3: change nothing right, So so how do we do that?
Speaker 1: No, but there is a way to slow roll yourself.
Speaker 3: And I'm excited to talk to you about this, which
Speaker 3: we're really going to deep dive into obviously on this episode,
Speaker 3: but the bonus will be really focused on that. So,
Speaker 3: Jenna willis you have been my friend, as people know
Speaker 3: for over ten years now.
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 1: Is that wild? I can't.
Speaker 4: We don't have to talk about that one of the
Speaker 4: first I mean, when we were twelve. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Well, we're both grown.
Speaker 5: Af I remember you flew to Utah, yeah, and I
Speaker 5: was still living there and picked you up.
Speaker 2: We went out and got like. We went to like
Speaker 2: a hotel bar.
Speaker 4: We went to the mall, the mall, Jena.
Speaker 2: That was the first time I was I'm not lying either.
Speaker 2: That was nervous. I was like, I'm just about to
Speaker 2: hang out with Lauren's friend. And then we started hanging
Speaker 2: out and I was like, no, it's my friend. It
Speaker 2: was so fun.
Speaker 3: Me and my friends, Jenna, Mom and myself drove to
Speaker 3: Park City for lunch shop and Mom and I ended
Speaker 3: up getting lit was that eleven dropsy.
Speaker 1: Baby. It was a wild Jenna had to drive us home.
Speaker 4: I like, ladies, it's okay back there, quiet down, please,
Speaker 4: And then they're crying and then they're laughing. My dad
Speaker 4: had just died.
Speaker 1: Oh that was so dark.
Speaker 3: It was We went to like McK finnigan's or whatever.
Speaker 4: Best time.
Speaker 1: No, it was great.
Speaker 4: That's the best time. And I love Utah.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 4: I had such a great time with you guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, Utah is a beautiful place. So my routine with
Speaker 3: Jenna because we're homies. Yeah, but what I love about
Speaker 3: our friendship. And I said this because you make an
Speaker 3: appearance on the Valley this season, and I don't really
Speaker 3: know which way right now that goes. But I've been
Speaker 3: asked about it, and I'm not going to say too much,
Speaker 3: but I have said because I participated in the after
Speaker 3: show and your name appears, and I said, you know,
Speaker 3: my friendship with Jenna is one of the most healthy
Speaker 3: and productive friendships that I have. It's a friendship where
Speaker 3: you know, we are healthy together. H a friendship where
Speaker 3: we can really talk about everything and shoot it straight.
Speaker 3: It's it's a game of uh, as my mom would say, tennis,
Speaker 3: where the conversation goes back and.
Speaker 4: Forth because we know some that don't we know somewhere.
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, so this dinner is going to be
Speaker 3: someone talking at me the whole time.
Speaker 1: You leave feeling a little exhausted.
Speaker 3: You know everything about them, they know nothing about you.
Speaker 5: You know their cat's name, you know their dead great
Speaker 5: grandfather and what he did.
Speaker 2: You're like, okay, what about me? And my mother and I.
Speaker 3: Had a good day, so like I have pre cancer
Speaker 3: in my It's like, well, now that we're paying the boat, yeah,
Speaker 3: everything's fine. You next time.
Speaker 1: Really, you don't give a shit, but.
Speaker 3: I'm so happy to know what your great great grandfather.
Speaker 5: And why you are here because of him.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I'm still laughing or crying both the combination.
Speaker 2: Of the two. It hurts because it's true, and you
Speaker 2: want to cry because it won't.
Speaker 1: Change exactly exactly.
Speaker 3: That is all about acceptance, accurate way it accepting.
Speaker 4: It is acceptance.
Speaker 3: Going through life, is going through the five stages of good.
Speaker 2: Don't you think, what is it? Acceptance? No, it's like grief, acceptance, anger.
Speaker 3: Anger, and then finally acceptance.
Speaker 4: And here we are, and here excepting where we're at.
Speaker 3: Jenna has worked me out and been my homie for
Speaker 3: a very long time. You've worked me out through both
Speaker 3: of my pregnancies. You've worked me out after the pregnancies.
Speaker 3: And how are routine and day starts?
Speaker 5: You?
Speaker 1: Guys? I love it? I love it too, So I
Speaker 1: told her I'm back at it.
Speaker 3: I'm how what was I two three months postpartum something
Speaker 3: like that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you were cleared?
Speaker 1: I was cleared whatever? Six weeks after? What is that?
Speaker 4: The month and a half The most of them you
Speaker 4: can really start is about six weeks, right, That's like
Speaker 4: the earliest you could start, and you want to start
Speaker 4: very very very minimal, right, And we were after that?
Speaker 4: I think I think we were eight to ten. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because you know, I'm very careful about everything, which I
Speaker 4: respect and I love.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: You don't put pressure on people, which is also what
Speaker 3: I like.
Speaker 4: Ah, that's not my style, you know. I think everyone
Speaker 4: needs to come to acceptance with when they're ready. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and only you can make that decision, right because and
Speaker 4: I'm there to facilitate it and help you make change
Speaker 4: and push you as far as you can go. But
Speaker 4: it's not my job right to force you to exercise, like,
Speaker 4: that's a decision that you need to make when you're
Speaker 4: ready to prioritize your health and wellness. Going back to acceptance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, exactly. You know our morning routine, I Jenna comes.
Speaker 3: If we want to plan our workout, Let's say we
Speaker 3: want to start at nine, She'll come around eight, eight
Speaker 3: thirty because we like to get our coffee, a.
Speaker 2: Little chit chat, a little chit chat. Still the tea.
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, you gotta go over the
Speaker 4: daily tea.
Speaker 1: It's so happy.
Speaker 3: It is a lot happens in our lives in forty
Speaker 3: eight hours.
