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Speaker 1: and it has been a stressful few days since our

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Speaker 1: last episode. We finally got some Mets baseball, We got

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Speaker 1: at home. So we're going to talk about the Philly series,

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Speaker 1: mostly a little bit of a Marlin's preview. Of course.

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Speaker 2: Intro is a lot less chipper than our previous few episodes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a really frustrating few days. I think,

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Speaker 1: like the last was it seventy two hours then three

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels it feels like an entire season has

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Speaker 2: already gone by. It's like it's it's as if the

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Speaker 2: Mets haven't as if we play fifty games already.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just been like it's been so every game

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Speaker 1: feels like it's been a battle. And I think I

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Speaker 1: even tweet about it in Game two, and we'll get

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Speaker 1: into all the games of course more detail, but Game

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Speaker 1: two felt like the closest eight to four game of

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Speaker 1: all time. There just hasn't been anything you tweet six

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Speaker 1: to two six two, Yeah, but I mean I think

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Speaker 1: it finished eight four right, still four run lead, and

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Speaker 1: it felt like at any moment the Mets were ready

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Speaker 1: to blow it. A lot of stuff went on and

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Speaker 1: it just like wasn't a great three games games of baseball.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know if I'm here to blame

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Speaker 1: the National break, because we, I mean, have had six

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Speaker 1: or seven days off and a lot of the pitchers

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Speaker 1: haven't thrown in like guys Chicken Barnes, I think they

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Speaker 1: said been thrown like ten days, yeah, Jacob the grum Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So like, I don't know if it's to blame for that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're not gonna be this bad of a team.

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Speaker 1: We know that all year long. But of course there's

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Speaker 1: some things that are definitely concerning right now, and I

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Speaker 1: just I don't like what I'm seeing.

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Speaker 2: It definitely might look weird, just like in a vacuum

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Speaker 2: that our first three games, where team's fourth, fifth and

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Speaker 2: six games, like there's just a general like off tilt

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Speaker 2: and rustiness when every single team finds a level probably

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Speaker 2: after four or five games that the Mets just didn't

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Speaker 2: have that luxury. But that's a piss poor excuse. This

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Speaker 2: team played like a joke for three days, honestly, Like

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Speaker 2: even the wind felt awful, Like every everything about these

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Speaker 2: last couple of days was just brutal. It felt like

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Speaker 2: getting just punching the gut repeatedly, but then asking for more.

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Speaker 1: It was awful. It's it's you see us like we're

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Speaker 1: taking deep breaths, where just like very somber. It feels

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Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, because it's hard. It's a hard conversation

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Speaker 1: now because I'm not trying to go too crazy, because

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Speaker 1: go three and zer against the Phillies every single time.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna go to win one against the Phillies

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Speaker 1: every single time. We did get one win in a

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Speaker 1: series where we played as the worst team. For sure,

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Speaker 2: Game one got off to a really weird start, just

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Speaker 2: it was weird. I understand the logic of wanting your

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Speaker 2: it's kind of telling that, first of all, Polar was

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Speaker 2: believe that Polar is a much better defensive player than Nimo,

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Speaker 2: and he's probably better, but I don't think at this

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Speaker 1: He's better.

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Speaker 2: Like that play he made on the Hoskins double caught

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Dominic Smith doesn't make that play. Or but

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Speaker 2: why the fuck is Kevin Pilar hitting leadoff?

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Speaker 1: That's insane. There's no there's no reason. Ever, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: Hit the guy leadoff. No, it's just it's like very

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Speaker 1: And there's just no world where Kevin Pillar should be

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And like I understand, a lefty was on the mound,

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Speaker 2: few years, they haven't really liked hitting Nemo or McNeil

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Speaker 2: Nemo should be the leadoff hitter. His on base percentage

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Speaker 2: no reason that he should hit anywhere besides one, let

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Speaker 1: Why is he hitting eighth?

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Speaker 2: Like, how could you are his splits aren't Isn't that

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Speaker 2: different where at some point in the lineup he's like

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. Yeah, So, actually looking at

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Speaker 1: he's a better hitter. I agree with you, Like it

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Speaker 1: just doesn't really that was a weird start to.

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Speaker 2: The day, especially like Dom has becomes such an emotional

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Speaker 2: most people would agree with that and not him just

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Speaker 2: not being in the lineup just felt strange. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: just like a twenty twenty split sample, what was that?

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Speaker 1: And like forty at bats? He got fifty one at bats.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's let's take an even better look at

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Speaker 2: But that, like fifty at bats is like a glorified

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Speaker 2: don't know, it's just perplexing that they would the Mets

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Speaker 2: Even from an emotional standpoint, just the idea of not

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Speaker 2: it's strange, it's weird. I'm sure the guys even felt

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Speaker 2: been expecting Matt Moore to throw more than seventy pitches

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Speaker 2: But then it even became a situation where I remember

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Speaker 1: Disagree with that tremendously. See I'm not gonna get on

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Speaker 1: there is no guarantee that Dom was not going to

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Speaker 1: At worse, we're up two, let's prioritize defense, especially because

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Speaker 2: But like, if you wanted the defensive substitution for later

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Speaker 2: And if the Mets, as it looked like by drawing

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Speaker 2: it would make logical sense based on the logic from

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Speaker 2: I'm not seeing like the process that we were logging

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Speaker 1: Fair, where you did say, like, if we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: I was just like, that's the lineup that we need

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Speaker 1: Is albert Almore gonna start over? Nemo?

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Speaker 2: Now? I mean like I don't even know watching ALBERTA.

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Speaker 2: Stro Marcus Stroman was great. Sick he was he was fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Five hundred and fifty seven days since his last start.

436
00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,240
Speaker 2: Howie Roseman on the radio the radio broadcast were fire

437
00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:34,840
Speaker 2: for all three of these games. I listen to the

438
00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,440
Speaker 2: first two, most of them on the radio, and Howie

439
00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,720
Speaker 2: and Waymann Dazzer were dropping heat. Marcus Strowman five hundred

440
00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:44,200
Speaker 2: and fifty seven days since his last start or about wait,

441
00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,160
Speaker 2: what was this stad He took six months to come

442
00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,640
Speaker 2: back from his torn ACL, so about three times the

443
00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,000
Speaker 2: amount of time it took him to come back from

444
00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,320
Speaker 2: a torn ACL was how many days in between the

445
00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:53,360
Speaker 2: start and his last one.

