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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast believes in the legend of Kiko.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the League Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Chris Westling, Mark Sessler, and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What up boys? Hey? Dan? How you doing? This?

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Speaker 1: Is getting grosser and grosser? Studio sixty six. Under West's

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Speaker 1: the Internet was unplugged on the computers. There's a monitor

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Speaker 1: on the floor, the gold standard behind the glass. Do

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Speaker 1: you know anything about what's going on when we're not here?

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Speaker 1: I saw nothing. I saw nothing. It is a pig

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Speaker 1: stye in there, though it looks like animal house got

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Speaker 1: recreated in here. Yeah. Well, if you want to talk

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Speaker 1: about connective tissue, Mark, you asked me just before the

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Speaker 1: podcast went on, who was sitting at your desk yesterday?

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Speaker 1: All right? I come into what I come into work

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Speaker 1: be responsible for both episodes. Well, I we don't want

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Speaker 1: floor right now. But Dave Damashek was sitting at your

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Speaker 1: He is. He is a clean gentleman. A lot of

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Speaker 1: Doesn't matter who's I'll just leave food and napkins scattered about. Alright,

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Speaker 1: look what you've done. Now we're gonna have to issue

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Speaker 1: a second public apology to Dave damage. And I know

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Speaker 1: we've got to be careful with that. We have to

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Speaker 1: do have a lot to get to today. But um,

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Speaker 1: or read by now, uh Mark, you were involved in

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Speaker 1: it it's not it's not necessarily something that I want

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Speaker 1: Let's let's just move on to the games, alright, cool, alright?

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Speaker 1: So Week sixteen is here. It is um a big

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Speaker 1: week sixteen, A lot of playoff implications. Usually when we

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Speaker 1: start going through the games for week sixteen on Friday,

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Speaker 1: we go through the top games. But we're gonna start

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Speaker 1: with the hero picks right now because there's some heat

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Speaker 1: Can we can we go down that road right now?

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Speaker 1: Defend your hero sulty Seduction Friday. That will have to

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Speaker 1: do for Seduction Friday with k Riche not here today, Dan,

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Speaker 1: do you know how you can't you can't get a

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Speaker 1: This is the game of the year. By the way,

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Speaker 1: interesting game. I I don't know even know who I picked,

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Speaker 1: coming off two games, by the way, seventeen carries sixty

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Speaker 1: This will be very interesting to see how the end

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Speaker 1: of the season plays out for the Dolphins. And I

427
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: think the Dolphins are not a great running team, which

428
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 1: does not work well this week because the Bills give

429
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Speaker 1: up some big running plays. They give up a lot

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Speaker 1: of forty fifty yard running plays, and the conditions they

431
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: are supposed to be wet. It's gonna be a muddy track.

432
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: So who who would you rather have? Fred Jackson and C. J.

433
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Speaker 1: Spiller in the mud or the Dolphins two pack a

434
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Speaker 1: Lamar Millar in my boy Thomas. One last note, no

435
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 1: Stevie Johnson in that game. Yeah no, no Stevie Luigi Manual.

436
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,239
Speaker 1: Moving on the Minnesota Vikings. Who are they gonna have

437
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson back this week? He is questionable? He's expected

438
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Speaker 1: to play, all right. They traveled to Cincinnati to face

439
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Speaker 1: the ben Gals, who are coming off very disappointing uh

440
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 1: grim Sunday night loss to the Steelers. This would make sense,

441
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Speaker 1: Greg that the Bengals would get healthy here and beat

442
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Speaker 1: up on a Vikings team at they're much better than

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Speaker 1: Is that how it's gonna play out? We all picked

444
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 1: the Bengals and uh, it's hard to see the Vikings

445
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: defense really doing anything. They're one of the worst groups

446
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: in the league. But I think this is a dangerous matchup.

447
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: The Vikings have been very frisky for the last five weeks.

448
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: And if you put on the tape of that Vikings

449
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: Eagles game last week and you didn't know who the

450
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: quarterback for Minnesota was, it was, you know, just cover

451
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 1: it up you don't know who it is. That was

452
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: one of the ten best quarterback performances by any player

453
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Speaker 1: all season long. Matt Castle dropping bombs down the field

454
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Speaker 1: on target. Their receive Cordarell Patterson is kind of unlocked.

455
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: Jennings looks a little better Peterson's back in the lineup.

