WEBVTT - Civic Cipher 022021 Ramses Ja and Q Ward

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another episode of Civic Sidefer. I'm your host, Ramses.

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<v Speaker 2>Josh.

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<v Speaker 3>They called me q Warden. That just so happens to

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<v Speaker 3>be my name, Ramses. Going on, what up though?

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<v Speaker 1>Man, it's a it's a cold world.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a cold world.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Texas one time, but we're gonna get there.

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<v Speaker 3>Prayers up for Texas, man.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what, a lot of things in the news,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things we have to talk about. This

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<v Speaker 2>is still, of course, Black History Months, so I want

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<v Speaker 2>to get to some more Black History because we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>had a chance to do as much as I would

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<v Speaker 2>have liked so far this month.

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<v Speaker 1>But first order of business, I wanted to take a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>To discuss what's happening with our Asian brothers and sisters.

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<v Speaker 2>So I came across something this week and have a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of times in recent months that illuminated an uptick

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<v Speaker 2>in hate crimes against Asian American And one thing that

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<v Speaker 2>I recall from our time on the streets, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my era of the Civil rights movement, if you will,

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<v Speaker 2>was that out on the streets, I saw people who

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<v Speaker 2>were Native American, I saw people who were Jewish, I

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<v Speaker 2>saw people who were seek. I saw people who were

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<v Speaker 2>of course Mexican and you know, all across the board.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what else I saw.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw Asian people out there too, signs that say

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<v Speaker 2>Black Lives Matter, and they were out there supporting.

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<v Speaker 1>Our cause.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to make sure that we keep that

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<v Speaker 2>same energy when it comes time for us to support

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<v Speaker 2>our age brothers and sisters. And so, if you're listening

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<v Speaker 2>to my voice right now and you got something that

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<v Speaker 2>you need to talk about, you got some funk that

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<v Speaker 2>you want to air out, this is a space that

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<v Speaker 2>we want to share with you as well. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we rise in solidarity. We're all in this together. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I know that a lot of folks have

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<v Speaker 2>made the connection with you know, Donald Trump, the former president,

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<v Speaker 2>calling COVID nineteen the China virus uh and there being

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<v Speaker 2>an association with like hate crimes against Asian Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we the Black Delegation.

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<v Speaker 2>Hill will officially, you know, put our hat in the

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<v Speaker 2>ring or officially declare this to shared space for our.

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<v Speaker 1>Asian brothers and sisters.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to come up and talk about it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just hit the website. So if excited for

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<v Speaker 2>dot com reach out to me or Q. Let us

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<v Speaker 2>know what's going on and let's talk about it. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>have some therapy, and let's let's teach each other how

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<v Speaker 2>to be better allies. I'm not gonna forget the energy

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<v Speaker 2>that I felt out there, and so you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>is and this is what we created from that, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is an opportunity we can share that with. So

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to make sure I got that off. Another

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<v Speaker 2>thing I wanted to say was I was fortunate enough

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<v Speaker 2>this week to speak for a community college up in

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<v Speaker 2>black Staff. I was They had an event for a

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<v Speaker 2>Black History Month, and you know, they invited me to

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<v Speaker 2>come and speak and just kind of share my thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>on you know the world and you know what leadership

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<v Speaker 2>looks like when you live in black skin. And the

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<v Speaker 2>theme of my message was leading with love and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so big shout out to everybody that you know, uh

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<v Speaker 2>listened to me, you know, give my presentation to that

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<v Speaker 2>to that college. But something came up during that presentation

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<v Speaker 2>and it had to do with cancel culture. They asked,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what my take on cancel culture was, and

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<v Speaker 2>I came up with an answer that I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Was appropriate.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to just kind of share my thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>again today with respect to cancel culture. So I recognize that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, cancel culture especially you know, so on this

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<v Speaker 2>show we talk about leaving a space in the narrative

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<v Speaker 2>for there to be some forgiveness, right, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>inconsistent with the spirit of cancel culture. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't cancel someone out and forgive them at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>The two approaches are incompatible, know, and so if I

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<v Speaker 2>had to choose one, obviously I'm gonna leave some space

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<v Speaker 2>in the narrative for there to be some forgiveness. But

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<v Speaker 2>I also recognize that as the ultimate consequence, to cancel

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<v Speaker 2>someone certainly works as a deterrent for some folks, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to recognize, hey, there might be some consequences for the

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<v Speaker 2>things that I say and the things that I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that a lot of times, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>we have that mob mentality.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps it's rightfully so, but there is.

