1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 2: Appreciate all of. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: You hanging out with us as we are rolling into 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: yet another week with lots of good news pouring in. 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: There now seems to be expectation that, guess what, Trump 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: was right, they are going to cut interest rates in September. 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: Stock market is soaring on those expectations today, moving back 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: towards record high levels. So that is the big economic news. 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 1: As we move closer and closer to a terraff resolution 10 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: with many different countries around the world, also a bunch 11 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: of other things going on. We have got Texas redistricting 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: turning into a monster battle which I am going to 13 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: dive into here with you guys. 14 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: Shortly. Machetes have been banned in. 15 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: Australia, which is just aridiculously funny story we'll have some 16 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: fun with. And President Trump has weighed in on Sidney 17 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: Sweeney and the impact of that ad continues to echo 18 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: as also for those of you out there that get 19 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: fired up about culture and. 20 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: Don't care and you're like Sidney Sweeney. 21 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: Is registered as a Republican in Bucks state of Florida. 22 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: I challenge anybody out there, Buck We'll get into this 23 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: a little bit, but I can't think of anybody in 24 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: his or her twenties that is as famous in Hollywood 25 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: as Sidney Sweeney is that has ever been publicly identified 26 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: as a Republican. Now, there are lots of people, because 27 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of time in LA and what 28 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: you always hear in LA is if they never talk 29 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: about politics, they're a Republican. And there are lots of 30 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: those people out there, many of whom you would be 31 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: fans of if you enjoy going to movies, television shows, 32 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: streaming service is all those things. So there are lots 33 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: of them, they just don't speak out Sidney Sweeney being 34 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: a registered Republican in her twenties. Look, there are guys 35 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: like Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzeneger Mel Gibson, a lot of 36 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: the stars of nineteen eighties film are Republicans and are 37 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: out there publicly, but they're all in their seventies or older. 38 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: To have a twenty seven year old Hollywood starlet near 39 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: the top of her game being out and out Republican, 40 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: I think is significant culturally. We'll get into that, but 41 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: in the meantime, and this is actually very significant, I think, 42 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: and we talked about this a little bit last week. 43 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: There is a panic setting in inside of the Democrat 44 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: Party over the fact that Texas is potentially going to 45 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: be redistricting as part of its midterm sort of process. 46 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: This is normal in Texas because the legislature, I believe, 47 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: only comes in like every other year. They do not 48 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: have a supremely active legislature, and so they're a little 49 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: bit behind on some of these things. And by the way, 50 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: we'll also update you on the latest. I know many 51 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: of you fired up about that attack in Cincinnati, which 52 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: has received a great deal of discussion at Peers guy 53 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: and a gal, both innocent of doing basically anything wrong, 54 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: getting beaten up in Cincinnati, and the reaction to it. 55 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: We talked about that with Bernie Marino last week. But 56 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: I want to start with this. Democrats buck are saying 57 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: that they are going to flee the state to stop 58 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: this redistricting from taking place. This is something that I 59 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: think they have done before, and it's turned into a 60 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: controversy and Greg Abbott, governor of Texas, is having none 61 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: of it. He says they will face felony charges if 62 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: they refuse to return to the Capitol. 63 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: Here's cut ten. 64 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: So very simply, it would be bribery if any lawmaker 65 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: took money to perform or to refuse to perform and 66 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 3: act in the lets and the reports are these legislators 67 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: have been both. They sought money and they offered money 68 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: to skip the vote, to leave the legislature to take 69 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: a legislative act. That would be bribery. And so the 70 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 3: facts will have to come out. But I think based 71 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: upon comments made by legislators themselves, they face a possibility 72 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 3: facing bribery charges, which is a second degree felony in 73 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: the state of Texas. 74 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: Okay, I believe the reports are buck that they are 75 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: fleeing to Illinois. This has turned into a big deal, 76 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: not only in Texas, but other states now saying well, 77 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: maybe we'll have to redistrict your. 78 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 4: Thoughts Illinois also known as Midwest California. 