456
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Speaker 1: I think it's a very dangerous game for since where

457
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Speaker 1: they're not a better offense without having to cater to

458
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Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson day No, no, no, I'm saying they're getting

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Speaker 1: Peterson back. Plus Castle played outstanding last week. The odds

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Speaker 1: on him doing that two straight weeks, but I don't

461
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Speaker 1: he played great. If you just watched him for one game,

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Speaker 1: you would have thought he was a top ten type

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Speaker 1: of quarterback. Would you believe? The Vikings are tenth in

464
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Speaker 1: the NFL and offensive touchdowns right, So I wonder what

465
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 1: the number would be an only Castle starts, because they've

466
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Speaker 1: been putting up a lot more points when he does start,

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Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be a game with a

468
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Speaker 1: lot of scoring. I think the Bengals will score plenty

469
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Speaker 1: too well. On the other side of the ledger, the

470
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Speaker 1: Bengals are one of four teams that they have yet

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Speaker 1: to lose at home this year. Surprising, we don't hear

472
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Speaker 1: them get brought up as one of the They do

473
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Speaker 1: play in the jungle, they do clinch a playoffs spot

474
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Speaker 1: with the win. They don't clinch the division. But there's

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Speaker 1: a chance here my favorite scenario of the week that

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Speaker 1: if the Bengals lose this game and a few other

477
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: things happen, that the a f C North title could

478
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Speaker 1: be on the line in Week seventeen, where the winner

479
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 1: gets the two seed and the losers out of the playoffs.

480
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Speaker 1: The Bengals are not. They need to get this game

481
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Speaker 1: to be a lock and not worry about it. If

482
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Speaker 1: we could give Mark one thing for Christmas, it would

483
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Speaker 1: be the Bengals not in the playoffs. Let's I'll say

484
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Speaker 1: one quick got you skip through these jaguarres games. At

485
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Speaker 1: the end, you put on the tape of Castle last week,

486
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Speaker 1: and you don't let anyone know who it is, and

487
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: you'd be surprised to find out you watch last week's

488
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 1: tape of any Dalton, you know exactly who it is.

489
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Speaker 1: I'm not even trying to just be flipped that that

490
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: is the guy that's holding that team back. That was

491
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,719
Speaker 1: a big game and they blew it. The Denver Broncos

492
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: head to Houston to face the Texans. Texans lose every week,

493
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Speaker 1: so I can't imagine they're gonna beat the Broncos and

494
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: Denver so much to play for West. West is going

495
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: to say though, that the Texans gonna put up a

496
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Speaker 1: lot of points and win this game, isn't he? No,

497
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say I didn't think they now were

498
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Speaker 1: without Ben Tate. They have shot back, understander. I haven't

499
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: seen anything from shop in about a year and a half.

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Speaker 1: That would make me believe he's going to give the

501
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Speaker 1: Broncos a scare. Can I just ask one question, what

502
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: exactly happened to match up? Why is he this guy

503
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: now as opposed to what he was last year? Is

504
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: it injuries? Are he's only thirty two that I don't

505
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: want to get hung up on this, but that we

506
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Speaker 1: talked about, it's a little bit earlier in the year

507
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Speaker 1: that he's become a different quarterback in the fact that

508
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: he doesn't go down the field anymore. Even on play action,

509
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: he dumps the ball off, doesn't test defenses deep. To me,

510
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: that seems like he had some kind of arm issue

511
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: that he that the Texans and he just won't talk about.

512
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: But that's just a wild guest. No, Wes Welker in

513
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: this game. They were frisky the last home game. They

514
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: only they should have beaten the Patriots in their last

515
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: home game. No, Wes Welker. That does change their offense

516
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 1: quite a bit. They don't really have anyone that can

517
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Speaker 1: replace what Welker does. They really changed up and you

518
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 1: saw that last Their game at Indianapolis last week was

519
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: one of the worst football games I've ever seen. Any

520
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: team play. They were bad in every phase. They couldn't.

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Speaker 1: They had some of the dumbest plays, some of the

522
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: worst penalties, some of the worst mess ups. It was

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00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: just awful. They looked like a team that had checked

524
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Speaker 1: out for the season. It's ridiculous that this Texans team

525
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: is still fourth in total defense. How stupid that's that

526
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 1: is because it's not at all who they've been on

527
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Speaker 1: the field. Agree. The Tennessee Titans, coming off an overtime

528
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Speaker 1: law us to the Cardinals, travel to Jacksonville to face

529
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Speaker 1: the Frisky Jaguars. That's a frisky hat trick for the podcast.

530
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: By the way, it's three friskies in the last five minutes. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. This is a game with no playoff implications,

532
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: but I want you to get us excited about it.