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<v Speaker 2>A mob mentality sometimes when something bad happens to someone

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone jumps on board to try to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>seek justice, immediate justice and you know, remedy the situation

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<v Speaker 2>brings some balance to the universe. But I think that

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<v Speaker 2>when the first move is to just cancel someone out.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that what we end up doing, unfortunately, is

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<v Speaker 2>creating a dividing line where Okay, you've committed this sin

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<v Speaker 2>against me, and I want nothing to do with you anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>And then whoever has committed the offense is on the

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<v Speaker 2>opposite side of a line. And you know, the easiest

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<v Speaker 2>thing for them to do is double down on why

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<v Speaker 2>they are right, as opposed to acknowledging that they made

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<v Speaker 2>a mistake. We haven't left the room in the narrative

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<v Speaker 2>for them to come back and say, listen, I made

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<v Speaker 2>a mistake. I apologize, and then you know every day

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<v Speaker 2>after that they're going to be a supporter, a cheerleader,

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<v Speaker 2>a champion for our cause. What we've done is created

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<v Speaker 2>a bona fide, long term enemy out of them by

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<v Speaker 2>canceling them. And a lot of times these folks, when

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<v Speaker 2>they get canceled, they will seek other folks that either

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<v Speaker 2>have been canceled themselves or hold an opposing view of

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<v Speaker 2>how the world should be. And then they find comfort

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<v Speaker 2>in community in these small circles, and then they're that

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<v Speaker 2>hatred and that divisiveness that tends to fester. And then

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<v Speaker 2>because their strength and numbers, they become stronger. So the

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<v Speaker 2>more people we cancel out popular culture and out of

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<v Speaker 2>our you know, work circles and out of everything, the

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<v Speaker 2>more we're creating a stronger.

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<v Speaker 1>Enemy, if you will.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I just thought it was important that that

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<v Speaker 2>be stated, because you know, I see a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>that happening, and I recognize that, you know, we only

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<v Speaker 2>have two cheeks. So when I when you got to

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<v Speaker 2>turn the other cheek, that's a that's a tall order,

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<v Speaker 2>but more often than not, it's the right thing to do,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why I turn the other cheeks sounds so

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<v Speaker 2>familiar to you. That's wisdom that's been around a lot

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<v Speaker 2>longer than Ramses has been around. But you know, I've

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<v Speaker 2>never heard anybody say turn two cheeks. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there should be some ultimate consequences. And so for folks

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<v Speaker 2>who you know very much believe that cancel culture has created.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit more mobility with respect to the cause.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that cancel culture doesn't have its place,

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<v Speaker 2>or canceling folks doesn't have its place, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>that if we relegated it to simply just the ultimate consequence,

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<v Speaker 2>that if we took some steps before we canceled, some

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<v Speaker 2>folks out that we would end up.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps creating more allies.

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<v Speaker 2>Than long term enemies. Just my thoughts, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you want to debate me, you know

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<v Speaker 2>you know where to find me again, civiccipher dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to check it out. Two things I definitely

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to get off. So yeah, and then now we

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<v Speaker 2>have to talk about big news, which is man, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like we're gonna this is gonna be a full

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<v Speaker 2>frontal on capitalism.

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<v Speaker 3>But how dare you speak against what makes this country great?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that capitalism is what makes the country great.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the things that the country does right, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I wouldn't put capitalism in that in that group.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not a how dare you well? Listen another thing

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<v Speaker 3>that I could deal against, the great capitalism that makes

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<v Speaker 3>America great.

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<v Speaker 2>Q's being funny if you haven't picked up on the sarcasm.

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<v Speaker 3>Here before and again.

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<v Speaker 2>But listen listen, just because some folks might, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>agree with what Q is joking about. The capitalism is

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<v Speaker 2>great and the ultimate decider and the force, the invisible

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<v Speaker 2>force that guides you know, all things that are true

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<v Speaker 2>and just in the world. It doesn't mean that it

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<v Speaker 2>can't be improved upon, that it can't be better. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>So for those folks who champion capitalism, who have drank

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<v Speaker 2>the kool aid, if you will, it doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 2>you can't include some ideas from communism, socialism, marxistm you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you name it, you know, because all of these ideas

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<v Speaker 2>were born out of folks trying to do better for

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<v Speaker 2>their countries.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they were trying to do something.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, granted there's a lot of corruption that happens,

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean, obviously we're seeing right now that there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of corruption in a capitalistic society too, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so there's nobody who is free of sin. And so

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<v Speaker 2>just because there are folks who are champion capitalism doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean that it cannot be improved upon. That there are

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<v Speaker 2>things that we can't pick and choose and create something

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<v Speaker 2>that's new.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>For those folks who are super all American, we can

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<v Speaker 2>call it americanalism. You know, let's just make it work

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<v Speaker 2>for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we're good.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reason we're talking about this is because, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>what we've seen in Texas and this has kind of

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<v Speaker 2>been on our minds for some time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really sad.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing is, you know, we're based in Phoenix,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have a lot of listeners in Texas too,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're based in Phoenix, and so there's a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a kinship between you know, Arizona, Texas, New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all in the Southwest, and so there's a part

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<v Speaker 2>of this that doesn't feel too distant, too far away

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<v Speaker 2>from what could happen to me in my home with

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<v Speaker 2>my family and my children. But there's a very different

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<v Speaker 2>culture that exists in Texas that is very self assured,

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<v Speaker 2>very self confident. You know, Texans just got it figured out.

