1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous. I'm good. How are you well? 2 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: You just said hello gorgeous. 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: I thought thought directed at you. You. 4 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 3: Jenna willis my listeners? Who are my friends? 5 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: Yes? 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 3: I feel like every time I see you in the 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 3: morning at this hour, you're telling me to do something 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 3: that I truly don't want to do. But I leave 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 3: feeling like my ass is perkier than normal. 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 4: It is fact. 11 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: By the way, what is that. 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: Like when you know how you get to the gym 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 3: and you're like, okay, today's leg and butt day. Is 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 3: it just like the muscles that are getting swollen so 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: it looks perkier than blow. 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: Oh, you're opening like the muscles up? Is that what 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: it is? 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 4: We're not opening them up, You're bringing blood flow to them, right, 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 4: and blood flow. 20 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: Experience that makes There's so many times where I'll see 21 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,919 Speaker 3: people doing something before, like a workout shoot, and I'm like, girl, 22 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 3: you should have been doing that the whole time, Like 23 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: why are you just doing it now? Like she looks good, right, 24 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: but you do think like you're not gonna get a 25 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 3: six pack. 26 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:16,919 Speaker 2: Right now in twenty minutes. 27 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, but now it's making sense. 28 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 2: But when she starts doing her crunches, it appears. 29 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 4: Those like fab five minute workouts don't work well. 30 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 3: Actually, there's a lot of questions that will address in 31 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: the bonus. 32 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so crazy because. 33 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 3: No matter how many times I have you on. Yeah, 34 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: every time I post that I'm having you on and 35 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 3: doing a Q and A, my little inbox thing is flooded. 36 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: Yes with yes. 37 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 4: That makes me so happy because then it just means 38 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 4: people care about their health and wellness and we want 39 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 4: to make change. 40 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: They do. 41 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: But at the same time, most people are like me 42 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: and they're like, I want this, but I want to 43 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: change nothing right, So so how do we do that? 44 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: No, but there is a way to slow roll yourself. 45 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: And I'm excited to talk to you about this, which 46 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: we're really going to deep dive into obviously on this episode, 47 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 3: but the bonus will be really focused on that. So, 48 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 3: Jenna willis you have been my friend, as people know 49 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 3: for over ten years now. 50 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 4: I can't. 51 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: Is that wild? I can't. 52 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 4: We don't have to talk about that one of the 53 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 4: first I mean, when we were twelve. It's crazy. 54 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: Well, we're both grown. 55 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 5: Af I remember you flew to Utah, yeah, and I 56 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 5: was still living there and picked you up. 57 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: We went out and got like. We went to like 58 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 2: a hotel bar. 59 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 4: We went to the mall, the mall, Jena. 60 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: That was the first time I was I'm not lying either. 61 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: That was nervous. I was like, I'm just about to 62 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: hang out with Lauren's friend. And then we started hanging 63 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: out and I was like, no, it's my friend. It 64 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: was so fun. 65 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 3: Me and my friends, Jenna, Mom and myself drove to 66 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 3: Park City for lunch shop and Mom and I ended 67 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 3: up getting lit was that eleven dropsy. 68 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: Baby. It was a wild Jenna had to drive us home. 69 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 4: I like, ladies, it's okay back there, quiet down, please, 70 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 4: And then they're crying and then they're laughing. My dad 71 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 4: had just died. 72 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: Oh that was so dark. 73 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: It was We went to like McK finnigan's or whatever. 74 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 4: Best time. 75 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: No, it was great. 76 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 4: That's the best time. And I love Utah. 77 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: You. 78 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 4: I had such a great time with you guys. 79 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 80 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: No, Utah is a beautiful place. So my routine with 81 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: Jenna because we're homies. Yeah, but what I love about 82 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: our friendship. And I said this because you make an 83 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: appearance on the Valley this season, and I don't really 84 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: know which way right now that goes. But I've been 85 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: asked about it, and I'm not going to say too much, 86 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 3: but I have said because I participated in the after 87 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: show and your name appears, and I said, you know, 88 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 3: my friendship with Jenna is one of the most healthy 89 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: and productive friendships that I have. It's a friendship where 90 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: you know, we are healthy together. H a friendship where 91 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 3: we can really talk about everything and shoot it straight. 92 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 3: It's it's a game of uh, as my mom would say, tennis, 93 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: where the conversation goes back and. 94 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 4: Forth because we know some that don't we know somewhere. 95 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: It's like, okay, so this dinner is going to be 96 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 3: someone talking at me the whole time. 97 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: You leave feeling a little exhausted. 98 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: You know everything about them, they know nothing about you. 99 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,679 Speaker 5: You know their cat's name, you know their dead great 100 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 5: grandfather and what he did. 101 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: You're like, okay, what about me? And my mother and I. 102 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 3: Had a good day, so like I have pre cancer 103 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 3: in my It's like, well, now that we're paying the boat, yeah, 104 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 3: everything's fine. You next time. 105 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: Really, you don't give a shit, but. 106 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: I'm so happy to know what your great great grandfather. 107 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 5: And why you are here because of him. 108 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 3: Anyway, I'm still laughing or crying both the combination. 109 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: Of the two. It hurts because it's true, and you 110 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: want to cry because it won't. 111 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: Change exactly exactly. 112 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: That is all about acceptance, accurate way it accepting. 113 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 4: It is acceptance. 114 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: Going through life, is going through the five stages of good. 115 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: Don't you think, what is it? Acceptance? No, it's like grief, acceptance, anger. 116 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: Anger, and then finally acceptance. 117 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 4: And here we are, and here excepting where we're at. 118 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 3: Jenna has worked me out and been my homie for 119 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 3: a very long time. You've worked me out through both 120 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 3: of my pregnancies. You've worked me out after the pregnancies. 121 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 3: And how are routine and day starts? 