79 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. 80 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: And by the way, to Illinois, one of the most 81 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: of all jerry mannered states in the nation, to flee 82 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: to Illinois. Actually just points out that blue states do 83 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: this too. 84 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 4: This is just childish whining from Democrats on this issue. 85 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 4: There's no argument to be made. It is actually not 86 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 4: possible to raise a good faith argument that Democrats don't 87 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 4: do exactly this, which is jerry mander to their political 88 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 4: liking in states where that is lawful and they have control. 89 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: So let's not pretend like this is all of us. 90 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 4: It would be like saying, oh, my gosh, do you 91 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 4: see all these people the president is appointing who agree 92 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 4: with the president on policy. Yeah, that's the point. It's 93 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 4: our turn. Now we're in charge in Texas. Deal with it, Libs. 94 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 4: But instead they try to raise really alynskiite sabotage in 95 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 4: the system that they try to find ways to pretend 96 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 4: like they're in the bathroom the whole time, so they 97 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 4: can't actually let the business of the state House go forward, 98 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 4: or in this case, they're fleeing the state entirely. I'll 99 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 4: also point this out Clay Governor Abbitt when he says 100 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 4: that people are accepting money to do a thing in 101 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 4: the legislature, that sounds like, you know, this isn't this 102 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 4: isn't like someone explaining a complicated Rico case. And no, no, no. 103 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 4: If someone's giving you money and you're doing something or 104 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 4: not doing something in the legislature because of it, that 105 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 4: is pretty much textbook bribery. So if that is now 106 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 4: he says, we have to see and look at the facts. 107 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 4: But I don't think he would raise that unless there's 108 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 4: some reason to believe that this is what has been 109 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 4: going on with some Democrats in that state. I think 110 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 4: that they maybe have forgotten themselves and forgotten statutory definitions a. 111 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: Bit here, but this is it's absurd. 112 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 4: So they're going to try to prevent the business of 113 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 4: the state from occurring as representatives of the state by 114 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: just calling in sick to work. I mean, I think 115 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 4: imagine if the Republicans in when we had a minority 116 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: in the House of the Senate to this, we'd be 117 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 4: told that this is the end of the of the 118 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 4: Republic as we know it. 119 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just frankly an embarrassment. And so again 120 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: I did a lot of deep dive on this because 121 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,799 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit of a nerd when it comes 122 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: to districting and effectively this question is just a function 123 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: of when you start it. 124 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 2: And let me explain what I mean by that. 125 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: Everybody does this to your point, and so acting like 126 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: what Texas is doing is somehow beyond the pale. What 127 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: has got democrats nervous is, Look, there's a three seat 128 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: majority right now in the House, and if five Republican 129 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: seats in theory were added in Texas, that takes it 130 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: to eight. It makes it harder for them to take 131 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: back the House, and they don't like Usually the redistricting 132 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: happens at the you know, closer to twenty twenty. The 133 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: mid decade redistricting is somewhat rare, not necessarily for Texas here, 134 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: so there's actually a little bit of a slant towards 135 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: Democrats right now in the House because they did better 136 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: in the House than they should have based on how 137 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: the national popular vote went. Right in theory, if we 138 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: had completely without jerry managering a national popular vote and 139 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: assigned congressional seats based on that, then Republicans would have 140 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: done a better job in the House in twenty twenty 141 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: four than they did one a narrow majority of the 142 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: Republicans did by three. Because Democrats have successfully jerrymandered so 143 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: many different states and now they're fired up about Texas. 144 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: Let me also point this out. Almost no one talks 145 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: about it. We screwed up as a country the census, 146 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: and as a result, the electoral votes are all screwed 147 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: up in favor of Democrats right now, and almost no 148 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: one will talk about it in twenty thirty when the 149 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: new census is done and you also then are able 150 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: to take into account all of the relocations to red states. 