Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Civic Sidefer. I'm your host, Ramses.
Speaker 2: Josh.
Speaker 3: They called me q Warden. That just so happens to
Speaker 3: be my name, Ramses. Going on, what up though?
Speaker 1: Man, it's a it's a cold world.
Speaker 3: It's a cold world.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Texas one time, but we're gonna get there.
Speaker 3: Prayers up for Texas, man.
Speaker 2: But you know what, a lot of things in the news,
Speaker 2: a lot of things we have to talk about. This
Speaker 2: is still, of course, Black History Months, so I want
Speaker 2: to get to some more Black History because we haven't
Speaker 2: had a chance to do as much as I would
Speaker 2: have liked so far this month.
Speaker 1: But first order of business, I wanted to take a moment.
Speaker 2: To discuss what's happening with our Asian brothers and sisters.
Speaker 2: So I came across something this week and have a
Speaker 2: couple of times in recent months that illuminated an uptick
Speaker 2: in hate crimes against Asian American And one thing that
Speaker 2: I recall from our time on the streets, you know,
Speaker 2: my era of the Civil rights movement, if you will,
Speaker 2: was that out on the streets, I saw people who
Speaker 2: were Native American, I saw people who were Jewish, I
Speaker 2: saw people who were seek. I saw people who were
Speaker 2: of course Mexican and you know, all across the board.
Speaker 1: And you know what else I saw.
Speaker 2: I saw Asian people out there too, signs that say
Speaker 2: Black Lives Matter, and they were out there supporting.
Speaker 1: Our cause.
Speaker 2: And I want to make sure that we keep that
Speaker 2: same energy when it comes time for us to support
Speaker 2: our age brothers and sisters. And so, if you're listening
Speaker 2: to my voice right now and you got something that
Speaker 2: you need to talk about, you got some funk that
Speaker 2: you want to air out, this is a space that
Speaker 2: we want to share with you as well. You know,
Speaker 2: we rise in solidarity. We're all in this together. And
Speaker 2: you know, I know that a lot of folks have
Speaker 2: made the connection with you know, Donald Trump, the former president,
Speaker 2: calling COVID nineteen the China virus uh and there being
Speaker 2: an association with like hate crimes against Asian Americans.
Speaker 1: And so we the Black Delegation.
Speaker 2: Hill will officially, you know, put our hat in the
Speaker 2: ring or officially declare this to shared space for our.
Speaker 1: Asian brothers and sisters.
Speaker 2: If you want to come up and talk about it,
Speaker 2: you know, just hit the website. So if excited for
Speaker 2: dot com reach out to me or Q. Let us
Speaker 2: know what's going on and let's talk about it. Let's
Speaker 2: have some therapy, and let's let's teach each other how
Speaker 2: to be better allies. I'm not gonna forget the energy
Speaker 2: that I felt out there, and so you know, this
Speaker 2: is and this is what we created from that, and
Speaker 2: this is an opportunity we can share that with. So
Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure I got that off. Another
Speaker 2: thing I wanted to say was I was fortunate enough
Speaker 2: this week to speak for a community college up in
Speaker 2: black Staff. I was They had an event for a
Speaker 2: Black History Month, and you know, they invited me to
Speaker 2: come and speak and just kind of share my thoughts
Speaker 2: on you know the world and you know what leadership
Speaker 2: looks like when you live in black skin. And the
Speaker 2: theme of my message was leading with love and you know,
Speaker 2: so big shout out to everybody that you know, uh
Speaker 2: listened to me, you know, give my presentation to that
Speaker 2: to that college. But something came up during that presentation
Speaker 2: and it had to do with cancel culture. They asked,
Speaker 2: you know, what my take on cancel culture was, and
Speaker 2: I came up with an answer that I thought.
Speaker 1: Was appropriate.
Speaker 2: And I want to just kind of share my thoughts
Speaker 2: again today with respect to cancel culture. So I recognize that,
Speaker 2: you know, cancel culture especially you know, so on this
Speaker 2: show we talk about leaving a space in the narrative
Speaker 2: for there to be some forgiveness, right, and that is
Speaker 2: inconsistent with the spirit of cancel culture. You know, you
Speaker 2: can't cancel someone out and forgive them at the same time.
Speaker 2: The two approaches are incompatible, know, and so if I
Speaker 2: had to choose one, obviously I'm gonna leave some space
Speaker 2: in the narrative for there to be some forgiveness. But
Speaker 2: I also recognize that as the ultimate consequence, to cancel
Speaker 2: someone certainly works as a deterrent for some folks, you know,
Speaker 2: to recognize, hey, there might be some consequences for the
Speaker 2: things that I say and the things that I do.
Speaker 2: I think that a lot of times, you know, we're
Speaker 2: we have that mob mentality.
Speaker 1: Perhaps it's rightfully so, but there is.
Speaker 2: A mob mentality sometimes when something bad happens to someone
Speaker 2: and everyone jumps on board to try to you know,
Speaker 2: seek justice, immediate justice and you know, remedy the situation
Speaker 2: brings some balance to the universe. But I think that
Speaker 2: when the first move is to just cancel someone out.
Speaker 2: I think that what we end up doing, unfortunately, is
Speaker 2: creating a dividing line where Okay, you've committed this sin
Speaker 2: against me, and I want nothing to do with you anymore.
Speaker 2: And then whoever has committed the offense is on the
Speaker 2: opposite side of a line. And you know, the easiest
Speaker 2: thing for them to do is double down on why
Speaker 2: they are right, as opposed to acknowledging that they made
Speaker 2: a mistake. We haven't left the room in the narrative
Speaker 2: for them to come back and say, listen, I made
Speaker 2: a mistake. I apologize, and then you know every day
Speaker 2: after that they're going to be a supporter, a cheerleader,
Speaker 2: a champion for our cause. What we've done is created
Speaker 2: a bona fide, long term enemy out of them by
Speaker 2: canceling them. And a lot of times these folks, when
Speaker 2: they get canceled, they will seek other folks that either
Speaker 2: have been canceled themselves or hold an opposing view of
Speaker 2: how the world should be. And then they find comfort
Speaker 2: in community in these small circles, and then they're that
Speaker 2: hatred and that divisiveness that tends to fester. And then
Speaker 2: because their strength and numbers, they become stronger. So the
Speaker 2: more people we cancel out popular culture and out of
Speaker 2: our you know, work circles and out of everything, the
Speaker 2: more we're creating a stronger.
Speaker 1: Enemy, if you will.