533
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: I think what's exciting for Jacksonville's fan base is that, yeah,

534
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: no playoff implications, but this team honestly has played a

535
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: lot better in the last month and a half, and

536
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: it gives you some hope that I think you know

537
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: Gus Bradley, I thought he was a good hire despite

538
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: the talent he inherited, which was little or none. But

539
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: they've got some interesting young players, So you're not gonna

540
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: see Cecial Shorts. He's out for the year. But uh,

541
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: you know, Toddman is interesting in the backfield. I kind

542
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: of like some of the young players on this team,

543
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: and I think there's some hope their wide receiver's rival

544
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: the jet right, not if you are right now, but

545
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: if you have Shorts and if you get if Justin

546
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,719
Speaker 1: Bett Blackman cleans the situation up, that's not a bad duel, right.

547
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: Jaguars fans should be rooting to lose because they have

548
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: the number two pick right now, and if they lose

549
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: another game, could really slide. I mean they have I

550
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: think actually they don't have the two pick now. If

551
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: they win one more game, there's so many team at

552
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: four wins that they're gonna slide way down in the draft.

553
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: And at this point that's more important. They made EJ.

554
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: Manuel look good last week. I don't think the fans

555
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: have anything to worry about. Yeah, I never buy into

556
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: the hole. You get some momentum late in the season either,

557
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Do you think there's I just like

558
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: I think there's I like the GM and the coach.

559
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: The Indianapolis Colts coming off a win over the Texans

560
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: now travel to Kansas City, the face of Chiefs team

561
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: that got pretty healthy against the Raiders putting up a

562
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: fifty burger. Um, Greg, this is this is a good

563
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: matchup and will be maybe a good indicator again as

564
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: we try to get a grip on what the culture

565
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,959
Speaker 1: going to be when they get to January. Maybe put

566
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: up a good effort here and we can believe in

567
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: them a little. Well. This is of two playoff teams.

568
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: It's very possibly a preview of the Saturday afternoon game

569
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Could be Colts Chiefs, except the game

570
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: would be in Indianapolis. We haven't given the Chiefs enough

571
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: credit for totally turning their season around. We we killed

572
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: Alex Smith and how lame he was early in the season.

573
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: And this is what they've done in the last four

574
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: weeks thirty eight points, twenty eight points against Denver, forty

575
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: five and fifty six. And I know the matchups were

576
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: easy for the most part, but I don't care. That's

577
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: something else. I mean, they are putting up points, and

578
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: they're a lot more dangerous right now than I ever

579
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: thought they'd be. I now think this is the second

580
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: best team in the a f C. They're gonna get

581
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: Justin Houston back. The defense will probably come around a

582
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: little bit, and the offense is Alex Smith is playing

583
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: differently than he was earlier in the year. He's testing

584
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: defenses down the field. Jamal Charles is to me a

585
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: top three m VP candidate. This is a good team.

586
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: I think they're better than the Bengals. I know they're

587
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: better than the Patriots, and then then they should romp

588
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: in this game. We all picked the Chiefs. By the way,

589
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: this was a sweep. No love for Andrew Luck and

590
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: the Colts. He's got to earn the well, not him particularly,

591
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: but the team needs to earn the respect. Uh. They

592
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: had a blowout victory last week and I was trying

593
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: to think of one good takeaway for the Colts from

594
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: that game, and the only thing I could muster up

595
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: was Trent Richardson had fifty one yards in the fourth

596
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: quarter garbage time, which was the second most yards by

597
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: any Colts back all season in one quarter. I think

598
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: how much the Chiefs sort of image has changed that.

599
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: Chris Westling yesterday in the newsroom was begging to cover

600
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: this game on Sunday. He wanted to see the high

601
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: flying chiefs on the field. For all those guys who

602
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: said we didn't give enough credit early in the season,

603
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: even though they're not playing defense, we're still we're kind

604
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: of liking him. Now, well, here's one game that nobody

605
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: wants to cover, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers traveling to St.

606
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: Louis to face as West. I ask you, I'm covering

607
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: it as a fan of of this game and the

608
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: competition that it promises to get Joe football fan excited.

609
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: Weird name Joe. Robert Quinn is one of the most

610
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: fun defensive players in the league if you like to

611
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: watch defense, Uh, certainly at home, kind of like watching

612
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: Glennon every week and seeing his development. It's it's not

613
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: that great a game, but I assigned it to have

614
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: some bad games on signy. We can't all have, you know, beauties.

615
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: Buccaneers also have the most underrated defensive player in the NFL.