151 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: Democrats are in a tremendous amount of trouble in the 152 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: electoral college starting in twenty thirty two, because, for instance, 153 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: Kamala's path she would have won the election two seventy 154 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 1: two sixty eight if she had won Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, 155 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: that would have narrowly gotten her to the two seventy 156 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: majority that she needed to get to. That pathway is 157 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: not going to exist because red states are going to 158 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: be picking up a lot of additional electoral votes, and 159 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: so you can't win the presidency really without being able 160 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: to win some of the South, And so we're headed 161 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: for No One is talking about it because it's like 162 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: nobody can look more than one year in the future 163 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: when it comes to politics. But I think part of 164 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: this is a little bit of a panic setting in 165 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: on the Democrat side that the population bases of places 166 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: like Tennessee, Texas, and Florida are skyrocketing and they're taking 167 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: away the electoral votes of much of the Democrat base, 168 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: and so this is kind of an early preview of 169 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: a little bit of a panic that's setting in where 170 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: you're going to have more seats being reassigned to red 171 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: states and fewer in blue states. And again, the other 172 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: part of this that gets almost no attention is the 173 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: skewing for a legal immigration and that is a big 174 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: part of the taking people out of the country that 175 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: is hurting overall Democrats. So this story, I think is 176 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: a significant one, not only for what Texas does, but 177 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: for the mobilization that's going to be able to occur 178 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: in response to Texas. And that is why you are 179 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: already hearing people like Corey Booker and Kathy Hokel Let's 180 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: play Kathy Hokel more on New Yorker saying, Hey, maybe 181 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: we're going to have to do this too, cut twelve. 182 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 5: But Texas and Republican states are doing it the direction 183 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 5: of Donald Trump, I say, is nothing short of a 184 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 5: legal insurrection against our capital. Legal meaning they're using the 185 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 5: legal process, does not mean it's legal, and it must 186 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 5: be stuffed. The Republicans are willing to rewrite these rules 187 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 5: to give themselves an advantage that they're leaving us no 188 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 5: choice we must do the same. There's a phrase, you 189 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 5: have to fight fire with fire. That is a true 190 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 5: statement of how we're feeling right now. And as I said, 191 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 5: another overused but applicable phrase, all's fair in love and war. 192 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 5: That's why I'm exploring with our leaders every option to 193 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 5: redraw our state congressional lines as soon as possible. 194 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 4: What a morenes he is, buck Well, it's but it's 195 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 4: a widespread thing among Democrats now right. She's not the 196 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 4: only one, you know what, Clay, Let's have some fun 197 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 4: with this. Corey Booker, another prominent in this case, New 198 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 4: Jersey Democratic is having too much fun trashing these Northeastern 199 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 4: lives today. But here is Corey Booker of New Jersey 200 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 4: on the mid terms and jerry mandering, Play eleven. 201 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 6: I'm sick of the jerrymandering. But if Donald Trump is 202 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 6: going to push to jerry nander Texas, he's going to 203 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 6: break the rules in order to win. He can't win 204 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 6: by the rules they are right now, so he thinks 205 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 6: you should break the rules for Democrats to sit back 206 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 6: and just say, Okay, we're going to play by the 207 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 6: Queen's rules. No, I'm telling you right now, we need 208 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 6: to win in the midterm. We need to stop him 209 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 6: from cheating, from lying, and from stealing the election. And 210 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 6: if they're doing something to add their congressional seats, we 211 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 6: need to look at our ways of doing that right now. 212 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 4: Can I just tell you, Clay, if anyone's fun, maybe 213 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: you should put this up on clayanbuck dot com. Take 214 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 4: a look at Illinois congressional districts. Everybody a state where unfortunately, 215 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 4: you know, I've been to Springfield, Illinois years ago to 216 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 4: give a speech. There's actually a fair amount of Republicans 217 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 4: in that area. Like the rest of Illinois, like a 218 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 4: lot of blue states, is actually quite sane and quite 219 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 4: beautiful in its politics and in its countryside. It's Chicago 220 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 4: that makes the whole thing just a Democrat Democrat uniparty. 221 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 4: And when you look at the congressional map, it is absurd. 