Speaker 1: It does.
Speaker 3: And you're one of the safe spaces for me where
Speaker 3: I can talk freely about anything and everything, and I
Speaker 3: know that it's going into a vault. I know that saying,
Speaker 3: and like, I love talking to my mom, but sometimes
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, like I've had enough of.
Speaker 4: It's a little different. It's a little different opinion. It
Speaker 4: is no and that's okay.
Speaker 5: You get different answers talent then you kind of want
Speaker 5: from a friend. Yeah, you get the motherly answer or
Speaker 5: the parent answer, and you're like, I get that.
Speaker 2: I know that an answer. I don't want it. That's
Speaker 2: why I'm not talking to you.
Speaker 3: Well, mom's answers immediately fuck them. They don't deserve to
Speaker 3: be your friend.
Speaker 1: That's not mine.
Speaker 3: Little bit of a productive like you know, you're my mom,
Speaker 3: you're my mom.
Speaker 4: That is normally where I'm like, okay, why don't we
Speaker 4: take a beat, think this through, m resonate, ruminate a
Speaker 4: little bit.
Speaker 3: What did you do to participate in that behavior?
Speaker 4: I will always challenge you on that.
Speaker 3: But that's why I think I said in the after show,
Speaker 3: which you guys will see what I said, and I
Speaker 3: stand by you being one of the healthiest friendships.
Speaker 1: I have and have ever had.
Speaker 3: It means a lot and I thoroughly enjoy the process
Speaker 3: that goes into not only the cherry on top which
Speaker 3: I think is the body for me. Like a lot
Speaker 3: of people, they start working out because they want a
Speaker 3: perky butt, they want a tone's stomach, whatever, whatever the
Speaker 3: case may be.
Speaker 1: I know that that will come. But the way that.
Speaker 3: I leave a workout it sets the tone for the
Speaker 3: entire day mentally. Yeah, so thank you for that.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about are working out and all
Speaker 1: those things.
Speaker 3: But you also which we didn't get to cover the
Speaker 3: last time. You are thirty eight, thirty eight, you look great.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: You were my.
Speaker 3: Age and you thank you.
Speaker 4: Of course she does, she works out, she's care of herself.
Speaker 2: I thought I do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I thought you're in your late twenties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I'm trying to be.
Speaker 4: I feel like I just like start shouting it out, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm I'm thirty eight.
Speaker 2: I thought you two were the same age.
Speaker 3: I think I'll be thirty five this year.
Speaker 1: But I think that.
Speaker 3: The j Lo's and the Kim Kardashians and the Gwen
Speaker 3: Stefani's have really shifted the game.
Speaker 1: And people can say, well, they.
Speaker 3: Have access to like the best doctors, and they have
Speaker 3: access to injectables and all the things.
Speaker 1: Great, don't care regardless.
Speaker 3: They look amazing and no matter what their faces look
Speaker 3: like due to whatever work they've had. I'm sorry the
Speaker 3: way they get up on stage and poplock and drop
Speaker 3: it to the fucking ground. Yeah they are putting in
Speaker 3: Oh my god, because I feel like she hasn't had
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of work.
Speaker 2: If we're going to talk.
Speaker 5: About not having work, I feel like she's naturally beautiful and.
Speaker 4: I haven't done work.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Like, it's just a different day and age, and
Speaker 3: I think people have access to googling and saying like, oh,
Speaker 3: this does not do to my body what I thought
Speaker 3: it would do, and there's just information at the tip
Speaker 3: of our fingers. But you went through a fertility journey
Speaker 3: what a year and a half ago?
Speaker 4: Yep?
Speaker 1: What was what was that like?
Speaker 3: Because you and I talk about this all the time,
Speaker 3: us getting older, wanting to create a family.
Speaker 1: The dating world is.
Speaker 3: Grim like it hotter in here? I know?
Speaker 1: Actually did fill my pips get a little?
Speaker 2: Are we going here?
Speaker 1: What was the point for you?
Speaker 4: I mean there were a few levels of it, you know.
Speaker 4: The point was to be able to take pressure off
Speaker 4: of the dating life, okay, and and give me those
Speaker 4: few extra years to give me the opportunity. How you did.
Speaker 4: If I get to a point in my life where
Speaker 4: you know, I want to bring a child into the
Speaker 4: world on my own, I can.
Speaker 3: So you would be open to that. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: I have people.
Speaker 4: You're like, good, we have a year end and so
Speaker 4: we're doing that.
Speaker 3: I have a third I would like a friend to
Speaker 3: participate with me.
Speaker 1: So I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2: You're on her schedule. Now, You're ready to a.
Speaker 3: Lot of people that I've had on the podcast who
Speaker 3: go through a fertility journey and they freeze their eggs
Speaker 3: and they're ensuring that when they find a partner, when
Speaker 3: that time comes, they have eggs that are one hundred
Speaker 3: should they not be creating anymore?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: But the biggest, the biggest factor in that is if
Speaker 3: I don't find a partner, then I don't need to
Speaker 3: be a mom. So you're saying that you would go
Speaker 3: the route of choosing to be a single mom.
Speaker 4: I lean way more towards being a single mom than
Speaker 4: not being a mom at all now, of course, and
Speaker 4: you say this the most out of anyone, which, by
Speaker 4: the way, is one of the things I love the
Speaker 4: most about you. Whenever anything happens, he said, I'm being guided.
Speaker 4: You have to trust in God in the universe. Yeah, right,
Speaker 4: And everything happens for a reason, and you know I
Speaker 4: get I mean you know this by now. I can
Speaker 4: get very emotionally worked up, so can you. That's probably
Speaker 4: why we're so close, because I'm like, I'm going to
Speaker 4: fuck somebody up and then we're like, oh, I'm good,
Speaker 4: I let it out right yea. But what you always
Speaker 4: come back to is everything happens for a reason. And
Speaker 4: I think it's hard to predict what the future holds,
Speaker 4: you know, but in this moment right now, I absolute
Speaker 4: would go that path over never having a child.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 4: The factors that play into it, of course.
