WEBVTT - Pennington: 'This Is a Playoff Game' (11/24)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to us Thanksgiving installment the Jets Audibles, Eric Allen,

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<v Speaker 1>joined by my partner Chad Punnyton, who actually is in

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting location today. You're a trooper, Chad. Uh. The

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<v Speaker 1>guys are telling me you are doing this podcast from

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<v Speaker 1>an automobile a car. Well, Eric, I'm always believe you

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever it takes to win, right, So I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that when I played, and I still believe it now.

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<v Speaker 1>So the kids are home from Thanksgiving break a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit crazy in the house. I stepped into my car

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<v Speaker 1>because I knew we wouldn't have any distractions, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So what's the Punnington family doing for Thanksgiving? Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>are actually trying to enjoy a couple of days and

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<v Speaker 1>not having any sports activities, no school activities, and just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to recuperate from the fall of football in the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of basketball. And then we will head to West

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia on Wednesday to enjoy the family for thanks Will

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<v Speaker 1>the boys go out and play and have a Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 1>a game on the gridiron? You know what, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>a bad idea at all. I may even incorporate that

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<v Speaker 1>into our family schedule. That's that's a pretty good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Thundering Herd plays Western Kentucky on Friday for the East

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<v Speaker 1>Division of the Conference USA Championship. So we will certainly

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<v Speaker 1>be watching a lot of football, and I'm sure they

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<v Speaker 1>would also be up for a football game. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>doubt about it. They love it. Did you guys ever

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<v Speaker 1>do that going growing up? Play a little football on Thanksgiving? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was noting. I was known in my

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<v Speaker 1>family for playing football games by myself. We would actually

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<v Speaker 1>go up and visit my grandparents in Lofallit, Tennessee, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would go out in my sweat pants and have

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<v Speaker 1>a football game by myself. Now imagine that like you

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<v Speaker 1>tackle yourself, you make great catches, you uh if you

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<v Speaker 1>pick up fumble as you make interceptions, and the most

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<v Speaker 1>important thing, you always win. So it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>a win win situation from well, yeah, so I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you were the star of the game. Listen, Uh, did

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<v Speaker 1>you do play by play while you're out there playing

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<v Speaker 1>uh football against yourself? No doubt about it. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>to give a little commentating and play by play, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with penning to making a great catch or painting and

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<v Speaker 1>scooping up the fumble or intercepting the ball, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>jumping over the pile, touchdown, all those things that really

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<v Speaker 1>bring back great Chilithood's memory. Alright, Chad, what's your message

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<v Speaker 1>for Jets Nation? The Green and White suffer another a

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<v Speaker 1>tough DEFEATO one possession game there at that, but unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't climb back into a tie with the Texans,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they're five and five. Well, if you, I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's two perspectives here for Jet fans, and most importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>there's two perspectives here for the team. Um. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>the inner perspect to is, hey, the team is struggling

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<v Speaker 1>and and the team is trying to find a way

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<v Speaker 1>to just get back into the wind Colin. And so

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<v Speaker 1>the narrow perspective is to think the world's coming to

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<v Speaker 1>an end. They're five and five, they've lost four out

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<v Speaker 1>of five, they're certainly on a downward trend. And as

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<v Speaker 1>a team, I don't think you can buy into all

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<v Speaker 1>of that. I think you've got to broaden your perspective

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<v Speaker 1>and look at it big picture and look at the league,

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<v Speaker 1>look at where you are, and say, if we said

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<v Speaker 1>we would be at five and five at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of season, would we feel good that we can make

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<v Speaker 1>a playoff run. I think that uh answer to that

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<v Speaker 1>question is yes, we would feel good that we could

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<v Speaker 1>make a playoff run. Right now, you don't feel good

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<v Speaker 1>about a playoff run because of where you are in

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<v Speaker 1>healthy started. So from a team's perspective, you always need

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<v Speaker 1>to take the positive approach. You can't pessimism leap to

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<v Speaker 1>complete breakdown and failure. So you have to be optimistic.

