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Speaker 1: entrepreneur Dusty Baker. Good morning, how you doing, Hey, Dustin.

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Speaker 1: Had to get it all out, man, I had to

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Speaker 1: because I'm not apology to Chicago law that Mercy followed

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Speaker 1: your Chicago Cubs followed you to the Dollar Show. I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry I brought it up. I'm sorry I brought it up.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry brought it because you know from you learn

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Speaker 1: from it. You learn from because as an African America,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm rooting for you, brother, I root for

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Speaker 1: black box. I root for black managers, okay, and black

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Speaker 1: head coaches. Brother, I'll just let you know because I

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Speaker 1: know the opportunity to achieve to get that job as unique,

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Speaker 1: and to achieve the highest level of success is even

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Speaker 1: more unique. And so but I love the fact that

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Speaker 1: usaid Richard, I'm not gonna just sit at home and

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Speaker 1: wait for my next job. I'm gonna make my opportunities

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Speaker 1: now before we get off the family wines, how can

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Speaker 1: we before we go back to Baker, how can we

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Speaker 1: how can we purchase gain access to these great wine

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Speaker 1: because I gotta get something from my wife. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: just let you know right now. You sound like yourself.

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Speaker 1: That's stump to some man. You know, sometimes you do

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Speaker 1: things like you you're you're it's a foolish That was

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Speaker 1: a foolish move because because like you said, saying, man,

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a trophy case. I didn't know that.

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Speaker 1: And I'm telling that boot man was was a life

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Speaker 1: size boot and it was three quarters up there, and

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Speaker 1: for some reason in my stupid mind, I went, well,

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Speaker 1: this is worthless. I just threw him away. And she

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Speaker 1: came home and she saw that boot empty. She go, Okay,

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Speaker 1: where are my corks at? I go? Huh? I said, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, baby, I felt it was just uh, I

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Speaker 1: just threw him away. Man, she didn't, she didn't say nothing.

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Speaker 1: She's walked out of the ruin. They so listen, you could, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you could. You can go online or you know, Baker

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Speaker 1: Family Wines dot com, or you can email, uh you know,

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Speaker 1: the office and be n B like b A N

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Speaker 1: D B Wine Company at gmail dot com. And uh,

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Speaker 1: you know that will happen today. Okay, I'm not surprising

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Speaker 1: because of the fact she's a big fan of you

461
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Speaker 1: and so happy that you're now managing the Asteroids and

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Speaker 1: those one season only but man, the fact that you're there.

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Speaker 1: But more importantly, it's pretty happy to you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. I'm you know, the Lord did this because

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Speaker 1: there's no way that I was going in here to

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Speaker 1: go a great team like this and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: uh the only thing this and in my baseball career

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Speaker 1: is a championship, which I thought my career was over

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Speaker 1: because you know now that you know, there's always been

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, a certain amount of racial discrimination,

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Speaker 1: but now there's now there's age and salary discrimination and

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Speaker 1: intellectual discrimination where everybody want to know what college you

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Speaker 1: went to, you know, regardless of how much knowledge or

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Speaker 1: how much experience that you have. So this is, this

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Speaker 1: gives me an opportunity to try to win a couple

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Speaker 1: of championships. I need a hundred and thirty seven victories,

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Speaker 1: you know, to be uh, you know, first African American

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Speaker 1: to win two thousand twelve people. So, um, you know

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Speaker 1: this is this is kind of a legacy of God.

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Speaker 1: Said said, yeah, and and and it's a great town.

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Speaker 1: You know, like you said, I've been going to Houston

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Speaker 1: forever and ever. And uh, you know, my best friend

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Speaker 1: Ralph Guard the one we mentioned earlier, he's the one

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Speaker 1: that that you know that's that's in Houston, he said, Baker,

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Speaker 1: I was praying for you to get that job and

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Speaker 1: speedy rap that third base. Brother. It was all over

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Speaker 1: the thing right there. You know, it's really it's really great.

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Speaker 1: Let I'll be remissing if I got to bring up

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Speaker 1: this last business. Okay, Well, you know your you's a

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Speaker 1: chairman along with my man, uh Robert cool Bell. If

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Speaker 1: you don't know Robert Coolbell, that's from Cool in the

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Speaker 1: game cool Down and uh and cool Baker Global tell

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Speaker 1: us about that and uh and how that how did

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Speaker 1: that relationship come about? Well, you know, like I went

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Speaker 1: to Africa about ten or twelve years ago with you know,

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Speaker 1: with uh some baseball delegates and also uh you know

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Speaker 1: professor Delaware State as her own and uh you know

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Speaker 1: as I started it, uh you know Dave Winfield, when

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Speaker 1: Reggie Smith, o'marmonia, Wendy Lewis Ambassador Bridgewater was there and

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Speaker 1: a brother George and Tim from Ghana. So we all

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Speaker 1: went to Ghana and uh you know we came back.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know, we came back like you know, knowing

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Speaker 1: that how much people are in need in Africa and

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Speaker 1: how you know, how we're falling behind, especially in the

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Speaker 1: energy field. So I got a call about this is

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Speaker 1: ten years later, I get a call from from from

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Speaker 1: Cool Cool, Uh you know Robert cool Bell Cool in

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Speaker 1: the King. So I said, hey man, he goes, I said,

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Speaker 1: how I know this is Cool in the gang and

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Speaker 1: he goes, well, Kim Griffy Senor is my cousin. So

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Speaker 1: he started singing so fresh and so fresh. I figured

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Speaker 1: out that that that it was really him. And so

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Speaker 1: then so we started talking. And my daughter, who does

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Speaker 1: all my labels, she did the Baker Family wine label,

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Speaker 1: and she did the Cool Baker Global uh uh logo.