222 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 4: I mean, you've got the congressional map, it's like this 223 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,359 Speaker 4: little sliver here and there. They have gone to extreme 224 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 4: lengths to maintain the maximum number of congressional seats for 225 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 4: themselves in that state. And Corey Booker and Kathy Hochel 226 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 4: are a senator and a governor, respectively, of the Democrats 227 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 4: acting like, hey, if you guys, don't stop what you're doing. 228 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 4: We're gonna do the thing that we've ruthlessly doing all along. 229 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 4: What kind of a threat is that. It's like them 230 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 4: threatening to be a bunch of emotionally unstable weirdos. 231 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: They're already there. 232 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me give you an example, because to your point, Buck, 233 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: Illinois was about a ten and a half point difference 234 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 1: in the election, fifty. 235 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: Four to forty three. 236 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: So Illinois was closer percentage wise than Texas was, certainly 237 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: than Florida was. 238 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: They used to be toss up states. 239 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: Too, so and they basically have written out almost all 240 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: Democrats have taken over almost all of the congressional seats, 241 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: even though to your point, you're talking about a forty 242 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: four percent of the vote going this past year to 243 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: Trump inside of Illinois. Yeah, to your point as well, 244 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: it's the Midwest version of New York and California. Because 245 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: of Chicago's size, they have been able basically to take 246 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: over the entire state and make it a only one 247 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: in the Midwest that is somewhat of a monster reliable 248 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: blue state turnout. So point on all this is there 249 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: is much drama to come, but it is starting in 250 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: Texas and we will see what happens with when the 251 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: Democrat legislators in the state legislature are going to be 252 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: forced to come back, and we'll follow this. And we 253 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: have reached out as well, by the way, to the 254 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: governor of Texas who's been on the show quite a lot, 255 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: Greg Abbott, to see what the latest is there, and 256 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: he has an open invite to come on the program also. 257 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: But I want to tell you right now if you 258 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: ever had any doubt about the kind of evil permeating 259 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: within Hamas on full display over the weekend when they 260 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: released video of surviving Israeli hostages, including one that they 261 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: may dig his own grave. 262 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: They've been in control of Hamas for nearly two years, 263 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: and the reason Hamas took those hostages was to try 264 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: to retain political power, and that is what they are 265 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: are still attempting to do, even as so many people 266 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: in Gaza struggle. 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You ain't imagining it. 276 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: The world has gone insane. 277 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 7: Reclaim your sanity with Clay and Fund. Find them on 278 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 7: the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 279 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. 280 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 4: And Trump is not happy with something. And I'm going 281 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 4: to tell you. When Trump isn't happy about something, he 282 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 4: lets people know. He tends not to bottle it up inside. 283 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 4: He's not shy about somebody messing up that is in 284 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 4: his orbit. And he was not happy with the jobs 285 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 4: report numbers on Friday. This is what he said, play thirteen. 286 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 8: We'll be announcing a new statistician sometime over the next 287 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 8: three four days. 288 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: We had no confidence. 289 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 8: I mean, the numbers were ridiculous what she announced, but 290 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 8: that was just one negative number. All of the numbers 291 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 8: seem to be great. And so let's see how that 292 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 8: comes out. And if you remember just before the election, 293 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 8: this woman came out with these phenomenal numbers on Biden's economy, 294 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 8: phenomenal numbers, and then right after the election they announced 295 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 8: that those numbers were wrong. And that's what they did 296 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 8: the other day. 297 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: So it's a scam in my opinion. 298 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 8: My opinion is just it's just additional scam. 299 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 4: Clay he says, it's a scam. I just want to 300 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 4: point out some things that Trump has said as a 301 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 4: scam that we were told you were not allowed to 302 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 4: say in the past polls. Remember when political polls were 303 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 4: somehow supposed to be sacro sanct not anymore. 