Speaker 5: So you see the relationships and how coparenting looks, it's like,
Speaker 5: why even risk that, you know?
Speaker 4: Well, I think, yeah, you know, I think it goes definitely,
Speaker 4: But there's always factors that make it scary, whether it
Speaker 4: is doing it alone, whether it is having a partner
Speaker 4: that can become anyone, right and anything at any point.
Speaker 3: What what are the factors doing it alone? What are
Speaker 3: the things that way heaviest on your mind with that time?
Speaker 4: Energy, sleep, work, financial, I mean there's a lot, yeah,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of factors that play into And we
Speaker 4: live in Los Angeles, which is what now is it?
Speaker 4: Is it the most expensive city in the United States
Speaker 4: or is it your.
Speaker 3: I think it's in the top five. I know New
Speaker 3: York and San Francisco.
Speaker 4: I mean it's and think about it, right, Having help
Speaker 4: is real. Doing it all is not easy, that's for sure.
Speaker 3: Well, I was talking to a friend today who has
Speaker 3: a conventional thing happening, very traditional.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: And you know, any sort of talk about finances takes me.
Speaker 1: To a place of PTSD, right, because.
Speaker 3: It reminds me of when the two thousand and eight
Speaker 3: recession happened and my dad lost everything, And it was
Speaker 3: the first time that I saw my parents' fight where
Speaker 3: there was no remedy for the situation unless a pile
Speaker 3: of money dropped into the household. It was a conversation
Speaker 3: that still to this day when someone says we had
Speaker 3: an argument about finances, I'm like, oh, my gosh, I
Speaker 3: have a knot in my throat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And they were talking about how you know, he works, she's.
Speaker 3: A stay at home mom. Some debt had been collected
Speaker 3: on a credit card, because that's what happens. It's expensive
Speaker 3: to live, right, And like she said, you know, if
Speaker 3: I go and get a job, I'm probably going to
Speaker 3: be making as much as I would have to pay
Speaker 3: someone to come in to.
Speaker 1: Watch the kid.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: So there's such true it's wild. However, when I think.
Speaker 1: About that, I go to a place of.
Speaker 3: When there's a dynamic between a husband and a wife,
Speaker 3: or just a partnership man and man, woman and woman,
Speaker 3: when there's intimacy that has now entered the chat, it
Speaker 3: just adds another layer of stress. There are stressors in
Speaker 3: my household. But because there's not the intimate factor, because
Speaker 3: it's me and my mom or me and.
Speaker 4: Easting, I think it's easier to set boundaries.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's easier to set boundaries because the moment that
Speaker 3: you're not getting along with your partner, what do you
Speaker 3: stop doing? You stop being intimate with them. Yeah, there's
Speaker 3: another layer of stress that goes into that. So when
Speaker 3: I hear that someone wants to be a parent on
Speaker 3: their own, you are going to have the same amount
Speaker 3: of stress that a couple has.
Speaker 1: But actually you get to eliminate one of the stressors,
Speaker 1: which is dealing with a partner.
Speaker 5: That's true, but that with that stress comes many of
Speaker 5: stresses you know, but with the partner. Eliminating the partner,
Speaker 5: you're eliminating financials, You're eliminating so many things underneath just that,
Speaker 5: you know, because the partner brings so many other things.
Speaker 5: I agree, So like, eliminating the partner eliminates so.
Speaker 2: Much more than just that.
Speaker 4: Have you guys heard of dinks? This term called dinks?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 4: Dual income no kids. It's like a new thing.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah all the time.
Speaker 4: But you know, yeah income no kids and they just
Speaker 4: buy the most ridiculous things or they're like all the
Speaker 4: time and they're like, and how do we afford this?
Speaker 2: I never knew what it.
Speaker 4: Meant though, now you know. If you don't know, now
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: However, I love this, Yeah, I love this, like going
Speaker 3: out and traveling the world for me personally without my kids,
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: Know what my purpose would be.
Speaker 4: We've spoken about this because I just got another puppy,
Speaker 4: and you're like Johna, You're like me. We want purpose
Speaker 4: and give us the ability to help and take care
Speaker 4: of something and nurtures. Yes, I mean, let's be on,
Speaker 4: look what I do for a living, all right, help people?
Speaker 3: Yes, But I I am with you in that, Yeah,
Speaker 3: when people say they don't want kids, I'm like, they
Speaker 3: don't have them because it changes everything. But a little
Speaker 3: part of my heart breaks just because I know the
Speaker 3: feeling of when you have your own child. I'll be honest, like,
Speaker 3: I love kids, but like if someone asked me to
Speaker 3: babysit their kid, I would have zero fucking interest in.
Speaker 2: It's like looking at a pig. Sure of like a
Speaker 2: photo of you.
Speaker 4: If we're going to get like really open and vulnerable,
Speaker 4: vulnerable right now, you know. I've had to go through
Speaker 4: the process of what if.
Speaker 1: I don't what if you don't have kids, or what
Speaker 1: if you don't find a purder? What if you don't have.
Speaker 4: I mean, but let's be honest. I mean I'm out
Speaker 4: here dating you know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one of my questions.
Speaker 4: Okay, can we leave for an episode wrapped real quick?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: But I am you know. I I've many a night's
Speaker 4: laying in bed what if I don't true like truly
Speaker 4: And I've had to come to the point in my
Speaker 4: life and accepting that maybe I won't and and if
Speaker 4: that is my path, I have to It makes me emotional,
Speaker 4: But if that is my path, then I need to
Speaker 4: accept that is what it is, and that's okay as well. Uh,
Speaker 4: but it is really emotional to think that I might
Speaker 4: go through life without ever having kids. And you can
Speaker 4: say you will, you will, but we we don't know.
