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Speaker 1: This is one Bills Live presented by Kaleida Health. Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's going on people? It's a Thursday and a snowy

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Speaker 1: one here in Western New York. Chris Brown, Steve Caster

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Speaker 1: with you players on the practice field, but indoors as

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Speaker 1: being outside really doesn't have any significance this week with

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Speaker 1: the Bills playing in Sofi Stadium, covered but open air.

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Speaker 2: It really is a Brella stadium.

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Speaker 1: It's an umbrella stadium. Yeah, and the openings are limited.

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Speaker 1: They're at the very top. It's a translucent roof.

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Speaker 2: It's like for the most part, it's like being one

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it very much is unless you are in the

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Speaker 1: press box that is climate controlled. The broadcast booths are

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Speaker 1: not because they are open, right. Press box is enclosed,

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Speaker 1: so it's AC. That's probably the only climate control, along

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Speaker 1: with probably the sweets I would guess are AC.

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Speaker 2: I imagine there's some suites that are climate controlled.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so no need to practice outside in the elements

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Speaker 1: when you're playing indoors this week and next week. As

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Speaker 1: a matter of.

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Speaker 2: Fact, at Detroit, you are correct, sir.

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Speaker 1: So practicing inside is totally fine these next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: And that's what the Bills are doing today as they

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Speaker 1: are on the practice field as we speak, a mere

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Speaker 2: Only the side of the wall.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: So we'll we get practice updates to you as soon

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Speaker 1: as they are available. We can't give you the non

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Speaker 1: is closed. Those are the rules. We'll stick by them.

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Speaker 1: We'll get those to you as soon as we can.

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Speaker 1: Bills News of note, congratulations once again to one Dion Dawkins,

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Speaker 1: who is the Bill's nominee for the Walter Peyton Man

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Speaker 1: of the Year. The man is super busy in the

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Speaker 1: Western New York community through his Dion Streamers Foundation, does

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Speaker 1: a lot of good work and not surprised that he

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Speaker 1: is the nominee once again. He's been the nominee for

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Speaker 1: the Bills before, so we'll see if this is the

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Speaker 1: year that he gets the nod. Hopefully it is for

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Speaker 1: his sake. So you've got that going on, and like

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Speaker 1: I said, we'll get you the practice updates as soon

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Speaker 1: as the viewing portion of practice is over. How did

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Speaker 1: you make out with the snow last night. Got pounded

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Speaker 2: Early, plowing, the plowing, the drive.

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Speaker 1: Uh, I did the same. I got about six to

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Speaker 2: I got a little a little more than that little

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Speaker 2: You got more than closer to the eight. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're but I'm an e you're officials, I am yeah.

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Speaker 2: And uh heavy too heavy snow. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: It was a mess, still going like one to two

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was still coming down this morning. I got

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It took me about forty minutes to clear everything

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I've got to plow on a thing.

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Speaker 1: You're not in a position, Nan Taylor, I could see

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Speaker 1: If you had to be at work by seven, you

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Speaker 1: all things considered, But uh, we have to uh get

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Speaker 1: around the NFL. We'll get to the Bills practice updates

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Speaker 1: here shortly. But Around the NFL presented by co Lot

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Speaker 1: of Health, the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: And uh, I'm going to begin here with a couple

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Speaker 1: of items. Jaguars placed Trevor Lawrence on injured reserve, which

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Speaker 1: is likely going to end his season. Lawrence, who was

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Speaker 1: in the first half of the Jaguars game last week

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Speaker 1: against the Texans. He was the target of Texans linebacker

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Speaker 1: Aziz al Schier, who was suspended three games for hitting

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Speaker 1: you saw, but he appealed that suspension and it was upheld.

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Speaker 1: The league said, yeah, thanks for coming still three games. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll see in week seventeen. Actually we'll see you in

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Speaker 1: so he's got to still miss three games after that.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing how polarizing this play is. And I get

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Speaker 2: But you know, he's never been in the league where

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Speaker 2: I'm I get it, and I and he was trying

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Speaker 2: can say what you want about Trevor sliding late, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter feet first, and these off limits. You saw,

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Speaker 2: you saw he was going down and he just decided

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Speaker 1: That's kind of a big absence though. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: the defensive captain run calls the defense for the Texans.

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Speaker 1: He's out of lineup the next three weeks. They're fighting.

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Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a Bills fan, not a Texans fan,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, I do not care. I don't care.

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Speaker 2: You it's the rule. You knew, I mean you everybody

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Speaker 2: Dirty over aggressive.

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Speaker 2: I mean, guys don't like it. They they saw it

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Speaker 2: You cannot do it. You can't do it. You know it.

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Speaker 2: You knew it. When you did it, you didn't care.

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, this was interesting. Suspended wide receiver Deontay Johnson

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Speaker 1: quote Deontay's suspension stems from refusing to enter our game

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Speaker 1: the ravens December fifteenth game at the New York Giants.

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Speaker 1: Baltimore is currently on a buy as well. Refuse to

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Speaker 1: this one at you, Steve. Because of all the things

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Speaker 1: that we've seen this season. You tell me what's worse.

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Speaker 1: Is it worse for Anthony Richardson to say, hey, I

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Speaker 1: Or is it worse for Deontay Johnson, a veteran player

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Speaker 2: You got to make a statement as an organization saying, listen,

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Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta suspend the guy. I get it.

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Speaker 2: It's a hard decision because it does cast a spotlight

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Speaker 1: But the exact conduct is specified in the statement. Refuse

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Speaker 2: Hey, if it's you're just you gotta live with it.

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Speaker 1: Everybody not what you want in the midst of a playoff.

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Speaker 1: It's not a division, it's not. But you don't need

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Speaker 2: Tell everybody.

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Speaker 2: Organizations know when to speak out and what to keep

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Speaker 1: To make a complete one eighty to the next item.

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Speaker 1: New York Jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers sent a strong message

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: I did not.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think Aaron Rodgers has falling off a cliff.

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Speaker 2: For that reason, it is a question as to what

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Speaker 1: Twelve starts three and nine, has completed sixty two and

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Speaker 2: It's not it's not elite like we've seen him because

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Speaker 2: Don't compare him to him. He's never gonna be the

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Speaker 2: And if he's if he doesn't measure up to Baker

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Speaker 2: He'll never He'll never measure up. None of us would.

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Speaker 2: So that's the that's the trap, the common trap that fans,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the Jets have that foresight. Maybe

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Speaker 1: He's serviceable.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly. He's an average and he's not gonna

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Speaker 1: It's a capable floor.

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Speaker 2: His arm is still live, he can still make the throws.

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Speaker 2: You're never gonna see show him anything he hasn't seen.

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Speaker 2: But you're gonna have to build it around him. Youre

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Speaker 1: Eric b Enemy, offensive coordinator for UCLA, has been let go.

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Speaker 1: He was with the Washington Commanders last year, but then

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Speaker 1: Ron Rivera's coaching staff was fired and he was in

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Speaker 1: that group. So he got his walking papers as well

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Speaker 1: and went to UCLA to help run their offense. But

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Speaker 1: they have mutually parted as he seeks to get back

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. And that's kind of where that is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. We've the last we heard from him

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Speaker 2: before he left Washington. It was before he was with

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Speaker 2: Kansas City and Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes and all those guys,

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Speaker 2: and has got a ring or two with those guys,

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Speaker 2: and he was a hot candidate for a head coaching

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Speaker 2: job in the NFL and it never came to fruition,

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Speaker 2: and the league got roasted for you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: for not putting the guy up and get him the

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Speaker 2: head coaching job or somebody hiring him and stuff. Nobody

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Speaker 2: would and now he's struggling to keep jobs. So there's

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Speaker 2: something in that, and you know.

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Speaker 1: It never became a head coach, even though he interviewed

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Speaker 1: a few places when he was still with the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see where Eric b Enemy falls next.

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Speaker 2: But since he left the Chiefs, it's been a rough

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Speaker 2: road for him the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Time for Bill's practice updates, presented by Leecom. You're a

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Speaker 1: Lake Erie of Osteopathic Medicine and the news is as follows.

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Speaker 1: Dalton Kincaid practicing again today. No red non contact jersey,

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Speaker 1: just regular jersey practicing. He was listed as limited yesterday.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if that designation changes when the Thursday injury

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Speaker 1: report comes out, but good to see him practicing for

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Speaker 1: a second straight day. Yesterday was his first day practicing

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Speaker 1: since he suffered the knee injury back in Week nine.

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Speaker 1: Taylor Rap and Keon Coleman both practicing as well, but

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Speaker 1: they are in red non contact jerseys. Coleman was listed

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Speaker 1: as a limited participant as was rap yesterday, and we'll

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Speaker 1: see what the news is on Quentin Morris, who was

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Speaker 1: also listed as a limited participant in the practice estimation yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Today more of a real practice, so we'll see what

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Speaker 1: the designations are when they come out later this afternoon

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Speaker 1: on the updated Thursday Injury Report. Topic of discussion for

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Speaker 1: you today concerned earns some of the season long achievements

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Speaker 1: of the Bills thus far. Let us know what you

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Speaker 1: think has been more impressive from the Bills this season.

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Speaker 1: Their offense scoring thirty points or more in six straight games,

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Speaker 1: or the defense having at least one takeaway in every

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Speaker 1: single game this season. Eight oh three five point fifty

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Speaker 1: won eighty eight five point fifty two five fifty those

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Speaker 1: the numbers. Get on board with us and join us.

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Speaker 1: We do have a full show again here today. Field Yates,

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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy expert and ESPN NFL insider going to join

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Speaker 1: us with his Week fourteen Ultimate Fantasy lineup. As for

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Speaker 1: some leagues, playoffs are getting rolling, so we'll have his

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Speaker 1: lineup for this week. See what it looks like for

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Speaker 1: daily Fantasy. Our number two, the Hall of Famer Thurman.

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Speaker 1: Thomas joins us. So we'll reconnect with Thurman, who's been

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Speaker 1: on a little bit of a hiatus. Be good to

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Speaker 1: get him back in studio, get his thoughts. James Cook

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Speaker 1: has been tearing it up and rolling up touchdowns left,

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Speaker 1: right and center, so be interesting to get Therm's perspective

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Speaker 1: on that. And Ray Davis as well, and Ty Johnson.

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Speaker 1: That three headed monster's been really pumping out the yards

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Speaker 1: and the scores four Buffalo, so be interesting to get

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Speaker 1: Thurman's perspective on that. I think he was at He

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Speaker 1: was at the game on Sunday, right, wasn't he?

