1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Live from 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: joint practices with the Carolina Panthers, this is Patriots Unfiltered. 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: All right, Welcome into Patriots Live. I'm training team. We 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: are here to day. What is this called? Day? Twelve thirteen, 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: fourteen fourteen. Keep following through them here to keep up. 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: It is the last day of open practice for us 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: here as the media, as the fans as well, of course, 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: presented by optim today. We're excited to bring you the 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: last day. I mean, guys, it's nice day out. I 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: mean it's overcast, kind of cool. Definitely a departure from 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: what we've seen. This is an example of just no 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: matter what happens, it's it's everything that's great. And Mike, 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: it's like sixty two degrees overcast. It looks like it 15 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: could start pouring any minute. Nice day here in Foxborrow. Well, 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: the kids, I'm thinking about the players. They got to 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: put on the pads. It's you know, you're not getting 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: the sun. I just think that's that's where I'm coming from. 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: That's my perspective. Of course, for us, we're we're sheltered 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: up here. We have all the days. All the days 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: are the same for us, All the days are the same. 22 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: They're starting to come together, of course, and join Paul Pirillo, 23 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: Evan Lazar will have Tamara Brown coming in Alexander Francisco 24 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 1: as well. So we're excited to bring you everything that's 25 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: going to happen. Yesterday was an eventful day. We saw 26 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: plenty of good football action, a little bit extracurricular action 27 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: that maybe we didn't want to see as much of, 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: but hopefully they got that stuff in line. But first, guys, 29 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: I just want to start with a little bit of 30 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: news from last night. As we're you know, waiting here, 31 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: no one's really coming out as you guys are seeing. 32 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: The fields are just getting ready. A couple moves last 33 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: night by the Patriots to get down to eighty five 34 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: roster spots. Jewan Williams and Malcolm Butler both ending up 35 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: on IR, which at this point in preseason, if you 36 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: end up on IR, that is it. You are Donzo. 37 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: So unfortunately that is it. From Malcolm Butler's come back 38 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: attempt after taking a year off, Juwan Williams was, you know, 39 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: certainly in a battle for a roster spot, and Evan, 40 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: you wrote a little something last night. How do you 41 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: think this is going to play out? What's the impact 42 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: that you're looking four down on the field today at 43 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: the cornerback position. I wasn't entirely sure that Malcolm Butler 44 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: was going to make the fifty three man roster, to 45 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: be honest with you, but I think that between him 46 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: and Terrence Mitchell, one of those guys was probably gonna 47 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: get a spot and then maybe contribute this year for 48 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots in the secondary. So now that kind of 49 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: shooes Terrence Mitchell in right, He's sort of the veteran 50 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: guy along with Jalen Mills in that secondary and Jonathan Jones. 51 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: I think what we've seen over the last couple of 52 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: days though, and really since the beginning of last week, 53 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: was Jonathan Jones on the outside with Jalen Mills and 54 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: Miles Brian and Marcus Jones the rookie from Houston rotating 55 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: in the slot. And I think that that's what we're 56 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: going to continue to see out here today and moving forward. 57 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: But I'm not sure if Malcolm Butler would have made 58 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: the team. I think there were moments where it looked 59 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: like he was starting to get back to form to 60 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: what he was in twenty twenty. But I still think 61 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: that this isn't a major blow to the Patriots in 62 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: terms of a core contributor for them this season, more 63 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: of a guy that was depth piece. Yeah, I think 64 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: it chips away at the depth a little bit. I 65 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: agree one thousand percent with evans summation of the entire situation. 66 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: I think both of those guys, John Williams and Malcolm 67 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: Butler were probably on the bubble. It looked like Terrence 68 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: Mitchell had a leg up on you know, those two 69 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: in terms of being able to stick around. And I 70 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: think it. You know, you have a couple of young guys. 71 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: You mentioned Marcus Jones in the slot. Jack Jones isn't 72 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: going anywhere obviously as a as a rookie, and uh, 73 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: you know, I think that they like some of those 74 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: the promise that some of those young guys. I think 75 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of Miles Bryant in this camp. 76 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: I think they like what he does. And you know, 77 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: and Evan mentioned them working Jonathan Jones on the outside. 78 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: So that's something that will continue to monitor today in 79 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: day two of the work with the Panthers. But he 80 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: was a boundary corner all day yesterday. That's been about 81 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: a week now that we've seen that, So I think 82 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: that's more than just sort of an experiment at this point. 83 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: I think that they're sort of figuring out what their 84 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: depth is back there, and they had a couple of veterans. 85 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: I think it does potentially chip away your but I 86 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: don't think it's, you know, one of those ovally pressing 87 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: losses that you're gonna say, wow, you know, they really 88 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: could use John Williams and Malcolm Butler say in week nine, Yeah, 89 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: I do feel bad for Malcolm, I mean, taking a 90 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: year off and as Evan said, I mean it was 91 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: a little tough to read on how he was coming back. 92 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: But but maybe a guy like Sean Wade gets a 93 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,559 Speaker 1: little bit more opportunity. Certainly in the games, those guys 94 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: are gonna be playing a little bit more. With Devin Hafford, 95 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent that the team had originally signed 96 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: and had released and now I've brought back, so they're 97 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: rounding out their depth a little bit. So we're here waiting, 98 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: uh for everybody start rolling out. It seems like we're 99 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: gonna get another little bit of a rolling start, but 100 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: we'd love to hear from you guys, send us an email, 101 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: web radio at Patriots dot com. An opportunity though, for 102 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: Sean Wade right about that, And you know, he showed 103 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: up a little bit yesterday was around the ball a 104 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: little bit, made a couple of plays, one with the 105 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: mits on, and then all of a sudden, the mits 106 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: came off, which I thought was weird, like in the 107 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: like had to break free, like bake a play, you'll 108 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: get out of the mit. He was like, yeah, it 109 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: was like Andy Dufrain and Shawshank. You know, I have 110 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: these mits off. I can pick off a pass now. 111 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: So it was it is an opportunity for him, and 112 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: I would put him in that same category of a 113 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: bubble player, and now you lose a couple of veterans. 114 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: I think his chances are greatly enhanced to stick around. Yeah, 115 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: I would love to see him, you know, make some plays, 116 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: take advantage this opportunity. You feel like over today Thursday 117 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: Nights game, he's he's really got an opportunity to step 118 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: up and maybe, you know, continue to build on what 119 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: he So I feel like I haven't gotten a great 120 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: sense on him yet I know, you know, some people 121 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: are have been focusing on him a little bit more, 122 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: but uh, certainly with the loss of depth, a little 123 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: bit of of opportunity for him, and uh and one 124 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: other move, you know, backup punter Jake Julian was also released. 125 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: So that that gets the Patriots down to eighty five. 126 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to get down to eighty next week. 127 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: So the cuts are happening fast and furious here as 128 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: they aim to get down to it to fifty three. 129 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: A little bit of a recap from yesterday though, um, 130 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, general takeaways, it felt like everybody defense dominant, 131 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: as as Dietrich wise I believe said felt they were 132 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: dominant offense. You know, maybe some some strides in the 133 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: passing game. Second in a row, it felt like, you know, 134 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: just looked comfortable, maybe in rhythm. It's it's you know, 135 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: hard to say, oh this is you know, when explosive. 136 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: Oh they're throwing it all over the field, but it 137 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: just felt evan like they were able to get some 138 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: of their core concepts in and they look comfortable doing it. 139 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: And that is something that's a big change for maybe 140 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: the first week when we saw them. I'm just kind 141 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: of struggling to string place together and really find any consistency. 142 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: Maybe it's an indication of where they started that we're 143 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: now up a here with them right where we say, 144 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: you know, one day, where they looked like the passing 145 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: game down the field is a little bit more in rhythm. 146 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: Is this great thing. I'm not going to sell it 147 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: like it was the two two thousand and seven Patriots 148 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: out here yesterday, But what we did see, I thought 149 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: early on in practice in particular, was the play action 150 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: passing game starting to take hold. And I think when 151 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: you get into some of these training camp practices against 152 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: your own defense and your own team, and you're repping 153 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: week after week, practice after practice the same things against 154 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: your own defense, defensive players are smart. They start to 155 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: pick up on what you're doing. They start to read 156 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: the keys a little bit faster, and some of those 157 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,119 Speaker 1: misdirection or play action fakes and things like that don't 158 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: sell as hard. When they got in here with Carolina yesterday, 159 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: very first eleven on eleven period, they were in three 160 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: straight play action concepts and there was open guys off 161 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: of all three of those plays. So the Panthers weren't 162 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: as prepared obviously for what they were throwing at them 163 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: as what their own defense had been over the last 164 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: couple weeks. So I was just generally excited. I guess 165 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: they're happy that that was the case. You know that 166 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: they had some instances where there were open targets, not 167 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: just like you know, DeVante Parker catching a contested catch 168 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,559 Speaker 1: down the sideline, but legitimately open receivers down the field. 169 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: And we haven't seen a ton of that, I wouldn't 170 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: say in camp with the starting offense so far. Yeah, 171 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: that was like it was. I was with Teutrich twice. 172 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: You know, he said he felt felt like they dominated 173 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: from start to finish. I agree. I thought the Patriots 174 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: defense really dictated everything that happened on the field to 175 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: our right yesterday, I thought they were in control. I 176 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: think Evan made the comment when he came on with 177 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: us about how the offensive line in particular really owned 178 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: the Panthers offensive line, and you know some of that 179 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: involved you know, some you know, highly touted rookies. You know, 180 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: Uh said the quantum was top ten pick. And I 181 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: thought Dietrich wise really destroyed him at times. I thought 182 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: he had two or three times where he just had 183 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: really like immediate pressure to blow up a potential play. Um. 184 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: You know, obviously we don't keep track of the stats 185 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: and whatnot, but it seemed like half of the pass 186 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: players the Panthers were attempting yesterday either would have been 187 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: affected or stopped completely by the pass rush. And you 188 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: know that, you know, it's it's live up front. You know, 189 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: you might say, well, they're not tackling, they're not doing 190 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: this hard to evaluate the running game things like that, 191 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: but if you're getting in on pass on a pass 192 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: rush and you're not tackling the quarterback, you're still there. Yeah, 193 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: and we saw that throughout the day yesterday. That was 194 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: a good side for the Patriots defense. I thought, Yeah, 195 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: the only the only takeaway I had, you know, maybe 196 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: slightly negative was you know, yesterday I wanted to see 197 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: some some strides from the running game, and you know, 198 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: aside from maybe one run, it just didn't seem like 199 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: they were really opening up holes. We saw a little 200 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: bit of the wide zone that we saw earlier in camp. 201 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: But that's one thing I think that they still might 202 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: have a little bit of a ways to go. Would 203 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,479 Speaker 1: love to see it today, just you know, some consistency 204 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: in the running game. What do you think of the 205 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: running game yesterday? Have It's tough to evaluate the running 206 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: game to me in practice sometimes. And I actually asked 207 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: Damon Harris about this after practice, and I said, there's 208 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: no tackling to the ground there. Some of these blocks. 209 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: They don't want to truly finish it right. They're not 210 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: going to put anybody into the ground in practice or 211 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: anything like that. So us from our vantage point kind 212 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: of understanding, is there actually holes here? What's going on? 213 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: Is there creases? Is there space for the running backs? 214 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: Can be a little bit tricky, And he said it 215 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: was a work in progress, so I think he feels 216 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: like maybe it's not always the cleanest picture for him either. 217 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: So I would agree with you that there haven't been 218 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: a ton of huge holes. I think the biggest hole 219 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: that they opened up they actually called it back for 220 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: holding early on in practice yesterday. So you'd like to 221 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: see that, you'd like to see a little bit more 222 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: space for the running game in general, But maybe some 223 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: of that I think it could be that, well, Damien Harris, 224 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: you know, burst through the line, breaks the tackle all 225 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, gain out here that looks 226 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: like it's three yards might turn into eight yards really quickly. Yeah, 227 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: one guy that you know continues to stand out for me. 228 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: I wrote a little bit about him yesterday It's just 229 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: Time Montgomery, um, which which was funny, Evan because you 230 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: you know, I wrote about him and then you retweeted it, 231 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, all the fantasy guys 232 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: came came calling, Like the fantasy guys they saw this 233 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: Time Montgomery thing, and you know, it's a smattering of 234 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: insults and you know, all that kind of stuff. But 235 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's looked good out here. You can't 236 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: be a good player if you don't have high fantasy, right. 237 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: You know, I tapped a whole new section to Twitter yesterday. 238 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: I was not expecting to with my Time Montgomery piece. 239 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: But uh, you know, depending on how you feel about 240 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: fantasy and you know PPR and all that. I mean, 241 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: I just I just think he's going to be involved. 242 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: It seems like it's Damian Harris, Romander Stevenson and him, 243 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: And at this point would at least appear that Pierre Strong, 244 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: Kevin Harris to some extent JJ Taylor a kind of 245 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: in that second group. I would agree, you know that 246 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm not really expecting much out of those rookies yet. 247 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: I think they'll get plenty of time on these next 248 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: two games, but I think time Montgomery's gonna I don't 249 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: want to say he's going to be James White, because 250 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: there's no replacing James White. But at the same time, 251 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: I think he's got a lot of different things that 252 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: he can do and a lot of things that they 253 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: can play with. Bill Belichick talked a little bit about 254 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: that yesterday. I just think his ability to run routes 255 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: like a wide receiver, because he has a backgrounds as 256 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: a receiver, I think that offers a little bit of 257 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: a different dimension and I think a little less and 258 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: we talked about this on the show a lot, a 259 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: little less predictability when he's in the game, because I 260 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: do think he as much as I love James White, 261 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: I think for the most part, it was going to be, 262 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: you know, a pass, play, a screen, you know, maybe 263 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: an occasional draw for him, But you weren't going to 264 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: line up traditionally and run the ball consistently with James White. 265 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: I think you can do that a little bit with 266 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: with Montgomery. I think he's more effective as a receiver 267 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: than than a flat out runner. But I do think 268 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: that there's some more versatility there to what they can 269 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: do play calling from a play calling perspective with Montgomery, 270 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: and there's no doubt he's going to be a part 271 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: of this offense. We've seen every day virtually he's been 272 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: heavily involved. Yeah, and having some experience to some other systems, 273 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: I think it gives him just a little bit of 274 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: a comfort running those wide zones, picking you know, picking 275 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: the whole knowing where to go. I think some of 276 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: his best runs this summer have just been him getting 277 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: the edge and you know, turning it up and showing. 278 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: I don't I'm not familiar with his full body of 279 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: work as an NFL veteran, but as far as what 280 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: it's been in camp, I think he's been He's been 281 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: pretty effective, and especially a position that they need a 282 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: guy that can catch the ball out of the backfield 283 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 1: is Uh. We're seeing some of the Panthers starting to 284 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: make their way in Jeremiah Farms Paul two days in 285 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: a row, the number one guy on the field. But 286 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you think about I'm not 287 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: allowed to talk about that. We're having some fun here 288 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: the final day at camp, maybe we're getting a little bit, 289 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: a little bit delirious perhaps as as we get going, 290 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: but we are back in things to get going pretty quick. 291 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: This morning. There is no Bill Belichick press conference. Uh, 292 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: they're supposed to just roll right into things. And guys, 293 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: I mentioned James White briefly there. You had a chance 294 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: to be at there. I didn't have a chance. I 295 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: had a chance to be at James White's retirement ceremony 296 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: last night. I was here at Gilette Stadium. Robert Craft spoke, 297 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick spoke, James got up and uh, you know, 298 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: it was an emotional moment, and you know, I think 299 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: he thought maybe he'd be able to squeeze a couple 300 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: more years out, but he just said, you know, my 301 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: hip about a couple of weeks before camp, he realized, 302 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of plateaued. I'm not really feeling better. 303 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: It's kind of stuck where it's at, and you know, 304 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: could I play maybe, but I don't want to put 305 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: the team in that position. So, you know, James White, 306 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: I think went out the way he kind of lived 307 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: it was, you know, with total class, and you know, 308 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: you could just see everybody, all the teammates and coaches 309 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: coming into the into the lounge upstairs showing their support 310 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: for James White. I just felt bad for his wife 311 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: because his daughter was like running around screaming the whole time, 312 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: and his poor wife was just chasing him all around 313 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: the back of the thing. And he's, you know, going 314 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: to this speech thank and his wife are all the support, 315 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: and you know, meanwhile she's in the back, you know, 316 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: trying to calm a kid. But but it was a 317 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: real nice night. And of course, Paul, I know you 318 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: you think as highly at James White as as anybody. Yeah, 319 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: he's he's one of my favorites. I would say he's 320 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: in a top ten of the guys that I've come 321 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: across in the twenty four years that I've been doing 322 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: this stuff. He's just always, always accessible, always cordial, never combative. 323 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that because, like, well, he makes 324 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: our job easier, because I understand it's not about us, 325 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: and it's not about us, you know, our jobs being 326 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: made easier, but just professional from the moment he got here, 327 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: a quiet leader. I think as respected in the locker 328 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: room as any of those guys. And you listen to 329 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: the veterans like mccordy and Slater over the years talk 330 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: about him and the way they talked about him, and 331 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: I just think if if you needed any evidence theory 332 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: action in that game after the tragedy involving his parents 333 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: and that Sunday night game against Seattle when he couldn't play, um, 334 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, I think mccordy had to pick six and 335 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: you know, had had a message for him in the camera. 336 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: That was the kind of respect that James White, uh, 337 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, earned, you know, with among his peers. Not 338 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: a vocal, boastful kind of guy, but but just a 339 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: quiet leader in one of the more respected, reliable, just 340 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: reliable players this team has had. Always laughing too, always 341 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: having a good time. Even though he wasn't a big talker, 342 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: whenever he was with us at the podium, he was 343 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: always a really nice and cordial guy. And I thought 344 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: it was interesting just from a football perspective, Bill Belichick 345 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: talking about his combine and how he really didn't test 346 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: very well, didn't didn't have some ridiculous three cone time 347 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: or anything like that, but they had seen on tape 348 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: that he had that kind of quickness and he had 349 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: those types of skills. And I'm not it's obviously testing 350 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: into the scouting department that they were able to find 351 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: a guy like James White, but it also does go 352 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: to show that the testing numbers aren't necessarily everything. When 353 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: he turned on the tape with a guy and see 354 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: that he's got a good football savvy and he's got 355 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: that ability to get in out of cuts and an 356 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: out of breaks. So those are the types of things 357 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: that stand out when you watch the tape versus just 358 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: watching the combine and looking at three cone times and 359 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: things like that. And I also thought Belichick before practice 360 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: yesterday gave a little tutorial on blitz pick up and 361 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: pass protection rules and things like that for running backs, 362 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: and you really start to get into how intricate it 363 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: can really be. Sort of the way that they fit 364 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: into the pattern and the way they fit into things 365 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: can be a pretty detailed from the backfield. And I 366 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: think a guy like Time Montgomery has such a leg 367 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: up just because of being a veteran him playing in 368 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: New Orleans, which does have some crossover Sean Payton's playbook 369 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: to what they do with the Patriots with their running 370 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: backs and Green Bay, and his biggest season in the 371 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: NFL was as that pass catching a wide receiver, slash 372 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: running back, do it all type of player. I agree 373 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: with Paul that his versatility to flex out and line 374 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: up as a wide receiver and out of the backfield 375 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: brings a different element. We obviously saw James do that 376 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: a ton, but it wasn't as wide receiver like when 377 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: he would run routes on the outside, where I think 378 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: Montgomery can run a wide receiver route. Tree might not 379 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: be as quick at the top of the route as 380 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: James White was, but he's got a little bit more 381 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: of a natural wide receiver look to him, which I 382 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: think can offer up some really intriguing matchup problems. And 383 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: we've seen the Patriots in the past. They'll send wide receivers, 384 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: running backs out wide, they'll send tight ends out wide, 385 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: fullbacks out wide, and it dictates the way that the 386 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: coverage can play them. Either a linebacker has to go 387 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: out there, or safety has to go out there, or 388 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: they leave the corner out there on him, and that 389 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: tells you zone coverage, right. There's different ways you can 390 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: manipulate the coverage by moving guys like that around. So 391 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: I do think time Montgomery gives them that angle, But 392 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: no one's James White at the top of the route. 393 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: He was definitely somebody that just devastating for linebackers underneath 394 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: the defense trying to cover him on those option routes 395 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: out of the backfield. Yeah, you know, think interesting to 396 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: me was talking about how tough twenty four team was 397 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: for him as as that red shirt year, and I 398 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: know people bring that up a lot as, oh, that's 399 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: just what the Patriots do. You mentioned pass protection as 400 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: something that rookies need to learn, but I think James 401 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: gotta shed some light on you know, it's it's not 402 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: easy to go from, you know, as he said, being 403 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: a key player in college too. You know, you're on 404 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl team, you feel like a bit player. 405 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: Shane Vereen was there, caught a number of passes in 406 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, you know, and then and then really 407 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 1: you look at that second year with White and he 408 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: was extensively targeted in that playoff game in Denver, and 409 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: I know it was, you know, frustrating game for a 410 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: lot of people, but all all seemed to kind of 411 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: turn around then that next season, and of course culminated 412 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: with his performance in the Super Bowl. So speaking of 413 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: of Super Bowls, there's there's Jay let Mills, someone we 414 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: saw on the other side of the field on a 415 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: Super Bowl in twenty seventeen. But he's having an awesome camp. 416 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's kind of a universal thing. 