Speaker 2: And so I just thought it was important that that
Speaker 2: be stated, because you know, I see a lot of
Speaker 2: that happening, and I recognize that, you know, we only
Speaker 2: have two cheeks. So when I when you got to
Speaker 2: turn the other cheek, that's a that's a tall order,
Speaker 2: but more often than not, it's the right thing to do,
Speaker 2: which is why I turn the other cheeks sounds so
Speaker 2: familiar to you. That's wisdom that's been around a lot
Speaker 2: longer than Ramses has been around. But you know, I've
Speaker 2: never heard anybody say turn two cheeks. And so you know,
Speaker 2: there should be some ultimate consequences. And so for folks
Speaker 2: who you know very much believe that cancel culture has created.
Speaker 1: A little bit more mobility with respect to the cause.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that cancel culture doesn't have its place,
Speaker 2: or canceling folks doesn't have its place, but I think
Speaker 2: that if we relegated it to simply just the ultimate consequence,
Speaker 2: that if we took some steps before we canceled, some
Speaker 2: folks out that we would end up.
Speaker 1: Perhaps creating more allies.
Speaker 2: Than long term enemies. Just my thoughts, you know. And
Speaker 2: you know, if you want to debate me, you know
Speaker 2: you know where to find me again, civiccipher dot com.
Speaker 2: You want to check it out. Two things I definitely
Speaker 2: wanted to get off. So yeah, and then now we
Speaker 2: have to talk about big news, which is man, I
Speaker 2: feel like we're gonna this is gonna be a full
Speaker 2: frontal on capitalism.
Speaker 3: But how dare you speak against what makes this country great?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 2: I don't know that capitalism is what makes the country great.
Speaker 2: I think that the things that the country does right, Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I wouldn't put capitalism in that in that group.
Speaker 3: There's not a how dare you well? Listen another thing
Speaker 3: that I could deal against, the great capitalism that makes
Speaker 3: America great.
Speaker 2: Q's being funny if you haven't picked up on the sarcasm.
Speaker 3: Here before and again.
Speaker 2: But listen listen, just because some folks might, you know,
Speaker 2: agree with what Q is joking about. The capitalism is
Speaker 2: great and the ultimate decider and the force, the invisible
Speaker 2: force that guides you know, all things that are true
Speaker 2: and just in the world. It doesn't mean that it
Speaker 2: can't be improved upon, that it can't be better. You know,
Speaker 2: So for those folks who champion capitalism, who have drank
Speaker 2: the kool aid, if you will, it doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: you can't include some ideas from communism, socialism, marxistm you know,
Speaker 2: you name it, you know, because all of these ideas
Speaker 2: were born out of folks trying to do better for
Speaker 2: their countries.
Speaker 1: You know, they were trying to do something.
Speaker 2: And you know, granted there's a lot of corruption that happens,
Speaker 2: but I mean, obviously we're seeing right now that there's
Speaker 2: a lot of corruption in a capitalistic society too, you know,
Speaker 2: so there's nobody who is free of sin. And so
Speaker 2: just because there are folks who are champion capitalism doesn't
Speaker 2: mean that it cannot be improved upon. That there are
Speaker 2: things that we can't pick and choose and create something
Speaker 2: that's new.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: For those folks who are super all American, we can
Speaker 2: call it americanalism. You know, let's just make it work
Speaker 2: for everyone.
Speaker 1: And then we're good.
Speaker 2: But the reason we're talking about this is because, of course,
Speaker 2: what we've seen in Texas and this has kind of
Speaker 2: been on our minds for some time.
Speaker 1: It's really sad.
Speaker 2: And the thing is, you know, we're based in Phoenix,
Speaker 2: and we have a lot of listeners in Texas too,
Speaker 2: but we're based in Phoenix, and so there's a bit
Speaker 2: of a kinship between you know, Arizona, Texas, New Mexico.
Speaker 2: We're all in the Southwest, and so there's a part
Speaker 2: of this that doesn't feel too distant, too far away
Speaker 2: from what could happen to me in my home with
Speaker 2: my family and my children. But there's a very different
Speaker 2: culture that exists in Texas that is very self assured,
Speaker 2: very self confident. You know, Texans just got it figured out.
Speaker 2: They got it right. In the great State of Texas.
Speaker 2: You know, there's this attitude there.
Speaker 1: And it's it's very reflective of America. You know what
Speaker 1: is it.
Speaker 2: Uh, folks are really patriotic and they think America is
Speaker 2: the best place in the world. What's that called nationalism?
Speaker 2: American exceptionalism, nationalism?
Speaker 1: THERETI is.
Speaker 2: A similar attitude in Texas too, where you know, Texas
Speaker 2: is the best and nobody can you know, no one's
Speaker 2: on their level. And you know, for a lot of folks,
Speaker 2: that's fine, you know, that's that's great.
Speaker 1: And it should you should feel that way. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been to Texas.
Speaker 2: I like that place because Texas is dope. But I
Speaker 2: think that now is a great opportunity for us to
Speaker 2: see the shortcomings and and the places where maybe Texas
Speaker 2: is not so great. And I think that, you know,
Speaker 2: that nationalism is kind of learn that.
Speaker 1: What we'll do is we'll look at the US and say, oh,
Speaker 1: the US does this great.
Speaker 2: We have the biggest military, we have the you know whatever,
Speaker 2: we have all the biggest companies and you know whatever
Speaker 2: it is that folks see and they'll ignore the shortcomings
Speaker 2: because it hasn't affected them.
Speaker 1: Or you know whatever.
Speaker 2: Well, in Texas, that exceptionalism has caught up to them,
Speaker 2: because how great is the state of Texas now? When
Speaker 2: Texas can't take care of its people, when its senator
Speaker 2: jumps on an airplane to go to Cancun, when folks
Speaker 2: are literally freezing to death in their homes, and again
Speaker 2: where we are not a far cry from that. And
Speaker 2: then the reason why this is important on this program
Speaker 2: is because I forget which which side of town north,
Speaker 2: southeast or west, but I think it was Austin, and
Speaker 2: the it will just say east. I might be wrong,
Speaker 2: but the east side of Austin, Texas was like primarily
Speaker 2: like black an American, that was the black side of town,
Speaker 2: if you will. And that whole side of town the
Speaker 2: lights are off and there's no electricity, and then there's
Speaker 2: you know, electricity elsewhere. There's in the city center, of course.
Speaker 2: And on the other side of town.
Speaker 1: I think that was Houston. Houston, was it okay? So Houston,
Speaker 1: maybe not Austin.