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Speaker 2: Did you see him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought he was here too, but I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was there, he was there.

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Speaker 1: So we'll get his thoughts on that in our number two.

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Speaker 1: But in the meantime, what's more impressive for you Bill's

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Speaker 1: offense scoring thirty points or more in six straight games,

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Speaker 1: which is a street that's still alive right now, or

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Speaker 1: the defense having at least one takeaway in every game.

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Speaker 1: The Bills have had multiple takeaways in eight of their

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Speaker 1: twelve games, only four games have they had a single takeaway,

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Speaker 1: and at no point this season have the Bills had

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Speaker 1: a negative turnover differential in any game when it's anyway.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's a recipe for success.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gods.

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Speaker 2: I mean, teams dream of having a streak like that.

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Speaker 2: The hard part is what happens if it doesn't happen

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Speaker 2: one week, that's what you really worry about. But you know,

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Speaker 2: it's this team's chugging along, their offense is clicking, and

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Speaker 2: whether they get into a turnover laden game or not,

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Speaker 2: they're still hard to beat. Yeah, they're still really hard

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Speaker 2: to beat.

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Speaker 1: I would I would have to say, because look, the

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Speaker 1: thirty points are more. Thing is not just these last

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Speaker 1: six games. They've done it in nine games this season,

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Speaker 1: the last six in a row. But they've done it

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Speaker 1: nine of their twelve games already, and that is tied

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Speaker 1: a franchise record. Seventy five team with OJ did it

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Speaker 1: nine times, your ninety one team Steve did it nine times,

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Speaker 1: and then the twenty twenty and twenty twenty one Bills

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Speaker 1: all scored thirty points or more in nine games. Difference

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Speaker 1: is this Bills team has five games left to score more.

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Speaker 2: Right this they've only they have not scored thirty points.

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Speaker 2: They didn't do it in the Ravens game, the Texans game,

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Speaker 2: or the Jet game. Every other game this season, and

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Speaker 2: that was a three game stretch right there. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: that was kind of when they lost two games, lost

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Speaker 2: to Baltimore in the Houston game, and then right then

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Speaker 2: after they played the Jets, they started and now they

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Speaker 2: did score a lot of points early in the season,

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Speaker 2: but that's when they really started to like do it

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Speaker 2: with everybody. You know, Keon started playing well, they got

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Speaker 2: further down the line, Amari Cooper showed up, James Cook

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Speaker 2: started showing up, We started we found out about Ray

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Speaker 2: Davis and how good he was going to be. So,

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Speaker 2: you know, after that first month of the season month

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Speaker 2: and a half, the team really shifted gears. And that's

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Speaker 2: when they they they've been on a heater ever since. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and it's you can tell, you can kind of feel

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Speaker 2: you look back, you can kind of feel when this

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Speaker 2: this streak has started, not just the thirty points but

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Speaker 2: also the win streak. The man, they're hard to They're

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Speaker 2: hard to get your mind around. Who's gonna play well

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Speaker 2: for him? There's so many guys that have contributed in

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Speaker 2: so many different ways throughout the season. And then Curtis Samuel,

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Speaker 2: for goodness sake, was forgotten about in the first month

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Speaker 2: of the season. Then he came up knee in and

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, wow, look at that. He had

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Speaker 2: a couple of games. Then mac Collins had a couple

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Speaker 2: of games, then Keon had a couple of games. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's it's been really fun to watch and each of

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Speaker 2: those guys have had a huge hand in making sure

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Speaker 2: this team stays on the scoreboard. And then you don't

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Speaker 2: hear from him for a couple of weeks. But whenever

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Speaker 2: anybody has had the chance.

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Speaker 1: They take a turn, they do.

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Speaker 2: They take their turn, and it's, you know, it's off

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Speaker 2: to the races again. It's it's it's been a hard

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Speaker 2: I think for defense is a hard offense to get

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Speaker 2: your mind around. Who's it gonna be?

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Speaker 1: So you let us know what's more impressive. Bill's offense

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Speaker 1: scoring thirty points or more in six straight games or

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Speaker 1: the defense having at least one takeaway in every single

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Speaker 1: game this season. Gotta take a break when we come back.

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Speaker 1: Field Yates from ESPN going to join us with his

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Speaker 1: ultimate fantasy lineup for Week fourteen. Here on one Bills

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Speaker 1: Live presented by co Lo out of health.

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Speaker 6: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right back here on one Bills Live, and it's

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Speaker 1: time now for the ultimate Fantasy lineup. And you know

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Speaker 1: who presents that to us every week. It's ESPN NFL

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Speaker 1: Insider Fantasy Football analyst Field Yates, and it's all presented

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Speaker 1: in the NFL Insider and hope of you and host

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Speaker 1: of ESPN's Fantasy Focus Live.

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Speaker 7: Hey we're doing, Field, I'm doing great, chentlemen, good to

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Speaker 7: see you. As always, Bills are riding high right now.

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Speaker 7: Another big one this Sunday, another NFC West Divisional tilt.

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Speaker 7: But i gotta tell you, we got about three inches

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Speaker 7: of snow down here in Connecticut, and it made me

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Speaker 7: fain about last Sunday night. And I'm not so sure

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Speaker 7: that God has ever put a more perfect set of

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Speaker 7: environmental circumstances around the football game. As we saw it

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Speaker 7: was glorious. What a night it was up there in

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Speaker 7: Orchard Park.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got another fun eight to ten inches last night,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, that was like, yeah, there you go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean Sunday night was like a Norman Rockwell painting.

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Speaker 1: If a football game could be a Norman Rockwell painting,

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Speaker 1: that was it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's beautiful. So you feel every every week, every

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Speaker 2: week you come on and I was, it's always like

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Speaker 2: a little bit of an Easter egg when I open

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Speaker 2: up and I look at your the lineup. You know,

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Speaker 2: you know what's it gonna be. Who's going to surprise me?

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Speaker 8: And stuff?

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Speaker 2: Right right off the aid and O'Connell is your quarterback,

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Speaker 2: all right, you got to explain it to me.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, this is the beauty of daily Fantasy, Steve,

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Speaker 7: is that you don't have to go with the stars

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Speaker 7: always because you're getting a value here. And Aidan O'Connell, who,

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Speaker 7: by the way, last Friday nearly upset the Chiefs. He

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Speaker 7: almost became the most popular guy in Buffalo, at least

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Speaker 7: not named Josh Allen with his performance three hundred and

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Speaker 7: forty yards multiple passing touchdowns. He draws the bank the

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Speaker 7: Buccaneers this weekend, and the Buccaneers just haven't been able

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Speaker 7: to stop anybody on the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 7: so we are playing the matchup here. Even O'Connell played

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Speaker 7: well a couple of weapons kind of finding their footing.

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Speaker 7: One more will be talked about him just a bit

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Speaker 7: here on the show. O O'Connell finds himself in an

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Speaker 7: excellent matchup, which is the name of the game here

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Speaker 7: in Daily Fantas.

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Speaker 1: All right, so then at running back you got a

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Speaker 1: guy who is found the fountain of youth apparently number one,

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Speaker 1: and then the other guy just gets all the volume

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Speaker 1: since Zach Moss went on injured reserve.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. Let's go to Alvin Kamara first, old

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Speaker 7: faithful O. The guy's been around for a long time

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Speaker 7: and he finds himself in a great, great matchup. You know,

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Speaker 7: Kamara has kind of been unlucky recently. He has now

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Speaker 7: one hundred and thirty one point eight yards from scrimmage

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Speaker 7: per game over his last five outings. I think we

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Speaker 7: would all agree that is a massive total. He has

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Speaker 7: not found the end zone and any of those five

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Speaker 7: games feels like he is due. He plays the Giants. Moreover,

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Speaker 7: Chasa Hill is out for the season. A lot of

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Speaker 7: factors pointing towards a feat come out Alvin Kamara Day

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Speaker 7: on Sunday. I like him, even at that steep price

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Speaker 7: point of ninety two hundred dollars and then Chase Brown

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Speaker 7: the other one. And if you look at the Bengals

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Speaker 7: right now, they are doing something that is almost unfathomable

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Speaker 7: in today's NFL leany exclusively on one running back. We're

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Speaker 7: now three straight games of Chase Brown handling every rushing

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Speaker 7: attempt and every target amongst all Bengals running backs. He

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Speaker 7: is a one man band. We never see that. So

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Speaker 7: whether he runs efficiently or not on Monday night, by

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Speaker 7: the way, he should run very efficiently against that terrible

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Speaker 7: Cowboys run defense. There's gonna be enough passing volume to

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Speaker 7: find his way back too close to twenty fantasy points.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: And the way these you kind of get a better

654
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Speaker 2: handle as this season rolls on. And is there any

655
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Speaker 2: thought that maybe after three weeks they're not gonna give

656
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Speaker 2: him that kind of opportunity. But their offense still keeps

657
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: rolling though, right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they do the defense. I mean, unless Chase Brown

659
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Speaker 7: can play nose tackle for them this Monday night, he

660
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 7: looks like a pretty good bet to continue to be

661
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Speaker 7: that bell cow in the backfield. He's such a talented

662
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Speaker 7: player at least has been this season, so I have

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Speaker 7: no doubt that he'll continue to be the lead guy.

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Speaker 7: And I think for fantasy purposes, we're hoping that the

665
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Speaker 7: lead guy equates to about one hundred percent of all

666
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Speaker 7: running back opportunities. He is harkening back to maybe your

667
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Speaker 7: Aero Steve or you kind of had one running back

668
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Speaker 7: and you just lean on a thurmon Thomas if you

669
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Speaker 7: had him on your roster and it worked out very well.

670
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Speaker 7: That is not often the case here in today's NFL,

671
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Speaker 7: but it's working in Cincinnati.

672
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Speaker 2: So now into the meat of the lineup. The wide receivers,

673
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 2: some pretty familiar faces here.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, let's start tonight, Alm Monroe, Saint Brown, and the

675
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 7: last time these two teams played, the Lions and the Packers,

676
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 7: a Monroe was very good. Found the end zone. Seven catches,

677
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 7: hard guy to stop. Just in general, right, it's hard

678
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Speaker 7: to find a way to slow down an opposing team's

679
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Speaker 7: number one wide receiver when he plays in the slot

680
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Speaker 7: because if you have a lockdown corner, you don't normally

681
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Speaker 7: throw that lockdown corner into the slot. But a'm Monroe

682
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Speaker 7: lots of volume once again this season, amongst the highest

683
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Speaker 7: scoring Dynasy points per game in wide receiver scoring this year,

684
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 7: rock steady, steady Eddy player, even at a big price.

