1 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to forties and free Agents. I'm Greg Rosenthal. I 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: am joined by my friend Daniel Jeremiah. We are getting 3 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: to the end of our previews of the season where 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: we go through each division and pick the biggest additions 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: in terms of veterans and rookies throughout the league. And look, 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: we got lucky here DJ. We're doing the NFC East 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: today and we're taping on the very same morning morning 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: that Terry McLaurin got a big contract extension with the 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders, So I feel like we might as well 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: just start there. This is one of those holdouts like 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: you expected to get done eventually, but also I feel 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: much better about the Commanders knowing he will be fully 13 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: ready for a week one. 14 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was interesting. 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 3: I saw that news come down and I wanted to 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: kind of refresh myself on Terry. Obviously there's been a 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: great player. He's been fun to watch. And we hit 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: this on Move the six with Buck. I kind of 19 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: went through and just watch all his explosive plays. I 20 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: was curious like his usage, like how they were doing it, 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: Where were those big plays coming from? And it was 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 3: you know, seven of those were vertical balls, like just 23 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 3: straight go balls. You had four on scrambles, which you 24 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: could understand having an athletic quarterback. You had three on overs, 25 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: So the vast majority of them were on takeoffs, verticals 26 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: down the field. You know, not a lot of quick kiters. 27 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: He had two on slants. Then you get mixed in 28 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: and in, you mix in you know, a corner, You 29 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 3: mix in a couple comebacks. But it wasn't there was 30 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 3: no like wide receiver screen run after catch. You know, 31 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: you had those two slants, but there wasn't a lot 32 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 3: of just you know, him just taking a short ball 33 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 3: and then making something explosive or dynamic happen, which took 34 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 3: me down a rabbit trail of just okay, who is 35 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: run who is a run after catch guy in this offense? 36 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: So you go back through and pull the numbers from 37 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: last year. Eckler led the team of four hundred and 38 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: twenty something yards. Zakias, who now has been doing a 39 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,639 Speaker 3: great job with the Bears, he's exited. He was second, 40 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: and then McLaurin was after that. So I'm like, okay, well, 41 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: this doesn't seem like a lot of yards after catch. 42 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: Where were they in the league. 43 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 3: They're sixteenth in yards after catch. I know preseasons a liar. 44 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: I talk about it all the time, Greg, but they're 45 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: twenty sixth then yards after catching the preseason. So it 46 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: informed the decision to me of why they went and 47 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: got Deebo Samuel, because they're trying to find somebody to 48 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: compliment what they have in Terry. My whole point of 49 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: all of this is it's pretty incredible. This team was 50 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 3: in the NFC Championship Game last year with an offensive line. 51 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: I think we'd all agree that was so so. 52 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: Terry's is a great player, but he was not surrounded 53 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: by a complete receiver group Like this isn't even a 54 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: well formed team and they were in the NFC Championship 55 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: Game last year. 56 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes it very difficult. And we're going to 57 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: get to a lot of commanders here, Debo. You know 58 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: that's my first veteran, so we will just like combine 59 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: the discussion here. The contract was, you know, three years 60 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: on the extension with a thirty million dollars signing bonus. 61 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: It's up to ninety six million, but that's that's tacking 62 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: on the year either way. He's going to be nicely 63 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: in that region somewhere between a justin Jefferson and maybe 64 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: a DK Metcalf, and I think he deserves it. And 65 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: you think about his year last year and fantasy like 66 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: it was great because he suddenly scores thirteen touchdowns, but 67 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: in terms of volume, I think people would be surprised. 68 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: He actually got fewer targets than he used to get 69 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: when Jaden Daniels wasn't there, and he just had more efficiency, 70 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: like more yards per target. And he's just one of 71 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: those receivers if you know, you know, I did not 72 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: see any decline out of him, even though you know 73 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: he's getting older. He's hitting his age thirty season later 74 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: this year, and you do worry about that a little. 75 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: But his contested catch rate DJ that is one of those, 76 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, skill sets that you look for, I'm sure, 77 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: but it's really hard to repeat at the NFL level 78 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: year after year. If you look at the numbers, you 79 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: could make the argument that Terry McLaurin is the best 80 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: contested catch guy, or certainly one of them, of his 81 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: entire generation, year after year playing with not so great quarterbacks. 82 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: If you look at the numbers in his contested get 83 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: he's just he's just a great plucker of the football. 84 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: And I don't see why that can't come continue, and 85 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: you're right that Deebo ends up being a very nice 86 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: compliment to him. With that. 87 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: The last point on that, and again we mentioned this 88 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: a little bit. I'm with the sticks, but this is 89 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: it's ironic that you had mentioned that is his greatest strength. 90 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 3: He goes to Ohio State on a camp and he 91 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: wants to get an offer from Ohio State. That's kind 92 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 3: of his dream school. He goes there, doesn't catch the 93 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: ball that great, and he's a little bit of a 94 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: body catcher, so they told him, look, you got to 95 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 3: improve your hands if you want to get an offer. 96 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 3: He catches two hundred balls a day, a lot of 97 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: those from his mom just throwing in balls in the 98 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 3: family room, but he catches two hundred balls a day, 99 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: every single day until he goes back to the camp. 100 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: The next time catches the ball flawlessly, they offer him 101 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: a scholarship and off he goes. But that was just 102 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 3: a little glimpse into kind of the work ethic and 103 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: all that he put into that. And now you look 104 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 3: at him as one of the best catchers of the 105 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 3: football in the NFL. 106 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: And it's a great sign for the Commanders who you know, 107 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: obviously have not been a great organization before the ownership 108 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: change of rewarding mister Washington over the last six years, 109 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: So feel great about that. Deebo, to me, is just 110 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: such an X factor. He's so up and down DJ 111 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: in terms of his explosiveness, his health. I don't know 112 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: if it's motivation, but maybe I would say the coaching 113 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: staff in San Francisco being happy with him, like it 114 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: just it was up and down. When he's great, he's great, 115 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: he's a unique skill set, but they really need him 116 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: to work. It's ultimately a one year deal that they 117 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: brought him in on if you look at how the 118 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: contract is structured. They traded for him, of course, but 119 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: only had to give up a late round pick. And 120 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: to me, he is the ultimate X factor for this 121 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: team because yet you don't have Diami Brown, you don't 122 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: have Zakiyas. They're going to miss those guys, and they 123 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: have Noah Brown as their next guy who hasn't been healthy. 