417 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,959 Speaker 1: You're hearing guys talk about him wanting to take the 418 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: next step. He was real active yesterday, seemed to be 419 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: playing with confidence. It's a huge key for the Patriots. 420 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you lose j C. Jackson. I don't think 421 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: anyone was really expecting Jaylen Mills to step up and 422 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: take a new step as a veteran. And you know, 423 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: we'll see once we get to the vet into the 424 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: regular season how much of a real step that is. 425 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: But so far in camp, Jaylen Mills has been, you know, 426 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: one of their best players on a defense that's obviously 427 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: playing great throughout. I think anybody's top five list he 428 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: would have to be on, you know, for the entirety 429 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: of camp, you know, for whatever that's worth. Yesterday he 430 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: was one of the best players on defense. I would say, 431 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: probably the best, you know, considering you know, it's DJ Moore, 432 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: you know, occasionally it's it's Robbie Andrews. Something they're not 433 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, they're not stiffs as wide receiver. DJ Moore 434 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: is is a really gifted receiver, and I thought, you know, 435 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: it really showed up late when they would do in 436 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: something the two minute and I had talked about how 437 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: the Patriots is probably a little disappointed they weren't able 438 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: to execute a little better in there two minute. Well, 439 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: the Panthers couldn't executing there's largely because of Jalen Mills. 440 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: You know, he knocked away a couple of passes in 441 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: the end zone at the end of that session and 442 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: then they ultimately ended up with a deflection on the 443 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: last play for an interception by Sean Wade. But I've 444 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: really thought Jalen Mills was outstanding yesterday. Yeah, no offense 445 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: to Patriots wide receivers, but DJ Moore is the best 446 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: receiver he's faced so far in training camp. So to 447 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: see him go out there and go toe to toe 448 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: Dj Moore and Robbie Anderson too, which he I think 449 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: he spent about equal time on both of those guys. 450 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: It seemed like it late in practice it was more 451 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: Dj Moore in that two minut trial. But I think 452 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: what you saw from Jalen Mills is and what he 453 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: spoke about last year or two is that the Patriots 454 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: have a nice scheme for cornerbacks where they really simplify 455 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: things and you play to your leverage, you play man coverage, 456 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: and it's really just a much more streamlined way of 457 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: doing things, so it's not overly complex and what they 458 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: do in this back end, believe it or not, and 459 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: they're able to keep guys in their comfort zone. So 460 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: even a guy like Jalen Mills who's not necessarily a 461 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: player that people look at as a Stefan Gilmour and 462 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: his prime or Darrell Reeves or someone like that, the 463 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: way that they are able to coach it. And this 464 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: is why they've had such great success at that position 465 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 1: with guys, you know, like Malcolm Butler, like j. C. Jackson, 466 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: is because they're able to really keep those guys in 467 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: the position to succeed. And it seems like they're doing 468 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: the same thing so far, at least this camp. We'll 469 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: see what they get into game planning and into the 470 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: regular season, but so far, it seems like Jalen Mills 471 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 1: is in a groove with what they're asking him to do. 472 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of it is that they 473 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: don't put too much on those guys plates even though 474 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: the players lined up across from them are talented, they're 475 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: able to help them, They're able to allow them to 476 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: leverage things against the safeties and make it a little 477 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: bit easier on them. Well, of course it's uh, you know, 478 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: DJ Moore is very good, but I think he's only 479 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg this year. And it'll start 480 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: next week when we head out to Vegas and get 481 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: a little glimpse of Davante Adams Hunter Renfro I mean 482 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: that receiving corps. I think that's an even tougher task. 483 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: So we'll see how he does there. As we're seeing 484 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 1: some of the Patriots really starting to trickle in here, 485 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: more of the Panthers over there. Uh, then we got 486 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: Josh Bledsoe, another guy who, uh, you know, it's been 487 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: involved a lot. Curious how he's gonna stick now. That 488 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: seems like Jabrill Peppers is becoming a little bit more 489 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: involved as we saw yesterday. Uh, Nate Whaland, I mean, 490 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: these guys are you know, really trying to make an 491 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: impression here the next couple of weeks. This is their 492 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: their time to shine and at least earn a practice 493 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: squad position perhaps, But you know, Nate Whealand I mean 494 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: not to not to you know, not that we need 495 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 1: to go into a whole discussion to him, but I 496 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: just feel like he's made some plays. He looked kind 497 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: of fast out there at times. It's like, you know, 498 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: he kind of gets gets in the mix. So you 499 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: come in late, you know, after camp starts, obviously you 500 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: are facing extremely long odds to stick around. But he's 501 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: been he's been active. I've noticed him. Yeah, you know, 502 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: I don't want to be just I don't want to 503 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: disparage other guys, but I've noticed him more than I've 504 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: noticed some other guys that have been on the team 505 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: for a year or two. Yeah. I think his play speed, 506 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: his ability to to get into some space too, maybe 507 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: will translate to the kicking game as well. And as 508 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: a player that's going to make the team, as what 509 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: the worth of the fifth linebacker, maybe on the depth chart, 510 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: he's definitely gonna have to contribute on special teams to 511 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: have any chance of having a role on game day. 512 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: So maybe he is a player that can be another 513 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: one of those special teams guys. And I know it 514 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: feels like they have a lot of those guys sometimes, 515 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: but when you start to look at Matthew Slater and 516 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: Justin Bethel and Cody Davis, three guys that are getting 517 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: up there in age, and you start to have to 518 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: start looking for that next generation, if you will, of 519 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: special teams aces and maybe a guy like Will and 520 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: maybe a guy like even Bledsoe I think can play 521 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,239 Speaker 1: in the kicking game as well, can contribute in that. 522 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: But I wonder with Bledsoe if he's one of those 523 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: guys that look great the first week or so of 524 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: camp and then all of a sudden, Jabriel Pepper starts 525 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: to come on and some thing's happening, and then by 526 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: the end of camp or not even talking about him 527 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: on the roster anymore. I don't mean that he's done 528 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: anything wrong, but it just seems like he's that kind 529 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: of player. And then you retroactively go back and you say, oh, 530 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: he was out there so much because there were other 531 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: guys missing, and you know he's still yeah, And I 532 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: do think that Bledsoe is still probably you know, projected 533 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: as a special teams guy. With the depth and the 534 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: veterans that they have at at that position, he's looking 535 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: at being fifth probably, you know, so he's you know, 536 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: if he's going to carve out a role. Would him 537 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: most likely be in the kicking game. But I thought 538 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: Evan said it right, like, it's not like he did 539 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,239 Speaker 1: anything wrong. When he's been given opportunities, he's generally been 540 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: in the right spot. And there's mister Mac Jones trotting 541 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: out for another day, a joints. A nice day for 542 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: Mac yesterday, had some passes downfield. Davante Parker becoming, you know, 543 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: a target. It seems like he's got some trust in him. 544 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: Jakobe Myers continues to just catch everything kind of thrown 545 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: his way. Quiet maybe first couple of days before pads, 546 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: but I think has been really consistent. I thought Parker 547 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: had one of the lines of Camp when he was 548 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: talking about that. He was kind of led to it. 549 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, but he said, you know, the fifty fifty balls, 550 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: you know his mentality, those are more like eighty twenty 551 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: balls for him. It's it's I mean, it seemed like 552 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: it in camp here some of the some of the throws. 553 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess we're you know, a little spoiled, 554 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 1: not not really having a guy that that really is 555 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: good at those lately. And he certainly is good and 556 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: has come down with his fair share, and uh yeah, 557 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: so guys, I I I'm not sure exactly what's going 558 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: to be different about today, but I mean I'd like 559 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: to see just a little more of the same. You know. 560 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: That's Uh, it's just so much to look at. It's 561 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: hard to take in, and you wish you could kind 562 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: of go back and watch each kind of section individually. Um, 563 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: but we don't get the film up here. We don't 564 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: get to We only get to see what we see. 565 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: And uh, just so we know, we don't want we 566 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: don't want to break down the practice film, but I'll 567 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: leave that. But it was but it's tough. There's it's 568 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: hard to know where to look, and you know, you're 569 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: intrigued by just getting a chance to see some of 570 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: these these Panthers stars, I mean other NFL players. No 571 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: offense to the Patriots, but we watched them every day. 572 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: We get used to watching these guys. We kind of 573 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: know what they have. And then you know, I saw 574 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: some clips yesterday online of Christian McCaffrey in some of 575 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: these drills, and I mean, he's just a lot. I 576 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: would say he passed the eyeball test. You know, we 577 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: have a thing you know if we always talk about 578 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: like every once in a while, like you hear about guys, 579 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: and you don't get a chance to see these players 580 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: like this, like this close on the field, and then 581 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: sometimes you seem like, wow, you know, he's not quite 582 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: as whatever as you expected. He was every bit as 583 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: whatever you expected. I mean, just he just really fluid, fluid, 584 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: smooth athlete. Yeah. It's funny you say that because I 585 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: was on the phone with my my dad yesterday and 586 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: he's like, how's practice. I was like that, Christian McCaffrey 587 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: is incredible. Yeah, I mean just the way that he 588 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: he runs. He's so incredibly efficient with the way that 589 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: he moves, and it's like he's gliding. It's almost, yeah, exactly. 590 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: It doesn't look like he's running that fast, but he's 591 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: running by everybody, so you can tell that he is moving. 592 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: And he's just a specimen. I mean, I don't want 593 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: to get that too all, you know, crazy about it, 594 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: all right, all right, all right, settle down, sell down. 595 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: But he room fantastic. I mean that just to me. 596 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: I honestly, you look across the league. I all respect 597 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: in the world for Derrick Henry. I think McCaffrey when healthy, 598 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: is the best back in the league. Oh you missed 599 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: it when we saw Derrick Henry in person with Deuce 600 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I was down there for that one too, 601 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: and he wanting a room. But McCaffrey's ability, I mean, 602 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: we saw it yesterday in the two minute drill he 603 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: beat uh. I think it was Juan Bentley on like 604 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: a corner route from out of the backfield. Yeah, Derek 605 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: Herry is a great player, but Derrick Carry does not 606 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: bring that element from the for his game. Totally different 607 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: kind of player. Yeah. Maybe Alvin kamaras in that category 608 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: I think as well. But his ability, I mean, he's 609 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: legitimately a guy that can go for a thousand and 610 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: a thousand in a season. I remember having a conversation 611 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: with Jarad Mayo about Camara coming out of college. And 612 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: this is before Mayo came back as a coach. He 613 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: was still working in the media at that time, and 614 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: he just couldn't you know, he's a Tennessee guy, you know, 615 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: Mayo from Tennessee. He just couldn't understand why no one 616 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: was given a stronger look to Kamara. And I you know, 617 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: I like to watch college football, not necessarily as a scout, 618 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: I like to watch college football. Yeah, then there's guys 619 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: randomly that stick in my head from games that I watch, 620 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: and obviously you watch a lot of SEC games, Um, 621 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, and guys stick out to me. No, I don't, 622 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't pretend to be Bill Belichick trying 623 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: to say, well, that guy has a skill set that 624 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: I know translates to the NFL. I just watched guys 625 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: and say that guy can play. And Kimara was one 626 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: of those guys. I couldn't understand why no one was 627 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: on him in that draft process, and certainly he's proven 628 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: that to be the case. Yeah, Mayo was so complimentary 629 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: of him. I forget who the coach was at Tennessee 630 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: at the time, but the book on Kamara was that 631 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: he was extremely underutilized at Tennessee in that backfield, and 632 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,959 Speaker 1: it was he didn't have a ton of touches in college, 633 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: so there wasn't a ton of tape of him in general. 634 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: But obviously the tape that was out there was fantastic 635 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: and much different than McCaffrey, who could have won the 636 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy at Stanford and was excellent in college. So 637 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: that with McCaffrey, there was. Obviously there was some concern 638 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: about his athleticism and his ability in space to really 639 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: translate that to the next level, but obviously that that 640 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: has not been an issue. I was how little glimpse 641 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: there of a Patriots great. Dan Copen former center three times, 642 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: helped Super Bowl champ. Yeah, and Teddy Bruski down there again. 643 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: So it's a continues to be a revolving door of 644 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: Patriots alumni. I mean I missed a couple of those yesterday. 645 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: I did not see Nikovich. I didn't mention him in 646 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: my uh my rundown. He was out here yesterday evidently 647 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: went into my buddy Mike Reese. Yeah, there's there's Bruski 648 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: and his son Captain of fian this year as well, 649 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: and then as well, as I'm being in form Mike 650 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: Mayaka back again. We talked about Mayak yesterday, and uh, 651 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: you know when Fred, you know, just missed him because 652 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: you know where's he who's he work for? I don't 653 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:31,959 Speaker 1: know Fred, He's just he a watch him. I think 654 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: my favorite thing about these former offensive linemen like Sebastian Vollmers, 655 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: when they get their like real guy body outside of football, 656 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: they stopped, you know, doing all the heavy lifting, and 657 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: I mean Sebastian Volmer, you probably wouldn't even recognize him. 658 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: I mean you you probably Paul got more up close, 659 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, with him as a player when he was 660 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: you know, six seven three twenty, I mean how big. 661 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: And I mean now he looks like I mean in shape. 662 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: I mean probably not. He was always kind of more 663 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: of a lean tackle than than what you would probably expect. 664 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, now he looks like he's in really good 665 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: shape in terms of that coping. Similarly, it's just you 666 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: walk around these guys, you just feel like it's a 667 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: different They're just done a different level in terms of size. 668 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: But then once they get out it seems a little 669 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: bit a little bit closer to normal. And yes, we 670 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: got the reps out here. We're starting to break up 671 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: a little bit as the team's getting ready to stretch. 672 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick having a conversation with Matt Patricia out there 673 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: swinging his whistle as he is wont to do. It's 674 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: a favorite Bill Belichick and Nelson Agilor, who also there, 675 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: had a pretty strong camp as well. So plenty of emails. 676 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: We'll get to those in a minute. We'd love to 677 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: hear from you guys, though, please give us give us 678 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: a call at eight five five Pats five hundred and 679 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: give us a call. Let us know what what you 680 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: want us to be on the lookout for web radio 681 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: at Patriots dot com. Send us an email, let us 682 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: know if you're here. Looks guys, not quite as packed 683 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: as it was yesterday, but certainly a good show out 684 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: here for the last training camp practice. Maybe the weather, Paul, 685 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: sorry to bring that up again. Maybe effective today. I mean, 686 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: I don't know why that the beaches are open, you know, 687 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: as you know Gillette meetings, friendship correct. Alex is somewhere 688 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: saying I don't even know what they're talking as Kendrick 689 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: Bourne is back in practice after yesterday, a little scuffle 690 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: got in there and got in the midst pretty quick, 691 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: but hopefully they put that stuff behind them. And there's 692 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: Big Mike, who you know and when you his rookie year. 693 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: I just remember being here fortunately during COVID, which was bizarre. 694 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: There's no fans or anything, but just take a note 695 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: to him immediately, Big Mike walking out, I mean, he's 696 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: it seems like after some questions, maybe some rotation early 697 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,959 Speaker 1: in camp at that right guard spot, it seems kind 698 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: of like on when you is settled in, they're not 699 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: really playing with him too much anymore. Yeah, during one 700 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: on ones, I would say, other than maybe Trent Brown 701 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: Mike on When who's been the most consistent lineman that 702 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: they've had in those types of drills, he does not 703 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: get beat very often in a one on one situation, 704 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: And I think that that's something that you have to 705 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: take into account, maybe even a little bit more at 706 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: times than the run blocking scheme fit type of stuff, 707 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: because eventually you're going to have to execute a drop 708 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: back passing game and you want the best pass protectors 709 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: in there, and he's cleaning wall up there with Trent 710 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: as one of the best pass protectors that they have. 711 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: So it's pretty impressive to watch him and how he's 712 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: able to move, you know, on his edges and get 713 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: his feet moving side to side and some of these 714 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: pass rushtrils that they do where it's it's one on 715 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: one and the defensive lineman or edge defender they're just 716 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: pinning their ears back right. There's no there's no threat 717 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: of a run, there's no fake, there's no nothing. It's 718 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: just straight up the field and he's able to really 719 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: wall a lot of these guys off. Now I'm noticing 720 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: here Maca looks like he's got like a sleeve on 721 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: today on his right arm. I'm not sure. I'm not 722 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: sure if that's a you know, for some soreness or something. 723 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: But always we're always well aware of any contraption or 724 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: sleeve or boots or any anything that changes. And of 725 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: course the starting quarterback. But but he had a nice 726 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: day yesterday and Bailey Zappy maybe maybe he'll get some 727 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: action today, didn't really see much as much as Appy. 728 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's what the preseason games for, right, No, Yeah, 729 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: And and it was like again, that just magnifies that 730 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 1: opportunity he got early in camp um, which I hammered 731 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: home in the broadcast, But just you know, how many 732 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: times does a rookie get an opportunity to get as 733 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: many reps as he did during that stretch where Brian 734 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: Horrier was off the practice field. So now you know 735 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: you see him how rare it is because Horrior has 736 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: been back and you've seen very little of Zappy. It 737 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: looks like the Patriots are working on some some kickoff return, 738 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: a little walk through. Panthers are doing some walk through 739 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: offense on one end and looks like defense on the 740 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: other end. So this is usually what you get a 741 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: little bit of a walk through before things get going, 742 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: and then they'll head into the stretch. So let's let's 743 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: jump over to the emails here for a minute and 744 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: we see what the what the fans are wondering. Uh. 745 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: Connor bar writes in pretty simple question, Now, do you 746 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: guys think Taekwon Thornton will be a starter this year? Well? 747 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know, like starter like he does 748 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: that mean he has to be on the field on 749 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: the first play? Do I feel like he'll I think 750 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,959 Speaker 1: he'll be part of the offense. I don't know how 751 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: to label him starter number three weeks. I think he'll 752 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: have a chance to be a contributing player on offense. 753 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: I think he's done. I think he's done enough in 754 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: camp to earn that, to earn an opportunity. Sure seems 755 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: like he changes the offense with his speed. I mean 756 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: it's just it's it stands out. Uh. There's another one 757 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 1: from Marco. He writes in and he says, uh, question, 758 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 1: do you see the Patriots in the mix for Roquan 759 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: Smith in a trade? Or what are you willing to 760 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 1: give Myers in the first round pick be enough. And 761 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: he's a big fan, especially at Paul. So there you go, Paul. 762 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: When young people, I love Roquan Smith, I do. I 763 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: think he's a terrific player. I don't think the Patriots 764 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: would give up a first round pick Um and Jacobe 765 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: Myers for him. That would probably get it done. The 766 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: first round pick would probably get it done. Right. Well, 767 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: the issue is that you also have to pay them. Oh, 768 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: I have no problem with that. So you have to 769 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: give him a new contract, and you're giving up the capitol. 770 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: The way that they've treated the linebacker position in recent 771 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 1: years tells you that they're just not going to invest 772 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: a ton at that position. And I don't necessari really 773 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: blame them for it. Just the way that the league 774 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: is being played now and with all the passing and 775 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: things like that, that that true middle linebacker might not 776 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: have the same value in today's NFL that had had 777 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: maybe twenty years ago. So I don't see them paying 778 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: Roquan Smith the top market deal and giving up a 779 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: first round pick to get him. And I'm not so 780 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: sure I'm too interested in it either. Well, we got 781 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: another one here from Dylan, and he's wondering, do you 782 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: guys know if Mac has been named to captain yet 783 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: or when that might happen. I think captain's come usually 784 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: toward the end of preseason, so we got another couple 785 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: of weeks. But I would be absolutely stunned if he's not, 786 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: and I was stunts last year that he wasn't. So 787 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: who knows, Evan, this might be one for you. And 788 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: it's a good question because it's something I don't really 789 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: feel like I've gotten a good look at him in camp. 790 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: Dwight French writes in just wondering where you see the 791 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: Canadian Drew descharlais fitting in? Is he a practice squad player? 792 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: Do you think or does he have a chance of 793 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: the fifty three? We mentioned a little bit right guard. 794 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: They're playing with it a little bit and it seemed 795 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: like he was, you know, getting some B level reps. 796 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: But you know, what have you seen out of him 797 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: in one on ones? Anything that impressed you? I would say, 798 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: practice squad. I don't really see him making the fifty 799 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: three man rosters the way things stand right now, He's 800 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: had some issues in one on ones. He sees maybe 801 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: the play speed or the explosiveness of some of these 802 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: guys give him some problems. I don't necessarily think that 803 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: he's been awful by any means, but I just don't 804 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: think that he's going to be a guy that's going 805 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: to make the fifty three. I got a good one 806 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: from Marcus and I think, you know, we talked a 807 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: lot about Trey Flowers, and he said, you know, were 808 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: there any free agents out there you might consider the 809 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: Patriots signing before the regular season. Um, I mean these 810 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 1: are tough questions because there's just I mean, there's literally 811 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of guys out there that you could, 812 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: you know, potentially consider. But I know Trey Flowers was 813 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: a popular name that that people were considering. But based 814 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: on what you've seen from the defense at this point, 815 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: I mean, unless you were saying maybe upgrading the right 816 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: defensive end on, you know, think he's better than Utrich. Yeah, 817 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: that's that's the that's the question I personally, the last 818 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: I saw of Flowers, I do think he's better than 819 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: Juture twice. But maybe he's not anymore. You know, I 820 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 1: haven't seen him a couple of injury plague seasons up 821 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,760 Speaker 1: in Detroit. I don't know, if he's that guy anymore. 