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<v Speaker 2>They got it right. In the great State of Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's this attitude there.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's it's very reflective of America. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>is it.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, folks are really patriotic and they think America is

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<v Speaker 2>the best place in the world. What's that called nationalism?

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<v Speaker 2>American exceptionalism, nationalism?

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<v Speaker 1>THERETI is.

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<v Speaker 2>A similar attitude in Texas too, where you know, Texas

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<v Speaker 2>is the best and nobody can you know, no one's

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<v Speaker 2>on their level. And you know, for a lot of folks,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine, you know, that's that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>And it should you should feel that way. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that place because Texas is dope. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think that now is a great opportunity for us to

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<v Speaker 2>see the shortcomings and and the places where maybe Texas

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<v Speaker 2>is not so great. And I think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that nationalism is kind of learn that.

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<v Speaker 1>What we'll do is we'll look at the US and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the US does this great.

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<v Speaker 2>We have the biggest military, we have the you know whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>we have all the biggest companies and you know whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is that folks see and they'll ignore the shortcomings

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<v Speaker 2>because it hasn't affected them.

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<v Speaker 1>Or you know whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in Texas, that exceptionalism has caught up to them,

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<v Speaker 2>because how great is the state of Texas now? When

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<v Speaker 2>Texas can't take care of its people, when its senator

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<v Speaker 2>jumps on an airplane to go to Cancun, when folks

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<v Speaker 2>are literally freezing to death in their homes, and again

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<v Speaker 2>where we are not a far cry from that. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the reason why this is important on this program

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<v Speaker 2>is because I forget which which side of town north,

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<v Speaker 2>southeast or west, but I think it was Austin, and

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<v Speaker 2>the it will just say east. I might be wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>but the east side of Austin, Texas was like primarily

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<v Speaker 2>like black an American, that was the black side of town,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will. And that whole side of town the

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<v Speaker 2>lights are off and there's no electricity, and then there's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, electricity elsewhere. There's in the city center, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>And on the other side of town.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was Houston. Houston, was it okay? So Houston,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not Austin.

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<v Speaker 3>You had the corporations that are lit up, empty office

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<v Speaker 3>buildings lit up warm, and like you said, the community

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<v Speaker 3>where you know, black and brown people live, no power,

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<v Speaker 3>no electricity, no heat, nothing. Some of those places do

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<v Speaker 3>have gas, however, so you got people trying to heat

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<v Speaker 3>their homes with the stove. And then you have those

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<v Speaker 3>same people having to be rushed to the hospital because

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<v Speaker 3>of carbon monoxide poisoning, having to choose, you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>simpler of two ways to die, hypothermia or poison. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the choice their government is leaving them to make. Is

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<v Speaker 3>they've deregulated their power grid, and the way that the

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<v Speaker 3>citizens of that state receive power is deregulated to a

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<v Speaker 3>point where those companies are seeing mass profits now as

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<v Speaker 3>their people are dying, literally freezing to death babies. You

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<v Speaker 3>know people, you know Pita, and you know, people do

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of pretending to be outraged by the way

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<v Speaker 3>that animals are treated. They have animals too, and you

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<v Speaker 3>know those people are suffering, and they've given power to

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<v Speaker 3>private corporation to take over things like utilities. Google the

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<v Speaker 3>word utility and you'll understand why private corporations shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>in charge of that, and why should people shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>left to freeze. People who are paying their bills on time,

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<v Speaker 3>people who have always paid the bills on time, are suffering,

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<v Speaker 3>and those corporations are seeing massive profits because of shortages.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no incentive for them to swiftly act or change

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<v Speaker 3>infrastructure or do anything that's for the benefit of the

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<v Speaker 3>people that they're supposed to serve. This is for profit capitalism.