124 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: So these two really have to carry this passing game 125 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: as a whole. I think from what we've heard he 126 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: could do it, But I also I'm not feeling like 127 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: amazing about it just because he's been up and down. 128 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: He really hasn't been that guy that we saw back 129 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. 130 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: Too often, with a quarterback like they have in Jaydon Daniels, 131 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 3: there should be massive yards after the catch, just because 132 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: he's going to draw so many eyes and so much 133 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 3: tension that you should have opportunities to have fewer numbers 134 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 3: in the back end because you have to dedicate bodies 135 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: to deal with what. 136 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: He can do with his legs. 137 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 3: So I'm hoping that he emerges is that guy, or 138 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 3: that he can still be that guy, because at one 139 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: point in time, there is nobody better in the NFL 140 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 3: with the ball in their hands than Deebo Samuel. 141 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: So excited to see what that looks like. 142 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 3: I'll get to one of my rookies here, Bill, the 143 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 3: man affectionately known as Bill Krossky Merritt, who I took 144 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 3: in I did my I only do one NFL Fantasy 145 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: League targeted him early, took him early, however, I think 146 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 3: I took him in the six fifth or sixth round. 147 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 3: Got some I know, but I like I always take 148 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: young guys a little earlyer than I have to. I 149 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 3: load up on young guys because it's kind of fun 150 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 3: for me to just keep an eye on the guys. 151 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: I just spend all this time talking about it in 152 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: the run up to the draft. So but I'm a 153 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 3: believer in him. I know I'm talking to people in 154 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: that organization. They're very excited about him and what he 155 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 3: can bring to the table. To go back through and 156 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 3: pull up my notes on him, let's go here. 157 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: I get this segment. Spot. This is everyone's face. Yeah, 158 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: the notes, the notes going up, the notes. 159 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 2: Where are they? 160 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: He? Oh? 161 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 2: Here, he is right here. 162 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: So he was. 163 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: He was five ten and a quarter two hundred and 164 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 3: six pounds. He ran four four five. As a runner, 165 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: someone who really can press the hole. He lowers pads, 166 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: he'll spin off tackles. He runs really hard, there's a 167 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,119 Speaker 3: little bit of tightness there, but catches the ball well. 168 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 3: He's really good in the screen game. Needs to work 169 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: on pass pro now. He was hurt, missed most of 170 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 3: the season there at Arizona. He was a transfer, but 171 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: he popped on the scene when you go watch him 172 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 3: at the East West Shrine Bowl. 173 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: So the practice is there. 174 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: He had an outstanding week and that's kind of what 175 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: what got him back on the map. It tested really, 176 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: really well, so I think they've got someone who's I 177 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 3: think to me personally, already the most talented runner on 178 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: their roster. So we'll see how long it takes before 179 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: he takes over the lion's share of the carries. 180 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: And now DJ won't like me doing this, but you know, 181 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: when you have commander's takes, I always just listen a 182 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: little closer because I know I know who you talk to. 183 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: You've talked about it, you know Adam Peter as well, 184 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: who runs it. So if you're saying, if you're getting 185 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: confident enough that you're taking to Corey Kross early fifth 186 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: or sixth round, I feel good about that because it 187 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: feels feels like a little bit of a reach. I 188 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: think Austin Eckler is going to have a role, Jeremy 189 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: McNichols will have a role, and so you're comparing, you know, 190 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: the guys you could take at that round in fantasy drafts. 191 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: But in reality, he's one of the best stories I 192 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: think of all of training camp. It's what paying attention 193 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: to training camp to me is all about, is guys 194 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: like him elevating. And now they didn't even need Brian 195 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: Robinson on this team. 196 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Brian Robinson exits, So that's my first one, and 197 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 3: I know we do five in a wildcard. 198 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: Yes, this in the NFC East. 199 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna fudge a little bit because I just 200 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 3: have six guys and I felt like all six of 201 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 3: them belong in there. I don't think one of them 202 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: belongs in the wildcard. So you can designate whoever the 203 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: heck you want is a wildcard. But I've got six 204 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 3: names here. 205 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: What do you is another commander here or no? You're 206 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: just giving it? Oh? 207 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: What noy? You want me? 208 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: You want? 209 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 2: I thought you were up trying to. 210 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: Be fair commander, but you just threw out the wildcard thing. Yeah, 211 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: so let's be real. The Commander's made the biggest moves 212 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: this offseason in the division. Laramie Tunzel is such a 213 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: fascinating player, been traded twice for massive hauls like there 214 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: are very few players in the last twenty years that 215 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: that can be said about. Khalil Mack is the only 216 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: other one that really comes to mind. And Tunsil still 217 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: got a lot in this iteration coming from Houston, where 218 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: it was interesting to me that they were ready to 219 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: give up on him. I don't know if they thought 220 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: he was as consistent in the running game, but he's 221 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: one of the best pass protectors of his generation and 222 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: he is going to help out this offensive line. So 223 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: Washington really pushed their chips in the middle of the 224 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: table with Laramie Tunzell to make sure that they didn't 225 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: slide this year. And then they have a good rookie 226 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: last year, Brandon Coleman who played left tackle for them, 227 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: who's been hurt in camp, but is going to slide 228 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: inside to guard. So you're hoping that you're improving two 229 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: positions there for the command. And Tunsil is just so talented. 230 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: You can tell me how you looked at him way 231 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: back in the day. 232 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: Of course, was my number one player in that draft. 