446
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Speaker 1: That's crazy. His slider looked pretty good. His fastball is

447
00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:58,960
Speaker 1: so I don't hit the two seam he was thrown

448
00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,960
Speaker 1: that he was getting inside of the looked really good.

449
00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,399
Speaker 2: It's also interesting that he basically threw all two seams.

450
00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:07,960
Speaker 2: There's just like a few sliders and a few of

451
00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,200
Speaker 2: the split changes mixed in, just like the ground mostly

452
00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,199
Speaker 2: through fastball. So I think there's probably something that the

453
00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,480
Speaker 2: Mets are doing philosophically early in the season where they're

454
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Speaker 2: focusing on the fastballs and the probably going to build

455
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Speaker 2: up to breaking stuff, which is something to keep an

456
00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,560
Speaker 2: eye on these next few times through the rotation. But

457
00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,080
Speaker 2: Serom had twenty eight percent WIF rate, which was better

458
00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,800
Speaker 2: than the twenty four percent he had in twenty nineteen

459
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Speaker 2: and better than the twenty percent he had the year before.

460
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Speaker 1: Then.

461
00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,360
Speaker 2: He again he didn't see the split changed that much,

462
00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,239
Speaker 2: but he was getting ground balls all night, which is

463
00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,160
Speaker 2: I love to see that out of him. His spin

464
00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,720
Speaker 2: rate on every one of his pitches was ticked up

465
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Speaker 2: at least a few percents from twenty nineteen, which is cool,

466
00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,480
Speaker 2: which shows that all the work he was putting in

467
00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,800
Speaker 2: a code of fi, like these pitches have beafed up

468
00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,240
Speaker 2: a little bit, which is pretty pretty fun and pristackass.

469
00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,680
Speaker 2: He did not allow one fly ball the whole game.

470
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Speaker 1: That's like, honestly, that's the same there was.

471
00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,520
Speaker 2: There was one line drive, and like there's always like

472
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Speaker 2: a range of error between fly drives and fly balls,

473
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Speaker 2: Like it's kind of hard to decide for which is which.

474
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Speaker 2: But that's sick. No fly balls, that's insane.

475
00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,840
Speaker 1: That's especially in you know, ciss Bank Park, which is

476
00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,560
Speaker 1: such a bandbox. Any ball in the York could go

477
00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,400
Speaker 1: out at any time. Yeah, I mean like he pitted

478
00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,199
Speaker 1: really well. Stroman. I think any sort of doubts that

479
00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,959
Speaker 1: people have had about him. I think you can shake him.

480
00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,959
Speaker 1: You go, Okay, he's at least going to give us

481
00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,520
Speaker 1: six good innings probably every single start and keep us

482
00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,760
Speaker 1: competitive at worst. But he's gonna be able to win

483
00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:20,560
Speaker 1: us some games too.

484
00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,320
Speaker 2: We needed that so bad after losing the Grom game.

485
00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,600
Speaker 2: To lose to Gram and Stroman back to back days

486
00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,000
Speaker 2: but been a real like a knife in the heart.

487
00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,679
Speaker 1: Imagine how we would have felt if we lost this

488
00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,000
Speaker 1: series getting swept as opposed. We weren't one in two,

489
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Speaker 1: not at the end of the world.

490
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Speaker 2: No, it was fine, five hundred tomorrow whatever. Yeah, but

491
00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,359
Speaker 2: that was like the that was the good. And then

492
00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,480
Speaker 2: again the lineup was good game too. We put some

493
00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,200
Speaker 2: runs on the board finally, not a lot of hitting,

494
00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,040
Speaker 2: but like just the ability to take all those walks

495
00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:43,880
Speaker 2: from Vince Velasquez.

496
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Speaker 1: Take that to the bank every time. Our guy. We

497
00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,359
Speaker 1: talked about him last time, but hey, I don't think

498
00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,240
Speaker 1: he's in a bullpen. Well that's wild because he'll just strike.

499
00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,960
Speaker 1: But granted he threw like forty pitches and he was

500
00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,400
Speaker 1: They just kept him in there, and I was like, Joe.

501
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, thank you, Ilso no clue why that

502
00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,399
Speaker 2: least was so long, and even after him out the

503
00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,119
Speaker 2: pro Kinceler and again do like forty pitches this year.

504
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,600
Speaker 1: He wasn't like a kidding me, Would you like me? Really? Yeah? Yeah?

505
00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,119
Speaker 2: And that's a great segue to the biggest problem I

506
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,359
Speaker 2: had with the Mets in Game two was running the

507
00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,920
Speaker 2: exact same ballpen out two days in a row.

508
00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,080
Speaker 1: What the fuck is that? And that was with the

509
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:16,760
Speaker 1: four run lead.

510
00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I understand Castro and only took him nine

511
00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,920
Speaker 2: pitches the first game, But you're letting major league hittherers

512
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,399
Speaker 2: see this guy two days in a row.

513
00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,600
Speaker 1: Yep? Why would you? Why would you want that? And

514
00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,440
Speaker 1: and they did hit the ball hard against him the

515
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,840
Speaker 1: night before, they did hit some ropes around the field.

516
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,240
Speaker 1: So it wasn't like he got the He got the

517
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,399
Speaker 1: job done one hundred percent, but it wasn't like he was,

518
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, one hundred and one three strikeout to see

519
00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,200
Speaker 1: you next time, yeah, definitely.

520
00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,240
Speaker 2: And then again to bring May in the day after

521
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,280
Speaker 2: he was ineffective and through twenty two high stress pitches.

522
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:44,240
Speaker 1: I can't.

523
00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,240
Speaker 2: I can't wrap my mind around the logic there.

524
00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,200
Speaker 1: And he he's a guy who is a Timmy John

525
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 1: guy too, So like you gotta be careful with his

526
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,480
Speaker 1: arm because or high leverage, high stress situations. That's like

527
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,760
Speaker 1: what everybody talks about when you start talking about arm injuries,

528
00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,200
Speaker 1: is limiting those pitches. And maybe May maybe you just

529
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,679
Speaker 1: don't know much about May yet. Maybe he's a guy

530
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,440
Speaker 1: who likes to pitch him back to back days. Maybe

531
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 1: he's a guy who's like, no, you gotta throw me

532
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 1: out there so I can get back on track with stuff. No,

533
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 1: I like back to back days.