822 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: And you know, Wise was outstanding yesterday. So yeah, I 823 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: mean I'm always interested in adding some depth, but I'm 824 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: not sure that that's I think that we get these 825 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: questions a lot, and it's always you know, who can 826 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: they get? Who can I don't think you're getting difference 827 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: making players, you know, in the middle of August. I 828 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: just we added the ro Kuan Smith question earlier too. 829 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: You're right, Paul, that people love to ask these types 830 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: of questions, right who can they sign? Who can they 831 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 1: trade for? Who can they get? Honestly, with the way 832 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 1: that they look defensively now, I would like to just 833 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: see them carry this group into the season and see 834 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: what they can get out of guys, even like Anthony Jennings, 835 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 1: who's had a nice camp, maybe he's finally coming into 836 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: his own or back from that injury in college and 837 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: back to his normal self. I would much rather at 838 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: this stage, based off the guys that you're going to 839 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: get right in the conversation there, go into into the 840 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: season and see what you have with this group. Obviously, 841 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: if a number one corner, true number one corner like 842 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: Stefond Gilmore level player comes available, than maybe you make 843 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: a move like that, but these low level signings back 844 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: at the roster signings, I would just rather give the 845 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: guys that have been here or those chances. Yeah, and 846 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm not you know, it's not one of those absolute things. 847 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: I understand that you can get a disgruntled player, you know, 848 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: like the role quant Smith situation. Yeah, sometimes you can 849 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: get a talented guy who becomes available for a variety 850 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: of reasons. And that's how they got to keep to Leap. 851 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: That's the one that always stands out to me with 852 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: this group in particular, because you look at this secondary 853 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: it does I think it will be better based off 854 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: of what we've seen, but it does give you some 855 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: twenty ten, twenty eleven vibes and of the way that 856 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: it's built. And then to Leap came in in twenty 857 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 1: twelve and completely changed the whole complexion of that defense. 858 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 1: I still feel like that's the move, and that's probably 859 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: going to come closer to the trade deadline if it 860 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 1: does happen, But that's the move that I would look 861 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: for them to make to actually add a legitim and 862 00:38:55,520 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: impact player. Is well, eventually somebody like that free for 863 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: some whatever reason contractually or we saw Jalen Ramsey move. 864 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: We saw a lot of guys get moved that have 865 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: a ton of talent at the cornerback position. Yeah, that's 866 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: a Russell Russell O'Gorman in Arkansas. Following up and you know, 867 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: similar to you see the Patriots trading for a veteran 868 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: corner If there was a position you think they might 869 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: be a little bit light at what spot do you 870 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: think they might look to at make an addition? You know, 871 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: maybe it cut down over that. It seems like over 872 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 1: always over that. I mean it's a it's a Tuesday 873 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: now instead of the week labor day, weekend, but it 874 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: seems like they always pick up a guy or two. 875 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: You know, in the shuffle of people making final cutdowns. 876 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: Is there a particular position you think they might be 877 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 1: a bit little light up? Perhaps tackle? If we don't 878 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: see Isaiah Wynn and Justin rumback, I think they could 879 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: use some depth on the offensive line. Yeah, that's a 880 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: that's a spot I think cornerback. And we talked about 881 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: Williams and Butler. I think that kind of represented your 882 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: depth there. Um. I don't think it's a killer, but 883 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you lose a Jalen Mills. Yeah, 884 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: and you're saying, oh, we don't have a veteran that 885 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: we feel comfortable plugging in now, So I guess a 886 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: couple of spots. Yeah, I would say corner. But ultimately 887 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: I think that their depth in a lot of places 888 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: is actually okay. It's it's maybe looking for guys that 889 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: have more top end talent. I don't think there's any 890 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 1: real depth. I totally agree with Evan on that's what's 891 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: the point of really going out there and trading for 892 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,240 Speaker 1: a guy that's comparable to Terrence Mitchell when you already 893 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: have Terrence Mitchell on the roster, right, So it's not 894 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: necessarily about getting guys like that. Like wide receiver I 895 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: think is another position. Maybe Taekwon ends up being that guy, 896 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 1: so they don't necessarily need to chase it. But they 897 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: have a lot of really good two through four depth 898 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: at wide receiver, maybe even two through five if Taekwon's 899 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: a player, So you don't necessarily need more depth at 900 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: wide receiver. But obviously, if one of these disgruntled veteran 901 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: white dust as we've seen with Tyree Hill and Davante 902 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: Adams and all these guys that have been moved in 903 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: the last couple of years at that position. If one 904 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: of those guys comes available, you're still looking for that 905 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: bona fide number one guy in your offense. So maybe 906 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: that those are the types of moves, But again, I 907 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 1: would just rather see them go into the season with 908 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: some of these death pieces that have performed well in 909 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,439 Speaker 1: training camp. If one of those moves comes available, then great, 910 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: If not, let's just see what these guys got. Yeah, 911 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: especially when you have, you know, time invested in these guys, 912 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe on paper a player might look 913 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: like an upgrade, but at the same time, you got 914 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: to consider that that player doesn't really know what he's doing, 915 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: hasn't been here for training camp, and you know, I 916 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: think that does factor in. And a little bit of 917 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: NFL news to share. I think it's interesting Derwin James 918 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 1: and the Chargers, according to Adam Schefter, have agreed on 919 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 1: a four year, seventy six point four million dollar extension, 920 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: which averages nineteen point one one million a year. We 921 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: talk about the Patriots safety depths. That's quite a deal 922 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 1: for Derwin James, certainly a great player in their secondary, 923 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: and jac Jackson joining him. You look at the Patriots 924 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: having five safeties, though, I think maybe maybe we might 925 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: be looking at them going down to a couple more 926 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: that I don't know if they're going to be in 927 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: the market, but jer Bo Peppers somebody like him who's 928 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: on a one year deal, certainly if he goes in 929 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: balls out this year, it might mean a little bit 930 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: a little bit more dope for him. And he thought 931 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 1: on on Derwin James. We always talk about value at 932 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: the Patriots. I think if you add up the salaries 933 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 1: of the top four safeties on the Patriots, it equals 934 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: one Derwin James, and Derwin James a fantastic player. But 935 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: I feel like that's pretty I'm assuming that that's the 936 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 1: top of the market deal for Derwin James, resetting the 937 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: safety market. And I don't think Kyle Dugger is quite 938 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: yet on the Derwin James level. But you start to 939 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: think about his second contract and what that's going to 940 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 1: cost the Patriots. If he's going to stick around, he's 941 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: certainly going to be a player that's going to be 942 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: in the top ten, top fifteen of deals. You would 943 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: think at that position. Once that time comes, we're already 944 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 1: in what year three with Kyle Dugger, so it's not 945 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: too far off. He's only got one more year on 946 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: that rookie deal after this, and it's a four year 947 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 1: rookie deal, So we're not too far off from having 948 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 1: that conversation about an extension or a second contract for 949 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: a guy like Kyle Dugger. So it's always notable when 950 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: the top of the market gets set because now you 951 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: can at least get a little bit of a gauge 952 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: of what it might cost the Patriots to pay Kyle Dugger. Yeah, 953 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: they of course moved early last year, resigned Adrian Phillips 954 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: to an extension. I mean, Phillips was, you know, just 955 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 1: a slam dunk signing. But you talk about you got 956 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: Peppers here one year, you got two more years of Dugger, 957 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: you got a few more years of Phillips. Then you've 958 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: got Bledsoe waiting in the wings a little bit too. 959 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: So it seems like they've got, you know, kind of 960 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 1: long running depth at the safety position. Nothing that they 961 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: have to worry about. I think that they have to 962 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: go out and solve immediately. We got the Patriots continue 963 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: to do to walk through stuff. So we will get 964 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: back to showing you guys the on field action once 965 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: stretching begins and with that horn, that's about what's likely 966 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 1: to start. Just trying to give you a little bit 967 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: of an update here, and this is not official, but 968 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: I don't I mean, we saw very little of Hunter Henry. 969 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,839 Speaker 1: He left practice early yesterday. I do not see him 970 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: out there unless I'm missing him if you guys have 971 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 1: seen him. So there's one veteran at the tight end 972 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: group right now, one veteran that I have not seen 973 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,399 Speaker 1: out there. Otherwise we're looking at kind of the same, 974 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, justin Heran, Isaiah Wynn, and Bill Murray, the 975 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: three offensive linemen that are out so Evan, I want 976 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 1: to throw this one year away because I think you're 977 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: you're all over this guy. Ian writes in it, says, 978 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: is mac Wilson the solution for the sideline to sideline 979 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 1: linebacker this team has been lacking? Or is he a 980 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: stop gap until we find that guy? What do you 981 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: think his role is? I mean, I think you talk 982 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: about sideline to sideline, you're you're kind of inferring that 983 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: he's an every down middle linebacker, you know that's gonna play. 984 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: Probably not exactly what mac Wilson is though. What have 985 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: you seen on a mac. What I like about him 986 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 1: is that he does bring that explosive element to the 987 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,800 Speaker 1: passing game, whether it's in coverage or it's rushing the passer, 988 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 1: which honestly, you know, his coverage has been good too, 989 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: But I think blitzing has been where I've been the 990 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: most impressed with him. We saw it in the Thursday 991 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: night game against the Giants that he was able to 992 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: get a QB hit on Daniel Jones there early on 993 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: in that game as well, So he's been an impactful blitzer. 994 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: But he certainly can cover more ground in coverage and 995 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 1: you do some of the more stressful coverage assignments that 996 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: they have for linebackers in this defense. But ultimately, and 997 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 1: for better or worse, I still think that they are 998 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 1: going to really treat guys situationally, and I think Mac 999 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 1: Wilson fits into that category where he's a second and long, 1000 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 1: third down sub package type of player, and Ray Kawa, 1001 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: McMillan and Jowan Bentley are going to handle the early 1002 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 1: down stuff and I think that that's sort of how 1003 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 1: they look at it with a lot of these guys. 1004 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: The one guy that I hope that the few as 1005 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: an more expanded role player is Barmore, but I think 1006 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 1: at times we could see Christian Barmore even in that 1007 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: category as well, where he's really just in a passing 1008 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 1: downs type of roles. So I think that that's how 1009 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: they're looking at with this defense, with the depth that 1010 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 1: they do have, that they might be able to almost 1011 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: have like a rotation hockey lines, if you will, right, 1012 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,319 Speaker 1: based off of the package in the situation of how 1013 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 1: they're going to handle things, and I think mack Wilson 1014 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,439 Speaker 1: will be a passing downs guy out. I'm not sure 1015 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: if he's going to be an every down player. I 1016 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: think last year Jamie Collins's role was a little bit 1017 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: more of a passing down situational type of thing, and 1018 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 1: that's maybe where they see mack Wilson fitting in. Well, 1019 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 1: let's jump to the phones. Here. We got Eric in California. Eric. Hello, 1020 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 1: you are live on the training camp cash here. Well, 1021 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 1: good morning, doing We're no good. Just try to speak 1022 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:15,399 Speaker 1: up a little. We got some sound coming through right now. Yeah, 1023 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 1: I hear you, and you've been calling um a couple 1024 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: of years ago. Blind you didn't know you watching you 1025 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: guys kind of gotcha. Thanks, Eric, I'm gonna let you go. 1026 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 1: But I got the gist of it. Uh, you know, 1027 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: I think I think there's the big changes that you know, 1028 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: you had Gerad Mayo and you had Steve Belichick here, 1029 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: who are two coaches who you know had been on 1030 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. And so You're right. 1031 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,280 Speaker 1: There has been instances where they have not named official coordinators, 1032 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: but usually in those instances, they've had younger coaches that 1033 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 1: have kind of been being groomed behind the scenes. This 1034 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: is a kind of a different situation in terms of 1035 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia and more important with coaches that work on 1036 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: that side of the ball. Yeah, I mean, I know 1037 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:17,800 Speaker 1: everybody is fixating on the fact that they didn't name anybody. 1038 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: I don't care who they name. I don't care that 1039 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,359 Speaker 1: they name someone or not. I care that the guy 1040 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 1: calling the plays is an offensive coach or at least 1041 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 1: has experienced as an offensive coach. They don't have that. 1042 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,439 Speaker 1: That's why I'm concerned. I don't know about anybody else, 1043 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 1: but that's what I'm concerned about. Yeah, it's not comparable 1044 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 1: that anything that's ever happened for the Patriots. Yeah, I'm 1045 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: not too caught up in the play caller to be honest. 1046 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 1: With you, because I think that at the end of 1047 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 1: the day, the execution of the plays, in the design 1048 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 1: of the plays, is going to be more important than 1049 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: the sequencing of the plays. There's obviously something to be 1050 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,280 Speaker 1: said for the sequencing too, and it can be important, 1051 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 1: but if you have guys out there executing at a 1052 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: high level, you can pretty much call whatever you want 1053 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: and it's going to work. So I'm not necessarily too 1054 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: caught up in the actual play caller aspect of it. 1055 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 1: But what I am interested to see is what we 1056 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 1: saw on Thursday night in the preseason game. Is Matt 1057 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 1: Patricia stretched you thin? Is he wearing too many hats? 1058 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 1: Because you have him calling plays, him working the quarterbacks, 1059 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: him working with the offensive line. At some point in time, 1060 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 1: somebody else is going to have to pick up some 1061 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: of that slack. He can't be in three places at once, 1062 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 1: and to me, that's a bigger concern than maybe who's 1063 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: actually physically calling the plays on game day. And that's 1064 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,919 Speaker 1: why I've always thought that Joe Judge makes the most 1065 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: sense because he's got one role, and that's to be 1066 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: there with the quarterbacks and to coach the quarterbacks, and 1067 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: he doesn't have to worry about coaching up the line 1068 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 1: and coaching up the quarterbacks and calling the plays. He 1069 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: can just work with Mac exclusively call the plays and 1070 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: be the de facto play caller. And I think that 1071 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,879 Speaker 1: that's the way that it makes the most sense from 1072 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: an efficiency standpoint. But what we saw on Thursday night, 1073 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 1: and not that to look too much into a preseason game, 1074 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,359 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia might be better at calling plays, and if 1075 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 1: he's the best guy for the job, then you have 1076 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 1: to figure out the other pieces. And maybe it's Billy 1077 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,400 Speaker 1: A two ends up stepping up and handling the sideline 1078 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 1: responsibilities with the offensive lineman. Yeah. I think what was 1079 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 1: eye opening for me is just anytime you see footage 1080 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 1: of you know, Dante Scarnekia on the sidelines and you 1081 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 1: know everything that goes into coaching on the sidelines during 1082 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 1: the game and the keys that he was able to 1083 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 1: alert his guys too. So I mean, it certainly is 1084 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: an important game day operational role that you know you 1085 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 1: need from your offensive line coaches. But you know, I 1086 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,360 Speaker 1: just I would just say going into this season, I 1087 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: just I hope that you know, I think Pauls has 1088 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 1: touched on it well, that it's you know, it's unfortunately 1089 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 1: it's kind of the coaches in the firing line. But 1090 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: you know, I would hope at least, you know, in 1091 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: our analysis here when we're trying to break things down, 1092 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 1: that we're you know, trying to get to the root 1093 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 1: of it. Was it you know, was it Mac Jones? 1094 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 1: It was it? You know? Was it the play calling? 1095 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 1: Is it the you know, because I know what the 1096 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,319 Speaker 1: easy crutch will just be to blame the play calling, 1097 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,280 Speaker 1: which certainly it could very well um be the problem. 1098 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I don't think, you know, 1099 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,880 Speaker 1: I think people what we really really want to know 1100 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 1: is how is Mac Jones developing? You know, how is 1101 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: Mac playing? And you know, is this suiting mac um? 1102 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 1: You know? But I don't want to give him a repass. 1103 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,399 Speaker 1: At the same time, if if things are there, he's 1104 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 1: not seeing them and he's not hitting them, then I, 1105 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 1: you know, I think we need to we need to 1106 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: highlight that as well. But uh, it's it's certainly an 1107 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,919 Speaker 1: interesting situation going into the season, and you know, it's 1108 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 1: just something that is going to be talked about and 1109 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 1: critiqued and broken down and all that. And I do 1110 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 1: think given the history of it, that that that's you know, 1111 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,879 Speaker 1: something that's that's apt and worth discussing. It's, as I said, 1112 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 1: Mac Jones is just the most important part here for 1113 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: this team in their future. And I share Evans overall 1114 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 1: thoughts about play calling. I think it is in a 1115 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 1: lot of respects it's overrated the actual play call, and 1116 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: I agree with that. Um and a lot of coaches 1117 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 1: over the years have said that there's a booklet that 1118 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 1: comes out before before the NFL season. They give a 1119 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 1: lot of it's a lot of questionnaires, right, Um and 1120 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: a lot of different coaches, they ask what's the most overrated, 1121 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: and they'll say that the actual play call. Yeah, the 1122 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 1: play call in So I do agree with that, but 1123 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: I think that's among coaches that have called plays, right. 1124 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 1: I think that what I what I really liked about 1125 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: Josh was his sort of reservoir of backgrounds and being 1126 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 1: able to say, you know, two years ago, when we 1127 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 1: were struggling doing X against a scheme that was doing why, 1128 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 1: this is what we did to fix that. Excellent adjustments, 1129 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 1: you know, and this is and this is how we 1130 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 1: get by, you know, you know, after two after two 1131 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: straight three and outs, this is what we did to 1132 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,320 Speaker 1: fix that, Right, and I don't know that. You know, 1133 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator and a special team's coach are going 1134 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 1: to have that reservoir of knowledge to fall back on 1135 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 1: when things are struggling. It's not about the play call. 1136 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 1: It's about understanding what what you want to do at 1137 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: a particular time. Yeah, he feels back to Super Bowl 1138 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 1: fifty three, when they're geting nothing going offensively, he draws 1139 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 1: up that play on the sideline to Gronkowski or he 1140 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,919 Speaker 1: blocks and then releases. They essentially said after that game 1141 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 1: that Josh drew that up like in the dirt, like 1142 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 1: you do in the playground, and said this is what 1143 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna do. And that was were the types of 1144 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,800 Speaker 1: things that McDaniels is at. I know a lot of 1145 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: people with McDaniels would get caught up in like the 1146 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 1: draws and the screens. On third day he got killed 1147 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,839 Speaker 1: in excellent play caller and he was really good at 1148 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 1: it was seeing the bigger picture of I'm gonna I'm 1149 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 1: gonna start doing this early on in the game because 1150 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,360 Speaker 1: we know in the fourth quarter we're gonna go to 1151 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 1: this and we're gonna have this look established so that 1152 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,839 Speaker 1: we can go back to something that's gonna pull one 1153 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 1: over the defense later on in the game. So you 1154 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 1: talked to coaches around the league, you talk to guys 1155 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 1: that really no offensive football, and McDaniel's name in terms 1156 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 1: of his situational play calling, his play designing obviously has 1157 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 1: been was fantastic too. It's it's a big loss. It's 1158 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,359 Speaker 1: a guy that that really knew was in my mind, 1159 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 1: probably a top five offensive mind in football other than 1160 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,360 Speaker 1: you know, the Shanahan tree. You know Shanahan and McVay 1161 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 1: and Andy Reid I think is up there as well. 1162 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 1: But he's one of the better offensive minds and football. 1163 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,359 Speaker 1: So replacing him is not going to be easy. Well, 1164 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 1: we've been We've been joined by Tamara. She's up from 1165 00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,839 Speaker 1: her duties down below on the field level. Hey, Mike, 1166 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,759 Speaker 1: what's going on? Give us a report tomorrow out from 1167 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 1: down the sidelines. How what's the mood down there today? 1168 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,240 Speaker 1: So my first report before I forget, is that Dakota 1169 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 1: Trapton is a big fan of Patriotson Filter. He ran 1170 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,800 Speaker 1: into me downstairs and he was like, is Mike nearby? 1171 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 1: I was like, uh, he was like do you So 1172 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,320 Speaker 1: he was like, I love Patriotson Filter. He was like 1173 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 1: are you Tamar, And I was like, yeah, what's your name? 1174 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: And he gave us his name and I was like, 1175 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,759 Speaker 1: I'll definitely mention that when I get up there, I'll 1176 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 1: tell Mike you said hello, you didn't want Paul. Sorry, 1177 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 1: that's nice. That's It's always great to hear from the 1178 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 1: end of the show. Very happy to fly under the radar. 1179 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 1: He said that, you know, a friend recommended it to 1180 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 1: him and he's been listening ever since. That's awesome. Well, 1181 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:43,839 Speaker 1: I wonder if he's got in your butt in there 1182 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 1: listening to lie from our bird and the sky perspective. Hello, 1183 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,279 Speaker 1: hello out there. Um, yeah, that was my first time 1184 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:54,880 Speaker 1: meeting someone who listens to the show. So that was 1185 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,360 Speaker 1: a fan and no autographs yet. That asked for you, 1186 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: Mike asked for you, Mike Fan, you call me Mike. 1187 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a real fan, Mike Fan. 1188 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 1: Gottaduced me. Uh what else? What else going on there? 1189 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 1: How is any any energy reports? Just after the little 1190 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,920 Speaker 1: bit of you know, things boiled over a little bit yesterday, 1191 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 1: seems like guys were chatting a little bit, I mean 1192 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 1: in a friendly way. I think the storm has passed, 1193 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,360 Speaker 1: both um literally and figuratively. I think the rain, you know, 1194 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,920 Speaker 1: has passed hopefully for us for practice, and I think 1195 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 1: also yesterday seems to have been left in yesterday from 1196 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,319 Speaker 1: the from the mood that I felt coming off the field. Yeah, 1197 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,399 Speaker 1: I will say this just observationally. About five minutes ago, 1198 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: after the warm up period was over the calisthenics, the 1199 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 1: stretching and all that, the Panthers gathered in the middle 1200 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 1: of the field as in their entirety the whole team, 1201 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,399 Speaker 1: and my guess is Matt Rule had one final let's 1202 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 1: knock off the nonsense from yesterday. Um, let's not have 1203 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,920 Speaker 1: any of that spill over out here today. I mean, 1204 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm just speculating, but they didn't do that yesterday before 1205 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 1: the practice. They did it today. No fighting, no fighting, 1206 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,360 Speaker 1: no fighting. Little players only huddle yesterday where they're you know, 1207 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,359 Speaker 1: you see players before games and stuff like you dear 1208 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 1: a little hype up right, This was the whole team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1209 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 1: I talked to Damian Harris a little bit after practice, 1210 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 1: kind of just you know, asking him how it went, 1211 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,759 Speaker 1: and he's just like, no barking. I didn't hear you barking, um, 1212 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 1: but he mentioned he was like, you know, he was. 1213 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 1: I was really excited, excited to play football, so I 1214 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,800 Speaker 1: was a little bit upset. You know, we had, you know, 1215 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 1: all that extra stuff happening around. So he's looking forward 1216 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 1: to today hopefully, you know, being a little bit more 1217 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 1: competitive football only no drama. Yeah, well we'll see. Let's uh, 1218 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 1: let's let's one other guy. I don't see Mike. And 1219 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 1: if you guys see do you see ya Durant? Numbers 1220 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 1: have not seen seven, which you know, and I bring 1221 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 1: that up again because now that you're talking about three tackles, 1222 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,359 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, not in in uniform. So it's Trent Brown 1223 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,360 Speaker 1: and yad Ny could just um or bust. So you 1224 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 1: probably see a little bit more of Arlington Ham. Right. 1225 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 1: You didn't see Trent Brown. I did. I did see 1226 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 1: Trent Brown. I didn't see yr Cia Durant, Isaiah Wynn 1227 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,320 Speaker 1: and Justin Harunt. It was three tackles, not in uniform. 1228 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 1: Do you wonder at what point too, when it starts 1229 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 1: to get some run. I don't like him at tackle, 1230 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,880 Speaker 1: I know, I mean I don't. I don't really like 1231 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 1: him in there. I think he's more suited for the inside. Again, 1232 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm not an expert at the offensive line. I let 1233 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 1: you guys do that in your own time. But I 1234 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,920 Speaker 1: don't think that he has the mobility to play out there. 