304 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: What I would just say is some people are saying, oh, 305 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: this is based on one month's numbers. This group has 306 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: been wrong almost every month, and they have been wrong 307 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: on the positive side and come back and had to 308 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: revise and bring down the numbers. They did it for 309 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: much of Biden's tenure. They now have done it for 310 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: some of Trump's tenure as well. If you're trying to 311 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: accurately reflect the numbers and you always are wrong, it 312 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: seems to me that in most life experience and jobs, 313 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: you would get fired. I don't understand why this should 314 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: be any different if there's somebody else who could do 315 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: a better job of the job. 316 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 4: There's a lot that went on last week with respect 317 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 4: to our economy. You might have missed some of it. 318 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 4: We had a Federal Reserve meeting without a rate change. 319 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 4: We had a revised jobs report the last three months 320 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 4: that show in less. 321 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 2: Than spectacular growth. We just talked about that. 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One of you listening in New Mexico 345 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: writes in and I want to make sure that I 346 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: get this, but I'm looking as I was talking to you, 347 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: I was looking up what the twenty twenty four New 348 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: Mexico presidential election. 349 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: Results looked like. 350 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: And Kamala Harris won New Mexico by about five points. 351 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 1: Trump got forty six percent of the vote, Kamala Harris 352 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: got fifty one or fifty two percent of the vote, 353 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: so five to six points. 354 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: In other words, pretty close as states go. 355 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: Virginia was very close, New Mexico was very close, New 356 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: Jersey was very close. Minnesota very close. If you are 357 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: on the Republican side, looking towards additional states that could 358 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: have flipped. But for you know, two and a half 359 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: or three percent of voters changing their minds, the outcome 360 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: of that race could have been completely flipped. And the 361 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: reactions pouring in and this is a good one. This 362 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: is from Kevin. I live in New Mexico. I just 363 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: told you it was a state five five and a 364 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: half points that Trump lost. A couple of years ago, 365 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: the Democrat leader of the state legislature publicly stated he 366 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: would redraw the lines in New Mexico so no Republican 367 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: would ever win again, and he did just that. Most 368 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: of southern New Mexico is conservative. We've always been able 369 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 1: to elect Republicans in the southern district. The redrawn lines 370 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: put large portions of more liberal areas in the north, 371 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: Albuquerque and Santa Fe into the southern district. As a result, 372 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: Southern New Mexico has no representation. Don't let the Democrats 373 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: act like this is something new and they've never done 374 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: it before. They can't handle not being in power. New 375 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: Mexico is a great example, I believe again. And there 376 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: are a lot of different states and a lot of 377 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: different redistrictings to be on top of but I believe 378 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: just in the last few years, New Mexico said, hey, 379 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: we are going to effectively eliminate the Republican Party, and 380 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: Democrats have all of the congressional seats. I want to 381 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: look up what the math is in Illinois because it's 382 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: among the most egregious as we were talking about earlier. 383 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: But this is a good question too from Britt who 384 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: writes in I don't know enough to fully understand the 385 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: redistricting fight in Texas. I'm all for it if it 386 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: helps keep Texas red. How does the influx of illegal 387 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: immigrants being counted in the sense play into the numbers? 388 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: Thanks? 389 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: This is a huge story that no one talks about. 390 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: They aren't ostensibly allowed to vote, but illegal immigrants are 391 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: counted for congressional districts for purposes of the overall population 392 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: in a district. And I think roughly seven hundred thousand 393 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: in change is the average number of people in each 394 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: congressional district, and illegal immigrants are counted there. And depending 395 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: on which study you look at, Republicans are losing and 396 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: Democrats are gaining ten or more seats based on illegal 397 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: immigrants being counted for purposes of a redistricting that seems 398 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: to me like it shouldn't be allowed and it seems 399 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: like something that should be addressed. And again I didn't 400 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: know this until a few years ago was even going on. 401 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: I feel like huge percentages of people don't know it 402 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: still exists. It's hoping to preserve districts that otherwise would 403 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: be flipped for actual citizens. And it's actually an incentive 404 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: for why illegal immigration does benefit the Democrat party when 405 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: it comes to political power allocation. 