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<v Speaker 1>Can go Okay, yeah, we've screwed this thing up completely

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<v Speaker 1>starting out four and one, we're five and five, but

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<v Speaker 1>we are in the playoffs hunt, and so what can

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<v Speaker 1>we do as a team to flush these ten games,

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<v Speaker 1>focus on these nick six and make a playoff runt.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't there a difference? And I keep on coming back

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<v Speaker 1>to this because I was with Herds for five years,

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<v Speaker 1>But isn't there a difference between perception and reality? Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people do. Remember forget the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that the Jets finished four and twelve last season,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were some talk in New York this week

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<v Speaker 1>that hey, the Jets are frauds. But ched this team

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't saying before they matched up with the New England

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots that they were Super Bowl contenders. In fact to

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Bowls has been the same way each and every week,

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<v Speaker 1>no question. I completely agree with that. And that's the

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<v Speaker 1>big picture of perspective you're talk talking about is saying

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<v Speaker 1>it's a team that was four and twelve, had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of turnover, coaching, change um, and then the early

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<v Speaker 1>um success of the team maybe have given it may

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<v Speaker 1>have given a false perception out there that this team

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<v Speaker 1>was ready. Now, as as teammates and as individuals, you

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<v Speaker 1>always believe you've got a chance to play for a championship,

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<v Speaker 1>There's no question about that. And they certainly as an

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<v Speaker 1>organization made moves to take that next stride to start

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<v Speaker 1>to play for championships and had some early success to

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<v Speaker 1>leave you to believe that they could do that. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's still possible. Uh that that is certainly not out

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<v Speaker 1>of the realm of possibilities as far as being able

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<v Speaker 1>to make a playoff run and get into the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>But right now, the feeling obviously around the town and

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<v Speaker 1>as Jet fans, you don't feel good about where you

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<v Speaker 1>are because you have seen regression and not progression, so

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<v Speaker 1>that that feeling out there is understandable. But as a team,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't worry about that. You've got to focus on it.

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<v Speaker 1>We are what we are. We're five and five. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a reason we're five and five. Now, if we understand

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<v Speaker 1>what those reasons are, and we understand that those things

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<v Speaker 1>can be fixed, that we can change this scenario quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Fitzpatrick told me last night on Inside the Jots,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to ignore the noise. How difficult is that

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<v Speaker 1>for you, the player in a place like New York,

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<v Speaker 1>to say, Hey, whatever is going on in the outside,

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<v Speaker 1>forget about it. We gotta lock it up inside the

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<v Speaker 1>locker room and find something we can hang our hat

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<v Speaker 1>on right now. Well, it's it's it's very important. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the most important thing when you play in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why some players can survive and some players

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<v Speaker 1>can't um But there there is. It's important to understand

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<v Speaker 1>why ignore the noise means. In my opinion, ignore the

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<v Speaker 1>noise means you you ignore the things that really aren't

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<v Speaker 1>replevant to your situation. But you cannot nor the things

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<v Speaker 1>that are relevant to your situation and ignore. You cannot

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<v Speaker 1>ignore the mistakes being made. You cannot ignore the same

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<v Speaker 1>mistake being repeated. You cannot ignore the lack of production,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to look at those things, truly strip

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<v Speaker 1>yourself down as an individual and as a team, analyze

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<v Speaker 1>those and make a conscious effort to correct those things.

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<v Speaker 1>So ignore the noise as far as the negativity out there, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>but do not ignore the noise when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>what are the real reasons we are struggling as a

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<v Speaker 1>team and how do we fix those things? And what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think are the real reasons that the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>have hit a rough patch here uh in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the year. Well, offensively, I think the lack of

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<v Speaker 1>big plays, chunk plays. I think that's what has reared

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<v Speaker 1>its ugly head over the last few weeks is that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't had very many plays made down the field

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<v Speaker 1>to make drives a little easier. Um to where you

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<v Speaker 1>can't survive in this league by having fourteen play fIF

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<v Speaker 1>team play drives every series. Defenses are too good, schemes

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<v Speaker 1>and coordinators are too good to allow you to do

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<v Speaker 1>that on a consistent basis. You have to have some

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<v Speaker 1>chunk plays that turn a possible four team play series