616
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: Who is that, Lavonte David. Yes, you could make the

617
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: argument Gerald McCoy is just as underrated. You could. Yes,

618
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: he I mean he's been great. It doesn't quite add

619
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: up to a great team. You're I can't really sell

620
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: this game too much. Doesn't matter. The Ramps can get

621
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: the seven wins, Siana is fighting for his job. Mark,

622
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: you got anything. I'm letting you handle this one win

623
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: or lose. Less Need wakes up Monday morning and is

624
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: still beautiful. Let's be fair, He's going to take out

625
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: a restraining order on you. There is a strange pattern

626
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: to your less Need comments. But we'll we'll just roll

627
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: with them. They're getting more and more direct. Let's move

628
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: on the Dallas Cowboys coming off just really one of

629
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: the worst regular season losses in the franchise's history. There's

630
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: no other way around it. Head to Washington. They get

631
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: the perfect opponent right now, the Redskins, who can't figure

632
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 1: out how to win. Although to their credit and they

633
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: got lambasted again this week for being a tremendous mess,

634
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: but they almost won that game. They came uh two

635
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: point conversion away from doing it. Mark, I'm gonna ask

636
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: you the Dallas Cowboys. Are they gonna get to Week

637
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: seventeen set up for the Shakespearean tragedy with a win? Here?

638
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Speaker 1: Get to that game for the division title? When was

639
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: it a Week three or four that we first said

640
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: Dallas will finish eight and eight and probably win the

641
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: division doing so? Uh, that's exactly what's going to happen,

642
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: not varying one inch off that prediction. And yeah, they'll

643
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: take care of business. But you know what's sad, this

644
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: game is is much more depressing than one could ever

645
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Speaker 1: have imagined that Washington is to me an energy suck

646
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: and and every time I have to read think ponder

647
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: on what's happened in that franchise this season, it's it's rough.

648
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: And Dallas, meanwhile, is a team that has anyone still

649
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: trusting The Cowboys is delusional because they cannot handle their

650
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: own business. That game last week is disgraceful. That's a

651
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: house cleaning type of game. And they won't because they

652
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: will continue to make the same mistakes they always make.

653
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: We all picked the Cowboys, though, just like we all

654
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: picked the Cowboys last week, they'll win this game. We

655
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: picked the Cowboys because the Redskins aren't finding ways to win,

656
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: They're inventing new ways to lose. Yeah, Dan was trying

657
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: to stretched to give him a little credit, but they

658
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: weren't playing the Falcons last week. Let's not get carried away.

659
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: What a what a delicious day it would be though

660
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: for everyone in the country that do not like the Cowboys,

661
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: which is pretty much everyone except for Cowboys fans if

662
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: they lost this game. I mean, nothing's out of bounds

663
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: with this team, but you want them to win this

664
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Speaker 1: game because then if you really hate the Cowboys, that

665
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: sets you up for the week seventeen Alan Chris Sunday

666
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: Night to Bacle, which is way more painful than losing

667
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: in Washington in Week sixteen. It's I guess it's more painful,

668
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: that's true, and more embarrassing, though, unless you're a team

669
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Speaker 1: that is completely content to go eight and eight. Tony

670
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: Romo was part of the problem, and I've always defended

671
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: him as a guy that was underrated, I thought throughout

672
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: his career. But he's not hitting the deep ball. I mean,

673
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: there were three plays last week where he had does

674
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: open and he couldn't hit it. He's been a big

675
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: part of the problem. He needs to have a huge game.

676
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. I have defended him his

677
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: whole career that his game last week was so bad

678
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: and it was such a big spot Um to falter

679
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: in that way. I mean, he it's almost as if

680
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: is it possible that all the negative heat around him

681
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: heat um has now started to manifest itself physically, and

682
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: he is becoming what everyone said he was. Well. No

683
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: West wrote a great Peace Dallas abandoning the run game,

684
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: which I think was the fatal flaw last week against

685
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: That's my point, and that's what WESSO is that this

686
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: is this is a guy that anointed as we want

687
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: him to be our Peyton Manning from the neck up

688
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: right down at the line of scrimmage. He's not that guy.

689
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: Their second half, you couldn't draw up a worse coaching performance.

690
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: You couldn't even invent it. They broke all laws of coaching.

691
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: It was awful. There's so many things to kill about

692
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: this team. But if they can win, uh, they get

693
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 1: to next week with the game online. If they lost

694
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: this game, the Eagles can win the division on Sunday night,

695
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: And and if we do get that Week seventeen game,

696
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: that will be the fourth time in the Romo era,

697
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: right that they're playing for the division in Week seventeen.