233 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy. It is there is There has been 234 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: something about Tunsil over the years. It felt unfair that 235 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: he fell that far in that draft considering what was 236 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: going on and. 237 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: Try being live on the air when that's going down 238 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: and trying to trying to choose your words carefully. 239 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Crazy for our younger listeners. There was a video 240 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: that came out with him using a like a gas mask, 241 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: like a gas mask, water bomb and like a. 242 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 2: Gas mask filled with smoke. 243 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: Hey, look, it's illegal now, so I think it's okay 244 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: to time now. 245 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: It wouldn't have been anything, but that someone that. 246 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: Is feel like I'm relatively familiar with the game, Like 247 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: I was like, what is that? You know? 248 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 3: As someone who is zero familiarity with the game, I 249 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 3: had no idea what was going on, and I'm tasked 250 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: with being on national television and figuring out who's going 251 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: to take this guy and how far does he fall? 252 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: How serious is this who leaked this information? How did 253 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 3: it get out there the day like while the draft 254 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 3: is going. It was wild, but I am a huge 255 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: believer in his ability. But he did just get two 256 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: false starts while you were talking. So that's the only 257 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: thing that I'm worried about. We kind of clean up 258 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: the penalties. 259 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: Yet in Houston, it just speaks to my larger commander's point, 260 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: and I'm going to throw out my third commander because 261 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: to me, they did have three of the biggest signings. 262 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,479 Speaker 1: The Eagles basically sat out free agency, so they're not getting. 263 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,599 Speaker 3: Weeah, We'll go ahead jump into it, because that's the 264 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: only commander that I have was Merrit. 265 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: It's von Miller and von Miller and Tunzel to me, 266 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: almost occupy a similar space. I would even throw in 267 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: Javon Kinlaw, who they gave a lot of money to. 268 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: I just look at this team in terms of their 269 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: veteran just a little boom or bust, very high ceilings 270 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: and a lot of uncertainty. I feel good about Larrymy 271 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: Tunzel in the first year of his deal there. It's 272 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: not like he's ever been a bad NFL player. He's 273 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: always been a plus player. It's like, how plus plus 274 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: is he going to be Von Miller at this stage 275 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: of his career. He was a situational pass pressure for 276 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: the Bills. Was okay. Last year wasn't great. Kin Law 277 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: has been a little up and down. I know there's 278 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: some belief in them. I'm throwing a lot of guys 279 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: together and I just I look at that edge position, 280 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: I look at their offensive line in general. They're hoping 281 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: to get Sam Cosmi back eventually from a torn ACL. 282 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: It's just a boomer bust team to me. You could 283 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: tell me they end up being better this year in 284 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: terms of more stable. Maybe they don't get back to 285 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game, but they're better as a week 286 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: to week team, or that it goes wrong and they 287 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: take a little bit of a step back because I 288 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: think you're betting on a lot of different guys, and 289 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: I would throw Debo in there, Vaughan in there, and 290 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: Tunzel in there. That to me, high variance guys. 291 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. To me, I think they're you know, as a team. 292 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 3: I think their secondaries vastly improved from where it was 293 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. I like what they've done there, 294 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 3: and they've gotten more physical. They've got tougher there in 295 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 3: the back end. So I'm excited about that now. The 296 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: thing is going to be It's really only one question 297 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: with them is how they match up with the Philadelphia Eagles, 298 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: and then can they keep the Eagles from jam and 299 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 3: the ball down their throats when it matters. So they've 300 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 3: added kin Law, They've added some pieces there to help 301 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 3: try and keep that from happening. I don't know that 302 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: they're there yet. They still feel like to me, last 303 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: year was a year ahead of schedule. This year, wouldn't 304 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 3: be surprised if they took a little step back, and 305 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 3: I'm almost looking towards It's just I hate doing this 306 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 3: before a season even starts, But like, I'm more excited 307 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 3: about another offseason. I think they need another offseason to 308 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 3: kind of round out this roster and complete this roster. 309 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 2: You know. That's that's my take on them. 310 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the strategy this year for their front 311 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: office was partly to prevent that backslide by again filling 312 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: holes in free agency with guys who can play. They 313 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: brought back Bobby Wagner. But I'm with you in terms 314 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: of setting up the foundation. It reminds me a little 315 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: bit of the Buffalo Bills under McDermott and Brandon Bean, 316 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: who I think did as good a team building job 317 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: as anyone in the last decade. And if you remember 318 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: when they came aboard, they took a little bit of 319 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: a step back in year two before really establishing themselves 320 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: as year to year contenders in year three. 321 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 3: So to give you a look behind the scenes of 322 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 3: how this works on the personnel side, this is what happened. 323 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 3: When you take over a team that is drafted terribly. 324 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 3: You swap out a ton of the roster for guys 325 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: on one year deals. Now, the good news is you 326 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: might hit on some of those guys. The bad news 327 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 3: is once you hit on them, you still don't have 328 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 3: any control. So you can lose guys. You're trying to 329 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: resign guys. It's just not there's no foundation. It's what 330 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 3: I'm getting at. So they need three draft classes to 331 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 3: almost backfill because if you look at it, the players, 332 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 3: look at the just the first round picks before this 333 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: regime got there, the previous five years, it's gross. So 334 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: there there, it's it's a challenge there, and they're way 335 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: ahead of schedule last year. All right, I'll give you. 336 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: I'll give you two names here. I'm going to go 337 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: to the Dallas Cowboys for for my two guys next 338 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 3: up here. First one, because I'm not going to just 339 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: take the low hanging fruit. I'm going to go to 340 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: the fifth round. I'm going to go Jaden Blue, running 341 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 3: back out of Texas for the Dallas Cowboys, who was. 342 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: A favorite of mine. Greg. 343 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 3: While I read the report, maybe you can look it 344 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: up or Drew can get in your ear to figure 345 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 3: out what number pick he was in the draft. But 346 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: he was five to nine, one hundred and ninety six pounds, 347 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: ran a four to three eight. I thought he would 348 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: run even faster than that after the way he played. 