1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: ESPN and SEC Network analyst Cole Cublic is with us 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: now from Nashville, Tennessee. Cole, what's up? How are you? Button? JP? 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: Doing well? Just trying to uh, trying to survive the 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: crowd down here, man, it's pretty nuts. Yeah, you're there 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: for serious XM radio and you're gonna be there throughout 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: the weekend. It sounds like, Yeah, there's a lot of people. 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: They're they're moving this draft around now, Cole. And it 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: seems to be bigger and bigger and bigger every year. 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: This one last night, just when it looks out on TV, 10 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: and now you're seeing it in person today. I think 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: they may have topped all of them. I think this 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: one's gonna be hard to talk, honestly. I just I 13 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: don't know how. If you if you've been to Nashville 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: and you know how downtown is laid out, Broadway is 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: the perfect place to have it because you know, it's 16 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: kind of a little bit of a downhill slope because 17 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: right down there to the water, and then you have 18 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: you have that landing right by the water where they 19 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: could set up the stage, and it's just a row 20 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: of bars, restaurants and hotels. Got Bridge Stone Arena right 21 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 1: there as well, so everybody's already familiar with coming down 22 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: there at the party, bachelor parties, New Year's Eve, to 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: hang out a concerts, and then Titan games and get 24 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: the stadium across the river in the background. It's just 25 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: it really is a perfect setting. And I think Nashville 26 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: has really turned into one of the more popular tourist 27 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: destinations in the country, so a lot of people have 28 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: heard about it want to come here anyway. And geographically 29 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: you get a lot of the fans from the southeastern 30 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: portion of the country, So Jack fans, Falcon fans, obviously, 31 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: Titan fans are gonna be here in New Orleans, Saints 32 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,639 Speaker 1: fans if they want to come check out the draft, 33 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: it's all in decent proximity for them, and it's a 34 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: short drive for Colts fans from Indianapolis. It's a it's 35 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: a it's a perfect setting, and I imagine this is 36 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: gonna be very difficult to talk. We'll get to Josh 37 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: Allen coming up. You had a tweet yesterday after the 38 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: first round twenty three of the thirty two picks are 39 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: on the line of scrimmage. That tells you something about 40 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: how football is designed. To be played cool. Listen. I 41 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: love it. I love the fact that it's still a 42 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage league, and I think this year we're 43 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: seeing it now. Part of it is not ultimately that 44 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: surprising because I thought, at least in the SEC, probably 45 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: nationally JP, this was the best group of defenders on 46 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: the line of the scrimmage that I can recall, especially Interier, 47 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: your defenders. When you look at at Jeffrey Simmons, and 48 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: you look at Rashawn Gary, and you look at Quinton Williams, 49 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: and then you've got guys like Richard Lawrence at l 50 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: s U, Derek Brown at Auburn, Javon Kinlaw at South Carolina, 51 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: who are even gonna be back next year, but we're 52 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 1: still playing this year and giving people problems. Benito Jones 53 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: at Old Miss is one of those guys. And then 54 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: you have the Josh Allens and the Bosas and the 55 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: edge guys. Montest sweat to the state that we're also 56 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: a force and a great group of linebackers. And I 57 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: always got two tight ends to go in the first 58 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: round album, it was about one that's probably coming off 59 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: the board soon. It just just re this wasn't a 60 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: strong offensive line class, and you saw a couple of 61 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: guys go like Titus Howard out of Albama State that 62 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody expect you to be a first 63 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: round pick. So, uh, it's it's pretty cool to see 64 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: that with this seven on seven fantasy football world that 65 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: we're living in, the line of scrimmage still has an emphasis. 66 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: Col Cubula is with US at ESPN and SEC Network 67 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: analyst w j o X radio host in Birmingham, a 68 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: former Auburn center. The Josh Allen's story is pretty remarkable. 69 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: He was an all state receiver at Abbeyville, Alabama as 70 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: a junior in high school, then moved back to New Jersey, 71 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: switched to defense as a senior in high school. He 72 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: was a two star recruit to Monmouth and then went 73 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: to Kentucky and now he's the SEC defensive Player of 74 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: the Year and the seventh overall pick just a few 75 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: years later. That is, UH, rags to riches if you will. 76 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: For Josh Allen, it's wild and it's a pretty incredible story. 