122 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 5: You? 123 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: Guys? I love it? I love it too, So I 124 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: told her I'm back at it. 125 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 3: I'm how what was I two three months postpartum something 126 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: like that? 127 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, you were cleared? 128 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: I was cleared whatever? Six weeks after? What is that? 129 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 4: The month and a half The most of them you 130 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 4: can really start is about six weeks, right, That's like 131 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 4: the earliest you could start, and you want to start 132 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 4: very very very minimal, right, And we were after that? 133 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 4: I think I think we were eight to ten. Yeah, 134 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 4: because you know, I'm very careful about everything, which I 135 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 4: respect and I love. 136 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: Well. 137 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: You don't put pressure on people, which is also what 138 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 3: I like. 139 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 4: Ah, that's not my style, you know. I think everyone 140 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 4: needs to come to acceptance with when they're ready. Yeah, 141 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 4: and only you can make that decision, right because and 142 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 4: I'm there to facilitate it and help you make change 143 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 4: and push you as far as you can go. But 144 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 4: it's not my job right to force you to exercise, like, 145 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 4: that's a decision that you need to make when you're 146 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 4: ready to prioritize your health and wellness. Going back to acceptance. 147 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, exactly. You know our morning routine, I Jenna comes. 148 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: If we want to plan our workout, Let's say we 149 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: want to start at nine, She'll come around eight, eight 150 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: thirty because we like to get our coffee, a. 151 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: Little chit chat, a little chit chat. Still the tea. 152 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, you gotta go over the 153 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 4: daily tea. 154 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: It's so happy. 155 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: It is a lot happens in our lives in forty 156 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 3: eight hours. 157 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: It does. 158 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: And you're one of the safe spaces for me where 159 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: I can talk freely about anything and everything, and I 160 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: know that it's going into a vault. I know that saying, 161 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: and like, I love talking to my mom, but sometimes 162 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, like I've had enough of. 163 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 4: It's a little different. It's a little different opinion. It 164 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 4: is no and that's okay. 165 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 5: You get different answers talent then you kind of want 166 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 5: from a friend. Yeah, you get the motherly answer or 167 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 5: the parent answer, and you're like, I get that. 168 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: I know that an answer. I don't want it. That's 169 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: why I'm not talking to you. 170 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: Well, mom's answers immediately fuck them. They don't deserve to 171 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: be your friend. 172 00:07:58,920 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: That's not mine. 173 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: Little bit of a productive like you know, you're my mom, 174 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 3: you're my mom. 175 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 4: That is normally where I'm like, okay, why don't we 176 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: take a beat, think this through, m resonate, ruminate a 177 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 4: little bit. 178 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: What did you do to participate in that behavior? 179 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 4: I will always challenge you on that. 180 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: But that's why I think I said in the after show, 181 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: which you guys will see what I said, and I 182 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 3: stand by you being one of the healthiest friendships. 183 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: I have and have ever had. 184 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 3: It means a lot and I thoroughly enjoy the process 185 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: that goes into not only the cherry on top which 186 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 3: I think is the body for me. Like a lot 187 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: of people, they start working out because they want a 188 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 3: perky butt, they want a tone's stomach, whatever, whatever the 189 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 3: case may be. 190 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: I know that that will come. But the way that. 191 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 3: I leave a workout it sets the tone for the 192 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 3: entire day mentally. Yeah, so thank you for that. 193 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: I want to talk about are working out and all 194 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: those things. 195 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 3: But you also which we didn't get to cover the 196 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 3: last time. You are thirty eight, thirty eight, you look great. 197 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 4: Thank you. 198 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 2: You were my. 199 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 3: Age and you thank you. 200 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 4: Of course she does, she works out, she's care of herself. 201 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: I thought I do. 202 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I thought you're in your late twenties. 203 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I'm trying to be. 204 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 4: I feel like I just like start shouting it out, like, yeah, 205 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 4: I'm I'm thirty eight. 206 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 2: I thought you two were the same age. 207 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 3: I think I'll be thirty five this year. 208 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: But I think that. 209 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 3: The j Lo's and the Kim Kardashians and the Gwen 210 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: Stefani's have really shifted the game. 211 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: And people can say, well, they. 212 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: Have access to like the best doctors, and they have 213 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 3: access to injectables and all the things. 214 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: Great, don't care regardless. 215 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 3: They look amazing and no matter what their faces look 216 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 3: like due to whatever work they've had. I'm sorry the 217 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 3: way they get up on stage and poplock and drop 218 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 3: it to the fucking ground. Yeah they are putting in 219 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 3: Oh my god, because I feel like she hasn't had 220 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 3: a whole bunch of work. 221 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: If we're going to talk. 222 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 5: About not having work, I feel like she's naturally beautiful and. 223 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 4: I haven't done work. 224 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. Like, it's just a different day and age, and 225 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: I think people have access to googling and saying like, oh, 226 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: this does not do to my body what I thought 227 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: it would do, and there's just information at the tip 228 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 3: of our fingers. But you went through a fertility journey 229 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 3: what a year and a half ago? 230 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 4: Yep? 231 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: What was what was that like? 232 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: Because you and I talk about this all the time, 233 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 3: us getting older, wanting to create a family. 234 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: The dating world is. 235 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: Grim like it hotter in here? I know? 236 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: Actually did fill my pips get a little? 237 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: Are we going here? 238 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: What was the point for you? 239 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 4: I mean there were a few levels of it, you know. 240 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 4: The point was to be able to take pressure off 241 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 4: of the dating life, okay, and and give me those 242 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: few extra years to give me the opportunity. How you did. 243 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 4: If I get to a point in my life where 244 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 4: you know, I want to bring a child into the 245 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 4: world on my own, I can. 246 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 3: So you would be open to that. Yeah, you know, 247 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 3: I have people. 