534
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,440
Speaker 2: But twenty two pitches a lot for reliever who got

535
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,399
Speaker 2: I think he got went out in the entire outing.

536
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,959
Speaker 1: And like you wasted him for today, which not that

537
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,160
Speaker 1: it mattered because of how he played, but in theory,

538
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 1: you used him in a game that he didn't need

539
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,439
Speaker 1: to be used in. Yeah, definitely.

540
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,120
Speaker 2: God, how how bad Wasieri's familiar?

541
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god? No, but he wasn't though, that's a thing.

542
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 1: But like he gave it again. You want to talk

543
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,240
Speaker 1: about like hard contact and soft contact he gave Yeah, No,

544
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,400
Speaker 1: there was three bloops basically.

545
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,879
Speaker 2: But like I I hate when relievers don't throw strikes.

546
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 2: It's the most infuriating thing in the world. Like, you

547
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,360
Speaker 2: just gotta come after these guys.

548
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 1: I am on the train of Jerry Similia is still good,

549
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 1: and yeah, I know you were on the train of

550
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 1: I thought that he looked fine, like he's going to

551
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,439
Speaker 1: walk a guy or two, and I agree, reliever walks

552
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 1: gotta be possibly the most frustrating thing. But he also

553
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 1: got screwed with like the little chopper over his head.

554
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 1: He got screwed with the little blop by Reese Hoskins.

555
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,119
Speaker 1: I think there was one more like little dank he

556
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 1: hit and there where it was like, dude, like and

557
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 1: it sucks because you're gonna look at the box sport

558
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the day and go. He had

559
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,919
Speaker 1: a horrible outing, but really, if you break down, he

560
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 1: had three, three or four outcomes that should have been out,

561
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 1: but they found this hole where it wasn't. So I

562
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not upset with Familia. I still think

563
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 1: he's good. I still think his stuff is so sick

564
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:17,360
Speaker 1: that it's just.

565
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 2: Like you're you're kind of like familiar. How I am

566
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 2: with Castro where I'll trust Castro a little bit more

567
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 2: than I probably should because I see a stuff I'm like,

568
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:23,880
Speaker 2: that's good.

569
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 1: Why aren't you good? Just be good, just keep trying

570
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 1: to be good. I just like Castro has the v

571
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,959
Speaker 1: lo over familiar where I think like Familia definitely has.

572
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 1: Like when that sinker's moving, like that's one of the

573
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 1: nastiest of that game because it's dropping about twelve inches

574
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 1: and coming in ninety seven, Like who hits that? Nobody?

575
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 1: But when he's off, he's pretty horrible. I thought he

576
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 1: was fine for start for game number one again seven days,

577
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 1: eight days rest, not throwing, So yeah, I thought he was.

578
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 2: And also it was very frustrating that DS kept getting

579
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 2: up and down and not coming in the game. Like

580
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 2: at that point you bring the guy in the game.

581
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 2: Like he also hasn't pitched in ten days and he

582
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 2: didn't get any work today. So now we're three game,

583
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 2: three days into the season. He hasn't at work. It's

584
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 2: gonna be ice cold when he comes into tomorrow and whatever.

585
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: Has to throw tomorrow, no matter what. I don't care what. Yeah,

586
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: I don't have to throw.

587
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 2: I don't care if it's fourteen to one in any direction.

588
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 2: Has to give an inning, yeah, because we have especially

589
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 2: went off to Yeah.

590
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like he's got to get an ending. Who

591
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 1: are some other guys that haven't thrown yet? Because someone

592
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 1: hasn't thrown yet, because someone hasn't thrown, But.

593
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 2: Whenever we want him to, I'm sure they're going to

594
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 2: bring up this guy, you know, one of these I

595
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 2: think he's gonna be.

596
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 1: The first guy who gets a call.

597
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, the only guys who haven't thrown yet are

598
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 2: Gazemin and Dias, and for completely opposite reasons.

599
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, those guys I think are probably locks to throw

600
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: tomorrow considering what's been going on. And I mean, Diaz

601
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 1: literally has to pitch tomorrow, has.

602
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 2: To Did you know Miguel Castro was six to seven?

603
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: I did not, And that's shocking news. It's a sneaky

604
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: six seven. That is a man who looks six foot three,

605
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,959
Speaker 1: and she's just like, hey, he's lak he throws hard. Yeah, yeah, hit.

606
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 2: If you ask me, are Miguel Castro and you're familiar

607
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 2: the same height, I would say one hundred percent?

608
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and familiar is pretty large guy. And yeah, Migaul

609
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: Castro towers over him.

610
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: Apparently at six, Familia has thirty pounds on him and

611
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 2: he's four inches. Sure, that's crazy, it's crazy.

612
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 1: And then I mean game one or Game two, I

613
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 1: should say the other really good thing came from the

614
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: offensive side because pethe looking really good at the plate.

615
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: Pete really good. Everything that we were worried about last

616
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 1: year that came to Fruition is completely it seems to

617
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: seemingly be gone right now. He's patient again. And I

618
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: think they even talked about Chili. Davis mentioned that Pete

619
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: last year was over compensating for what he thought opponents

620
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: were going to pitch to him. So when he did

621
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: see a pitch that he thought like, he was very

622
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: much geared up for like the curveballs to be coming

623
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: and the sliders and the changeups, so that when he

624
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: did see a fastball, he was just straight up not ready.

625
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 1: And then when he did see the curveball slider, he thought, well,

626
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: these are gonna be the only chances I have to

627
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 1: hit because these are the pitches that they're throwing. I

628
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: know it's coming, I have to swing, which is such

629
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: a Pedalons way of thinking. I can see it.

630
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 2: That's anxiety personified on a baseball field.

631
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: And it's like it's not even like the bad anxiety,

632
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: because like he still had a pretty decent year considering, Yeah,

633
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 1: it was great, but it's so good to know that,

634
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: like Chili like knew it, new was happening. He was like,

635
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: we're good, We're gonna fix it.