349 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 3: But someone who is a little bit narrow but super 350 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: fast explosive in the past game you see him on 351 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 3: option routes, nobody could cover him, change a direction, make 352 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: miss out in space outstanding. Now he's not a physical, 353 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: violent runner pass protection. You're gonna much rather get him 354 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 3: out in the route than ask him to sit in 355 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 3: there and anchor down. There's just not a lot of 356 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: anchor there. But this is someone who is a total 357 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 3: mismatch player in the pass game. And when you have 358 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: Seeding Lamba on one side George Pickens on the other side, 359 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: if you can stretch the field out a little bit 360 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 3: and isolate him in the pass game or even in 361 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 3: this like the draw game, screen game, draw game, you know, 362 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 3: option route, angle route, like Jayden Blue is gonna you're 363 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: gonna see him on Sunday's making plays for the Dallas 364 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 3: Cowboys as a fifth round pick. 365 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's all about opportunity. I don't know if they 366 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: were looking at running back earlier in the draft and 367 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: just the guys they wanted kept going a little before 368 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: they were able to take him. But getting Blue in 369 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: the fifth round that was one. It set off alarms 370 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: and for fantasy football leaguers because the opportunity is there. 371 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: I think the starter is going to be Javonte Williams. 372 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: We'll see on cutdown day how they decide to construct 373 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: this room. Certainly Jayden Blue is going to be part 374 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: of it. I think had a really positive camp. He 375 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: did have an ankle injury they say lower ankle injury 376 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: in the last preseason game. Don't know if that's going 377 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: to prevent him from being ready for Week one. I'm 378 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: going to throw a curveball to you. I think film 379 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: Offa was an undrafted rookie in this class. Okay, can 380 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: you watch any tape on him, by the way, because 381 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: you know when I was out at Cowboys camp, he 382 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: popped a fifty yarder against the starters, had some bursts, 383 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: and then when I would watching in the preseason, I 384 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: don't even know if he's going to make the team 385 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: or not. I think he will, but I kind of 386 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: liked a little North South juice. 387 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: Phil MafA was a six foot and a half two 388 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: hundred and thirty four pounds six five big big big back. 389 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 3: He's big, He's more carry defenders than power through him. 390 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: He's a little bit rigid. He did have a nice 391 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 3: eighty three yard run against app State, which hurt a 392 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 3: little bit, but not big time change the direction, and 393 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 3: no real value as a pass catcher. So he's just 394 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: kind of a big a little bit of a plotter. 395 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 3: But someone who is a big, physical back, like an 396 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 3: old school four minute Steeler back, is how I would 397 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 3: kind of look at him. 398 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: Maybe, you know, the league maybe is getting back to 399 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: a point where he can use a few more of 400 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: those backs. Ali Gordon Miami's had a nice. 401 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey, don't spoil the AFC that's. 402 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: Coming up later in the week. I'm glad you mentioned. 403 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: That, So you got Can I give you my next 404 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 2: week the divisions? 405 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: You can, but I was just going to set it 406 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: up for the listener. We got two more divisions this 407 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: week and then early next week you can look forward 408 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: to us drafting who we think is going to win 409 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, back and forth, and that'll be kind 410 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: of the end of this preseason forties in Free agent's 411 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: mini run that we've been on. 412 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 3: This has been fun, by the way. The feedback has 413 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: been positive, surprisingly positive, and considered who I'm working with. 414 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 3: So that's been fun. Let's go to my next Dallas 415 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: cowboy here. I'm gonna go Donoviniza Raku edge rusher, who 416 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: when I went out there to training camp. I was 417 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 3: just out there for a day early on. I know 418 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 3: you're out there as well, Greg, but there seemed to 419 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: be a lot of enthusiasm about him. I liked him 420 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 3: as a player. I thought they got tremendous value with 421 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 3: where they ended up getting him. I'll pull up where 422 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 3: I had him. Yeah, he was a forty fourth pick 423 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: and he was my thirtieth overall player, so I thought 424 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 3: they got a first round pick where they were long arms. 425 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 3: He's got legit burst, tons of production and polish. You'll 426 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: see him win a lot of different ways, like he'll 427 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 3: do use a nice little club move, swim move inside counter. 428 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: You'll see him get guys on their heels and counter 429 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 3: across their face. Talking to the coaches at the Senior 430 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 3: Bowl who coached him there, absolutely loved him. 431 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: Thought he was a pros pro. That's always a. 432 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 3: Good sign if you want guys to have an immediate impact. 433 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 3: That's a phrase when you hear that this guy's professional, 434 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 3: he gets it like, Okay, he knows he's going to 435 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 3: learn everything. He's going to be diligent in studying and working. 436 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 3: He can get on the field and make an impact. 437 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: I love that By the way. I never informed you 438 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: Jade Blue is one hundred and forty ninth pick of 439 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: the draft. 440 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 3: Oh he Jayden Blue was one hundred and forty nine, 441 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: and I believe let me go back, I think he 442 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 3: was one to nine for the Jayden Blue was seven 443 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 3: the football. 444 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: In the preseason. 445 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 2: Seven I don't but one seven. I just to me, 446 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, good. 447 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: Signs and uh yeah, he's a DJ type of guy. 448 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: So is Azaku. I really liked him going into the draft. 