248 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 4: You're like, good, we have a year end and so 249 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 4: we're doing that. 250 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: I have a third I would like a friend to 251 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 3: participate with me. 252 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: So I'm just kidding. 253 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: You're on her schedule. Now, You're ready to a. 254 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 3: Lot of people that I've had on the podcast who 255 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 3: go through a fertility journey and they freeze their eggs 256 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: and they're ensuring that when they find a partner, when 257 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 3: that time comes, they have eggs that are one hundred 258 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: should they not be creating anymore? 259 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: Right? 260 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: But the biggest, the biggest factor in that is if 261 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: I don't find a partner, then I don't need to 262 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: be a mom. So you're saying that you would go 263 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 3: the route of choosing to be a single mom. 264 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 4: I lean way more towards being a single mom than 265 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 4: not being a mom at all now, of course, and 266 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: you say this the most out of anyone, which, by 267 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 4: the way, is one of the things I love the 268 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 4: most about you. Whenever anything happens, he said, I'm being guided. 269 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 4: You have to trust in God in the universe. Yeah, right, 270 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 4: And everything happens for a reason, and you know I 271 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 4: get I mean you know this by now. I can 272 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 4: get very emotionally worked up, so can you. That's probably 273 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 4: why we're so close, because I'm like, I'm going to 274 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 4: fuck somebody up and then we're like, oh, I'm good, 275 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 4: I let it out right yea. But what you always 276 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 4: come back to is everything happens for a reason. And 277 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 4: I think it's hard to predict what the future holds, 278 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 4: you know, but in this moment right now, I absolute 279 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 4: would go that path over never having a child. 280 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: I love that. 281 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 4: The factors that play into it, of course. 282 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 5: So you see the relationships and how coparenting looks, it's like, 283 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 5: why even risk that, you know? 284 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,119 Speaker 4: Well, I think, yeah, you know, I think it goes definitely, 285 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 4: But there's always factors that make it scary, whether it 286 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 4: is doing it alone, whether it is having a partner 287 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 4: that can become anyone, right and anything at any point. 288 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 3: What what are the factors doing it alone? What are 289 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 3: the things that way heaviest on your mind with that time? 290 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 4: Energy, sleep, work, financial, I mean there's a lot, yeah, 291 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 4: there's a lot of factors that play into And we 292 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 4: live in Los Angeles, which is what now is it? 293 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 4: Is it the most expensive city in the United States 294 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 4: or is it your. 295 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 3: I think it's in the top five. I know New 296 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: York and San Francisco. 297 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 4: I mean it's and think about it, right, Having help 298 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 4: is real. Doing it all is not easy, that's for sure. 299 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: Well, I was talking to a friend today who has 300 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 3: a conventional thing happening, very traditional. 301 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: Uh. 302 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 3: And you know, any sort of talk about finances takes me. 303 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: To a place of PTSD, right, because. 304 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: It reminds me of when the two thousand and eight 305 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: recession happened and my dad lost everything, And it was 306 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 3: the first time that I saw my parents' fight where 307 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 3: there was no remedy for the situation unless a pile 308 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: of money dropped into the household. It was a conversation 309 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 3: that still to this day when someone says we had 310 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: an argument about finances, I'm like, oh, my gosh, I 311 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 3: have a knot in my throat. 312 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And they were talking about how you know, he works, she's. 313 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: A stay at home mom. Some debt had been collected 314 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 3: on a credit card, because that's what happens. It's expensive 315 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: to live, right, And like she said, you know, if 316 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: I go and get a job, I'm probably going to 317 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 3: be making as much as I would have to pay 318 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 3: someone to come in to. 319 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: Watch the kid. 320 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: You know. 321 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 3: So there's such true it's wild. However, when I think. 322 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: About that, I go to a place of. 323 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: When there's a dynamic between a husband and a wife, 324 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: or just a partnership man and man, woman and woman, 325 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 3: when there's intimacy that has now entered the chat, it 326 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: just adds another layer of stress. There are stressors in 327 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: my household. But because there's not the intimate factor, because 328 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: it's me and my mom or me and. 329 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 4: Easting, I think it's easier to set boundaries. 330 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 3: Yes, it's easier to set boundaries because the moment that 331 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: you're not getting along with your partner, what do you 332 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 3: stop doing? You stop being intimate with them. Yeah, there's 333 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 3: another layer of stress that goes into that. So when 334 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 3: I hear that someone wants to be a parent on 335 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 3: their own, you are going to have the same amount 336 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: of stress that a couple has. 337 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: But actually you get to eliminate one of the stressors, 338 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: which is dealing with a partner. 339 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 5: That's true, but that with that stress comes many of 340 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 5: stresses you know, but with the partner. Eliminating the partner, 341 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 5: you're eliminating financials, You're eliminating so many things underneath just that, 342 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 5: you know, because the partner brings so many other things. 343 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 5: I agree, So like, eliminating the partner eliminates so. 344 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: Much more than just that. 345 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 4: Have you guys heard of dinks? This term called dinks? 346 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 3: No? 347 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: What is that? 348 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 4: Dual income no kids. It's like a new thing. 349 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah all the time. 350 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 4: But you know, yeah income no kids and they just 351 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 4: buy the most ridiculous things or they're like all the 352 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 4: time and they're like, and how do we afford this? 353 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: I never knew what it. 354 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 4: Meant though, now you know. If you don't know, now 355 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 4: you know. 356 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 3: However, I love this, Yeah, I love this, like going 357 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 3: out and traveling the world for me personally without my kids, 358 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 3: I don't. 359 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: Know what my purpose would be. 360 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 4: We've spoken about this because I just got another puppy, 361 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 4: and you're like Johna, You're like me. We want purpose 362 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 4: and give us the ability to help and take care 363 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 4: of something and nurtures. Yes, I mean, let's be on, 364 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 4: look what I do for a living, all right, help people? 