685
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Speaker 7: Let's move a little bit further down in the price

686
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Speaker 7: point here. I guess there's nowhere to go. Butt down

687
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 7: from Amin Ro I think is the second highest price

688
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 7: wide receiver on the week, But Calvin Ridley finds himself

689
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 7: in a really good spot. I actually fund about Will

690
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Speaker 7: Levis as my quarterback for the week. The Jaguards are

691
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 7: allowing over two hundred and seventy passing yards per game.

692
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Speaker 7: That is dead last in the NFL. They have really

693
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 7: struggled on that side of the ball. Calvin Ridley since

694
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Speaker 7: DeAndre Hopkins was traded away, has been very, very heavily

695
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Speaker 7: targeted by this Titans offense. Will Lewis is starting to

696
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 7: make some strides. Two guys, you know, I think we

697
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 7: all kind of want our quarterbacks to provide some instant gratification.

698
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 7: You put him in the microwave. The next thing you know,

699
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 7: they're rookie stars. Not always the case. Josh Allen's a

700
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Speaker 7: great example of that. Josh has become inarguably one of

701
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Speaker 7: the best players in the entire world and took him

702
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Speaker 7: some time at the beginning of his career. Will Levis

703
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 7: may not get to Josh's level at any point, but

704
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 7: he is starting to look better. That has helped Kelvin Ridley.

705
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Speaker 7: And then one more wide receiver here to dip back

706
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 7: into that Raiders toe, that Raiders pool. It's Jobe Myers, who.

707
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Speaker 7: This guy is just a rock solid player, really really good.

708
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Speaker 7: Last week, had a big first quarter against Kansas City

709
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Speaker 7: with eighty plus receiving yards, ended up with nearly one

710
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Speaker 7: hundred for the game. Clearly going to get all the

711
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Speaker 7: targets amongst those Raiders wide receivers. The only real competition

712
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Speaker 7: that he has for targets is Brock Bauers, who that's

713
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 7: pretty stiff competition is that guy is excellent. But a

714
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Speaker 7: great great matchup for Tampa Bay against Tampa Bay for

715
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Speaker 7: the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: All right, and then at tight end and flex, you're

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Speaker 1: I mean, Disley's had a better year receiving wise, and

718
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Speaker 1: I think most people anticipated going there to the Chargers.

719
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Speaker 1: And then I mean, you take a Jaguar here, I

720
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Speaker 1: guess you're taking the over in that Tennessee Tennessee Jacksonville game.

721
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll get to that one a minute.

722
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Speaker 7: But Will Disley, you know, guys, feels due zero catches

723
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 7: last week, zero gadgets for Will Disley, so you kind

724
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 7: of feel like the rebound is in play here. You know,

725
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 7: this Chargers team I think can throw the football against

726
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Speaker 7: Kansas City. I'm not sure if the Bills solve some

727
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 7: sort of riddle, but ever since playing Buffalo, the Chiefs

728
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 7: defense has not been nearly the same. They have been

729
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 7: a lot inferior. So Will Disley gets the nod there.

730
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Speaker 7: And then, as you alluded to, another Jaguars wide receiver,

731
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Speaker 7: Parker Washington with twelve that's right, twelve targets last week

732
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 7: for Jacksonville found the end zone as well, played eighty

733
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 7: percent of the snaps. Bryan Thomas Junior the only Jaguars

734
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Speaker 7: wide receiver to play a higher percentage of the snaps.

735
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 7: Titans very very banged up on defense right now. It

736
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Speaker 7: is of course going to be Mac Jones this week,

737
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Speaker 7: and the rest of the way for Tennessee is Trevor

738
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Speaker 7: Lawrence for Jacksonville as Trevor Lawrence is now on injured reserve.

739
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Speaker 7: That being said, the price is really good for a

740
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Speaker 7: guy who could see eight or nine targets.

741
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Speaker 2: And then you get into the last the Jacksonville Jaguars

742
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Speaker 2: at Tennessee. Tennessee struggling mightily in Jacksonville. This may be

743
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Speaker 2: their best defensive performance of the year.

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Speaker 7: You're hoping for that, yeah, you know, paying down here, right,

745
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 7: you know, we're not really bothering to pay too much

746
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 7: money here for a defense. You're just kind of hoping

747
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 7: for some Sacksville. Levis has taken a lot of those.

748
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 7: He's also been up and down, as we know, with turnovers.

749
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 7: So if you get bad Will Levis, it might mean

750
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 7: good things for your defense. So the Jaguars price is

751
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 7: thirty five hundred dollars of very low cost but potentially

752
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 7: some upside involved in that defense.

753
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Speaker 1: All right, Field, that's Week fourteen in a nutshell. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for bringing it to us. We appreciate it. You feel

755
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: good about this one for the Bills?

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Speaker 7: I do, Yeah, I mean this team's tough. They're playing,

757
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 7: no doubt the Rams are. But you know, I'm at

758
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 7: the point now we're with Buffalo no matter who they play.

759
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 7: You know, I'm not picking them, I'm not picking against them.

760
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 7: Maybe we'll have a conversation in a couple of weeks.

761
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 7: When they played Detroit, that's pretty much the you know,

762
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 7: the breath that they're breathing right now is it's you know,

763
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 7: it's Buffalo, Detroit, Kansas City, Philadelphia. To me kind of

764
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Speaker 7: feel a cut above relative to the rest of the NFL,

765
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Speaker 7: with due respect to Pittsburgh and Baltimore when they play

766
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 7: their best football, and you know, maybe the couple other

767
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 7: teams that can get hot at the right time, Minnesota

768
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 7: and Green Bay. But I do believe the core four

769
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 7: is made up of Buffalo, Kansas City and the AFC,

770
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Speaker 7: and then Detroit and also Philadelphia in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: All right, sounds good, Field, Thanks as always. We catch

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Speaker 1: up with you next week.

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Speaker 7: Thanks guys, talk you soon.

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Speaker 1: All right. That's Field Yates, ESPN NFL Insider Fantasy Football

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Speaker 1: analyst helping us out with the ultimate Fantasy lineup presented

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Speaker 1: by fan Duel. Want to get back to the phones

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Speaker 1: where people have been waiting patiently eight O three oh

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Speaker 1: five fifty, where we're asking you today what's been more

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Speaker 1: impressive from the Bills They're six straight thirty points or

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Speaker 1: more scoring outputs or having a takeaway in every single

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Speaker 1: game this season. And leading us off today is Tom

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Speaker 1: Over on the West side. What do you got for

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Speaker 1: his Tom you're all one of Bill's.

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Speaker 5: Live Ay Browning and Steve All. I got to say

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Speaker 5: it's the offense. So I give kudos Mean and mc

786
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Speaker 5: duramot because everybody said that they rode them off, and

787
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 5: they said that with all our departures, the Bills were

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Speaker 5: going to be middle of the pack while they drafted well.

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Speaker 5: And we've even been without Colvin and I'm still mad

790
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 5: at Poyer. My opinion of Poyer has changed since that hit,

791
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Speaker 5: and I'm wondering if he ever got fined for that.

792
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 5: But I'm glad mikeh hides back and the defense has

793
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 5: been holding their own. But I got to say it's

794
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 5: the Bills because they've been scoring more than thirty points

795
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Speaker 5: in most of these games.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I'll agree. I think it's a little more surprising.

797
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: You never know what you're going to get defensively from

798
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 2: any of these teams, you know, certainly, I think the

799
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: fact that they're churning out turnovers is a pleasant surprise.

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Speaker 2: You just kind of wanted them to, you know, you

801
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 2: didn't know what was going to look like this. It

802
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: has been a surprise that they've been able to do

803
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: it so consistently. But I think what you said is correct.

804
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: The offense had a bunch of new guys just like

805
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: the defense did. But it's harder to play. It's harder

806
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 2: to play offense because it's got to be choreographed so

807
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: much better on defense. If one guy makes a play,

808
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what anybody else did offensively, their ability

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00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 2: and I think the feeling you get when they're get

810
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: they're kind of shifting gears. Now they're actually getting better.

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Speaker 2: After scoring thirty points a game for four, five, six,

812
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 2: seven games, it feels like they're getting better. And that's

813
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Speaker 2: I think that's the fun part about it.

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Speaker 1: And in case you were wondering, yes, Jordan Poyer was

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Speaker 1: fine for the hit on Keyon Coleman eleven one hundred

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Speaker 1: and ninety three dollars. We do have to take a

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Speaker 1: break here. When we come back, more of your phone

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Speaker 2: And I could look at that Josh Josh Josh autograph jersey.

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Speaker 2: You may not get out of here with that. Somebody

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Speaker 2: will tackle for that. Yeah, good stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna hide it again.

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Speaker 2: All right, what's the question?

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Speaker 1: So this week's question and winner. The winner is Hubble

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Speaker 1: hub who asks Sunday's snow win was so enjoyable to watch.

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Speaker 1: What's your favorite snow game you played in or watched?

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00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 2: It was the one we got a picture of it

839
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 2: on the screen. Now. It was a night I don't

840
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: know what was it, ninety three January of ninety three

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00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: playoff game against the Raider. It's not the fifty one

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00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: to three game. It was the coldest game in Buffalo

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00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 2: Bill's history. It was like twenty six below. It was

844
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: so cold, and the picture you saw there I was

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00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: running a kickoff back, and you know you gotta dress

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Speaker 2: for the for the game, right, and it was cold,

847
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 2: so I I you know, everybody's got layers on under

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00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: their gear. So I'm running down the I catch that

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00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 2: kick and run down the sidelines. I I can't run

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00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: fast enough. I don't know that there's ever been a

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00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 2: day and I've remember run fast enough to run away

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00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: from you early, hindered by your last I had too

853
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: many clothes on. So but the game went. It was

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00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: a sunny, bright day. It was awesome, and but it

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00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 2: was bitter cold. This is the kick we're watching it

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Speaker 2: right now. It's a knuckleball. Inet falls right onto my

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00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: shoulder and I just take off and I'm going the

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00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 2: other way, and the Raiders before they can even stop

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00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: and look at me, I'm going the other way. So

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00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: I break into the free and down the left sideline

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00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: and Willie Galt comes over and knocks me out of bounds.

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00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: And that we were getting kind of pushed around at

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00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: that point. I think it was like ten to nothing

864
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: or thirteen to nothing or thirteen to three or something

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Speaker 2: like that.

866
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: So this is a divisional playoff. Yeah, nineteen ninety three.

