1 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to us Thanksgiving installment the Jets Audibles, Eric Allen, 2 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: joined by my partner Chad Punnyton, who actually is in 3 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: an interesting location today. You're a trooper, Chad. Uh. The 4 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: guys are telling me you are doing this podcast from 5 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: an automobile a car. Well, Eric, I'm always believe you 6 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: do whatever it takes to win, right, So I believe 7 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 1: that when I played, and I still believe it now. 8 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: So the kids are home from Thanksgiving break a little 9 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: bit crazy in the house. I stepped into my car 10 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: because I knew we wouldn't have any distractions, all right, 11 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: So what's the Punnington family doing for Thanksgiving? Well, we 12 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: are actually trying to enjoy a couple of days and 13 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: not having any sports activities, no school activities, and just 14 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: trying to recuperate from the fall of football in the 15 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: beginning of basketball. And then we will head to West 16 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: Virginia on Wednesday to enjoy the family for thanks Will 17 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: the boys go out and play and have a Thanksgiving 18 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: a game on the gridiron? You know what, that's not 19 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: a bad idea at all. I may even incorporate that 20 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: into our family schedule. That's that's a pretty good idea. 21 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: Thundering Herd plays Western Kentucky on Friday for the East 22 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: Division of the Conference USA Championship. So we will certainly 23 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: be watching a lot of football, and I'm sure they 24 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: would also be up for a football game. There's no 25 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: doubt about it. They love it. Did you guys ever 26 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: do that going growing up? Play a little football on Thanksgiving? Uh? 27 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: You know, I was noting. I was known in my 28 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: family for playing football games by myself. We would actually 29 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: go up and visit my grandparents in Lofallit, Tennessee, and 30 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: I would go out in my sweat pants and have 31 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: a football game by myself. Now imagine that like you 32 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: tackle yourself, you make great catches, you uh if you 33 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: pick up fumble as you make interceptions, and the most 34 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: important thing, you always win. So it was it was 35 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: a win win situation from well, yeah, so I guess 36 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: you were the star of the game. Listen, Uh, did 37 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: you do play by play while you're out there playing 38 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: uh football against yourself? No doubt about it. You've got 39 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: to give a little commentating and play by play, you know, 40 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: with penning to making a great catch or painting and 41 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: scooping up the fumble or intercepting the ball, you know, 42 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: jumping over the pile, touchdown, all those things that really 43 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: bring back great Chilithood's memory. Alright, Chad, what's your message 44 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: for Jets Nation? The Green and White suffer another a 45 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: tough DEFEATO one possession game there at that, but unfortunately 46 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: they couldn't climb back into a tie with the Texans, 47 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: and now they're five and five. Well, if you, I 48 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: think there's two perspectives here for Jet fans, and most importantly, 49 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: there's two perspectives here for the team. Um. First of all, 50 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: the inner perspect to is, hey, the team is struggling 51 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: and and the team is trying to find a way 52 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: to just get back into the wind Colin. And so 53 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: the narrow perspective is to think the world's coming to 54 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: an end. They're five and five, they've lost four out 55 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: of five, they're certainly on a downward trend. And as 56 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: a team, I don't think you can buy into all 57 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: of that. I think you've got to broaden your perspective 58 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: and look at it big picture and look at the league, 59 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: look at where you are, and say, if we said 60 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: we would be at five and five at the beginning 61 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: of season, would we feel good that we can make 62 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: a playoff run. I think that uh answer to that 63 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: question is yes, we would feel good that we could 64 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: make a playoff run. Right now, you don't feel good 65 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: about a playoff run because of where you are in 66 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: healthy started. So from a team's perspective, you always need 67 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: to take the positive approach. You can't pessimism leap to 68 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: complete breakdown and failure. So you have to be optimistic. 