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<v Speaker 1>into a seven play series because you had a forty

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<v Speaker 1>or fifty yard game and those plays have not been

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<v Speaker 1>made and and I think that some of the younger

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<v Speaker 1>players on offense and some of the players that don't

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<v Speaker 1>get their number called as often as the UH typical

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<v Speaker 1>players do, such as the Brandon Marshall's, the Chris Ivory's,

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Jackers, those are the guys that need to step

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<v Speaker 1>up and make a chunk play and make a make

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<v Speaker 1>a big time catch, a big time run, whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>may be, to alleviate some of the stress that's put

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<v Speaker 1>on an offense by trying to have it to produce

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<v Speaker 1>those fourteen or fifteen a series. Well, if Fitzpatrick admittedly

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<v Speaker 1>as he hasn't played really well in the past few weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>from your perspective, what have you seen on film from

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets fatchan signal caller? Well, I think number one,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to really look at what he's been dealing with.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's don't underestimate that guy just came off the

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<v Speaker 1>surgery table ten days ago. Uh, he's been dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>the torn ligament in his non throwing time. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we can say it's not his throwing hand, which is true,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the same time, it's it's a major injury.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something that can't be taken lightly. So, um, is

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<v Speaker 1>there gonna be a little bit different? Is there a

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<v Speaker 1>difference in his play? Yes, and understandably. So that's where

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<v Speaker 1>the team concept has to come in and guys have

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<v Speaker 1>to make tough catches. Guys have to make plays that

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<v Speaker 1>they're not necessarily expected to make because you have a

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<v Speaker 1>leader in your offense that is hurting, that is down,

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<v Speaker 1>that that needs of help, that needs someone to step

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<v Speaker 1>up and just take a little bit of the pressure

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<v Speaker 1>off of him. Uh, you know, So that that's number

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<v Speaker 1>one I think is most important. That's when you have

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<v Speaker 1>one of your best players on one side of the

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<v Speaker 1>ball or the other that's down. Uh, that's hurt a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. You've got to have other players step up

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<v Speaker 1>and make up for that production. Secondly, I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just like to see him protect himself a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit better. I think these hits are starting to accumulate

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<v Speaker 1>on him. And although I love his grittiness, I love

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<v Speaker 1>his toughness, I mean that really starts to compound itself

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<v Speaker 1>as you get later on into the season. So think

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<v Speaker 1>about a little bit of self preservation and realize that

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<v Speaker 1>his availability and his ability to lead his team is

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<v Speaker 1>most important. Compared to getting an extra yard on a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback run and taking an unnecessary hit and then finally, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, staying stable, staying committed. That's what he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be about. That's what will allow the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>to persevere through this tough times. His stability and his

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<v Speaker 1>unwillingness to waiver. I think that's most important in providing

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<v Speaker 1>that stability for the team. You talked about explosion plays

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<v Speaker 1>down the field. Uh fits through a good deep ball

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<v Speaker 1>to rookie Devin Smith who unfortunately wasn't able to haul

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<v Speaker 1>that pass in otherwise that's a touchdown. And Devin Smith

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<v Speaker 1>has had some struggles here in his rookie season. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of players doing the National Football League making

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<v Speaker 1>that transition, and I'm not making excuses, but it's but

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<v Speaker 1>a tough year for Devin because first day a training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>basically he goes out with not only a broken ribs,

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<v Speaker 1>but he had punctured uh lacerated long, uh punctured long?

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me? And now you're seeing him trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>back up to speed and get involved in offense. And

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<v Speaker 1>obviously he's got some pressure on him. But what do

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<v Speaker 1>you do as a quarter act when you see a

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<v Speaker 1>guy obviously he was fighting at right now, you continue

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<v Speaker 1>to pump him up, You work with him after practice.