867
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: It's January ninety four.

868
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 2: Right, so I'm running, so we get down and then

869
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 2: Kenny Davis scores on the next play, so all right,

870
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 2: we're on the board. And then right before halftime, Andre

871
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: Reid goes down the middle for a cab. We're getting

872
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: pushed around, I mean they're they're kicking us, and Jim

873
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: throws it to Andre down the middle. This is not

874
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: the play we're watching, but Jim throws it down the

875
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: middle and Andre just flops. I mean he does a

876
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: total Josh Allen on a quarterback, you know, roughing the

877
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: passer call. I mean he just flops and they give

878
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: him a pass interference down on the goal line. We

879
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: get the ball down there and we score again right

880
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: before halftime. So it's like thirteen. It's like thirteen, So

881
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 2: this is the no, that's not it. It's like thirteen

882
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: to fourteen or something at half, and we were getting

883
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: crushed and we were down three.

884
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, seventeen thirteen and a half.

885
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we come out were going a halftime thinking, hey,

886
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: that's awesome because we couldn't play any worse than we've

887
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 2: been playing and we're only down four. So that and

888
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: that really catapulled us into the second half, and we

889
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: you know, we won the game and that that was

890
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 2: a lot of fun. But it was cold. We went over,

891
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: you know, get to get you know, gatorade on the siline,

892
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 2: trying to stay hydrated, and the stuff was frozen solid

893
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 2: in the cup. I mean you couldn't even drink because

894
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 2: there was nothing. You couldn't keep the stuff from freezing

895
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: when you poured it.

896
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: Wind chill was minus fourteen.

897
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: Oh, it was so cold. It was so cold. I

898
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 2: think I said minus twenty four. It's minus one hundred

899
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: and fifty.

900
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: Well that was a kickoff. It was minus wind chill

901
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: was minus fourteen at kickoff.

902
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: So and also they cleared the field of snow so

903
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: and it was around the wall back then they kind

904
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: of left it around the wall right, and I remember

905
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: running through there, like when I crashed through there into

906
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 2: the end of the sidewall. When that when I returned

907
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: that kick. You kind of walk up to that snow

908
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 2: and you feel like you're going to like plow through it.

909
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: You know, it was frozen so hard you walked right

910
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: up on top of it. I mean it was like

911
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: a pile of rocks sitting.

912
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: There and frozen.

913
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: Everybody was freezing. Oh my gosh, it was so cold.

914
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: But we won that game and it was and at

915
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 2: that time, I think it still is the coldest game

916
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: in Bill's history. That's my favorite game because you know,

917
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 2: we got the win. There was a couple of others though, too, Billy.

918
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: With a couple of touchdown cases, including the game winner.

919
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 2: What a fun game, What a great teammate Billy was,

920
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 2: But it was great. We had another snow game against

921
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: the Dolphins forty four thirty four in a snowstorm, and

922
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: it would turned into a shootout, which is still to

923
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: this day one of the instances I referred to when

924
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about snow games and how it could go

925
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: when you know where you're going and they don't. You know,

926
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 2: it turned that game turned into a shootout because the

927
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: receivers and the quarterbacks could sling it and the dbs

928
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 2: couldn't plant and follow. You know, it turned into a

929
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: real score fest. So still a lot of fun games

930
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: here over the years. Obviously, everybody's got one. I think

931
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 2: one of my favorite ones now has been the Indianapolis

932
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 2: Colt snow game, the one that happened that I didn't

933
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 2: even play in spectacular games, and that went plenty to

934
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: choose from, though.

935
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Yeah, somebody referenced that this was a snow game

936
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: during the drought. The two thousand and two game, Ricky

937
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: Williams ran wild on the Bills. Think he had over

938
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: two hundred yards rushing. That was the let it snow game,

939
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: and nobody thought Ricky knew how to run in the snow,

940
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: and to.

941
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 2: Surprise, yards he did.

942
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 8: Yeah.

943
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: Now did they lose that game though?

944
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 8: Right?

945
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Bills lost that No.

946
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 2: I thought the Bills won that game with Ricky running

947
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:02,479
Speaker 2: all that way, and I think they lost.

948
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: Okay, the Bills won that game.

949
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: I think the Bills won that game.

950
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: I'll take your word for it.

951
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: I'm being told. I'm being told that the Bills won

952
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 2: that game. Okay, that's what I thought was so weird

953
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 2: about it. He did have all those yards and they

954
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: still lost.

955
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wild.

956
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is that. There's no you can't predict that stuff.

957
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 2: You can't mean nothing goes like you plan it, rarely,

958
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 2: rarely good.

959
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's excuse me, mister Tash. Here've got time

960
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: to squeeze question squeeze in a phone call here as

961
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: we're asking you, what's been more impressive this season. The

962
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: Bill's offense scoring thirty points or more and six straight

963
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: games of the defense having to take away in every

964
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: one of them. This season, we go to Sean in

965
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: Hamburg next, what's up Seawan?

966
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 3: Hey, how's it gone?

967
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 5: Guys? Yeah?

968
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 3: I just wanted to say that with the uh, it's

969
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 3: been the offense for me. I mean, you look at

970
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 3: what Joe Brady's doing with his first ball season as

971
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator, and looking back on these six games,

972
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 3: I mean we went into Seattle, we played in the

973
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 3: rain and on their home turf, and you know, we've

974
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 3: had good weather in between and and recently with the snow,

975
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: I mean, putting thirty five points up when there's you know,

976
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 3: snow piling up like that, It's just impressive to watch

977
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 3: this offense starting to click. And the other point that

978
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 3: I want to make on that is the biggest problem

979
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 3: that I think people can say the Bills have had

980
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 3: are the slow starts this season. So the fact that

981
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 3: we do have some slow starts and still find a

982
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 3: way to fight back to thirty plus points a game

983
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 3: on six in a row, it's just been really fun

984
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 3: to watch. And I'll go ahead and leave you guys

985
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 3: with the rest. Thanks for taking my call.

986
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: But it's interesting. I had kind of forgotten about the

987
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: slow start nervative.

988
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: That's the amazing thing. Like they've got thirty points or

989
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: more in nine of their twelve games this season, and

990
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: some of them have not started well. But then when

991
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: you get to the end of the game, you look

992
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: up at the scoreboard, there's thirty up, and you.

993
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: Think about this last game. They were three and out

994
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 2: in their first series. Yep. I think the slow starts

995
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 2: are getting shorter, you know what I I mean, it's

996
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 2: taking them less time. It's taking them less time to

997
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 2: get started, like the next series they were in. Right, Yeah,

998
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: I've forgotten about that narrative just in the last few

999
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 2: weeks that it was there, you know, attentioning. It's hard

1000
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 2: to You're right, it's hard to justify it now that

1001
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: you know they're scoring all these stinking points every week.

1002
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: It's hard to say, wow, they're slow starting. I don't know,

1003
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: not so much anymore. Yeah, I'm looking back. I mean

1004
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 2: the Kansas City game. No, they started out fast in

1005
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 2: the Kansas City game and the Colts game. I mean,

1006
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: you know, the defense kind of took over with a

1007
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: quick turnover and here we go. So that kind of

1008
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 2: has gone away a little bit recently, But you're right, I.

1009
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: How about it.

1010
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 2: I forgot we had a slow starting narrative at the well.

1011
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and people used to get all been out of

1012
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: shape about it and I and look, nobody wants the

1013
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: offense to get off to a slow start. But the

1014
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: end of every game there's they're putting a thirty burger

1015
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: on somebody, and it's just like, it's kind of hard

1016
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: to knock it when you know, all right, they'll get

1017
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: into groove and they'll be fine.

1018
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 2: And that's usually find their way.

1019
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: It's usually what it is.

1020
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 2: And I was just thinking about this. We were watching

1021
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 2: a little bit of practice today and they're walking through

1022
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 2: and doing all this stuff. Oh my gosh, it was

1023
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 2: how good is it going to feel for these guys

1024
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 2: to walk out in Sofi Stadium. It's gonna feel like

1025
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: they're playing in shorts and T shirts. I mean that,

1026
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 2: it's just so you come out. You live in this

1027
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: in this weather, you're in the middle of winter, and

1028
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: you fly to La it's seventy five degrees. You get

1029
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: off the plane and it's like, oh yeah, you go

1030
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: down here, it's it's awesome. That's that's a cure for

1031
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 2: a slow start right there. I don't know if it's

1032
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 2: gonna happen or not, but man, oh man, that that's

1033
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 2: the recipe right there.

1034
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: We've got to take a break here though. Our number

1035
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: two is going to begin with the Hall of Famer

1036
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas, who's going to join us in studio. We'll

1037
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: see if he takes some phone calls with us. So

1038
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: if you're holding at eight oh three oh five fifty,

1039
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: stay right there. We'll try to get to you as

1040
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: well and expand the conversation next with the Hall of

1041
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: Famer Thurman Thomas here on One Bill's Live presented by

1042
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: Colida of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1043
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: This this is One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

1044
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're number two on a Thursday. Chris Brown, Steve

1045
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: Tasker and joining us on the zoom line is the

1046
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas. And uh, there was at

1047
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: the game on Sunday night and uh both I got

1048
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: to ask you, have you ever seen a play like that?

1049
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: Josha just deciding to run over to a badly thrown

1050
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: ball behind Jamari Cooper and saying, hey, just give it

1051
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: to me. You ever seen that was the.

1052
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 7: Thing about it.

1053
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 9: That was the thing about it. It was a bad ball,

1054
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 9: it was a horrible pass. And I tell you what,

1055
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 9: man to improvise like that and do the thing what

1056
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 9: Josh and Omar did at that point in time, man

1057
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 9: was unbelievable. You would think after eight, seven or eight years,

1058
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 9: you would have thought that we've seen everything from Josh.

1059
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 8: And obviously we have not.

1060
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 9: And the guy probably got anywhere from seven to ten

1061
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,919
Speaker 9: more years left in the National Football League and he's

1062
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 9: going to continue to make plays like this.

1063
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 8: And now, I know we haven't seen a lot of

1064
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 8: these plays all year from.

1065
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 9: Josh, but we've seen it a couple of times against

1066
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 9: the run against Kansas City. But this there, I mean,

1067
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 9: the only thing that I worry about when Josh does this,

1068
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 9: when he'll stretching out with his right on and coming

1069
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 9: down fuddy or awkward on that on that shoulder, that's

1070
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 9: the only thing.

1071
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 8: But besides that, he's going to be Josh.