636
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: And his first at bad when he went with a

637
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: fastball and put it the other way for a hit.

638
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: How Rose was going ballistic.

639
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: He was like, you'll love to see that out of Pete.

640
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: That's a good piece of hitting from the young man.

641
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 2: That's the kind of thing that can really bring his

642
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: batting average up but make him such a great player.

643
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: I know he is. Or even like Game one where

644
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: in the last inning got us up off our feet

645
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: when he hit the right field, like that was so

646
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: really well hit ball, And that's the kind of stuff

647
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: when you see Pee Alnso's playing well. He's taking the

648
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: ball to right field his ticket, it's right driving it,

649
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: and that's like he'll he'll turn on the ball inside.

650
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: He's taking the right field. That's when he's comfortable, is

651
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: when he's reacting to the pitches and going with it.

652
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: And we've been seeing that a lot from him. Tom

653
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: Smith has looked really good still, and I mean.

654
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 2: I was so happy that Dom got on the board

655
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: with a dinger yesterday because I was a little bit

656
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 2: nervous that not playing Game one could kind of get

657
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 2: him in his own head because he again he wears

658
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 2: everything on his sleeve like that. He's that kind of player,

659
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 2: which is great. I love that he's so like vivacious.

660
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: And likes.

661
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: They It is fine, but like it was just very

662
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 2: happy to see him like take a bunch of good

663
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 2: at bats and just like feel like he was in control.

664
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Speaker 1: You know, he looks good. I think Neimo looks really

665
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: good at the plate. I think Luke looks great. He

666
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 1: just gets on there. Did he walking like four of

667
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: his first nine play crazy to It's not like he does.

668
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: It's like, I mean to move to Game three. The

669
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: two hits today, we're ridiculous. It's a little ridiculous. Now.

670
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: I didn't see as much of the game as you

671
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: because I was going to get a COVID test so

672
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: that I could go to the game on Saturday. But

673
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: it sounds like I am pretty lucky that I didn't

674
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: watch mostly.

675
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, today's game was butt cheeks, pure butt cheeks.

676
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: Again.

677
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: You don't go into Aaron Oli verus David Peterson with

678
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: tons of confidence, but the Phillies jumped all over Peterson early.

679
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: They seem just like very ready for everything he had coming.

680
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: Do you remember the movie with a I think it's

681
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 2: called Rookie of the Year with Henry Bogar, the kid

682
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 2: and the Cubs kid who falls down. He like starts

683
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: throw one hundred miles an hour. Do you remember when

684
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 2: he starts like lobbing balls in the end of it

685
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 2: to finish the movie. That and that big meaty guy

686
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: in the Mets is like, I'm trying to hit the

687
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 2: home run. That's what like Reese, Hoskins and Harper looks like.

688
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: In the first inning, I was likely shit, guys.

689
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: You're so ready. If you don't know, if you noticed

690
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: when Peterson was thrown in the first sitting too, it

691
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: was just I know he doesn't He's a soft tossing guy,

692
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 1: and his best stuff is gonna be arm side, so

693
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: to write, it's gonna be away. But everything was in

694
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: one section of the zone. It was middle away to

695
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 1: a righty, middle into a lefty. You can't live in

696
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 1: one area. You can't live in one area. You gotta

697
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: sprinkle in a little something here. You gotta come especially

698
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: on the righty, You've got to come inside. And with

699
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: like two strikes, he was just leaving two good of

700
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: pitches out on the zone, like he was getting ahead

701
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: in the count too, That's what's annoying.

702
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: And Peterson, also, as good as he was last year,

703
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: struggled with this Phillies lineup. Like over his career, he's

704
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: thrown six innings against the Phillies and given up eleven

705
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 2: earned He's thrown forty seven and two thirds against the

706
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 2: rest of the league and only giving up fourteen earn runs.

707
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: Do you, because I was talking about this with my dad,

708
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: do you think that, especially with the Phillies lineup? And

709
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 1: I know Bryce Harper is there a big left indeed,

710
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: but they really are a right handed heavy lineup that

711
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: does feast on left handed pitching. Let's be honest. Would

712
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: you have gone with Taiwan Walker Game three and given

713
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: Peterson home opener.

714
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: Or I probably would say yes.

715
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: But for some the that's.

716
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: They wanted to move Peter snuck because I think they

717
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: wanted more of a pitcher the home opener. Like as

718
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: weird as that, they said they wanted to split the lefties,

719
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 2: but that wasn't true because Lukes's not even making the start,

720
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: like going with four man rotation right now, but it

721
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: seems like based on that, the way they organize the

722
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: rotation especially with all the off days.

723
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: It wasn't like rest for Taiwan Walker.

724
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: It felt like they wanted a better pitcher in city field,

725
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: which I get that, but I don't know as a

726
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: serious Yeah, so.

727
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: Like I mean, Tymon walkerk hass started and it could

728
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: have been the exact same way. So it's and Peterson did.

729
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: He did settle down nicely after that those first few innings,

730
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: Like the fact that they only ended up with four

731
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: runs with him on the mound was shocking after the

732
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: way the game began, and he he cruised a little

733
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 2: bit again. He threw I think was four innx four

734
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: runs or maybe five innx four runs, but like, I

735
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm not gonna hold that like incredibly again

736
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 2: it Yeah, it ended up coming to with what's David

737
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 2: Peterson anyway?

738
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it ended up coming down to five

739
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: and six because of Barnes coming in and giving up

740
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: the jack.

741
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the inherited, which is unfortunate, But what like

742
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: when that when Barnes walked in the game. Ron Ronnie

743
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: is like j t Rouemuta, loves to jump on first pitch, fastballs,

744
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: fastball hitter.

745
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: He's done this the relievers before the entire Phillies Dug

746
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: guy was up.

747
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: They were like shouting, like first pitch, first pitch, holding

748
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: up Once it was like, why is Jacob Barnes the

749
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 2: only guy who doesn't know this?

750
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? I heard about that, and I was like, well,

751
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: when you think about it too, when you break it down,

752
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 1: especially with how many days off he had, and like,

753
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: you just want to come and throw a pitch right,

754
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: like just.

755
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: Gidding, you probably throw a strike two men on and

756
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: Jo jumped jumped on it.