Speaker 3: You had the corporations that are lit up, empty office
Speaker 3: buildings lit up warm, and like you said, the community
Speaker 3: where you know, black and brown people live, no power,
Speaker 3: no electricity, no heat, nothing. Some of those places do
Speaker 3: have gas, however, so you got people trying to heat
Speaker 3: their homes with the stove. And then you have those
Speaker 3: same people having to be rushed to the hospital because
Speaker 3: of carbon monoxide poisoning, having to choose, you know, the
Speaker 3: simpler of two ways to die, hypothermia or poison. That's
Speaker 3: the choice their government is leaving them to make. Is
Speaker 3: they've deregulated their power grid, and the way that the
Speaker 3: citizens of that state receive power is deregulated to a
Speaker 3: point where those companies are seeing mass profits now as
Speaker 3: their people are dying, literally freezing to death babies. You
Speaker 3: know people, you know Pita, and you know, people do
Speaker 3: a lot of pretending to be outraged by the way
Speaker 3: that animals are treated. They have animals too, and you
Speaker 3: know those people are suffering, and they've given power to
Speaker 3: private corporation to take over things like utilities. Google the
Speaker 3: word utility and you'll understand why private corporations shouldn't be
Speaker 3: in charge of that, and why should people shouldn't be
Speaker 3: left to freeze. People who are paying their bills on time,
Speaker 3: people who have always paid the bills on time, are suffering,
Speaker 3: and those corporations are seeing massive profits because of shortages.
Speaker 3: There's no incentive for them to swiftly act or change
Speaker 3: infrastructure or do anything that's for the benefit of the
Speaker 3: people that they're supposed to serve. This is for profit capitalism.
Speaker 1: So another.
Speaker 2: Crazy part about this is that usually when stuff like
Speaker 2: this happens, it tends to disproportionately affect black and brown people,
Speaker 2: as black folks and brown folks make up the two
Speaker 2: largest minority groups in this country and rarely do problems
Speaker 2: affect white folks in the same way, which is part
Speaker 2: of the reason why they show exists so that there's
Speaker 2: you know, a little bit of more of a voice
Speaker 2: in the in the media landscape with respect to you know,
Speaker 2: issues that affect you know, black folks.
Speaker 3: Interesting point, however, especially in a place like Texas, where
Speaker 3: people you know, made a big deal at the last
Speaker 3: election about the state being turned blue because it's always
Speaker 3: been red. The really strange thing about the demographics of
Speaker 3: the biggest cities in Texas, Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, is
Speaker 3: that they're predominantly blue. It's just as is true throughout
Speaker 3: the South, very very difficult to vote there. That is
Speaker 3: not by mistake either, Right, So, not just the problems
Speaker 3: of black and brown people, but the problems of poor
Speaker 3: people across the board, Black, White, Asian, Hispanic, the problems
Speaker 3: of poor people and our lack of ability to unite
Speaker 3: on those fronts because of the very divisive rhetoric that's
Speaker 3: been ingrained into us for hundreds of years. Right, So,
Speaker 3: you have working forces upholding what benefits, upholding what benefits
Speaker 3: the corporations rather than what benefits labor. The labor is
Speaker 3: fighting to uphold what benefits the corporation, and instead of
Speaker 3: the labor, you have poor white people that vote for
Speaker 3: laws and legislation that benefits rich white people because they
Speaker 3: just see themselves as white and pretended that very large
Speaker 3: gap in financial equality doesn't exist. Right, So, if you
Speaker 3: convince a population of people that their problems are external,
Speaker 3: especially when you can point to another group of people
Speaker 3: and say, only things that are holding you back are
Speaker 3: those criminals over there, those people that are stealing your
Speaker 3: jobs and trying to rape your wives and trying to
Speaker 3: rob you and steal from you, and whatever the case,
Speaker 3: those criminals over there, those people are the only things
Speaker 3: that are holding you back. I know I have significantly
Speaker 3: more than you, but you can do this too, if
Speaker 3: you just work hard. If you just work hard, you
Speaker 3: can reach the point that I'm at. I know, not
Speaker 3: you or your grandfather or your great grandfather have ever
Speaker 3: had wealth. But if you just work hard, you'll be
Speaker 3: the one that gets here to where I am.
Speaker 1: And you keep them out of your way, correct, you know?
Speaker 3: So you know, when you speak about the problems that
Speaker 3: disproportionately affect black people, those same issues disproportionately affect poor people.
Speaker 3: Except when you can convince a large population of a
Speaker 3: large segment of that poor population that these things that
Speaker 3: are happening to them are not supposed to be happening
Speaker 3: to them. However, they are supposed to be happening to
Speaker 3: that group over there because they just inherently deserve it.
Speaker 3: You create a divide that maintains the power, wealth and
Speaker 3: control of a very very very small minority. How about that,
Speaker 3: And the vast majority of people will vote, fight and
Speaker 3: empower legislation, peticians and laws against their own best interest
Speaker 3: in the name of uphoping, upholding this wonderful American dream
Speaker 3: that has the best marketing strategy and the history of
Speaker 3: Earth ever.
Speaker 1: So, uh, you know something that I think is.
Speaker 2: We'll call it interesting, is that in a place like Texas,
Speaker 2: you can really get off this idea that climate change
Speaker 2: is a hoax. You could have a week ago, right,
Speaker 2: You have a hard time come kid off now, right,
Speaker 2: because people got snow in their driveways, right, So it's
Speaker 2: a little different these days. But people that don't own
Speaker 2: coats because you because you live in Houston.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: So you know the way I figure it is even
Speaker 3: that idea, not to cut you off, but even the
Speaker 3: idea of climate change, we used to call it very
Speaker 3: flagrantly global warming. Client climate change is like the PC version, right,
Speaker 3: So instead of just speaking on racism, we speak on
Speaker 3: racial injustices, like more vanilla, more water down, you know,
Speaker 3: more accepted words that don't trigger people and make them
Speaker 3: feel less guilty. Well said, we can't even agree on
Speaker 3: global warming, something that should be extremely nonpartisan.
Speaker 1: Like we all on this planet together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I don't want to go down this rabbit hole.
Speaker 1: But no, but that's that's what're you're goodness.
Speaker 2: The thing is like the folks that think that global
Speaker 2: warming is a myth perpetuated by the Chinese government to
Speaker 2: hinder American industry.
Speaker 3: Or perpetuated by Democrats, because you know, that's the that's
Speaker 3: the easy punch to throw.
Speaker 1: What we what we find out now is you know,
Speaker 1: you know it's Cuba saying.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people or maybe not a lot
Speaker 2: of people, but a handful of people say that who
Speaker 2: made a lot of money over the years off of
Speaker 2: these utilities.
Speaker 1: And completely ignoring the.
Speaker 2: Risks to you know, their power grid because there's no
Speaker 2: fiscal incentive for them to do it.
Speaker 1: You know, they've elected people who.
Speaker 2: Have these bizarre views of science, the same science that
Speaker 2: has produced the richness.
Speaker 1: In this capitalistic society.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden is not good enough when it
Speaker 2: comes to hey, we should probably reinforce these levees, you
Speaker 2: know in Louisiana, we should probably you know, deal with
Speaker 2: our power, whatever whatever it is.