69 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: Can go Okay, yeah, we've screwed this thing up completely 70 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: starting out four and one, we're five and five, but 71 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: we are in the playoffs hunt, and so what can 72 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: we do as a team to flush these ten games, 73 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: focus on these nick six and make a playoff runt. 74 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: Isn't there a difference? And I keep on coming back 75 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: to this because I was with Herds for five years, 76 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: But isn't there a difference between perception and reality? Remember, 77 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people do. Remember forget the 78 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: fact that the Jets finished four and twelve last season, 79 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: and there were some talk in New York this week 80 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: that hey, the Jets are frauds. But ched this team 81 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,119 Speaker 1: wasn't saying before they matched up with the New England 82 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: Patriots that they were Super Bowl contenders. In fact to 83 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: Todd Bowls has been the same way each and every week, 84 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: no question. I completely agree with that. And that's the 85 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: big picture of perspective you're talk talking about is saying 86 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: it's a team that was four and twelve, had a 87 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: lot of turnover, coaching, change um, and then the early 88 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: um success of the team maybe have given it may 89 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: have given a false perception out there that this team 90 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: was ready. Now, as as teammates and as individuals, you 91 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: always believe you've got a chance to play for a championship, 92 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: There's no question about that. And they certainly as an 93 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: organization made moves to take that next stride to start 94 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: to play for championships and had some early success to 95 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: leave you to believe that they could do that. And 96 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: that's still possible. Uh that that is certainly not out 97 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: of the realm of possibilities as far as being able 98 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: to make a playoff run and get into the playoffs. 99 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: But right now, the feeling obviously around the town and 100 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: as Jet fans, you don't feel good about where you 101 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: are because you have seen regression and not progression, so 102 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: that that feeling out there is understandable. But as a team, 103 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: you can't worry about that. You've got to focus on it. 104 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: We are what we are. We're five and five. There's 105 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 1: a reason we're five and five. Now, if we understand 106 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: what those reasons are, and we understand that those things 107 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: can be fixed, that we can change this scenario quickly. 108 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick told me last night on Inside the Jots, 109 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:17,119 Speaker 1: you have to ignore the noise. How difficult is that 110 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,119 Speaker 1: for you, the player in a place like New York, 111 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: to say, Hey, whatever is going on in the outside, 112 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: forget about it. We gotta lock it up inside the 113 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: locker room and find something we can hang our hat 114 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: on right now. Well, it's it's it's very important. It's 115 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: the most important thing when you play in New York. 116 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: And that's why some players can survive and some players 117 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: can't um But there there is. It's important to understand 118 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: why ignore the noise means. In my opinion, ignore the 119 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: noise means you you ignore the things that really aren't 120 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: replevant to your situation. But you cannot nor the things 121 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: that are relevant to your situation and ignore. You cannot 122 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: ignore the mistakes being made. You cannot ignore the same 123 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: mistake being repeated. You cannot ignore the lack of production, 124 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: and you have to look at those things, truly strip 125 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: yourself down as an individual and as a team, analyze 126 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: those and make a conscious effort to correct those things. 127 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: So ignore the noise as far as the negativity out there, absolutely, 128 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: but do not ignore the noise when it comes to 129 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: what are the real reasons we are struggling as a 130 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: team and how do we fix those things? And what 131 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: do you think are the real reasons that the Jets 132 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: have hit a rough patch here uh in the middle 133 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: of the year. Well, offensively, I think the lack of 134 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: big plays, chunk plays. I think that's what has reared 135 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: its ugly head over the last few weeks is that, um, 136 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: you haven't had very many plays made down the field 137 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: to make drives a little easier. Um to where you 138 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: can't survive in this league by having fourteen play fIF 139 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: team play drives every series. Defenses are too good, schemes 140 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: and coordinators are too good to allow you to do 141 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: that on a consistent basis. You have to have some 142 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: chunk plays that turn a possible four team play series 143 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: into a seven play series because you had a forty 144 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: or fifty yard game and those plays have not been 145 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: made and and I think that some of the younger 146 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: players on offense and some of the players that don't 147 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: get their number called as often as the UH typical 148 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: players do, such as the Brandon Marshall's, the Chris Ivory's, 149 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: Eric Jackers, those are the guys that need to step 150 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: up and make a chunk play and make a make 151 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: a big time catch, a big time run, whatever it 152 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: may be, to alleviate