698
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 1: I can't think of any other division that that's even

699
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: happened once. Am I wrong? Since this Sunday night, you know,

700
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: that's the only I don't think I got any division

701
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: in the last ten years, especially since they've done the

702
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: Flex game on the Sunday night has had this situation.

703
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: This would be the fourth time they got drilled by

704
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: the Eagles. They convincingly lost to the Giants in two

705
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Speaker 1: thousand and eleven, and then they lost last year to

706
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Speaker 1: the Rest And we'll just keep putting them on national television.

707
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what they do. They're the most mediocre team

708
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: in the entire league, entertaining at some point it's embarrassing,

709
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: and they make NBC and they may rog guap. Speaking

710
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: of losses that double his unspeakable tragedies, Let's welcome on

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Speaker 1: to the line to the Around the League podcast, Kevin Patra,

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Speaker 1: how's it going, fellas we Uh, you are Alliance fan? Correct?

713
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: That is unfortunately correct? Take us through your feeling Monday night.

714
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: As John Harbor runs one into the line to set

715
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: up a sixt yard field goal and then Justin Tucker

716
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: drills it through, my thought was thank you for running

717
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: the ball. And then I was trying to figure out

718
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: why Jim Schwartz wasn't taking good time out just in

719
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 1: case he made it to give his team a little

720
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: bit more time. Uh, And then as soon as it

721
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: hit the era, it was good. That's just how those

722
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: things were of gop for Detroit. So um, and then

723
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: and then of course Stafford throws one high to end

724
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: the game, and that was just typical right there to

725
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: end it. I mean that I was in a roomful

726
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: about a dozen Lions fans watching the game and pretty

727
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: much predicted the end of that game. Kevin, is it

728
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: is this? Really? You're the true Kevin pat trick coming out? Yeah.

729
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: Disenchanted would be the word I would. Uh. We decided

730
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: the other day that the Lions fans have to be

731
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: the most passive aggressive fan base and all of fandom.

732
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: I mean, we're like the unappreciated girlfriend. We won't leave,

733
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: but we'll just get drunk and make a seat at

734
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: the holiday party or something. Now I can think of

735
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: a few other fan bases. So patra h you might

736
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: have heard earlier in the week after that performance, which

737
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: was basically Stafford's maybe second or third really bad game

738
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: of the year. He's played pretty well overall, been a

739
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: top ten quarterback all year. Mike O'Hara asked Jim Shortz

740
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: if he's considered benching Matthew Stafford. How did you feel

741
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: about that line of questioning? This is what Mike Shanahan

742
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: has done to us at this point. I think that's ridiculous.

743
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: He's clearly the best quarterback on the team. He's twenty

744
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 1: five years old. You don't bench him for any reason.

745
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's definitely not played up to his standards

746
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: that he said even earlier this year. The last few weeks,

747
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: he has ten interceptions in the last five games. He

748
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: does throw high too much mechanics. My problem is part

749
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: of the problem is the coaching staff still Um had

750
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: makes excuses for his poor mechanics at times. Um I

751
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: think that mentioning him is the most ridiculous overreaction. And

752
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: even I think that Michael Harris one of those legendary

753
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: b writer guys in Detroit, but I think he got

754
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: over rezulous with that question. This is really disappointed because

755
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,959
Speaker 1: I was hoping we could catch Patri in a moment

756
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: of weakness, he would be on board with Jettison, uh Stafford,

757
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: and then we could play it back to him. When

758
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: Stafford is, you know, an MVP candidate a month from

759
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: or a month from now, or a year from now,

760
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: month from now, well, you do want to from you

761
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: do want to fire swords right, you want to get

762
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: rid of Swarts. You want to clean house. You don't

763
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: remember what it was like before Swarts. I I think

764
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: that with the Lions fans there's a little bit of

765
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: be careful what you wish for her here with getting

766
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: rid of Schwartz. Don't forget what it was like before

767
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: he got here. Trust me, I go to sleep every

768
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: night remembering about Mayor and Elly and Morton Wigg There's

769
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: no doubt of that. Patrick, Here's the thing you have

770
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: to understand about those guys. Though. They also didn't have

771
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: a Matthew Stafford at quarterback, and they didn't have a

772
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: pretty decent defensive line either. Do you also go to

773
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: sleep with the dulcet tones of Joey Harrington playing the

774
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: piano and eating strawberries? Hey? So you, But let's be fair,

775
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: it's not over yet, and there is a scenario which

776
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: Greg seems to think is very possible, where the lines

777
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: somehow come out of this. I think they're going to