Speaker 3: And that school of thinking isn't new, right, that the
Speaker 3: science makes it very difficult for you to justify your
Speaker 3: very very sol fish and and and and when you
Speaker 3: think and operate in a way that's designed to only
Speaker 3: help you, you come up with ways to try to
Speaker 3: justify it because you don't want to just say I'm
Speaker 3: a selfish, awful person, So you have to you have
Speaker 3: to ignore very obvious truths that hit you in the face,
Speaker 3: like science. It's the reason why people used to use
Speaker 3: religion to justify slavery. It's the reason why people to
Speaker 3: this day and for thousands of years have used religion
Speaker 3: to justify war, right when even then it was just
Speaker 3: we want the land and the resources that you have.
Speaker 3: Our God is greater than yours, and because of that,
Speaker 3: we are henceforth entitled to this area. And then you know,
Speaker 3: you convince the people that follow you we're doing the
Speaker 3: work of God so that they don't feel guilty for
Speaker 3: murdering and taking from people. So you and a lot
Speaker 3: of these cases that choice to ignore science. It's very
Speaker 3: very intentional. It's not new. We just have way more
Speaker 3: information available to us now, so some of these things
Speaker 3: are way more obvious. But through throughout time we've ignored
Speaker 3: truths for the justification of awful acts. Right, pretending that
Speaker 3: electricity isn't finite, It has to be created. They don't
Speaker 3: just plug a plug into earth and power comes out, right,
Speaker 3: So that very very irresponsible thing they did to deregulate
Speaker 3: power in Texas so they could maximize profit. They did
Speaker 3: not see this coming. But if they jump on TV,
Speaker 3: then they have to be held responsible because they did that.
Speaker 3: They elected the position that they're in, not the people,
Speaker 3: but the people that represent them, the people that they
Speaker 3: vote for, the people that they continue to vote for.
Speaker 3: How about that Ted Cruz just one again.
Speaker 1: Be better? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So, and he's a favorite for or they're they're talking
Speaker 2: about him running for president in twenty.
Speaker 3: Four would not surprise me at all a little bit,
Speaker 3: you know. So I don't typically jump in when Rams
Speaker 3: is talking because I love listening to him talk. But
Speaker 3: he keeps saying things that make a light bulb pop
Speaker 3: up in my head, and I like, yo, I have
Speaker 3: to say this out loud because it's painful and it's difficult,
Speaker 3: and you know, we try to keep the show as
Speaker 3: light as possible, but man, we talk when we're not
Speaker 3: on the mic about the idea that our country are.
Speaker 3: Our fellow citizens keep providing us with very very necessary
Speaker 3: things to talk about that happen to be simultaneously very
Speaker 3: very difficult things to talk about.
Speaker 2: And you know that I think that the most flagrant
Speaker 2: thing of all, because okay, let's say, for instance, let's
Speaker 2: play Devil's advocate. Let's say, for instance, you know, they
Speaker 2: deregulate their power grid and they just figured they got
Speaker 2: it all figured out, you know, and it's Texas, so
Speaker 2: they don't anticipate whatever you know, you know, the environmental
Speaker 2: impact studies or not impact but environmental studies or whatever
Speaker 2: it is. Whatever information they had led them to believe that,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe this is an unlikely event, so this
Speaker 2: will maximize the amount of revenue and whatever. And let's
Speaker 2: say that nobody has a complaint about.
Speaker 3: That and give them that credit to ramses like, you
Speaker 3: don't expect arctic winter in Houston, so we'll give them.
Speaker 3: We'll give us all just like we don't expect earthquakes
Speaker 3: here or hurricanes, So we'll do that.
Speaker 1: What will surprise me is that.
Speaker 2: The Republican Party in this country. Now it makes sense
Speaker 2: that I would be critical of the Republican Party for
Speaker 2: a lot of reasons.
Speaker 1: You know. But if I just took what's happened in
Speaker 1: my life in the past.
Speaker 3: Year, only six months, you.
Speaker 2: Know, and and I stacked everything up democratic versus Republican,
Speaker 2: and I didn't get any crazy conspiracy baby blood drinking
Speaker 2: theories from any weird websites. I like, looked at reputable
Speaker 2: news sources, associated Press to the New York Times, you know,
Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal, you know what, reputable sources.
Speaker 3: No one did some actual scholastic and academic research.
Speaker 2: I've watched the interviews, and you know, and I had
Speaker 2: a degree of trust in the collective uh operating in
Speaker 2: good faith. Sure sure, and and and and the collective
Speaker 2: voice of the media you know online and written of
Speaker 2: reputable sources that have been around.
Speaker 1: Since before I was born.
Speaker 2: In most cases, nothing that popped up online in the
Speaker 2: past two three, four years, you know, nothing like that,
Speaker 2: just real solid. If I just took that, and I
Speaker 2: took everything that was true of the Republican Party and
Speaker 2: I stacked that against everything that was true of the
Speaker 2: Democratic Party, good and bad.
Speaker 3: And there are bad, there are good and bad from both.
Speaker 2: Right, there's no way in the world, as a human
Speaker 2: being endowed with consciousness from a Christian God, with a
Speaker 2: Bible that says plainly all of these ideas and all
Speaker 2: these these these philosophies and these anecdotes and these messages,
Speaker 2: there's no way that I could look at the Republican
Speaker 2: Party and say this is the group of folks that
Speaker 2: I will align myself with morally, and I will vote
Speaker 2: along these party lines.
Speaker 1: It would be impossible to do it.
Speaker 2: At no point have they even given a valiant account
Speaker 2: of themselves. And that's further illustrated by the fact that
Speaker 2: one of the foremost folks in the Republican Party at
Speaker 2: this point, the foremost names, is Ted Cruz, who.
Speaker 3: Just so happens to be a senator from Texas and
Speaker 3: of all places.
Speaker 2: And the funny part about it is if he's literally
Speaker 2: have people dying in their homes, it's a state of emergency.
Speaker 2: There's no electricity in the middle of like an arctic
Speaker 2: what is it an Arctic winter or whatever it's called.
Speaker 3: A Once in a lifetime winter storm.
Speaker 2: There it is okay, and he hops on a plane
Speaker 2: to hold on. So the other day there was an
Speaker 2: impeachment trial for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: The trial was to ensure that Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Lost his Secret Service protection so that we the taxpayers
Speaker 2: no longer have.
Speaker 3: To ex pension that we also have to pay for.
Speaker 2: And he is not no longer eligible to run again
Speaker 2: in this country. Right, And fortunately there were some Republicans
Speaker 2: that voted to impeach him, but not enough. And you know,
Speaker 2: I guess no one. That really didn't surprise anyone, because
Speaker 2: we see over and over again that Republicans have no
Speaker 2: moral ground and are very comfortable with that fact, and
Speaker 2: the folks that support them do not require them to
Speaker 2: have any morality whatsoever.