1235 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:20,319 Speaker 1: I don't think he has the quickness to handle edge rushers. Um. Yeah, 1236 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 1: I think he's more of a maller. Are there any available, 1237 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 1: I guess, um, guys out there who aren't signed, who 1238 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 1: can potentially take their place if need be. Probably that 1239 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,279 Speaker 1: was the most That was the most Paul answer. It 1240 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,920 Speaker 1: was it was we need an offensive line? Can we 1241 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:46,759 Speaker 1: get one? Yeah? Probably, I should say one that offensive line, 1242 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 1: like you know how you said, like you know the 1243 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,040 Speaker 1: Derwin James. You know that's probably top of the market. 1244 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 1: I don't mind paying top of the market for elite 1245 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 1: talent at you know, a position like that. I do 1246 00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,480 Speaker 1: mind paying top of the market for an offensive tackle. 1247 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,960 Speaker 1: He's bet he better be Orlando Pace if I'm setting. 1248 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 1: If I'm setting the market, so you wouldn't pay Trent Williams. No, no, no, 1249 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:13,320 Speaker 1: that's no for me too. No. No, oh, something brewing, 1250 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,280 Speaker 1: something brewing here. I don't know if I can agree 1251 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,040 Speaker 1: with that. Day. I think he's an excellent tackle. You 1252 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 1: mentioned Orlando Pace. He might be yea Jonathan Outen. You 1253 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 1: know a guy that's going to be a fixture for 1254 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 1: fifteen years and be the best, the best that he 1255 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 1: that you know of a generation. Sure, I'll pay for that, 1256 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 1: But the rest of them, to me, I think it's 1257 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 1: kind of like kicker, the difference between the best and 1258 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 1: the worst is so small, like yeah, well, I'm but 1259 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 1: but I don't know. I don't want to name any names, 1260 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 1: but we've seen some bad tackle play at times over 1261 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 1: the last twenty plus years, and it gets pretty bad 1262 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 1: when some of them, some of them might make ten 1263 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 1: million a year. I do I mean, I do think 1264 00:57:54,880 --> 00:58:00,120 Speaker 1: though it speaks to I do think it speaks the 1265 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,960 Speaker 1: point though that you know, you can't pay every position, 1266 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 1: and you gotta pick you know which ones you where 1267 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 1: you might might skimp a little bit, and you know 1268 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,920 Speaker 1: is one that you don't skimp on? Is? I mean? 1269 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 1: Left tackles are highly paid in the league and in 1270 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 1: general it's an important spot. So Paul, you saying that 1271 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 1: reminded me of the opening of The blind Side when 1272 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 1: Sandra Bullock is describing, you know, Lawrence Taylor coming through 1273 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 1: the line. Who's like, because of Lawrence Taylor, now this 1274 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,479 Speaker 1: position is now the most valuable position on the team. 1275 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:33,320 Speaker 1: Michael and so when you were talking about that left 1276 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 1: tackle being the most valuable, I was thinking about, Wow, 1277 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,160 Speaker 1: this sounds like literally the opening of my favorite movie. 1278 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,959 Speaker 1: I love that movie. I like that movie. Here's a question. 1279 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 1: And I like the Disney movies. Sometimes they get me. 1280 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 1: Sandra Bullock is the best. I'm biased, you know, Paul. 1281 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 1: You see I'm watching something other than Handsome. I think, hey, 1282 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 1: Morrel Morrell, I think we need just generally for tomorrow, 1283 00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 1: we need the lawn order, a little you know, a 1284 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,720 Speaker 1: little hick dude, the stingy, like just whenever she makes 1285 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,440 Speaker 1: a point or something, you know, just bang that one. 1286 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 1: That's actually really good. I think we need to address this. 1287 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 1: Paul Austin from NC he's writing and he says, Fred missing. 1288 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 1: You know, as of late, has the boss Man gotten 1289 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 1: too big for us? Is he somewhere in the stadium 1290 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 1: spilling something on a shirt? Do we need to start 1291 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 1: putting his face on milk cartons? We need Fred and 1292 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 1: the Fred. Paul Panter couldn't agree more. Yeah, he's he's 1293 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 1: he's got a lot going on. But something is lacking 1294 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 1: when the boss Man is missing. Yeah, it's and something 1295 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 1: that isn't lacking is me talking too much? Probably, but hey, 1296 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 1: we gotta do what we gotta do. We're all we're 1297 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 1: all busy, so hopefully, hopefully it's not detracting too much 1298 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 1: from the enjoyment. But I will think he'll almost fall 1299 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:44,600 Speaker 1: down coming out. Oh no, and jeez, the last thing 1300 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 1: that guy needs so much so that he's joining again. 1301 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,040 Speaker 1: Uh So, yeah, they were just getting a little bit 1302 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 1: of a little bit of positional drills right now as 1303 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,479 Speaker 1: we're getting started before some of the more interesting action 1304 00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 1: kick into gear and then we'll all lose our minds 1305 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,960 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's going on. Let's go back 1306 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,920 Speaker 1: over here to the emails. Of course, Claire, she's got 1307 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 1: to ring in. Claire. I don't have a Ryan at 1308 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 1: update for you right now, so we'll have to wait. 1309 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 1: We'll do a right up on that after a full 1310 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 1: you know, Ryan ISZ breakdown. But um, what do you 1311 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 1: think Pat's we'll have with tight end three? And who 1312 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,919 Speaker 1: may at BC? I think it's an interesting question because 1313 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 1: yesterday with Hunter Henry out, you saw Devin Asiassi get 1314 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 1: a little bit of opportunity. I didn't really think he 1315 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 1: did much, and again Hunter Henry fully out today, so 1316 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 1: you know, if you're Devin Asiasi your three, you've kind 1317 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,960 Speaker 1: of been waiting for an opportunity. Today is kind of it. 1318 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 1: Yesterday and today is kind of it. I mean, I 1319 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,120 Speaker 1: feel like today he's a guy that that that needs 1320 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 1: to play well, he's gonna get an opportunity. They've been 1321 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,840 Speaker 1: running plenty of two tight end stuff. So I don't 1322 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,720 Speaker 1: want to say it's now We're never for Devin Asiassi. 1323 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 1: But in your three, how long's Hunter Henry gonna be out? 1324 01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:48,880 Speaker 1: We don't know. I don't know. I don't know for 1325 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,000 Speaker 1: sure that any any tight end three has a spot 1326 01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 1: locked up. But we talked about Socol yesterday and he's 1327 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 1: actually been okay too. When I think of Asiasi yesterday, 1328 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,400 Speaker 1: the first thing that came to mind was the fumble 1329 01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 1: that happened right in front of us. Like it's those 1330 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 1: type of opportunities. It's like you really can't give them 1331 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,439 Speaker 1: any fell on it exactly. And so I'm hoping today 1332 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 1: that one he doesn't fumble, but too that he makes 1333 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 1: the most of his opportunity with Hunter Henry out again. 1334 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 1: So Evan, I know you think you've been there a 1335 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:13,880 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and I know you think I'm you know, 1336 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 1: I tend to be a little pessimistic. I'm gonna tell 1337 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,320 Speaker 1: you what. I'm gonna tell you what I thought of it, 1338 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 1: Devin Asi. Yes, Yes, And the thing that stuck out 1339 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 1: to me was the touchdown that he caught from Brian 1340 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 1: Hoyer and the two minute drill to close practice. I 1341 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,680 Speaker 1: thought it was Paul. I thought it was one of 1342 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 1: the better offensive plays they ran in the two minute. 1343 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,840 Speaker 1: Both guys, the two minute was a little clunky. That 1344 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 1: was a really well executed play. It was an excellent 1345 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 1: passion and it was a great It was a great 1346 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,600 Speaker 1: It was a great throw from Hoyer. But Lass, you know, 1347 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 1: looked very smooth. I don't think there's any I don't 1348 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 1: even think it's close. I think there's a chance that 1349 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 1: none of them make it is the third guy, and 1350 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 1: maybe they use Jona and Smith sort of in a 1351 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 1: hybrid kind of thing. But if you're gonna take three, 1352 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 1: one of those three, to me, ASSISI is head and 1353 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,959 Speaker 1: shoulders the option. Yeah, I'll still go back to over 1354 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,560 Speaker 1: Keen and so go back to his twenty twenty tape two, 1355 01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 1: where he was actually pretty solid as a run blocker 1356 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 1: when they really had to give him the opportunity to 1357 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,840 Speaker 1: play his rookie season, and I think as a receiver, 1358 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 1: you see some of the things in his breaks and 1359 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:13,840 Speaker 1: his ability to get open at the top of the 1360 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,960 Speaker 1: route that you like. And I agree that maybe he 1361 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,120 Speaker 1: needs to finish plays a little bit more consistently, like 1362 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,280 Speaker 1: Tamara was saying, But overall, I like what I've seen 1363 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,320 Speaker 1: out of Devin Aassiossi as a third tight end. I'm 1364 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,960 Speaker 1: not saying he's Rob Gronkowski as a depth guy. I 1365 01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 1: think that he's somebody that that can serve that role. 1366 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:33,200 Speaker 1: But you worry about Hunter Henry last year, knock On 1367 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,480 Speaker 1: Wood really lucky with injury, luck and all that sort 1368 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,520 Speaker 1: of thing based off of the past in his career, 1369 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 1: So you have to have some depth there because you 1370 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,400 Speaker 1: never know if that's going to run out on you. 1371 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,640 Speaker 1: Dare I say little Jordan Humphrey maybe in a big 1372 01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 1: tight end type of iah, do you see that kind 1373 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 1: of a skill set. I think that he's at his 1374 01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,360 Speaker 1: best when he's inside and he's running the seam, and 1375 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,480 Speaker 1: that's what we saw out of him against the Giants. 1376 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 1: And we were talking to Nick Kaylee the other day 1377 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 1: during assistant coach availability and he was saying that because 1378 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,280 Speaker 1: they only had SOCCLE active in that game, they had 1379 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 1: to actually cross train little Jordan a little bit on 1380 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 1: tight end. Look what I did that I got on 1381 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:15,240 Speaker 1: tight end because they just they had to play some snaps. 1382 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:19,480 Speaker 1: They couldn't make SCCLE play the entire game, so they 1383 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 1: they had a little bit of Little Jordan playing the 1384 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:26,040 Speaker 1: why on Thursday night against the Giants and they here 1385 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 1: why not just real quick on that, you know, And 1386 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 1: I felt like Assias was the pick over SOCLE and 1387 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 1: UM team without question. If you go your route with Humphrey, 1388 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,120 Speaker 1: this is a Bill Belichick isn't that He's used many 1389 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,200 Speaker 1: times in the past. It's not about necessarily the positions 1390 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,920 Speaker 1: and stacking the positions. It's about finding a way to 1391 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 1: keep the best players right you can. He might think 1392 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,240 Speaker 1: that little Jordan Humphrey is a better player than Devin Asias. 1393 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,720 Speaker 1: He certainly had a really strong camp. And like I said, 1394 01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,680 Speaker 1: you know the the zero blitz at the end of 1395 01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,400 Speaker 1: the game where Zappy got him the touchdown, just to 1396 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,640 Speaker 1: seem run right right up the seam, get over the 1397 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,440 Speaker 1: top of the guy and make a play on the football. 1398 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,480 Speaker 1: He has that skill set. We actually saw it in 1399 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:10,000 Speaker 1: practice right before the Giants preseason game where he and 1400 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 1: another seam ball and I think it was Hoyer that 1401 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 1: that split two defenders to get the ball in too. 1402 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 1: Little Jordan, I don't love when he's on the outside. 1403 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 1: I don't think that that's where he's going to succeed 1404 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL. But as that jumbo slot move tight 1405 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,160 Speaker 1: end piece, I think that he's got some value in 1406 01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 1: that type of role. And it's another bigger receiver which 1407 01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,000 Speaker 1: they could probably but I don't know about him as 1408 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,000 Speaker 1: his ability to block. You know, it's a third tight end. 1409 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,280 Speaker 1: You're probably gonna need to have that now. I've also 1410 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,920 Speaker 1: seen a little Arlington ham Bright lining up as an 1411 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 1: extra tackle at least one day. They're definitely gonna want 1412 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,280 Speaker 1: that in their in their back pocket. The six oh 1413 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,120 Speaker 1: line is definitely not going anywhere, and I still catch 1414 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 1: there by Kendrick Bourne, right, it's just another minute or 1415 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,200 Speaker 1: so a video, so get it while you can. He 1416 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:49,920 Speaker 1: here's some of the warm ups. We will be going 1417 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 1: though to all audio for the rest of practice, so 1418 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,200 Speaker 1: don't go anywhere you just you know, won't get to 1419 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,720 Speaker 1: see the pictures of them practicing in our beautiful faces 1420 01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,720 Speaker 1: up here on the side of the stadium. Mike, you 1421 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,280 Speaker 1: mentioned Kendrick Bourne, So now that that has me thinking 1422 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,640 Speaker 1: of how today is valuable for him. Yeah, and I 1423 01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,920 Speaker 1: think that because he's been so quiet throughout camp. You know, 1424 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,920 Speaker 1: I was really looking forward to him yesterday having an 1425 01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,720 Speaker 1: opportunity to compete against the Panthers defense and you know, 1426 01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 1: see where he is. But obviously that was cut short 1427 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,720 Speaker 1: with him being removed from practice, and so now that 1428 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 1: he's back, I'm hoping to actually see like the Kendrick 1429 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 1: Corn that we see in the game maybe show up today. Well, 1430 01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 1: I was thinking about that a little bit, Yestermary, I'm 1431 01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,440 Speaker 1: glad you brought that up, because you know, an impression 1432 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,240 Speaker 1: I have from watching these practices is that it seems 1433 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,760 Speaker 1: like they have a set group of plays for Jonas Smith, 1434 01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,800 Speaker 1: they have a set group of plays for DeVante Parker. 1435 01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 1: It certainly seems like Jacoby Myers and situations is one 1436 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,440 Speaker 1: of the main targets that they're going for, even Agalore. 1437 01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that they have specific stuff designed for him, 1438 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,479 Speaker 1: but we've seen them go for him. I just haven't 1439 01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,760 Speaker 1: seen them design anything where it feels like we want 1440 01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,120 Speaker 1: to make Kendrick Bourne a focal part of this offense. 1441 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,720 Speaker 1: It feels like he's almost the third or fourth option 1442 01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,440 Speaker 1: that they never really get to in a lot of 1443 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,680 Speaker 1: these practices. And you know, I'm going to think of 1444 01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,200 Speaker 1: anything and we'll say quick goodbye to everyone on video, 1445 01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,360 Speaker 1: thank you for tuning in, but stay with us. We 1446 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,520 Speaker 1: will be continuing live. But um, but that's my thought 1447 01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,240 Speaker 1: on him. That's you know, it's just you see, like 1448 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,760 Speaker 1: out here, especially yesterday, it's like they want to get 1449 01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,000 Speaker 1: John Smith involved, Like they're having him do a number 1450 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,400 Speaker 1: of different things like well, let's not say too much 1451 01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:23,840 Speaker 1: when they hand the ball to a player weekend, that 1452 01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 1: would have been a law and order what easy. But 1453 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,040 Speaker 1: we are getting into some team drills now. Um. But 1454 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:31,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, do you guys have any thoughts on that. 1455 01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,120 Speaker 1: It's just it's surprising how how just the lack of 1456 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,760 Speaker 1: involvement and seemingly the lack of um, you know, just 1457 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 1: plan to get him involved. But I will say too 1458 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 1: with him like not being involved yesterday because he was 1459 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,640 Speaker 1: in the locker room, we saw more of Trey Nixon, 1460 01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,920 Speaker 1: Like Trey Nixon had a couple of catches, So I'm like, 1461 01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 1: would that have been Kendrick Bourne's opportunity right there. I mean, 1462 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm getting a little concerned about Kendrick Bourne. I'm not 1463 01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:56,920 Speaker 1: gonna lie, yeah, because he's had a little bit of 1464 01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,840 Speaker 1: a weird go of it here. I'm not saying that 1465 01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:01,400 Speaker 1: you not going to make the team or anything like that, 1466 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,840 Speaker 1: but you start to think about he had that offseason 1467 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,280 Speaker 1: media availability where he kind of gave away a little 1468 01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,600 Speaker 1: bit too much of the state secrets with the playbook, 1469 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:13,800 Speaker 1: and he comes out here yesterday. He doesn't really have 1470 01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:15,920 Speaker 1: a great training camp to start. He comes out of 1471 01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,320 Speaker 1: here yesterday there was something to do with his equipment 1472 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 1: or something like that that the referees were getting on him, 1473 01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,160 Speaker 1: and Building got on him about it, and then he 1474 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,920 Speaker 1: starts throwing punches and get gets kicked out of practice. 1475 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,280 Speaker 1: It's just been a really bizarre way front of it. 1476 01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,400 Speaker 1: And I thought, and I thought, listen, the fight was 1477 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:37,280 Speaker 1: ridiculously unnecessary all around. I thought Carolina didn't let it go. 1478 01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,160 Speaker 1: It looked like some reports said that a coach was 1479 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,760 Speaker 1: sort of involved with yeah, with Christian Wilkinson. So I'm 1480 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,400 Speaker 1: not excusing Carolina's side of it, but I think it 1481 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:50,360 Speaker 1: was largely over and Kendrick Bourne like reignited it and 1482 01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 1: that's how he got his trip off the field. So 1483 01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,200 Speaker 1: a lot of the guys that were down there were 1484 01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,920 Speaker 1: saying Bill was really unhappy with the equipment thing that 1485 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,320 Speaker 1: the referee sent him off on the second play of 1486 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:06,920 Speaker 1: eleven on eleven, Bill was really unhappy about that. You know. Again, 1487 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,439 Speaker 1: it's like Damian Harris said, you know, I think TV 1488 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,000 Speaker 1: you mentioned this when you were talking about, you know, 1489 01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,440 Speaker 1: after practice, how excited he was. He was like, you 1490 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,720 Speaker 1: can't fight in the game, you can't fight in practice. Yeah, 1491 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's pretty simple, and unfortunately you saw a 1492 01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,680 Speaker 1: lot of guys sort of forget that yesterday. And I 1493 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:27,120 Speaker 1: know that tempers run hot, it's not something, but how 1494 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:28,760 Speaker 1: many times have you seen something like that in the 1495 01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,880 Speaker 1: game field where it doesn't escalate to punches being thrown 1496 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,840 Speaker 1: like that. It's a rarity to see something like would 1497 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,439 Speaker 1: happen with Indianapolis and the Patriots last year when Kyle 1498 01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,280 Speaker 1: Dugger was involved in one of those things. But that's 1499 01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,080 Speaker 1: a rarity. You see it all the time when practice, 1500 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 1: when you have the joint practices. So I think these 1501 01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 1: guys sometimes they think they're in practice they can do 1502 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,200 Speaker 1: these things. Yeah, I mean, Paul, my question to you is, 1503 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen the Patriots Jalen Mills on DJ 1504 01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,680 Speaker 1: Moore again, by we start interrupting, that's a good job 1505 01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,240 Speaker 1: of coverage. We've seen the Patriots in the past not 1506 01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:01,280 Speaker 1: necessarily cut or trade a player, but phase a player 1507 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:06,680 Speaker 1: out of what they're doing offensively, defensively, and it have incentives. 1508 01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,200 Speaker 1: Oh sorry, that's a different show if if he's not 1509 01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:13,840 Speaker 1: if he's not doing the things that they want him 1510 01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,120 Speaker 1: to do, that you know, behind the scenes in his 1511 01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,960 Speaker 1: attitude and all that kind of stuff. We've seen it 1512 01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:20,560 Speaker 1: in the past with them that you know, player that 1513 01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:21,840 Speaker 1: you thought was going to be a big part of 1514 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,439 Speaker 1: things ends up not being as big. And I hope 1515 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 1: that's not going to be the case with Kendrick Bourne. 1516 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,120 Speaker 1: But it's just been a really bizarre couple of months. Yeah, 1517 01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,480 Speaker 1: and and I agree, I mean, it's it's probably premature 1518 01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 1: to suggest that, you know, we're at that point right now, 1519 01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,040 Speaker 1: but just something to keep an eye on if it 1520 01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:38,839 Speaker 1: ends up being a slower season or you know, these 1521 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:40,760 Speaker 1: are the signs and people say, well, what did you 1522 01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:42,640 Speaker 1: see in the summer, Well, that's what we've that's what 1523 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,679 Speaker 1: we've seen in the summer. I think, you know, evan 1524 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,200 Speaker 1: sort of chronicle three or four different things that are 1525 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,719 Speaker 1: possibilities as to why we haven't seen more from Kendrick 1526 01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,680 Speaker 1: Bourn so far on the practice field. Any speculation what 1527 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,720 Speaker 1: the equipment thing could have been, like what what does 1528 01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,760 Speaker 1: that like? Wrong socks or something look like the knee 1529 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,720 Speaker 1: path like you have to have pads in Yeah, and 1530 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,479 Speaker 1: maybe he didn't. All right, Well, we're gonna take a 1531 01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,040 Speaker 1: quick break here. We've been going for a little bit. 1532 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:07,479 Speaker 1: We'll try to catch up on what's going on in 1533 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,160 Speaker 1: the field. 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All right, we are 1624 01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:41,920 Speaker 1: back here at Chillette Stadium watching joint practices, and we're 1625 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,080 Speaker 1: doing some kickoff work here, So probably a good time 1626 01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,400 Speaker 1: to maybe go to the emails a little bits as 1627 01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:51,080 Speaker 1: they're getting ready for some more team sessions. You know, 1628 01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:52,960 Speaker 1: I like your boy, Pierre Strong. Just got a chance 1629 01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,000 Speaker 1: to return one of those kicks. How Pierre Strong. There 1630 01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:59,000 Speaker 1: we go. Hey, guys, this one's from Jeremy Right saying, hey, guys, 1631 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:00,599 Speaker 1: love the show. Do we have any if Bill has 1632 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,599 Speaker 1: replaced Ernie Adams or has has his position been phased out? 1633 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,120 Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting question, guys. Not Patricia was 1634 01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:07,599 Speaker 1: kind of that guy last year, and so we talked 1635 01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,240 Speaker 1: about how does Matt Patricia divide up between offensive line 1636 01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,760 Speaker 1: and it's still play caller. What's he gonna do? Yeah, 1637 01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:14,760 Speaker 1: it's still part of his title, So he's got a 1638 01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,840 Speaker 1: in theory he could be consulting on the offensive line, 1639 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,639 Speaker 1: helping Bill out and call him the plays. I'm not sure. 1640 01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how that would that's all gonna work out. 1641 01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,439 Speaker 1: But I think it's it's a it's an interesting concept. 1642 01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,880 Speaker 1: You always had Ernie and Bill's ear, kind of the 1643 01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:33,800 Speaker 1: Consolierre moments, situational. It's it's probably Ernie was was a 1644 01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,240 Speaker 1: unique kind of character. You don't replace Ernie Adams. No, 1645 01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,800 Speaker 1: I just think that what he provided. I don't. I 1646 01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,479 Speaker 1: don't think that you just go and put a want 1647 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:46,840 Speaker 1: ad It's you know, um savant, you know genius, like 1648 01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, clock management expert personnels. You could do that, Paul, 1649 01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,559 Speaker 1: I really think you could do that. You I've never 1650 01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:55,519 Speaker 1: met anyone more in tune with the call out. I 1651 01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:59,000 Speaker 1: am good at timeouts, clock managements. I am good at 1652 01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,600 Speaker 1: clock management. I will say that. But I also have 1653 01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,160 Speaker 1: never had to do it in the heat of battles. 1654 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:11,160 Speaker 1: I think it just so. The one guy I will mention, 1655 01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:15,040 Speaker 1: Evan Rothstein, who Matt Patricia brought with him from Detroit, 1656 01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,200 Speaker 1: is on his staff in Detroit now. I think he 1657 01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,439 Speaker 1: called plays Todny briefly when like everybody got cod Yeah, 1658 01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:24,960 Speaker 1: so he was. His title in Detroit was football research, 1659 01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:28,799 Speaker 1: which is what Ernie's title essentially was for the degree. 1660 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,080 Speaker 1: I look at him as more of an analytics guy. Yes, 1661 01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:35,360 Speaker 1: and what he was Ernie. It's funny because it was ernielytics, 1662 01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:39,280 Speaker 1: right Like. It wasn't what I'm saying. It wasn't find 1663 01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,320 Speaker 1: a guy like that. It wasn't analytics in the sense 1664 01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,840 Speaker 1: of like pro football focus, right, but he was still 1665 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:48,720 Speaker 1: doing the tendency that he would find by combing through 1666 01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,600 Speaker 1: tape and padding plays and figuring out what teams like 1667 01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:55,280 Speaker 1: to run. Is its own form of analytics. It's just 1668 01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,400 Speaker 1: the way that Ernie and Bill did it instead of 1669 01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:01,160 Speaker 1: what maybe didn't term like you know, win probability models 1670 01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,400 Speaker 1: and fourth down decision making. What it's really become just 1671 01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:06,880 Speaker 1: did you just come up with Ernie lytics on the 1672 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:12,720 Speaker 1: spot right here? Used that? That's pretty good. I would 1673 01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:17,400 Speaker 1: have liked it better if it was organic, because I 1674 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,439 Speaker 1: have had this debate with people in the past that 1675 01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,519 Speaker 1: tell me that the Patriots don't use analyts. I'm like, 1676 01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:24,800 Speaker 1: what are you talking about? They of course they do. 1677 01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:26,760 Speaker 1: They just use their own form of it. It's not 1678 01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,000 Speaker 1: what we you know. I think people hear the word 1679 01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,800 Speaker 1: analytics and they think of you know, Staley and the 1680 01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,760 Speaker 1: Chargers and the fourth down probabilities and stuff like that. 1681 01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,040 Speaker 1: They don't necessarily do it like that. But the Malcolm 1682 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:42,680 Speaker 1: Butler interception against the Seahawks is their form of analytics, right. 1683 01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,280 Speaker 1: They studied their the red zone tape and we're able 1684 01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:49,800 Speaker 1: to come up with So that's that's what I That's 1685 01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:51,960 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about when I when I say Ernie 1686 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:53,840 Speaker 1: lytics is some of the things that they were able 1687 01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,479 Speaker 1: to be there. And I think there's a lot of 1688 01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,760 Speaker 1: things that are just sort of considered analytics that are 1689 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:02,840 Speaker 1: just well, don't confuse analytics with scouting, right, right, Like 1690 01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,679 Speaker 1: Ernie Adams and I remember this is one hundred years ago. 1691 01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,640 Speaker 1: As always, my stories never never evolved around like the 1692 01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,000 Speaker 1: last five years now, because that's no fun. Like a 1693 01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:13,800 Speaker 1: hundred years ago, Lee Johnson was the punter here, and 1694 01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:16,800 Speaker 1: I remember he's telling us a story. He's like, you know, 1695 01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,800 Speaker 1: I saw him punting and practiced and this this this 1696 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,360 Speaker 1: old guy with like these huge glasses on him. He's 1697 01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,599 Speaker 1: just he's just watching me kick and he just keeps 1698 01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,680 Speaker 1: watching me every single single kick. And I was like, 1699 01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:29,519 Speaker 1: what is this guy looking at? What does he do? 1700 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:34,240 Speaker 1: That's what Ernie Adams did. He's watching for tendencies, you know, 1701 01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:36,080 Speaker 1: where does the ball go? How does it come off 1702 01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,400 Speaker 1: his foot? What does this spin like? Is it tough 1703 01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,439 Speaker 1: to catch? I think that's one of the reasons why 1704 01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,200 Speaker 1: Bill liked to have left footed punters. They felt like 1705 01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,439 Speaker 1: it was a little bit more difficult from returners to 1706 01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,800 Speaker 1: handle because it wasn't a spin that they you know, 1707 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,920 Speaker 1: they field it as often. So little things like that. Yeah, 1708 01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,200 Speaker 1: that's analytics, but it's it's scouting. It's just and I 1709 01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,640 Speaker 1: don't think you can necessarily find that out a spreadsheet. 