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<v Speaker 1>You you do little things to create small victories. I

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<v Speaker 1>think small victories and accountability habits create uh later success

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<v Speaker 1>And so right now for him, he's got to create

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<v Speaker 1>some small victories throughout practice and throughout the week to

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<v Speaker 1>build that confidence. You can't wait to make a play

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<v Speaker 1>in a game and then say, Okay, now I've got

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<v Speaker 1>the confidence to do that. You do that throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>week to build that commerce because once you get to

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<v Speaker 1>game day, we don't have time for that. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's most important. I think that the other learning tool,

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<v Speaker 1>or the lesson to be learned for younger players is

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<v Speaker 1>that in in the NFL, you don't get very many

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<v Speaker 1>and opportunities to make a difference. Um, it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>college or high school where you get multiple opportunities because

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<v Speaker 1>you're running nine plays a game in sixty to seventy

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<v Speaker 1>plays period in an NFL game, and so the limited

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<v Speaker 1>amount of opportunities that you get you must convert, you

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<v Speaker 1>must make That's just the nature of the game that

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<v Speaker 1>it's not going to change. It's always been that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Something that I had to learn as a young player,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you hope that he starts to understand that,

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<v Speaker 1>build those small victories in practice, work on those things,

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<v Speaker 1>and and see that come to fruition on game day.

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<v Speaker 1>Lost the amidst the latest Jets defeat was the play

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<v Speaker 1>of ballaal Pile back in the lineup for the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe since the Washington game. He had a career

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<v Speaker 1>high and receptions and receiving yards. Also showed a little

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<v Speaker 1>spark in the running game. Uh. Did you like what

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<v Speaker 1>you saw out of a Ballall as he returned to

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<v Speaker 1>the lineup, No question. And that's the type of small

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<v Speaker 1>production that I'm talking about to take the pressure off

0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:59.640
<v Speaker 1>of a player like Chris Ivory. So Powell was able

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<v Speaker 1>to do that and create some explosion plays, create some

0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.160
<v Speaker 1>plays that keep jobs alive instead of all being on

0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.160
<v Speaker 1>number thirty three. Same thing in the passing game, the

0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:12.120
<v Speaker 1>young receivers being able to step up make a couple

0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.760
<v Speaker 1>of plays to take the pressure off of Decker and Marshall.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the things that you're talking about. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what Balalpa did in the game, and that's something that

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<v Speaker 1>they had been missing. Uh, in the last few weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's nice to see him be able to

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<v Speaker 1>step back into the lineup and be productive. What do

0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:33.000
<v Speaker 1>you think about the defensive effort. Obviously, these guys hold

0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.720
<v Speaker 1>themselves to a really high standard, and their numbers are

0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.960
<v Speaker 1>still very good. And I know teams throughout the league

0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:44.000
<v Speaker 1>inside locker rooms aren't looking at total yards. They're looking

0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:48.040
<v Speaker 1>at wins and losses. But you know, they kept the

0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Jets in the game early, but then you had a

0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:54.040
<v Speaker 1>spot there where it was tens of time after Fits

0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and Brandon Marshall got together for their seventh scoring connection

0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:02.080
<v Speaker 1>on the season and then cease shorts and the Houston

0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Texans had a backbreaking thrive on the ensuing possession. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think what you have started to see, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think what the Texans did a really good job of.

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<v Speaker 1>They said, look, we know that we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>make our living against the Jets defense, uh four or

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<v Speaker 1>five yards at a time and be consistent at that.

0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:25.200
<v Speaker 1>They're too good to allow us to have those type

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<v Speaker 1>of drives and create double digit play series to to

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<v Speaker 1>drive and score touchdowns. And so they were able to

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<v Speaker 1>be creative and take advantage of some personnel things and

0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.680
<v Speaker 1>be creative with down the field shots. And you look

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<v Speaker 1>at their three touchdowns that they had, Uh, they were

0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.520
<v Speaker 1>down the field shots. One of them was more of

0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.800
<v Speaker 1>a creative trick play, um, and then the other two

0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.680
<v Speaker 1>were actually down the field shots. So I think teams

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<v Speaker 1>are saying, you know what, we can't be scared of

0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.640
<v Speaker 1>the Jets defense. Uh, in the fact that we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to take these down the field shot that's what's going

0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.480
<v Speaker 1>to give us some breathing room. And even if we

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<v Speaker 1>take six of them and only hit two, those are

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<v Speaker 1>two big plays that give us some breathing room to

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<v Speaker 1>them be able to punch in because right now the

0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Jets offense haven't shown that they're gonna put up points

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<v Speaker 1>a game. So a team's going in going, look, if

0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.840
<v Speaker 1>we can score seventeen to twenty points, we have a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to really win this game. How do we do that?