Speaker 3: And that's why that's true in every form of relationship. Sure,
Speaker 3: so I.
Speaker 2: Guess right now what I'm doing is I'm speaking to
Speaker 2: any potential on the fence votes or maybe even any
Speaker 2: Republicans who might tune in to hear what the other
Speaker 2: side is talking.
Speaker 3: And this is where I say, my brother is so
Speaker 3: much more fair and is so much better human being
Speaker 3: than me, because the idea that anybody's on the fence
Speaker 3: still to me just seems like a ridiculous concept.
Speaker 2: It does.
Speaker 3: But you know, I so in the sows far more
Speaker 3: grace and understanding than me. And that's why he's better
Speaker 3: as a human than I am. Because you're on the
Speaker 3: fence steel right, like you're still trying to figure You're
Speaker 3: still trying to figure this out.
Speaker 1: Well, watch this, watch this.
Speaker 2: So the beginning of or I think it was the
Speaker 2: last show that we did of twenty twenty hawd a
Speaker 2: friend of mine come up. His name was Ian. His
Speaker 2: name is Ian. He's still alive. So Ian came up.
Speaker 2: And the reason I wanted Ian to come up is
Speaker 2: because he's a small business owner. He is I think
Speaker 2: he's a good decent person. You know, he's reasonably aware
Speaker 2: of what's happening politically and otherwise in the world. He
Speaker 2: is the sort of person who you would want supporting
Speaker 2: you if you had anything to speak about that had
Speaker 2: to do with, you know, your.
Speaker 1: Government, right.
Speaker 2: And he once upon a time we were having a
Speaker 2: conversation before Kim on the show, and he said, you
Speaker 2: know what what I like to do is I like
Speaker 2: to listen to a little bit of NPR when I'm
Speaker 2: in the car. But I'm not opposed to watching a
Speaker 2: little bit of like Fox News or something like that.
Speaker 2: He said, He's like, I like to make sure I
Speaker 2: have a well rounded view, and it seems like these
Speaker 2: guys are a little bit more leaning in that way.
Speaker 2: These guys are a little bit more leaning in this way.
Speaker 2: But I want to make sure that I have all
Speaker 2: the information. And what I found is that, you know,
Speaker 2: he it might be because he was talking to me
Speaker 2: and I have a huge afro and I have brown
Speaker 2: skin that he was he seemed like he was like,
Speaker 2: you know what, if I take everything, I find that overall,
Speaker 2: where I find my decisions on how I want to
Speaker 2: feel about something, they tend to align more with the
Speaker 2: democratic way of thinking than the republic in way of thinking.
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't call myself either, right, And I think
Speaker 2: that's true. I don't think he said that because I'm me,
Speaker 2: because it's really easy, Like the truth is pretty loud,
Speaker 2: you know. And you know, we're all human beings from
Speaker 2: the same creator, you know, And so yeah, I think
Speaker 2: that largely we know how to behave. We are taught
Speaker 2: to behave in different ways. Because children they tend to
Speaker 2: get along pretty good, you know, it's when they get
Speaker 2: taught different stuff and they get older that they start
Speaker 2: acting crazy. But the point I was making earlier was.
Speaker 1: For those folks like Ian who maybe you know, they
Speaker 1: still kind of operate in that way.
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes they want their independence, They want to
Speaker 2: vote for this candidate sometime and that candidate the other time.
Speaker 1: Whatever, you know.
Speaker 2: In this impeachment trial, Mitch McConnell, who is like the
Speaker 2: head Senate the h and I see and the Senate
Speaker 2: you know what I mean or HWIC I don't know
Speaker 2: how it would describe that, but for the for the
Speaker 2: Senate Republicans, this guy votes to acquit Donald Trump and
Speaker 2: immediately after voting to acquit suggests it says he didn't
Speaker 2: suggest that he set it out right like he was
Speaker 2: a dude, was responsible for this attack on the Capitol.
Speaker 2: And then he had this thing that he said was like,
Speaker 2: we can't impeach someone who's left office, which is not true.
Speaker 2: There's case precedent for that having happened in this country
Speaker 2: before for an elected position, and that was argued initially
Speaker 2: when during the opening argument, so he was there and
Speaker 2: heard it. Other reports that I heard from that hearing
Speaker 2: was that folks were like doodling scribbling on their phone,
Speaker 2: you know, not really paying attention.
Speaker 3: Fifteen of the senators that voted, we're not even there
Speaker 3: for the opening argument, and then they got to vote
Speaker 3: and got to vote steal. And of course we know
Speaker 3: how they voted because they don't actually care.
Speaker 1: Right about what's fit like. That's the thing.
Speaker 2: Even if you're like yo, I however you feel, you know,
Speaker 2: if we're gonna do something fair, you you you elect
Speaker 2: these people to show up.
Speaker 1: They represent your interest.
Speaker 2: You want someone in there doing a fair job, right,
Speaker 2: do the right, do the right job. If I'm guilty
Speaker 2: and someone's gonna, you know, do their job, then I
Speaker 2: should expect you know that that party. If I'm innocent,
Speaker 2: I should you know what I mean, provided the person
Speaker 2: is doing their job. Anyway, these guys, like you said,
Speaker 2: they didn't even show up. They weren't paying attention. They
Speaker 2: were just completely disconnect They knew.
Speaker 3: They were going to vote, They made up their mind
Speaker 3: before they heard any evidence, so chose not to hear
Speaker 3: any evidence.
Speaker 1: And Republican voters.
Speaker 2: Look at this. They look at the behavior of you know,
Speaker 2: Mitch McConnell and these other Republicans. They look at the
Speaker 2: behavior of just the right it's turned into this really
Speaker 2: ugly like all the things that they think that black
Speaker 2: people are, they're that on full display for the world,
Speaker 2: those people, and they'll never take ownership of.
Speaker 3: Those people storm the United States Capital, those people occupied,
Speaker 3: They occupied the United States Capital. It's they murdered a
Speaker 3: police officer. Hard stop.
Speaker 1: He is no longer alive. They have to bury that man.
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about stealing out of Naci Pelosi's office,
Speaker 3: which is a federal offense, stealing from a federally owned property.
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about things that they might consider petty
Speaker 3: and right office. Those people were just upset when we
Speaker 3: were just upset. We weren't even they didn't want us
Speaker 3: to even be outside. But those people were just so
Speaker 3: tired of being ignored. And whatever their reasoning is, I've
Speaker 3: heard a lot of really sympathetic reasoning to explain and
Speaker 3: justify the behavior that we saw. But those people stormed
Speaker 3: the capital of the country you pretend to love, and
Speaker 3: murdered someone. And I don't think it was in the
Speaker 3: news for a week. I didn't see the Blue Lives
Speaker 3: Matter of people marching upset that this officer was murdered.