778
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: the playoffs and when when their division. Let me ask you,

779
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: this is a pretty good spot for you. Now you

780
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: can get back on your feet against a pretty dreadful

781
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: Giants team in your own building. That's a good way

782
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: to get back on track right there there. There's absolutely

783
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: no doubt that I believe Greg is correct because I've

784
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: seen this rerun before. It's called Wayne Fonts in the

785
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: mid nineties, where every time he was on the brinks

786
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: getting fired, he'd have an eight and eight or ninety

787
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: seventh season to save his job by going to the

788
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: playoffs and getting whooped in the first round. I've seen

789
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: the story before. Nice, I like it. Well, Kevin, you

790
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: you sound um defiant or something's going on. I could

791
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: tell there's a there's an edge to you right now.

792
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: You are, Yeah, there's heat involved. You are the around

793
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: the League Chicago correspondent. And we'll check back in with

794
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 1: you on Sunday and see how how you're feeling. Then,

795
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: all right, I appreciate a fellas. There he goes, Kevin

796
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: Patrick coming at you. Oh I like that. Yeah, that

797
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: was new. That came from somebody. I think at the

798
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 1: holiday party. You shouldn't bring the holiday party up. Okay,

799
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: Moving on Arizona at Seattle, this is a big game.

800
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: Obviously the Cardinals if they have any hopes of holding

801
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: up getting that six seed, they're going to have to

802
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: take down the Seattle Seahawks in their building, which no

803
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: one has done. Greg. I can't wrap my head a

804
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: head around a scenario where the Cardinals come out of

805
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: that building with a victory, can you I can. I

806
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: think their defensive line in front seven just dominate the game.

807
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 1: I think Russell Wilson's offensive line is one of the

808
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: worst in the league. He gets pressured about as much

809
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: as any quarterback in the league. The Cardinals have the

810
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: horses to just have a great defensive performance, stay in

811
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Speaker 1: this game him and when it late. Wouldn't shock me.

812
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: This is one of the shocked me. I guess we're

813
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: not going to pick him, but I could see it.

814
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: I don't think anything shocking at this Interceptions bring up

815
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: that side. That's fair though. Palmer needs to play the

816
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: game of his life. He's not had a bad season

817
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,479
Speaker 1: compared what I thought he would be. He's he's gone

818
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: beyond what I thought he'd be with the last half season.

819
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: He's been very against He's kind of I would have

820
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: been surprised if he were a disaster that had been

821
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: benched in Week eight. I wouldn't have been springing it.

822
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: Last week against Tennessee. He had made a lot of

823
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: great throws. Damnitchek told us yesterday that he has a

824
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,959
Speaker 1: sessler on this game that the Cardinals will go into

825
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: Seattle and win, And I told him he was nuts.

826
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Speaker 1: You know, it's not happening interesting it would be. It

827
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: would be shocking. And the saddest thing for Cardinals fans

828
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: is it might not matter. There's a good chance that

829
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: if they beat Seattle this week and they beat San

830
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: Francisco next week, they're probably not going to the playoffs anyways.

831
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Speaker 1: That's how hard it's gonna be for Arizona to get

832
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: in because they're gonna need other teams to lose. They

833
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: really need the Panthers to lose this week to the

834
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Speaker 1: Saints for any chance to get that wild card. Sounds weird,

835
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: but it's because the tiebreakers are we sure This is

836
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: still a great defense without the honey Badger. Now it's

837
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: a very different defense. They give up a lot of

838
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: numbers that they make a lot of plays. They're kind

839
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 1: of like a boomer bust. They blitz more than any

840
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: team in the entire league. Another team that has playoff

841
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: hopes but a very bad tiebreaker situation is the San

842
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: Diego Chargers. UH coming off the great win in Denver

843
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: on Thursday Night football day now host the Oakland Raiders,

844
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: the free falling Oakland Raiders. Uh, Mark, I ask you,

845
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: the Chargers are playing very well. Philip Rivers is having

846
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: such a great season, they're probably gonna take this game. Correct.

847
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna definitely win this game. You know,

848
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: we looked at a couple of weeks ago at the

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00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: team's remaining the n f C, who had a shot

850
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: and it was hard to look San Diego because of

851
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: the schedule. But they've gone and done. You want to talk.