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<v Speaker 1>We create him down the field charts and take our chance.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like what you saw, uh Colevilan prior he

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<v Speaker 1>made a return to the lineup ball, so he was

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<v Speaker 1>out since the New England game. Uh, you know you

0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:38.280
<v Speaker 1>can think about that past defense. In the first quarter, Uh,

0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:43.280
<v Speaker 1>the Texans lined up j J wide wide and they

0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:45.440
<v Speaker 1>wanted to throw the fade to him, and Prior was

0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:49.200
<v Speaker 1>right there, and I thought throughout the ball game, number

0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:52.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty five was all over the place, and he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>continued to impress me in the second season. Well. I

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<v Speaker 1>think probably the biggest thing that stuck out to me

0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Eric was of his energy. I think that's important. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he brought a renewed sense of energy when he played,

0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's something that the team is missing

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<v Speaker 1>because whether it be just later in the season, or

0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:17.480
<v Speaker 1>it be the um intensity of the situation and the

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<v Speaker 1>pressure of the situation, that energy and that passion to

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<v Speaker 1>play the game and just be out there and communicating,

0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.080
<v Speaker 1>being excited about what you're doing and not just going

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<v Speaker 1>through your typical routine, but truly being committed to what

0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.400
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to get accomplished. I think that was evident

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<v Speaker 1>in the way that he played on Sunday, which I

0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:40.000
<v Speaker 1>think is going to be important moving forward throughout the

0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:44.280
<v Speaker 1>next six games. The Jets handled Miami across the Pond,

0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:48.800
<v Speaker 1>which seems months ago at this point. That was both

0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.680
<v Speaker 1>teams fourth game, and the Jets actually moved to three

0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:57.120
<v Speaker 1>and one uh with the rather convincing victory over the Dolphins. There,

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<v Speaker 1>now the teams meet for a second time. Uh, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think about this Miami team who comes and

0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:09.320
<v Speaker 1>visits the Jets and how different they might look. Well,

0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that their backs are against the wall. I

0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:15.480
<v Speaker 1>think you have two teams that UM are in a

0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:19.960
<v Speaker 1>similar situation. Uh. If we're splitting hairs here, there's no

0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:22.800
<v Speaker 1>doubt that Miami's back is completely against the wall. They

0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:25.960
<v Speaker 1>have no room for Arabian at four and six. UM,

0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:30.480
<v Speaker 1>they're still searching. UM, they've had a little bit of success.

0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:33.560
<v Speaker 1>UM since the coaching change. I think they are a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a different team than earlier in the

0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:39.480
<v Speaker 1>year when the Jets played them. But it's it's two

0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.399
<v Speaker 1>teams that that are just flat struggling to find a

0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:46.120
<v Speaker 1>way to win a football game. And so typically this

0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:49.840
<v Speaker 1>creates one of the best matchups of the week when

0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:52.720
<v Speaker 1>you're looking at two teams that are struggling, they're fighting

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<v Speaker 1>for their playoff lives. UM, they're looking to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>be able to put an anchor in the ground and

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<v Speaker 1>say this is who we are and we're making this run.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've got two teams in similar situations. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>certainly going to be a game that's gonna have some

0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:09.080
<v Speaker 1>fireworks and it's going to be intense. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>playoff game for both teams on paper that just should

0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:17.320
<v Speaker 1>be able to get the run game moving against this team.

0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:20.320
<v Speaker 1>The dolphinsive struggled throughout the year stop in the run.

0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Chris Ivory one went off against them in London, and

0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:28.439
<v Speaker 1>last week the Cowboys got it moving on the ground

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<v Speaker 1>against this Dolphins team who throughout this the entire two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand fifteen season, have really had a lot of holes

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<v Speaker 1>in their defense, specifically against that run game. Yes they have.