Speaker 2: I was just going to say, on top of that thing.
Speaker 4: To have that thought, and I've had many nights of
Speaker 4: just like crying an emotional turmoil.
Speaker 2: Would you ever adopt?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I would, Okay, I would, so yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5: I've thought about that route too, because you just saying
Speaker 5: that I'm young. I get that, but like I'm in
Speaker 5: the same bot of like what if I never do
Speaker 5: find somebody totally because I do want kids, And then
Speaker 5: that's the other thing. It's like, okay, well now I
Speaker 5: have to find it. So I get where you're coming from.
Speaker 5: But like that was my almost like adoption is there
Speaker 5: and like there are so many kids in need, and
Speaker 5: it's like that's something that I can really fall into
Speaker 5: as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah totally, which kind.
Speaker 5: Of helps me because I've gone through what you're going
Speaker 5: through making to find somebody. When I have a kid,
Speaker 5: I see what you have and it's like I do
Speaker 5: want kids. Yeah, So yeah, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 5: You got me in my feelings and let's get.
Speaker 4: Spirally on everyone's doing funny side thought, I can't sit
Speaker 4: how Easton is when my legs are too short.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I love the new space because it is just.
Speaker 4: It's such a bag.
Speaker 2: Over here or something.
Speaker 3: You damn.
Speaker 4: I just had to call it out because Eastern is
Speaker 4: like sitting all chill and I'm like, sitting here.
Speaker 2: Really, I really thought.
Speaker 3: I was like, this is very impressive.
Speaker 1: You could do it.
Speaker 4: No, you can't do that. I've stretched you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, A lot of like am I good?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: A lot of the workouts that involve like being limper,
Speaker 3: like girl, you you got to be straight tripping Boom
Speaker 3: had me to.
Speaker 2: It the one time. I thought, and you think I'm
Speaker 2: coming back.
Speaker 4: Just the workout. We're not talking threading.
Speaker 1: Here's how I feel off of what you just said.
Speaker 4: My dating life.
Speaker 1: We're going to get there.
Speaker 3: When I think about the future and what that may
Speaker 3: hold and I and it's always at night where I
Speaker 3: start the spiraling.
Speaker 4: Always always I don't meditation.
Speaker 3: About the brain and what chemical it releases, but it's
Speaker 3: a release of Now I'm going to take you to
Speaker 3: the darkest place you've ever been in your life.
Speaker 4: And I'm like now we start replaying our day and
Speaker 4: at the end of it, there's nothing else to do
Speaker 4: except lay there and you're trying You're trying to rest
Speaker 4: and your brain is kind of playing catch up. Yes,
Speaker 4: it's it's crazy. I have to play meditation to go
Speaker 4: to sleep a lot of times.
Speaker 3: Well, Lisa and I have had these conversations a lot recently,
Speaker 3: where you know, obviously there are times where you need
Speaker 3: to seek help from a doctor and get on medication,
Speaker 3: of course, So I'm not saying take control of your
Speaker 3: mind and that's the end.
Speaker 4: All be all.
Speaker 3: There are situations where you need someone with a medical background.
Speaker 3: For me, though, when I start going to those places,
Speaker 3: if my mind is powerful enough to take me to
Speaker 3: that place, it is certainly powerful enough to say we're
Speaker 3: ending it here, and now I'm going to take you
Speaker 3: to a really great place.
Speaker 1: You can take me low, you can certainly take me high.
Speaker 1: So I do.
Speaker 3: And I was talking to a friend yesterday where we
Speaker 3: were talking about my eye, and you know, I was saying,
Speaker 3: this is how I've kind of laid it out to
Speaker 3: have it make sense, because there was something coming up
Speaker 3: that I was very much looking forward to. And you know,
Speaker 3: she said, sometimes not everything does happen for a reason.
Speaker 3: Sometimes just shit happens. And immediately I was like, no,
Speaker 3: I don't like that at all. I have to I
Speaker 3: don't like that at all. There had to be a
Speaker 3: reason behind everything, because that is the way that I
Speaker 3: keep peace of mind and keep my head above water.
Speaker 3: I could be so up in the night, we could
Speaker 3: be dead and gone in the ground. There's nothing after this. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if I go that route, I know.
Speaker 4: We're in a dark place. Yeah.
Speaker 3: What I do know is when I think about the
Speaker 3: universe and it's structuring my life for me, and my
Speaker 3: life and path was written in the stars before I
Speaker 3: even arrived here. I know that that thought makes me peaceful.
Speaker 3: I know that that thought gives me chills, and I
Speaker 3: know that there is something beyond just this shell of
Speaker 3: who I am.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: For you, I picture you with children, and I picture
Speaker 3: you having a partner.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But I understand going into that dark, dark place of
Speaker 3: the what if.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I think just having your eggs frozen, knowing that
Speaker 3: you have you know, you don't expect for your life
Speaker 3: or your house to burn down, but just in case
Speaker 3: you have, you know that houses have burned down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know totally.
Speaker 3: We've seen it on the news. It could very well
Speaker 3: be your house one day.
Speaker 1: So what do you do? You get insurance?
Speaker 3: Unless you live in LA, it's very fucking different.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it is.
Speaker 3: You got your insurance policy.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: You're very heavy in the dating scene.
Speaker 1: You're on apps, right, Yes, do you have a favorite app?
Speaker 4: Well, that's a good question. I wouldn't say I have
Speaker 4: a favorite one.
Speaker 2: Is there any apps that you've had more success in?
Speaker 4: Defined success more.