1710 01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,600 Speaker 1: It's it's something that you sort of discerned watching and 1711 01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:04,160 Speaker 1: through experience. Yep. Oh, well, we'll continuing to work on 1712 01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,479 Speaker 1: kickoffs here. I don't know where this barbecue chokes set up, 1713 01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:08,920 Speaker 1: but I can sure smell it. And uh, that's making 1714 01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,360 Speaker 1: me very very I thought I saw something coming in 1715 01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,719 Speaker 1: over here when you guys were down hyping up the crowd. 1716 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:17,000 Speaker 1: Oh oh yes, yeah, yeah, whipping them up into a lather, 1717 01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:21,840 Speaker 1: you know, and and maybe this is a good time. Wait, Mike, 1718 01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,360 Speaker 1: I was literally about to say, what's worse the barbecue 1719 01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,479 Speaker 1: that you're smelling or the duncan that's down at the 1720 01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,840 Speaker 1: media time. Now you're open. I was just gonna say, 1721 01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,120 Speaker 1: I think it's the perfect time. Thank you to our 1722 01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:34,479 Speaker 1: friends from Duncan today they provided us with numerous donuts. Uh. 1723 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,400 Speaker 1: And it's it's the forever New England donut. It's right 1724 01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,800 Speaker 1: back out, just in time for the Patriots season. And 1725 01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,679 Speaker 1: it's it's a classic. It's the vinyla frosted with sprinkles. Guys. 1726 01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,599 Speaker 1: I I think this is an excellent donut. And uh, 1727 01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:47,200 Speaker 1: maybe we could do a taste test a little bit later. 1728 01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:51,599 Speaker 1: I think if you want excellent donut, good first step, 1729 01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:55,479 Speaker 1: you know, lateral lateral quickness, it's gonna have a good 1730 01:20:55,560 --> 01:21:00,400 Speaker 1: forty time right through my system. And now big By 1731 01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:06,400 Speaker 1: Brendon's schooler take him the schooler. Oh yeah, that's like Gillan. 1732 01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,519 Speaker 1: It's gonna start some the Brendon school or hit on 1733 01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:13,280 Speaker 1: the on the kick returner was was a good good 1734 01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:17,800 Speaker 1: shoulder pop by schooler. Yeah. I think there was an 1735 01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,599 Speaker 1: overreaction of the Patriot's sideline down here to a block 1736 01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,800 Speaker 1: over here. I didn't think that there was anybody upset 1737 01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:27,720 Speaker 1: on the block that was downfield. Yeah, but this is 1738 01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:29,479 Speaker 1: where like, this is what I was talking about in 1739 01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:32,360 Speaker 1: in West Virginia a couple of years ago. This is 1740 01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:36,280 Speaker 1: the stuff that elicited the scrums. The country roads take 1741 01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:40,240 Speaker 1: you home. Oh yeah, that's right, Samary got it. We 1742 01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,000 Speaker 1: all got it. We just ignored it. What are we 1743 01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,040 Speaker 1: doing special teams all the time here? Let's go on 1744 01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,200 Speaker 1: your own time. People. Well I just did have a 1745 01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,360 Speaker 1: bite of the Nona. Guys. It was excellent, as you 1746 01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:52,000 Speaker 1: would expect all Duncan donuts to be sprinkles, are just 1747 01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:55,120 Speaker 1: frosting sprinkles. However, one of them does have a hole 1748 01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:57,040 Speaker 1: in the middle. The other is more shaped like a jelly, 1749 01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:58,720 Speaker 1: but there's nothing in the middle of it, so you're 1750 01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:03,719 Speaker 1: getting some extra bonus to the middle. Oh, somebody's somebody's 1751 01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:10,080 Speaker 1: knocked out. Oh gosh, someone's down, somebody down hard. What 1752 01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:14,240 Speaker 1: happened there? Why? I don't understand why the Patriots is 1753 01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:20,679 Speaker 1: coming over. Somebody's hurt. Yeah. I wonder if if joint 1754 01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,760 Speaker 1: practices will be looked at differently. This is like every 1755 01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,280 Speaker 1: play there's there's like jarring back and forth. I didn't 1756 01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:30,400 Speaker 1: see who the Patriot player was, but I saw the hit, 1757 01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:34,920 Speaker 1: and my guesses, well, there's no flag like they've been 1758 01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:39,160 Speaker 1: throwing flags left and right. Yeah, so I don't know 1759 01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,479 Speaker 1: if it was blind side hit or something. Was it 1760 01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:45,679 Speaker 1: a blind Yeah, I have no idea. I didn't see it. Yeah, 1761 01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,560 Speaker 1: it looked it looked to me like it was a 1762 01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:53,400 Speaker 1: blind side hit, but it wasn't, you know, an illegal 1763 01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,479 Speaker 1: blindside hit, if that makes sense. I just don't think 1764 01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,560 Speaker 1: the player that is down was was really looking in 1765 01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:02,439 Speaker 1: that direction and he got popped. Obviously hard to tell. 1766 01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,160 Speaker 1: Cam a quarters in the middle of it, kind of 1767 01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:08,519 Speaker 1: making sure cooler heads prevailed. Matt rule over there as well. Uh, 1768 01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,080 Speaker 1: Patriots players making their way back to the sideline. But 1769 01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:15,720 Speaker 1: I'd tell Kendrick Bourne to get out of there after yesterday. Uh, well, 1770 01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,120 Speaker 1: we'll let you know who it was. Unfortunately, it looks 1771 01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:25,040 Speaker 1: like he has he's conscious. This is like, yeah, one 1772 01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:27,200 Speaker 1: leg is up. That leg wasn't up before. Yeah. I 1773 01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,400 Speaker 1: thought they got him over on his back. That's a 1774 01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,400 Speaker 1: good sign. I mean, it's uh, you don't want to speculate. 1775 01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:34,200 Speaker 1: I came to it late. I just saw him lying 1776 01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,160 Speaker 1: on the ground. It looked like knocked out. I saw 1777 01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:37,720 Speaker 1: him on the ground. He did like he looked like 1778 01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,559 Speaker 1: he was he was out, like he wasn't really wasn't 1779 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:44,080 Speaker 1: moving much. His legs are moving now up and down. Um, 1780 01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,280 Speaker 1: his panthers team's chippy. Uh, no question, there's been a 1781 01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,720 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of might be cheap. I don't 1782 01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:51,559 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to comment. I didn't see 1783 01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:53,360 Speaker 1: the hit, but I just want to step away from 1784 01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,960 Speaker 1: like this is all the Panthers. That's what I read yesterday, 1785 01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:57,960 Speaker 1: Like somehow this was all the pit like there was 1786 01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:59,720 Speaker 1: a lot of there was a lot of feistiness on 1787 01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,120 Speaker 1: the old yesterday and you had Schooler. I mean, I 1788 01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,240 Speaker 1: mean this is connected to what happened with Schooler a 1789 01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,040 Speaker 1: couple of days ago. Yeah, he just mean he just 1790 01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,400 Speaker 1: popped the returner And I didn't have any problem with 1791 01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:10,360 Speaker 1: they hit the Schooler had. By the way, I think 1792 01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:12,320 Speaker 1: that was very similar to what the defensive backs with 1793 01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:15,040 Speaker 1: the Panthers were doing yesterday. Shoulder. It wasn't like this 1794 01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:20,840 Speaker 1: big kill shot. It was just a shoulder. Yeah, it 1795 01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:24,080 Speaker 1: looks like their play and think he's sitting up now. 1796 01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,960 Speaker 1: I still can't figure out who it is, but they're 1797 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:33,439 Speaker 1: getting started now on some team team play with the 1798 01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:38,280 Speaker 1: Panthers working in the high red zone against the Patriots 1799 01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,400 Speaker 1: starting defense. Alright, it looks like they're going to get 1800 01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,200 Speaker 1: him up to his feet. We'll figure out who this is. 1801 01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:50,080 Speaker 1: And McCaffrey would not have gotten much. And now we 1802 01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:55,160 Speaker 1: got now this is this is, this is done. They're 1803 01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,120 Speaker 1: not going to be able to continue this practice. Every 1804 01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:01,720 Speaker 1: single play there's something going on going right into the 1805 01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:04,120 Speaker 1: fans section here. This is this is this is this 1806 01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,600 Speaker 1: is ugly. I mean, you gotta call it like it is. 1807 01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,800 Speaker 1: This is ugly. Can you guys get a number down here? Yeah, 1808 01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:13,280 Speaker 1: it was Wilkerson. Wilkerson was the one down who again 1809 01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:16,960 Speaker 1: was involved yesterday in the same scrum. And we've got 1810 01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,560 Speaker 1: a lot of the team over near the fans. This 1811 01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:22,920 Speaker 1: was a like it looked like just a stretch, a 1812 01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:26,000 Speaker 1: stretch inside handoff to McCaffrey, f R. Yeah, and Adrian 1813 01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:30,720 Speaker 1: Phillips maybe go to yard or two. At this point, 1814 01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,240 Speaker 1: everyone just suicide and really we don't want to pray. 1815 01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,040 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, everybody, uh, everybody was over 1816 01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,439 Speaker 1: on the sideline, on the Panthers and the Patriots and 1817 01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,880 Speaker 1: like like literally this is ridiculous. This you know, eighty 1818 01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:46,160 Speaker 1: I don't know eighty out of the eighty four guys 1819 01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:48,439 Speaker 1: in the Patriots uniform, we're over there. I mean, I 1820 01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:54,040 Speaker 1: just every play is is followed by an extended scrum 1821 01:25:56,120 --> 01:26:00,400 Speaker 1: so piculous. Bill Belichick Matt Rule together. Looks like they're 1822 01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:02,920 Speaker 1: hashing out whatever's going to happen next, but getting to 1823 01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:07,120 Speaker 1: the point where it's counterproductive. Yeah yeah, I mean, and 1824 01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,280 Speaker 1: and and we should say. I mean, Wilkerson walked off 1825 01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:11,840 Speaker 1: under his own power. He's now, you know, sitting down 1826 01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:13,880 Speaker 1: in a in a golf card. Looks like they're gonna 1827 01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:15,840 Speaker 1: probably take him to the training room. But good sign 1828 01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,240 Speaker 1: that he was able to step up and walk out. 1829 01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:20,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, just my speculation from what I 1830 01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:22,240 Speaker 1: saw it, just it seemed like he got knocked out 1831 01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:24,560 Speaker 1: and he looked like he looked like he was It 1832 01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:28,840 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, something with a head injury. So a 1833 01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:32,759 Speaker 1: little context on what happened on the return. Kenny Robinson, 1834 01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,840 Speaker 1: the player that Wilkerson got it into yesterday, is the 1835 01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,680 Speaker 1: one that cleaned out Wilkerson on the return on the 1836 01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:41,879 Speaker 1: play that Wilkerson got knocked out on. So Kenny Robinson 1837 01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,240 Speaker 1: must have taken the number and came back today and 1838 01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,200 Speaker 1: had something else to say. Yep, Well that was the 1839 01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,720 Speaker 1: guy that Wilkerson punched yesterday. That was the guy that 1840 01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:54,400 Speaker 1: Kendrick punched. Okay, so we're having the teams now, are 1841 01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:58,559 Speaker 1: gathering along the right field separately. Um, but I don't 1842 01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,599 Speaker 1: know what else needs to be said that that probably 1843 01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:03,320 Speaker 1: hadn't been said yesterday or prior to this practice. Today. 1844 01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,840 Speaker 1: It's also extending the practice, which is not an ideal. 1845 01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:10,280 Speaker 1: I don't mean to uh, Dietrich. Wise looks like he's 1846 01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:15,080 Speaker 1: being sent sent back to the showers. Which on the 1847 01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:19,880 Speaker 1: on the hit um on the hit on Wilkerson. No, 1848 01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:21,960 Speaker 1: actually it was the on the play before that where 1849 01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:26,240 Speaker 1: Schooler knocked over the the return man for the Panthers. 1850 01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:29,000 Speaker 1: Wise was the first one for the Patriots to go 1851 01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:32,160 Speaker 1: all the way across the field yelling at the Panthers sideline. 1852 01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,240 Speaker 1: So he's been really hot for the last ten minutes 1853 01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:38,200 Speaker 1: or so, and it doesn't surprise me that he was 1854 01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:40,920 Speaker 1: involved on that sideline. This is I don't know how 1855 01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:43,360 Speaker 1: you can get anything done. I mean, in all honesty, 1856 01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:45,439 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not one of these guys that all 1857 01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:48,080 Speaker 1: the violence, you know, offends me. Like it's football, But 1858 01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:50,320 Speaker 1: you're trying to get some practice work in and I 1859 01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:51,800 Speaker 1: don't see how you can get any work done if 1860 01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a fight after every play. And that 1861 01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,400 Speaker 1: was Damien. Damien's point when I talked to him after practice. 1862 01:27:57,479 --> 01:27:59,839 Speaker 1: He was like, I'm came out here to play football, 1863 01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:01,439 Speaker 1: came out here to get better, and I can't do 1864 01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,760 Speaker 1: that when this is what's happening on the field. Yeah, 1865 01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,120 Speaker 1: I would agree with that. It's just like how we're 1866 01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:08,639 Speaker 1: supposed to see where we're at if we can't even 1867 01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:11,479 Speaker 1: do anything because you guys are fighting that fight that 1868 01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:14,840 Speaker 1: just happened that now that they are huddling and trying 1869 01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,360 Speaker 1: to get control of things, that was just like, yes, 1870 01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:20,160 Speaker 1: I mean that was the same general size as yesterday 1871 01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:24,120 Speaker 1: with both teams running over and yeah, it's just at 1872 01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:25,920 Speaker 1: some point, you know, either you got to call it 1873 01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:28,040 Speaker 1: or you gotta agree that enough is enough that we're 1874 01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:29,720 Speaker 1: not going to do this anymore. And it looks like 1875 01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:34,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna try to get back to try to get 1876 01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:36,439 Speaker 1: back to the team period that had just started. I 1877 01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:38,920 Speaker 1: don't even think the Patriots offense had run a play yet. No, 1878 01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:41,240 Speaker 1: I think there was one play that the Panthers offense 1879 01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:45,559 Speaker 1: ran and yeah, they're trying to move loose. Yeah, yeah, 1880 01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:49,200 Speaker 1: mister Kraft down there too in the middle of it. Kraft, 1881 01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,240 Speaker 1: we don't protect the franchise. Yeah, we don't need mister 1882 01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,920 Speaker 1: Kraft in harm's way. You try not to someone's got 1883 01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,400 Speaker 1: to sign a check. You try not to solely blame 1884 01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:01,120 Speaker 1: Carolina though, like this is obviously it takes two to tang. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, 1885 01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:05,439 Speaker 1: And and maybe Caroline has been the instigator. Yeah, but 1886 01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:09,439 Speaker 1: this has been enough where both teams have been heavily involved. Yeah. 1887 01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:12,720 Speaker 1: I would I would hope that, you know, obviously you 1888 01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:15,720 Speaker 1: have people who are instigators on Twitter, but um, I 1889 01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,839 Speaker 1: would hope that the rumors weren't true of the Panthers 1890 01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:21,280 Speaker 1: coming out here and trying to seek air quote revenge 1891 01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,920 Speaker 1: from what happened in the game last year. Like that's so, Penny, 1892 01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:28,320 Speaker 1: what happened in the game with Mac? And I think, 1893 01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:31,760 Speaker 1: all right, it looks like we're going here and Mac 1894 01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,679 Speaker 1: Jones is uh going a little eleven on eleven, coming 1895 01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:40,439 Speaker 1: right towards the twenty five yard line. Patriots offense. J 1896 01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:45,439 Speaker 1: Smith's nice little drag route on Jeremy Chin. Jeremy Chin, 1897 01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:48,640 Speaker 1: good player, Nice play by Johnny who continues to be 1898 01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, involved, featured however you want to put it. 1899 01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:53,439 Speaker 1: Let's see what the defense does on the other side. 1900 01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:55,600 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is in a quarterback for the Panthers, and 1901 01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:58,960 Speaker 1: he's got a check down wide open. I'd like to 1902 01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:00,800 Speaker 1: have a guy a little closer in that. Yeah, that's 1903 01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:04,080 Speaker 1: not ideal, but both teams are working from about the 1904 01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:07,599 Speaker 1: twenty yard line on the two fields coming in towards 1905 01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:15,000 Speaker 1: the end zone. Got Agalore out there with Parker Mac 1906 01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:17,160 Speaker 1: a little signal it was outside receiver, which makes me 1907 01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:18,519 Speaker 1: think it's going to be a toss up, and it 1908 01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:23,400 Speaker 1: is to Agalore. Oh, nice catch. I think they probably 1909 01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:24,840 Speaker 1: would have given it to him. He punched it out 1910 01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,080 Speaker 1: a little bit late. They gave the touchdown to him. 1911 01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,840 Speaker 1: Those slot fades, though, you want to see more of those, right, Like, 1912 01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:33,479 Speaker 1: those are the plays. I was watching a great Nick 1913 01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:36,519 Speaker 1: Saban breakdown on Twitter the other day about this about 1914 01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:39,560 Speaker 1: how you know the horizontal space that you have to 1915 01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:41,880 Speaker 1: drop the ball in there versus throwing a fade from 1916 01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:45,760 Speaker 1: a receiver on the sideline. Alabama loves those plays, and 1917 01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:49,400 Speaker 1: that's exactly what Mac Jones feasted on at Alabama was throwing, 1918 01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, giving the receiver kind of laying it out 1919 01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:53,679 Speaker 1: there for him and letting him go and get into football. 1920 01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:55,360 Speaker 1: And we've seen a lot of that so far in 1921 01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:57,360 Speaker 1: training camp, and I hope that's now going to be 1922 01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:00,760 Speaker 1: a featured part of this offense. All Matt going again 1923 01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:05,519 Speaker 1: here coming towards us. It's just a little handoff inside 1924 01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:07,000 Speaker 1: and you have a little bit of space there for 1925 01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:10,120 Speaker 1: Damien Harris. He's able to u plug out a few yards. 1926 01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:11,960 Speaker 1: Not not not the worst run play I've seen over 1927 01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:14,800 Speaker 1: the last it was probably three weeks. Yeah, it's probably 1928 01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:16,560 Speaker 1: the best. And now we got the defensive side of 1929 01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,200 Speaker 1: the ball going with Baker Mayfield still and Christian McCaffrey 1930 01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:22,559 Speaker 1: next to him, a lot of the top defensive guys 1931 01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:24,760 Speaker 1: for the Patriots in there. They're going every other for us, 1932 01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:27,280 Speaker 1: which is very Yeah, just like yesterday was very always 1933 01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:29,360 Speaker 1: tossing it up. Yeah, that was a wing and a prayer. 1934 01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,439 Speaker 1: Good job by Dugger though he's got googe good coverage. 1935 01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:35,920 Speaker 1: Looked like Judean was in his face again. Yeah, he 1936 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:37,320 Speaker 1: just kind of had to lob it up over. It 1937 01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:39,639 Speaker 1: didn't seem like he could really get a good look 1938 01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:42,280 Speaker 1: at the play. Was not on the same page, all right, 1939 01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:46,360 Speaker 1: Matt under center. Now back on the other side. Another 1940 01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:50,800 Speaker 1: handoff inside is Stevenson and not much there. That's Matt Ianidis, 1941 01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:53,479 Speaker 1: who's a big boy in the middle there. Formerly a 1942 01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:57,160 Speaker 1: Washington and inside a cold strange. The under center running 1943 01:31:57,200 --> 01:32:00,040 Speaker 1: game just is still not going anywhere. But then and 1944 01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:02,360 Speaker 1: they you know the shotgun run that they ran a 1945 01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:05,240 Speaker 1: couple of plays ago that actually was successful. So still 1946 01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:07,519 Speaker 1: with the spread stuff still looks good, and the under 1947 01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:10,240 Speaker 1: center stuff still does not. You really wonder especially we 1948 01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:12,880 Speaker 1: haven't seen really any of the goal line stuff they 1949 01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:14,720 Speaker 1: they gotta have at moments, like, you know, where where 1950 01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,280 Speaker 1: are the Patriots at with that? It's just it doesn't 1951 01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:18,880 Speaker 1: seem like they got a lot of options to go 1952 01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,240 Speaker 1: heavy right now, especially with their short on tackles. They 1953 01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,120 Speaker 1: don't have a fullback anymore, they don't really have a 1954 01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:25,960 Speaker 1: true blocking tight end. But you know, just what, what 1955 01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:28,360 Speaker 1: are those short yardage gotta have it moments gonna look 1956 01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:34,439 Speaker 1: like as as Max scrambles uptime touchdown? Touchdown now broken play. 1957 01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,880 Speaker 1: So nice play on the defensive field by Jonathan Jones 1958 01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:41,120 Speaker 1: on DJ Moore and I come background and Jones broke 1959 01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:42,720 Speaker 1: on and was able to get a hand in there 1960 01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:45,160 Speaker 1: and break the pass up. He's actually had some really 1961 01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:48,280 Speaker 1: good moments in coverage against DJ Moore on the outside. 1962 01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:52,360 Speaker 1: So now we got a little Jack Jones here, Gotta 1963 01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:59,200 Speaker 1: run left by trip trip tripped over sixty sixty three, 1964 01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:01,759 Speaker 1: looked like June and put sixty three in the backfield 1965 01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:04,200 Speaker 1: and got him to trip up his own guy. So 1966 01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:07,479 Speaker 1: safe to say Judeon's is really kind of coming on lately. 1967 01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:08,920 Speaker 1: I mean not to say that that he didn't have 1968 01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:10,240 Speaker 1: a good start to camp, but I mean, I just 1969 01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:12,360 Speaker 1: I think he continues. He's another guy on defense. It 1970 01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:15,040 Speaker 1: just continues to make plays. The pressure has been more 1971 01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:19,479 Speaker 1: prevalent than yesterday so far on Mac Jones. Yeah, he 1972 01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:21,559 Speaker 1: had to get through it pretty quick there. Those are 1973 01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:23,879 Speaker 1: the nice plays though from him, from those muddy pockets 1974 01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:25,679 Speaker 1: that you like to see him get to that check down, 1975 01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:27,720 Speaker 1: hanging in there a little bit and just keep the 1976 01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:29,840 Speaker 1: play alive. Kind of what you liked about him last year. 1977 01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:31,479 Speaker 1: I felt like it's just he never he didn't look 1978 01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:36,840 Speaker 1: like oh boy, all around me all right, defense going look, 1979 01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:39,400 Speaker 1: got a little bit of a sub package in there 1980 01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:43,920 Speaker 1: far more so, a pretty good set for the h 1981 01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:47,559 Speaker 1: the offense. Yeah, there was six plays, a little mixed bag, 1982 01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:49,240 Speaker 1: but it started off with a couple of really nice 1983 01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:52,400 Speaker 1: plays to Smith and Agalore May Phil putting it up 1984 01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:54,840 Speaker 1: for I don't know if he has sex places now 1985 01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:57,720 Speaker 1: he's out of bounds, but throw up the seam to 1986 01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:00,360 Speaker 1: DJ Moore went up and U and many to grab 1987 01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:02,840 Speaker 1: it despite having two defenders right close to him, but 1988 01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:05,880 Speaker 1: he couldn't get the second foot down. So nice stop 1989 01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:10,120 Speaker 1: there for the Patriots defense. Defense. Defense has been strong again, 1990 01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:13,400 Speaker 1: I would say on the other side over there offensively 1991 01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:16,680 Speaker 1: though you've mentioned Paul the crosser to Johnny, then he 1992 01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:18,400 Speaker 1: got the fade ball to Agla. I mean, at least 1993 01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,080 Speaker 1: they're they're pushing the ball down the field like these 1994 01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:22,519 Speaker 1: are not a little dump off ump off to the 1995 01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:25,840 Speaker 1: running back. Yeah, running backs and fairness. I will say 1996 01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:29,719 Speaker 1: the ensuing four plays after that probably not as productive 1997 01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:32,000 Speaker 1: as they would like. But I like to start. I 1998 01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,000 Speaker 1: like to start from Mac Jones and the offense. They 1999 01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:37,640 Speaker 1: were all rare, a rare blitz by the Panthers, and 2000 01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:40,679 Speaker 1: uh definitely got home. You can't connect with Kendrick Bourne 2001 01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:43,479 Speaker 1: in the back corner on the end zone. That's my boy, 2002 01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:46,719 Speaker 1: our boy, Duke Dawson coming on that Duke. That's definitely 2003 01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:48,679 Speaker 1: something you want to see more of today. I would 2004 01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:53,240 Speaker 1: say the Panthers defense, which is very cool. Great play. Wow, 2005 01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:56,879 Speaker 1: that was a twenty five to call the Panthers quarterbacks 2006 01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:59,519 Speaker 1: inaccurate would be it would be a disgrace to inaccurate 2007 01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:02,680 Speaker 1: quarterback everywhere. So that was that was Marcus Jones right there. 2008 01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:05,120 Speaker 1: Great play on the ball. Looked like they had a 2009 01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:07,360 Speaker 1: reception at about the three yard line, but Marcus Jones 2010 01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:09,840 Speaker 1: closed the space quick out his hand in and uh 2011 01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,280 Speaker 1: and ripped the ball out to force the incompletion. Nice 2012 01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:15,519 Speaker 1: nice play by the rookie that I think that ended 2013 01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:18,040 Speaker 1: up maybe being an interception. Did he get out he 2014 01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:21,320 Speaker 1: did have it if he was out, Yeah, he picked 2015 01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:25,160 Speaker 1: it off. Yeah, he's been very very The receiver is 2016 01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:28,080 Speaker 1: wide open and he's throwing it way to the inside, 2017 01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:30,519 Speaker 1: like for some unknown reason, this is the same stuff 2018 01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:33,519 Speaker 1: we saw from them yesterday. They're gonna struggle. The Panthers 2019 01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:36,040 Speaker 1: are gonna struggle because their quarterbacks can't throw it where 2020 01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:38,639 Speaker 1: they need to throw it to be fair, though Baker 2021 01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:42,040 Speaker 1: Mayfield got here a week before training camp. Yeah, but 2022 01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:45,000 Speaker 1: he's just throwing passes and that was Darnold anyway. But 2023 01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,439 Speaker 1: like they're just throwing passes to guys and they can't 2024 01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:50,120 Speaker 1: throw it to where they need to throw it. Can 2025 01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:58,240 Speaker 1: we give Marcus Jones? They stick I would say one 2026 01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:02,519 Speaker 1: he got here week, Kendrick coming off injury, all the things. 2027 01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:06,759 Speaker 1: Still trying to find chemistry, rhythm like the Patriot's Office, 2028 01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,600 Speaker 1: all right, continuing to work here through uh some of 2029 01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:13,479 Speaker 1: the second groups. I would say Brian Hoyer continues to 2030 01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:17,240 Speaker 1: work with Kendrick Bourne, Taekwon Thornton and little Jordan Humphrey 2031 01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:19,960 Speaker 1: with the second group. Uh, you know, maybe a little 2032 01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:22,200 Speaker 1: bit of note that that little Jordan's getting a little 2033 01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:24,920 Speaker 1: bit of a pump there not seeing you know, Trey 2034 01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:28,280 Speaker 1: Nixon in that role was another bad play over there 2035 01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:31,639 Speaker 1: on the guys are just like standing there five yards 2036 01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:34,640 Speaker 1: and eight eight yards to the left and to the right. 2037 01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:37,320 Speaker 1: Can we just give Marcus Jones a little bit of 2038 01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:39,960 Speaker 1: credit for that player though? That one? No, not that one. 2039 01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:43,840 Speaker 1: The interception though, because he's got Stephen Sullivan. He's six 2040 01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:49,920 Speaker 1: foot five. Marcus Jones is okay, and it was a 2041 01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,439 Speaker 1: good play. Though he's got a It's a matchup that 2042 01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:55,840 Speaker 1: is not favorable for Marcus Jones. He's in the condensed split, 2043 01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:59,800 Speaker 1: he gets take the tight end out in the flat Jones, 2044 01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:01,800 Speaker 1: but he threw the ball. He plays a lot bigger 2045 01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:03,360 Speaker 1: than he's listed. All right, let me put it to 2046 01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:05,040 Speaker 1: you that way. He's a guy that I like. You 2047 01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:07,720 Speaker 1: don't have to Marcus Jones. I like Marcus Jones. I 2048 01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:11,000 Speaker 1: think he's had an excellent camp. That's all I needed 2049 01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:13,400 Speaker 1: to hear. I think he's he's an athlete, unlike most 2050 01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:15,960 Speaker 1: of the Patriots. He's a good athlete. Yeah, so I 2051 01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:19,800 Speaker 1: like him. He reminds me of like most of the Patriots. 