365 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 3: Yes, But I I am with you in that, Yeah, 366 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 3: when people say they don't want kids, I'm like, they 367 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 3: don't have them because it changes everything. But a little 368 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 3: part of my heart breaks just because I know the 369 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 3: feeling of when you have your own child. I'll be honest, like, 370 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: I love kids, but like if someone asked me to 371 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: babysit their kid, I would have zero fucking interest in. 372 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: It's like looking at a pig. Sure of like a 373 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 2: photo of you. 374 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 4: If we're going to get like really open and vulnerable, 375 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 4: vulnerable right now, you know. I've had to go through 376 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 4: the process of what if. 377 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: I don't what if you don't have kids, or what 378 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: if you don't find a purder? What if you don't have. 379 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 4: I mean, but let's be honest. I mean I'm out 380 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 4: here dating you know that. 381 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one of my questions. 382 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 4: Okay, can we leave for an episode wrapped real quick? 383 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 3: No? 384 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 4: But I am you know. I I've many a night's 385 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 4: laying in bed what if I don't true like truly 386 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 4: And I've had to come to the point in my 387 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 4: life and accepting that maybe I won't and and if 388 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 4: that is my path, I have to It makes me emotional, 389 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 4: But if that is my path, then I need to 390 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 4: accept that is what it is, and that's okay as well. Uh, 391 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 4: but it is really emotional to think that I might 392 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 4: go through life without ever having kids. And you can 393 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 4: say you will, you will, but we we don't know. 394 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 2: I was just going to say, on top of that thing. 395 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 4: To have that thought, and I've had many nights of 396 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 4: just like crying an emotional turmoil. 397 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: Would you ever adopt? 398 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? I would, Okay, I would, so yeah, I mean. 399 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 5: I've thought about that route too, because you just saying 400 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 5: that I'm young. I get that, but like I'm in 401 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 5: the same bot of like what if I never do 402 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 5: find somebody totally because I do want kids, And then 403 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 5: that's the other thing. It's like, okay, well now I 404 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 5: have to find it. So I get where you're coming from. 405 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 5: But like that was my almost like adoption is there 406 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 5: and like there are so many kids in need, and 407 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 5: it's like that's something that I can really fall into 408 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 5: as well. 409 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: Yeah totally, which kind. 410 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 5: Of helps me because I've gone through what you're going 411 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 5: through making to find somebody. When I have a kid, 412 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 5: I see what you have and it's like I do 413 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 5: want kids. Yeah, So yeah, I get what you're saying. 414 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 5: You got me in my feelings and let's get. 415 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 4: Spirally on everyone's doing funny side thought, I can't sit 416 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 4: how Easton is when my legs are too short. 417 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: I know. 418 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: I love the new space because it is just. 419 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 4: It's such a bag. 420 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: Over here or something. 421 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 3: You damn. 422 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 4: I just had to call it out because Eastern is 423 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 4: like sitting all chill and I'm like, sitting here. 424 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 2: Really, I really thought. 425 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 3: I was like, this is very impressive. 426 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: You could do it. 427 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 4: No, you can't do that. I've stretched you. 428 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, A lot of like am I good? 429 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 4: Now? 430 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 3: A lot of the workouts that involve like being limper, 431 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 3: like girl, you you got to be straight tripping Boom 432 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: had me to. 433 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 2: It the one time. I thought, and you think I'm 434 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: coming back. 435 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 4: Just the workout. We're not talking threading. 436 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: Here's how I feel off of what you just said. 437 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 4: My dating life. 438 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: We're going to get there. 439 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: When I think about the future and what that may 440 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 3: hold and I and it's always at night where I 441 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 3: start the spiraling. 442 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 4: Always always I don't meditation. 443 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 3: About the brain and what chemical it releases, but it's 444 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 3: a release of Now I'm going to take you to 445 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: the darkest place you've ever been in your life. 446 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 4: And I'm like now we start replaying our day and 447 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 4: at the end of it, there's nothing else to do 448 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 4: except lay there and you're trying You're trying to rest 449 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 4: and your brain is kind of playing catch up. Yes, 450 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 4: it's it's crazy. I have to play meditation to go 451 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 4: to sleep a lot of times. 452 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 3: Well, Lisa and I have had these conversations a lot recently, 453 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 3: where you know, obviously there are times where you need 454 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: to seek help from a doctor and get on medication, 455 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 3: of course, So I'm not saying take control of your 456 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: mind and that's the end. 457 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 4: All be all. 458 00:21:55,520 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: There are situations where you need someone with a medical background. 459 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: For me, though, when I start going to those places, 460 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 3: if my mind is powerful enough to take me to 461 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 3: that place, it is certainly powerful enough to say we're 462 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 3: ending it here, and now I'm going to take you 463 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 3: to a really great place. 464 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: You can take me low, you can certainly take me high. 465 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: So I do. 466 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 3: And I was talking to a friend yesterday where we 467 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: were talking about my eye, and you know, I was saying, 468 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 3: this is how I've kind of laid it out to 469 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 3: have it make sense, because there was something coming up 470 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 3: that I was very much looking forward to. And you know, 471 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 3: she said, sometimes not everything does happen for a reason. 472 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 3: Sometimes just shit happens. And immediately I was like, no, 473 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 3: I don't like that at all. I have to I 474 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: don't like that at all. There had to be a 475 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: reason behind everything, because that is the way that I 476 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 3: keep peace of mind and keep my head above water. 477 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 3: I could be so up in the night, we could 478 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 3: be dead and gone in the ground. There's nothing after this. Yeah, 479 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 3: if I go that route, I know. 480 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 4: We're in a dark place. Yeah. 481 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 3: What I do know is when I think about the 482 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: universe and it's structuring my life for me, and my 483 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 3: life and path was written in the stars before I 484 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 3: even arrived here. I know that that thought makes me peaceful. 