Speaker 3: Because when you're part of the group that murdered the officer.
Speaker 3: You can't also march angrily against yourself for having murdered
Speaker 3: the officer. The rhetoric, the justification of things that the
Speaker 3: day before they would have argued, they would have violently
Speaker 3: argued in support of. Once they crossed that line to
Speaker 3: the other side, even if you call them out on it,
Speaker 3: you can show them the recording of them saying how
Speaker 3: boring it was when Black Lives Matter protesters were in
Speaker 3: the street, not at the capitol, not inside the capitol,
Speaker 3: not inside the speaker of the Houses office, not murdering anyone.
Speaker 2: So yeah, what we're seeing is the fact that their
Speaker 2: twenty twenty showed us that there.
Speaker 1: Was two Americas. It was on full display, as you said,
Speaker 1: for everyone.
Speaker 2: But you know, to conclude anyone who can still have
Speaker 2: their beliefs their morality, because I believe that you.
Speaker 1: Vote your beliefs, you vote your morals. Anyone who still
Speaker 1: have their morals aligned with.
Speaker 3: Some people vote fiscally. A lot of people vote fiscally
Speaker 3: or justify the lack of morals by hey, this is
Speaker 3: what was best for me and my family financially.
Speaker 4: Sure, I think you can make an argument that if
Speaker 4: you vote for if you vote fiscally, that's definitely a
Speaker 4: reflection of your morals, you know, correct to make that argument,
Speaker 4: you know, it's hard to get that off around here.
Speaker 4: I mean with me around here you probably get it off,
Speaker 4: but with me specifically, I put the responsibility always squarely
Speaker 4: in your lap.
Speaker 2: You listening to my voice. You vote for the world
Speaker 2: that you want to live in. And if you vote
Speaker 2: for Donald Trump, then you're an extension of Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: You're an extension of trump Ism and Donald Trump's impact
Speaker 2: on my life.
Speaker 1: You know, you were the conduit for it, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's not to say that we're enemies, but that
Speaker 2: is to say that you know that that's not something
Speaker 2: that we're going to pretend didn't happen.
Speaker 1: We have to have the conversation start.
Speaker 2: There, but again with the Republican Party on full display,
Speaker 2: and there their morals and individually and as a party
Speaker 2: on full display, when folks are dying in their homes
Speaker 2: and and Ted Cruz, you know, the the top dog
Speaker 2: in Texas hop in a flight to Cancom Like, man,
Speaker 2: it's a little cold around here, let me go somewhere warm.
Speaker 1: It's just a it was a bad look and order
Speaker 1: he took his family.
Speaker 3: And order the police escort.
Speaker 1: That's a bad list.
Speaker 3: Houston Police. Make sure I get to my flight safety
Speaker 3: and safely and expeditiously.
Speaker 2: Y'all hang back when I get on this plane, you know,
Speaker 2: take some secret service with me or whatever.
Speaker 1: But you know, so.
Speaker 2: You know, at the end of the day, any of
Speaker 2: those you know, moderates or Republicans listening, just know that
Speaker 2: you know, this is how the world looks, and you know,
Speaker 2: hopefully you'll find your moral center at some point and
Speaker 2: recognize it's not so bad over here, you know, come over.
Speaker 1: Here where the love is.
Speaker 5: We got so much love for you, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. Help us shape a world where everybody can
Speaker 5: be just a little bit warmer, especially our brothers and
Speaker 5: sisters in Texas. You never know here in Phoenix, we
Speaker 5: might be next, you know. So we're gonna keep preaching
Speaker 5: that love and you know, doing what we do.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if this is a hard pivot,
Speaker 2: but you know, I do want to preach a little
Speaker 2: bit more love. Folks that watch the show, you might
Speaker 2: know that I got vaccinated, fully vaccinated.
Speaker 1: Now, so I'm in the streets, mask off future.
Speaker 3: He's steal in the street mask on. But that's how
Speaker 3: he feels.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: You know, I'll be talking to people and they just
Speaker 2: talking at me and they spit missed particles be coming
Speaker 2: into my eyeballs and I'm like, yeah, run it. So
Speaker 2: gripping the gas pump, no glove, don't gotta use my
Speaker 2: shirt to open the door.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's back in the game. But you know, I thought
Speaker 2: it was important to provide an update for you know,
Speaker 2: the vaccine. If for those of you who want to
Speaker 2: check it out, it's on my social media if you
Speaker 2: look up at Rams's jaw. It's on all platforms. So
Speaker 2: if you're on Facebook or whatever, anything except I think
Speaker 2: Snapchat because it deleted. Don't don't look me up on Snapchat. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just don't. I don't ready post nothing on nerves and
Speaker 2: everything is deleted itself anyway, everything else. Look up Ramsey's
Speaker 2: job you'll be able to see. I got both my vaccinations.
Speaker 2: I got them in out here in Arizona. There's a
Speaker 2: cardinal stadium called.
Speaker 3: The University of Phoenix. Thank you you know stuff about sports.
Speaker 3: I like you you know stuff.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I went there twice and got both my vaccinations
Speaker 2: every twenty one days apart. And one thing that a
Speaker 2: lot of folks want to know about is side effects.
Speaker 2: So let's talk about side effects. I first went got
Speaker 2: my first vaccination.
Speaker 1: It was in the middle of it.
Speaker 2: I was like four am. I had to wait in
Speaker 2: a line in my car. It was very well exceptionally
Speaker 2: well organized. Just they just funnel you through. You got
Speaker 2: your your your barcode or whatever. For those who don't know,
Speaker 2: we have a Q and I have a nonprofit and
Speaker 2: we worked with homeless people and you know, at populations
Speaker 2: at risk for COVID nineteen and so we were kind
Speaker 2: of able to.
Speaker 1: Get in there, but drove through the line, got up
Speaker 1: to the front.
Speaker 2: And I'm not a person who's like really comfortable with needles.
Speaker 2: I'm not uncomfortable with them either, So I'm kind of
Speaker 2: like in the middle.
Speaker 1: I don't like them, like I'm looking forward.
Speaker 2: To it, but you know, I'm definitely aware of somebody
Speaker 2: sticking something into my body anywhere, even if it's in
Speaker 2: my mouth, you know what I mean, Like when they
Speaker 2: put the little wood like popsicle sticking.
Speaker 3: And don't even talk about the nasal test.
Speaker 1: It's wet.
Speaker 2: The vaccination I didn't even feel it the first first
Speaker 2: one I got, or the second one, I didn't feel it.
Speaker 2: It's I don't know if it's a super small needle
Speaker 2: or whatever. But they gave me the shot and it's
Speaker 2: so quick and they popped me and then we're popped
Speaker 2: like that, and then they took it back out right
Speaker 2: and I felt the pressure, but I didn't feel the pinch.