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<v Speaker 1>So another.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy part about this is that usually when stuff like

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<v Speaker 2>this happens, it tends to disproportionately affect black and brown people,

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<v Speaker 2>as black folks and brown folks make up the two

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<v Speaker 2>largest minority groups in this country and rarely do problems

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<v Speaker 2>affect white folks in the same way, which is part

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<v Speaker 2>of the reason why they show exists so that there's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a little bit of more of a voice

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the media landscape with respect to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>issues that affect you know, black folks.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting point, however, especially in a place like Texas, where

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<v Speaker 3>people you know, made a big deal at the last

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<v Speaker 3>election about the state being turned blue because it's always

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<v Speaker 3>been red. The really strange thing about the demographics of

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest cities in Texas, Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, is

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<v Speaker 3>that they're predominantly blue. It's just as is true throughout

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<v Speaker 3>the South, very very difficult to vote there. That is

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<v Speaker 3>not by mistake either, Right, So, not just the problems

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<v Speaker 3>of black and brown people, but the problems of poor

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<v Speaker 3>people across the board, Black, White, Asian, Hispanic, the problems

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<v Speaker 3>of poor people and our lack of ability to unite

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<v Speaker 3>on those fronts because of the very divisive rhetoric that's

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<v Speaker 3>been ingrained into us for hundreds of years. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 3>you have working forces upholding what benefits, upholding what benefits

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<v Speaker 3>the corporations rather than what benefits labor. The labor is

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<v Speaker 3>fighting to uphold what benefits the corporation, and instead of

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<v Speaker 3>the labor, you have poor white people that vote for

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<v Speaker 3>laws and legislation that benefits rich white people because they

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<v Speaker 3>just see themselves as white and pretended that very large

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<v Speaker 3>gap in financial equality doesn't exist. Right, So, if you

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<v Speaker 3>convince a population of people that their problems are external,

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<v Speaker 3>especially when you can point to another group of people

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<v Speaker 3>and say, only things that are holding you back are

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<v Speaker 3>those criminals over there, those people that are stealing your

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<v Speaker 3>jobs and trying to rape your wives and trying to

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<v Speaker 3>rob you and steal from you, and whatever the case,

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<v Speaker 3>those criminals over there, those people are the only things

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<v Speaker 3>that are holding you back. I know I have significantly

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<v Speaker 3>more than you, but you can do this too, if

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<v Speaker 3>you just work hard. If you just work hard, you

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<v Speaker 3>can reach the point that I'm at. I know, not

0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:10.520
<v Speaker 3>you or your grandfather or your great grandfather have ever

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<v Speaker 3>had wealth. But if you just work hard, you'll be

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<v Speaker 3>the one that gets here to where I am.

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<v Speaker 1>And you keep them out of your way, correct, you know?

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, when you speak about the problems that

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<v Speaker 3>disproportionately affect black people, those same issues disproportionately affect poor people.

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<v Speaker 3>Except when you can convince a large population of a

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<v Speaker 3>large segment of that poor population that these things that

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<v Speaker 3>are happening to them are not supposed to be happening

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<v Speaker 3>to them. However, they are supposed to be happening to

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<v Speaker 3>that group over there because they just inherently deserve it.

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<v Speaker 3>You create a divide that maintains the power, wealth and

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<v Speaker 3>control of a very very very small minority. How about that,

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<v Speaker 3>And the vast majority of people will vote, fight and

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<v Speaker 3>empower legislation, peticians and laws against their own best interest

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<v Speaker 3>in the name of uphoping, upholding this wonderful American dream

0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:12.720
<v Speaker 3>that has the best marketing strategy and the history of

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<v Speaker 3>Earth ever.

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<v Speaker 1>So, uh, you know something that I think is.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll call it interesting, is that in a place like Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>you can really get off this idea that climate change

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<v Speaker 2>is a hoax. You could have a week ago, right,

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<v Speaker 2>You have a hard time come kid off now, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because people got snow in their driveways, right, So it's

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<v Speaker 2>a little different these days. But people that don't own

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<v Speaker 2>coats because you because you live in Houston.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know the way I figure it is even

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<v Speaker 3>that idea, not to cut you off, but even the

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<v Speaker 3>idea of climate change, we used to call it very

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<v Speaker 3>flagrantly global warming. Client climate change is like the PC version, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So instead of just speaking on racism, we speak on

0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:17.520
<v Speaker 3>racial injustices, like more vanilla, more water down, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>more accepted words that don't trigger people and make them

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<v Speaker 3>feel less guilty. Well said, we can't even agree on

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<v Speaker 3>global warming, something that should be extremely nonpartisan.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we all on this planet together.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, I don't want to go down this rabbit hole.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, but that's that's what're you're goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is like the folks that think that global

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<v Speaker 2>warming is a myth perpetuated by the Chinese government to

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<v Speaker 2>hinder American industry.

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<v Speaker 3>Or perpetuated by Democrats, because you know, that's the that's

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<v Speaker 3>the easy punch to throw.

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<v Speaker 1>What we what we find out now is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's Cuba saying.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of people or maybe not a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people, but a handful of people say that who

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<v Speaker 2>made a lot of money over the years off of

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<v Speaker 2>these utilities.

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<v Speaker 1>And completely ignoring the.