757
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: I mean like I, yeah, pH punched the Mets in

758
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: the face and the Mets kind of got caught like, oh,

759
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was coming, which is especially like

760
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: after that Jacob Barnes home run. That's basically what it

761
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: felt like. We just got socked in the face. That

762
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: bomb home run felt like that too. That was a nuke. Yeah.

763
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: Bob's a good hitter, man, He's so good. He's awesome.

764
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: He's so good, big, good baseball player. And now the

765
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: transition to another good hitter. Why on God's Green Earth

766
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: was Jeff McNeil on the bench with Aaron Nola on

767
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: the mound, Like.

768
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: You have to figure with Noel Nolan. He routinely kills

769
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: the Mets.

770
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: He didn't have his good stuff today, Like he guthered

771
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: four innings, which is hysterical to say that Aaron Nola

772
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: guthered four innings with a four run lead. And to say,

773
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe McNeil walked into row host off

774
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 2: this morning. Maybe he has his stomach bug, maybe his

775
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: finger hurt. I don't know what happened behind the scenes.

776
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: But to say that we're giving Jeff McNeil an off

777
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: day when he put like five he put four balls

778
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: in play over the last two games, like one hundred

779
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: miles an hour that all went for outs, and like

780
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: he's his attitude starting to build, like you gotta get

781
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: that guy in the lineup?

782
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: What the like weirdly like I agree with you, like

783
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: he has to play. I didn't like the decision weirdly enough,

784
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: you know. Of course, VR went three for five today

785
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: with the trip. Yeah, he was a home rule again

786
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: the cycle or whatever.

787
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: He was true, but all three of those hits came

788
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: when the games are the other and then he had

789
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: two at bats early in the game with men on

790
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: and he'd do anything again. And also the Mets big

791
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: problem with this whole thing, which kind of sucks is

792
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: his runs and scoring position shit, which screwed them last year.

793
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: There's six for twenty eight in the series runs and

794
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: scoring position as a team with this many good hitters,

795
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: that's a statistical anomaly that's just unlikely, and like it's

796
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: crazy that it keeps happening. And there have been balls

797
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: that have been put into play hard, they're just not finding

798
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 2: they're not finding the ground.

799
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: The holes. And like we had, especially today, like some

800
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: really bad at bats with runners and scoring position. There's

801
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: just like a lot of I don't want to say,

802
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: or patients too much patience almost we were being really

803
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: like non aggressive. What's the word, what's the word for you?

804
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: Not aggressive? Passive, passive. We're being very passive. We weren't

805
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: trying to beat the Phillies. It seemed like we were

806
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: waiting for something to come to us.

807
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, my dad actually thought, he's like, all these guys

808
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: just want to do is take walks. Yeah, I was,

809
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: I kind of agree with you. There was two at

810
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: bats that stuck out to me that were not good.

811
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: There was a dome at bat in like the third

812
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: of the fourth, but Nola was on the ropes and

813
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: it was for to one they were making a move

814
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 2: and Nola put one like up and into him, and

815
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: Dom like dropped his bat and he like sauntered around

816
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: the box and like stared Nola down.

817
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: Oh I heard about that, Yeah.

818
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: And Nola got back on the rubber instantly, and Dom

819
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: took about ten full second. It's like just like Glove's

820
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: hanging out stretching looking at him. Then stepped in and

821
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: Nola just there room a change up right down the middle,

822
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: and he swung directly through it and then threw the

823
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: exact same pitch but six inches lower, and he stream

824
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: was struck out ten seconds later.

825
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: It's like, what's the freak?

826
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: And then there was a four the wet bat after

827
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: Lindor got hit by a pitch and the bases were

828
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: loaded with two outs and it was still Nola and the.

829
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: Game was still within reach.

830
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: And like I thought he was passive earlier in the

831
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: game and actually tweeted about it, and then this that

832
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: bad He was just flailing at bad pitches. Look, he

833
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 2: doesn't look comfortable right now.

834
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: He looked pretty horrible at the plate. And you know

835
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: he's really bad too when he's just rolling over outside pitches,

836
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: because when he's good again, just like along flicking that

837
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: shit to left field, and he is getting hits like

838
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: it's nothing, hitting balls out to left field, like he's

839
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: got that kind of talent. And he's just been rolling

840
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: over everything, it feels like. And I don't know, maybe

841
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm thinking too much into it. Again, it's three games.

842
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: Four is gonna be fine. I'm not worried about him.

843
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: Of coursefour though someone brought up the stat in Twitter.

844
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: He was horrific last year in the first three games.

845
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look, I'm just something to keep in the

846
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: back of our head. I think Knfred he's got a contract.

847
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: Ye're coming up here. He's a Boris' client. He knows

848
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: that he's got some big money here. Is this a

849
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: guy that we're trying to see maybe go away from

850
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: going opposite field to hitting three ten? Yeah, Hower hitter

851
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: to hit home runs because that's what's gonna get him paid.

852
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,239
Speaker 1: I mean, is that what we're gonna be seen? Well?

853
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: I mean we could four though the idea could four

854
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: though has ever been a three hundred hitters of fallacy?

855
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: He's a two to fifty nine career hither Like this

856
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: guy at his best last year again was saying three twenty,

857
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,959
Speaker 2: but that was in only sixty games. Like at his

858
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: what he is probably a two seventy hitter, Like if

859
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: everything's going right and he doesn't get injured and nothing

860
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 2: like nothing, there's nothing else weird happening.

861
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: I think we're looking into it definitely one hundred percent,

862
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: like trying to figure out a reason why one of

863
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: our best players had such a horrible series and why

864
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: he was just doing things that we don't normally see

865
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: him do. So we're trying to make probably something out

866
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,959
Speaker 1: of nothing. But I think it is something to keep

867
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: an eye out for, is what his opposite field numbers

868
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: are gonna be like as the year go on, because

869
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he hit a ball to opposite

870
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: field that all this series and he'll at least hit

871
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: into an out or two in a series. He is

872
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: one base hit to left field this year. Okay, Like

873
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: you said six for twenty eight in scoring position, I

874
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: mean you had. Here's what I think you can take

875
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: a positive out of this, you can spin it. We

876
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: had twenty eight at bats with runners in scoring position

877
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: in three games. I mean that is so fucking insane.