Speaker 1: Didn't feel it at all.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh man, you could see in the
Speaker 2: video like I didn't react until.
Speaker 1: I felt the pressure from the the.
Speaker 2: Like the hand, I guess or whatever it was the force,
Speaker 2: you know, but the pinch of the needle, I didn't
Speaker 2: feel it. I'm just saying that because I need people
Speaker 2: to know this. There was a lot of folks out
Speaker 2: here were very concerned about this vaccine for one reason
Speaker 2: or another. Anyway, got the first vaccine, hung out, no
Speaker 2: side effects, didn't feel a thing. I felt like a
Speaker 2: superhero because you know, I was, you know, just feeling accomplished,
Speaker 2: feeling like I was kind of toward the tail end
Speaker 2: of this season in my life of having to stay home,
Speaker 2: having to be massed up, and you know, not really
Speaker 2: being able to.
Speaker 1: Get close with folks.
Speaker 2: Waited the three weeks and then went back to get
Speaker 2: my second appointment, and if I'm honest, the second vaccine
Speaker 2: was great. Didn't feel a thing just like the first time.
Speaker 2: But the day after I got the vaccine, I had
Speaker 2: a bit of a headache. And I'm not a headache person.
Speaker 2: I don't really get a lot of head I'm not
Speaker 2: a sickly person. I don't really get sick that often.
Speaker 2: I get sick of people's mouth if you run up
Speaker 2: on me. But like, outside of that, you know, I'm fine.
Speaker 2: So that headache, I'm like, oh, you know, maybe there's
Speaker 2: a maybe there's something going on here, but you know,
Speaker 2: I laid down and took it easy, you know, And
Speaker 2: that was that. And then I want to say, maybe
Speaker 2: the day after that. So now we're two days from
Speaker 2: the vaccine. I had a bit of a running nose,
Speaker 2: I had the sniffles. Right At no point were there
Speaker 2: any aches in my body. At no point was there
Speaker 2: any you no pains or you know, I never felt
Speaker 2: like I couldn't breathe or anything like that. I had
Speaker 2: a bit of a running nose, I had a headache,
Speaker 2: neither of which I can say definitively is a side
Speaker 2: effect from the vaccine, but the timing, would you know,
Speaker 2: and I have to us yeah, and I have to
Speaker 2: be honest, but you know, in Arizona, you know, it's
Speaker 2: it's not as cold as it once was, so you know,
Speaker 2: in the daytime there's dust and there's a lot of
Speaker 2: dust out here, so you know, allergies act up, you know,
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. But you know, for the next
Speaker 2: two days, I kind of took it easy. I really
Speaker 2: didn't have a lot going on because I you know,
Speaker 2: I got my vaccine like midweek, I want to say,
Speaker 2: or whatever, so I didn't.
Speaker 1: Really have a whole lot to do or no, it
Speaker 1: was just before the weekend. That was it. And so
Speaker 1: going into the weekend, I didn't have a lot going on.
Speaker 1: So and that was that.
Speaker 2: And I think it's important to share this because you
Speaker 2: know a lot of folks that are scared of the
Speaker 2: side effects will say things like, oh man, you know,
Speaker 2: once you figure out, you know, so I didn't grow
Speaker 2: another arm.
Speaker 1: You know, there was nothing like that.
Speaker 2: And then during this time, because I'm studying it, I'm
Speaker 2: knowing that I'm gonna have to share this On the radio,
Speaker 2: I recognized, or rather I read and then recognized what
Speaker 2: was happening in my body. So what it is and
Speaker 2: the reason why we got the vaccine so quick is,
Speaker 2: once upon a time, what we had to do was
Speaker 2: create through maybe breeding is the best term or whatever,
Speaker 2: but we had to create a weakened version of a virus,
Speaker 2: and then the weakened version would be injected into our bodies,
Speaker 2: and then our bodies would learn how to fight off
Speaker 2: that weekend version, so the weekend version wouldn't kill us.
Speaker 2: And this is what happened with things like polio, and
Speaker 2: this is why it took years to develop these vaccines. Well,
Speaker 2: science and technology has advanced to the point where now
Speaker 2: we can simulate just a piece of the virus enough
Speaker 2: to give our body the instructions to fight it, and
Speaker 2: synthesize that and inject us with that. So there's no
Speaker 2: dead virus, there's no weakend virus. It's just a synthetic
Speaker 2: mRNA strand for those of you familiar with the way
Speaker 2: DNA works, you know or living the code for living
Speaker 2: creatures works. So it's a synthesized mRNA band that's injected
Speaker 2: into our body. Our body recognizes it and then tries
Speaker 2: to fight it off, right, and you know, most folks
Speaker 2: when they do have side effects, it's after the second injection.
Speaker 2: And what it is is your body is it sees
Speaker 2: this new invader. It's it's fake, it's not real. So
Speaker 2: at no point am I actually sick, right, But my
Speaker 2: body is trying to flush what it thinks is a
Speaker 2: disease from my body. Right, so I'm not not at
Speaker 2: risk at all. There's nothing going on, but my body
Speaker 2: sees it. It's like, haha, let's learn how to fight this.
Speaker 2: And so it's developing all the defenses and so forth.
Speaker 2: So my body is flushing out and this is you know,
Speaker 2: some running nose thing. My body's diverting resources to attack this.
Speaker 2: So this is why maybe there's less you know, I
Speaker 2: get a headache because my brain doesn't need these resources
Speaker 2: right now. My belly needs resources to fight off this whatever.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not sure clearly, I don't sound like
Speaker 2: a doctor or medical professional, but something like this is
Speaker 2: what happens. And so if you have side effects, that's
Speaker 2: a sign that it's working, that your body is building
Speaker 2: the immunity. Your body has recognized that there's a foreign
Speaker 2: body object in there. It's developing the defense for it.
Speaker 2: And your immune system is responding accordingly, And so I
Speaker 2: wanted to say that just so that we were all
Speaker 2: on the same page that I am a living, breathing
Speaker 2: human being. Rams's jaw right. I got both vaccines. I
Speaker 2: got video proof of it. I got my vaccine card. Okay,
Speaker 2: And if you feel so inclined, you know, I feel
Speaker 2: like you should get the vaccine.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: There's nothing the most that I could say. And I'm
Speaker 2: really stretching here, I'm really reaching. I had a bit
Speaker 2: of a headache one day and then the next day
Speaker 2: I had a bit of a running nose, you know,
Speaker 2: And I'll take that over a two week about with
Speaker 2: the coronavirus any day.
Speaker 3: Of the week. Yeah, I had that two weeks about
Speaker 3: it ain't it ain't what you want at all. And
Speaker 3: shout out to you for already having got the vaccine.