2052 01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:22,960 Speaker 1: I think. I think Bill Belichick told you what he 2053 01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:25,640 Speaker 1: thought about the team's athleticism with his draft. Yeah, I 2054 01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:28,240 Speaker 1: think Marcus Jones kind of reminds me of a guy 2055 01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:31,479 Speaker 1: like Time Montgomery who can do a lot of things. So, um, 2056 01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to see like how the team uses 2057 01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:36,280 Speaker 1: him well. And you're seeing uh, you know, Sean Wade 2058 01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:38,760 Speaker 1: and Justin Bethel getting you know, some snaps over there 2059 01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:40,880 Speaker 1: at the cornerback group. As you mentioned, a little bit 2060 01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:43,320 Speaker 1: thin with uh with those two guys landing on I 2061 01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:47,840 Speaker 1: R yesterday. It's a training camp problem. Where where is uh? 2062 01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:53,519 Speaker 1: Oh here comes a friend? Oh oh, boss man is 2063 01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:57,560 Speaker 1: boss Man in the house? Did you settle? Did you 2064 01:37:57,600 --> 01:37:59,559 Speaker 1: settle the players down? And we got more fights going 2065 01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:02,000 Speaker 1: on for this is not good at such a good 2066 01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:06,760 Speaker 1: Jordan Jordan the boss man weighing in with wondering if 2067 01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:10,880 Speaker 1: practices ask for you? Yeah, all email, yeah that email 2068 01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:14,120 Speaker 1: if your fans are were your fans were clamoring. You 2069 01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:17,960 Speaker 1: just see the threat though that Tai Kwon is when 2070 01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:20,800 Speaker 1: he's on the field, because he's running that route on 2071 01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:24,360 Speaker 1: the boundary in that corner has the deep third and 2072 01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:26,400 Speaker 1: he's just got to stay there because you know he 2073 01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:29,080 Speaker 1: can go right past him. He's got to respected. Little 2074 01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:31,560 Speaker 1: Jordan comes and crosses out from the other side and 2075 01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:34,000 Speaker 1: he's able to catch the ball. The linebackers like, where's 2076 01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:36,080 Speaker 1: my help? The help is over on Tai Kwon because 2077 01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:38,080 Speaker 1: Tai Kwon is taking the top off. Those are the 2078 01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:40,479 Speaker 1: things we're talking about it earlier. Taikwon's role, It's like, 2079 01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:42,920 Speaker 1: how do you take him off the field, Like when 2080 01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:45,000 Speaker 1: he can have that type of impact on every single 2081 01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:47,160 Speaker 1: single play even if he's not catching the football. Yep. 2082 01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:51,080 Speaker 1: So I would say largely a continuation of yesterday. I 2083 01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:53,880 Speaker 1: think the Patriots have been better and both both sides, 2084 01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:58,160 Speaker 1: um you know, not dominant, but better than than Carolina. 2085 01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:00,519 Speaker 1: Panda has been able to run the ball little bit better. 2086 01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:03,920 Speaker 1: Patriots runs there some of the some of it's against 2087 01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:07,760 Speaker 1: the battle defensive line. When Gotcha's out there, they can't 2088 01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:10,160 Speaker 1: run the ball. Yeah, he's He's just been a monster 2089 01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:14,160 Speaker 1: for the Patriots all camps like switch. We're going to 2090 01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:16,360 Speaker 1: seven on seven, So we got mac Jones coming towards us, 2091 01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:23,799 Speaker 1: Parker Agalore Myers, Johnny Smith and mondra Stevenson in the backfield. 2092 01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:26,559 Speaker 1: I haven't seen jac Horn out here for the Panthers. 2093 01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:29,760 Speaker 1: I know they limited him all right, we'll check down 2094 01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:33,360 Speaker 1: to Ramond check down and say, I think um during 2095 01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:37,000 Speaker 1: Worlds press conference yesterday between twenty and twenty five reps 2096 01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:39,040 Speaker 1: from Yeah, so he hasn't been I haven't really seen 2097 01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:41,400 Speaker 1: eight out here at all, So they might be keeping 2098 01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:44,840 Speaker 1: him out completely. And with the chippiness too, it might 2099 01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:47,160 Speaker 1: not be a bad idea. Yeah, he got two on 2100 01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:51,000 Speaker 1: two drills, which I love watching for the lineman get 2101 01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:53,360 Speaker 1: those stunts and get to have to pass things off 2102 01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:57,679 Speaker 1: and oh Mycaffrey wide open. Steve tries to go into 2103 01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:01,160 Speaker 1: the end zone and I think he was out of touch. 2104 01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:04,280 Speaker 1: I got a touchdown on that one. Not that it's 2105 01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:07,560 Speaker 1: a surpriser, really a slight on any Patriot linebacker, but 2106 01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:12,439 Speaker 1: none of these linebackers can cover Christian McCaffrey. I actually 2107 01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:14,559 Speaker 1: think that one was a coverage breakdown. I didn't think 2108 01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:19,000 Speaker 1: anybody was on them. Yeah, not much there for Mac 2109 01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:20,800 Speaker 1: and that's seven on seven. Rep just kind of held 2110 01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:22,360 Speaker 1: it for a while. And I'm not a big fan 2111 01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:25,840 Speaker 1: of the saxon seven on seven yea. Although I did 2112 01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:28,679 Speaker 1: elicit my moment of training camp when someone on Twitter 2113 01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:30,960 Speaker 1: said that he does a great job of avoiding the 2114 01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:33,000 Speaker 1: pressure in seven on seven and getting the ball off, 2115 01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:37,200 Speaker 1: I forget who said it. I would love to ridicule 2116 01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:39,960 Speaker 1: the person, but I can't remember where I who wrote that. 2117 01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:43,680 Speaker 1: Cole Strange just whipped on that one. Brian Burn has 2118 01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:46,160 Speaker 1: been a problem. Yeah, he just went right by him, 2119 01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:52,760 Speaker 1: not doing little stunt work. As Evan said, alright, seven 2120 01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:59,439 Speaker 1: on sevens continuing here Farfields's got the lines and oh 2121 01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:03,400 Speaker 1: nice and nice throw by Mac as he raises his 2122 01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:06,280 Speaker 1: arms with Jacobe Meyers, who you know, continues to just 2123 01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:09,200 Speaker 1: be consistent, you know, catches what's thrown his way, finds 2124 01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:11,000 Speaker 1: the holes in the middle of the defense. So if 2125 01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:15,160 Speaker 1: you have me really looking at Born a lot closer, 2126 01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:20,360 Speaker 1: and I think you have something because it's almost always 2127 01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:25,400 Speaker 1: Aggalore Myers and Parker. I'll say this when he comes 2128 01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:28,640 Speaker 1: to things like yesterday with the fighting. I don't want 2129 01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:32,040 Speaker 1: to speak for him, obviously he's but Bill seems to 2130 01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:34,160 Speaker 1: be able to get over stuff like that. Yeah. When 2131 01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:36,160 Speaker 1: you go in the media and you start talking about 2132 01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:38,560 Speaker 1: the playbook and you start talking about the calls and 2133 01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:42,519 Speaker 1: the offense and the system changing before everybody else, that 2134 01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:45,040 Speaker 1: perks the ears up. And I remember when that came 2135 01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:48,200 Speaker 1: out earlier this summer and I was like, that probably 2136 01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:53,479 Speaker 1: wasn't the best thing to do. No, he's not gotten 2137 01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:58,360 Speaker 1: as many opportunities with those guys as as the other three. 2138 01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:02,679 Speaker 1: It's been Parker, Aggalore and and it seems like Thornton's 2139 01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:05,600 Speaker 1: been kind of gets a little bit, he gets mixed in. 2140 01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:08,080 Speaker 1: Now he's more understandable as a rookie. You would think 2141 01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:10,000 Speaker 1: Born would be a more I think, Paul, you might 2142 01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:12,840 Speaker 1: have your new answer for surprise cut. Yeah, I don't 2143 01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:15,960 Speaker 1: think that's gonna I don't know if that's why I 2144 01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:20,759 Speaker 1: would be a surprise us. Do you think that would 2145 01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:23,360 Speaker 1: be a surprise? And I just think that Kendrick we 2146 01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:25,960 Speaker 1: see more of him in games than we do in practice, Like, yeah, 2147 01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:27,960 Speaker 1: it's definitely fair. Yeah, No, and I think, I mean, 2148 01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:30,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't really that impressed with him last year in 2149 01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:32,760 Speaker 1: training camp, and I think he you know, slowly came 2150 01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:34,760 Speaker 1: on and I wasn't all that impressed with him during 2151 01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:36,960 Speaker 1: the season. It's other than a couple of select games. 2152 01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:39,000 Speaker 1: He had a great game against Dallas. I mean, didn't 2153 01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:41,120 Speaker 1: that Dallas catch like, blow you away. I didn't expect 2154 01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:42,800 Speaker 1: that at all. When when he like, I mean, maybe 2155 01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:44,560 Speaker 1: that was more a situation to see. I think it 2156 01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:46,439 Speaker 1: was he had a great game. I think with him, 2157 01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:50,560 Speaker 1: the thing that the ball carrying skills and the explosiveness 2158 01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:52,360 Speaker 1: with the ball in his hands was not an element 2159 01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:54,599 Speaker 1: of a game his game. I thought that he had 2160 01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:57,240 Speaker 1: and his in his bag. Oh guy just fell down 2161 01:42:57,320 --> 01:43:00,960 Speaker 1: for the Pitcho's yeah, jets sweet, you know, adding the 2162 01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:05,320 Speaker 1: ball off to him. A nice catch by Jacobe one 2163 01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:08,840 Speaker 1: handed on Jeremy Chin. Yeah, those are the things that 2164 01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:11,320 Speaker 1: Kendrick that I really didn't think that he had in 2165 01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:14,160 Speaker 1: his toolbox. And then you know Josh McDaniels saying when 2166 01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:15,840 Speaker 1: he has the ball, it's a different energy, it's a 2167 01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:18,920 Speaker 1: different level of speed that he runs with it compared 2168 01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:22,400 Speaker 1: to the other guys. Things like that, I just looking 2169 01:43:22,439 --> 01:43:24,479 Speaker 1: at him at San Francisco. I always thought of him 2170 01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:27,680 Speaker 1: as like a Mohamed Sanu, like a nice technician guy 2171 01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:30,080 Speaker 1: that could get open. But it wasn't really special than that. 2172 01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:32,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree. I didn't think he was as 2173 01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:34,479 Speaker 1: explosive as he looked at times. But I was wondering, 2174 01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:36,920 Speaker 1: is that because of what we're looking at overall? Does 2175 01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:40,679 Speaker 1: he look like more explosive comparatively? Yeah? I mean certainly 2176 01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:42,519 Speaker 1: now that we see Tai Kwon every day, right, so 2177 01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,639 Speaker 1: now you know, so here's a good example with Taekwon 2178 01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:46,639 Speaker 1: subbing in for Parker, and you know it's still kind 2179 01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:50,040 Speaker 1: of the top receiving groups. Nice play knocked away by 2180 01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:54,519 Speaker 1: I think Jonathan Jones. Yeah, good coverage on eighty four Yeah, 2181 01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:58,840 Speaker 1: and Stephan Sullivan good, good play by Jonathan Jones. Yeah. 2182 01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:01,760 Speaker 1: Nice nice play down here to uh Mac was trying 2183 01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:03,600 Speaker 1: to hit Taekwon Thornton on the in cut and a 2184 01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:05,960 Speaker 1: nice job by the Panthers dB stick with him, stayed 2185 01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:09,760 Speaker 1: in this hip and prevented the completion. I know, Paul, 2186 01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:11,920 Speaker 1: is I missed that one? Who was that last players 2187 01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:15,160 Speaker 1: say was intended for Thornton? It was incomplete. I know 2188 01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:17,320 Speaker 1: Paul has been tough on on the Panthers quarterbacks, and 2189 01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:20,280 Speaker 1: rightfully so. But this is a good group of skill 2190 01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:23,120 Speaker 1: players that Caroline has. I think Dj Moore and Robbie 2191 01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:27,200 Speaker 1: Anderson and I mean there, I think it is somewhat overrated, 2192 01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:30,760 Speaker 1: but but Dj Moore is not. Um Yeah, and I 2193 01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:33,560 Speaker 1: think the Patriots secondary is is really put put the 2194 01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:39,080 Speaker 1: clamps on. I agree. Baker Mayfield back to pass, woof, 2195 01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:42,160 Speaker 1: it's another actuate throw. I don't know who that was too. 2196 01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:46,080 Speaker 1: I won't say anything, but the ball, I'll hit the 2197 01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:50,120 Speaker 1: ground about eight yards away from its intender receiver. It 2198 01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:51,920 Speaker 1: was like one of those ones where like it was 2199 01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:54,679 Speaker 1: almost intentional grounding because the ball went so far beyond 2200 01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:58,800 Speaker 1: the receiver. Gilbert threw him so badly. Well, I guess 2201 01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:01,840 Speaker 1: there was somebody in the but using your eyes are 2202 01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:05,920 Speaker 1: just using the force. You got to feel it. Uh 2203 01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:08,360 Speaker 1: A mac back to pass again on seven on sevens 2204 01:45:08,479 --> 01:45:12,120 Speaker 1: is going to the ooh that was dangerous. Yeah, I 2205 01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:14,760 Speaker 1: went for aglord Justin Burris looked like he had a 2206 01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:18,000 Speaker 1: chance to make a play on that didn't quite connect. 2207 01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:21,800 Speaker 1: We'd go Baker Mayfield. Experience continues and to check down 2208 01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:26,240 Speaker 1: and Mack Wilson mack Wilson ran so fast by that 2209 01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:28,040 Speaker 1: guy he just fell down. But those are the types 2210 01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:30,760 Speaker 1: of players from mac Wilson's he continued to stand out. 2211 01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:32,960 Speaker 1: It's like he's just there faster than the guys that 2212 01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:35,280 Speaker 1: they've had in those spots in the past couple of years. 2213 01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:37,800 Speaker 1: He closes in a hurry. Now let's hope that he 2214 01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:40,000 Speaker 1: can tackle because he's getting there fast. But he's got 2215 01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:41,560 Speaker 1: to get the guy to the ground in games. But 2216 01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:44,880 Speaker 1: you get a little Bailey z happy. Yeah, first we've 2217 01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:47,519 Speaker 1: seen to him against the Panthers. So here you go. 2218 01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:51,360 Speaker 1: It's now you got Nixon and Borne Jordan the backstory 2219 01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:53,400 Speaker 1: on how you why you say Panthers the way you 2220 01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:58,160 Speaker 1: do Panthers? Me, that's that's just a Boston accent. That 2221 01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:02,000 Speaker 1: was that was my old exaggerated Boston the Panthers. That's 2222 01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:05,120 Speaker 1: a perfect throw by Bailey's appouldn't I wouldn't normally say oh. 2223 01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:07,479 Speaker 1: I was like, um, did I miss something? No, no, no, no. 2224 01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:10,599 Speaker 1: I love the Panthers because that's what Holliston was growing up. 2225 01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:12,720 Speaker 1: And when I was a freshman hockey player, I just 2226 01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:15,320 Speaker 1: sat on the bench and watched the cheerleaders doing the 2227 01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:17,479 Speaker 1: Holliston Panthers. You know, they have the whole team, but 2228 01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:20,840 Speaker 1: it was always Panthers for me. All right, what do 2229 01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:24,280 Speaker 1: we got? Bailey's Zappy just dotted one to Trey Nixon 2230 01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:26,559 Speaker 1: up to see him. Was really impressive throw. He saw 2231 01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:29,040 Speaker 1: the safety coming over and like back shouldered it to 2232 01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:32,280 Speaker 1: him almost to keep it away from the safety. Really. Yeah, 2233 01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:34,240 Speaker 1: every once in a while he's got some of that 2234 01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:38,720 Speaker 1: that intermediate levels seem ball zip that you see from 2235 01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:41,479 Speaker 1: him is really impressive. It seems like you really see 2236 01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:44,000 Speaker 1: him put his body into it sometimes too, Like there's 2237 01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:47,040 Speaker 1: just sometimes he winds up with a fastball or puts 2238 01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:49,839 Speaker 1: everything he's got into it. The Ryan Fitzpatrick, Yeah, exactly. 2239 01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:53,000 Speaker 1: That's a great comp right there. Ryan Fitzpatrick is not 2240 01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:56,080 Speaker 1: a bad comp in general. No, just no beard he needs. 2241 01:46:56,080 --> 01:46:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't think Bailey Zappie's getting to that beard for 2242 01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:02,519 Speaker 1: another twenty years. Sean Wade over on I think Wood, 2243 01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:04,519 Speaker 1: Paul and Fred are on the same page for the 2244 01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:12,040 Speaker 1: Panthers QBIS from Yeah, Fred's grimacing. I do you think 2245 01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:15,240 Speaker 1: is Sean Wade because he's one of those guys and this, 2246 01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:17,880 Speaker 1: you know the story. Ohio stayed much really good player, 2247 01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:21,960 Speaker 1: five star recruit and he gets hurt, kind of tails 2248 01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:23,880 Speaker 1: off at the end. It os you get burned by 2249 01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:27,000 Speaker 1: DeVante Smith a bunch in the National Championship game. But 2250 01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:30,439 Speaker 1: he's got some talent. I know you weren't crazy about 2251 01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:33,320 Speaker 1: him in the preseason game. Like everybody, I've seen plays 2252 01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:35,320 Speaker 1: here and there. I think he's been a little up 2253 01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:38,639 Speaker 1: and down. I think we ignore the plays that aren't 2254 01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:42,840 Speaker 1: necessarily as good. I think sometimes it's a quick hitter. 2255 01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:47,479 Speaker 1: I think Wade had Um back to back, like pass breakups. 2256 01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:50,639 Speaker 1: I think towards the end of practice yesterday, Yes, two 2257 01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:52,920 Speaker 1: good plays, Yeah, two really good plays. And what I 2258 01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:55,080 Speaker 1: think when I enjoyed most. Obviously the plays are big, 2259 01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:58,000 Speaker 1: but seeing Jalen Mills just gets so excited for him 2260 01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:00,840 Speaker 1: on the sideline. I thought, like, you know, he could 2261 01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:03,479 Speaker 1: really see that he's starting to come around. I think 2262 01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:05,400 Speaker 1: obviously in the game he had his moments, but I 2263 01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:07,080 Speaker 1: think here in practice we've seen a lot more out 2264 01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:08,680 Speaker 1: of him. Yeah. I mean we talk about this a 2265 01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:11,240 Speaker 1: lot with the Patriots, guys like Cameron mcgron, even like 2266 01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:15,519 Speaker 1: Lebryan Ray, just players that were highly touted had some 2267 01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:18,240 Speaker 1: injuries in college or some tough times in college. But 2268 01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:20,920 Speaker 1: like in an alternate universe, Sean Wade is like a 2269 01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:23,280 Speaker 1: top fifty pick in the draft, but he ends up 2270 01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:25,800 Speaker 1: falling because of circumstances, and you know, you never know 2271 01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:28,200 Speaker 1: what those guys. Well, he had a bad year the 2272 01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:30,920 Speaker 1: last year and no, I forget now did he move 2273 01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:34,719 Speaker 1: to slot? No, so he moved and he was playing 2274 01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:36,640 Speaker 1: on a bad foot, which was part of it. But 2275 01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:40,160 Speaker 1: like I said, when he went up against Bama with 2276 01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:42,240 Speaker 1: Justin Fields and that Ohio State team in the National 2277 01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:45,200 Speaker 1: Championship game, DeVante Smith worked him pretty good in that 2278 01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:47,599 Speaker 1: game and that was his stock after that. I'll tell 2279 01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:50,160 Speaker 1: you that's the biggest reason why I'm not overly excited, 2280 01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:52,600 Speaker 1: because I think Baltimore was one of a handful of 2281 01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:55,160 Speaker 1: teams in the league that does a really good job 2282 01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:58,960 Speaker 1: with personnel. Yeah, something value and when you cut, you 2283 01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:02,920 Speaker 1: know you cut ties with a draft pick. I think 2284 01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:04,880 Speaker 1: there's a reason for that. And that's a team that 2285 01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:09,559 Speaker 1: had um some significant depth issues in the secondary. What's 2286 01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:11,439 Speaker 1: with that's siren? Do you think that's a pan? That's 2287 01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:13,519 Speaker 1: what the Panthers used for a horn? They keep hearing 2288 01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:15,439 Speaker 1: that that weird kind of siren. How to be Yeah, 2289 01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:17,519 Speaker 1: I think so. By the way, I gotta just comment 2290 01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:22,160 Speaker 1: again the barbecue smell. It's just it is that barbecue 2291 01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:24,880 Speaker 1: for us, A round a barbecue round the wings. Actually, 2292 01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:26,960 Speaker 1: I will say, Mike, that sound might work for me 2293 01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:30,000 Speaker 1: for my law and order if we want. There's only 2294 01:49:30,040 --> 01:49:32,360 Speaker 1: one lawn order sound. That one like a police siren 2295 01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:36,720 Speaker 1: almost a little little bit. It's just a gold mine 2296 01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:41,680 Speaker 1: of law and order sound effects for putting down. All right, 2297 01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:45,160 Speaker 1: I think now we're talking some special teams, special teams. 2298 01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:49,120 Speaker 1: Whenever you see do you see twenty two guys go 2299 01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:51,400 Speaker 1: to the middle of failure? Here we go. Wait a minute, 2300 01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:53,360 Speaker 1: there's Jake Billy. All right, all right, we gotta work 2301 01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:57,040 Speaker 1: on the punt. We got punters of people. We we 2302 01:49:57,080 --> 01:49:59,400 Speaker 1: gotta at least another team period. Almost ready for another 2303 01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:02,240 Speaker 1: bite of my down, probably another two minute two at 2304 01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:07,400 Speaker 1: the end. Freddy needs the binocs finals. What does the 2305 01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:12,479 Speaker 1: keen I spy's checking the fans? So yeah, not quite 2306 01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:14,880 Speaker 1: as as as mad packed as as yesterday was. They 2307 01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:17,000 Speaker 1: did open the ramps today, but um but but definitely 2308 01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:18,479 Speaker 1: a good turn out here for the last day. And 2309 01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:20,760 Speaker 1: if you didn't make it, shame on you. It's a 2310 01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:23,240 Speaker 1: great time it's free, it's uh something for the kids, 2311 01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:26,960 Speaker 1: autographs everything. Dad, Well, it turned out to be a 2312 01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:37,000 Speaker 1: great day. As Paul keeps talking about getting my sound, 2313 01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:41,360 Speaker 1: I love it. Bailey, does it seem like the Patriots 2314 01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:43,599 Speaker 1: are really having a hard time getting punts off without 2315 01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:46,120 Speaker 1: getting that one looked close to me the potential to 2316 01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:52,720 Speaker 1: ye too. Yep, that's why maybe you asked yourself, is uh, 2317 01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:55,519 Speaker 1: you know, is it Cody Davis secure in that spot? 2318 01:50:55,720 --> 01:50:57,160 Speaker 1: Is it? You know? Is he the problem? Is it? 2319 01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:59,479 Speaker 1: I mean, I know last year was Jacob got got 2320 01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:01,400 Speaker 1: a big blank on one of those. I'm not gonna 2321 01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:04,080 Speaker 1: pretend to be an expert on this, but I have 2322 01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:06,560 Speaker 1: spoken to people that are experts on these things, like 2323 01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:11,519 Speaker 1: Matt Chaddam who played in that position, and I'll be good. 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Josh Bledsoe, Ronnie Perkins. You know, 2334 01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:49,439 Speaker 1: these are the guys that are on this unit. And 2335 01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:51,519 Speaker 1: you have a couple of undrafted rookies who have been 2336 01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:55,600 Speaker 1: doing a lot of specifically tailored special teams work with 2337 01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:59,679 Speaker 1: the veterans in Mitchell and Schooler. Well, guys, we're probably 2338 01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:02,240 Speaker 1: ten it up here for some eleven on elevens coming up. So, 2339 01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:04,280 Speaker 1: Matt Moreau, why don't we why don't we take a 2340 01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:07,560 Speaker 1: quick break here and we will be back hopefully with 2341 01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:10,720 Speaker 1: some eleven on eleven action. 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It looks like 2421 01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:11,760 Speaker 1: they're putting the ball on the twelve yard line and 2422 01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:13,720 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get some eleven on eleven action 2423 01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:17,560 Speaker 1: after a little punt work, so we'll see hopefully the 2424 01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:20,880 Speaker 1: tempers flaring is behind us and get some good work. 2425 01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:23,360 Speaker 1: It looks like the Patriots are going to be on defense. First, 2426 01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:25,960 Speaker 1: a lot of red zone work today, it seems, yeah, 2427 01:57:26,960 --> 01:57:29,720 Speaker 1: which which you know, it tends to be a theme 2428 01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:31,960 Speaker 1: in camp. I just feel like as I watch more 2429 01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:34,080 Speaker 1: and more training camp practices, it just seems like the 2430 01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:37,520 Speaker 1: the importance of the red zone. It's hardest down there, 2431 01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:39,920 Speaker 1: there's tight windows, it's where you got to score. It's 2432 01:57:39,960 --> 01:57:41,600 Speaker 1: just a critical part of the game, and they always 2433 01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:46,200 Speaker 1: seem to really hit it hard. So all right, getting 2434 01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:52,160 Speaker 1: ready here, Baker Bayfield back under center and we'll see 2435 01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:55,600 Speaker 1: what they got. Look like that might have been all sides. 2436 01:57:56,800 --> 01:58:00,680 Speaker 1: Mayfield scanning the field, finds McCaffrey in the middle, a 2437 01:58:00,720 --> 01:58:04,040 Speaker 1: little checkdown and god, that might have been six McCay. 2438 01:58:04,120 --> 01:58:08,879 Speaker 1: They lost McCaffrey again on like a mesh thing crosser, crosser, 2439 01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:13,360 Speaker 1: and then McCaffrey just sat down in the middle of it. Yeah, 2440 01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:16,440 Speaker 1: he's a he's a weapon, that's for sure. Do a 2441 01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:21,480 Speaker 1: little everything. One thing I will note um when talking 2442 01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:24,840 Speaker 1: to kristin their team reporter, she mentioned, like, you know, 2443 01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:27,320 Speaker 1: she really wanted to see like who else they had 2444 01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:30,200 Speaker 1: on offense besides McCaffrey and obviously DJ Moore. She said 2445 01:58:30,200 --> 01:58:32,160 Speaker 1: that's kind of been the highlight of camp. Like, especially 2446 01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:35,520 Speaker 1: with McCaffrey being out so often last year, it's like, 2447 01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:38,160 Speaker 1: you know, who do they really have out? I thought 2448 01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:40,840 Speaker 1: you had a couple of nice runs yesterday? Yeah? Did 2449 01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:42,680 Speaker 1: he get kicked out of practice today? Who? I don't 2450 01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:50,840 Speaker 1: know who that DJ Moore? J Moore? Not in Jonathan Jones. Yeah, 2451 01:58:50,880 --> 01:58:53,520 Speaker 1: beating Jonathan Jones back in the end zone, back in crosser. 2452 01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:56,120 Speaker 1: There's some pressure in Baker's face on that one. Yeah. Yeah, 2453 01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:58,200 Speaker 1: he actually did a good job of standing in on 2454 01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:00,200 Speaker 1: that one, and that was probably the best thrives them 2455 01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:02,160 Speaker 1: making two days. I would agree, I would agree, see 2456 01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:06,120 Speaker 1: you you're coming around on my way. That was a 2457 01:59:06,200 --> 01:59:09,200 Speaker 1: positive bringing people together here on Patriots unfiltered by from 2458 01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:12,839 Speaker 1: training camp. Uh. A few substitutions through the Patriots defense, 2459 01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:17,160 Speaker 1: got josh Uja in there, our friend Lebrian Ray who uh, 2460 01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:19,400 Speaker 1: you know, I'm interesting to see Lebrin Reagan. Yeah, he 2461 01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:22,080 Speaker 1: continuing to to flirt with the with the top group. 2462 01:59:22,160 --> 01:59:23,480 Speaker 1: I think they're trying to figure out what they got 2463 01:59:23,520 --> 01:59:25,720 Speaker 1: there is a kind of a hand down defensive end. 2464 01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:27,480 Speaker 1: Is I think what we've got him? Ask? Yeah, it's 2465 01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:31,400 Speaker 1: this little sub package situation. Yeah, dugger in the box 2466 01:59:31,520 --> 01:59:37,960 Speaker 1: and accordy up close and interesting little change in the 2467 01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:41,760 Speaker 1: coverage there. Oh oh oh, and now I have to 2468 01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:44,000 Speaker 1: be fair of him. I can't put I can't put 2469 01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:46,080 Speaker 1: that one on Mayfield. He just hits twelve in the face. 2470 01:59:46,400 --> 01:59:48,440 Speaker 1: He wasn't ready for the past, kind of jumped up 2471 01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:50,360 Speaker 1: and almost a Patriots could have gotten an interception there 2472 01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:52,320 Speaker 1: for a second Shy Smith was opened the ball hit 2473 01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:55,840 Speaker 1: him Like, I mean that that throw was accurate. Yeah, 2474 01:59:55,960 --> 01:59:59,080 Speaker 1: can't as uh as just Zelle would say, you can't 2475 01:59:59,120 --> 02:00:00,680 Speaker 1: throw it, he catch it. I thought. I thought it 2476 02:00:00,680 --> 02:00:02,480 Speaker 1: was a little interesting shift too that they did, where 2477 02:00:02,680 --> 02:00:04,400 Speaker 1: you know, they dropped Miles Bryant in the slot all 2478 02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:06,280 Speaker 1: of a sudden into off coverage and then they moved 2479 02:00:06,360 --> 02:00:09,120 Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones on the other side down into man. So, 2480 02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:10,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just you know, you see that the 2481 02:00:10,640 --> 02:00:14,080 Speaker 1: prestap stuff that the Patriots d messing with formation, and 2482 02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:17,480 Speaker 1: you know after the quarterback hikes the ball, they don't 2483 02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:18,760 Speaker 1: know what they're gonna get. This might have been the 2484 02:00:18,800 --> 02:00:21,120 Speaker 1: three best players the Panthers are running, you know, you know, 2485 02:00:21,280 --> 02:00:25,880 Speaker 1: in consecutively. Yeah, top group back in here, gotcha in 2486 02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:31,000 Speaker 1: the middle, guy, Sure, It's like, yeah, Henry Anderson. Yeah, 2487 02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:36,320 Speaker 1: Henry Anderson. Now that's what getting getting yanked out of practice. 2488 02:00:36,360 --> 02:00:40,080 Speaker 1: So Henry Anderson continues to be the top option behind them. 2489 02:00:40,120 --> 02:00:43,320 Speaker 1: But again you sell Lebranan Ray and that's it's always 2490 02:00:43,360 --> 02:00:45,480 Speaker 1: interesting when you get some of those young guys. I 2491 02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:47,520 Speaker 1: think that's like the point to you know, Sean Wade, 2492 02:00:47,600 --> 02:00:50,000 Speaker 1: Jack Jones, these young cornerbacks. It's such a long term 2493 02:00:50,120 --> 02:00:52,840 Speaker 1: need for the team and for you know, even if 2494 02:00:52,880 --> 02:00:55,040 Speaker 1: Sean Wade isn't setting the world on fire, if he's 2495 02:00:55,120 --> 02:00:56,800 Speaker 1: just good, it might, you know, it really might be 2496 02:00:56,880 --> 02:00:59,920 Speaker 1: worth keeping him around, developing him. It's it's a position 2497 02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:01,800 Speaker 1: where they've had a lot of turn over the last 2498 02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:07,920 Speaker 1: couple of years. Mayfield play action. That's a pretty good 2499 02:01:07,960 --> 02:01:12,840 Speaker 1: little throw. Wow, found eighty four Kyle Duck Scambridge. This 2500 02:01:13,000 --> 02:01:18,000 Speaker 1: is what happens when I get really opinionated the opposite. 