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<v Speaker 2>Risks to you know, their power grid because there's no

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<v Speaker 2>fiscal incentive for them to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they've elected people who.

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<v Speaker 2>Have these bizarre views of science, the same science that

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<v Speaker 2>has produced the richness.

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<v Speaker 1>In this capitalistic society.

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<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden is not good enough when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to hey, we should probably reinforce these levees, you

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<v Speaker 2>know in Louisiana, we should probably you know, deal with

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<v Speaker 2>our power, whatever whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And that school of thinking isn't new, right, that the

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<v Speaker 3>science makes it very difficult for you to justify your

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<v Speaker 3>very very sol fish and and and and when you

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<v Speaker 3>think and operate in a way that's designed to only

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<v Speaker 3>help you, you come up with ways to try to

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<v Speaker 3>justify it because you don't want to just say I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a selfish, awful person, So you have to you have

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<v Speaker 3>to ignore very obvious truths that hit you in the face,

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<v Speaker 3>like science. It's the reason why people used to use

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<v Speaker 3>religion to justify slavery. It's the reason why people to

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<v Speaker 3>this day and for thousands of years have used religion

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<v Speaker 3>to justify war, right when even then it was just

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<v Speaker 3>we want the land and the resources that you have.

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<v Speaker 3>Our God is greater than yours, and because of that,

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<v Speaker 3>we are henceforth entitled to this area. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you convince the people that follow you we're doing the

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<v Speaker 3>work of God so that they don't feel guilty for

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<v Speaker 3>murdering and taking from people. So you and a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of these cases that choice to ignore science. It's very

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<v Speaker 3>very intentional. It's not new. We just have way more

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<v Speaker 3>information available to us now, so some of these things

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<v Speaker 3>are way more obvious. But through throughout time we've ignored

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<v Speaker 3>truths for the justification of awful acts. Right, pretending that

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<v Speaker 3>electricity isn't finite, It has to be created. They don't

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<v Speaker 3>just plug a plug into earth and power comes out, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So that very very irresponsible thing they did to deregulate

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<v Speaker 3>power in Texas so they could maximize profit. They did

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<v Speaker 3>not see this coming. But if they jump on TV,

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<v Speaker 3>then they have to be held responsible because they did that.

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<v Speaker 3>They elected the position that they're in, not the people,

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<v Speaker 3>but the people that represent them, the people that they

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<v Speaker 3>vote for, the people that they continue to vote for.

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<v Speaker 3>How about that Ted Cruz just one again.

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<v Speaker 1>Be better? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So, and he's a favorite for or they're they're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about him running for president in twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Four would not surprise me at all a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. So I don't typically jump in when Rams

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<v Speaker 3>is talking because I love listening to him talk. But

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<v Speaker 3>he keeps saying things that make a light bulb pop

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<v Speaker 3>up in my head, and I like, yo, I have

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<v Speaker 3>to say this out loud because it's painful and it's difficult,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, we try to keep the show as

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<v Speaker 3>light as possible, but man, we talk when we're not

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<v Speaker 3>on the mic about the idea that our country are.

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 3>Our fellow citizens keep providing us with very very necessary

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<v Speaker 3>things to talk about that happen to be simultaneously very

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 3>very difficult things to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know that I think that the most flagrant

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<v Speaker 2>thing of all, because okay, let's say, for instance, let's

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:58.119
<v Speaker 2>play Devil's advocate. Let's say, for instance, you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>deregulate their power grid and they just figured they got

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<v Speaker 2>it all figured out, you know, and it's Texas, so

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<v Speaker 2>they don't anticipate whatever you know, you know, the environmental

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 2>impact studies or not impact but environmental studies or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is. Whatever information they had led them to believe that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe this is an unlikely event, so this

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:26.960
<v Speaker 2>will maximize the amount of revenue and whatever. And let's

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<v Speaker 2>say that nobody has a complaint about.

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 3>That and give them that credit to ramses like, you

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<v Speaker 3>don't expect arctic winter in Houston, so we'll give them.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll give us all just like we don't expect earthquakes

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<v Speaker 3>here or hurricanes, So we'll do that.

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<v Speaker 1>What will surprise me is that.

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<v Speaker 2>The Republican Party in this country. Now it makes sense

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<v Speaker 2>that I would be critical of the Republican Party for

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. But if I just took what's happened in

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<v Speaker 1>my life in the past.

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<v Speaker 3>Year, only six months, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, and and I stacked everything up democratic versus Republican,

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't get any crazy conspiracy baby blood drinking

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:28.680
<v Speaker 2>theories from any weird websites. I like, looked at reputable

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:33.159
<v Speaker 2>news sources, associated Press to the New York Times, you know,

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.359
<v Speaker 2>the Wall Street Journal, you know what, reputable sources.

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 3>No one did some actual scholastic and academic research.