878
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: That's ten games.

879
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, any game they left I think fourteen men

880
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: on base today, and it was that's the most they've

881
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: left on the last two years.

882
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: Fourteen crazy, insane, crazy and imagine and it was mostly

883
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: in the first five minutes. And I was gonna say,

884
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: and I'd imagine I would say probably six of those

885
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: were runners in scoring position. If we could probably figure

886
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: out that's that they had Nola on the ropes all day.

887
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: He did not look sucked, he did not look he

888
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: looked bad.

889
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: And if I remember correctly, I think his last few

890
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: starts against the Mets, he hasn't been sharped. And that's

891
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,719
Speaker 1: have been getting to aim a little bit more recently. Bullpen.

892
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: Jacob Barnes, I get it, has a pitchion a while. Yeah,

893
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: I've never.

894
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: Also he's also just not very good. Well, yeah, you

895
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: can't rely on Jacob Barnes to get your critical outs.

896
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: Like that's just not that's not a world that we

897
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: should be living in, Like realistically, within a month, that's

898
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: gonna be a Sam mc williams's role. He's gonna be

899
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: part of the beat team Bullpen. He's gonna be the

900
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: midning guy who you're gonna hope tom in and be

901
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: like a fireman kind of thing.

902
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

903
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: I can't trust Jacob Barnes to get the mess. Today

904
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: were one for twelveth runs scoring position alone. Today they

905
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: were one for twelve, vr Oh for two, Mchano for one,

906
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 2: Domo for one, can four.

907
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: Though Oh for four.

908
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: He came up four times a men's scoring position, of course,

909
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: because Nimo's on base every single time he comes to

910
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: the plate.

911
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: I said before.

912
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: McWilliams is gonna be up with this team soon. He's

913
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: gonna make an impact. And I think you're gonna see

914
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: r D's Viscaino by next week, just because this bullpen's

915
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: already god to works. We're gonna start using the alternate site,

916
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,479
Speaker 2: moving guys in and out. And he actually looked decent

917
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 2: in the spring because last nime was back to where

918
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 2: it was pre Tommy John or Rotaylor Cuff with ever

919
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: surgery he had. Also, I didn't like to say that

920
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 2: Giormy made another error that's not that.

921
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: Cool throwing, which is weird too because yes, never but

922
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: it seems like right.

923
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: Yes, because he's just the opposite side of the diamond,

924
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 2: like he's mostly played short and second he played a little.

925
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: Bit there last year, but not a ton. Yeah, No,

926
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: didn't didn't look great defensively, he did have a good

927
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 1: game with the plate. He's still hitt in, which go figure,

928
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: go figure. Thensation is concerned about his fielding and not

929
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: his bat, which I think. I mean three times, do

930
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: I have any news on JD. I know it's like

931
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: a contusion, but he have to miss any more time

932
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: or how how weird.

933
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 2: Is it that the Mets starting third baseman like possibly

934
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: broke his hand and it's like the eighteenth thing we're

935
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: talking about?

936
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy, right, that's how That's how much was going

937
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: on in these games. Yeah, I think if we're gonna

938
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: we didn't. We haven't even talked about Francisco Lindor.

939
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah no, I mean I don't know

940
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: what's even to talk about. That play, that play yesterday

941
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: that realm to beat out the ground ball.

942
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: I was upset. Yeah, no, that was like I've been

943
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: cutting him a little bit of slack first play because

944
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: I got the play. Hasn't be hitting much. He's been walking,

945
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: which is good and that's not typically he's but he's.

946
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: Also he's been into those at bats, like he's been

947
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: very close and he's been he's been ripping balls.

948
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: Yes, and I think like there's gonna be a little

949
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: bit of a like little grace period with him, especially,

950
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: Like I think the thing with real Muto now grants

951
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: that he could have scouted him and learned this by that,

952
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: but it seemed like he just kind of didn't realize

953
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: jat Ra Muto was that fast and that good of

954
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: an athlete, because how many times in his career has.

955
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 2: He legitimately He's never He's never seen a jitsy room

956
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: into scauting report. And also, like as great as Lindor

957
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: is and he's pretty great, he doesn't have a cannon

958
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: like this. He doesn't have a rifle attached to his

959
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: right arm like like some other shortstops in the league too,

960
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: Like he doesn't have a career arm. He has the range,

961
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 2: some of the best range in the entire league, but

962
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: he just doesn't have that, Like, yeah, it's so nice,

963
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 2: so nice to see a real smooth shortstop out there

964
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: and say that was big for Stroman yesterday because he

965
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 2: did not once. He got into trouble a few times,

966
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: but there there were men on more often than not,

967
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 2: and I think that mess turn at least two double

968
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: plays up the middle, which was dope.

969
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: And like I think that was a big thing we

970
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: saw last year too, and go figure o. I'm gonna

971
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: mention Rick Porcello in a podcast. But when they were

972
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: doing like the G unit free agent, Yes, the G

973
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: unit up the middle him and as in Giorme, and

974
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: they had that game against the Nationals where he pitched

975
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 1: great and just like ground ball, automatic out, And that's

976
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: kind of stuff we need to see when Struman's on

977
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: the mound, is the best defense behind him?

978
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 2: For sure, definitely, And you would think that the same

979
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: thing with Peterson today. But VR is not a very

980
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: good fielder and he was in there for there has

981
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: to be something else.

982
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: You can't just be getting a day off like that's insane,

983
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: your own nola or something. I mean, like he would

984
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: have sited him a few times over the last couple

985
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: of years.

986
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: I mean definitely, But I mean just as much as

987
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: it's not less than McNeil would have.

988
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: Played him, I guess that's also true, Like how much

989
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: better than McNeil's gonna be a hitting against anybody when

990
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: McNeil's numbers are just far better across the board.

991
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a better baseball player, but also it's a

992
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: little interesting that we've already had this situation come up

993
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: twice in three games with Vr and Polar, where a

994
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: few weeks ago, we were very excited that the Mets

995
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 2: got some real bench depth. But when you sign veterans

996
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: like that, they'll expect to play. These guys are major

997
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: league baseball players, like we said, like we were happy about,

998
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: but you can't just let these major league baseball players

999
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 2: rot on the bench for an entire season.