449 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: I've heard the same things about him in camp now 450 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: the preseason he's been quieter and in the games tiny 451 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: sample size, we'll see, but the Dallas beat writers have 452 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: been saying, man, he is tearing up the practices and 453 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: it hadn't translated quite to the preseason where he did 454 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: get a lot of run. And I expect him to 455 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: be very good and he doesn't have to be the 456 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: man as long as they get Micah Parsons signed, and 457 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: if they do get Michael Parsons, ultimately I do think 458 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: will happen. In the end, they have potentially the deepest 459 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: edge group in the entire NFL. Dante Fowler has been 460 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: a productive sign him for one year and he's going 461 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: to get you eight to ten sacks type of guy. 462 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: He is there. Marshawn Neeland was a second round pick 463 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: a year ago. Maybe not not as pure a edge rush, right, 464 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: a good player. And then Sam Williams again to talk 465 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: about the day I was bowl. I mean, he's got 466 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: a lot of juice off the edge. And he actually 467 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: picked off Dak Prescott on a play he dropped in 468 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: the coverage. I would not expect what happened to off 469 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: him and took him for a pick six on the 470 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: day I was there. So that is an athletic, exciting 471 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: edge group, and I'm excited about this Cowboys defense. I 472 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: actually think it could be better than people think once 473 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: they get used to the eber flus of it all. 474 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: Once Trayvon Diggs is back on the field they activated 475 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: him recently. Because of the edge group, I actually think 476 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: I think they have a little more juice than people think. 477 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, excited about a lot of those individual players. It's 478 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 3: hard for me to get it out of my head. 479 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 3: The day I was there, I watched Jimmy Garoppolo carve 480 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 3: them up like a Thanksgiving turkey in the back end. 481 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 3: That was tough, and the Rams DeVante Adams still. Oh 482 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 3: my gosh, they had no answer on that one. 483 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: And you talked about being in the division, like the 484 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: Commanders are needing to stop the run against the Eagles. 485 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: I have major questions about the Commanders. They're even bigger 486 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: questions about the Cowboys. I don't know if they're going 487 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: to be able to stop the run with the personnel 488 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 1: that they have. Let's take a quick break and we'll 489 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: actually wrap up our Cowboys talk on the other side, 490 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: back on forties and free agents. Daniel Jeremiah is off 491 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: the road, no more getting back from the preseason game. 492 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you're going to get back on 493 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: the road for the regular season, but you have a 494 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: nice couple weeks here before you go to a. 495 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 3: Twelve hour flight coming up to Brazil. Bud like that's 496 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 3: at forty sevens old. That's a there's a lot of 497 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 3: hydration in preparation. I need to know Labor. 498 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: Day weekend, you get the Labor Day weekend. Maybe catch 499 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: a Padres game. You know something I need to get. 500 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about getting that money. Who does the play 501 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: by play has one of those fancy things where you 502 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: can kind of stick your arms in him and then 503 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 1: it has the little donut hole you can put your 504 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: head down to sleep like basically on the little trade table, 505 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: like you can sleep face. 506 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: Down like that. Thinking about making that investment, I don't 507 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: know if that's worth it or not. 508 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: Well you're not DJ's not business class. Well you're going 509 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: with the team, so that's interesting. 510 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeaheah, No, players get the players obviously taking care of there. 511 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: It's a bit of a catch twenty two there, going 512 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: with the team. But ultimately yeah, nice, yeah, skipping security, 513 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: it's amazing. Let's get back to the list. So we're 514 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: doing the biggest additions, and I thought George Pickens has 515 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: to be on this list because to me, he is 516 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: the missing piece of what this Cowboys offense was looking for, 517 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: just a little more skill position depth. They expect Jake 518 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: Ferguson to have a better year this year. They gave 519 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: him a nice contract at tight end, but Pickens brings 520 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: them some real juice and I think he occupies that 521 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: spot that Michael Gallup used to have. You can move 522 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: Cedee Lamb all around the formation, but you have Pickens 523 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: there as a ball winner on the outside. Not a 524 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: lot of guys like those guys are hard to find 525 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: and he's heading into a free agent year and he 526 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: is one of the most intriguing freedoms out there. I 527 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: think they're going to get the best effort. I don't 528 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: know if you heard anything about, you know, from the coaches, 529 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: just how they have enjoyed having Pickens with them during 530 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: training camp. 531 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: Everything I was told when I was out there talking 532 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 3: to guys was he's been good. You know, he's been 533 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:47,479 Speaker 3: bought in, he's fit in. There hasn't been really any issues. 534 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 3: Now we'll see once we get into the regular season 535 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 3: and maybe if the targets aren't there. If that, you know, 536 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 3: he gets frustrated as has been the case in the past. 537 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 3: But to me, this is a best behavior situation, Like 538 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 3: he's smart enough to know that he wants to get 539 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 3: a big paid and that comes with him being on 540 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 3: his best behavior, being bought in, body language, all that 541 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 3: stuff that he's been criticized for in the past. I 542 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 3: think you see the best of him this year. And 543 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 3: I think this is the first time he's had a 544 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 3: dude the caliber of Seeding Lamb on the opposite side 545 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 3: where he's going to not get any attention whatsoever from coverage. 546 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 2: I think he has a really good year. I'm excited 547 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 2: about him. 548 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: He's so talented. I remember going back and forth with 549 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: you when he was coming out. I had him second 550 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: and my receivers that year, and talent wise and really 551 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: competitiveness wise. It's not like he's lacking for effort. The 552 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: effort is there. So reminds me a lot of a 553 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: couple other Cowboys pickups over the years. At wide receiver. 554 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: They got the very best year possible out of Roy 555 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: Williams right from the Lions that first year and then 556 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: got the big contract. Same thing with terrell O and 557 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: George Pickens. Maybe not at the talent level, certainly of too. 558 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: Maybe Roy Williams is closer, closer to that. I think 559 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: they're going to get the best out of George Pickens 560 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: and maybe he gets a big contract. 561 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 3: Now people getting a peak behind our relationship, by the way, 562 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 3: which is great finding a really uber talented player that 563 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 3: might not be rated as high. And even though we've 564 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 3: been having these conversations for over a decade, he will 565 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 3: still not see the forests of the trees. He will 566 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 3: always call me and go, I mean, I am a 567 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 3: super scout. I'm the only one that sees that this 568 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 3: guy's really talented, how come he's so low? And I go, Greg, 569 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 3: you realize there's other parts of the evaluation other than 570 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 3: just what we see on the field, and it was 571 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,239 Speaker 3: I won't say who the player was, but there's one 572 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 3: this last year who's getting a lot of left to 573 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 3: the preseason, who's been outstanding. But yeah, everybody knows the 574 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 3: talent was there. If we're just grad enough, just that 575 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 3: it would have been easy. But there's other information you 576 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 3: take in and that can move guys down a little bit. 577 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 3: And sometimes those issues never materialize and the guy ends 578 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 3: up being a great player. Other times, two years, three 579 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 3: years down the road, you go, oh, I get I 580 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 3: guess I see now why he felt. 581 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: Okay, So if you're listening to forties and free agents, 582 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: guess who that player is in our mentions and. 583 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: Don't know you don't see it. You'll tell me off there. 