406 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 4: Just looking at the strategy here what they've got going on. 407 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 4: Legislators may have committed felonies. We talked about that if 408 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 4: they solicit funds to evade the fines that exist under 409 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 4: House rules. So Texas Democrats face a five hundred dollars 410 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 4: a day fine. Republican controlled legislature approve this punishment in 411 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three when Democrats left for three weeks to 412 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 4: try to block another bill on election integrity, and Abbott 413 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 4: has said in his statement play I will use my 414 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 4: full extradition authority to demand the return to Texas of 415 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 4: any potential out of state felons. Texas State House Democrat 416 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 4: Caucus said, come and take it. So they're you know, 417 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 4: they're creating a show down. I get it, it's politics 418 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 4: and everything else. But the reality here is Democrats are 419 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 4: acting like children because they're not getting their way, and 420 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 4: that's there's there's no what is the good faith explanation 421 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 4: they have for are we're supposed to be representatives, We're 422 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 4: supposed to show up when there's a session called. We're 423 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 4: just not going to show up to do our job, 424 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 4: so that you can't actually function as the State of 425 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 4: Texas elected officials. So you know, I think that this 426 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 4: is pretty clear what's going on to anyone who's paying attention. 427 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 4: But that's really what this goes to, Clay. They're hoping 428 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 4: that a lot of people just want to hear Republicans 429 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 4: are bad. They don't ever get beyond that. If you 430 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 4: turn on MSNBC. I might have even had Morning Joe 431 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 4: on a little bit this morning. You turn on MSNBC, 432 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 4: it's just Republicans are bad. The argument doesn't matter. And 433 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 4: so you have the same thing with jerrymandering, where it's 434 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 4: they're evil. They're doing the thing that we do all 435 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 4: the time, exactly the same or worse. It doesn't matter, right, 436 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 4: They just want to hear what they want to hear. 437 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 4: So I think whatever tools Texas Republicans have it on 438 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 4: at hand to get the quorum, they should absolutely use 439 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 4: and they should put on the political brass knuckles for 440 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 4: this one. 441 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: It's time. 442 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: Illinois fourteen Democrats, three Republicans, and I just told you 443 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: that Republicans got almost forty five percent of the overall 444 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: presidential vote in the state. So fourteen to three in 445 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: Illinois is among the most egregious of all of the 446 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: redrawn states. We just mentioned New Mexico, which forty six 447 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: percent of people voted Republican in that state, not one 448 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: single congressional representative. And by the way, I would think 449 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: as you look towards twenty twenty eight that New Mexico 450 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: is one of the states that Republicans would say it 451 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: may well be moving towards us because Nevada and Arizona, 452 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: we're both very successful twenty twenty four cycles. 453 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 4: Well, also, what tools are at their disposal? Just to 454 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 4: clarify that, Governor Abbott has said that this is a 455 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 4: quote abandonment or forfeiture of an elected state office, and 456 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 4: so they don't show up. The Texas AG says that 457 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 4: they can take steps to quote remove the missing Democrats 458 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 4: from membership in the Texas House. Now maybe that goes 459 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 4: into the courts, but let's let's be very clear about this. 460 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 4: If they're able to do this, I mean, just just 461 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 4: work on this logically. Like I'm not going to pretend 462 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 4: that I'm an expert in the Texas State Constitution, right, 463 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,959 Speaker 4: and I'm sure it's a robust and very interesting document. Uh, 464 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 4: but if you just look at this logically, Clay, then 465 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 4: anybody who's in the minority party could completely block all 466 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 4: business in the in the Texas or in the state 467 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,239 Speaker 4: legislature that they don't like by refusing to show up 468 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 4: for work. 469 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: That's it. I mean, think about what a what a 470 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: you know, VW that is on the business of the state. 471 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 4: You can just say, oh, until we have a majority 472 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 4: in this state, we are just going to stay home 473 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 4: from work and prevent the other people who want to 474 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 4: show up from doing the people's business. 475 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: That's insane. Well, of course that's insane. 