Speaker 3: My registration has been difficult enough for I've just given
Speaker 3: up multiple times. But I will see it through because
Speaker 3: I am someone who also wants to feel safer, more
Speaker 3: comfortable around my children. I am the person in the
Speaker 3: household who does sometimes have to get out here and
Speaker 3: interact with people, and having no idea how responsible or
Speaker 3: careful they are, there is always a little bit of
Speaker 3: tension and discomfort with man. I hope I'm not bringing
Speaker 3: anything home to my babies, So shouts to you for
Speaker 3: that and hopefully I will be following in your footsteps
Speaker 3: here soon. Did you get a chance to read about
Speaker 3: the experiment the monopoly experiment that I mentioned to you?
Speaker 1: Okay, start me off, So.
Speaker 3: This is another pivot. The University of California at Berkeley
Speaker 3: did a experiment using the game of Monopoly to highlight
Speaker 3: a couple of things. One thing they wanted to know
Speaker 3: is if people who had more were more likely to
Speaker 3: help or if people that had less were more likely
Speaker 3: to help others, and if it affected the way that
Speaker 3: they thought socially with regards to, you know, just doing
Speaker 3: things to help people that have less than they do
Speaker 3: or that just need help. They also wanted to see
Speaker 3: if there would be an acknowledgment of the head start
Speaker 3: that was get disparity. So to make it more clear
Speaker 3: to our listeners, they did a Monopoly game or somebody
Speaker 3: in the game that person that everyone else knows that
Speaker 3: they have an advantage. They have more money when they
Speaker 3: their turn, they roll more dice, when they pass go,
Speaker 3: they get a greater.
Speaker 2: Actually, I know what it was was one person gets
Speaker 2: to play the game by the rules, and then other
Speaker 2: people get a play. They only get to roll one dice,
Speaker 2: they only get when they pass go.
Speaker 3: No, this was like that, but it was it was.
Speaker 3: It was actually the opposite. Everybody plays by the rules.
Speaker 3: This one person has very flagrant advantages, and they're starting
Speaker 3: the game off with more money. They're rolling three dice
Speaker 3: instead of two.
Speaker 1: They feel like, yeah, when.
Speaker 3: They passed go, they get more money, and of course
Speaker 3: that person wins. But when that person wins, they give
Speaker 3: their strategy as the reason they won. In almost every case,
Speaker 3: the person that won, given every advantage, explained that they
Speaker 3: won because of themselves, the strategy to them that they used.
Speaker 3: And they also measured and paid attention to everything about
Speaker 3: the way the person behaved, how much snacks they ate,
Speaker 3: how rude or polite they were with everyone else, in
Speaker 3: more cases than you would think. And you guys can
Speaker 3: look this up. Just type in monopoly experiment University of California, Berkeley.
Speaker 1: There's a few of them, so make sure you.
Speaker 3: University of California, Burke is the one I'm speaking about specifically.
Speaker 3: And these people were less polite, more aggressive, you know,
Speaker 3: ate more of the snacks. Even like every little social
Speaker 3: cue was different, and it's a very very clear picture
Speaker 3: of what our society's capitalist system is.
Speaker 2: Like I want to add something real quick, please, I
Speaker 2: want you to I want you to keep going. The
Speaker 2: woman that created the game of Monopoly did so to
Speaker 2: illustrate how evil capitalism was.
Speaker 3: Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and then it just kind of took off.
Speaker 2: But there's never you know, like people like will put
Speaker 2: it in their bios or whatever, like you know it,
Speaker 2: don't play monopoly with me because Monopoly has started a
Speaker 2: lot of fights in my house or whatever.
Speaker 1: And it's very true.
Speaker 2: But it was originally created to illustrate the fact that
Speaker 2: capitalism it brings out the worst in people.
Speaker 3: So anyway, but yeah, so in every case, these benefits
Speaker 3: and these privileges and these head starts affected that person's sociality.
Speaker 3: I think is the word people who are more inclined
Speaker 3: to socialism, this word that they've made into a bad word.
Speaker 3: It's simply just the idea that we should all help
Speaker 3: each other, Like with something like what's happening in Houston, happens,
Speaker 3: everyone should do something to help them like that. That
Speaker 3: shouldn't be cold for anything negative, except we've created an
Speaker 3: oppressive system intentionally, right, The minority in numbers created a
Speaker 3: system to impress, to oppress almost everybody else, and then
Speaker 3: they figured out how to make the oppressed feel like
Speaker 3: a part of the oppression, a part of those that
Speaker 3: benefit from the oppression.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's a better way to say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And this experiment is such a glaring reflection of
Speaker 3: this system. I didn't even know the game was created
Speaker 3: for that reason, which makes it the perfect litmus test
Speaker 3: for this. You know, the people with those advantages and
Speaker 3: none of the cases and I'll reread this, but even
Speaker 3: if it's in most of the cases, the fact that
Speaker 3: it's in any of the cases that you know you
Speaker 3: started with the head, starting with every benefit and with
Speaker 3: every what's the word I'm looking for. You know, you
Speaker 3: started this game in a much more favorable position than
Speaker 3: everyone else, with every advantage, and to not acknowledge that
Speaker 3: as part of the reason why you're so successful should
Speaker 3: be viewed as insanity. But this is the world that
Speaker 3: we live in, more specifically the country that we live in.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what we're gonna do is at least
Speaker 1: around here. We're going to.
Speaker 3: Do our best to keep teaching what's true and what's right,
Speaker 3: and you know, keep recruiting into this army where there's
Speaker 3: a lot of love over here. You know.
Speaker 2: I just I like that, you know, and if at
Speaker 2: the end of my life, that's all I did, and
Speaker 2: that'll be more than enough for me.
Speaker 1: But I do want to tease some stuff that's coming up.
Speaker 1: Next week. We will be talking about, uh, the Last
Speaker 1: Prisoner Project.
Speaker 2: We're going to be speaking with someone from the Arizona
Speaker 2: Black Cannabis Trade Association and discussing, you know, basically the
Speaker 2: history of you know, marijuana usage and the way the
Speaker 2: criminal justice system is disproportionly effected black and brown folks
Speaker 2: and what the cannabis industry is going to be doing
Speaker 2: to kind of right those wrongs moving forward. And also
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about, uh, if we can get
Speaker 2: to it a little bit, more black history, but for now,
Speaker 2: I think that's going to do it for us here
Speaker 2: on Civic Cipher. Once again, I'm your host, Rams's Jah.
Speaker 3: They called me q Ward and that just so happens
Speaker 3: to be my actual first initial and last name.
Speaker 1: I do know if people knew that once again, the h.
Speaker 3: That is not a stage name. That's actually who I.
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Speaker 3: Y'all, peace, peace, m SU