584 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I'll tell the listener if they were right. 585 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: I know I'm not. I'm not really sure sure, but 586 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: I think what you haven't considered DJ is just that, 587 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: like I've got a special eye, you know. 588 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 2: That's right? 589 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: Right? 590 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: This guy from Georgia is pretty good. I mean, he's 591 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 2: pretty big in athletics. 592 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: You want today better than others. People don't like to 593 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: talk about that. Oh everyone's even some are better. You know, 594 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm not. You know, you got to where you are 595 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: for a reason. So maybe I've just got that special eye. 596 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: This guy, No, I like this super tall, fast guy 597 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: from Georgia, talented. 598 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: Looks pretty good. He's pretty good, Reckie. 599 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 3: All right, I'm going to go to the Philadelphia Eagles 600 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 3: only one I'm saving. By the way, if you're a 601 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: Giants fan, your one, and where are we? I think 602 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 3: the Giants have the two biggest guys in this whole process, 603 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 3: and I'm saving the best for last, so to speak. 604 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 3: So Philadelphia Eagles, I'm gonna go to the first round. 605 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,959 Speaker 3: You had Campbell and this is a classic case. Everybody. 606 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 3: I shouldn't say everybody, but some folks in the league 607 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 3: get mad at me every year at the draft because 608 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 3: they feel like I unfairly love up Howie Roseman it. 609 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 3: I say that they get the best value every year 610 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 3: in the draft, and I'm like, guys, I don't know 611 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 3: what you want me to do. I watched the players, 612 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 3: I ranked the players. I don't know who's going to 613 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 3: pick them or where they're going to go. But it 614 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 3: just so happens that every year the Eagles happened to 615 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 3: be picking towards the back of the first round and 616 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 3: they get one of my top twelve players. Like, it 617 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 3: didn't matter which team it was, I would have loved 618 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 3: them up. It's just a based off my opinion of 619 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: what I saw on the guys and Johan Campbell when 620 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 3: it came to my final list. He was my twelfth 621 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 3: overall player, my number one off the ball linebacker, and 622 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 3: they got him with what the thirty first pick? I 623 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 3: think maybe somewhere around there. Yeah, oh, thirty second. Well, 624 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 3: they'd had the thirty second pick. They went to the 625 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 3: Super Bowl, right, did they trade up one spot? 626 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 627 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 3: So six h two seven so almost six three, two 628 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 3: hundred and thirty five pounds. He ran four to five 629 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 3: to two, rangey, versatile, He was recruited as an edge rusher. 630 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: But then to get him on the field because they 631 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 3: had the two first rounders, you had Dallas Turner and 632 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 3: Will Anderson, Like, we got to get this guy on 633 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,239 Speaker 3: the field, so let's put him off the ball. So 634 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 3: he hasn't even spent that much time in that position, 635 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 3: but showed big time lateral range and burst. He can 636 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 3: playoff tackles. When he's an outstanding blitzer, he can bend 637 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 3: and finish. Just think of just a fast, fluid, loose 638 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 3: athlete who's you know, also has extremely high character and 639 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 3: all that stuff's great off the field. The funny story 640 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 3: was early in training camp talking to some folks in Philly, like, okay, 641 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 3: it wasn't he didn't pick it up just right away. 642 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 3: He wasn't, you know, excelling in off the ball linebacker position. 643 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 3: So they started cross training him a little bit because 644 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 3: he had been an edge rusher. So let's give him 645 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 3: some work after practice. Let's let him work on some 646 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 3: pass rush stuff if nothing else, like we could use 647 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 3: him in that capacity. And then all of a sudden, 648 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 3: the preseason games come around and he's just lighting it 649 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 3: up off the ball. He's making splash plays, he's seeing everything. 650 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 3: He's playing fast. And then they're like, yet, you don't 651 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 3: need to work after practice at edge rusher anymore. You 652 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 3: just go ahead and stay in there. And I got 653 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 3: and I was told he's actually kind of bums, Like no, 654 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 3: I want to I like rushing. I'm learning a lot, 655 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 3: Like yeah, sorry, you should have played worse. If you 656 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 3: wanted to play on the edge, you should have played worse. 657 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 3: Now you're locked in here as an off the ball guy. 658 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: That is great insight. Did not know any of that, 659 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: and you can kind of see it on the field 660 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: in the preseason. One of the stories of the preseason 661 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: we did the show with Mina Kymes where we talked 662 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: about our favorite players. That was her favorite player in 663 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: the draft. If we could have told you or Mina 664 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: you had them twelfth overall before the process, that he 665 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: would be ready to go day one of training camp, 666 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, maybe you even bump them up a 667 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: little higher. It's amazing what a quick recovery he had 668 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: and that it really sounds like he is going to 669 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: be a day one starter. And what a fun. 670 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: Copy about him and Zach Bond right. 671 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: Like that's exactly what you want kind of out of 672 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: these modern linebackers. Two guys who can rush. Maybe they're 673 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: not having them work extra because they're like, you're good enough, 674 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: we will blitz you sometimes, Like it's not like he's 675 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: not gonna rush the passer here and there, but that's 676 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: not his main job. 677 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 3: The interesting thing about the Eagles to me, like for 678 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: a team that just won a Super Bowl. You look 679 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 3: on this defense. Can you remember a team that won 680 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 3: a Super Bowl that's defense was this young? Like, look 681 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 3: at these guys like it's Jalen Carter's class of twenty three, 682 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 3: Nolan Smith class of twenty three, Nakobe Dean twenty two, 683 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 3: Jalx Hunt twenty four, you got Ringo and Sydney Brown 684 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 3: or twenty three guys. You've got Quinnyon and Cooper Dish 685 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 3: twenty the class of twenty four, Like their whole defense 686 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 3: is like first three year guys. 687 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: All right, I'll throw out my wildcard because it was 688 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: the Eagles. Like the wildcard to me is do they 689 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: get anything out of these edge rush kind of bargain 690 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: basement guys? They signed Azizo Jalari and Josh Uce being 691 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: two of the examples. You can't push forward in terms 692 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: of free agency spending big bucks. Every single year. They've 693 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: done as good, maybe better job than literally any team 694 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Re signing guys early, not get into 695 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: the problems that the Cowboys or the Bengals get into, 696 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: for instance, with their players. If anything, they get great 697 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: value signing them early. Guys like you know, Landon Dickerson 698 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: who would be worth who knows how much if you 699 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: got closer to free agency. But what that means is 700 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: you can't push in free agency every single year, and 701 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: so they kind of just, you know, nibbled around the edges. 