476 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: Not only that, how about the decision to flee to Illinois, 477 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: which is I think probably the most jerry manndered state 478 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: in the entire country. Texas Democrats will still have a 479 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: much higher percentage of seats in the state of Texas 480 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: than Republicans do in Illinois. So I just I don't 481 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: understand sometimes how moronic the calculus is. And it's not 482 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: always on the Democrat side, also on the Republican side 483 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: sometimes this happens. But if you were just calling up 484 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: for advice and you said, hey, we're going to leave 485 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: the state and refuse to do our job, I would say, well, 486 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: I think that's a bad look point one. And then 487 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: in point two, if you were saying, and we're going 488 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: to flee and we're gonna go to Illinois, I would say, well, 489 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: have you looked at the map of Illinois? Because you're 490 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: actually arguing against a jerrymander by fleeing to the most 491 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: egregious jerrymandered state in the entire country. 492 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 4: But you are getting several layers deep into this analysis, 493 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 4: and they are assuming they're Democrats, they assume their voters 494 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 4: don't know anything to begin with, so they're definitely not 495 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 4: going to understand or care to understand what's going on here. 496 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 2: Right You're you're approaching this like if you were. 497 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 4: Sitting across from somebody who's a you know, a Democrat 498 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 4: political strategist, and we're having this argument or you're having 499 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 4: this debate, right, which it's important for all of you 500 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 4: to hear this, But what Clay is doing doesn't even 501 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 4: I don't think this the Democrats believe that's even relevant. 502 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: You know, the argument is irrelevant. It's the emotion, it's 503 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 2: the feeling. 504 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: It's yeah, resist, But even if you're there, even if 505 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: you're a moron and you're like, hey, first of all, 506 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: to start now and act like when every state has 507 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: basically jerrymandered from a whole decade that is either red 508 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: or blue, to act now as if oh my goodness, 509 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: I can't believe Texas. I love to, you know, grab 510 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: your pearls and fall on your fainting couch here is ridiculous. 511 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: But if you're going to protest, I would just suggest 512 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: going to a blue state that is one of the 513 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: least jerry mandered states and trying to argue, hey, this 514 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: is the way that real politicians do it. 515 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: JB. 516 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 4: Pritzker, the trust fund billionaires, said, he's providing them with 517 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 4: office space and he's hooking them up, right, I mean, 518 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 4: he's got them covered. 519 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: And also he isn't that hard to do that in Minnesota, 520 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: or to do that. I mean, I'm just saying even 521 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: by moron status to go to drop you got to 522 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: drop the IQ fifteen points here, Clay. You got to 523 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,719 Speaker 1: stop thinking, you know, you got to start thinking about this, 524 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: like the the average MSNBC viewer who's. 525 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: Just like, Eh, Republicans are bad. I don't like them, 526 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 2: you know, that's it. What they're doing. Jerry Mandering is racist. 527 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 2: How is Jared? What does it even mean? It's just 528 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: about getting votes for your song? It's racist, I mean anything. 529 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 2: This is actually interesting. 530 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,239 Speaker 1: Do you know why, calif why Texas is able to 531 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: change the congressional districts as they are. Hispanic support, Yes, 532 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: the Hispanic support for opposity racist. 533 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. And by the way, the biggest wings when it. 534 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 4: Comes to congressional districts of Hispanic support towards the Republicans 535 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 4: are in the areas most directly affected by the open border, 536 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 4: free for all policies of the Biden administration, meaning border adjacent. 537 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 4: They've had people literally running through their backyards for years 538 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 4: and they've had enough. They actually don't like that, And 539 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 4: I understand why. 540 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 6: Yeah. 541 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: I just think it's super fascinating because the reason this, 542 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: this map is able to be written and expanded as 543 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: it is is because Democrats have hemorrhaged Hispanic support and 544 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: as a result, Republicans can now draw majority Hispanic districts 545 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: which are going to elect Republicans, which, by the way, 546 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: you talked earlier about Trump being right, they said that 547 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: Trump would make Hispanics forever not willing to vote for Republicans. Instead, 548 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: he almost won Hispanics in twenty twenty four according to 549 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: nationwide AP vote casts. 