485 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 3: I know that that thought gives me chills, and I 486 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 3: know that there is something beyond just this shell of 487 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: who I am. 488 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 489 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: For you, I picture you with children, and I picture 490 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 3: you having a partner. 491 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 492 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: But I understand going into that dark, dark place of 493 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 3: the what if. 494 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 495 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 3: So I think just having your eggs frozen, knowing that 496 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 3: you have you know, you don't expect for your life 497 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 3: or your house to burn down, but just in case 498 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 3: you have, you know that houses have burned down. 499 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know totally. 500 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 3: We've seen it on the news. It could very well 501 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 3: be your house one day. 502 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: So what do you do? You get insurance? 503 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 3: Unless you live in LA, it's very fucking different. 504 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it is. 505 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 3: You got your insurance policy. 506 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: Now. 507 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 3: You're very heavy in the dating scene. 508 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: You're on apps, right, Yes, do you have a favorite app? 509 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 4: Well, that's a good question. I wouldn't say I have 510 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 4: a favorite one. 511 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: Is there any apps that you've had more success in? 512 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 4: Defined success more. 513 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 5: Like I mean multiple days or even success in the 514 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 5: men are more interesting or more down your app? 515 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 4: I would say all of them. I have met someone 516 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 4: that I've dated for a little bit, you know, that's 517 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 4: my best way to answer it. I would say certain 518 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 4: apps cater for instance, you know, cater more to the 519 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 4: entertainment industry. 520 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 2: Versus isn't that rayah? 521 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, yeah, so that definitely is more in the 522 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 4: entertainment mint field. 523 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: Which you feel you need. 524 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 4: You know, that's that's such a great question. It's something 525 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 4: that I've actually been debating lately. You know, everyone's always 526 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 4: like write a list, right if you're if you're looking 527 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 4: to date, which you know I'm trying to get her, Yes, 528 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 4: keep getting about I am where we are doing the thing. 529 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: She deserves to have some happiness. 530 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 3: And I figured out there's always there is always something 531 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 3: just wear the patch. 532 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: There are a lot of guys. 533 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 3: It could be pirate, there's a lot of weird fetish. 534 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 4: It. 535 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: I never more enjoying than when I was pregnant. Actually, 536 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 3: I was like, where are you guys when I'm not pregnant. 537 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: I would have been pregnant for. 538 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: A really long time. 539 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 2: There's dudes who like pregnant women. 540 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but that's also kind of want your sister 541 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 4: to date someone who's like has a pregnancy fetish, No, any. 542 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 2: Sort of I put the child in you. 543 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 5: That's I can have that fetish if I am looking 544 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 5: at it like a random girl and like even seeing 545 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 5: her like husband and I'm like, she's so fun. 546 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: There are weird people, all know. 547 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 4: Although I will say yours was different because it wasn't 548 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 4: like it was from the next like oh. 549 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: This gout your That is true. 550 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 2: They were no man in there. I'm sending my shot. 551 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: Could I tell you? 552 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 3: Podcast with Brittany and we were talking about her dating 553 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 3: life and sexy time life, and I was like, I 554 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 3: haven't been touched an intimate with a man in over 555 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 3: two years, I know, and I go, I know this, 556 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 3: and then you know I got pregnant. Yeah, And if 557 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 3: you were just some random person, you'd be like, how 558 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 3: does that You're saying you haven't anybody, but you got pregnant, 559 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 3: so you're a liar. Back to the app. Okay, what 560 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 3: about hinge? Hinge? 561 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 4: Okay, so Hinge is interesting. There's I was never on 562 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 4: Hinge until about a year ago and I was at 563 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 4: my girlfriend's house. We were drinking wine, hanging out, and 564 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 4: she was scrolling on Hinge and I was like, oh, 565 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 4: I was like, these are like real dudes, not just 566 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 4: like LA. Right when you think of LA, what do 567 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 4: you think of like LA dudes? 568 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: What do you think of I think of the boys? 569 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 3: Good, are very well groomed, uh huh, probably jobless, uh huh. 570 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 3: They're on Runnian walking Runnion every single day. 571 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 4: We have a really really funny. 572 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 3: And they want to go out and they're very healthy, 573 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 3: very healthy, Jenna. 574 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: But do I want to do a bump in the 575 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: bathroom alway? 576 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 3: Is that what they're doing makes zero fucking Sense's skinny? 577 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 4: Trying to say skinny guys? 578 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 3: Come on, that's no. 579 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 4: But I yeah, So when she was scrolling hinge. I 580 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 4: was like, oh, these guys have jobs, Like, I was like, 581 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 4: they have real jobs. They were like and lawyers, well, doctors, right, but. 582 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 2: LA is not that high right now. 583 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 4: Right is surrounded by the entertainment industry, right, And I'm 584 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 4: a gonna lie. I went into a restaurant the other 585 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 4: day in the middle of the day and I walked 586 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 4: in and it was packed, and I looked around. I'm like, 587 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 4: does anybody here work? And I'm like, literally, looetting ready 588 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 4: and I'm like, but I'm here. 589 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 3: But I think that all the time all do run 590 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: into one's in a blue moon. I'm like, these fucking 591 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 3: lasers have no job. And then I'm like, but I'm here. 592 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 4: That's the exact time that I had. I was like, wait, 593 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 4: I just ordered lunch. 594 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: I'm here, yeah. 595 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 4: And I was also here on Monday. 596 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 3: No. I literally said to Easton, Yeah, because we've been 597 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 3: going through a mental health awakening, and I'm like, we're 598 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 3: all just a bunch of mirrors walking around. Yeah, we're 599 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: all throwing shit at each other, but your shit smells 600 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 3: just like my shit, and vice versa, and no one's 601 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 3: doing better than the other person, and it's just a crazy, 602 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 3: crazy fucking world. 