Speaker 5: Like I mean multiple days or even success in the
Speaker 5: men are more interesting or more down your app?
Speaker 4: I would say all of them. I have met someone
Speaker 4: that I've dated for a little bit, you know, that's
Speaker 4: my best way to answer it. I would say certain
Speaker 4: apps cater for instance, you know, cater more to the
Speaker 4: entertainment industry.
Speaker 2: Versus isn't that rayah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, yeah, so that definitely is more in the
Speaker 4: entertainment mint field.
Speaker 2: Which you feel you need.
Speaker 4: You know, that's that's such a great question. It's something
Speaker 4: that I've actually been debating lately. You know, everyone's always
Speaker 4: like write a list, right if you're if you're looking
Speaker 4: to date, which you know I'm trying to get her, Yes,
Speaker 4: keep getting about I am where we are doing the thing.
Speaker 2: She deserves to have some happiness.
Speaker 3: And I figured out there's always there is always something
Speaker 3: just wear the patch.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of guys.
Speaker 3: It could be pirate, there's a lot of weird fetish.
Speaker 4: It.
Speaker 3: I never more enjoying than when I was pregnant. Actually,
Speaker 3: I was like, where are you guys when I'm not pregnant.
Speaker 3: I would have been pregnant for.
Speaker 1: A really long time.
Speaker 2: There's dudes who like pregnant women.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but that's also kind of want your sister
Speaker 4: to date someone who's like has a pregnancy fetish, No, any.
Speaker 2: Sort of I put the child in you.
Speaker 5: That's I can have that fetish if I am looking
Speaker 5: at it like a random girl and like even seeing
Speaker 5: her like husband and I'm like, she's so fun.
Speaker 1: There are weird people, all know.
Speaker 4: Although I will say yours was different because it wasn't
Speaker 4: like it was from the next like oh.
Speaker 1: This gout your That is true.
Speaker 2: They were no man in there. I'm sending my shot.
Speaker 1: Could I tell you?
Speaker 3: Podcast with Brittany and we were talking about her dating
Speaker 3: life and sexy time life, and I was like, I
Speaker 3: haven't been touched an intimate with a man in over
Speaker 3: two years, I know, and I go, I know this,
Speaker 3: and then you know I got pregnant. Yeah, And if
Speaker 3: you were just some random person, you'd be like, how
Speaker 3: does that You're saying you haven't anybody, but you got pregnant,
Speaker 3: so you're a liar. Back to the app. Okay, what
Speaker 3: about hinge? Hinge?
Speaker 4: Okay, so Hinge is interesting. There's I was never on
Speaker 4: Hinge until about a year ago and I was at
Speaker 4: my girlfriend's house. We were drinking wine, hanging out, and
Speaker 4: she was scrolling on Hinge and I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: I was like, these are like real dudes, not just
Speaker 4: like LA. Right when you think of LA, what do
Speaker 4: you think of like LA dudes?
Speaker 1: What do you think of I think of the boys?
Speaker 3: Good, are very well groomed, uh huh, probably jobless, uh huh.
Speaker 3: They're on Runnian walking Runnion every single day.
Speaker 4: We have a really really funny.
Speaker 3: And they want to go out and they're very healthy,
Speaker 3: very healthy, Jenna.
Speaker 1: But do I want to do a bump in the
Speaker 1: bathroom alway?
Speaker 3: Is that what they're doing makes zero fucking Sense's skinny?
Speaker 4: Trying to say skinny guys?
Speaker 3: Come on, that's no.
Speaker 4: But I yeah, So when she was scrolling hinge. I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, these guys have jobs, Like, I was like,
Speaker 4: they have real jobs. They were like and lawyers, well, doctors, right, but.
Speaker 2: LA is not that high right now.
Speaker 4: Right is surrounded by the entertainment industry, right, And I'm
Speaker 4: a gonna lie. I went into a restaurant the other
Speaker 4: day in the middle of the day and I walked
Speaker 4: in and it was packed, and I looked around. I'm like,
Speaker 4: does anybody here work? And I'm like, literally, looetting ready
Speaker 4: and I'm like, but I'm here.
Speaker 3: But I think that all the time all do run
Speaker 3: into one's in a blue moon. I'm like, these fucking
Speaker 3: lasers have no job. And then I'm like, but I'm here.
Speaker 4: That's the exact time that I had. I was like, wait,
Speaker 4: I just ordered lunch.
Speaker 1: I'm here, yeah.
Speaker 4: And I was also here on Monday.
Speaker 3: No. I literally said to Easton, Yeah, because we've been
Speaker 3: going through a mental health awakening, and I'm like, we're
Speaker 3: all just a bunch of mirrors walking around. Yeah, we're
Speaker 3: all throwing shit at each other, but your shit smells
Speaker 3: just like my shit, and vice versa, and no one's
Speaker 3: doing better than the other person, and it's just a crazy,
Speaker 3: crazy fucking world.
Speaker 5: The world is wild, and the more I look into
Speaker 5: the world, and like even driving and just looking around,
Speaker 5: I'm like, what is going on?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what what's it for? And what we're gonna say?
Speaker 4: Well, just to go back into the dating world, you know,
Speaker 4: it's it's such a crazy time in the sense of
Speaker 4: there's so many opportunities, right, and it's almost dangerous because
Speaker 4: we're so quick to cut someone out, which, by the way,
Speaker 4: like right, I think a really important question is and
Speaker 4: I actually have this question for both of you guys too.
Speaker 4: Does dating get harder as we get older or do
Speaker 4: we just become more aware of who we are and
Speaker 4: what we want.
Speaker 1: I adore this.
Speaker 3: Question so much.
Speaker 2: It made because I'm still nervous.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh god, Personally, yeah, I think it's a
Speaker 3: combination of both things.