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<v Speaker 2>I've watched the interviews, and you know, and I had

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<v Speaker 2>a degree of trust in the collective uh operating in

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 2>good faith. Sure sure, and and and and the collective

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:57.159
<v Speaker 2>voice of the media you know online and written of

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<v Speaker 2>reputable sources that have been around.

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<v Speaker 1>Since before I was born.

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<v Speaker 2>In most cases, nothing that popped up online in the

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<v Speaker 2>past two three, four years, you know, nothing like that,

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<v Speaker 2>just real solid. If I just took that, and I

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 2>took everything that was true of the Republican Party and

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I stacked that against everything that was true of the

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic Party, good and bad.

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 3>And there are bad, there are good and bad from both.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, there's no way in the world, as a human

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 2>being endowed with consciousness from a Christian God, with a

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Bible that says plainly all of these ideas and all

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 2>these these these philosophies and these anecdotes and these messages,

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.959
<v Speaker 2>there's no way that I could look at the Republican

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<v Speaker 2>Party and say this is the group of folks that

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<v Speaker 2>I will align myself with morally, and I will vote

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<v Speaker 2>along these party lines.

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>It would be impossible to do it.

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 2>At no point have they even given a valiant account

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<v Speaker 2>of themselves. And that's further illustrated by the fact that

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 2>one of the foremost folks in the Republican Party at

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:22.960
<v Speaker 2>this point, the foremost names, is Ted Cruz, who.

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<v Speaker 3>Just so happens to be a senator from Texas and

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 3>of all places.

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 2>And the funny part about it is if he's literally

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 2>have people dying in their homes, it's a state of emergency.

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 2>There's no electricity in the middle of like an arctic

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 2>what is it an Arctic winter or whatever it's called.

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 3>A Once in a lifetime winter storm.

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 2>There it is okay, and he hops on a plane

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 2>to hold on. So the other day there was an

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:56.719
<v Speaker 2>impeachment trial for Donald Trump.

0:29:57.000 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 1>The trial was to ensure that Donald Trump.

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Lost his Secret Service protection so that we the taxpayers

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 2>no longer have.

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 3>To ex pension that we also have to pay for.

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 2>And he is not no longer eligible to run again

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 2>in this country. Right, And fortunately there were some Republicans

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 2>that voted to impeach him, but not enough. And you know,

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 2>I guess no one. That really didn't surprise anyone, because

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 2>we see over and over again that Republicans have no

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 2>moral ground and are very comfortable with that fact, and

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 2>the folks that support them do not require them to

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 2>have any morality whatsoever.

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 3>And that's why that's true in every form of relationship. Sure,

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 3>so I.

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Guess right now what I'm doing is I'm speaking to

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 2>any potential on the fence votes or maybe even any

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Republicans who might tune in to hear what the other

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 2>side is talking.

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 3>And this is where I say, my brother is so

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 3>much more fair and is so much better human being

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 3>than me, because the idea that anybody's on the fence

0:30:56.640 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 3>still to me just seems like a ridiculous concept.

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 2>It does.

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 3>But you know, I so in the sows far more

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 3>grace and understanding than me. And that's why he's better

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 3>as a human than I am. Because you're on the

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 3>fence steel right, like you're still trying to figure You're

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 3>still trying to figure this out.

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, watch this, watch this.

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 2>So the beginning of or I think it was the

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 2>last show that we did of twenty twenty hawd a

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 2>friend of mine come up. His name was Ian. His

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 2>name is Ian. He's still alive. So Ian came up.

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 2>And the reason I wanted Ian to come up is

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 2>because he's a small business owner. He is I think

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 2>he's a good decent person. You know, he's reasonably aware

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 2>of what's happening politically and otherwise in the world. He

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 2>is the sort of person who you would want supporting

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 2>you if you had anything to speak about that had

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 2>to do with, you know, your.

0:31:58.640 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Government, right.

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 2>And he once upon a time we were having a

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 2>conversation before Kim on the show, and he said, you

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 2>know what what I like to do is I like

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 2>to listen to a little bit of NPR when I'm

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 2>in the car. But I'm not opposed to watching a

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 2>little bit of like Fox News or something like that.

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 2>He said, He's like, I like to make sure I

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 2>have a well rounded view, and it seems like these

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 2>guys are a little bit more leaning in that way.

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 2>These guys are a little bit more leaning in this way.

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 2>But I want to make sure that I have all

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:35.719
<v Speaker 2>the information. And what I found is that, you know,

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 2>he it might be because he was talking to me

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 2>and I have a huge afro and I have brown

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 2>skin that he was he seemed like he was like,

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 2>you know what, if I take everything, I find that overall,

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 2>where I find my decisions on how I want to

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 2>feel about something, they tend to align more with the

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:00.959
<v Speaker 2>democratic way of thinking than the republic in way of thinking.