603 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 5: The world is wild, and the more I look into 604 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 5: the world, and like even driving and just looking around, 605 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 5: I'm like, what is going on? 606 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, what what's it for? And what we're gonna say? 607 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 4: Well, just to go back into the dating world, you know, 608 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 4: it's it's such a crazy time in the sense of 609 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 4: there's so many opportunities, right, and it's almost dangerous because 610 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 4: we're so quick to cut someone out, which, by the way, 611 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 4: like right, I think a really important question is and 612 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 4: I actually have this question for both of you guys too. 613 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 4: Does dating get harder as we get older or do 614 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,959 Speaker 4: we just become more aware of who we are and 615 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 4: what we want. 616 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: I adore this. 617 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 3: Question so much. 618 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: It made because I'm still nervous. 619 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh god, Personally, yeah, I think it's a 620 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 3: combination of both things. 621 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: And I really hate that answer because I'm black at 622 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,479 Speaker 1: black or white. I don't like the gray Switzerland answer. 623 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 3: But I feel like it's really hard to date because 624 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 3: there's so much access. You could literally meet you know, 625 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 3: Svetlana in Russia, who's a fucking banger. You live in 626 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 3: Los Angeles, and all of a sudden you know someone 627 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: who you would never fucking know otherwise, Yes, because social media. 628 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 4: Well I was gonna say even just Instagram's like a 629 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 4: dating app now slide in someone's DMS. 630 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: But on the flip side, as you get older and 631 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 3: you evolve, Yeah, I'm going to speak for my own 632 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 3: personal experience. I no longer drink, so I don't have 633 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 3: any sort of liquid courage to make me feel you know, 634 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 3: I'm I'm not uninhibited. I don't have anything to kind 635 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 3: of give me a little bit of like it's all good. 636 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 3: I'm hyper focused. I have an out of body experience. 637 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 3: Every time I go out. It's like I'm watching myself 638 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: have conversations with people and that it's not a good feeling, 639 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 3: and maybe I'll have to go out and to make 640 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 3: that go away. But then I also think about what 641 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 3: I've built. Yeah, and I've let people in in a 642 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 3: very intimate way emotionally, physically who have turned out to 643 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 3: be scary. So that makes me nervous. Yeah, And then 644 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 3: you add the layer of I have children, what kind 645 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 3: of person are you? You stack all of those things 646 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: on top of each other, and it becomes debilitating to 647 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 3: go out and try to meet somebody. 648 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 4: I think you're setting that standard for yourself. 649 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 5: I was just gonna say, but I feel like I 650 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 5: do this, like I feel like everybody does that. 651 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 4: Well, that can go both ways though, Like I'm thirty 652 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 4: eight and I don't have kids, right, so I have 653 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 4: the same thought as like we're at a point in 654 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 4: our lives where a lot of women our age do 655 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 4: have kids. 656 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 3: Well, then I guess the question is more directed at 657 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 3: you then, because you're what's wrong without you? 658 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: No? 659 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 3: No, no, I'm saying, how do you feel that the dating world? 660 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 3: You know? Like, what is You're out here and you've 661 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 3: you've built something. 662 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: Great, you know, like, what do you feel is the issue? 663 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: Is it harder or do you just have higher standards? 664 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 4: I hate to say, you know, I'm in that gray 665 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 4: area as well, but I it is. It has to 666 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 4: be both. 667 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 5: I think it's higher standards, but it's wanting what you 668 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 5: want and also the people that you're talking to have 669 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 5: that as well, and they know what they want. 670 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 4: No, sorry, go on, go on, I want to totally 671 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 4: keep going. 672 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: I want to hear you're so excited. 673 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 2: No, tell me, tell me. 674 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 4: I you think about when we're twenty two, you see 675 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,719 Speaker 4: someone they're hot, you go out, you get drunk, one 676 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 4: night and you hook up. Whatever you do. You wake 677 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 4: up the next morning, you're like, should we go grab breakfast? Right? 678 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,239 Speaker 4: I I want you to leave well now right? 679 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: Always? 680 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 5: I like going to their house so I can leave 681 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 5: at four thirty in the morning. 682 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 4: Okay, I. 683 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: Control when when I keep that? Yeah, because there's nothing 684 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 2: worse than a lingerer. 685 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 4: Oh fuck, do we want to talk about your trauma 686 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 4: first or yours? 687 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I think we're No. 688 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 4: I think that's both both valid. 689 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: But I mean to you, when you're doing that, I 690 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: didn't know what I wanted. 691 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 4: You're not. It's thinking about the dynamics. You're not thinking 692 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 4: about kids having kids in that moment, right, You're not 693 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 4: thinking about is this person going to have the same 694 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 4: morning routine that I do? 695 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, level. 696 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: Right the ship. 697 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 4: You never thought about that before, and now I do. 698 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 4: It's one of the main things I think about. 699 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: Something If you get in. 700 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 3: Bed with me at seven o'clock, right and cover your 701 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: face and castor oil while eating good of cheese and 702 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 3: good things while watching. 703 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 2: But this is where you're gonna. 704 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: Have to give him, right, So can I tell you 705 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: the out of it? 706 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 4: Can I tell you how hard it is to date though, 707 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 4: being someone who likes to go to bed early on 708 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 4: the weekdays, Like, I'm not the person that going to 709 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 4: go out in the middle of the week and get 710 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 4: wasted on a date. 711 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: You have to be up to train people. 712 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 3: You got your fitness brand, you personal train, which you're 713 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 3: very funny about now, like it has to be. 714 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: A good gig. 715 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 3: It has for you to when you go out with somebody, 716 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 3: I want to know, is that a deal breaker if 717 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 3: they're not a physical person. 