2501 02:01:19,320 --> 02:01:22,320 Speaker 1: The Patriots were dominating until they weren't dominating. Those are 2502 02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:25,200 Speaker 1: that stuff that they're running now at Baker. That's a 2503 02:01:25,240 --> 02:01:32,160 Speaker 1: lot of Cleveland stuff. That's yeah. Stephen Sullivan, it's Stephen. 2504 02:01:34,160 --> 02:01:39,160 Speaker 1: You might want to look at the depth chart, Stephen, Stephen, Alright, 2505 02:01:39,200 --> 02:01:41,960 Speaker 1: they're down about the three yard line now, Carolina. Actually 2506 02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:46,760 Speaker 1: it's Stefan. It is it's Stefan. I'm looking at the 2507 02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:51,000 Speaker 1: hottest new club in Carolina. A little handoff up the 2508 02:01:51,080 --> 02:01:54,960 Speaker 1: medal to McCaffrey and he scampers in from the four 2509 02:01:55,080 --> 02:02:00,560 Speaker 1: yard line. John a little to the play again, Jarwing. 2510 02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:05,120 Speaker 1: I think that that's a good. That's a good. You know, 2511 02:02:05,200 --> 02:02:08,120 Speaker 1: cooler heads prevailing, Bill Belichick, Steve Belichick to Rob Mayo 2512 02:02:08,200 --> 02:02:12,919 Speaker 1: standing over there. Yeah, not the not a panic button situation. 2513 02:02:13,000 --> 02:02:15,360 Speaker 1: But the run defense today has not been as good 2514 02:02:15,360 --> 02:02:18,280 Speaker 1: as it was yesterday. The Panthers have have broken off 2515 02:02:18,360 --> 02:02:21,160 Speaker 1: some runs, and you know McCaffrey's gonna eventually find some 2516 02:02:21,280 --> 02:02:24,080 Speaker 1: space and make some plays what he does. Yeah, that 2517 02:02:24,200 --> 02:02:26,080 Speaker 1: one looked like he probably would have scored it in. 2518 02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:31,560 Speaker 1: All right, they're going again, goal line again from the 2519 02:02:31,680 --> 02:02:37,000 Speaker 1: about three yard line. I gotta think Jewble Hubbard in 2520 02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:42,880 Speaker 1: there now. Good coverage. Yeah, they've been all over those 2521 02:02:42,920 --> 02:02:48,440 Speaker 1: boot plays not today. There you go. Nice job, guys, 2522 02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:50,520 Speaker 1: and uh, all right, looks like we're gonna get some 2523 02:02:50,640 --> 02:02:54,080 Speaker 1: Sam Donald action now. So it's really okay if they 2524 02:02:54,360 --> 02:02:56,160 Speaker 1: if they don't want to do that, Patriots first team 2525 02:02:56,160 --> 02:03:00,440 Speaker 1: offense will have to wait. Um Mike, that was not Hubbard. 2526 02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:04,360 Speaker 1: Hubbard is gone. Um so you got tossed? Yes, that 2527 02:03:04,640 --> 02:03:08,960 Speaker 1: was Deonta Foreman. Yeah, okay, we know him him. Yeah, 2528 02:03:09,680 --> 02:03:13,720 Speaker 1: hub im sure, there's a lot of fantasy people out there. 2529 02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:15,920 Speaker 1: What about last scene running for about two hundred yards 2530 02:03:15,960 --> 02:03:20,360 Speaker 1: against the page here? Yeah? Was that Houston, Tennessee, Tennessee? 2531 02:03:21,200 --> 02:03:28,600 Speaker 1: Oh right, yep, get my Foreman's mixed up? It was better. Yeah, 2532 02:03:28,600 --> 02:03:31,840 Speaker 1: I don't think that was Again, you're gonna get a hold. Yeah, 2533 02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:33,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that. I don't think that play was 2534 02:03:33,560 --> 02:03:36,240 Speaker 1: going anywhere. Call is another one who just you know 2535 02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:39,240 Speaker 1: Pops from time to time. Yeah, when they let him 2536 02:03:39,480 --> 02:03:41,200 Speaker 1: get vertical, when they let him just get up the 2537 02:03:41,240 --> 02:03:43,440 Speaker 1: field and shoot gaps and rush the passer, he's a 2538 02:03:43,920 --> 02:03:46,960 Speaker 1: really effective player. It's funny how many players have that, 2539 02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, when they let him, when they let him 2540 02:03:48,400 --> 02:03:50,720 Speaker 1: do what he's good at. You, yeah, don't don't. Don't 2541 02:03:50,720 --> 02:03:52,760 Speaker 1: ask him to two gaping hole and you'll build a 2542 02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:54,800 Speaker 1: wall and they make him just stand there. I don't 2543 02:03:54,800 --> 02:04:00,520 Speaker 1: wondry about technique in any way, shape or for him. So, yeah, 2544 02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:02,560 Speaker 1: this continues to be a little bit of I'm gonna 2545 02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:04,400 Speaker 1: call it the second team there's a smattering of starters, 2546 02:04:04,480 --> 02:04:07,960 Speaker 1: but you're getting Mac Wilson, Gilanni Tavai, who somehow I 2547 02:04:08,000 --> 02:04:09,760 Speaker 1: avoided a major injury last week. I don't know how. 2548 02:04:09,800 --> 02:04:11,560 Speaker 1: He's just right back in there. Seems fine, but good 2549 02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:14,760 Speaker 1: for him. A little screen and foreman can't hold on 2550 02:04:14,800 --> 02:04:19,120 Speaker 1: to it. That falls for nothing. I'm yelling at my son. 2551 02:04:20,880 --> 02:04:22,400 Speaker 1: What is he saying? He thinks Baker he wants to 2552 02:04:22,480 --> 02:04:25,120 Speaker 1: draft Baker Mayfield and fantasy or try to talk him 2553 02:04:25,120 --> 02:04:28,680 Speaker 1: out of it. Hey, you're making fun of the fantasy 2554 02:04:28,760 --> 02:04:31,880 Speaker 1: guys this time of year. I don't drive the most 2555 02:04:32,080 --> 02:04:35,400 Speaker 1: clicks to our website, probably than any other group. I'll 2556 02:04:35,440 --> 02:04:37,680 Speaker 1: say this. I'll say this to you, probably for the 2557 02:04:37,760 --> 02:04:39,560 Speaker 1: first time. You're saying it to Mike for about the 2558 02:04:39,800 --> 02:04:42,800 Speaker 1: three thousand and nine. Don't confuse clicks with good kind 2559 02:04:46,120 --> 02:04:48,080 Speaker 1: those those two things are not the same. This is 2560 02:04:48,120 --> 02:04:49,880 Speaker 1: a tough team though, for the I mean the Patriots 2561 02:04:49,880 --> 02:04:51,760 Speaker 1: and Evan you said everything like they got great two 2562 02:04:51,840 --> 02:04:54,520 Speaker 1: to five. I mean, you know any you're rolling the 2563 02:04:54,640 --> 02:04:57,080 Speaker 1: dice with any Patriots player. I feel like this season 2564 02:04:57,520 --> 02:05:02,320 Speaker 1: Blitz got it up. Good job. There's a flag thrown 2565 02:05:02,440 --> 02:05:06,360 Speaker 1: on La a game rough in the pass and then 2566 02:05:06,400 --> 02:05:08,360 Speaker 1: that was Terence Mitchell came up on the eighty five. 2567 02:05:08,440 --> 02:05:12,840 Speaker 1: That's nice. Nice stuff. Kind of held us ground too, like, 2568 02:05:14,200 --> 02:05:17,680 Speaker 1: Oh and we're joined by oh Hardy from nine eight 2569 02:05:17,800 --> 02:05:21,000 Speaker 1: points five the sports Hub flagship. There's a show going 2570 02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:25,480 Speaker 1: today for you guys TV. That's yeah with this keen football. 2571 02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:34,120 Speaker 1: I noticed today fight Hearty's the best somehow he's he 2572 02:05:34,200 --> 02:05:36,000 Speaker 1: does what it was it called djaying? What is that? 2573 02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:39,720 Speaker 1: You play like music and talk about it? Oh wow? 2574 02:05:40,240 --> 02:05:42,960 Speaker 1: See another one from your plays with the boots. Just 2575 02:05:43,080 --> 02:05:45,400 Speaker 1: they got a well covered boots. You don't want to 2576 02:05:45,520 --> 02:05:47,720 Speaker 1: cut the field in half against the Patriots secondary, it 2577 02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:50,520 Speaker 1: seems like they have those plays really well covered. Their 2578 02:05:50,560 --> 02:05:53,920 Speaker 1: whole coverage system is based off of leverage. So when 2579 02:05:53,960 --> 02:05:55,960 Speaker 1: you have guys that are sitting outside leverage and then 2580 02:05:55,960 --> 02:05:58,520 Speaker 1: you're coming towards, you know, having receivers cut out towards 2581 02:05:58,600 --> 02:06:01,120 Speaker 1: them into that leverage, are just sitting there waiting for 2582 02:06:01,200 --> 02:06:03,880 Speaker 1: the guy. I mean, there's no whereas they're supposed to go. 2583 02:06:06,720 --> 02:06:10,600 Speaker 1: All right, Donald, getting another another rep in here, get 2584 02:06:10,640 --> 02:06:13,839 Speaker 1: your Bill Peppers in the middle of it. Mac Wilson 2585 02:06:14,160 --> 02:06:19,080 Speaker 1: like seeing those two guys together. Emotional toss week at 2586 02:06:21,000 --> 02:06:25,680 Speaker 1: was that on the strong side lean Raynie. I believe 2587 02:06:25,880 --> 02:06:30,080 Speaker 1: it was Ronnie Perkins. Nice play, probably one of the 2588 02:06:30,160 --> 02:06:32,240 Speaker 1: few times that I've really seen Ronnie stand out that 2589 02:06:32,320 --> 02:06:34,240 Speaker 1: was that was exactly what they're looking for there on 2590 02:06:34,280 --> 02:06:35,600 Speaker 1: the edge, you know. I thought it was interesting. I 2591 02:06:35,600 --> 02:06:36,960 Speaker 1: think it was I think it was Mike Reese who 2592 02:06:37,040 --> 02:06:39,800 Speaker 1: maybe wrote about about Ronnie saying, you know, seeing him 2593 02:06:39,800 --> 02:06:42,080 Speaker 1: in the locker room, he's just an absolute adonis. But 2594 02:06:42,800 --> 02:06:44,400 Speaker 1: when we watch him, he just doesn't seem to have 2595 02:06:44,520 --> 02:06:46,960 Speaker 1: that size from from you know, on the field. It's 2596 02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:52,160 Speaker 1: just it doesn't really you know, visually translate. But because 2597 02:06:52,160 --> 02:06:54,040 Speaker 1: I think I saw he's like six two two fifty 2598 02:06:54,080 --> 02:06:56,080 Speaker 1: something in that range, I mean, he's just I guess 2599 02:06:56,120 --> 02:06:59,320 Speaker 1: he carries it well. But all right, four down line, 2600 02:06:59,400 --> 02:07:02,880 Speaker 1: now Donald quick pass at least got that one. Yeah, 2601 02:07:04,040 --> 02:07:08,440 Speaker 1: nice throw by Donald. It's like they beat Marcus Jones 2602 02:07:08,520 --> 02:07:12,200 Speaker 1: and coverage across the formation, and that looks like that'll 2603 02:07:12,440 --> 02:07:15,200 Speaker 1: do it for the Panthers offense. As Mac and the 2604 02:07:15,280 --> 02:07:18,640 Speaker 1: Patriots offense is now going to take the field. Not 2605 02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:23,280 Speaker 1: a crowd getting fired up for some Patriots offense action now, 2606 02:07:23,320 --> 02:07:24,960 Speaker 1: and it looks like they're gonna start about the twenty yards. 2607 02:07:25,000 --> 02:07:26,440 Speaker 1: I heard the crowd reaction. I was like, do we 2608 02:07:26,520 --> 02:07:29,160 Speaker 1: have another one? Now? Fred's up here? Now, isn't he? 2609 02:07:29,760 --> 02:07:32,520 Speaker 1: Did Fred start the fight? Is that we're hearing not 2610 02:07:32,680 --> 02:07:35,320 Speaker 1: as dominant by any means for the Patriots defense today 2611 02:07:35,360 --> 02:07:38,440 Speaker 1: and the Panthers and made some plays. Yeah, here's Rock 2612 02:07:38,560 --> 02:07:40,880 Speaker 1: all snartic on you. This would be my first snark 2613 02:07:40,920 --> 02:07:44,160 Speaker 1: we have. It's amazing how different Marcus Jones look when 2614 02:07:44,160 --> 02:07:47,720 Speaker 1: the pass was to the outside of state, sing, it's 2615 02:07:47,720 --> 02:07:53,600 Speaker 1: not even towards me, Poor Marcus, Poor Marcus. All right, 2616 02:07:53,840 --> 02:07:55,880 Speaker 1: two ten ends and we got a wards over right 2617 02:07:57,720 --> 02:08:00,240 Speaker 1: that play it looked like I had promise twenty five 2618 02:08:00,280 --> 02:08:03,000 Speaker 1: came in. That's probably a decent game that but that 2619 02:08:03,400 --> 02:08:05,440 Speaker 1: that's getting the problem you get you get three or 2620 02:08:05,480 --> 02:08:08,040 Speaker 1: four yards. They are based on the push. I wouldn't. Yeah, 2621 02:08:08,360 --> 02:08:10,160 Speaker 1: I don't always disagree with you, but that's the problem 2622 02:08:10,240 --> 02:08:12,760 Speaker 1: that they've been having on the zone runs is getting 2623 02:08:12,840 --> 02:08:16,160 Speaker 1: up to that second and that level defender cutting them off. 2624 02:08:16,640 --> 02:08:20,600 Speaker 1: They just the point of attack has not been been terrible. 2625 02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:23,320 Speaker 1: It's it's really the the climbs in the in the 2626 02:08:23,400 --> 02:08:26,160 Speaker 1: combination blox that they have to work on the interior 2627 02:08:26,600 --> 02:08:29,360 Speaker 1: and with the tackles and they just haven't been able 2628 02:08:29,400 --> 02:08:31,400 Speaker 1: to really get up to that safety or get up 2629 02:08:31,400 --> 02:08:33,440 Speaker 1: to that linebacker to really spring it. So does that 2630 02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:35,200 Speaker 1: give you concern going to the right side with the 2631 02:08:35,240 --> 02:08:37,560 Speaker 1: athleticism of you know, say Andrews and on, when you 2632 02:08:37,720 --> 02:08:40,080 Speaker 1: being able to get to that second level consistently? Yeah, 2633 02:08:40,360 --> 02:08:43,280 Speaker 1: you know it's I don't like that throw away nothing there, 2634 02:08:43,320 --> 02:08:45,320 Speaker 1: And I think that this flags all over the place. 2635 02:08:45,560 --> 02:08:49,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what if there's potential grounding right, No, 2636 02:08:50,240 --> 02:08:53,680 Speaker 1: I think I think twenty five got call for an 2637 02:08:53,680 --> 02:08:56,640 Speaker 1: illegal contact. Probably that sounds right for the Panthers, but 2638 02:08:56,720 --> 02:08:59,280 Speaker 1: I think they also have an offensive interference on the page. 2639 02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:02,000 Speaker 1: Oh an illegal and downfield. There's a lot of wet 2640 02:09:02,560 --> 02:09:04,160 Speaker 1: of laundry on the ground here. There's a lot of 2641 02:09:04,200 --> 02:09:06,840 Speaker 1: stuff going on down there. What are we doing? Unfortunately 2642 02:09:06,920 --> 02:09:09,720 Speaker 1: we don't get the explanation on the no, but I 2643 02:09:09,760 --> 02:09:11,240 Speaker 1: think it would be really I thought he was pointing 2644 02:09:11,280 --> 02:09:13,160 Speaker 1: to twenty five and then twenty five is pointing the 2645 02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:16,160 Speaker 1: other team. I thought the back judge here was calling 2646 02:09:16,240 --> 02:09:19,360 Speaker 1: an interference on the Patriots. Uh, well, there's a lot 2647 02:09:19,440 --> 02:09:22,280 Speaker 1: of contact in this. Oh my god, how did that 2648 02:09:23,400 --> 02:09:25,240 Speaker 1: haggler just caught a fade in the back corn of 2649 02:09:25,240 --> 02:09:28,360 Speaker 1: the end zone between three Panthers defenders team rushing over 2650 02:09:28,480 --> 02:09:32,680 Speaker 1: Jaylen Mills DeVante Parker, and that's an incredible catch up. 2651 02:09:32,760 --> 02:09:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't know how he got that. This pass absolutely 2652 02:09:34,800 --> 02:09:36,880 Speaker 1: should not have that ill advised passes. It was coming on, like, 2653 02:09:36,920 --> 02:09:40,360 Speaker 1: don't throw that one, uh, but somehow he scooped it 2654 02:09:40,440 --> 02:09:44,800 Speaker 1: up and managed to catch it. Keep throwing him. Yeah, 2655 02:09:45,000 --> 02:09:46,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can live on that one. 2656 02:09:46,920 --> 02:09:49,040 Speaker 1: That's an unbelievable catch by igle world. That was a 2657 02:09:49,080 --> 02:09:53,680 Speaker 1: great catch all right. You know again, that tree is 2658 02:09:53,760 --> 02:09:58,360 Speaker 1: really inconvenient. Paul's got to cut that tree down. It's 2659 02:09:58,400 --> 02:10:01,440 Speaker 1: just so random too, like, what's it doing, stupid tree? 2660 02:10:02,120 --> 02:10:05,600 Speaker 1: Purpose tree kind of giving shade to the met well 2661 02:10:05,680 --> 02:10:08,760 Speaker 1: inside zone and out there. Not much for Ramandre Stevenson, 2662 02:10:09,520 --> 02:10:12,520 Speaker 1: certainly not the kind of hole that the Panthers were seeing. 2663 02:10:13,240 --> 02:10:16,920 Speaker 1: How do they run game earlier? But nothing on that one. Um. 2664 02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:21,080 Speaker 1: I want to try to see if they can get 2665 02:10:21,160 --> 02:10:24,240 Speaker 1: something going and some of these that you're getting a 2666 02:10:24,280 --> 02:10:26,160 Speaker 1: little bit lower in the red zone here, I'd like 2667 02:10:26,200 --> 02:10:28,480 Speaker 1: to see them open a hole in the running game. 2668 02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:32,280 Speaker 1: We haven't really seen very many of those ye as 2669 02:10:32,280 --> 02:10:34,680 Speaker 1: opposed to spread them out and then running an inside 2670 02:10:34,760 --> 02:10:37,920 Speaker 1: draw that you know you catch the other team, you know, 2671 02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:40,160 Speaker 1: in a bad personnel situation. I'd like to see them 2672 02:10:40,200 --> 02:10:43,800 Speaker 1: line up and open a hole back under center, a 2673 02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:47,600 Speaker 1: toss goof. It's a nice play by the corner to 2674 02:10:47,720 --> 02:10:51,160 Speaker 1: jump inside. Corner turned him inside. There was another guy 2675 02:10:51,240 --> 02:10:53,440 Speaker 1: there to make a play, and you know, Stevenson's tough 2676 02:10:53,480 --> 02:10:55,400 Speaker 1: guy to bring down. I'm not saying that would have 2677 02:10:55,440 --> 02:10:58,200 Speaker 1: been a loss or anything, because I think Stevenson might 2678 02:10:58,240 --> 02:11:00,240 Speaker 1: have been able to break a tackle there. But there's 2679 02:11:00,240 --> 02:11:02,520 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of blue shirts around the ball. Yeah, 2680 02:11:02,840 --> 02:11:05,120 Speaker 1: that's all you can do. Trent pulls out like that. 2681 02:11:05,240 --> 02:11:07,480 Speaker 1: You just kind of get it around, slip it. You 2682 02:11:07,520 --> 02:11:10,760 Speaker 1: know you're not gonna take them head on. So yeah, 2683 02:11:10,800 --> 02:11:12,800 Speaker 1: Trent's was standing in front of me and Fred yesterday 2684 02:11:12,840 --> 02:11:15,320 Speaker 1: during the James White ceremony and we had half security 2685 02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:16,880 Speaker 1: asked him to get the hell out of the way, 2686 02:11:16,960 --> 02:11:19,520 Speaker 1: but that didn't go so well. Now we had to 2687 02:11:19,680 --> 02:11:23,440 Speaker 1: sit with Fred Durner. It's just a giant all right 2688 02:11:23,560 --> 02:11:29,600 Speaker 1: back from the four shot him one two nothing. Oh boys, 2689 02:11:29,880 --> 02:11:32,880 Speaker 1: nice job switching that off by Carolina Secondary that's a 2690 02:11:33,960 --> 02:11:37,800 Speaker 1: nothing open there. M Yeah, good job by the Panthers 2691 02:11:37,840 --> 02:11:41,280 Speaker 1: have been better I think defensively today they were yesterday. Yep. Um, 2692 02:11:41,400 --> 02:11:45,360 Speaker 1: not as many guys completely uncovered. Yeah, I think a 2693 02:11:45,400 --> 02:11:47,240 Speaker 1: little bit, you know, a little bit like what we've 2694 02:11:47,280 --> 02:11:49,240 Speaker 1: seen earlier this summer in that, you know, seven on 2695 02:11:49,360 --> 02:11:51,160 Speaker 1: sevens maybe looks a little bit more crisp in the 2696 02:11:51,200 --> 02:11:54,000 Speaker 1: passing game, but just a not a lot going in 2697 02:11:54,040 --> 02:11:55,480 Speaker 1: the running game. Not a lot of big holes. It's 2698 02:11:55,480 --> 02:11:57,520 Speaker 1: not a lot of easy carries for the running backs. 2699 02:11:57,560 --> 02:12:00,080 Speaker 1: And yeah, Caroline's fuzzing a little bit. Yeah, Nick, it 2700 02:12:00,200 --> 02:12:04,240 Speaker 1: just continues to uh could just be in there, Lion's 2701 02:12:04,240 --> 02:12:06,760 Speaker 1: share of the work at right tackle with with Win 2702 02:12:06,880 --> 02:12:12,840 Speaker 1: out and Haran not dressed, we're going from about the 2703 02:12:12,920 --> 02:12:15,800 Speaker 1: three now Mac and the shotgun I'm smelling as you 2704 02:12:15,920 --> 02:12:20,200 Speaker 1: in the back end of the end zone roll right. Yeah, 2705 02:12:20,760 --> 02:12:22,120 Speaker 1: I don't think they would have gotten in, but that 2706 02:12:22,200 --> 02:12:25,520 Speaker 1: was a but you know, good, Yeah, good time Montgomery caught. 2707 02:12:25,560 --> 02:12:27,960 Speaker 1: It continues to be active draft them in your fantasy 2708 02:12:27,960 --> 02:12:30,000 Speaker 1: to unless that happen, unless that happen to be third 2709 02:12:30,080 --> 02:12:33,560 Speaker 1: or fourth down. Yeah, and that'll do it for Mac 2710 02:12:33,600 --> 02:12:36,760 Speaker 1: in the offense. So yeah, not uh yeah, not a 2711 02:12:36,880 --> 02:12:39,760 Speaker 1: status session. Not as good as the last set of elevens. 2712 02:12:39,800 --> 02:12:41,600 Speaker 1: I thought, faim Zapp, he's going to get this uh 2713 02:12:42,120 --> 02:12:45,320 Speaker 1: this chance here too, Yeah, Zappy coming in. I know 2714 02:12:45,440 --> 02:12:48,720 Speaker 1: that there's value to this for them obviously to work 2715 02:12:48,800 --> 02:12:50,280 Speaker 1: so much in the red zone, but there's just no 2716 02:12:50,440 --> 02:12:52,400 Speaker 1: space to do anything. And it's like if you don't 2717 02:12:52,600 --> 02:12:54,320 Speaker 1: you have, like you go into the game, you probably 2718 02:12:54,360 --> 02:12:56,640 Speaker 1: have like five good red zone calls and the Patriots 2719 02:12:56,640 --> 02:12:59,080 Speaker 1: don't want to give away all the other people and 2720 02:12:59,200 --> 02:13:02,320 Speaker 1: the practice and then you your column and then like 2721 02:13:02,480 --> 02:13:05,320 Speaker 1: everything else is just covered. You know, it's really, what 2722 02:13:05,440 --> 02:13:12,200 Speaker 1: are we doing? It's another sack? Oh boy oh twenty 2723 02:13:12,280 --> 02:13:21,800 Speaker 1: nine Jackie Smith, Duke Dawson, sickest man in America. These 2724 02:13:21,840 --> 02:13:24,400 Speaker 1: players are different though, these high red zone players. The 2725 02:13:24,520 --> 02:13:27,160 Speaker 1: Patriots need to be better. I mean this is happy 2726 02:13:27,320 --> 02:13:30,360 Speaker 1: right now, but in general, the offense could really be 2727 02:13:30,480 --> 02:13:32,520 Speaker 1: better this season. I think from this field position and 2728 02:13:33,200 --> 02:13:35,920 Speaker 1: avoid some of the inside the five, inside the ten stuff. 2729 02:13:36,520 --> 02:13:38,560 Speaker 1: Well that's why it's like why we got why we 2730 02:13:38,680 --> 02:13:41,320 Speaker 1: got see the other part of it on the practice field, 2731 02:13:41,400 --> 02:13:44,400 Speaker 1: like Damian Harris had fifteen touchdowns last year. Yeah, so 2732 02:13:45,360 --> 02:13:47,480 Speaker 1: you're not really, they're not lining up and pounding away 2733 02:13:47,560 --> 02:13:50,440 Speaker 1: inside the five here, you know, to your point of 2734 02:13:50,640 --> 02:13:53,840 Speaker 1: they're trying to like condense it through you know, really 2735 02:13:53,920 --> 02:13:56,960 Speaker 1: tight spaces almost exclusively in the passing game. Yeah, which 2736 02:13:57,040 --> 02:13:58,880 Speaker 1: is hard to do when I think the defense knows 2737 02:13:58,960 --> 02:14:02,440 Speaker 1: that too. Yeah. Yeah. I remember last year in Philadelphia, 2738 02:14:02,600 --> 02:14:06,160 Speaker 1: and I think maybe Bill said yesterday that they weren't 2739 02:14:06,160 --> 02:14:07,920 Speaker 1: going to do any real goal line right, you know, 2740 02:14:08,040 --> 02:14:10,480 Speaker 1: balls at the one yard line pounded in. But last 2741 02:14:10,520 --> 02:14:12,760 Speaker 1: year in Philadelphia and those joint practices, they did a 2742 02:14:12,800 --> 02:14:15,000 Speaker 1: lot of goal line work that in that type of 2743 02:14:15,120 --> 02:14:18,120 Speaker 1: situational stuff. So I wonder if maybe next week against 2744 02:14:18,160 --> 02:14:20,920 Speaker 1: the Raiders, is they're gonna get into more of that 2745 02:14:21,080 --> 02:14:23,680 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But like you said, Paul, at the 2746 02:14:23,760 --> 02:14:26,320 Speaker 1: end of the day, Damian Harris off of Trent Brown's 2747 02:14:26,720 --> 02:14:29,040 Speaker 1: left or right shoulder, Like, that's gonna be tough to 2748 02:14:29,080 --> 02:14:31,600 Speaker 1: stop you. I like this next little jump cut, yah, Hotgomery. 2749 02:14:31,800 --> 02:14:34,000 Speaker 1: I like the Patriots ability to run the ball into 2750 02:14:34,080 --> 02:14:36,040 Speaker 1: the end zone from inside the five. Yeah. I think 2751 02:14:36,040 --> 02:14:38,760 Speaker 1: they've been pretty successful with that the last few years. Yeah, 2752 02:14:38,840 --> 02:14:40,480 Speaker 1: But I think it's worth questioning what's it, you know, 2753 02:14:40,560 --> 02:14:42,440 Speaker 1: what's it look like without a fullback or you know, 2754 02:14:42,960 --> 02:14:45,440 Speaker 1: it's it's probably gonna look something different in that short 2755 02:14:45,520 --> 02:14:48,720 Speaker 1: yard is stuff. I just think that's the easiest call 2756 02:14:48,800 --> 02:14:51,800 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Running behind seventy seven and just let him, 2757 02:14:52,160 --> 02:14:55,120 Speaker 1: let him do the work and see that giant person. Yeah, 2758 02:14:55,680 --> 02:14:58,600 Speaker 1: running behind him, all right, So zappi's about at the 2759 02:14:58,920 --> 02:15:01,920 Speaker 1: seven yard line? Is he continues to work here, I'd 2760 02:15:01,960 --> 02:15:05,280 Speaker 1: look for Tae Kwon Thornton here? Yeah? Is that the 2761 02:15:06,480 --> 02:15:13,560 Speaker 1: formation Thornton a little whip route and little dn't see 2762 02:15:14,280 --> 02:15:17,080 Speaker 1: a little lately, but it looked behind him because flag 2763 02:15:17,280 --> 02:15:19,680 Speaker 1: the tree flag on the play. Yeah, I was on 2764 02:15:19,760 --> 02:15:24,920 Speaker 1: the defense apparently. Yeah, yeah, the the side. The tree's 2765 02:15:24,920 --> 02:15:27,520 Speaker 1: blocking you again, Paul, that tree's getting you again. I 2766 02:15:27,640 --> 02:15:29,800 Speaker 1: can't say the tree might have blocked a little bit 2767 02:15:29,840 --> 02:15:34,440 Speaker 1: of interference. Dumb tree and we got the throw was 2768 02:15:34,560 --> 02:15:37,960 Speaker 1: to the wrong side. It's a little Mayfield ask. Yeah. 2769 02:15:38,000 --> 02:15:41,000 Speaker 1: I just I just continue to feel like that for 2770 02:15:41,040 --> 02:15:43,560 Speaker 1: your TV. I like that Montgomery just he he just 2771 02:15:43,720 --> 02:15:45,440 Speaker 1: has a different level of comfort. I feel like with 2772 02:15:45,520 --> 02:15:47,440 Speaker 1: this run game right now. I don't know, maybe I'm crazy, 2773 02:15:47,520 --> 02:15:49,600 Speaker 1: but I feel like some of his carries, he just 2774 02:15:49,760 --> 02:15:52,120 Speaker 1: looks comfortable with what's coming at him and what's there? 2775 02:15:52,280 --> 02:15:53,640 Speaker 1: Do you like him more in the run game or 2776 02:15:53,680 --> 02:15:56,240 Speaker 1: the passing game? The pass game, but I just I 2777 02:15:56,320 --> 02:15:58,280 Speaker 1: think he has more of an ability to to maybe 2778 02:15:58,320 --> 02:16:01,680 Speaker 1: fit what they're doing run wise. I played By twenty 2779 02:16:01,760 --> 02:16:08,760 Speaker 1: three as a break up on Stanley Thomas all of that. Hammond, Stantley, Stantley, 2780 02:16:08,760 --> 02:16:13,200 Speaker 1: there's a team in there. Stant What was the intended 2781 02:16:13,240 --> 02:16:16,920 Speaker 1: receiver there? I think it was I want to say 2782 02:16:16,960 --> 02:16:18,720 Speaker 1: it was eighty. I believe yeah, I think it was 2783 02:16:18,800 --> 02:16:23,600 Speaker 1: eighty as well. Josh Hammond definitely eight. So we're that'll 2784 02:16:23,600 --> 02:16:25,920 Speaker 1: probably be the extent of my analysis of that played 2785 02:16:25,960 --> 02:16:27,560 Speaker 1: that it looks like we're kicking field goals. I don't 2786 02:16:27,560 --> 02:16:29,560 Speaker 1: know if I don't know if this is if they 2787 02:16:29,560 --> 02:16:31,640 Speaker 1: were for calling us a day here with field goals 2788 02:16:31,680 --> 02:16:32,880 Speaker 1: at the end, or if they'll get back into it. 2789 02:16:33,240 --> 02:16:34,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you're gonna get field goals and then 2790 02:16:35,000 --> 02:16:37,560 Speaker 1: maybe maybe a two minute like yesterday. I don't know. 2791 02:16:37,800 --> 02:16:40,120 Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see how yesterday. I just went on 2792 02:16:40,320 --> 02:16:42,680 Speaker 1: and on and on and on after it seemed like 2793 02:16:42,760 --> 02:16:47,279 Speaker 1: it was coming to a Now, guys, question, does anybody 2794 02:16:47,320 --> 02:16:49,200 Speaker 1: think that we got Tristan Viiskay and you're getting ready 2795 02:16:49,240 --> 02:16:50,840 Speaker 1: to kick it. Have we seen anything to make you 2796 02:16:50,920 --> 02:16:52,959 Speaker 1: think that that Nick Folk might be in an actual 2797 02:16:53,000 --> 02:16:59,120 Speaker 1: competition with tristaniskyging I really haven't. Um. I think Focus 2798 02:16:59,240 --> 02:17:02,440 Speaker 1: looks as consistent as he's been as a Patriot. Yeah, 2799 02:17:02,600 --> 02:17:05,520 Speaker 1: in the camp, it's got that dad energy. Yesterday when 2800 02:17:05,680 --> 02:17:08,880 Speaker 1: they released Julian, it was like they can release Julian 2801 02:17:08,959 --> 02:17:11,960 Speaker 1: or the backup kicker, like one of those guys is 2802 02:17:12,440 --> 02:17:14,480 Speaker 1: is gonna go at some point, you know, with with 2803 02:17:14,600 --> 02:17:17,640 Speaker 1: the situations in front of them. And congratulations to Jake 2804 02:17:17,640 --> 02:17:21,320 Speaker 1: Bailey for winning the punt battle. I saw some things 2805 02:17:21,680 --> 02:17:24,840 Speaker 1: out there that were like, uh, you know from Thursday night, 2806 02:17:24,920 --> 02:17:27,120 Speaker 1: like oh, update on the Patriots punter battle. It's like 2807 02:17:27,240 --> 02:17:31,720 Speaker 1: what punter battle? If there was no battle? Why talking 2808 02:17:31,720 --> 02:17:34,040 Speaker 1: about once Jake Bailey signed his extension, it was no 2809 02:17:34,160 --> 02:17:36,080 Speaker 1: more about I need that, like that gift of two 2810 02:17:36,160 --> 02:17:38,400 Speaker 1: kittens like hitting each other. I will ask you guys, 2811 02:17:38,640 --> 02:17:44,040 Speaker 1: um if I if I'm misreading the roster that they 2812 02:17:44,200 --> 02:17:46,680 Speaker 1: look let go with three guys, Like did that get 2813 02:17:46,760 --> 02:17:49,160 Speaker 1: him down to eighty four? I think so. James White's 2814 02:17:49,200 --> 02:17:52,680 Speaker 1: technically not on the reserve list yet they haven't made 2815 02:17:52,760 --> 02:17:55,440 Speaker 1: that move or whatever, he's the eighty fifth guy. Yeah, 2816 02:17:55,480 --> 02:17:57,680 Speaker 1: he's the eighty fifth guy right right now? A right, 2817 02:17:57,760 --> 02:18:00,080 Speaker 1: So I did not misread the schedule, I mean the 2818 02:18:00,280 --> 02:18:03,360 Speaker 1: roster because I thought they had eighty seven and then 2819 02:18:03,360 --> 02:18:07,279 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, with three guys yesterday. There there's something 2820 02:18:07,360 --> 02:18:09,640 Speaker 1: to do. And this gets into the cat Minusha and 2821 02:18:09,720 --> 02:18:11,880 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But there's some sort of bonus that 2822 02:18:12,000 --> 02:18:14,879 Speaker 1: James White has on his deal that might end up 2823 02:18:14,920 --> 02:18:17,600 Speaker 1: being a little bit of a parting grift gift from 2824 02:18:17,600 --> 02:18:21,440 Speaker 1: mister Craft and Belichick. So I think that that might 2825 02:18:21,520 --> 02:18:24,280 Speaker 1: be an element of why he's not on the reserve 2826 02:18:24,360 --> 02:18:28,680 Speaker 1: retired list. He's just not participating technically right now. He's 2827 02:18:28,720 --> 02:18:30,840 Speaker 1: on the active roster. And dude, you asked about the 2828 02:18:30,920 --> 02:18:32,880 Speaker 1: kicker thing, and I think EV and I both agree 2829 02:18:33,440 --> 02:18:36,600 Speaker 1: that Folk looks solid. I will say this guy has 2830 02:18:36,640 --> 02:18:38,960 Speaker 1: made his kicks. Yeah, it's not like he's out here 2831 02:18:39,040 --> 02:18:42,800 Speaker 1: like uh roll Waser a couple of years ago. You know, 2832 02:18:43,000 --> 02:18:48,120 Speaker 1: couldn't you know, really walk couldn't shoot straight. I thought 2833 02:18:48,200 --> 02:18:51,360 Speaker 1: Julian punted the ball pretty well too. And you know, 2834 02:18:51,440 --> 02:18:54,280 Speaker 1: you think about injuries do happen the specialists and having 2835 02:18:54,320 --> 02:18:56,920 Speaker 1: these guys and getting extended looks is at this time 2836 02:18:56,959 --> 02:19:00,480 Speaker 1: of year is good and maybe somebody up back on 2837 02:19:00,520 --> 02:19:03,080 Speaker 1: the practice squad as as I'm good. I just put 2838 02:19:03,120 --> 02:19:07,320 Speaker 1: the kai bosh on him. That one hooked one from 2839 02:19:07,400 --> 02:19:09,920 Speaker 1: forty eight yards. Yeah, and announcers jinks, I guess, I 2840 02:19:09,959 --> 02:19:11,720 Speaker 1: guess My only thing with Folk is uh, you know, 2841 02:19:11,760 --> 02:19:14,960 Speaker 1: and he's been great. I mean, his career has been 2842 02:19:15,040 --> 02:19:17,840 Speaker 1: resurgent here in New England. It's just you wonder and 2843 02:19:17,959 --> 02:19:20,200 Speaker 1: I know, Paul, it's it's it's neither here nor there 2844 02:19:20,240 --> 02:19:22,000 Speaker 1: for you. It's you know, just do you get ahead 2845 02:19:22,000 --> 02:19:24,200 Speaker 1: of the curve? Do you have those few games where 2846 02:19:24,200 --> 02:19:26,320 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, Nick, Folk lost it finally? You know? 2847 02:19:26,400 --> 02:19:29,320 Speaker 1: Do you do you have impactful games where he's missing 2848 02:19:29,400 --> 02:19:31,640 Speaker 1: kicks before you make the move and you know that 2849 02:19:31,760 --> 02:19:34,560 Speaker 1: that's that's the only thing to maybe consider. But I mean, overall, 2850 02:19:34,640 --> 02:19:38,240 Speaker 1: he's been just a shock. I mean when he got here, 2851 02:19:38,280 --> 02:19:40,200 Speaker 1: he was kind of a punchline after some of those 2852 02:19:40,640 --> 02:19:42,840 Speaker 1: you know missus that he had early in his career, 2853 02:19:43,080 --> 02:19:45,959 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay thing, I mean, um go wasn't plays 2854 02:19:46,000 --> 02:19:48,840 Speaker 1: in the af or whatever. It was crazy crazy and 2855 02:19:48,879 --> 02:19:50,520 Speaker 1: then he comes back and he like can't miss I 2856 02:19:50,600 --> 02:19:53,120 Speaker 1: will say if this guy an' you know, bounced back 2857 02:19:53,160 --> 02:19:55,040 Speaker 1: and made a fifty three yard of the close it 2858 02:19:55,080 --> 02:19:56,920 Speaker 1: out there he goes, So he's got some leg It's 2859 02:19:57,320 --> 02:19:59,480 Speaker 1: but the nick folks story, I know it's a kicker 2860 02:19:59,600 --> 02:20:02,440 Speaker 1: and he can't get people are two jazzed up about kickers, 2861 02:20:02,520 --> 02:20:06,080 Speaker 1: but it is really crazy. He wasn't even this good 2862 02:20:06,720 --> 02:20:09,720 Speaker 1: in first NFL. Right, this is the best kicking he's 2863 02:20:09,760 --> 02:20:11,920 Speaker 1: done in his whole career. He's been and he's been 2864 02:20:11,959 --> 02:20:13,880 Speaker 1: a good kicker for a long time. This is the 2865 02:20:13,959 --> 02:20:16,320 Speaker 1: most consistent he's been. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, now he's 2866 02:20:16,480 --> 02:20:19,800 Speaker 1: he's nails. I mean, making fifty plus yarders to win 2867 02:20:19,920 --> 02:20:21,879 Speaker 1: games and things like that. It's it's and I made 2868 02:20:22,040 --> 02:20:24,080 Speaker 1: I made a comment earlier when we were talking about kickers, 2869 02:20:24,120 --> 02:20:25,480 Speaker 1: and I said, like the difference between the best and 2870 02:20:25,560 --> 02:20:29,160 Speaker 1: the worst. A team can absolutely get derailed by a 2871 02:20:29,240 --> 02:20:31,280 Speaker 1: guy who has that. Like every year there's a kicker 2872 02:20:31,320 --> 02:20:33,560 Speaker 1: who has just awful year. Oh yeah, I mean, I mean, 2873 02:20:33,640 --> 02:20:35,800 Speaker 1: and you can fans can talk about that. You can 2874 02:20:35,879 --> 02:20:38,080 Speaker 1: get derailed by by the guy. But I think for 2875 02:20:38,120 --> 02:20:41,160 Speaker 1: the most part, if you look back, there's twenty five 2876 02:20:41,280 --> 02:20:44,160 Speaker 1: guys that make like eighty five percent kicks and you 2877 02:20:44,240 --> 02:20:46,640 Speaker 1: know there's a Justin Tucker who separates himself from the 2878 02:20:46,760 --> 02:20:51,080 Speaker 1: rest um. But you if you get that guy in 2879 02:20:51,200 --> 02:20:53,280 Speaker 1: that year where he misses a bunch of kicks, that 2880 02:20:53,360 --> 02:20:56,160 Speaker 1: can kill a team. The Chargers over the years have 2881 02:20:56,280 --> 02:20:59,160 Speaker 1: had a lot of kicking issues recently as well. So 2882 02:20:59,280 --> 02:21:04,000 Speaker 1: we're onto eleven on elevens as Mills for a while. 2883 02:21:04,440 --> 02:21:08,160 Speaker 1: Nice play, Jalen Mills, he's uh oh, and he puts 2884 02:21:08,240 --> 02:21:10,640 Speaker 1: the ball. I don't know, that might be a little 2885 02:21:10,640 --> 02:21:13,080 Speaker 1: bit too much there. Jalen hunted it right to the 2886 02:21:13,120 --> 02:21:16,040 Speaker 1: ball boy. That was that. It's not even mad at you, 2887 02:21:16,600 --> 02:21:18,640 Speaker 1: uh again. I mean we talked about him a bunch 2888 02:21:18,640 --> 02:21:21,199 Speaker 1: of rolling the show. He just is continuing his strong practice. 2889 02:21:21,240 --> 02:21:23,680 Speaker 1: And uh, John a little bit on the I don't 2890 02:21:23,680 --> 02:21:25,320 Speaker 1: know if he's John. This was one of the Evans 2891 02:21:25,360 --> 02:21:28,040 Speaker 1: pat to where that time I did think there was 2892 02:21:28,120 --> 02:21:30,400 Speaker 1: some pressure caused him to pull the ball down a 2893 02:21:30,440 --> 02:21:33,039 Speaker 1: little bit Donald and then the timing was all off. 2894 02:21:33,120 --> 02:21:36,200 Speaker 1: Anytime you gotta time. Oh wait a minute, we got 2895 02:21:36,280 --> 02:21:38,440 Speaker 1: to the referee blowing the play did here? I don't 2896 02:21:38,480 --> 02:21:40,280 Speaker 1: know what's going on? Twelve men in the huddle? What's 2897 02:21:40,320 --> 02:21:43,360 Speaker 1: going on? The best I think he's I think they're 2898 02:21:43,360 --> 02:21:46,680 Speaker 1: saying it was incomplete, is what they were saying. The 2899 02:21:46,760 --> 02:21:49,800 Speaker 1: best stretch of cornerback play I have ever seen was 2900 02:21:50,040 --> 02:21:54,200 Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmour's twenty nineteen training camp. He had practice whole 2901 02:21:54,280 --> 02:21:57,960 Speaker 1: practices where he was just shutting guys out, like zero catches, 2902 02:21:58,040 --> 02:22:00,120 Speaker 1: zero yards in it, And that's not easy to do 2903 02:22:00,200 --> 02:22:04,680 Speaker 1: against that receiving court. But even enjoy practices and stuff 2904 02:22:04,680 --> 02:22:08,640 Speaker 1: like that. Oh my god, that was my line. Just 2905 02:22:08,879 --> 02:22:12,880 Speaker 1: regard the blood one coming down, my kid. I'm not 2906 02:22:13,000 --> 02:22:15,400 Speaker 1: saying Jaylen Mills has been on that level by any means, 2907 02:22:15,480 --> 02:22:17,520 Speaker 1: but it's been impressive. It's not a good coverage though, 2908 02:22:17,760 --> 02:22:21,120 Speaker 1: Stride for Stride yep. Although DJ Moore looks like he's upset. 2909 02:22:21,959 --> 02:22:23,680 Speaker 1: It's like, I want to buy this. I want to 2910 02:22:23,720 --> 02:22:25,960 Speaker 1: buy on Jayleen Mills being really good. I just like, 2911 02:22:26,440 --> 02:22:28,680 Speaker 1: until we get to real games, I'm not ready to 2912 02:22:29,560 --> 02:22:32,320 Speaker 1: pound the table on anything with the defense, like and 2913 02:22:32,400 --> 02:22:34,800 Speaker 1: then it's no offense to them. It's as much just 2914 02:22:34,959 --> 02:22:38,840 Speaker 1: about how grueling the schedule is, how many challenges there are, 2915 02:22:39,200 --> 02:22:41,040 Speaker 1: how many answers have they had for Tua and the 2916 02:22:41,200 --> 02:22:43,600 Speaker 1: RPOs and all that stuff from Miami. A lot not much. 2917 02:22:43,720 --> 02:22:46,320 Speaker 1: So it's just it needs to be better than than 2918 02:22:46,360 --> 02:22:48,600 Speaker 1: it's been. So until that point, I'm not going to really, 2919 02:22:48,959 --> 02:22:51,600 Speaker 1: you know, start publishing. Unlike you guys, I usually look 2920 02:22:51,640 --> 02:22:54,600 Speaker 1: at the bright side. You guys were always worried about 2921 02:22:54,600 --> 02:22:57,760 Speaker 1: what's going to happen next. Okay, it's right, Just try 2922 02:22:57,800 --> 02:22:59,600 Speaker 1: to live in the moment, right, Paul, No, I mean, 2923 02:22:59,640 --> 02:23:03,200 Speaker 1: you got are absolutely right. Um, the defense has a 2924 02:23:03,240 --> 02:23:05,840 Speaker 1: lot to proof. Let's just leave it at that. I mean, 2925 02:23:05,879 --> 02:23:07,600 Speaker 1: I like what they're doing and it's certainly encouraging and 2926 02:23:07,640 --> 02:23:10,000 Speaker 1: they much rather have that. You know. Then then the 2927 02:23:10,080 --> 02:23:11,720 Speaker 1: offense going up and down the field on them and 2928 02:23:11,760 --> 02:23:13,920 Speaker 1: then getting no pressure and you know what I do, 2929 02:23:14,080 --> 02:23:16,879 Speaker 1: offense doing what they want. But you know, it's it's 2930 02:23:16,920 --> 02:23:19,160 Speaker 1: been a good camp for them. But these guys like 2931 02:23:19,280 --> 02:23:20,959 Speaker 1: Jennings are gonna have to play in these big games 2932 02:23:20,959 --> 02:23:24,880 Speaker 1: and make plays. Yeah, that was a that was very 2933 02:23:24,959 --> 02:23:27,400 Speaker 1: similar to the first player, only the timing was was 2934 02:23:27,560 --> 02:23:31,720 Speaker 1: right and Djo Yeah, the timing was was was not 2935 02:23:31,800 --> 02:23:35,640 Speaker 1: affected by the rush and the separation was there for more. Yeah. 2936 02:23:35,640 --> 02:23:37,280 Speaker 1: So we're seeing Sean Wade out here getting a little 2937 02:23:37,320 --> 02:23:38,880 Speaker 1: run too with with this. Uh, I mean, I don't 2938 02:23:38,879 --> 02:23:40,680 Speaker 1: know if you call them the top offense. Josh Bledsoe's 2939 02:23:40,680 --> 02:23:43,120 Speaker 1: out there too, So I mean there's certainly some some 2940 02:23:43,240 --> 02:23:45,960 Speaker 1: other faces in there working, but you know, they continue 2941 02:23:45,959 --> 02:23:48,360 Speaker 1: to rotate guys through and get guys experienced at the 2942 02:23:48,400 --> 02:23:50,840 Speaker 1: top group. You're seeing Jonathan Jones play some safety right now. 2943 02:23:51,040 --> 02:23:53,160 Speaker 1: Isn't it so funny how you see these two minute 2944 02:23:53,200 --> 02:23:56,680 Speaker 1: drills work all the time and sometimes that first play 2945 02:23:56,840 --> 02:23:58,120 Speaker 1: is all you need and then all of a sudden 2946 02:23:58,120 --> 02:24:00,600 Speaker 1: youre getting a rhythm the drive starter. Yeah, the first 2947 02:24:00,600 --> 02:24:03,000 Speaker 1: two places for this drive were terrible for the Panthers, 2948 02:24:03,040 --> 02:24:05,279 Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden you've got guys creating 2949 02:24:05,320 --> 02:24:08,280 Speaker 1: some separation, you know, And Mike is right, it's not 2950 02:24:08,480 --> 02:24:12,280 Speaker 1: it's it's not all frontline guys out there. Um. I 2951 02:24:12,360 --> 02:24:15,400 Speaker 1: see that throwing the ball a lot to number twelve. 