some of the stress that's put 153 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: on an offense by trying to have it to produce 154 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: those fourteen or fifteen a series. Well, if Fitzpatrick admittedly 155 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: as he hasn't played really well in the past few weeks, 156 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: from your perspective, what have you seen on film from 157 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: the Jets fatchan signal caller? Well, I think number one, 158 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: you've got to really look at what he's been dealing with. 159 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: Let's let's don't underestimate that guy just came off the 160 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: surgery table ten days ago. Uh, he's been dealing with 161 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: the torn ligament in his non throwing time. And yes, 162 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: we can say it's not his throwing hand, which is true, 163 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: but at the same time, it's it's a major injury. 164 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: It's something that can't be taken lightly. So, um, is 165 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: there gonna be a little bit different? Is there a 166 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: difference in his play? Yes, and understandably. So that's where 167 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: the team concept has to come in and guys have 168 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,599 Speaker 1: to make tough catches. Guys have to make plays that 169 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: they're not necessarily expected to make because you have a 170 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: leader in your offense that is hurting, that is down, 171 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: that that needs of help, that needs someone to step 172 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: up and just take a little bit of the pressure 173 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: off of him. Uh, you know, So that that's number 174 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: one I think is most important. That's when you have 175 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: one of your best players on one side of the 176 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: ball or the other that's down. Uh, that's hurt a 177 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: little bit. You've got to have other players step up 178 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: and make up for that production. Secondly, I think, you know, 179 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: I'll just like to see him protect himself a little 180 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: bit better. I think these hits are starting to accumulate 181 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: on him. And although I love his grittiness, I love 182 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: his toughness, I mean that really starts to compound itself 183 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: as you get later on into the season. So think 184 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: about a little bit of self preservation and realize that 185 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: his availability and his ability to lead his team is 186 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: most important. Compared to getting an extra yard on a 187 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: quarterback run and taking an unnecessary hit and then finally, uh, 188 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: just you know, staying stable, staying committed. That's what he's 189 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: going to be about. That's what will allow the Jets 190 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: to persevere through this tough times. His stability and his 191 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: unwillingness to waiver. I think that's most important in providing 192 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: that stability for the team. You talked about explosion plays 193 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: down the field. Uh fits through a good deep ball 194 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: to rookie Devin Smith who unfortunately wasn't able to haul 195 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: that pass in otherwise that's a touchdown. And Devin Smith 196 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: has had some struggles here in his rookie season. There's 197 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: a lot of players doing the National Football League making 198 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: that transition, and I'm not making excuses, but it's but 199 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: a tough year for Devin because first day a training camp, 200 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: basically he goes out with not only a broken ribs, 201 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: but he had punctured uh lacerated long, uh punctured long? 202 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: Excuse me? And now you're seeing him trying to get 203 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: back up to speed and get involved in offense. And 204 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: obviously he's got some pressure on him. But what do 205 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: you do as a quarter act when you see a 206 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: guy obviously he was fighting at right now, you continue 207 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: to pump him up, You work with him after practice. 208 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: You you do little things to create small victories. I 209 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: think small victories and accountability habits create uh later success 210 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: And so right now for him, he's got to create 211 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: some small victories throughout practice and throughout the week to 212 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: build that confidence. You can't wait to make a play 213 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: in a game and then say, Okay, now I've got 214 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: the confidence to do that. You do that throughout the 215 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: week to build that commerce because once you get to 216 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: game day, we don't have time for that. So I 217 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: think that's most important. I think that the other learning tool, 218 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: or the lesson to be learned for younger players is 219 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: that in in the NFL, you don't get very many 220 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: and opportunities to make a difference. Um, it's not like 221 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: college or high school where you get multiple opportunities because 222 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: you're running nine plays a game in sixty to seventy 223 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: plays period in an NFL game, and so the limited 224 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: amount of opportunities that you get you must convert, you 225 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: must make That's just the nature of the game that 226 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: it's not going to change. It's always been that way. 227 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: Something that I had to learn as a young player, 228 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: and so you hope that he starts to understand that, 229 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: build those small victories in practice, work on those things, 230 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: and and see that come to fruition on game day. 231 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: Lost the amidst the latest Jets defeat was the play 232 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: of ballaal Pile back in the lineup for the first time, 233 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: I believe since the Washington game. He had a career 234 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: high and receptions and receiving yards. Also showed a little 235 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: spark in the running game. Uh. Did you like what 236 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: you saw out of a Ballall as he returned to 237 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: the lineup, No question. And that's the type of small 238 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: production that I'm talking about to take the pressure off 239 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: of a player like Chris Ivory. So Powell was able 240 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: to do that and create some explosion plays, create some 241 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: plays that keep jobs alive instead of all being on 242 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: number thirty three. Same thing in the passing game, the 243 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: young receivers being able to step up make a couple 244 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: of plays to take the pressure off of Decker and Marshall. 245 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: Those are the things that you're talking about. And that's 246 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: what Balalpa did in the game, and that's something that 247 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: they had been missing. Uh, in the last few weeks, 248 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: and so it's nice to see him be able to 249 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: step back into the lineup and be productive. What do 250 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: you think about the defensive effort. Obviously, these guys hold 251 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: themselves to a really high standard, and their numbers are 252 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: still very good. And I know teams throughout the league 253 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: inside locker rooms aren't looking at total yards. They're looking 254 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: at wins and losses. But you know, they kept the 255 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: Jets in the game early, but then you had a 256 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: spot there where it was tens of time after Fits 257 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: and Brandon Marshall got together for their seventh scoring connection 258 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: on the season and then cease shorts and the Houston 259 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: Texans had a backbreaking thrive on the ensuing possession. Well, 260 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: I think what you have started to see, and I 261 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: think what the Texans did a really good job of. 262 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: They said, look, we know that we're not going to 263 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: make our living against the Jets defense, uh four or 264 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: five yards at a time and be consistent at that. 265 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: They're too good to allow us to have those type 266 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: of drives and create double digit play series to to 267 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: drive and score touchdowns. And so they were able to 268 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: be creative and take advantage of some personnel things and 269 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: be creative with down the field shots. And you look 270 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: at their three touchdowns that they had, Uh, they were 271 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: down the field shots. One of them was more of 272 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: a creative trick play, um, and then the other two 273 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: were actually down the field shots. So I think teams 274 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: are saying, you know what, we can't be scared of 275 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: the Jets defense. Uh, in the fact that we've got 276 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: to take these down the field shot that's what's going 277 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: to give us some breathing room. And even if we 278 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: take six of them and only hit two, those are 279 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: two big plays that give us some breathing room to 280 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: them be able to punch in because right now the 281 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: Jets offense haven't shown that they're gonna put up points 282 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: a game. So a team's going in going, look, if 283 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: we can score seventeen to twenty points, we have a 284 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: chance to really win this game. How do we do that? 285 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: We create him down the field charts and take our chance. 286 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: Do you like what you saw, uh Colevilan prior he 287 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: made a return to the lineup ball, so he was 288 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: out since the New England game. Uh, you know you 289 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: can think about that past defense. In the first quarter, Uh, 290 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: the Texans lined up j J wide wide and they 291 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: wanted to throw the fade to him, and Prior was 292 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: right there, and I thought throughout the ball game, number 293 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: twenty five was all over the place, and he's he's 294 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: continued to impress me in the second season. Well. I 295 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: think probably the biggest thing that stuck out to me 296 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: Eric was of his energy. I think that's important. I 297 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: think he brought a renewed sense of energy when he played, 298 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: and I think that's something that the team is missing 299 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: because whether it be just later in the season, or 300 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: it be the um intensity of the situation and the 301 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: pressure of the situation, that energy and that passion to 302 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 1: play the game and just be out there and communicating, 303 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: being excited about what you're