718 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 4: It's funny because people would be like, oh, she has 719 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 4: to date someone who has a six pack who's in 720 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 4: the gym all the time. Ironically enough, I prefer someone 721 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 4: who isn't as into fitness as I am. 722 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 3: Okay, why because you. 723 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 4: Know what I've noticed? Then they're tracking me. 724 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 3: They're what they're they're tracking me, and I'm like, what 725 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 3: she calls herself a personal trainer and she just hate 726 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 3: that yeah. 727 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 4: Or or or they're like, well, why aren't we in 728 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 4: the gym for two hours today? And I'm like, look, 729 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 4: I'm I'm a trainer. I love what I do. But 730 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 4: I have never been one of those trainer, one of 731 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 4: those people who want to spend all day in the gym. 732 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 4: All I do right, Like, I'm not the person who 733 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 4: wants to go to the gym and then go for 734 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 4: a four hour hike afterwords. The worst I don't write. 735 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 4: And a lot of people and dudes who are into that. 736 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 4: It's very intense and it's like almost like this weird 737 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 4: competitive of like what, I don't know. 738 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 2: I can see that. 739 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 4: I think they have to appreciate fitness, Like I couldn't 740 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 4: be with someone who didn't exercise at all. 741 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 3: I don't think, right, No, but you wouldn't want to 742 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 3: be with a gym head. No, just takes care of Yes, 743 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 3: you also have no type, like I've noticed when you 744 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 3: show me like you're attracted to. 745 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, except except that. 746 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 4: Wait, sometimes I'm like, am I allowed to look into 747 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 4: the camera and say accepting dating dating applications right now? 748 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: Yes, of course you are. 749 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 3: It's gonna be all women, but that's okay. 750 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 4: No type. I'm just gonna. 751 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: Do you train me? 752 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 3: You train Kristen, Well, she's like four hundred years pregnant. 753 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 4: Though I know I am, I gonna have. 754 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,720 Speaker 2: That kid out, She's gonna do a squat. 755 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 3: I actually am very impressed that she's worked out this long. 756 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 3: I know you were supposed to train her this morning 757 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 3: and she was like, I'm. 758 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: Good, imps, I can't. 759 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 3: Imagine body hurts. 760 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: That's weird. 761 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 3: What do you mean when you go out with your 762 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 3: friends who you train like me, for example. 763 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: When you see what we consume. 764 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 3: Like that day that we had worked out and then 765 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 3: I downed like an egg McMuffin from mynlds after, were 766 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 3: you like, oh my god, or do not even think 767 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 3: about it? 768 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 4: Oh, that's such a good like, that's such a good point. 769 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 4: So for me, I never expect people to do what 770 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 4: I do. Okay, I don't because you know how I am. 771 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 4: I believe in a sustainable lifestyle and and and truthfully, like, 772 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 4: you can eat the egg McMuffin, now, do I prefer 773 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 4: that it was healthier food not for McDonald's. Yes, I do, right, yeah, 774 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 4: But I'm not here to like deprive you of everything. Now. 775 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 4: If you were sitting here complaining about your weight, right, yeah, 776 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 4: I don't feel good in my skin, I feel obese, 777 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,439 Speaker 4: whatever it is, and you were doing that, then I'd 778 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 4: be like, let's have a conversation, because the truth is 779 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 4: you're making those choices, right, but you don't do that 780 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 4: and we talked about this so much. You're like, I 781 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 4: want to get a fair ass and I want to 782 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 4: feel good, right, And that's and that's what we do, 783 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 4: isn't it. 784 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 785 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 3: My favorite body was when I had just lost my 786 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 3: dad and I stopped drinking for like I remember at 787 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 3: the time, but I was smoking weed a lot, so 788 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 3: I was always eating and I were this Mumma was 789 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 3: thick and I was like, I feel that body. And 790 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 3: then postpartum with Ocean, postpartum with Sosa was a fucking 791 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 3: buzzkill I And people are gonna hate me for saying this, 792 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 3: but we all really we don't have right. 793 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 4: We shed the weight so quick. 794 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 3: But it fell off of me to where I got 795 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 3: skeleton again, and I'm like, what the fuck is this? 796 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 4: Yeah? 797 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 3: With Ocean, I had hips, I had I was feeling myself. 798 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 3: I was like, this is the body I've been dreaming of. 799 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 3: I'm having twelve kids because I just want to live 800 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 3: in this body forever. 801 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 4: But I had thirteen children for the body. 802 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 3: But everyone battles like I have so many questions for 803 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 3: you that will answer in the bonus of how people 804 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 3: can bounce back after having a baby. And we talk 805 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 3: about this all all the time that you almost have 806 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 3: to focus on the way your mental feels because you 807 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 3: are always going to want something that you do not have. Yeah, 808 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 3: and I don't know why God made us that way. 809 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it is what it is. 810 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 3: How do you because I I've seen you with your 811 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 3: clients and it's not just about the eating, and it's 812 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,959 Speaker 3: not just about the working out, like you have full 813 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 3: conversations about getting the mental right as well, because you're 814 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 3: trained to be a life coach. 815 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. By Jay Shetty. 816 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 2: Damn. 817 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 818 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 4: Have you ever heard of him? 819 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:11,959 Speaker 3: Has got to beautiful eyes? 820 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 4: He does, so does his wife. You're like, how did 821 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 4: this happen? 822 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 3: No, He's an extremely beautiful man, he is. 823 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: You know. 824 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 4: I think it really comes back to how I became 825 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 4: a trainer. Yeah, and you know that we've spoken about 826 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 4: this before. I became a trainer because of my anxiety 827 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 4: and situational depression. I've always struggled with anxiety. My parents 828 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,240 Speaker 4: literally had to put a punching bag in our basement 829 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 4: when I was a kid. 830 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 3: You are so Jersey right now. 831 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 2: I love it. 832 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 4: Good for your parents, you know, And it's always been 833 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 4: something that I've struggled with and dealt with and when 834 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 4: my fiance and I broke up, when I stepped away 835 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 4: from the Valley right, and and also I mean the 836 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 4: valley when stepp away from vander Pump Rules, and when 837 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,280 Speaker 4: like the show that I was working on stop filming, 838 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 4: I went into such a situational depression to the point 839 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 4: where my parents were literally like, do we have to 840 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 4: bring you home? 841 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: Right? 842 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 4: And what changed my life was exercising again, like almost 843 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 4: makes me emotional because it literally changed my life. And 844 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 4: the fact that I can help people do that is 845 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,399 Speaker 4: the biggest gift in the world because I know how 846 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 4: hard it was for me and what I went through. 