702 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: They watched some really good players go and I'm just 703 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: curious if they can get anything out of Azizo, Zulari, 704 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: josh Uja. You could throw a Dori Jackson in there 705 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: at cornerback. Just these guys who are gone cheap veteran 706 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: contracts and you're hoping gives you some good production. Jackson 707 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: of those three is the guy who looks like he's 708 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: gonna play the most, might be their starter at cornerback. 709 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, when they rolled guys through a lot on the 710 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 3: edge last year because they had so many of them. Remember, 711 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 3: Huff couldn't even get on the field. So I think 712 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 3: they want to play guys I like in that group 713 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 3: of guys you just mentioned that Cluster to me, Uce 714 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 3: gives them another fastball that they can play with who 715 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 3: actually plays bigger than his size. I think he's a 716 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 3: good player, So I'm excited to see how they kind 717 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 3: of kind of meld him into this rotation because it's 718 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 3: going to look different with those guys who were kind 719 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 3: of into three four roles. Now in the won two roles. 720 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: So you said you saved the best for last. It's 721 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: the New York Giants. We've done that too. Like we're 722 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: ending this series big with NFC East AFC East this week. 723 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: Which Giant do you want to talk about first? 724 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna start their first over their first round 725 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 3: pick in Abdul Carter, who I think there's a chance 726 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 3: and I love cam Ward. I'm excited about cam Ward 727 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 3: and I think they've got their quarterback of the future. 728 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 3: But I will not be surprised if a month into 729 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 3: the season there's articles in Tennessee papers, if people still 730 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 3: do papers Tennessee and shout out the uh did we take? 731 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 3: We've taken Abdul Carter with the first overall pick. Like 732 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 3: this guy's wrecking shop right out the gate. 733 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: He's ready to go. 734 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 3: There's sometimes when you have preseasons a liar, I know, 735 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 3: but there's sometimes when you see a guy in an 736 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 3: NFL field, I don't care who you're playing against, and 737 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 3: you're like that guy moves different than everybody else on 738 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 3: the entire field. 739 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: Abdull Carter is an absolute freak show. 740 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 3: And he's on a he's joining a really talented front, 741 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 3: So I don't know how much attention they're going to 742 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 3: be able to dictate to him from the offensive side 743 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 3: of the ball. And oh, by the way, they're letting 744 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 3: him run on rush on guards in some of these 745 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 3: third down passing situations. 746 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 2: Good luck. 747 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, could not be more excited to watch him, Like 748 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: his first preseason action was just outrageous. Everyone watching the 749 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: practices there at Giants camp say it's just been unfair. 750 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: He just pops off the field. So I liked your 751 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: concept DJ with the articles possibly being written. First of all, yes, 752 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: newspapers still exists, so support local journalism. Yes online, yeah, 753 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: online as well. But I think it would have made 754 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: more sense if you went with Cleveland as the option. 755 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: Should we have just stayed there and taken Abdul Carter 756 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: because you got to take the quarterback, cameboards, you know, 757 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: you got to take the quarterback at one, But should 758 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: have Cleveland stayed there, you know, and made and. 759 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 3: Then dreaming on that dreaming on that front with him 760 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 3: and Miles Garrett opposite of each other. 761 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 2: Which which we a lot of us said throughout the whole. 762 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 3: Process, like that makes the most sense, like you're just 763 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 3: going to take him and then you're going to terrorize quarterbacks. 764 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: Or even Jacksonville. But uh, how dare anyone even suggests 765 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 1: that Travis Hunters not gonna I don't like this like 766 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: Travis Hunter. I wouldn't say fatigue, but I almost feel 767 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: like the expectations are too low mine or high. That's 768 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: totally neither here nor there. I'll give you a giant pickup. Yep, 769 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: that to me was important. I'm keep matching guys together. 770 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: Paulsa Dedebo is their cornerback one by far, and everyone's like, oh, yeah, 771 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: of course we added one of the best cornerbacks in Freedancy. 772 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: First of all, he lasted in Freezy like a little 773 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: longer than the top guys for a reason. He's coming 774 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: off of a serious injury, and anyone that tracked his 775 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: career in New Orleans knows like it was really up 776 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: and down. And actually last year he came out the gate. 777 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: I watched too many Saints games, not playing well at all, 778 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: not playing with much confidence before the injury. And he 779 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 1: was someone who a couple of years before was really 780 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: struggling and then had an incredible year A very physical player, 781 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,720 Speaker 1: interesting player. But I don't know why this is DJ. 782 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: But like, cornerback to me is the most up and 783 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 1: down position in the league, and he's a good example 784 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: of that. So they need him to be really good 785 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: because it's not a good cornerback position, so they at 786 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: least need to count on him. And I'm not sure 787 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: because to me, he's been very up and down in 788 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: his career. 789 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 3: Well, I think, you know, a lot depends on their 790 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 3: usage and you go from one team to the next 791 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 3: in terms of what they ask you, the scheme they're in, 792 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 3: how they want to play you. I mean you could, yeah, 793 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 3: just the simple the simple fact of a press corner 794 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 3: versus an off the ball corner, you know, a man corner' 795 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 3: zone corner. How do you play top down or are 796 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 3: you going to have to play with your back to 797 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 3: the quarterback down the field? Like, that's two totally different 798 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 3: skill sets required there, And some teams want you to 799 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 3: do a little bit of everything. Some teams major in 800 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 3: one or the other. So I think that's where you 801 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 3: see some of the volatility. I go back to, you know, 802 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 3: my personal example of the Eagles, Nom Diassomoah, you know, 803 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 3: is a press corner, big long, but a little bit tight. 