77 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: You know, went back and forth from Alabama the New 78 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: Jersey with the family barely recruited, like you mentioned, and 79 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: uh didn't really have a position. I think when he 80 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: ended up going to play college football in morph into 81 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: this edge defender, pass rushing linebacker that I think just 82 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: the sky is the limit for The cool thing about 83 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: him is I think he's still a little bit raw, 84 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: and he developed a couple of counter moves this year. 85 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: He really lived on the dip and rip. Two years ago. 86 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: That was kind of the only his bread and butter 87 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: and one of the only real moves that he got 88 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: consistent wins with as a pass rusher. But he's continuing 89 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: to develop as a pass rusher and I think understands 90 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna take bonus moves. But the number one thing 91 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: that people need to know about Josh Allen is Jacksonville 92 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: is getting an amazing young man. When you sit down 93 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: and talk to him, the maturity, how humble he is, 94 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: it really is incredible. And he's always been a joy 95 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: to be around. I've covered probably ten twelve of his 96 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: games in his collegiate career. The coach's rave about what 97 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: kind of human being he is. The leadership, the demeanor, 98 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: and you know, you put it on the field. It's 99 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: not just a production, but the late production that I 100 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: really like. You go back this past year and you're 101 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: talking about a guy who is getting stripped sacks at 102 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: the end of games. You go back to the Mississippi 103 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: State game, you go back to the South Carolina game 104 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: strip stacked against A Bentley, the Florida games trip set 105 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: against Philip bay Franks. I mean he closed games down. 106 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: He was kind of like the Mariano Rivera uh the 107 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: SEC this past year. And I think he has a 108 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: lot of room to grow still. I think that the 109 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: one of the more impressive things about him that nobody 110 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: talks about is put on the Texas A and M 111 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: film and you'll see him multiple times going step for 112 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: step with Texas A and M tight end J Sternberger. 113 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: I mean a guy who can handle himself in coverage 114 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: and is not a liability and coverage and can run 115 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: with speedy tight ends. So he's a total package. And 116 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: I think he still has room to grow. If he 117 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: is at every down handing the ground guy, which we 118 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: expect him certainly to be here in Jacksonville. That's that's 119 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: where that can grow. If he can only concentrate on 120 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: one thing, and that's getting to the quarterback, that might 121 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: help him right. Cole absolutely, and I think the the 122 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: the amount of attention that's probably not going to be 123 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: on him will also help. When you think about Khlis 124 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: Campbell and and you think about probably maybe the best 125 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: offensive tackle tandem in the NFL right now, When when 126 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: you think about what those two guys can do on 127 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: the interior of that defensive line. So, I mean, it's 128 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be scary to think about. And when you 129 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: got guys on the back end who can cover that, 130 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: that only makes your life a little bit easier when 131 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: you're trying to get to the quarterback. So I think 132 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: I think Jacksonville's defense gets better, Jacksonville's defense gets more athletic, 133 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: And that's that's kind of a scary thought because they've 134 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: they've been successful with some hybrid guys for the last 135 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: few years, and I think they got another one that's 136 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: gonna be able to help do a lot of different things. Yeah, 137 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: think about the passing down defensive line. Josh Allen, Calais, Campbell, 138 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: Marcel Darius unique In Gotquay, those are the four up 139 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: front for the Jaguars. It's pretty good. Yeah, And you 140 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: don't want to be an office devon right now in 141 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: the FCCL. So it's uh that that that's not the 142 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: division that you want to be having, that's not the 143 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: team you want to be having a face on a 144 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: regular basis. All right, is there was he far and 145 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: away the defensive player of the year in the SEC 146 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: last year. Who else would have been close to him? Now, 147 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: Quintin Williams was really close Quinton Williams, Well, I wouldn't 148 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: have It's a coin toss between those two, honestly, um. 149 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: And he had the advantage of just being closer to 150 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: the football and and being so destructive at the point 151 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: of attack. I mean he was. He was a guy 152 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: that literally could dominate the point of attack on a 153 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: regular basis, but also lined up right over the football 154 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: and that made life very difficult on his opponents. So 155 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: it was those two and then a pretty big gap 156 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: between everybody else Dead and White may have been close, 157 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: mind backer at a l s U he did some 158 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: really good things, but I think all at all, Uh, 159 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: you're talking about Quinnin Williams and Josh Allen as the 160 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: two best defenders in the SEC last year.