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Speaker 1: And so he's traveled extensively through Africa and performed extensively

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Speaker 1: and so uh through Ezra and Cool you know, we

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Speaker 1: went to Delaware State, uh you know, visited them the

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Speaker 1: African Peer Review Mechanism. Uh you know, we met a

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Speaker 1: bunch of African dignitaries, and so we're trying to take

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Speaker 1: uh you know, some energy to Africa in the forms

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Speaker 1: of solar or co jin or a combination of of

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Speaker 1: of ways. And because they don't have lights, you know,

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Speaker 1: and if you don't have lights, how do you kids study?

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Speaker 1: How do they? I mean, they don't have hardly nothing,

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Speaker 1: and so uh you know in that in the you know,

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Speaker 1: they're currently thirty eight of fifty five nations in Africa

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Speaker 1: are in the eight p r M and uh so

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Speaker 1: this is what we're trying to do, even install some

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Speaker 1: you know, because the coronavirus you know, I mean people

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Speaker 1: aren't allowed to go. But Cool it's really really hooked

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Speaker 1: up there. And so, uh, you know, his combination of

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Speaker 1: people that you know and that you don't know in

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Speaker 1: Africa already and and us being in the you know,

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Speaker 1: the energy business. You can't do it by ourselves. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we need some help, you know, which is teak tough.

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, teamwork, which is tough to find. And

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Speaker 1: uh and uh. But you know, if there's a will,

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00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: there's a way, and we're gonna find, you know, find

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Speaker 1: a way to do it. I'll tell you. I'm on

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Speaker 1: the website right now, Baker Family Wines website. I wanted

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Speaker 1: right now, you know, alright, I'm going from the dugout

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00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: to the vineyard. That's what I'm saying. Right guy, don't

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Speaker 1: down see the team with the cool glasses on in

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Speaker 1: the venue. You're saying. You know, I'm looking at you

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Speaker 1: got the sun glasses all? You know? They did you that?

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Speaker 1: The turn dark when you walk out in the sunlight.

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Speaker 1: I know what you are. I know what I can't see.

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00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: I can't see that, but that's that's what your trademark.

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00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: And you walked down the street without those glasses. So

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Speaker 1: who that dude? Who's that dude? Exactly the other day

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Speaker 1: somebody has hey words your toothpicks. I don't know. My mother, Well,

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Speaker 1: I got the email addressed the gmail I see all

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Speaker 1: listeners is our wines. You will be getting the email

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Speaker 1: for me today. I'm gonna see see my wife, so

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Speaker 1: you know I love her. But more importantly, Dustin, I

557
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: want you to bring you on the show man to

558
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: say thank you for being you, but more importantly tell

559
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Speaker 1: your story a little bit outside of the baseball world.

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00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: A lot of people New Zealand, Canada, you know, Ireland,

561
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: they listen to my podcast and my talk shows. You

562
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: say why, I say wow too, because I don't know

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Speaker 1: who listened to New Zealand, but they're listening at that

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00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: time down there in Australia, and it's it's that worldwide

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Speaker 1: effect that I wanted when I when I stop managing

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Speaker 1: Steve Harvey, just like you said, your legacy is important

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Speaker 1: and my they can see if when man with some

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Speaker 1: bad boys, I was looking at you. Think about it.

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Speaker 1: The thing I'm really impressed with. I mean, I was

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Speaker 1: pretty good at man. I didn't. I didn't like it

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Speaker 1: because I couldn't be s he got. You gotta be

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Speaker 1: exact for for man to be a math major who

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Speaker 1: I got? I got mad respect for you. Man, How

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Speaker 1: did you get to do that? I mean, did you

575
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: like it that much? You know? I'm gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: something It was like I avoided it all my life.

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00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: You know, I could always go back to high school

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Speaker 1: and my and my math teacher told me I was

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Speaker 1: good at it. But I went to school. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to be anything else that can give me an easy grade. Okay,

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00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: that was what That's why I was anything that can

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Speaker 1: give me easy and I struggled. It took me seven

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Speaker 1: years to graduate, but only three years once I got

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Speaker 1: my act together. You know. It was it was four

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Speaker 1: years of trying to get get by easy, trying to

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Speaker 1: get the easy course, to talk to my friends. Hey

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00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: mean that's an easy grade over there, goal, easy grade

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Speaker 1: over there. And then I realized, you know something, be

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Speaker 1: who people would expect you to be. And I'm math man.

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00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: I went in there. Man. I couldn't afford math books,

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00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: calculus book and I would walk in that room, Dusty.

592
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: I would look at the board, walk out cal one,

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Speaker 1: Caw two, Carl three, without a math book, and every

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Speaker 1: guy that was alb to geomic, I said, Mama, please,

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Speaker 1: that's enough. Well you know some brother, I want to

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Speaker 1: thank you. I want to appreciate you for saying who

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Speaker 1: you are and being in Houston. Boy, yeah my country,

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Speaker 1: not we're gonna when this pandemic ends, and when you

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Speaker 1: come down to Atlanta. I got I got a little

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Speaker 1: small fishing leg back behind me. Walking is right on

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Speaker 1: my top. You know. I like to fish. You know

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Speaker 1: something you can find me. I go down to busy

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Speaker 1: bee pick ups of food every day. I mean I've

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Speaker 1: been going there to the busy be meant to the

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Speaker 1: busy be huh down the busy Oh yeah, I go

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Speaker 1: down to the busy bee every day, me and Ralph,

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Speaker 1: I said so nineteen sixty eight, sixty nine. Absolutely absolutely

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Speaker 1: all right, I'll be there man, al right, be safe now.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Thank you, thank you. I only have

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