Speaker 1: And I really hate that answer because I'm black at
Speaker 1: black or white. I don't like the gray Switzerland answer.
Speaker 3: But I feel like it's really hard to date because
Speaker 3: there's so much access. You could literally meet you know,
Speaker 3: Svetlana in Russia, who's a fucking banger. You live in
Speaker 3: Los Angeles, and all of a sudden you know someone
Speaker 3: who you would never fucking know otherwise, Yes, because social media.
Speaker 4: Well I was gonna say even just Instagram's like a
Speaker 4: dating app now slide in someone's DMS.
Speaker 3: But on the flip side, as you get older and
Speaker 3: you evolve, Yeah, I'm going to speak for my own
Speaker 3: personal experience. I no longer drink, so I don't have
Speaker 3: any sort of liquid courage to make me feel you know,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm not uninhibited. I don't have anything to kind
Speaker 3: of give me a little bit of like it's all good.
Speaker 3: I'm hyper focused. I have an out of body experience.
Speaker 3: Every time I go out. It's like I'm watching myself
Speaker 3: have conversations with people and that it's not a good feeling,
Speaker 3: and maybe I'll have to go out and to make
Speaker 3: that go away. But then I also think about what
Speaker 3: I've built. Yeah, and I've let people in in a
Speaker 3: very intimate way emotionally, physically who have turned out to
Speaker 3: be scary. So that makes me nervous. Yeah, And then
Speaker 3: you add the layer of I have children, what kind
Speaker 3: of person are you? You stack all of those things
Speaker 3: on top of each other, and it becomes debilitating to
Speaker 3: go out and try to meet somebody.
Speaker 4: I think you're setting that standard for yourself.
Speaker 5: I was just gonna say, but I feel like I
Speaker 5: do this, like I feel like everybody does that.
Speaker 4: Well, that can go both ways though, Like I'm thirty
Speaker 4: eight and I don't have kids, right, so I have
Speaker 4: the same thought as like we're at a point in
Speaker 4: our lives where a lot of women our age do
Speaker 4: have kids.
Speaker 3: Well, then I guess the question is more directed at
Speaker 3: you then, because you're what's wrong without you?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, no, I'm saying, how do you feel that the dating world?
Speaker 3: You know? Like, what is You're out here and you've
Speaker 3: you've built something.
Speaker 1: Great, you know, like, what do you feel is the issue?
Speaker 1: Is it harder or do you just have higher standards?
Speaker 4: I hate to say, you know, I'm in that gray
Speaker 4: area as well, but I it is. It has to
Speaker 4: be both.
Speaker 5: I think it's higher standards, but it's wanting what you
Speaker 5: want and also the people that you're talking to have
Speaker 5: that as well, and they know what they want.
Speaker 4: No, sorry, go on, go on, I want to totally
Speaker 4: keep going.
Speaker 1: I want to hear you're so excited.
Speaker 2: No, tell me, tell me.
Speaker 4: I you think about when we're twenty two, you see
Speaker 4: someone they're hot, you go out, you get drunk, one
Speaker 4: night and you hook up. Whatever you do. You wake
Speaker 4: up the next morning, you're like, should we go grab breakfast? Right?
Speaker 4: I I want you to leave well now right?
Speaker 1: Always?
Speaker 5: I like going to their house so I can leave
Speaker 5: at four thirty in the morning.
Speaker 4: Okay, I.
Speaker 2: Control when when I keep that? Yeah, because there's nothing
Speaker 2: worse than a lingerer.
Speaker 4: Oh fuck, do we want to talk about your trauma
Speaker 4: first or yours?
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I think we're No.
Speaker 4: I think that's both both valid.
Speaker 2: But I mean to you, when you're doing that, I
Speaker 2: didn't know what I wanted.
Speaker 4: You're not. It's thinking about the dynamics. You're not thinking
Speaker 4: about kids having kids in that moment, right, You're not
Speaker 4: thinking about is this person going to have the same
Speaker 4: morning routine that I do?
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, level.
Speaker 2: Right the ship.
Speaker 4: You never thought about that before, and now I do.
Speaker 4: It's one of the main things I think about.
Speaker 1: Something If you get in.
Speaker 3: Bed with me at seven o'clock, right and cover your
Speaker 3: face and castor oil while eating good of cheese and
Speaker 3: good things while watching.
Speaker 2: But this is where you're gonna.
Speaker 1: Have to give him, right, So can I tell you
Speaker 1: the out of it?
Speaker 4: Can I tell you how hard it is to date though,
Speaker 4: being someone who likes to go to bed early on
Speaker 4: the weekdays, Like, I'm not the person that going to
Speaker 4: go out in the middle of the week and get
Speaker 4: wasted on a date.
Speaker 1: You have to be up to train people.
Speaker 3: You got your fitness brand, you personal train, which you're
Speaker 3: very funny about now, like it has to be.
Speaker 1: A good gig.
Speaker 3: It has for you to when you go out with somebody,
Speaker 3: I want to know, is that a deal breaker if
Speaker 3: they're not a physical person.
Speaker 4: It's funny because people would be like, oh, she has
Speaker 4: to date someone who has a six pack who's in
Speaker 4: the gym all the time. Ironically enough, I prefer someone
Speaker 4: who isn't as into fitness as I am.
Speaker 3: Okay, why because you.
Speaker 4: Know what I've noticed? Then they're tracking me.
Speaker 3: They're what they're they're tracking me, and I'm like, what
Speaker 3: she calls herself a personal trainer and she just hate
Speaker 3: that yeah.
Speaker 4: Or or or they're like, well, why aren't we in
Speaker 4: the gym for two hours today? And I'm like, look,
Speaker 4: I'm I'm a trainer. I love what I do. But
Speaker 4: I have never been one of those trainer, one of
Speaker 4: those people who want to spend all day in the gym.