doing and not just going 304 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: through your typical routine, but truly being committed to what 305 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: you're trying to get accomplished. I think that was evident 306 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: in the way that he played on Sunday, which I 307 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: think is going to be important moving forward throughout the 308 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: next six games. The Jets handled Miami across the Pond, 309 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: which seems months ago at this point. That was both 310 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: teams fourth game, and the Jets actually moved to three 311 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: and one uh with the rather convincing victory over the Dolphins. There, 312 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: now the teams meet for a second time. Uh, what 313 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: do you think about this Miami team who comes and 314 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: visits the Jets and how different they might look. Well, 315 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: I think that their backs are against the wall. I 316 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: think you have two teams that UM are in a 317 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: similar situation. Uh. If we're splitting hairs here, there's no 318 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: doubt that Miami's back is completely against the wall. They 319 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: have no room for Arabian at four and six. UM, 320 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: they're still searching. UM, they've had a little bit of success. 321 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: UM since the coaching change. I think they are a 322 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: little bit of a different team than earlier in the 323 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: year when the Jets played them. But it's it's two 324 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: teams that that are just flat struggling to find a 325 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: way to win a football game. And so typically this 326 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: creates one of the best matchups of the week when 327 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: you're looking at two teams that are struggling, they're fighting 328 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: for their playoff lives. UM, they're looking to, you know, 329 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: be able to put an anchor in the ground and 330 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: say this is who we are and we're making this run. 331 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: And you've got two teams in similar situations. So it's 332 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: certainly going to be a game that's gonna have some 333 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: fireworks and it's going to be intense. This is a 334 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: playoff game for both teams on paper that just should 335 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: be able to get the run game moving against this team. 336 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: The dolphinsive struggled throughout the year stop in the run. 337 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: Chris Ivory one went off against them in London, and 338 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: last week the Cowboys got it moving on the ground 339 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: against this Dolphins team who throughout this the entire two 340 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: thousand fifteen season, have really had a lot of holes 341 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: in their defense, specifically against that run game. Yes they have. 342 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: They certainly struggled, and when you look at them on paper, 343 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: you wonder why that they're, you know, having trouble in 344 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: the run game. But you know, I think it's going 345 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: to be a matter of will and and you know, 346 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: an offensive line against the defensive line, and just who 347 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: wants it and who's gonna execute better, and who's going 348 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: to be more tenacious and physical and and relentless. I 349 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: think that's what it's gonna build down to, and which 350 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: whichever offensive or defensive line takes it to the other, 351 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna have the advantage and and play with some 352 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: enthusiasm and energy and a little bit of nastiness and 353 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: and have a little integree and you to where you 354 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: gotta say, we've got to established the line of scrimmage 355 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: here we we This is a matter of will. This 356 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: is a game that doesn't necessarily come down the game 357 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: plan as it comes down to just pure determination and 358 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: want to who's going to fight back and try to 359 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: help their team get back into the playoff RaSE. The 360 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: Jets are honor in the Super Bowl three team uh 361 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: during this ball game and also at halftime, Immerson Boozer 362 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: and Matt Snell will officially be inducted into the team's 363 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: ring honor. Thoughts on Booze and Matt's Snell uh going 364 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: taking their places on the Jets All Old Time Team, Well, 365 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: I think it's awesome and I think that you know, 366 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: it's it's appropriate that it just so happens to be 367 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: this week where you know, the Jets are trying to 368 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: find a way to to become a team that can 369 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: um compete for a world championship, and we're honoring a 370 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: team that did win the Ultimate Prize and two players 371 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: who were major contributors and really great Jet players during 372 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: that era. So I think it's a great time to 373 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: be able to celebrate, uh, their accomplishments and what they've 374 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: been able to do, and and uh, the type of 375 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: players that they were. You know, when you watch them 376 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: play and you see the old clips, I mean they're 377 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: just gritty, they're determined or just tough. I mean, they're 378 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: what football players are supposed to be. And I think 379 