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 2>But I wouldn't call myself either, right, And I think

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 2>that's true. I don't think he said that because I'm me,

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.479
<v Speaker 2>because it's really easy, Like the truth is pretty loud,

0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 2>you know. And you know, we're all human beings from

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 2>the same creator, you know, And so yeah, I think

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 2>that largely we know how to behave. We are taught

0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 2>to behave in different ways. Because children they tend to

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 2>get along pretty good, you know, it's when they get

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 2>taught different stuff and they get older that they start

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 2>acting crazy. But the point I was making earlier was.

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 1>For those folks like Ian who maybe you know, they

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>still kind of operate in that way.

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, sometimes they want their independence, They want to

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 2>vote for this candidate sometime and that candidate the other time.

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Whatever, you know.

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 2>In this impeachment trial, Mitch McConnell, who is like the

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 2>head Senate the h and I see and the Senate

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean or HWIC I don't know

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 2>how it would describe that, but for the for the

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Senate Republicans, this guy votes to acquit Donald Trump and

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 2>immediately after voting to acquit suggests it says he didn't

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 2>suggest that he set it out right like he was

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 2>a dude, was responsible for this attack on the Capitol.

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:23.880
<v Speaker 2>And then he had this thing that he said was like,

0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:26.320
<v Speaker 2>we can't impeach someone who's left office, which is not true.

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 2>There's case precedent for that having happened in this country

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:34.920
<v Speaker 2>before for an elected position, and that was argued initially

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 2>when during the opening argument, so he was there and

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 2>heard it. Other reports that I heard from that hearing

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:43.800
<v Speaker 2>was that folks were like doodling scribbling on their phone,

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, not really paying attention.

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 3>Fifteen of the senators that voted, we're not even there

0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 3>for the opening argument, and then they got to vote

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 3>and got to vote steal. And of course we know

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 3>how they voted because they don't actually care.

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.439
<v Speaker 1>Right about what's fit like. That's the thing.

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Even if you're like yo, I however you feel, you know,

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 2>if we're gonna do something fair, you you you elect

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 2>these people to show up.

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 1>They represent your interest.

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 2>You want someone in there doing a fair job, right,

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:18.360
<v Speaker 2>do the right, do the right job. If I'm guilty

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:21.400
<v Speaker 2>and someone's gonna, you know, do their job, then I

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 2>should expect you know that that party. If I'm innocent,

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 2>I should you know what I mean, provided the person

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:31.319
<v Speaker 2>is doing their job. Anyway, these guys, like you said,

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 2>they didn't even show up. They weren't paying attention. They

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:34.840
<v Speaker 2>were just completely disconnect They knew.

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 3>They were going to vote, They made up their mind

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:39.279
<v Speaker 3>before they heard any evidence, so chose not to hear

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 3>any evidence.

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 1>And Republican voters.

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Look at this. They look at the behavior of you know,

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Mitch McConnell and these other Republicans. They look at the

0:35:56.280 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 2>behavior of just the right it's turned into this really

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 2>ugly like all the things that they think that black

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 2>people are, they're that on full display for the world,

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 2>those people, and they'll never take ownership of.

0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:13.360
<v Speaker 3>Those people storm the United States Capital, those people occupied,

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 3>They occupied the United States Capital. It's they murdered a

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 3>police officer. Hard stop.

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 1>He is no longer alive. They have to bury that man.

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm not talking about stealing out of Naci Pelosi's office,

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:35.759
<v Speaker 3>which is a federal offense, stealing from a federally owned property.

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm not talking about things that they might consider petty

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 3>and right office. Those people were just upset when we

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 3>were just upset. We weren't even they didn't want us

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:46.880
<v Speaker 3>to even be outside. But those people were just so

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:51.839
<v Speaker 3>tired of being ignored. And whatever their reasoning is, I've

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 3>heard a lot of really sympathetic reasoning to explain and

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 3>justify the behavior that we saw. But those people stormed

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 3>the capital of the country you pretend to love, and

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 3>murdered someone. And I don't think it was in the

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:10.760
<v Speaker 3>news for a week. I didn't see the Blue Lives

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 3>Matter of people marching upset that this officer was murdered.

0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 3>Because when you're part of the group that murdered the officer.

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 3>You can't also march angrily against yourself for having murdered

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:34.799
<v Speaker 3>the officer. The rhetoric, the justification of things that the

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 3>day before they would have argued, they would have violently

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:42.319
<v Speaker 3>argued in support of. Once they crossed that line to

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 3>the other side, even if you call them out on it,

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 3>you can show them the recording of them saying how

0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:53.400
<v Speaker 3>boring it was when Black Lives Matter protesters were in

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:57.440
<v Speaker 3>the street, not at the capitol, not inside the capitol,

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:05.760
<v Speaker 3>not inside the speaker of the Houses office, not murdering anyone.