852
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: You know, a week ago, we wouldn't have said, oh,

853
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 1: we we think Saneo can go into Denver and take

854
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: care of business. And uh, they did exactly that, and

855
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: so I could see Arizona doing the same thing. But

856
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: when it comes to San Diego, this team has uh

857
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: survived this far behind. I think an underrated head coach

858
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: who has done a better job than people expected on

859
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, that's his side. I mean,

860
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: I think that Philip Rivers is uh the reason that

861
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: you have to have some hope in San Diego. Still,

862
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: I don't think they get in, but that's the real

863
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: that's your hope, Philip Rivers. I think McCoy and with

864
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: Hunt deserve a ton of credit for their scheming and

865
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: their game planning and turning Philip Rivers around and how

866
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: they use their personnel, but they're in game coaching leaves

867
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: a lot to be desired. McCoy has been very questionable

868
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. I mean, you're right. We looked

869
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: at the schedule and we thought it would be too

870
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: tough for them, And but they want in Kansas City,

871
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: they won in Denver, and it's not gonna matter. They're

872
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: gonna get eliminated this week. If the Ravens or the

873
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: Dolphins win their game, it's over for the Chargers. I mean,

874
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: they they need both of those teams to lose, lose

875
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: both their games the rest of the way. So they're scenario.

876
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: It's possible, it's it's tough, it's and you need a

877
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: lot of help. The key game for them, I think,

878
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: and and I watched it closely at the time, was

879
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: that loss in Miami. That was that was really the

880
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: loss in Washington. But this one was especially late in

881
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: the season against an a f C power, and they

882
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: move not an avancy power but another contender, and and

883
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: they blew it. They lost too many of those games

884
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 1: at the last second. We don't think there's anyway Oakland

885
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: wins this game and forces me to eat. I changed

886
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: my mind. I am still a little concerned they're a joke.

887
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: Give me a break, but that could turn into a

888
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: meaningless game. Well it could, but I don't. I think

889
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: it's you never want to say a team gave up

890
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: or gives up. And I don't know if it was

891
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: effort or coaching or what it was last week, but

892
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: that was the most embarrassing performance by any defense all year,

893
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: the Raiders against Chiefs. It was it was pathetic. It

894
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: was just we shouldn't give Alex Smith too much credit

895
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: for that game because he was just dropping it off

896
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: five feet away from him and then people running seventy

897
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: yards down the field. Here's one of the games I'm

898
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: most excited about this week. The Chicago Bears are heading

899
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia to play an Eagles team that got humbled

900
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. That was a pretty bad defensive performance as well,

901
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 1: and now these two teams are facing off with huge

902
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: playoff ramifications on both ends. Greg, how do you see this?

903
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,959
Speaker 1: I like the Eagles. This was definitely the hardest game

904
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: of the week to pick. Uh. Both defenses have major problems.

905
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: I think Nick Foles has played his two worst games

906
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: of the year other than the game he was hurt

907
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: in the last two weeks. I know he put up

908
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: numbers last week, but he did not look good at

909
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: the lack of arm strength showed up. But ultimately I

910
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: kind of like Shady McCoy just running through that Bears defense,

911
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: and I think they're built to win a forty to

912
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: forty five game. It should be a lot of fun.

913
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: Though it's one of the games of the year in

914
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: terms of another one, I'm just saying it could be.

915
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: Just in terms of pure fun, it's not great saying.

916
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: He was just saying it's a game that's happening this year.

917
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: That's right, that's true. That's technically correct. You know, down

918
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: on the news when we were talking about they said,

919
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: someone from network came over and said, who's going to

920
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: have the game of the week, and we immediately I thought,

921
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: in my mind, Lashawn McCoy. It was my original thought,

922
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: and then I said it and Dan hop scotched on that.

923
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: But I said he would have two hundred and eighty

924
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: yards rushing, which was incorrect because exact on a limb here, No, not,

925
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: I think that's this is like, this is a pedestrian

926
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: dig against this. This is like when our fantasy crew

927
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: was like, I know you might be thinking otherwise, but

928
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: you should start Peyton Manning this week. Again, we're not

929
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: saying that something that's some edgy prediction, but it is

930
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: the right call. He's gonna blow up way back. He

931
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: is back, he's expected to be back. They won't. We

932
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: won't know officially until Sunday, but it's sure, it's sure.

933
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: Sounds difference maker right. They went on a streak of

934
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: tieder record with six straight one yard rushing games allowed

935
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: when Briggs went out, and Gregg's made this point a

936
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: couple of times. Cutler's injury wasn't nearly as harmful to

937
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: the Bears as Lance briggs injury. Not when you got

938
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: a quarterback that comes in and plays better than you're

939
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. But the linebackers on that team have been

940
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 1: a disaster. Two of the top five offenses in the league.

941
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: I would say, which, which offense do you trust more?