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<v Speaker 1>They certainly struggled, and when you look at them on paper,

0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:51.080
<v Speaker 1>you wonder why that they're, you know, having trouble in

0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:53.040
<v Speaker 1>the run game. But you know, I think it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a matter of will and and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>an offensive line against the defensive line, and just who

0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.040
<v Speaker 1>wants it and who's gonna execute better, and who's going

0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:05.280
<v Speaker 1>to be more tenacious and physical and and relentless. I

0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:08.040
<v Speaker 1>think that's what it's gonna build down to, and which

0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:12.160
<v Speaker 1>whichever offensive or defensive line takes it to the other,

0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:14.960
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna have the advantage and and play with some

0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:19.000
<v Speaker 1>enthusiasm and energy and a little bit of nastiness and

0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:21.159
<v Speaker 1>and have a little integree and you to where you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta say, we've got to established the line of scrimmage

0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:25.439
<v Speaker 1>here we we This is a matter of will. This

0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:29.120
<v Speaker 1>is a game that doesn't necessarily come down the game

0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:32.199
<v Speaker 1>plan as it comes down to just pure determination and

0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:35.600
<v Speaker 1>want to who's going to fight back and try to

0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:38.879
<v Speaker 1>help their team get back into the playoff RaSE. The

0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Jets are honor in the Super Bowl three team uh

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<v Speaker 1>during this ball game and also at halftime, Immerson Boozer

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<v Speaker 1>and Matt Snell will officially be inducted into the team's

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<v Speaker 1>ring honor. Thoughts on Booze and Matt's Snell uh going

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<v Speaker 1>taking their places on the Jets All Old Time Team, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's awesome and I think that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's appropriate that it just so happens to be

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<v Speaker 1>this week where you know, the Jets are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to to become a team that can

0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:17.840
<v Speaker 1>um compete for a world championship, and we're honoring a

0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:21.400
<v Speaker 1>team that did win the Ultimate Prize and two players

0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:25.880
<v Speaker 1>who were major contributors and really great Jet players during

0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:28.600
<v Speaker 1>that era. So I think it's a great time to

0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:32.240
<v Speaker 1>be able to celebrate, uh, their accomplishments and what they've

0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:35.119
<v Speaker 1>been able to do, and and uh, the type of

0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:37.440
<v Speaker 1>players that they were. You know, when you watch them

0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:39.640
<v Speaker 1>play and you see the old clips, I mean they're

0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:43.639
<v Speaker 1>just gritty, they're determined or just tough. I mean, they're

0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:46.440
<v Speaker 1>what football players are supposed to be. And I think

0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:48.640
<v Speaker 1>it's a great time to celebrate them. And they were

0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:51.520
<v Speaker 1>really aheat of their time because you think about the

0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:55.119
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixties. At that time, a lot of teams weren't

0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:59.119
<v Speaker 1>going to a backfield tandem, and that was one of

0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:04.919
<v Speaker 1>the pro full walls, real first true tandems, as the

0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:08.240
<v Speaker 1>Jets used both of these guys in the passing game

0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:12.959
<v Speaker 1>and the run game and as blockers as well, no question,

0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:15.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean they were very well rounded. And now we

0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:18.600
<v Speaker 1>have all of these specialists today. And when you look

0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:21.000
<v Speaker 1>at those two players, they were asked to do everything,

0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:25.320
<v Speaker 1>and uh, that's certainly a dying breed in our game today,

0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:29.719
<v Speaker 1>whereas in the past you look at two players like that,

0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:31.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean they were asked to do everything. They were

0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:35.440
<v Speaker 1>so versatile that they were capable of doing everything, and

0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:38.320
<v Speaker 1>and the team really counted up on them in every situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to get your thoughts real quickly on

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets waving of Quentin Coples this week. He was

0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:50.440
<v Speaker 1>drafted two thousand and twelve, first round pick number sixteen overall,

0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:54.280
<v Speaker 1>had sixteen and a half sacks the last three seasons,

0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:57.560
<v Speaker 1>but this year he really saw his playing time decreased.