1072
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can't. I mean, I get it too,

1073
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: you don't want to change the way he plays, but

1074
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,479
Speaker 2: let him think about that stuff. I mean, you can't

1075
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 2: coach it out of him and you gotta you gotta

1076
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 2: tell him to be careful and all that that This

1077
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,959
Speaker 2: is one of those plays though, where you know what's

1078
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 2: like them, your instincts take over, your competitiveness takes over.

1079
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 2: You don't want to give up on a play. You

1080
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 2: don't want to have that throw be what defines that play.

1081
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: And you know, and get Amari hung hang a Mari

1082
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 2: out to dry. I mean there's like nine, there's three

1083
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: guys hanging on him. So Josh all of a sudden,

1084
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 2: Josh feels all bad about throwing a bad ball to

1085
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 2: a covered guy, you know, right, He's like he's he's

1086
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 2: like the good kid who feels bad about making people feel.

1087
00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 10: Bad, right exactly. And uh, yeah, you know what he's been.

1088
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 10: He's been something special this year. And I and I

1089
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 10: was just looking at josh stats. I mean, he's had

1090
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 10: one game over three hundred yard passing. I mean he

1091
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 10: usually get dad probably a.

1092
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 9: Half in some games, but he's only had one all

1093
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 9: year long. And that just tells me that this offensive

1094
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 9: line that you know, you know, you guys know one

1095
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 9: ball with this that he's spread the football around. There's

1096
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 9: different receivers, but the offensive line in the running game

1097
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 9: have been something, you know, tremendously.

1098
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so is it. They're going to LA and LA.

1099
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: You know, they're probably gonna throw the ball all over

1100
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 2: the yard because l A can can't stop the run.

1101
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 2: So I'm teasing now that listen, this is a game

1102
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: where the running game might be everything in this game

1103
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 2: because the Rams have struggled. They got a really nice

1104
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 2: pass rushing front, really young front who can really get

1105
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 2: off the passer, but they have not been able. They've

1106
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: been giving up one hundred yards to a rusher every

1107
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 2: every week for the last three or four weeks.

1108
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, and that's you know, especially going to the West coast,

1109
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 9: you know, obviously gonna be a long trip, and you know,

1110
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 9: always worry about whether the West teams coming to the East

1111
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 9: East going to West. You always worry about when you

1112
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 9: get out there is your body gonna be. But have

1113
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 9: enough time to reset to get to that game. And

1114
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 9: and the best way I think to do that it's

1115
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 9: mash them right in the face. Its mash them right

1116
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 9: in the face. Like you said, they haven't been.

1117
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 8: Well against the rush all year long.

1118
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 9: And look if we don't have the first and second

1119
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 9: running backs International Football League, because I think Detroit probably

1120
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 9: has it with Gibbs and Montgomery. But I guarantee you

1121
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 9: we're number two. We're number two, and that's gonna be

1122
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 9: very exciting to see these guys play Ray Davis and

1123
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 9: James Cook.

1124
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 8: I mean in the offensive line.

1125
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 9: I mean they're they're at a point right now where

1126
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 9: you know what, Josh, you don't have to do everything.

1127
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 8: Let us take care of the job right now. And

1128
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 8: it's working out.

1129
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 2: I said this just before we went to break a

1130
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 2: minute ago, and I was watching these guys practice, and

1131
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 2: they're practicing indoors. You know. Uh so you've been we

1132
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 2: living that we're living in the snow right now. The

1133
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 2: winter has come full, you know, full tilt, and you

1134
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 2: walk around all day bundled up from the house to

1135
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 2: the car, from the car to the work, you know,

1136
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 2: and all of that stuff. And then I wanted to

1137
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: ask you this, what's it gonna be like for these

1138
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: guys to get bundled up, go to the airport and

1139
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 2: then get off the plane in la seventy five degrees

1140
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 2: then play indoors on a dry, warm surface. Because I

1141
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 2: remember what it was like. It was awesome. And yeah,

1142
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 2: so you know, so you know, give us a you

1143
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 2: kind of you feel like you're playing in shorts and

1144
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 2: a T shirt.

1145
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 8: Right.

1146
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 9: Well, I guarantee you some of the some of the

1147
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 9: players that be going on this trip to LA, they're

1148
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 9: gonna have the sweats on as soon as they get

1149
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 9: off the plane and they're gonna take their Swiss off

1150
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 9: and they have shorts probably underneath, so.

1151
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 8: They'll get right into the wheel.

1152
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 9: So you know, with us though, I mean, it was

1153
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 9: a real grade game, it was a business trip. They

1154
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 9: had codin times, rows, no kind of what. But today

1155
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 9: with these guys especially been in the winner that they had,

1156
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 9: we've had in the last week and a half in

1157
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 9: the game against San Francisco, you know what, Like you

1158
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 9: just said, early, man, it's definitely going to turn those

1159
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 9: guys up and not to be like, Okay, I see

1160
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 9: where the energy is coming from.

1161
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 8: Now we're here, we're in LA and let's get this

1162
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 8: thing rolling.

1163
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: So I'm curious for your thoughts on you know, the

1164
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: way the Bills for the last several years, but this

1165
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: year they're using the jumbo package with the sixth offensive

1166
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: linemen more than any other team in football, and they're

1167
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: using it with great success. I mean, Alec Anderson is

1168
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: on the right side of that line and just walls

1169
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: everything off on the five yard touchdown run by Ray Davis,

1170
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: So it's one on one Ray versus a dB. And

1171
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: then there have been other instances where it's like the

1172
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: defense knows it's coming and it just doesn't matter. Because

1173
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: and we had Alec in studio here yesterday and we

1174
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: were talking to him about it, and he's like, yeah,

1175
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: it's a very powerful thing when you know, we know

1176
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: we're running the ball, they know we're running the ball,

1177
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: and it just doesn't matter. We're still productive.

1178
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 9: I'll tell you that's one of the one of the

1179
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 9: best fields in the National Football League, especially being on

1180
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 9: a team like this knowing that, hey, even if it's

1181
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 9: third and six, we still have an opportunity to run

1182
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 9: the football and get the first down, and that demoralizes

1183
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 9: defense more than anything.

1184
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, they don't mind giving up.

1185
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 9: The third down and six pass for seven yards, getting

1186
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 9: touch and get a first down.

1187
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 8: But when you're talking about running the football from.

1188
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 9: Anywhere from six to eighty yards and getting the first down, Yeah,

1189
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 9: that's when it's time to say, you know what, I

1190
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 9: gotta buckle on my strap just a little bit time

1191
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 9: because these guys are.

1192
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 8: Coming down here. They're coming down here fast. And yeah,

1193
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 8: I love that. I think they had enough on NFL

1194
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 8: Live know.

1195
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 9: That they talking about the sixth offensive linement that we're

1196
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 9: on the football field. But I think it was day Alasky.

1197
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 9: I think it was him that was designed and looking

1198
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 9: at the players like it's body and body. And when

1199
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 9: you look at that play on the touchdown, I mean

1200
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 9: the on darkins is on the left hand side. He

1201
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 9: didn't even have to bother to even block his guys.

1202
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 9: I mean he could have went up to the next

1203
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 9: level and guy and guy it was. It was that

1204
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 9: big of an opening as you can see it right there.

1205
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 9: You know, he's just you know, he wasn't even part

1206
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 9: of the running play actually, And so yeah, these guys

1207
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 9: are really been coming together.

1208
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 8: And uh and that's what they love. Man. As much

1209
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 8: as the fans love you know, Josh thorm.

1210
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 9: For four touchdowns or whatever, and you know he's getting off,

1211
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 9: but these offensive linemens, they don't want any praise. They

1212
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 9: want to know, like, hey, what's our stat line after

1213
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 9: the game, and where you're confident like.

1214
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 8: That, you know this team could go along way man.

1215
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 9: With this running game and and they're getting healthy at

1216
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 9: the right time. And I don't know what keyon Kobe

1217
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 9: is gonna be coming back, but you know, this is

1218
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 9: a dangerous offense that we're that we're seeing.

1219
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 8: Right now, and it doesn't have the superstars.

1220
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 9: I was so happy to see Manuel get a touchdown

1221
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:57,959
Speaker 9: a couple of weeks ago.

1222
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 8: You know, he's getting into the groove now. So uh man,

1223
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 8: I'm really pumped about this offense.

1224
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 2: I gotta ask you to you talk everybody talks about

1225
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 2: and I want you to kind of delve into what

1226
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 2: it means. They talk about the running game kind of

1227
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 2: sets the attitude, and it takes a good attitude to

1228
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 2: run the ball, and you can kind of feel the

1229
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 2: team's physicality when they run the ball. Well, I was

1230
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 2: making the point yesterday that not only the Bills running

1231
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 2: the ball when they when they have to, they're running

1232
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 2: it when the other team. They don't care if the

1233
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,919
Speaker 2: other team knows it's coming. That's I mean, that's the thing.

1234
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 2: I mean, when you run the ball, it's a low

1235
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 2: risk play. And we've seen teams fumble and you know

1236
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 2: what happens, but it's a low risk play for ball

1237
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 2: security and that kind of thing, and when you run

1238
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 2: it and they know it's you're gonna run it. You

1239
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 2: know they're gonna run it. You know they know you're

1240
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 2: gonna run it. They know you know that they know

1241
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 2: you're gonna run it, and you still run it effectively. Man,

1242
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 2: that just sucks the life out of a defense and

1243
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 2: the entire opponent. Right, yeah, And you know.

1244
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 9: What it can exactly when the defensive line and the

1245
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 9: defense guitar and they know that they can they can't

1246
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 9: stop it, they started doing like this, they start putting their.

1247
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 8: Hands on the hips like that and looking towards the sideline.

1248
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 9: It's like, hey, can we get an extra can we

1249
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:10,439
Speaker 9: get a fresh guy in here?

1250
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 8: Maybe? But the bills are not allowing them to do that.

1251
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 8: And you know it's it sounds.

1252
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 9: It's not a good feeling when you're on the defense

1253
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 9: and you can't stop the run at all.

1254
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 8: It turns in for a long day and usually you're

1255
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 8: trying to pull up.

1256
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 9: A safety or whatever, and all of a sudden, what

1257
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 9: happens You get a deep route throwing on it for

1258
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 9: play action or whatever.

1259
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 8: So yeah, it's it's definitely fun for those guys.

1260
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 9: I used to see remember when Kent Hole and Jimmy

1261
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 9: Richter and all those guys were like, yep, Jim.

1262
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 8: Just keep calling fifty six or fifty seven. We got it.