550 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: And this is a racist hugely the historic advantage. This 551 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 2: is a huge reason. 552 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,959 Speaker 4: Why the pendulum has swung so clearly on the issue 553 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 4: of deportations and immigration enforcement. 554 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: It used to be, oh, you're racist, you want a 555 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: secure border. Really, the the. 556 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 4: Sixty percent of Latinos who want a secure border because 557 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 4: they're Latino Americans who are legally here, they're racist against Latinos, 558 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 4: is that is that what we're going for doesn't work. 559 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 4: That's just that's not that doesn't fly the way that 560 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 4: it used to. All Right, If your cell phone service 561 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 4: is with Verizon AT and T or T Mobile, you're 562 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 4: overpaying for wireless. You're paying retail stores that you're never 563 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 4: going to go in too, that you don't need. 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Dan in Long Islands, 609 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 4: a lovely place this time of year. 610 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,959 Speaker 9: What's up, dan, Oh, beautiful day two guys. 611 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 10: Listen. 612 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 9: I'm driving on the Southern State Parkway listening to Kathy 613 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 9: Hochel speak about the redistioning, and I was tempted to 614 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 9: swerve my car into an abutment and just end it 615 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 9: all because so while I was on hold, I googled 616 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 9: this entire process. 617 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 10: It's goes something like. In twenty ten, New York voters 618 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 10: me included passed an initiative on the ballot demanding a 619 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 10: independent person to the redistionsing. It passed overwhelming the people 620 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 10: spoke in twenty fourteen. From twenty fourteen to twenty twenty two, 621 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 10: the Democrats realized they just screwed themselves and try to 622 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 10: get out of it, to the point where when our 623 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 10: new Chief Justice was about to be appointed in New 624 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 10: York State, Hoko went along with the long respected panel 625 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 10: that tells you who the best judges she appointed. She 626 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 10: wanted to appoint the judge, but he had ordered at 627 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 10: the Canada bag that he was not going to a 628 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 10: left this rule to be overturned that we voted for, 629 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 10: so they couldn't put him in so they had to 630 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 10: put another person in who allowed this entire process to 631 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 10: get to get politicized. And as a result my district, 632 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 10: I was in Peter King's district, I went to Garbarino's district. 633 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 10: Then I was back in Swazi's district, which became Santos's 634 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,959 Speaker 10: district when he won, was quickly redistrict again. And now 635 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 10: you notice that you don't hear a peep from either 636 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 10: Swazi or Laura Gillen about Mandani or anything, because they 637 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 10: know they are two votes away from losing. They had 638 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 10: the very tight elections, and they're trying desperately to redistrict again, 639 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 10: to push those districts further into New York City to 640 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,479 Speaker 10: get more Democratic voters. And for Kathy Hochel to say 641 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 10: anything about the state of Texas is I would say 642 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 10: it's comical, but I don't know whether I should laugh 643 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 10: for cry. And we're stuck in New York here where 644 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 10: we lose the we lose theguvatory in elections. We have 645 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 10: forty two to forty five percent of the vote, but 646 00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 10: we only have about twelve as you know, our congressional disition. 647 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 10: Gerry Mantew went into their life, the state Senate and 648 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 10: legislative districts are even worse. You couldn't even come up 649 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 10: with a Ruschack test to what some of these districts 650 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 10: look like. Kathy Hockel and California and Illinois hold might 651 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 10: be it. I live in New York. We do it 652 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 10: better than anybody. 653 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 4: Dan and Long Island representing the Strong Island well with 654 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 4: the call Dan, thank you so much. 655 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: New York Times has a had a big deep dive 656 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: on this, and they said, again, I think the easiest 657 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: way to look at this is by the overall national 658 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: popular vote in who the votes are going to. Democrats 659 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: have benefited in twenty four Republicans should have had a 660 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: bigger majority than we did, and so it slants a 661 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,479 Speaker 1: little bit left according to the New York Times, which 662 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: if they're saying, I feel like it's probably a little 663 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: bit left slanted right and maybe a little bit more 664 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: than a little bit more on this. 665 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 2: We come back appreciate y'all one day. 666 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 6: Dis