0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:03.159
<v Speaker 1>Chad obviously more of an inside pass rusher than anything,

0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:07.199
<v Speaker 1>and he was playing the outside linebacker position, and the

0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Jets have been using Lorenzo mauld and a rookie out

0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:17.359
<v Speaker 1>of Louisville more and more in subsituations. Well, you know,

0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:20.919
<v Speaker 1>you hate to see that happened to players. Being a

0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:23.960
<v Speaker 1>player myself, you know, you know how difficult it is

0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:29.239
<v Speaker 1>to compete and producing this league and create longevity in

0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:33.679
<v Speaker 1>this league. And I think he'll find another spot. Sometimes

0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:36.119
<v Speaker 1>you get players that are on teams and you just

0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:39.399
<v Speaker 1>have too many good players at one spot and you

0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:43.800
<v Speaker 1>can't keep them all. I've seen that with great receivers. Uh,

0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, you see that with other players where they

0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:50.320
<v Speaker 1>just finally find their niche with an organization. So you know,

0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:53.120
<v Speaker 1>the releasing of Clinton doesn't mean that he can't play

0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:55.679
<v Speaker 1>in this league. I don't think that it's an indictment

0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:58.200
<v Speaker 1>upon him. It's just that he was on a team

0:23:58.200 --> 0:24:00.760
<v Speaker 1>that had some really talented play airs in the same

0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:03.679
<v Speaker 1>position that he was playing. And so your hope is

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:06.399
<v Speaker 1>that and I think it's a it's a it's a

0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:09.680
<v Speaker 1>move by coach Bowls where he's a former player and

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 1>he realizes that sometimes you have to make these business decisions,

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:16.840
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes these business decisions are actually good for the

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 1>organization and also even better for the player to where

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:24.520
<v Speaker 1>he can go find another opportunity to be productive and

0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:28.480
<v Speaker 1>another organization can use his skills, uh to its advantage.

0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:32.320
<v Speaker 1>So I hope that this turns into a positive uh

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 1>for Clinton. I've been on that. I've been in that

0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:39.360
<v Speaker 1>situation being ways where my my services weren't wanted anymore

0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:42.199
<v Speaker 1>by one organization, but they were they were found to

0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:46.639
<v Speaker 1>be very beneficial to another organization. So for him, you

0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:49.239
<v Speaker 1>hope that he's got the right mindset and realizes that

0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:51.480
<v Speaker 1>this is at the end of the road. It could

0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:54.720
<v Speaker 1>be just the beginning of another chapter in his NFL career. Yeah,

0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:58.960
<v Speaker 1>excellent point. Uh, strictly business decision, as Todd Bowles said,

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:03.160
<v Speaker 1>and not deal with anything that was happening off the field,

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 1>it became a numbers game. And as Bol said this week, Chaid, listen,

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:12.520
<v Speaker 1>we have a slew of players who play on the inside.

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 1>And Quintin was a good guy, while liked in the

0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:18.439
<v Speaker 1>locker room, did a lot of fine things in the

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 1>community throughout his tenure here. So everybody here wishes Quintin

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of luck. Uh So, final word from you,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your favorite Thanksgiving food? Oh? Man, let's see. I

0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:34.439
<v Speaker 1>am I love gravy. You know, I'm a biscuits and

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:36.879
<v Speaker 1>gravy fand so anytime we have a chance to have

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 1>gravy on something, I'm all about it. So probably everything

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:44.960
<v Speaker 1>on my plate will have baby on it. The turkey,

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 1>the dressing, the mashed potatoes. It'll probably even get mixed

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:52.160
<v Speaker 1>in with the corn and the greenbies. Whatever is on there,

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:55.480
<v Speaker 1>there will be gravy on my plate. I promise you that.

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 1>All right? For me, it's just fast forward to dessert

0:25:58.080 --> 0:26:00.480
<v Speaker 1>because I'm a pumpkin pie guy. Can don't wait for

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:04.480
<v Speaker 1>a little bit that here on Thursday? Uh buddy, Uh,

0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:08.160
<v Speaker 1>many blessings to you and your family and joy Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll talk to you next week. You two

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<v Speaker 1>happy Thanksgiving. Dollar Jet fans,