1263
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 8: They can't stop it. And you know, this could be

1264
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 8: third or fourth quarter.

1265
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 9: So definitely a momentum change and definitely energy for the

1266
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 9: offensive line and the offense really for the entire football

1267
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 9: team too.

1268
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1269
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: Uh. Third, we're asking our listeners today what's been more

1270
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: impressive the Bills scoring three points or more in each

1271
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: of their last six games or the fact that they've

1272
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: been able to get at least one takeaway in every

1273
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: single game this season. Which one's more impressive to you?

1274
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1275
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 11: Man, you know what, that's a tough one, Brownie, considering

1276
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 11: where we were in the off season with the trade

1277
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 11: of Stefan Diggs.

1278
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think the offense is more impressive now because

1279
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 12: I don't even think we have a guy in the

1280
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 12: top ten in receptionist right, yeah, our.

1281
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 8: Yards or anything like that.

1282
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 9: So this is one of those offenses where I think,

1283
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 9: you know what, they're running the ball well, they're passing

1284
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 9: the ball well and not turning it over. I mean,

1285
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 9: they're they're having a great year on the offensive side

1286
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 9: of the ball.

1287
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 8: But you know, what the momentum changers.

1288
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,959
Speaker 9: Are usually happened on the defensive side of the ball

1289
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 9: when they get a sack, strip, fumble or interception.

1290
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 8: Or anything like that. So, man, you know what, it's close.

1291
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 9: If I had to give an edge to the offenses,

1292
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 9: offense will be a ten point zero and the defense

1293
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 9: would probably be a nine point eight.

1294
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,479
Speaker 8: It's really close. And I think when you.

1295
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 9: Have those turnovers and when you have guys with us

1296
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 9: running the football and passing the ball and doing whatever

1297
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,439
Speaker 9: we want to, I think it energizes that entire football team.

1298
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 8: And when you do that, they're very scary.

1299
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 2: How do you think this Rams game is gonna look

1300
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 2: out in LA this week?

1301
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 8: Well, you know, it's hard to kind of picture with

1302
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 8: the Rams. I have not I think I've watched it

1303
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 8: once this year, and you know, it's just not a

1304
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 8: team that I'm really familiar with.

1305
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 9: I kind of know with McVeigh and Strafford, so Cooper

1306
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 9: Cup so you know those guys.

1307
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 8: I mean Aaron Donald's out there anymore.

1308
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 9: I mean he retired, So I mean I look at

1309
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 9: it as like you said, their defensive linemen are young,

1310
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 9: They're they're not experienced that enough, And I think our

1311
01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 9: offensive line is very experienced. If we I'll tell you what,

1312
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 9: probably the most important drive the Bills are probably going

1313
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 9: to have. It's probably going to be first drive of

1314
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 9: the game. If they can go down and score. Sometimes

1315
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 9: whether it's a field goal or whether it's.

1316
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 8: A touchdown, obviously you'd like the touchdown.

1317
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 9: If they can go down and no mistakes and just

1318
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 9: go down the field and just carve up the Rams defense,

1319
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 9: whether it's passing or throwing, I think that will probably

1320
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 9: determine the outcome of the game. If we could start

1321
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 9: off and have a fast start against this football team.

1322
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 8: I think our defense is playing well.

1323
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 9: I mean obviously at fifteen points seventeen points, but yeah,

1324
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 9: if the office can go out there and start clicking

1325
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 9: right away, it should be a long.

1326
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 8: Day for the Rams.

1327
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 2: All right. So you were at the game the other night,

1328
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 2: San Francisco at Buffalo snowy game, one of the all

1329
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 2: time fun things to do. And we just had a

1330
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 2: segment where somebody asked me what my favorite snow game

1331
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 2: was that I ever played in. I said it was

1332
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 2: the coldest game in Buffalo history, the one that was

1333
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 2: like fourteen below at kickoff and we beat the Raiders,

1334
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 2: in the round. It was January ninety four. That was

1335
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 2: one of them. I thought there's another one that was

1336
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 2: It was forty four thirty four, Buffalo over Miami when

1337
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 2: Marino was in town. We beat him on a snow game.

1338
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 2: Do you have any bad weather snow game kind of favorites, man, I.

1339
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 9: Mean, that's when you there's a lot of question. That

1340
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 9: was the only thing that I The first thing that

1341
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 9: came in my mind was that Rams game.

1342
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 8: It was a playoff game, right, the.

1343
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 2: Raiders game was the Raiders Raiders in ninety four. Janey, Yeah,

1344
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 2: it was a playoff game Division round.

1345
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 8: It was.

1346
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was a playoff game, man, And we were

1347
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 9: down that game. Yes, Raiders were handing.

1348
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 8: Us pretty pretty easily in that game. And I can't

1349
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 8: remember what turn of events.

1350
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 9: I remember Billy brook Brooks catching the touchdown pass from Gym.

1351
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 9: I think I had like a draw play for a

1352
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 9: touchdown and the momentum just switched.

1353
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 8: But I do remember that day. It was cold, Steve.

1354
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 8: It was. It was one of those games where you

1355
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,439
Speaker 8: know what, I usually watched the defense play.

1356
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 9: I was on the I was over by the heaters

1357
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 9: that day and just kind of wining for my next opportunity.

1358
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 8: I mean it was.

1359
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 5: I mean, you're looking at.

1360
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 9: The highlights that that's the first game that comes to

1361
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 9: my mind where you're talking about me playing in a

1362
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 9: frigid game like that and us because all the elements

1363
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 9: were there and the wind was howling, it was cold,

1364
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 9: it was some snow on the ground, but it was

1365
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 9: just a vicious day for any football player to be

1366
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 9: out there. And you see Bruce wearing those sleeves. I

1367
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 9: had on sleeves that day.

1368
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 8: I think I'm not even a member. It was so cold.

1369
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 8: Yere you catching that?

1370
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 9: Hey on the mad thing about this got caught by

1371
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 9: Willie Gaul. I mean, I mean you were turning on

1372
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 9: the afterburners right here.

1373
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: I had too many clothes on.

1374
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 9: Well, you would expect that from the Raiders, not somebody

1375
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 9: who plays in it.

1376
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 2: All of I'm standing on the sidelines all the time.

1377
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 2: It's hard to stay warm. I'll say this too. I'll

1378
01:07:55,680 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 2: say that that game, it was on our way I

1379
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 2: think to like our fourth Super Bowl, right yep? And uh,

1380
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 2: the next week I think is the week the year

1381
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 2: we go down and beat Miami in the championship game.

1382
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 1: This was this was the week the year before Chiefs

1383
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 1: at home with.

1384
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 2: Mont sent home with Montana. That's right. Yeah, we had

1385
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 2: a lot of great battles with the Raiders and well still,

1386
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 2: it was a lot of fun, a lot of fun

1387
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 2: that game.

1388
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 1: Although this wasn't a lot of There wasn't a lot

1389
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 1: of snow fall during the game. The snow that week

1390
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 1: had already fallen. Is there a game where you guys

1391
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: remember playing in a an actual snowfall game? Like, can

1392
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:37,799
Speaker 1: you think of a game where it was actually snowing

1393
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:38,759
Speaker 1: during the game.

1394
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 2: That forty four to thirty four game against the Dolphins,

1395
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 2: it snowed. And then there was another one too, when

1396
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 2: we were like eleven and one and the New Orleans

1397
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 2: Saints come up. They were like one and eleven. Oh,

1398
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 2: and we were eleven and two and they were two

1399
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 2: and eleven. After the game they beat us beyond four

1400
01:08:55,680 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 2: k John forty, Oh my god, great, remember, Oh my gosh.

1401
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: How the hell did you lose to the Saints.

1402
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 2: It's it's all between your ears. How the hell did

1403
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 2: that happen? Here's how it happens. The Saints come in,

1404
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 2: they got nothing to play for nothing, and they come

1405
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 2: up and we're thinking, all right, they're gonna they're gonna

1406
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 2: fold up their tent and go home. In actuality, they

1407
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 2: played it perfectly. Their coaching says, say, hey, guys, when

1408
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 2: you're sixty seven years old, when you're sixty two, like me,

1409
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 2: when you're sixty years old, and you got grandkids here,

1410
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 2: and you're gonna tell them about these games. When you

1411
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 2: had to go to Buffalo playing for the Saints in

1412
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 2: the snow and had to play the Super Bowl, you know,

1413
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 2: defend whatever, the AFC defending champions. You had to go

1414
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 2: in there and you beat them, and they came out

1415
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 2: they just played and they just had fun. They had

1416
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 2: nothing to play for. They totally cut loose. They were

1417
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 2: making they were John Fourcade was throwing rainbows into the

1418
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 2: bucket and they were making plays and we couldn't stand

1419
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 2: up and it was it was awful, but they beat us.

1420
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 9: Okay, let's let's stop talking about that, because I don't

1421
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 9: know what that to happened to this team.

1422
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 8: Okay, let's right, because because we still have a long

1423
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 8: way to go. We still have a long way to go.

1424
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 9: I mean, this is an important game against the Rams,

1425
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 9: and obviously we got the Lions coming up, and the Patriots,

1426
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 9: Jets and the Patriots.

1427
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:17,440
Speaker 8: I mean, there's.

1428
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 9: There's still a lot to be played for here, and

1429
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 9: I think you'll see a different Buffalo Bill's team.

1430
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 8: And we know that. You know, Micah Hyde was signed

1431
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 8: and uh, you.

1432
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 9: Know he's gonna bring more veteran experience this on the way. Now,

1433
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 9: I don't know if he's gonna play the now for

1434
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,879
Speaker 9: him being in that locker room, being with those players,

1435
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 9: and I'm already talking to him and he's he's excited.

1436
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 9: He said he he wants everybody to know that this

1437
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 9: team has it.

1438
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:47,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1439
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:50,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to ask you something because von Miller

1440
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 1: had a very interesting comment yesterday because a lot of

1441
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,759
Speaker 1: the players yesterday were being asked, hey, you've won the division,

1442
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 1: but you got five games to play the number one

1443
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:02,600
Speaker 1: seeds still out there for the how do you refocus

1444
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: now that accomplishing the division title has already happened and

1445
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 1: you got a lot of games to play. And this

1446
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,560
Speaker 1: is what Vaughn said is a direct quote. Coach McDermott

1447
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 1: did a really good job about six weeks ago talking

1448
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 1: to the guys and he was saying, let's not be

1449
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 1: tied to results. Let's go out there and play free.

1450
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 1: Let's go out there and play our style of football.