Speaker 4: All I do right, Like, I'm not the person who
Speaker 4: wants to go to the gym and then go for
Speaker 4: a four hour hike afterwords. The worst I don't write.
Speaker 4: And a lot of people and dudes who are into that.
Speaker 4: It's very intense and it's like almost like this weird
Speaker 4: competitive of like what, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I can see that.
Speaker 4: I think they have to appreciate fitness, Like I couldn't
Speaker 4: be with someone who didn't exercise at all.
Speaker 3: I don't think, right, No, but you wouldn't want to
Speaker 3: be with a gym head. No, just takes care of Yes,
Speaker 3: you also have no type, like I've noticed when you
Speaker 3: show me like you're attracted to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, except except that.
Speaker 4: Wait, sometimes I'm like, am I allowed to look into
Speaker 4: the camera and say accepting dating dating applications right now?
Speaker 1: Yes, of course you are.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be all women, but that's okay.
Speaker 4: No type. I'm just gonna.
Speaker 1: Do you train me?
Speaker 3: You train Kristen, Well, she's like four hundred years pregnant.
Speaker 4: Though I know I am, I gonna have.
Speaker 2: That kid out, She's gonna do a squat.
Speaker 3: I actually am very impressed that she's worked out this long.
Speaker 3: I know you were supposed to train her this morning
Speaker 3: and she was like, I'm.
Speaker 1: Good, imps, I can't.
Speaker 3: Imagine body hurts.
Speaker 1: That's weird.
Speaker 3: What do you mean when you go out with your
Speaker 3: friends who you train like me, for example.
Speaker 1: When you see what we consume.
Speaker 3: Like that day that we had worked out and then
Speaker 3: I downed like an egg McMuffin from mynlds after, were
Speaker 3: you like, oh my god, or do not even think
Speaker 3: about it?
Speaker 4: Oh, that's such a good like, that's such a good point.
Speaker 4: So for me, I never expect people to do what
Speaker 4: I do. Okay, I don't because you know how I am.
Speaker 4: I believe in a sustainable lifestyle and and and truthfully, like,
Speaker 4: you can eat the egg McMuffin, now, do I prefer
Speaker 4: that it was healthier food not for McDonald's. Yes, I do, right, yeah,
Speaker 4: But I'm not here to like deprive you of everything. Now.
Speaker 4: If you were sitting here complaining about your weight, right, yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't feel good in my skin, I feel obese,
Speaker 4: whatever it is, and you were doing that, then I'd
Speaker 4: be like, let's have a conversation, because the truth is
Speaker 4: you're making those choices, right, but you don't do that
Speaker 4: and we talked about this so much. You're like, I
Speaker 4: want to get a fair ass and I want to
Speaker 4: feel good, right, And that's and that's what we do,
Speaker 4: isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: My favorite body was when I had just lost my
Speaker 3: dad and I stopped drinking for like I remember at
Speaker 3: the time, but I was smoking weed a lot, so
Speaker 3: I was always eating and I were this Mumma was
Speaker 3: thick and I was like, I feel that body. And
Speaker 3: then postpartum with Ocean, postpartum with Sosa was a fucking
Speaker 3: buzzkill I And people are gonna hate me for saying this,
Speaker 3: but we all really we don't have right.
Speaker 4: We shed the weight so quick.
Speaker 3: But it fell off of me to where I got
Speaker 3: skeleton again, and I'm like, what the fuck is this?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: With Ocean, I had hips, I had I was feeling myself.
Speaker 3: I was like, this is the body I've been dreaming of.
Speaker 3: I'm having twelve kids because I just want to live
Speaker 3: in this body forever.
Speaker 4: But I had thirteen children for the body.
Speaker 3: But everyone battles like I have so many questions for
Speaker 3: you that will answer in the bonus of how people
Speaker 3: can bounce back after having a baby. And we talk
Speaker 3: about this all all the time that you almost have
Speaker 3: to focus on the way your mental feels because you
Speaker 3: are always going to want something that you do not have. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I don't know why God made us that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it is what it is.
Speaker 3: How do you because I I've seen you with your
Speaker 3: clients and it's not just about the eating, and it's
Speaker 3: not just about the working out, like you have full
Speaker 3: conversations about getting the mental right as well, because you're
Speaker 3: trained to be a life coach.
Speaker 4: Yeah. By Jay Shetty.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Have you ever heard of him?
Speaker 3: Has got to beautiful eyes?
Speaker 4: He does, so does his wife. You're like, how did
Speaker 4: this happen?
Speaker 3: No, He's an extremely beautiful man, he is.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: I think it really comes back to how I became
Speaker 4: a trainer. Yeah, and you know that we've spoken about
Speaker 4: this before. I became a trainer because of my anxiety
Speaker 4: and situational depression. I've always struggled with anxiety. My parents
Speaker 4: literally had to put a punching bag in our basement
Speaker 4: when I was a kid.
Speaker 3: You are so Jersey right now.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 4: Good for your parents, you know, And it's always been
Speaker 4: something that I've struggled with and dealt with and when
Speaker 4: my fiance and I broke up, when I stepped away
Speaker 4: from the Valley right, and and also I mean the
Speaker 4: valley when stepp away from vander Pump Rules, and when
Speaker 4: like the show that I was working on stop filming,
Speaker 4: I went into such a situational depression to the point
Speaker 4: where my parents were literally like, do we have to
Speaker 4: bring you home?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: And what changed my life was exercising again, like almost
Speaker 4: makes me emotional because it literally changed my life. And
Speaker 4: the fact that I can help people do that is
Speaker 4: the biggest gift in the world because I know how
Speaker 4: hard it was for me and what I went through.