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: it's a great time to celebrate them. And they were 380 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: really aheat of their time because you think about the 381 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties. At that time, a lot of teams weren't 382 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: going to a backfield tandem, and that was one of 383 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: the pro full walls, real first true tandems, as the 384 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: Jets used both of these guys in the passing game 385 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 1: and the run game and as blockers as well, no question, 386 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: I mean they were very well rounded. And now we 387 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: have all of these specialists today. And when you look 388 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: at those two players, they were asked to do everything, 389 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: and uh, that's certainly a dying breed in our game today, 390 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 1: whereas in the past you look at two players like that, 391 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: I mean they were asked to do everything. They were 392 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: so versatile that they were capable of doing everything, and 393 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: and the team really counted up on them in every situation. 394 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: I just want to get your thoughts real quickly on 395 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: the Jets waving of Quentin Coples this week. He was 396 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: drafted two thousand and twelve, first round pick number sixteen overall, 397 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: had sixteen and a half sacks the last three seasons, 398 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: but this year he really saw his playing time decreased. 399 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: Chad obviously more of an inside pass rusher than anything, 400 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: and he was playing the outside linebacker position, and the 401 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: Jets have been using Lorenzo mauld and a rookie out 402 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: of Louisville more and more in subsituations. Well, you know, 403 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: you hate to see that happened to players. Being a 404 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: player myself, you know, you know how difficult it is 405 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:29,239 Speaker 1: to compete and producing this league and create longevity in 406 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: this league. And I think he'll find another spot. Sometimes 407 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: you get players that are on teams and you just 408 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: have too many good players at one spot and you 409 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: can't keep them all. I've seen that with great receivers. Uh, 410 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, you see that with other players where they 411 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: just finally find their niche with an organization. So you know, 412 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: the releasing of Clinton doesn't mean that he can't play 413 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: in this league. I don't think that it's an indictment 414 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: upon him. It's just that he was on a team 415 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: that had some really talented play airs in the same 416 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: position that he was playing. And so your hope is 417 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: that and I think it's a it's a it's a 418 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: move by coach Bowls where he's a former player and 419 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: he realizes that sometimes you have to make these business decisions, 420 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: and sometimes these business decisions are actually good for the 421 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: organization and also even better for the player to where 422 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: he can go find another opportunity to be productive and 423 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: another organization can use his skills, uh to its advantage. 424 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: So I hope that this turns into a positive uh 425 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: for Clinton. I've been on that. I've been in that 426 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: situation being ways where my my services weren't wanted anymore 427 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: by one organization, but they were they were found to 428 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: be very beneficial to another organization. So for him, you 429 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,239 Speaker 1: hope that he's got the right mindset and realizes that 430 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: this is at the end of the road. It could 431 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: be just the beginning of another chapter in his NFL career. Yeah, 432 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: excellent point. Uh, strictly business decision, as Todd Bowles said, 433 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: and not deal with anything that was happening off the field, 434 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: it became a numbers game. And as Bol said this week, Chaid, listen, 435 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: we have a slew of players who play on the inside. 436 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: And Quintin was a good guy, while liked in the 437 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: locker room, did a lot of fine things in the 438 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: community throughout his tenure here. So everybody here wishes Quintin 439 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: a lot of luck. Uh So, final word from you, 440 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 1: what's your favorite Thanksgiving food? Oh? Man, let's see. I 441 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: am I love gravy. You know, I'm a biscuits and 442 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: gravy fand so anytime we have a chance to have 443 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: gravy on something, I'm all about it. So probably everything 444 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: on my plate will have baby on it. The turkey, 445 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: the dressing, the mashed potatoes. It'll probably even get mixed 446 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: in with the corn and the greenbies. Whatever is on there, 447 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: there will be gravy on my plate. I promise you that. 448 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: All right? For me, it's just fast forward to dessert 449 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: because I'm a pumpkin pie guy. Can don't wait for 450 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: a little bit that here on Thursday? Uh buddy, Uh, 451 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: many blessings to you and your family and joy Thanksgiving 452 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: and then we'll talk to you next week. You two 453 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: happy Thanksgiving. Dollar Jet fans,