1451
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: Let's be the most prepared football team in the league,

1452
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 1: and let's go out there and play our game no

1453
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: matter what happens. Now. For Vaughn, he said that was weird.

1454
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,839
Speaker 1: He's like a guy like me, I got two Super Bowls.

1455
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: It was kind of hard for me at first to say, what,

1456
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: we're not tied to results, what are you talking about?

1457
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 1: But he said what that did for the team was

1458
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: it drove down all the anxiety where it's not about

1459
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: me or me doing my part.

1460
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 2: It's about the whole.

1461
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: Team when you look at it that way. And he

1462
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: said it drove down the anxiety for everybody worrying about

1463
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 1: assignments and you know, being perfect and all that stuff.

1464
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 1: So he said, it's been a strange phenomenon, but he

1465
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 1: feels it's working for them. What do you what do

1466
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: you think about that when you hear that that was

1467
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: the approach McDermott took with these guys.

1468
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 8: I think it's the right approach. You know what he's

1469
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 8: been We've.

1470
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 9: Looked at Sean McDermott's career record and whatever he's done

1471
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 9: over the past seven or eight years since he's been there.

1472
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 8: It says twenty seventeen, and I think.

1473
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 11: That's the perfect way to go at and because there

1474
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 11: is like I said, there is still a lot of

1475
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 11: football to be played, and I would love to get

1476
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 11: for the Buffalo Bills to get that number one seed.

1477
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 8: And if the only way to get that number one

1478
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 8: seeds instead of.

1479
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 9: Having three games, you have two games, and both of

1480
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 9: them will be here if you win the person in

1481
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 9: the AFC Championship game. I think that goes a long way.

1482
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 9: We have never had that before. It's always been Kansas City,

1483
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 9: or it's always been Cincinnati. We have never had that before.

1484
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 9: And Steve knows, when you get that number one seed,

1485
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,719
Speaker 9: things totally changed. But you have to continue to play

1486
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 9: this style of football. I mean, we're in a home

1487
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 9: stranger now and we're obviously getting healthier as a football team,

1488
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 9: and I think that is really remarkable for us. And

1489
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 9: we've we've overcome everything in which you know, Josh hasn't

1490
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 9: had to throw for three hundred or four hundred yards in.

1491
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 8: Eight of the last eleven games.

1492
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 9: We've been able to balance that offense defense, like you said,

1493
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 9: turnover in all these games.

1494
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 8: And so there's.

1495
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:28,600
Speaker 2: Still a lot to be played for Yeah, good stuff them.

1496
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,480
Speaker 8: All right, man, appreciated, Love you guys.

1497
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 2: Will I'll see you soon.

1498
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: Soon, all right. That's Therm and Thomas, the Hall of

1499
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 1: Famer joining us. Yeah, I just wanted to get his

1500
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 1: perspective on that because I had never heard that from

1501
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: a coach before. But when you when you think about

1502
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: how this team is playing every week, there there's like

1503
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 1: this freedom in which they're playing now where nothing looks tight.

1504
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 1: You know, they're just playing loose and free. And for

1505
01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: all I know, they might play even looser now than

1506
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: the division titles wrapped. They might be able to play

1507
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 1: even freer than they have been.

1508
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 2: It really is smarter mcderm's do that weeks before you

1509
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 2: win the division. Don't just change it just because you

1510
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,639
Speaker 2: win the division. And and he's right, just get these

1511
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 2: guys to play. And he's they're coaching these guys like

1512
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 2: they trust them as well.

1513
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: But it's so counterintuitive to say, don't be tied to

1514
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: the results because it's all about winning games in this

1515
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,839
Speaker 1: cutthroat league. Yeah, it's such a different approach.

1516
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 2: It's about playing your best, That's what it is. It's

1517
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 2: playing your best. If and it's an old ad is

1518
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 2: you know, if you play your best, give your best

1519
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,759
Speaker 2: effort and stuff, and you lose. You know, hey, Okay,

1520
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 2: that's where you got to be at. Just play your

1521
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 2: best and be ready to play your best, be prepared

1522
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 2: for what happens. And you know, even Marv used to say,

1523
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 2: the best, the most morality your team is ever going

1524
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 2: to have is when it's the most prepared and knows it.

1525
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 2: That's when you feel the best about your chances. And

1526
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 2: that's where they're that's where he's trying to keep them,

1527
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 2: and it's smart.

1528
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 1: You got to take a break here. We will get

1529
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: back to the phone calls here when we come back

1530
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,679
Speaker 1: on a Thursday edition of One Bill's Live. Stay tuned

1531
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 1: all right back here, I want Bills Live. And this

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01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: segment is brought to you by Campbell's Chunky, the soup

1533
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,000
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1534
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1535
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1536
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1537
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1538
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Speaker 2: This is it crazy smack of my lips. I better

1539
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 2: or not?

1540
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Speaker 7: So?

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01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: I already had some of this. It's really good during

1542
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 1: the break because it's nice that they kind of put

1543
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 1: the noodles in there, so it's like, oh yeah, it's

1544
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 1: chili leveled up because it's got mac and back. In November,

1545
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:58,320
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Speaker 1: and ensure food security in America Western New York as well, obviously,

1548
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: and for every sack across the league this regular season,

1549
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 1: Chunky will donate one thousand meals to Feeding America. So

1550
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 1: kind of a cool deal. This is, this is exactly

1551
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: what you want on a snowy day like today.

1552
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the best you see? Great back right now?

1553
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 2: So wearing a Chunky T shirt? Perfect? Perfect, very nice.

1554
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 1: Make sure you pick some up today. You can get

1555
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,520
Speaker 1: so much your local Wegmans.

1556
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 2: So what do you I mean, it's hard, I don't

1557
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 2: feel the I mean, moving on, I guess, but it's

1558
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 2: hard to conjure up the angst for this game after

1559
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 2: winning the division last week, you know what I mean,

1560
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 2: I feel I'm just I don't know, like somebody, I'm

1561
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 2: just like, I mean, I just think it's not like

1562
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 2: I don't think the Rams are good and it's gonna

1563
01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:00,040
Speaker 2: be a tough game and all that get me to

1564
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 2: get me to the playoffs. You know, I'm kind of well,

1565
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to wait a lot. I know. I

1566
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 2: know I'm in a kind of a post division crown funk.

1567
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 2: I think myself. I got to get out of that.

1568
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:12,839
Speaker 1: You're in a division title coma.

1569
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 2: There you go.

1570
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have been asking you all day today. Though,

1571
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 1: what is more impressive the Bill's score in thirty plus

1572
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: in each of their last six games, or getting a

1573
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 1: turnover or more in every single game this season because

1574
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,919
Speaker 1: they've got eight games in which they've had multiple takeaways.

1575
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: They've had at least one takeaway in every game this season.

1576
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 1: Back to the phones we go and to Mark in

1577
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 1: Jersey City. What's up Mark?

1578
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 4: Good afternoon, gentlemen. Thanks for taking my call. As always,

1579
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 4: I have a question for Steve after my comment. I

1580
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 4: think it's both actually, because it's turnovers coming bunches. But

1581
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 4: for this long, especially if you don't have a pass rush,

1582
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 4: like a great pass rush, they get they get a lot.

1583
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 4: I mean, you can count on at least one every

1584
01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 4: in they're playing a quarterback who's got already picked sixes

1585
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 4: in his career. He's two away from tying Brett Favre

1586
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 4: for the all time leaders, So I think there might

1587
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 4: be a there might be some more meat on the

1588
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 4: bone for that one. And their ability to run the

1589
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 4: football in the red zone inside the ten is what's

1590
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 4: impressive to me. That's the difference between this offense and

1591
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 4: prior additions with Dable or or Dorsey. They just they're

1592
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 4: really committed to staying balanced and just not having Josh

1593
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 4: be a bulldozer. And you see it with I mean,

1594
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 4: I think they're tied or their second with Detroit and

1595
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 4: Golf ain't running any end. And Steve, my one question,

1596
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:44,759
Speaker 4: did Jager mishit that kickoff? Or was it? I don't

1597
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 4: know how you ended up with it, but he kicked

1598
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 4: it off. You ended up with it, and I thought

1599
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 4: you scored, but I think it was I don't know

1600
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 4: if it was Gold or Jet who ran you down, but.

1601
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 2: Right now, yeah, he mishit it. When he planned. When

1602
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 2: Jeff planned, he is foot. He planned hard. He came

1603
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:02,640
Speaker 2: at a sharper angle and a lot of guys and

1604
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 2: his foot slipped and he topped it and it went.

1605
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 2: You know, it kind of spun sideways and it fell

1606
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 2: right to me. I didn't know if I was going

1607
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 2: to be able to catch it, but it's stuck right

1608
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 2: on me and I and I took off. So yeah,

1609
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 2: he did mishit it, no question. I'll and I'll say

1610
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:23,680
Speaker 2: this too about the offense and the some and the turnovers.

1611
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 2: Which is more impressive the Bill's scoring thirty points or

1612
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 2: the turnovers every game of one of the reasons, and

1613
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 2: let's not forget, one of the reasons they've got this

1614
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 2: streak going is because of their defense. Don't forget. They

1615
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 2: scored thirty against Indianapolis with a defensive touchdown. And they've

1616
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:49,719
Speaker 2: gotten a lot of extra possessions in these games because

1617
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 2: of the turnovers. Right, So their offense has been bullied

1618
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 2: by the fact they've gotten some extra possessions. Yeah, they

1619
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 2: feed the other I mean the offense is hard say

1620
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 2: the offensive feed and the defense except to keep the

1621
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 2: other offense desperate. But yeah, I think this defense has

1622
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 2: been really impressive. Those turnovers have a ripple effect, you

1623
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 2: can't imagine.

1624
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: Well, proof of that is in the fact that the

1625
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 1: Bills also lead the league in points scored off takeaways.