847 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 4: And you say it too, like it completely changes your 848 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 4: mood and a lot of time it is the last 849 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,439 Speaker 4: thing I want to do. By the way, me too. 850 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,399 Speaker 4: I'm human, and I know you feel the same way. 851 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 4: But when you finish, it's that moment right after that 852 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 4: you just feel like a completely different person. And that 853 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 4: is why for me, the mental aspect of health and 854 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,760 Speaker 4: wellness is so prominent. 855 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I also think it got you out of 856 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 3: a really dark space. But yeah, cut to where you 857 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 3: are now and all the people that you've helped. I 858 00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 3: also think that in your personal life. It's made you 859 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,720 Speaker 3: go out into the world with intent. 860 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 5: Hm. 861 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 4: You know, yeah, I appreciate you saying that when you. 862 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 3: Can stack yourself and know that you're you're putting your 863 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 3: all into you, then you can go out into the 864 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 3: world and you can make those hard decisions like I'm 865 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 3: going to freeze my eggs because i don't know what 866 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 3: the future holds. I'm going to put myself out there 867 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 3: on dating apps and I'm gonna I actually very much 868 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 3: admire you. 869 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,959 Speaker 1: I know, we joke all the time, like Jo's. 870 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 3: Got on our four hundreds date for the week, but 871 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 3: I like socializing though that's the only bonus for it. 872 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: But I adore that about you. 873 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 3: And I truly believe that the fitness world that you 874 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 3: have just put your all into because I believe that 875 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 3: your mental is the highest of highs that comes from 876 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 3: when you work out. But it's really allowed you to 877 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 3: go out into the world and be intentional about what 878 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 3: you're doing. Yeah, you know, whether it's whether it's your dating, 879 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 3: whether you know you're facing a hard time, you're teed 880 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 3: up because you've stacked yourself so perfectly. 881 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 2: Right. 882 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 4: I I'm like speechless because that means a lot and 883 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 4: it is true, but just that you see I mean, look, 884 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 4: you're one of my best friends. Of course you see it, 885 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 4: but sometimes you know, others see it better than we do. 886 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 4: So just to hear it that way is really nice 887 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 4: and really refreshing, and I appreciate it. And that is 888 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 4: the truth. I mean, even you know it's true. 889 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have how long ago did you start 890 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 3: that online fitness? 891 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 4: Oh my god? Like the actual like month to month 892 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 4: online like real plans and work where like. 893 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, the ones that you post and like you get 894 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 3: onto the group, oh god, zooms into your workouts. 895 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 4: I love it so much twenty twenty twenty two, Like 896 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 4: during COVID twenty twenty one. Yeah, it's become very refined. 897 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 4: Like when I, like when I first launched it, it 898 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 4: was like, right, COVID hit and you know this I 899 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 4: was working on like a ninety day bridal boot camp. 900 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,240 Speaker 3: Yeah I remember. 901 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 4: Do you remember this? 902 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? I do remember. 903 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: And I created this. 904 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 4: Ninety day bridal boot camp for brides, which by the way, 905 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 4: I do have. I just don't advertise it anymore. But 906 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 4: that's what started all of it. And at the time, 907 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 4: it was because the day to day training was so 908 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 4: busy and auditioning that I couldn't manage all of it. 909 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,280 Speaker 4: So I was like, I'm going to create this online 910 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 4: program covid hit. There's no acting going on right and 911 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 4: no one's getting married. All venues are shut down. So 912 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 4: I was like, I have this skeleton of a program, right, 913 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 4: ninety day workout plan cater to at home. You helped 914 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 4: me promote this, Yeah, And I literally I taught myself 915 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 4: how to build out a pay funnel, how to build 916 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 4: a landing page. And I was like, I'm going to 917 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 4: use the skeleton of this program and teach like a 918 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 4: sanity while stuck at home workout plan a two month special. 919 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,760 Speaker 4: And I literally utilized Facebook. 920 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: Wow. 921 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 4: I used Facebook. I created a private community and I 922 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 4: launched it and like right off the bad it was 923 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 4: look very fortunate. I got like two hundred members. 924 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 2: Wow. 925 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh my gosh. I was like, this 926 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 4: is something I and you know what the beauty And 927 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 4: I was like, I can reach more people than just 928 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 4: my day to day clients. I can help more people 929 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 4: and make people feel better as a whole versus just 930 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 4: you and me day to day, right, And that is 931 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 4: that is a fucking gift. 932 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is how do people sign up or learn 933 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 3: about learn more about this? 934 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, so like basically through time. Now now I 935 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 4: have an app. Now it's all refined. Oh nice, Yeah so, 936 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 4: and now it's literally like I do personalized month to 937 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,240 Speaker 4: month meal plans and workout plans. 938 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 3: I can people pick and choose, like if they're like, uh, 939 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 3: the package where you you do the workout and meal 940 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 3: plan little too steep for me right now. 941 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: I just want to stick to one or the other. 942 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 4: One hundred percent. And of course I always say, you know, 943 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 4: depending on what your goals are, nutrition and you know, 944 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 4: exercise come hand in hand. But one thousand percent. If 945 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 4: someone's like I can only do this part or I 946 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 4: already have this routine going and you can find the 947 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,320 Speaker 4: link on my Instagram Miss Jenna Willis link in bio. 948 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: Ms Jenna Willis. 949 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I first myself actually single forever. This 950 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 4: might have missed When I eated my Instagram Mandle, I 951 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 4: was like, I think I actually you. 952 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,800 Speaker 3: Maybe should have done m I at. 953 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 1: I love it. You guys asked. 954 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,479 Speaker 3: A lot of questions, so we're going to deep dive 955 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 3: into the bonus and answer those with Jenna. 956 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:28,879 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much. 957 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 3: For listening to another episode. Thank you, missus Jenna Willis 958 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 3: miss and we will catch you on Monday for the 959 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 3: bonus and again Wednesday for a regular old episode. 960 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: Hi guys,