942
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: At this time? I trust the Bears. That's why I

943
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: picked them. I think their personnel is stronger, and West

944
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: and I both took the Bears. This is one of

945
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: we we were pretty uniform and a lot of picks,

946
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: but this one uh West and I took the Bears,

947
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: Patra Rosenthal and Cecil took the Eagle. Who do you

948
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: trust more, Riley Cooper or el Shan Jeffrey? Well, what

949
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: are we talking about? Like as a human football? Oh?

950
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: As a guy you would go to a country concert with.

951
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: I think also and wins on every level, of course

952
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: he does, although with color in there. I I didn't

953
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: love how he treated those two receivers last true he

954
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: did did have only have eyes for Marshall for all

955
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: good portion of the game. And the one weird thing

956
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: to watch in this game is Trustman. Mark Trustman. The

957
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: Bears coach left open the possibility of resting their starters

958
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: in week sixteen, which sounds crazy and some crazy things

959
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: have to happen. If the Lions lose to the Giants

960
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: and the Packers beat the Steelers, two things we don't

961
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: think are going to happen, then the Bears really have

962
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: nothing to play for. And the fact that Trustman left

963
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: it open, he said, well, we'll see then maybe then

964
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: we'll make some decisions, makes me think he's thought about it.

965
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: There's an outside chance There's also an outside chance the

966
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: Eagles won't have anything to play for, or a good

967
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: chance if the if the Cowboys went early. They say

968
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: they are playing their starters, so that's something to watch

969
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: for that. The Bears could wind up sitting guys, So

970
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: that's an outside chance, very small chance, and that scenario,

971
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: they would have nothing to play for because the Week

972
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: seventeen finale against the Packers would mean everything exactly. And

973
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: remember the league flexed out Ravens Patriots for this game. Yeah,

974
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: you know they're wishing, They're hoping that doesn't happen. It's

975
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: a small chance, but a chance. Let's wrap it up

976
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: with the Monday night game, the Atlanta Falcons heading to

977
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: San Francisco. I understand why ESPN was excited when they

978
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: got this game booked back back in the summer, But

979
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: now it doesn't look so good. Uh. The Atlanta Falcon stink.

980
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: As we know in the Niners are peaking as we expected,

981
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: West blowout City right, yes, no question, no question. If

982
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 1: Falcons are terrible. I was. I went back and watched

983
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: that game early this morning. Kirk Cousins was just dropping

984
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: bombs on that secondary, hitting Pierre Garson and stride I'll

985
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: I'll drop Robinson a few times. It was it was awful.

986
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: That secondary is just terrible going Berman on us there.

987
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: This is an argument for flexing Monday night football games.

988
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: M that could almost be done on week sixty. Maybe not,

989
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: It's would be logistically difficult. Maybe the last one of

990
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: the year. That was Growing up, I always found the

991
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: last Monday night season game depressing because it was the

992
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: end of night football essentially, you know that week to

993
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: week by rhythm. But when you get a game like this,

994
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: I may not even be there that I'll watch it

995
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: on game rewind, but I might find something better to

996
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 1: do that night. The last game in Candlestick Park history,

997
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: I guess. I guess that's reason to watch lest I

998
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: could just drive up to Is John Grew going to

999
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: do any research for this game or is he just

1000
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: gonna spend the week hanging out in San Francisco, one

1001
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: of the great American cities on a public podcast, I'm

1002
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,959
Speaker 1: going to say that I think he's gonna work very hard,

1003
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: and I don't even know what. Why would he not

1004
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: do any research? I don't know, because why should do

1005
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: he storiously do no research for? You know, I don't

1006
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: know anything about the man Kaepernick looking good lately just

1007
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: drop and is looking good. And I just want to

1008
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: say about the Falcons. They were one of my favorite

1009
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 1: teams to watch when they had Juleio Jones. Now they're

1010
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: painful to watch. There how Mark feels about the Bengals. Yeah,

1011
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 1: plus there you put them in a dome. Yeah, it's

1012
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: hebbly painful. They're indeed. I can't say anything good about

1013
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: that team. All right, So that's it. We will be

1014
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: back on Sunday going over all of these games. And

1015
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: you know tonight you guys are gonna be at my

1016
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: Christmas party, so get excited. Hopefully no more apologies come

1017
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: out of that one. Now we're gonna do this one right, Okay,

1018
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: until Sunday. This is Dan Hansis signing off for the Mailman,

1019
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: the Sizzler, the Boss, Kevin Patrick coming at you, and

1020
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: the gold Standard behind the Glass until Sunday