1000
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: Like these guys are expecting at bats, that's what happens.

1001
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: And you hope that there's no organizational pressure to get

1002
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: these guys at bats. But it seems like after two

1003
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: games that someone's very high in each of them.

1004
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, like Polar also came off the bench

1005
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: right a couple or in Game two, I think he

1006
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: got in that bat, and Lar has gotten a couple

1007
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: at bats. And I don't know if I like. I

1008
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: like them getting the amount of at bats that a

1009
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: normal bench piece would get. I don't like them being

1010
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: a platoon, which is what we're kind of seeing right now. Yeah.

1011
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: No, I thought we both thought, we talked about this,

1012
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,959
Speaker 2: that we're gonna go into this season where like we're

1013
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: gonna have a consistent lineup day in and day out.

1014
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: Left these right, these didn't really seem to matter. But

1015
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: and Roja has struggled this last year. It seems like

1016
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: there's been a lot of like twists and turns and

1017
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: like tinkering, which I don't think is very good for

1018
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: a young team.

1019
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: I hate, yeah, so much, I hate so much. I

1020
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: hate a Rods talked about this.

1021
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: Frank Thomas has two where like when you're a young player,

1022
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: you want to be able to go to the ballpark

1023
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 2: and not really think about anything because if you're like

1024
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: you're nervous, you're trying to learn, like everything is more

1025
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 2: difficult the less time you've been in the league. So

1026
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 2: looking at the lineup card, not being confident or even

1027
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: aware where you're gonna be or if you're gonna be

1028
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: laying or not, that's difficult. It adds a layer of

1029
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: stress that makes that could hurt production.

1030
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I really wish that they would have their

1031
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: lineup which is what we saw game two and go

1032
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 1: figure they won just coincidence, I'm sure, but have that

1033
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: and every three or four days maybe you start to

1034
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: look into what it's gonna be.

1035
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: But it's you want to see polar or VR like

1036
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 2: once a week as like, yeah, and Polar will get

1037
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: some defensive replacement innings. Of course they'll both pinch hit

1038
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: here and there.

1039
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: But and think about this, like, in the first three

1040
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: games of our season, we've seen the B line up

1041
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: more than the A. That shouldn't happen.

1042
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: No, literally, Yeah, there's like for Jeff McNeil and Dominic

1043
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 2: Smith to be in the same lineup once in three games.

1044
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: That's that's mismanagement.

1045
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's a that's a poor job. When you

1046
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: break it down like that, simply that just that that

1047
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 1: simply cannot happen. That can't. No, simply that cannot happen.

1048
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: It can't.

1049
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: Extenuating circumstances are not like if nothing is wrong with

1050
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 2: either of those.

1051
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 1: Two guys, Like that's ridiculous. And it's not game ninety

1052
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: five for the season. It's game No.

1053
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: One in three And it's not like our sixth game

1054
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 2: in a row in one hundred degrees with eighty five

1055
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 2: percent humidity, Like there's nose. The guys aren't These guys

1056
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: aren't leaguered. We have a day off on Friday, I know,

1057
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 2: like there should be jacked up. It's a rubber game today.

1058
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 2: Day game, like, come on.

1059
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: So, I mean, I think that's probably all we need

1060
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: to talk about the Phillies. There was just guess, there

1061
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 1: was not a lot of great There were some good stuff.

1062
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: There's some stuff that you can be excited about. But

1063
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: I think overall is a disappointing series, and I think

1064
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: that's probably sure the best way to leave it is

1065
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: just disappointment. Phillies. I don't really think are I'm not

1066
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: scared of the Phillies still, I'm gonna say that I

1067
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: don't care because I really do think everything is gonna

1068
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: even out as the season goes on. But they came

1069
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: up and they punched us right in the face, and

1070
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: we just took it. We just took it and had

1071
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: no answer. We didn't throw back.

1072
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 2: Bottom line is we walked up there against the hot

1073
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: team and we weren't ready to like, we weren't ready

1074
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: to play.

1075
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: But this now leads us into our next series, which

1076
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: of course we were going to talk about going up

1077
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: against the Marlins, who have not looked good. They have looked,

1078
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: like you said last week, anemic at the plate.

1079
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: Yes, and they're young. Pitching is very good, yeah, but

1080
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: they've also played all of their games at home and

1081
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: that park is just you can't hit there, like it's impossible.

1082
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: Like I'm they're gonna get a little bit of a

1083
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: boost just leaving hitting the road a little bit and

1084
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 2: coming to a new place. But like the young pitching

1085
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 2: is look good, but we're gonna we're gonna miss Pablo Lopez.

1086
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna miss Sandy Alcuintara unless he pitches

1087
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: on short rests because they had The Marlins have not

1088
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 2: named a starter yet for Tomorrow or for Sunday. The

1089
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 2: only star there that's set on the schedule is Trevor

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Speaker 2: Rodgers on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Really, they don't have one for tomorrow, No, they don't.

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be Nick Neither because they just

1093
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 2: called him up when I think they put Eliezer in

1094
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: the DL and he's a starter, but there's no way

1095
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 2: he stretched out like you're probably gonna see a combination

1096
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: of Ross dett Weiler, Adam Simber, John Curtis, which these

1097
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: are all names actually like excite Mets fans as well

1098
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 2: as Mets hithers.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna make any predictions for this series because

1100
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 1: there's just there's no reason to break down what games

1101
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: we should win and what we shouldn't. But all we

1102
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: know is that this kind of baseball we played against

1103
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: the Phillies can't happen, and I don't expect it to continue.

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00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: I really do think a lot of it has to

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00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: do with the long break and the layoff, and it's

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00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: tough to have guys geared up and ready for the

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00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: season and then all of a sudden, four days go

1108
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: buy and you don't play. So yeah, it's weird. And

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00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: Mets were one of the few teams too that weirdly

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00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: did this, but they ended like spring training come somewhat early,

1111
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: where I saw teams still playing some spring training games

1112
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 1: in their spring training ballpark or even at their home ballpark,

1113
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: which I know the Mets can't do because it's cold.