804 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 3: And then he comes over to the Eagles and we 805 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 3: go out there for the first training camp practice and 806 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 3: he lines up against Deshan Jackson and he's ten yards 807 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 3: off the ball and I go, if I mean, all 808 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 3: of us kind of looks to you like, if we're 809 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 3: asking this guy to do this, we should not have 810 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 3: paid him that much money. And he got absolutely torched. 811 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 3: And so again, to me, usage is a lot of 812 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 3: the reason why you see some of that bollatioer. 813 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, though in a Debo's case, you know he was 814 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: with Dennis Allen there and you know it was it 815 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: was consistent. But that's my last guy. And I could 816 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: throw Javon Holland in there too, who I think is 817 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: another good example. He's more of a he's obviously a safety, 818 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: but more of a coverage guy and had a million 819 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: different defensive schemes there in Miami and sometimes look great. 820 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes they were kind of out on him. And so 821 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: they really need those two guys because I think that 822 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: secondary could prevent their defense from being really you're not. 823 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 2: Going to have to cover very long. That's the good news. 824 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: That would help. That would help, all right, Well. 825 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 3: Last one and this is could end up being the 826 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,479 Speaker 3: most impactful even after I just said that about Abdill Carter. 827 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 3: Is if the Giants got their quarterback in Jackson Dart, 828 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 3: he was awesome. He was awesome in the preseason. I'd 829 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 3: again I try and try and be reasonable about quarterbacks 830 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 3: in the preseason. I'm just looking for some basic benchmarks here. 831 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 3: I'm not going to get caught too caught up in 832 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 3: the box score good or bad, But i want to 833 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 3: see do you look does everything look comfortable? Does the 834 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 3: game look slow to you? Does it look like you're 835 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,479 Speaker 3: seeing the field? Are you comfortable working in the middle 836 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 3: of the field or is everything just underneath or outside 837 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 3: the numbers? Because you don't trust what you're seeing and 838 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,760 Speaker 3: what picture the defense has given you. Everything's been positive 839 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 3: with Jackson Dart. He looks very poised, he looks very comfortable. 840 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 3: I already know he's a great athlete. I don't, you know, 841 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 3: need to see him run around and make plays. I 842 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 3: know he's going to be able to do that stuff. 843 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 3: But this is a guy who looked like he was 844 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 3: seeing the picture very clearly, which is a great sign 845 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 3: for him. And the way I've phrased it when asked 846 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 3: about you know, when does he get into the lineup. 847 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 3: You know, their schedule is brutal. There's no easy entry 848 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 3: point there for him when you look at it. But 849 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 3: I just said, I do believe we will see more 850 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 3: of Jackson Dart than Russell Wilson this year. 851 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: No question. Completely agree with everything that you said. You say, 852 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: don't celebrate your wins in the preseason scouting wise, you 853 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,439 Speaker 1: know too early, So don't take the l's too early too. 854 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: But I had my doubts about Jackson Dart and I'm 855 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: not feeling like that's gonna be born out so far 856 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: because I totally agree. Like the offense was completely different. 857 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: They're building, They're going to build a different offense around him. 858 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: But man, he looked comfortable. And people who like to 859 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: point out, well it's the preseason, like look at what 860 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett did that year. First of all, Kenny Pickett, 861 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: that was his second year. But the number of dropbacks 862 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 1: that Dart had compared to how most quarterbacks get in 863 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: the preseason, he had like two and a half times, 864 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: for instance, that Picket preseason like he was out there 865 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 1: a lot. And I think everything you said was absolutely true. 866 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: And I thought that was the part of his game 867 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: that would take the longest in terms of the mental 868 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: side and the difference between the NFL and comfort and 869 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 1: it'll get harder in the regular season. But he was 870 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: really impressive and I am just going to be more 871 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: interested to watch them once he is their quarterback. So 872 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: I think I think Brian Dable agrees with me. 873 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. 874 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 3: That's Brian Dable agrees with you. Put that on your tombstone. 875 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: I mean, that would be a weird It would be 876 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: a weird pick. You know, do you realize everyone, you know, 877 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: my kids are sobbing and they're like, why, you know, 878 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: why did he only make it to one hundred and three, daddy? 879 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 1: And like why does it say Brian? Who is Brian Dable? 880 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: You know, my son would probably remember, but that it 881 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: seems like an odd thing to put there. 882 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 3: So here's how they open up at Washington at Dallas 883 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 3: home against the Chiefs home against the Chargers at New Orleans. Okay, 884 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 3: you could look at that one. But then after that 885 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 3: Philly at Denver, Philly again, San Francisco, Chicago, I mean, goodness, gracious, 886 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 3: Green Bay, Detroit, Okay, New England, Washington, Minnesota, Vegas, Dallas 887 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 3: like man Alive, Like that is just they caught it 888 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 3: on the wrong year in terms of breaking in a 889 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:43,720 Speaker 3: new quarterback. 890 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. I agree. But first 891 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: of all, the easiest stretch might be the start. Is 892 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 1: it would it be that crazy to start in week one? 893 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: They're not going to do it, they at least unless 894 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 1: Dable goes back as I don't think that'd be that 895 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: crazy because that's the in terms of the defense as 896 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: you're facing. And then a lot of people said this 897 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: to DJ about like Drake May, Oh, you can't put 898 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: him in his first start against the Texas. Oh, Like, 899 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,879 Speaker 1: what a horrible situation to set. It's like if the. 900 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 2: Guy is he's going to swim or he's going to sink. 901 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: He played pretty well in that game, and you know 902 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: he got good experience, and I just think you got 903 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: to put him out there at some point. But it 904 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: is a very difficult schedule. Our schedule this week is 905 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: u AFC East on Friday. I'm looking forward to that 906 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: coming out and then we wrap up this forties and 907 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 1: free agents run with a couple of seasons. 908 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 2: Are going to want to tune in. 909 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: Okay, that that is man we see we'll see you 910 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: then