2952 02:24:15,760 --> 02:24:21,039 Speaker 1: Is that Shy Smith from Carolina? So we'll see where 2953 02:24:21,080 --> 02:24:23,720 Speaker 1: where the factors in. He was another guy that day 2954 02:24:23,800 --> 02:24:27,760 Speaker 1: three Patriots slot receiver target that is hot on a 2955 02:24:27,800 --> 02:24:32,600 Speaker 1: lot of people's radar. Yeah, but ye, I mean you 2956 02:24:32,680 --> 02:24:37,520 Speaker 1: get McCardy and Adrian Phillips out here, Sean Wade, Jalen 2957 02:24:37,560 --> 02:24:41,320 Speaker 1: Mills Bath throw nice catch. I do think with Mills though, 2958 02:24:42,280 --> 02:24:44,800 Speaker 1: because we've seen in the past when the Patriots don't 2959 02:24:44,840 --> 02:24:47,240 Speaker 1: have like a dominant shut down corner like a Gilmore 2960 02:24:47,400 --> 02:24:51,840 Speaker 1: revis or Ty Law, that Belichick will put his de 2961 02:24:51,959 --> 02:24:54,640 Speaker 1: facto number one on their number two and then maybe 2962 02:24:54,720 --> 02:24:57,280 Speaker 1: bracket the number one receiver or something like that. And 2963 02:24:57,600 --> 02:24:59,880 Speaker 1: what we've seen from Mills in camp, I think it 2964 02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:03,080 Speaker 1: at least gives you enough optimism that they could run 2965 02:25:03,200 --> 02:25:05,960 Speaker 1: with that game plan this season where they're able to, 2966 02:25:06,560 --> 02:25:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, be trusting Jalen Mills to take Robbie Anderson. 2967 02:25:10,640 --> 02:25:12,640 Speaker 1: Let's say if there this is an actual game against 2968 02:25:12,720 --> 02:25:15,920 Speaker 1: Carolina on an island, when they have a bracket or 2969 02:25:15,920 --> 02:25:17,760 Speaker 1: a guy over the top of Dj Moore, I would 2970 02:25:17,800 --> 02:25:20,040 Speaker 1: put him very high on the list of important guys 2971 02:25:20,080 --> 02:25:23,920 Speaker 1: to not get hurt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely an 2972 02:25:23,920 --> 02:25:26,560 Speaker 1: important player. Like when they play Buffalo, like you put 2973 02:25:26,640 --> 02:25:29,000 Speaker 1: Jalen Mills on Gabe Davis and then you double digs 2974 02:25:29,080 --> 02:25:31,440 Speaker 1: and that's that's your game plan and maybe they can 2975 02:25:31,520 --> 02:25:34,600 Speaker 1: get it get away with that. Well a nice throw, 2976 02:25:34,680 --> 02:25:37,800 Speaker 1: that's a good play. Yeah, and again a really good 2977 02:25:37,840 --> 02:25:40,720 Speaker 1: pocket to work with. So so this's a life situation. 2978 02:25:40,760 --> 02:25:43,720 Speaker 1: The Panthers completely pass down to the twelve. Donald rushing 2979 02:25:43,760 --> 02:25:46,680 Speaker 1: to the line is the sam Donold experience that right 2980 02:25:47,120 --> 02:25:49,240 Speaker 1: when there's a clean pocket and he can just sit 2981 02:25:49,320 --> 02:25:51,840 Speaker 1: there and make throws like he's in his backyardready. Actually, 2982 02:25:56,320 --> 02:25:59,200 Speaker 1: Sean Wade just got lost on that play. Yeah, nice 2983 02:25:59,240 --> 02:26:02,920 Speaker 1: catches that eighty three. Dad was like, Wade had his 2984 02:26:03,000 --> 02:26:05,360 Speaker 1: back to the quarterback, just kind of blanking his guy 2985 02:26:05,400 --> 02:26:07,320 Speaker 1: in the back of the end zone and and Darnold 2986 02:26:07,400 --> 02:26:09,480 Speaker 1: just fired it and was able to complete the pass. 2987 02:26:10,200 --> 02:26:12,840 Speaker 1: I guess right over right there. He just didn't know 2988 02:26:12,920 --> 02:26:16,440 Speaker 1: the ball was coming. Yeah, Patriots sideline was upset about something. 2989 02:26:16,520 --> 02:26:18,360 Speaker 1: I think some of the players were looking over there 2990 02:26:18,440 --> 02:26:22,280 Speaker 1: to see what was going on. All right, Well, Mac, 2991 02:26:23,240 --> 02:26:25,240 Speaker 1: so a nice little drive there for the Panthers. I mean, 2992 02:26:25,560 --> 02:26:28,880 Speaker 1: after all the talk of defensive dominance yesterday, the Panthers 2993 02:26:28,920 --> 02:26:31,480 Speaker 1: showing a little bit of ability here in these final 2994 02:26:31,600 --> 02:26:34,360 Speaker 1: driels to move the ball and uh ended with the score. 2995 02:26:34,440 --> 02:26:37,000 Speaker 1: So that's good for them. Now we'll see what Mac 2996 02:26:37,080 --> 02:26:40,520 Speaker 1: and the Patriots offense have as they get ready. So 2997 02:26:40,560 --> 02:26:44,400 Speaker 1: they're starting about from about the thirty nine, Why they 2998 02:26:44,480 --> 02:26:51,440 Speaker 1: like throw it on the thirty nine, that's wherever the 2999 02:26:51,480 --> 02:26:57,400 Speaker 1: ball lands, all right, Aglore motion into the slot. Mac 3000 02:26:57,560 --> 02:27:04,760 Speaker 1: is yeah, complete, completes it on the run to Aglas, 3001 02:27:04,879 --> 02:27:06,920 Speaker 1: just coming across, but that might have been a sack 3002 02:27:07,720 --> 02:27:11,800 Speaker 1: quick pressure looked like a cold strange again, and Born 3003 02:27:11,920 --> 02:27:16,520 Speaker 1: making his Born coming in for Parker. Now he continues 3004 02:27:16,560 --> 02:27:19,160 Speaker 1: to and now he's he's definitely seen some time here 3005 02:27:19,200 --> 02:27:21,720 Speaker 1: with the top unit. Yeah. See, now this is I'd 3006 02:27:21,760 --> 02:27:23,959 Speaker 1: like to see this for Born because we haven't today, 3007 02:27:24,080 --> 02:27:26,160 Speaker 1: we haven't seen a lot of these kinds of opportunities. 3008 02:27:26,760 --> 02:27:31,600 Speaker 1: We're backing the shotgun. He's got time on company. That's 3009 02:27:33,080 --> 02:27:35,520 Speaker 1: that's a good throw. Yeah, absolutely, it's a good play. Yep, 3010 02:27:36,280 --> 02:27:38,480 Speaker 1: it's a nice little's to come back. I think to 3011 02:27:38,959 --> 02:27:41,560 Speaker 1: Aglare along the left sideline, Mac, some good juice on it, 3012 02:27:41,640 --> 02:27:44,440 Speaker 1: getting it in there, nice completion, Aglare gets out of bounds. 3013 02:27:44,920 --> 02:27:47,600 Speaker 1: Good practice. So far from Agalore, he's made quite a 3014 02:27:47,640 --> 02:27:49,760 Speaker 1: few plays. Yeah, I feel I've getten a lot of 3015 02:27:50,480 --> 02:27:53,360 Speaker 1: a lot of heat. I feel like he's been really good. Yeah. Yeah, 3016 02:27:53,560 --> 02:27:56,760 Speaker 1: I can't understand any of the feelings of trading him 3017 02:27:56,840 --> 02:28:00,320 Speaker 1: or moving on from him at this stage. Kobe. That's 3018 02:28:00,400 --> 02:28:02,880 Speaker 1: Jase Horne Jacob saying, yeah, he's been out there and 3019 02:28:02,959 --> 02:28:05,040 Speaker 1: these these teams they think they just saved him for 3020 02:28:05,080 --> 02:28:10,520 Speaker 1: the end of practice. Where's he planning? So they they're 3021 02:28:10,520 --> 02:28:12,440 Speaker 1: playing him in the slot. Huh A little bit, And 3022 02:28:12,520 --> 02:28:16,040 Speaker 1: that's interesting. He's got some Jalen Ramsey in him. Yeah sure, 3023 02:28:16,400 --> 02:28:18,560 Speaker 1: um we we I mean me and Paul were we're 3024 02:28:18,640 --> 02:28:21,800 Speaker 1: big fans of his man. Yeah, he's Mac. Chucks it. 3025 02:28:21,959 --> 02:28:24,600 Speaker 1: Mac immediately pointing to John H. Smith saying that I 3026 02:28:24,720 --> 02:28:27,280 Speaker 1: was I just wanted his fee. Yeah, I mean obviously, 3027 02:28:27,640 --> 02:28:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you drafted Mac. You can't. You can't blame 3028 02:28:29,680 --> 02:28:32,120 Speaker 1: him for that. But I mean I think at that time, 3029 02:28:32,200 --> 02:28:33,800 Speaker 1: though you were looking at I mean, we were ridding 3030 02:28:33,800 --> 02:28:37,360 Speaker 1: the writing on the Wall with Gilmore with with Jase Jackson, 3031 02:28:37,560 --> 02:28:39,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was long gone, and it was like 3032 02:28:40,200 --> 02:28:43,080 Speaker 1: he was they need, they need a young, talented number 3033 02:28:43,120 --> 02:28:44,840 Speaker 1: one man kind of a guy if they want to 3034 02:28:44,879 --> 02:28:47,360 Speaker 1: continue to do what they've been doing. And uh, you 3035 02:28:47,440 --> 02:28:50,000 Speaker 1: know again they went with the quarterback. It's hard to 3036 02:28:50,440 --> 02:28:53,880 Speaker 1: say that that was the wrong choice, but certainly imagine 3037 02:28:53,879 --> 02:28:55,600 Speaker 1: a guy like Jase Horn or at least his potential 3038 02:28:55,680 --> 02:28:58,240 Speaker 1: coming out in his defense would be uh. Panthers definitely 3039 02:28:58,320 --> 02:29:01,680 Speaker 1: getting definitely getting watch much more pressure today. Than they 3040 02:29:01,720 --> 02:29:07,880 Speaker 1: did yesterday. Yeah, yeah, I love jay z Horn coming out. 3041 02:29:08,879 --> 02:29:11,280 Speaker 1: I had Patrick curtain ahead of him. But yeah, we 3042 02:29:11,640 --> 02:29:16,720 Speaker 1: we both like that. That's not you know. Yeah, great 3043 02:29:16,760 --> 02:29:20,560 Speaker 1: player too. It was like Mac on the sideline, we 3044 02:29:20,680 --> 02:29:23,400 Speaker 1: you call it time out. Yeah, he spiked it. And 3045 02:29:23,520 --> 02:29:26,600 Speaker 1: it looks like Matt Patricia got a big play card. 3046 02:29:26,640 --> 02:29:28,600 Speaker 1: So it seems like he's the one calling these plays 3047 02:29:28,600 --> 02:29:31,680 Speaker 1: on Milwaukee Talkie yea for those who are interested the 3048 02:29:31,840 --> 02:29:35,480 Speaker 1: line play though today did These pockets have not been 3049 02:29:35,800 --> 02:29:39,800 Speaker 1: been pretty for Mac during these these team drills. I agree. Yeah, 3050 02:29:39,879 --> 02:29:42,800 Speaker 1: noticing James Farren's getting some run to David Andrews, seems 3051 02:29:42,840 --> 02:29:50,080 Speaker 1: like he's a he was hobbled after one another role rights, 3052 02:29:50,840 --> 02:29:54,400 Speaker 1: that's something went wrong there was that we got a 3053 02:29:54,440 --> 02:29:56,800 Speaker 1: flag on the other side. Mac not happy false start 3054 02:29:56,879 --> 02:29:59,720 Speaker 1: to start on the Patriots or legal procedure of some sort. 3055 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:04,880 Speaker 1: All right, whenever you see two receivers end up in 3056 02:30:04,920 --> 02:30:07,280 Speaker 1: the exact same spot, you know that went wrong. I 3057 02:30:07,320 --> 02:30:09,280 Speaker 1: didn't know what what Parker was doing. I mean, Parker 3058 02:30:09,360 --> 02:30:11,240 Speaker 1: just kind of stopped and stood there. Yeah, it seems 3059 02:30:11,240 --> 02:30:13,680 Speaker 1: like Thornton was expecting Parker to go up the field 3060 02:30:13,720 --> 02:30:16,440 Speaker 1: and clean out the sideline and just fill in underneath it. 3061 02:30:16,560 --> 02:30:18,800 Speaker 1: But that never happened. And as usual, I will tell you, 3062 02:30:19,000 --> 02:30:21,840 Speaker 1: as the quarterback apologist, that it looks like Parker wasn't 3063 02:30:21,879 --> 02:30:25,000 Speaker 1: on the right spot there because quarterback generally throws the 3064 02:30:25,040 --> 02:30:29,120 Speaker 1: ball where it was posted. Yeah, but yeah, something didn't 3065 02:30:29,160 --> 02:30:34,760 Speaker 1: look right on that play. He got Montgomery now in 3066 02:30:34,879 --> 02:30:37,320 Speaker 1: the backfield too. And some of these two minute drills 3067 02:30:40,040 --> 02:30:51,160 Speaker 1: in the pocket putt that pocket was definitely collapsing. I 3068 02:30:51,240 --> 02:30:53,680 Speaker 1: will say that, you know, the pocket's not been great, 3069 02:30:53,959 --> 02:30:56,480 Speaker 1: and you want to give that that caveat, But some 3070 02:30:56,640 --> 02:30:59,640 Speaker 1: of these throws, like Johnny's open there and because he 3071 02:30:59,720 --> 02:31:02,160 Speaker 1: can't step all the way into it and really let 3072 02:31:02,240 --> 02:31:05,480 Speaker 1: it go because of the pocket collapsing, it just doesn't 3073 02:31:05,480 --> 02:31:07,320 Speaker 1: get there. And those are the things that you do 3074 02:31:07,520 --> 02:31:10,840 Speaker 1: worry about sometimes with Mac is when his feet aren't 3075 02:31:10,879 --> 02:31:13,039 Speaker 1: set and he can't really step up into the throw 3076 02:31:13,120 --> 02:31:14,800 Speaker 1: and he's got to just kind of be all arm. 3077 02:31:15,640 --> 02:31:18,520 Speaker 1: The ball doesn't always get there. And that play there, 3078 02:31:19,600 --> 02:31:22,560 Speaker 1: that could have been a nice completion if he's got 3079 02:31:22,640 --> 02:31:24,440 Speaker 1: some more airner under that to get it to Johnny. 3080 02:31:25,200 --> 02:31:29,600 Speaker 1: And this is definitely a ragged two minute drill for 3081 02:31:29,640 --> 02:31:32,520 Speaker 1: the Patriots. They've moved the ball to the nine yard line, 3082 02:31:32,879 --> 02:31:35,280 Speaker 1: but not because of Patriots. Yeah, not by way of 3083 02:31:35,320 --> 02:31:40,760 Speaker 1: any completions. And a touchdown for Parker on a little hook. Yeah, 3084 02:31:41,200 --> 02:31:43,480 Speaker 1: kind of sat right in a little open spot, soft spot. 3085 02:31:45,400 --> 02:31:50,920 Speaker 1: Nice throw by Mac. Got it out quick. Iglore in 3086 02:31:51,000 --> 02:31:53,600 Speaker 1: there for the celebration. They're working on that too. That 3087 02:31:53,760 --> 02:31:55,480 Speaker 1: was by far the best play that they run in 3088 02:31:55,560 --> 02:31:59,000 Speaker 1: that that series of play. Yeah, yeah, that's just Mac right, 3089 02:31:59,040 --> 02:32:02,199 Speaker 1: I mean finding the whole. It's tough with with Parker, 3090 02:32:02,320 --> 02:32:05,080 Speaker 1: especially in this down and distance, because you got to 3091 02:32:05,120 --> 02:32:07,880 Speaker 1: protect the fade and he's just kind of breaks it 3092 02:32:07,959 --> 02:32:10,480 Speaker 1: off there and sits down and that that soft spot, 3093 02:32:10,520 --> 02:32:13,480 Speaker 1: and he's been open a lot on that that exact route, 3094 02:32:13,640 --> 02:32:15,120 Speaker 1: and he should be able to use his body to 3095 02:32:15,200 --> 02:32:18,000 Speaker 1: create some right, create some space for himself. Now the 3096 02:32:18,080 --> 02:32:22,200 Speaker 1: ball was at the two. I think I don't know 3097 02:32:22,240 --> 02:32:24,480 Speaker 1: if he'll consist too too yards. Yeah, I'm back in 3098 02:32:24,480 --> 02:32:26,879 Speaker 1: the shotgun. If this is considered a two point play 3099 02:32:27,800 --> 02:32:29,800 Speaker 1: or it's probably the last going for the Winds, the 3100 02:32:29,959 --> 02:32:35,200 Speaker 1: last player, the two minute drill. I don't like to 3101 02:32:35,240 --> 02:32:37,480 Speaker 1: sprint out so all that this one worked. Yeah, Yeah, 3102 02:32:37,560 --> 02:32:42,680 Speaker 1: he got in, Yeah, he got in that was time 3103 02:32:42,760 --> 02:32:50,240 Speaker 1: Montgomery again. So the last two plays something to build 3104 02:32:50,320 --> 02:32:53,560 Speaker 1: on for the for that two minute drill, I think 3105 02:32:53,600 --> 02:32:57,240 Speaker 1: we'll probably get Mayfield, and you know, I guess it's 3106 02:32:57,240 --> 02:32:59,000 Speaker 1: appy if the way that the rest of the practice 3107 02:32:59,000 --> 02:33:01,480 Speaker 1: has gone before we call it a day here. Yeah, 3108 02:33:01,680 --> 02:33:03,080 Speaker 1: we had a flag on the other side of the 3109 02:33:03,160 --> 02:33:04,520 Speaker 1: field on that plan. I don't know what it was. 3110 02:33:04,959 --> 02:33:08,320 Speaker 1: I think in general these last two days, the timing 3111 02:33:08,840 --> 02:33:11,680 Speaker 1: for Mac has been better, and some of the downfield 3112 02:33:11,720 --> 02:33:14,760 Speaker 1: throws he's made have been have been good. I just 3113 02:33:14,920 --> 02:33:18,039 Speaker 1: think that the protection is still a work in progress, 3114 02:33:18,120 --> 02:33:20,240 Speaker 1: and a lot of the times, like we were talking 3115 02:33:20,240 --> 02:33:23,040 Speaker 1: about just a few minutes ago, when the protection is 3116 02:33:23,120 --> 02:33:26,200 Speaker 1: not clean and the pocket is not really good for him, 3117 02:33:26,680 --> 02:33:28,880 Speaker 1: pushing the football down the field at that point is 3118 02:33:30,120 --> 02:33:32,440 Speaker 1: becomes problematic. And I get that that's true for a 3119 02:33:32,520 --> 02:33:35,840 Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks. But he just would like to see 3120 02:33:35,879 --> 02:33:37,360 Speaker 1: a little bit more zip on the ball when he 3121 02:33:37,440 --> 02:33:41,200 Speaker 1: does have pressure at his feet. I may feel going now, 3122 02:33:43,320 --> 02:33:50,039 Speaker 1: it's a good route, good timing off the sideline. Yeah, 3123 02:33:50,120 --> 02:33:57,480 Speaker 1: justin Bezel playing outside Cornell a training camp experience, big field. 3124 02:33:57,640 --> 02:34:00,760 Speaker 1: Oh he's gonnam One. That's a good throw. Um. You 3125 02:34:00,879 --> 02:34:04,840 Speaker 1: might have got it. Yeah, that was a pretty good 3126 02:34:04,879 --> 02:34:12,840 Speaker 1: throw though just a little late. But we're getting in 3127 02:34:12,879 --> 02:34:15,160 Speaker 1: the proportion now. You don't you don't know how much 3128 02:34:15,200 --> 02:34:19,960 Speaker 1: things got delayed because of the fight. Yeah, that's gonna 3129 02:34:20,000 --> 02:34:21,640 Speaker 1: be this set and then the Patriots will get a 3130 02:34:21,680 --> 02:34:23,400 Speaker 1: set and that'll be That's the way it went yesterday. 3131 02:34:23,400 --> 02:34:26,840 Speaker 1: It was two two each to two minute drills each 3132 02:34:27,360 --> 02:34:31,000 Speaker 1: for the offenses. To close it up. Well, guys, I 3133 02:34:31,040 --> 02:34:32,640 Speaker 1: don't want to I don't want to wrap it up early, 3134 02:34:32,920 --> 02:34:35,320 Speaker 1: but I would like to start maybe just talking generally 3135 02:34:35,560 --> 02:34:38,400 Speaker 1: about training camp and you know what we've seen over 3136 02:34:38,480 --> 02:34:43,480 Speaker 1: the last few weeks. Um, we've learned some things, certainly, 3137 02:34:43,520 --> 02:34:46,680 Speaker 1: I think there's some other questions we have, Uh start 3138 02:34:46,720 --> 02:34:49,080 Speaker 1: with you having what you know, what are your headline 3139 02:34:49,120 --> 02:34:51,760 Speaker 1: takeaways from from what you saw here in training camp 3140 02:34:51,800 --> 02:34:53,960 Speaker 1: at at Lett Stadium. I think the biggest thing for 3141 02:34:54,080 --> 02:35:00,280 Speaker 1: me is Mac and just the general you know, hear 3142 02:35:00,280 --> 02:35:02,480 Speaker 1: all of the off season stuff about he's in the 3143 02:35:02,560 --> 02:35:04,600 Speaker 1: weight room, he's with Tom House, he's making all these 3144 02:35:04,640 --> 02:35:07,240 Speaker 1: strides and I'm not saying he necessarily hasn't done that, 3145 02:35:07,320 --> 02:35:09,120 Speaker 1: and maybe it is just the things around him that 3146 02:35:09,200 --> 02:35:12,000 Speaker 1: are going on, but just evaluating the passing offense as 3147 02:35:12,080 --> 02:35:15,720 Speaker 1: a whole. It's been better in spurts and these two 3148 02:35:15,800 --> 02:35:18,000 Speaker 1: joint practices with Carolina, but there's still a lot of 3149 02:35:18,040 --> 02:35:20,840 Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback. And I wouldn't say that there's 3150 02:35:21,200 --> 02:35:24,680 Speaker 1: a ton of instances yet where there's wide open receivers 3151 02:35:24,800 --> 02:35:26,960 Speaker 1: or schemed open guys. And maybe we'll get into that 3152 02:35:27,040 --> 02:35:29,480 Speaker 1: once the game planning and some of the more creative 3153 02:35:29,520 --> 02:35:32,760 Speaker 1: stuff gets going. But I would have just I was 3154 02:35:32,840 --> 02:35:34,840 Speaker 1: hoping to come into this camp and see Mac really 3155 02:35:35,160 --> 02:35:38,200 Speaker 1: take it by storm, you know, and really kind of 3156 02:35:38,320 --> 02:35:42,039 Speaker 1: turn that corner into like a top ten fringe, top 3157 02:35:42,120 --> 02:35:44,760 Speaker 1: ten type quarterback. And I don't know if I've necessarily 3158 02:35:45,000 --> 02:35:46,720 Speaker 1: seen that, but it has been better the last couple 3159 02:35:46,720 --> 02:35:49,760 Speaker 1: of days. And I think defensively, they at least look 3160 02:35:49,840 --> 02:35:53,280 Speaker 1: like they have the ability to hang on defense. And 3161 02:35:53,320 --> 02:35:55,240 Speaker 1: I know we'll see, like you keep saying, Mike, like 3162 02:35:55,280 --> 02:35:57,440 Speaker 1: we'll see when they get to get against Buffalo and 3163 02:35:57,800 --> 02:36:00,400 Speaker 1: maybe even Miami in Week one if that's true. But 3164 02:36:01,000 --> 02:36:03,840 Speaker 1: I think they have enough on defense that that would 3165 02:36:03,840 --> 02:36:07,119 Speaker 1: Belichick's you know, ability to game plan and scheming things 3166 02:36:07,200 --> 02:36:09,320 Speaker 1: like that, that they'll be able to piece together a 3167 02:36:09,720 --> 02:36:12,560 Speaker 1: pretty good defense and if we always seem to look 3168 02:36:12,640 --> 02:36:14,120 Speaker 1: up at the end of the day and they're like 3169 02:36:14,160 --> 02:36:16,160 Speaker 1: a top ten scoring defense, re harless of the guys 3170 02:36:16,200 --> 02:36:18,039 Speaker 1: are riding out there, and it feels like another year 3171 02:36:18,120 --> 02:36:21,000 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, the numbers will tell you something that 3172 02:36:21,040 --> 02:36:23,879 Speaker 1: they were top top ten in both last year. Yeah, 3173 02:36:23,959 --> 02:36:25,440 Speaker 1: and I don't think they were very good in either. 3174 02:36:26,320 --> 02:36:30,320 Speaker 1: Well is a bad uh Yeah? Jack Jones jumping another 3175 02:36:30,400 --> 02:36:33,280 Speaker 1: route there, Yeah, that's that's that's been a common occurrence 3176 02:36:33,320 --> 02:36:36,560 Speaker 1: in uh nineteen. Got got by him. But you know, 3177 02:36:36,640 --> 02:36:39,199 Speaker 1: Baker mayfields the quarterback, so it takes some change away 3178 02:36:39,240 --> 02:36:42,119 Speaker 1: matter back Jones. Yeah, I think he's he's gonna learn 3179 02:36:42,320 --> 02:36:44,080 Speaker 1: at some point and he's gonna get burned by at 3180 02:36:44,120 --> 02:36:46,280 Speaker 1: one time and that might be might be the end 3181 02:36:46,320 --> 02:36:54,160 Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, might take please you know, I'm tyke. Yeah, 3182 02:36:54,440 --> 02:36:59,080 Speaker 1: I think has a sensitive takeaway. Yeah, he's exceeded my expectations. 3183 02:36:59,120 --> 02:37:01,320 Speaker 1: I thought he would be sort of a red shirt 3184 02:37:01,440 --> 02:37:03,480 Speaker 1: kind of a season. I think there's a chance that 3185 02:37:03,560 --> 02:37:07,080 Speaker 1: he's more than that. I think I worry about his size. 3186 02:37:07,120 --> 02:37:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm not ignoring the limitations, the physical limitations. 3187 02:37:13,320 --> 02:37:15,080 Speaker 1: He's a speed guy. I've heard a lot of people 3188 02:37:15,120 --> 02:37:17,200 Speaker 1: say he's much more than that. He's a speed guy. 3189 02:37:17,600 --> 02:37:20,720 Speaker 1: That's what he is. But he creates space with the speed, 3190 02:37:20,800 --> 02:37:23,280 Speaker 1: and he creates space I think at times for others 3191 02:37:23,400 --> 02:37:26,560 Speaker 1: with his speed. So I've really been encouraged by him, 3192 02:37:26,959 --> 02:37:29,440 Speaker 1: and I think he's got a chance to be a 3193 02:37:29,560 --> 02:37:32,320 Speaker 1: real contributor on offense, and I think they need that 3194 02:37:32,520 --> 02:37:35,480 Speaker 1: kind of a playmaker if the offense is going to 3195 02:37:35,560 --> 02:37:39,240 Speaker 1: take any kind of significant steps forward. I do. I don't. Look, 3196 02:37:39,280 --> 02:37:41,400 Speaker 1: he's not Julian Edelman, He's not Wes Welker. He's not 3197 02:37:41,400 --> 02:37:43,040 Speaker 1: going to break down the route or anything like that. 3198 02:37:43,480 --> 02:37:45,800 Speaker 1: But he has enough at the top of the route 3199 02:37:45,840 --> 02:37:48,640 Speaker 1: with his movements that when he does come off the 3200 02:37:48,720 --> 02:37:51,520 Speaker 1: line vertically and pushes the coverage up field, that he 3201 02:37:51,640 --> 02:37:54,160 Speaker 1: can break inside the defense on a dig router or 3202 02:37:54,280 --> 02:37:57,200 Speaker 1: like a skinny post or something like that. And that's 3203 02:37:57,240 --> 02:37:59,280 Speaker 1: all you need when you're that fast, right, he just 3204 02:37:59,440 --> 02:38:01,640 Speaker 1: needs some thing that you can run underneath the defense 3205 02:38:01,720 --> 02:38:04,720 Speaker 1: consistently to have them respect that, and then you can 3206 02:38:04,800 --> 02:38:07,640 Speaker 1: take the top off once they crowd the line a 3207 02:38:07,680 --> 02:38:10,440 Speaker 1: little bit more on you. I don't think that he's 3208 02:38:10,640 --> 02:38:13,960 Speaker 1: like this like refined route runner, but his ability to 3209 02:38:14,040 --> 02:38:15,360 Speaker 1: get in and out of the break has been a 3210 02:38:15,400 --> 02:38:18,200 Speaker 1: lot better than I expected it would be based off 3211 02:38:18,240 --> 02:38:20,720 Speaker 1: of what we saw Baylor. Yeah, for me, I just 3212 02:38:20,760 --> 02:38:22,800 Speaker 1: want to highlight a couple of guys on defense because 3213 02:38:23,000 --> 02:38:26,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I have been impressed with the defensive performance overall, 3214 02:38:26,600 --> 02:38:28,600 Speaker 1: just the energy that they've been bringing and you know, 3215 02:38:28,720 --> 02:38:30,400 Speaker 1: some of the big plays that they that they've made. 3216 02:38:30,800 --> 02:38:32,520 Speaker 1: I think i'd overshadow a little bit early in camp 3217 02:38:32,600 --> 02:38:34,440 Speaker 1: with the offense making a couple of last plays even 3218 02:38:34,480 --> 02:38:37,600 Speaker 1: though the defense dominated. But you know, Anthony Jennings is 3219 02:38:37,879 --> 02:38:39,720 Speaker 1: just somebody that I think was really under the radar 3220 02:38:39,800 --> 02:38:41,960 Speaker 1: and you know, has suddenly been you know, talk so 3221 02:38:42,120 --> 02:38:46,279 Speaker 1: much about somebody's got will emerge from Perkins oocha Jennings 3222 02:38:47,120 --> 02:38:48,480 Speaker 1: And I think and I think, you know, so far 3223 02:38:48,600 --> 02:38:51,080 Speaker 1: Jennings has shown that that he could potentially be an 3224 02:38:51,120 --> 02:38:54,880 Speaker 1: impact player on multiple downs. We'll see, We'll see how 3225 02:38:54,879 --> 02:38:57,240 Speaker 1: it looks in real football. I mean, he did get 3226 02:38:57,280 --> 02:38:59,040 Speaker 1: his feet wet in twenty twenty. I think he was 3227 02:38:59,040 --> 02:39:00,800 Speaker 1: a little bit out of position. But and I also 3228 02:39:00,840 --> 02:39:03,320 Speaker 1: throw you know Peppers. I mentioned him yesterday. He's only 3229 02:39:03,360 --> 02:39:06,160 Speaker 1: been out here a few days, but he just looks involved. 3230 02:39:06,240 --> 02:39:08,400 Speaker 1: He looks engaged. He's I mean watching him right now, 3231 02:39:08,480 --> 02:39:11,680 Speaker 1: direct guys, Um, I'm just really interested to see what 3232 02:39:11,800 --> 02:39:14,640 Speaker 1: he brings to the defense, how they incorporate him along 3233 02:39:14,680 --> 02:39:16,560 Speaker 1: with you know, as Evan and pointed out Mac Wilson, right, 3234 02:39:16,640 --> 02:39:19,040 Speaker 1: Quam Mill and those kind of new faces that you know, 3235 02:39:19,160 --> 02:39:21,600 Speaker 1: are they going to change the defense? Are they gonna uh, 3236 02:39:21,680 --> 02:39:24,039 Speaker 1: you know, get that taste of the Buffalo game out 3237 02:39:24,080 --> 02:39:25,760 Speaker 1: of our mouth, and you know, maybe go down there 3238 02:39:25,800 --> 02:39:28,080 Speaker 1: to Miami and in Pittsburgh and you know, turning some 3239 02:39:28,160 --> 02:39:30,200 Speaker 1: performances that make you say, all right, that was you 3240 02:39:30,280 --> 02:39:32,480 Speaker 1: know how they finished last year. Isn't the same defense. 3241 02:39:32,560 --> 02:39:34,240 Speaker 1: This is a different defense. We've got some new energy, 3242 02:39:34,320 --> 02:39:36,480 Speaker 1: some new pieces in here, um that might be able 3243 02:39:36,520 --> 02:39:39,600 Speaker 1: to change the dynamic a little bit. So Panthers are 3244 02:39:39,800 --> 02:39:42,120 Speaker 1: wrapping up there their offensive snaps and it looks like 3245 02:39:42,520 --> 02:39:45,600 Speaker 1: Bailey Zappi is coming on for for the Patriots, and 3246 02:39:45,840 --> 02:39:49,440 Speaker 1: this might be the final set of reps for this practice. 3247 02:39:50,920 --> 02:39:53,600 Speaker 1: And when we're done, we'll go home. And then well 3248 02:39:54,320 --> 02:39:58,160 Speaker 1: that's well, I never told you that you need. When 3249 02:39:58,200 --> 02:40:01,320 Speaker 1: you're done, you go home. All this buston Harold saying 3250 02:40:02,320 --> 02:40:05,000 Speaker 1: when I was training for the Herald doing like agate stuff. 3251 02:40:05,560 --> 02:40:07,040 Speaker 1: So the guy who's training me is telling me what 3252 02:40:07,160 --> 02:40:09,600 Speaker 1: you send down like the American League batting leaders, you know, 3253 02:40:10,280 --> 02:40:11,960 Speaker 1: a l n L leaders. You know, you get that, 3254 02:40:12,080 --> 02:40:13,640 Speaker 1: you know, fill it, you know, and then when you 3255 02:40:13,680 --> 02:40:15,360 Speaker 1: get the last blot score and when you're done, you 3256 02:40:15,440 --> 02:40:19,039 Speaker 1: go home. I was like, okay, it's really a philosophy 3257 02:40:19,160 --> 02:40:20,920 Speaker 1: we live by here. Just you know, when you're done, 3258 02:40:20,959 --> 02:40:23,800 Speaker 1: you go home. Little Jordan nice nice catch there connection 3259 02:40:23,879 --> 02:40:29,320 Speaker 1: from Zappie that's a vertical clear out corner route fills 3260 02:40:29,360 --> 02:40:33,320 Speaker 1: in mentioned Anthony Jennings though, Mike, I think what stood 3261 02:40:33,360 --> 02:40:35,240 Speaker 1: out about him the most is that it's in team. 3262 02:40:35,560 --> 02:40:38,120 Speaker 1: It's not like I think a lot of times like 3263 02:40:38,200 --> 02:40:39,920 Speaker 1: we get caught up in like the one on one 3264 02:40:40,040 --> 02:40:42,680 Speaker 1: stuff and like not to like pick on josh uj 3265 02:40:42,840 --> 02:40:45,200 Speaker 1: but he sometimes looks great in one on ones where 3266 02:40:45,280 --> 02:40:48,200 Speaker 1: he just blows by guys at you know, off the 3267 02:40:48,320 --> 02:40:50,360 Speaker 1: edge they're rushing on the tackles and things like that. 3268 02:40:50,480 --> 02:40:53,200 Speaker 1: But Jennings has held his own in eleven on elevens, 3269 02:40:53,280 --> 02:40:56,720 Speaker 1: which like definitely perks my ears up a little bit more. 3270 02:40:57,400 --> 02:41:00,400 Speaker 1: That's like, okay, that's legitimate football. Now that he's out 3271 02:41:00,440 --> 02:41:03,480 Speaker 1: there and playing well, and so we'll see. I mean, yeah, 3272 02:41:04,040 --> 02:41:07,440 Speaker 1: I think that that's the one player that if he 3273 02:41:07,600 --> 02:41:10,320 Speaker 1: has kind of just even if he's just reliable on 3274 02:41:10,560 --> 02:41:13,520 Speaker 1: the edge and allows them to have one other reliable 3275 02:41:13,640 --> 02:41:15,520 Speaker 1: edge center, that that will go a long way. Yeah, 3276 02:41:15,560 --> 02:41:18,240 Speaker 1: that's I mean, does he get I got an interception there, 3277 02:41:18,360 --> 02:41:20,640 Speaker 1: looks like maybe off the hands of I'll see, I'll see. 3278 02:41:20,800 --> 02:41:22,720 Speaker 1: Now perhaps I think I'm just not on the On 3279 02:41:22,800 --> 02:41:25,880 Speaker 1: the same game, he turned and looked to throw with 3280 02:41:26,000 --> 02:41:28,840 Speaker 1: the outside and he was on the inside, threw it 3281 02:41:28,959 --> 02:41:31,720 Speaker 1: right to nineties. I think it was ninety six. Yeah, 3282 02:41:31,760 --> 02:41:33,640 Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be curious having right out of the gate, 3283 02:41:33,959 --> 02:41:35,840 Speaker 1: you know what that kind of sub package looks like. 3284 02:41:35,920 --> 02:41:37,800 Speaker 1: And I think we'll got obviously jude On and Barmore 3285 02:41:37,959 --> 02:41:40,080 Speaker 1: are there, but I don't I don't know if I 3286 02:41:40,160 --> 02:41:44,520 Speaker 1: even really expected Jennings to push that. I've been a 3287 02:41:44,560 --> 02:41:46,360 Speaker 1: little surprised by Jennings too. And I think that you 3288 02:41:46,440 --> 02:41:49,920 Speaker 1: guys are right about him being a positive UM impact 3289 02:41:50,480 --> 02:41:54,400 Speaker 1: so far UM quick observation for you guys. Maybe you 3290 02:41:54,440 --> 02:41:56,720 Speaker 1: guys don't find it as interesting as I do. Remindre 3291 02:41:56,800 --> 02:41:59,600 Speaker 1: Stevenson out there right now, as the back end is 3292 02:41:59,680 --> 02:42:03,680 Speaker 1: two minute to me is somewhat significant, you know, mostly 3293 02:42:04,080 --> 02:42:09,680 Speaker 1: kind of backups and secondary players involved here. I think 3294 02:42:09,720 --> 02:42:12,840 Speaker 1: they're really trying to expand Stevenson's role, yeah, and getting 3295 02:42:12,920 --> 02:42:16,080 Speaker 1: him more and more incorporated into the passing game. Yeah. 3296 02:42:16,120 --> 02:42:19,200 Speaker 1: I mean we talked about it a bunch on the 3297 02:42:19,240 --> 02:42:21,960 Speaker 1: show over the last couple of weeks, the predictability that 3298 02:42:22,120 --> 02:42:24,200 Speaker 1: they have with certain backs in the lineup. I think 3299 02:42:24,240 --> 02:42:27,240 Speaker 1: the stats last year said that they were run almost 3300 02:42:27,400 --> 02:42:30,040 Speaker 1: sixty five percent of the time with Damian Harris on 3301 02:42:30,160 --> 02:42:32,960 Speaker 1: the field. And then when they're not run, it's play action, right, 3302 02:42:33,040 --> 02:42:36,199 Speaker 1: So it's one sort of type of offense. It's under center, 3303 02:42:36,520 --> 02:42:38,680 Speaker 1: it's run, and then it's a hard play action off 3304 02:42:38,720 --> 02:42:42,080 Speaker 1: of the running game. To have somebody out there that 3305 02:42:42,200 --> 02:42:45,640 Speaker 1: can do everything, it just makes you a lot less predictable. 3306 02:42:45,680 --> 02:42:47,879 Speaker 1: And I think Remandre is a guy that could potentially 3307 02:42:48,440 --> 02:42:50,840 Speaker 1: do that and could be a three down player, could 3308 02:42:50,879 --> 02:42:54,119 Speaker 1: be an all purpose player versus just being typecast into 3309 02:42:54,200 --> 02:42:55,840 Speaker 1: that lead back role. And I think everything you just 3310 02:42:55,959 --> 02:42:58,000 Speaker 1: laid out two feeds in a little bit of Fred's 3311 02:42:58,040 --> 02:42:59,840 Speaker 1: big point that he always likes to bring up of that, 3312 02:43:00,040 --> 02:43:01,960 Speaker 1: you know, the Patriots offense being easy to defend. And 3313 02:43:02,000 --> 02:43:03,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I just you don't really have to look 3314 02:43:03,640 --> 02:43:06,000 Speaker 1: farther than that, as at least one little part of 3315 02:43:06,080 --> 02:43:08,720 Speaker 1: it that it was pretty clear when certain personnel was 3316 02:43:08,800 --> 02:43:10,440 Speaker 1: on the field what they were going to do. And 3317 02:43:10,480 --> 02:43:12,920 Speaker 1: I'd include the fullback in that kind of conversation as well. 3318 02:43:13,959 --> 02:43:15,480 Speaker 1: You know, maybe they're able to be a little bit 3319 02:43:15,520 --> 02:43:18,959 Speaker 1: more versatile between you know, going between two tight ends 3320 02:43:19,000 --> 02:43:21,959 Speaker 1: and three receivers. I just think Stevenson's a more explosive player, 3321 02:43:22,080 --> 02:43:23,800 Speaker 1: and I think the more opportunities you can get the 3322 02:43:23,879 --> 02:43:26,400 Speaker 1: ball on his hand, you should be interested in that. 3323 02:43:26,560 --> 02:43:28,520 Speaker 1: Plus he's tough in space. I mean, those little swing 3324 02:43:28,560 --> 02:43:30,800 Speaker 1: passes to him, you know, and just make the linebacker 3325 02:43:30,920 --> 02:43:32,560 Speaker 1: get it in space and and and try to wrap 3326 02:43:32,600 --> 02:43:34,600 Speaker 1: and tackle him. I mean, it's it's no easy task, 3327 02:43:35,120 --> 02:43:40,120 Speaker 1: certainly different than than the challenge that McCaffrey presents. But yeah, 3328 02:43:40,520 --> 02:43:44,160 Speaker 1: Basin was going to stay on the sideline there. Yeah, 3329 02:43:44,200 --> 02:43:48,960 Speaker 1: a little miscommunication there, Bailey trying to hit else. We 3330 02:43:49,040 --> 02:43:51,160 Speaker 1: got little Jordan out there. Man, Little Jordan's getting a 3331 02:43:51,160 --> 02:43:52,560 Speaker 1: lot of around. I think I think Little Jordan ends 3332 02:43:52,640 --> 02:43:54,640 Speaker 1: up on the practice squad. It's gonna be one of 3333 02:43:54,640 --> 02:43:57,760 Speaker 1: those veteran practice squad guys. I'm telling you, like what, 3334 02:43:58,640 --> 02:44:00,840 Speaker 1: he's had a better camp, and he played better in 3335 02:44:00,879 --> 02:44:04,520 Speaker 1: the preseason game and then Socco and Assisi wasn't even 3336 02:44:04,600 --> 02:44:07,000 Speaker 1: Indian preseason games. And I agree with you, and I 3337 02:44:07,040 --> 02:44:09,720 Speaker 1: think today Assisi has been involved in some plays that 3338 02:44:09,879 --> 02:44:12,560 Speaker 1: haven't looked great. Yeah, I mean the interception was I 3339 02:44:12,560 --> 02:44:14,000 Speaker 1: don't know whose fault it was, but it was a 3340 02:44:14,040 --> 02:44:17,080 Speaker 1: clear miscommunication and he's involved right in the middle of it. 3341 02:44:17,360 --> 02:44:20,119 Speaker 1: He's wide open, going deep though they want to push 3342 02:44:20,120 --> 02:44:22,039 Speaker 1: it a little Jordan and they miss in the end 3343 02:44:22,120 --> 02:44:24,640 Speaker 1: zone coverage these seam runs by a little Jordan and 3344 02:44:24,879 --> 02:44:27,280 Speaker 1: being kind of like a detached why. I mean, it's 3345 02:44:27,800 --> 02:44:29,760 Speaker 1: if that's the way that they have to go, I 3346 02:44:30,040 --> 02:44:33,359 Speaker 1: almost think it could be more productive than putting Asiassi 3347 02:44:33,440 --> 02:44:36,120 Speaker 1: out there if Henry gets hurt or if John is right. 3348 02:44:36,200 --> 02:44:38,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he gives you a little bit more. I mean, 3349 02:44:38,160 --> 02:44:41,080 Speaker 1: he might not be the blocker of a traditional tight end, 3350 02:44:41,120 --> 02:44:42,880 Speaker 1: but yeah, at least he gives you a little bit 3351 02:44:42,879 --> 02:44:44,959 Speaker 1: of length. And then at that point you're just spread right, 3352 02:44:45,040 --> 02:44:47,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you're just not an under center. Team probably 3353 02:44:47,840 --> 02:44:49,920 Speaker 1: really trying to back them into that, aren't you? Trying 3354 02:44:49,920 --> 02:44:51,600 Speaker 1: to like shoehorn him. Well, I mean, we'll look what 3355 02:44:51,680 --> 02:44:57,480 Speaker 1: happened off it's oh my gosh, look at us. That's 3356 02:44:57,480 --> 02:44:59,800 Speaker 1: all I want. I just want them to look like Alabama. 3357 02:45:00,080 --> 02:45:03,240 Speaker 1: Is that too much to ask for? Oh? Personnel wise, 3358 02:45:06,640 --> 02:45:10,400 Speaker 1: it's my boys. And Stevenson caught one on his shoe 3359 02:45:10,400 --> 02:45:14,480 Speaker 1: strings and uh Zappie's got him again. It was. You know, 3360 02:45:14,600 --> 02:45:16,120 Speaker 1: it's been a little up and down here with with 3361 02:45:16,240 --> 02:45:18,480 Speaker 1: this couple, couple of nice throws, a couple of miscommunications 3362 02:45:18,600 --> 02:45:20,960 Speaker 1: obviously the interception as well. So I think this will 3363 02:45:20,959 --> 02:45:23,840 Speaker 1: be the last play. I'm not positive on that, but 3364 02:45:24,640 --> 02:45:26,520 Speaker 1: Carolina sure looks like they want it to be. They're 3365 02:45:26,520 --> 02:45:28,959 Speaker 1: all kind of creeping slow up at the sideline, long 3366 02:45:29,520 --> 02:45:34,320 Speaker 1: here to be. To be fair to the Panthers, they 3367 02:45:34,920 --> 02:45:37,000 Speaker 1: more than today. I think they might have been a 3368 02:45:37,040 --> 02:45:39,240 Speaker 1: little bit better. It was. It was pretty even. I 3369 02:45:39,280 --> 02:45:42,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't say it was like I mean, Carolina was better 3370 02:45:42,360 --> 02:45:45,400 Speaker 1: than yes, oh yeah, not even close. Yeah, not not 3371 02:45:45,520 --> 02:45:47,040 Speaker 1: that they were better than the Patriots. I think it 3372 02:45:47,120 --> 02:45:49,160 Speaker 1: was much more even today. Yeah, I would agree with you, 3373 02:45:50,080 --> 02:45:51,680 Speaker 1: which is what you want. You want both teams to 3374 02:45:51,760 --> 02:45:54,240 Speaker 1: make some plays, and you know, fell back and forth 3375 02:45:54,280 --> 02:45:56,360 Speaker 1: a little bit. I want to describe the play that 3376 02:45:56,440 --> 02:45:58,760 Speaker 1: just happened. I think they call that a what is 3377 02:45:58,760 --> 02:46:01,800 Speaker 1: that a fade? Rene try to toss one up the 3378 02:46:01,800 --> 02:46:04,000 Speaker 1: airback shoulder to three Nixon. I don't know. I don't 3379 02:46:04,040 --> 02:46:05,280 Speaker 1: know about that one. I mean, I'm all for it 3380 02:46:05,360 --> 02:46:08,120 Speaker 1: with Parker and Thornton. Yeah, I was a little bit 3381 02:46:08,160 --> 02:46:09,960 Speaker 1: even with Agilo. I mean, Agilo was not sure. But 3382 02:46:10,720 --> 02:46:12,560 Speaker 1: I think we're getting a little little nuts. Now we're 3383 02:46:12,600 --> 02:46:14,720 Speaker 1: getting down like Tree Nixon trying to try to hit 3384 02:46:14,800 --> 02:46:16,120 Speaker 1: him in the back. They're going to give him one 3385 02:46:16,160 --> 02:46:19,120 Speaker 1: more here. Maybe they didn't count the spike. These are 3386 02:46:19,200 --> 02:46:21,680 Speaker 1: the the guys that are out there now, though, are 3387 02:46:21,720 --> 02:46:25,320 Speaker 1: some of these guys that you know, Trey Nixon and Yeah, 3388 02:46:25,360 --> 02:46:28,200 Speaker 1: these are players that popped early in camp that maybe 3389 02:46:28,280 --> 02:46:31,440 Speaker 1: had some moments that little plateau out. Yeah, but now 3390 02:46:31,480 --> 02:46:34,360 Speaker 1: this is the part of camp where it gets gets 3391 02:46:34,440 --> 02:46:37,440 Speaker 1: dicey for those types of guys. Oh, he was open 3392 02:46:37,560 --> 02:46:41,039 Speaker 1: that time. Stevenson was wide open too. I couldn't tell 3393 02:46:41,040 --> 02:46:51,640 Speaker 1: where he was throwing that, but knocked down, Yeah, I 3394 02:46:51,720 --> 02:46:55,400 Speaker 1: think that's gonna do. It looks like everybody's stopping no wander. Yeah, 3395 02:46:56,120 --> 02:46:58,360 Speaker 1: it's been a long two days. It has. It's been 3396 02:46:58,360 --> 02:47:00,200 Speaker 1: a long few weeks, but it's been fun. We've got 3397 02:47:00,280 --> 02:47:02,520 Speaker 1: to watch a lot of football, so I guess we'll 3398 02:47:02,520 --> 02:47:06,920 Speaker 1: start to wrap up our training campcast here from Gillette Stadium, 3399 02:47:06,920 --> 02:47:09,360 Speaker 1: brought to you by optim. It's a great time. Thank 3400 02:47:09,400 --> 02:47:12,720 Speaker 1: you for everyone who emailed in and called in. We 3401 02:47:12,840 --> 02:47:15,480 Speaker 1: will be out at joint practices next week in Vegas, 3402 02:47:15,520 --> 02:47:18,480 Speaker 1: so we'll have some more audio content for you during those. 3403 02:47:18,760 --> 02:47:21,480 Speaker 1: After those practice is probably not live, but until then 3404 02:47:21,600 --> 02:47:24,280 Speaker 1: turn in tune in tomorrow Thursday for Patriots on Filter 3405 02:47:24,480 --> 02:47:27,199 Speaker 1: usual time twelve to two. We'll be there to recap 3406 02:47:27,280 --> 02:47:29,760 Speaker 1: everything that happened in camp and of course Patriots game 3407 02:47:29,879 --> 02:47:32,680 Speaker 1: Friday night against these Panthers. We'll see how it goes. 3408 02:47:32,720 --> 02:47:35,240 Speaker 1: So for Evan Lazar Paul Parrello, this is Mike Duso 3409 02:47:35,440 --> 02:47:38,480 Speaker 1: signing off for the last time from this training camp practice. 3410 02:47:39,320 --> 02:47:43,120 Speaker 1: Thank you for downloading this podcast. Subscribe on Apple, google Play, 3411 02:47:43,200 --> 02:47:46,240 Speaker 1: and everywhere else you listen. Like the show, Please rate 3412 02:47:46,320 --> 02:47:49,440 Speaker 1: and review us. 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