Speaker 4: And you say it too, like it completely changes your
Speaker 4: mood and a lot of time it is the last
Speaker 4: thing I want to do. By the way, me too.
Speaker 4: I'm human, and I know you feel the same way.
Speaker 4: But when you finish, it's that moment right after that
Speaker 4: you just feel like a completely different person. And that
Speaker 4: is why for me, the mental aspect of health and
Speaker 4: wellness is so prominent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I also think it got you out of
Speaker 3: a really dark space. But yeah, cut to where you
Speaker 3: are now and all the people that you've helped. I
Speaker 3: also think that in your personal life. It's made you
Speaker 3: go out into the world with intent.
Speaker 5: Hm.
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, I appreciate you saying that when you.
Speaker 3: Can stack yourself and know that you're you're putting your
Speaker 3: all into you, then you can go out into the
Speaker 3: world and you can make those hard decisions like I'm
Speaker 3: going to freeze my eggs because i don't know what
Speaker 3: the future holds. I'm going to put myself out there
Speaker 3: on dating apps and I'm gonna I actually very much
Speaker 3: admire you.
Speaker 1: I know, we joke all the time, like Jo's.
Speaker 3: Got on our four hundreds date for the week, but
Speaker 3: I like socializing though that's the only bonus for it.
Speaker 1: But I adore that about you.
Speaker 3: And I truly believe that the fitness world that you
Speaker 3: have just put your all into because I believe that
Speaker 3: your mental is the highest of highs that comes from
Speaker 3: when you work out. But it's really allowed you to
Speaker 3: go out into the world and be intentional about what
Speaker 3: you're doing. Yeah, you know, whether it's whether it's your dating,
Speaker 3: whether you know you're facing a hard time, you're teed
Speaker 3: up because you've stacked yourself so perfectly.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: I I'm like speechless because that means a lot and
Speaker 4: it is true, but just that you see I mean, look,
Speaker 4: you're one of my best friends. Of course you see it,
Speaker 4: but sometimes you know, others see it better than we do.
Speaker 4: So just to hear it that way is really nice
Speaker 4: and really refreshing, and I appreciate it. And that is
Speaker 4: the truth. I mean, even you know it's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have how long ago did you start
Speaker 3: that online fitness?
Speaker 4: Oh my god? Like the actual like month to month
Speaker 4: online like real plans and work where like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the ones that you post and like you get
Speaker 3: onto the group, oh god, zooms into your workouts.
Speaker 4: I love it so much twenty twenty twenty two, Like
Speaker 4: during COVID twenty twenty one. Yeah, it's become very refined.
Speaker 4: Like when I, like when I first launched it, it
Speaker 4: was like, right, COVID hit and you know this I
Speaker 4: was working on like a ninety day bridal boot camp.
Speaker 3: Yeah I remember.
Speaker 4: Do you remember this?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I do remember.
Speaker 1: And I created this.
Speaker 4: Ninety day bridal boot camp for brides, which by the way,
Speaker 4: I do have. I just don't advertise it anymore. But
Speaker 4: that's what started all of it. And at the time,
Speaker 4: it was because the day to day training was so
Speaker 4: busy and auditioning that I couldn't manage all of it.
Speaker 4: So I was like, I'm going to create this online
Speaker 4: program covid hit. There's no acting going on right and
Speaker 4: no one's getting married. All venues are shut down. So
Speaker 4: I was like, I have this skeleton of a program, right,
Speaker 4: ninety day workout plan cater to at home. You helped
Speaker 4: me promote this, Yeah, And I literally I taught myself
Speaker 4: how to build out a pay funnel, how to build
Speaker 4: a landing page. And I was like, I'm going to
Speaker 4: use the skeleton of this program and teach like a
Speaker 4: sanity while stuck at home workout plan a two month special.
Speaker 4: And I literally utilized Facebook.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: I used Facebook. I created a private community and I
Speaker 4: launched it and like right off the bad it was
Speaker 4: look very fortunate. I got like two hundred members.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh my gosh. I was like, this
Speaker 4: is something I and you know what the beauty And
Speaker 4: I was like, I can reach more people than just
Speaker 4: my day to day clients. I can help more people
Speaker 4: and make people feel better as a whole versus just
Speaker 4: you and me day to day, right, And that is
Speaker 4: that is a fucking gift.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is how do people sign up or learn
Speaker 3: about learn more about this?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, so like basically through time. Now now I
Speaker 4: have an app. Now it's all refined. Oh nice, Yeah so,
Speaker 4: and now it's literally like I do personalized month to
Speaker 4: month meal plans and workout plans.
Speaker 3: I can people pick and choose, like if they're like, uh,
Speaker 3: the package where you you do the workout and meal
Speaker 3: plan little too steep for me right now.
Speaker 1: I just want to stick to one or the other.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent. And of course I always say, you know,
Speaker 4: depending on what your goals are, nutrition and you know,
Speaker 4: exercise come hand in hand. But one thousand percent. If
Speaker 4: someone's like I can only do this part or I
Speaker 4: already have this routine going and you can find the
Speaker 4: link on my Instagram Miss Jenna Willis link in bio.
Speaker 1: Ms Jenna Willis.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I first myself actually single forever. This
Speaker 4: might have missed When I eated my Instagram Mandle, I
Speaker 4: was like, I think I actually you.
Speaker 3: Maybe should have done m I at.
Speaker 1: I love it. You guys asked.
Speaker 3: A lot of questions, so we're going to deep dive
Speaker 3: into the bonus and answer those with Jenna.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 3: For listening to another episode. Thank you, missus Jenna Willis
Speaker 3: miss and we will catch you on Monday for the
Speaker 3: bonus and again Wednesday for a regular old episode.
Speaker 1: Hi guys,