1626
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 1: This season with ninety one on the season through twelve games,

1627
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 1: and look, if you want to talk or learn more

1628
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,640
Speaker 1: about the takeaway prowess of this football team and how

1629
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 1: there has been a philosophical shift on defense as to

1630
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 1: what their approach is as a defense, we're going to

1631
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:37,480
Speaker 1: encourage you to keep an eye out for our latest

1632
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 1: podcast edition of Bills by the Numbers, which, if you

1633
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 1: haven't heard about Bills by the Numbers yet, it is

1634
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 1: an offshoot of our show one Bills Live, but we

1635
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 1: dive into statistical categories to tell you how the Bills

1636
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 1: are performing and why. And this week's edition dives into

1637
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 1: this very subject, the takeaway prowess of this defense in

1638
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,640
Speaker 1: year one and under Bobby Babbache, a new defensive coordinator

1639
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,759
Speaker 1: with wholesale changes to the lineup, and they are doing

1640
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 1: it week in and week out. Why is it happening

1641
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 1: and how is it benefiting the team? We cover all

1642
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 1: of that in this week's addition to Bills by the

1643
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 1: Numbers should be out later this afternoon and you can

1644
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: get it on any podcast platform you use, or you

1645
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: can pick it up on the Bills YouTube channel, So

1646
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 1: be sure to check that out if you want to

1647
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 1: learn more about how well the Bills are doing in

1648
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 1: terms of taking the football away. Our last caller, Mark though,

1649
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 1: did mention how the Bills are running so effectively in

1650
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 1: the red zone. And I know I crunched these numbers

1651
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 1: earlier this week, so I'll pass them along just one

1652
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 1: more time. Tied for fourth the Bills are in the

1653
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 1: NFL and yards per carry in the red zone just

1654
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 1: over three point three yards per carry. That's a good

1655
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: number when you're down in that tight area. Tied for

1656
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 1: third in rushing touchdowns in the red zone with eighteen

1657
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 1: on the season, second in the NFL with rushing first

1658
01:21:56,680 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: downs in the red zone, thirty three. In carries per

1659
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:04,679
Speaker 1: touchdown in the red zone a little over four carries,

1660
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 1: so four point two eight so one out of every

1661
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 1: four carries and change ends up in the end zone

1662
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 1: for six points. And they are first in first downs

1663
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 1: per rush in the red zone. So every first down

1664
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 1: that they run the football in the red zone, they

1665
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 1: get another first down forty three percent of the time,

1666
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 1: almost half the time.

1667
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been impressive. It's productive, and I'll say this,

1668
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:31,679
Speaker 2: that's why they're effective. Forget about throwing touchdowns. It when

1669
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 2: you can run it down close. They're defenseless. They already

1670
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 2: got guys impacting around the ball because there's no space anyway.

1671
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 2: And when you can run it against that anyway, and

1672
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? What are they gonna do?

1673
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: Well into our last callers point, you're also taking a

1674
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 1: lot of the beating off of Josh because now he's

1675
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: not trying to power the thing in, you know, unless

1676
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 1: he's catching a lateral. And that's why James Cook has

1677
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 1: ten rushing touchdowns this year. They're just giving him the

1678
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,680
Speaker 1: ball or given Ray the ball. Last week. I mean

1679
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:08,720
Speaker 1: what they have three rushing touchdowns last week? No, they

1680
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: have two, two rushing touchdowns because Josh is technically a

1681
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 1: receiving touchdown, right, How you have a reception? How you

1682
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 1: have a receiving touchdown without a reception is a mystery

1683
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 1: to me. That's a statistical anomaly, right, It's got how.

1684
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 2: Else are you gonna How are you gonna label that though?

1685
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 1: Because it was it's labeled a receiving touchdown, But if

1686
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 1: you look at a snatchet, he does not have a

1687
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 1: reception because it wasn't a forward pass.

1688
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 2: That is correct.

1689
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 1: It's crazy, but that's where it is. Let's get back

1690
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:37,759
Speaker 1: to the phones and go to Cliff out in Kentucky.

1691
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: What do you got for his Cliff, You're on one

1692
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 1: Bill's Live.

1693
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 5: How you guys doing good?

1694
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 13: Hey, you guys doing We're doing great?

1695
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 1: Can you hear us?

1696
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 5: Yes?

1697
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 13: Yes, yes, I'm sorry. Hey, I wanted to make sure

1698
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 13: that first of all, Chris, I'm from Kentucky and I

1699
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 13: listened to WGR daily, and uh, the way that it's

1700
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 13: set up down here is radio is a little bit

1701
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 13: delayed on the internet. So I run back there every

1702
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 13: time Buffalo makes a big play. And dude, you are

1703
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 13: the way your your calls are just wonderful, just f y. Yeah,

1704
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 13: And I think you guys have this odd job that

1705
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 13: you should consider. It's controlling the narrative with Josh Allen

1706
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 13: to MVP, And what I mean by that is, well,

1707
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 13: with all these talking heads on TV, they're trying to

1708
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 13: start with comparing all the stats. But Josh hasn't played

1709
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 13: in at least two fourth quarters that I can think

1710
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:36,640
Speaker 13: of off the top of my head. So we're so dominant.

1711
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 13: He's so dominant, Our old line is so dominant that

1712
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 13: we don't even play our starters in the fourth quarter.

1713
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 13: Versus above average competition in my opinion, So I think,

1714
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 13: as you know, radio personalities, who you know, you're the

1715
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 13: talking piece of the Buffalo Bills. Hey, we don't even

1716
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 13: our MVP doesn't play off four quarters. Yeah, Lamar has

1717
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 13: to play fourth because his defense is not great and

1718
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 13: we had the MVP up here. I know we can

1719
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 13: care less about the MVP. We just want the w's.

1720
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 13: But just something I wanted to go out there for

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Speaker 13: you guys. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. We've talked a little bit about it,

1724
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 2: never never directly. I don't think that it's It's strange

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01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 2: in some ways that this is Josh's best shot to

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01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 2: date at the MVP. But he's had way better statistical

1727
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:33,719
Speaker 2: years and more than one that were better than this year,

1728
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 2: way better. And there's been years we've seen it too.

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01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 2: He always has plays like the one we saw the

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01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 2: other night in San Francisco, all though different types of

1731
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 2: nobody's ever seen that one before. But you know, where

1732
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 2: he's jumping over guys, where he's you know, jumping out

1733
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 2: of bounds and throwing it back in bounds for a touchdown.

1734
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 2: All that stuff we've seen Josh do a lot of

1735
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 2: different things, and statistically this has been his probably just

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01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 2: kind of a pedestrian year for him, but the.

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01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 1: Guys, well, statistically yes, But here's the thing. Last year,

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01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,719
Speaker 1: Lamar did not have stats that were as good as Josh's,

1739
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 1: but his team was fourteen and two and they were

1740
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 1: the number one seed in the AFC and he got

1741
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 1: the MVP. So that would be my argument for this year.

1742
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:21,600
Speaker 1: If the Bills finished fourteen and two or fourteen and

1743
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 1: three or thirteen and four, and they get the number

1744
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:27,560
Speaker 1: one seed or fifteen and two, and they get the

1745
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 1: number one seed and Josh doesn't have the stats, he

1746
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:31,600
Speaker 1: should get the MVP because that's what they did with

1747
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 1: Lamar last year. That's my argument. And if they flip

1748
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 1: it and say, well, Lamar had the numbers, well, then

1749
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 1: what the hell is the criteria because it keeps changing

1750
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 1: every year? Right, that's right, the criteria Apparently, here's your

1751
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 1: name has to be Lamar Jackson.

1752
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 2: I guess, but that's it's it's weird. I'm not saying

1753
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 2: there's any wrong. If it's going to be that way,

1754
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 2: that's fine. If it's all about winning, that's great. Then

1755
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 2: make it about winning. So we have to wait and see.

1756
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 2: Obviously there's a lot of football to be It's a

1757
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 2: regular season award, so we'll wait and see at the

1758
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 2: end of the regular season.

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01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, gotta break here back in a flash on one

1760
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:26,799
Speaker 1: Bill's Live Stay with Us from the Coach's Office, presented

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1762
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, and just getting back to what we were

1763
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 1: saying earlier six weeks ago, Coach McDermott goes up in

1764
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 1: front of the team and basically says, hey, guys, we're

1765
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 1: not tied to results. We just want to be the

1766
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 1: most prepared team in the league every game we play

1767
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 1: and let the chips fall where they may, because if

1768
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 1: we are the most prepared team and we execute more

1769
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 1: often than not, we're gonna win the game. I just

1770
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 1: think it was a seismic shift of the thinking of

1771
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 1: the players going out on the field, because all they've

1772
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 1: been told since their first put a helmet on was.

1773
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:07,760
Speaker 2: Gotta win, got to win the game, got to win

1774
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 2: the game.

1775
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: And now you're now you're hyped because you're like, oh

1776
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 1: my god, I gotta do my job. I got to

1777
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 1: do my job, I gotta execute, I gotta be perfect.

1778
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 1: I got you know, when you're thinking about all that stuff,

1779
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 1: and when he says we're not tied to results, I

1780
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 1: think it's just like, oh cool, we can just go

1781
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 1: out and yeah free. So you almost see the joy

1782
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 1: in the team this year, right, Yeah, they look like

1783
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 1: they're having fun it.

1784
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 2: I'll say this from more than one source, not just

1785
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:31,719
Speaker 2: in this building Brownie and I, but there is something

1786
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 2: about this team that doesn't mean anything. Doesn't mean they're

1787
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 2: gonna go to and win it all, and doesn't mean

1788
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:37,560
Speaker 2: they're gonna win that out of but this this is

1789
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 2: special group. I think a lot of it is because

1790
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 2: we didn't know they were special. They they proved it

1791
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 2: to us. That's kind of cool. Whether they go all

1792
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 2: the way when the you know, they have win of

1793
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 2: the division where they get the one seed and go

1794
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 2: plow through the playoffs and hopefully it's it's a cool

1795
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 2: group of guys, very fun team to watch and be

1796
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 2: a part of, and we'll see how far it takes them.

1797
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 2: But yes, more than one person has they're noticing this

1798
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 2: team's a little different. That's kind of cool.

1799
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: I would say the team chemistry feels different, not that

1800
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 1: it was ever poor in the past. I just think

1801
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 1: it's stronger and tighter now for whatever reason, I can't

1802
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:16,640
Speaker 1: tell you why that is.

1803
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 2: We're totally putting the hecks on them right now.

1804
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:21,680
Speaker 1: Not we're just saying what we're We're just saying what

1805
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: we observe.

1806
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 2: This just dn a huge brawl in the Bill's locker room,

1807
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 2: is bed No, I'm teasing right, No.

1808
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,719
Speaker 1: It just seems stronger and tighter.

1809
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 2: It does. It seems whatever reason it does, continuity helps

1810
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 2: you know. Uh.

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Speaker 1: That's it for us here on a Thursday. Make sure

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01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 1: you catch up with us tomorrow. We want your questions

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01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 1: from the OBL Friday fan mail bag, and as always

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01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 1: from NFL Film Senior producer Greg Cosel joins us to

1815
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 1: dice up the x's and o's on Bill's rams. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you tomorrow. One