1114
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: But even then, like the Mets ended games, I feel

1115
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: like three days before some other teams, and then they

1116
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: also had that four day break where they didn't play

1117
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: any games against the Nationals. You have a week of

1118
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: baseball off, it's going to take a little bit time

1119
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: for them to get back into the groove of things.

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Speaker 2: It's not yeah, no, that's bad, that's bad. Fear of timing.

1121
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: I figured that two games against Matt Moore and Chase

1122
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: Anderson would even that out. But whatever that's it sometimes

1123
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 2: doesn't work.

1124
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: The excuse is no longer there because we've now played

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00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: three games, We've faced a really good pitcher in Aaron Nola,

1126
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: wake up, Sejs Alvarado. We've seen we've seen arms. Now

1127
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: there's no more excuse the Marlins come around. You simply

1128
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 1: have to smack the Marlins around. You have to take

1129
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: two of three from down series.

1130
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 2: You can't be a playoff team in the National League

1131
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 2: East if you don't smack the Marlins around. Like that

1132
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 2: is a that has been a rule for years now,

1133
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 2: Like you have to dominate this team if you want

1134
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: to go far.

1135
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: And that was even like the separating factor between a

1136
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: lot of teams last year was like the Marlins just

1137
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: beat the Phillies more last year and that's what ended

1138
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: up getting them ahead of them twenty nineteen.

1139
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 2: That was huge that that series that the Mets got

1140
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: swept by the Marlins in Miami, it felt like the

1141
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: entire season ended. Oh I was I remember, I was

1142
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 2: in May.

1143
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: It was in Baltimore. I just graduated college and I

1144
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: was listening to on the radio and I was like,

1145
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: I have like another three hours to go home. Like

1146
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to listen to this, Like the manager

1147
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: at the time, we don't even have to talk about him.

1148
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: It was just so bad. That's old Mets though, new

1149
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: Mets man. I just I've been a loing this. It's

1150
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: been allowed this, this podcast, a lot of this, a

1151
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: lot of like we have the lineup tomorrow's home opening day.

1152
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: If we do not see the A lineup tomorrow going

1153
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: up against Nick Nider or whoever, it's gonna be what

1154
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: are we doing at this point? And I can't even

1155
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: believe that this is a conversation that we're having to

1156
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: have and like have some sort of passion behind it,

1157
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: like me going, what are we doing? Three games of

1158
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: the season. But it's starting to feel like there's a

1159
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: way where we might see Polar or VR start tomorrow.

1160
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: I mean, if that Wiler's on the hill, if he's

1161
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: the opener, two winning opener as a lefty, you never know.

1162
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: There's no reason overreactions yet there's This is still a

1163
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: very good baseball team, and I think everybody knows that.

1164
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: And I think the reason we're getting the overreactions is

1165
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: because we know this team is good and we have

1166
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: high expectations and they just simply played like shit this

1167
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: these last three games. There's no other way around it,

1168
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: for sure, So I think that's why we're seeing a

1169
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: lot of overreactions, and I get it, but we gotta

1170
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: take a deep breath.

1171
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 2: Three games in one one.

1172
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Speaker 1: Fifty nine left a lot of season, a lot of baseball,

1173
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: and this team is only gonna be getting stronger as

1174
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: the years go or as the year goes on and

1175
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: we start to get some more guys back and we

1176
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: start to get into a groove of things, and we

1177
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: know who's gonna be in the spots every single day.

1178
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: We know what guys are gonna be our eighth, our seventh.

1179
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: We're not pitching Matansas the rest of the year, I

1180
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: don't think. So we don't have to worry about that.

1181
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna be okay. It's really gonna be okay. I'm

1182
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: not worried yet. It was frustrating. You can be frustrated

1183
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: without doubt.

1184
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: Literally, we could be back here on Sunday talking to

1185
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 2: you guys, and the Mets can be four and two

1186
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: and we'll be dancing.

1187
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: Yes, and we'll be like here we go, We're back.

1188
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: Holy craft.

1189
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 2: Metsu twenty seven runs in three games.

1190
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: There was a way they could have done it. Last

1191
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: series six runers with scoring position and by the four

1192
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: times today four times. Keep this in mind. This is

1193
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: also a weird thing to think about that they had

1194
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: twenty eight plate appearances or at bats with runners in

1195
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: scoring position, and that includes twenty two outs, So that

1196
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: means that there was innings that ended with runners in

1197
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: scoring position. You could have kept going tons, so they

1198
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: had opportunity to score so many runs they didn't. Disappointing weekend. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm okay, though, I'm okay. I think talking through five

1200
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: makes it feel better a little bit.

1201
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was good therapy for I think the both

1202
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: of us and.

1203
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: Hopefully all of our listeners out there. You guys can

1204
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: listen to us on Spotify, Apple podcast, Google YouTube. Always

1205
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: doing the plugs on here, James. I think as long

1206
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: as unless you've got something else to talk about here,

1207
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: I think that's probably gonna wrap it up for today. Yeah,

1208
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: I'm good man. I get to tomorrow.

1209
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're going to home opener tomorrow, ight, Yep,

1210
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: I'll be a city field tomorrow over the moon. Excited

1211
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: apps like Thrilled, busting out, I might even join you

1212
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: there on Saturday. Who knows.

1213
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, James will be there tomorrow. I'll be there

1214
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: on Saturday with some friends and I don't know. Maybe

1215
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: I'll go Sunday too. Why not? I got nothing else too.

1216
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: If my COVID test comes back and I can use

1217
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: it for the Sunday game too, sure I'm going. Why not.

1218
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take advantage of all these days that I

1219
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 1: get for this COVID test negative, because oh my god,

1220
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to keep going to City, MD every

1221
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: like three or four days. I just can't be asked.

1222
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: So I think that's where're gonna wrap it up. Guys,

1223
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: make sure you follow us on all our social media

1224
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,479
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1225
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: up on Instagram, and the mess Up Podcast on YouTube.

1226
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: You can listen to us on Apple podcasts, Spotify, and

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Speaker 1: Google podcasts. My name's Mark Draftneckmark on Twitter. We got

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Speaker 1: James Ciano Jeter had no range. Thank you guys so

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Speaker 1: much for watching, Thank you so much for listening, and

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Speaker 1: we'll catch you all next time on the next episode

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Speaker 1: of the mets Up Podcast. Peace Peace out,