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:10.120
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, what we're seeing is the fact that their

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty showed us that there.

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Was two Americas. It was on full display, as you said,

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:15.320
<v Speaker 1>for everyone.

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:20.319
<v Speaker 2>But you know, to conclude anyone who can still have

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 2>their beliefs their morality, because I believe that you.

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:26.839
<v Speaker 1>Vote your beliefs, you vote your morals. Anyone who still

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 1>have their morals aligned with.

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:34.440
<v Speaker 3>Some people vote fiscally. A lot of people vote fiscally

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:38.160
<v Speaker 3>or justify the lack of morals by hey, this is

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:40.359
<v Speaker 3>what was best for me and my family financially.

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 4>Sure, I think you can make an argument that if

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:48.920
<v Speaker 4>you vote for if you vote fiscally, that's definitely a

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:53.240
<v Speaker 4>reflection of your morals, you know, correct to make that argument,

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:56.200
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's hard to get that off around here.

0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean with me around here you probably get it off,

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:04.360
<v Speaker 4>but with me specifically, I put the responsibility always squarely

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:05.240
<v Speaker 4>in your lap.

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:09.600
<v Speaker 2>You listening to my voice. You vote for the world

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 2>that you want to live in. And if you vote

0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:15.400
<v Speaker 2>for Donald Trump, then you're an extension of Donald Trump.

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:19.840
<v Speaker 2>You're an extension of trump Ism and Donald Trump's impact

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:21.359
<v Speaker 2>on my life.

0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, you were the conduit for it, you know.

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:26.400
<v Speaker 2>And that's not to say that we're enemies, but that

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:28.960
<v Speaker 2>is to say that you know that that's not something

0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:30.320
<v Speaker 2>that we're going to pretend didn't happen.

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:32.200
<v Speaker 1>We have to have the conversation start.

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 2>There, but again with the Republican Party on full display,

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:45.240
<v Speaker 2>and there their morals and individually and as a party

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 2>on full display, when folks are dying in their homes

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:51.359
<v Speaker 2>and and Ted Cruz, you know, the the top dog

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 2>in Texas hop in a flight to Cancom Like, man,

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:56.280
<v Speaker 2>it's a little cold around here, let me go somewhere warm.

0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 1>It's just a it was a bad look and order

0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 1>he took his family.

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:01.760
<v Speaker 3>And order the police escort.

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:04.439
<v Speaker 1>That's a bad list.

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 3>Houston Police. Make sure I get to my flight safety

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:10.400
<v Speaker 3>and safely and expeditiously.

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 2>Y'all hang back when I get on this plane, you know,

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:17.240
<v Speaker 2>take some secret service with me or whatever.

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 1>But you know, so.

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, at the end of the day, any of

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 2>those you know, moderates or Republicans listening, just know that

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:32.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, this is how the world looks, and you know,

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 2>hopefully you'll find your moral center at some point and

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 2>recognize it's not so bad over here, you know, come over.

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Here where the love is.

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 5>We got so much love for you, you know what

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 5>I'm saying. Help us shape a world where everybody can

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:45.799
<v Speaker 5>be just a little bit warmer, especially our brothers and

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 5>sisters in Texas. You never know here in Phoenix, we

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:50.360
<v Speaker 5>might be next, you know. So we're gonna keep preaching

0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 5>that love and you know, doing what we do.

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if this is a hard pivot,

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 2>but you know, I do want to preach a little

0:40:57.560 --> 0:41:01.799
<v Speaker 2>bit more love. Folks that watch the show, you might

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 2>know that I got vaccinated, fully vaccinated.

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Now, so I'm in the streets, mask off future.

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 3>He's steal in the street mask on. But that's how

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 3>he feels.

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Well.

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'll be talking to people and they just

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:18.120
<v Speaker 2>talking at me and they spit missed particles be coming

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:20.360
<v Speaker 2>into my eyeballs and I'm like, yeah, run it. So

0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:24.719
<v Speaker 2>gripping the gas pump, no glove, don't gotta use my

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 2>shirt to open the door.

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:26.279
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 2>It's back in the game. But you know, I thought

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:34.279
<v Speaker 2>it was important to provide an update for you know,

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 2>the vaccine. If for those of you who want to

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 2>check it out, it's on my social media if you

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 2>look up at Rams's jaw. It's on all platforms. So

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:46.879
<v Speaker 2>if you're on Facebook or whatever, anything except I think

0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:51.799
<v Speaker 2>Snapchat because it deleted. Don't don't look me up on Snapchat. Yeah,

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.759
<v Speaker 2>just don't. I don't ready post nothing on nerves and

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:57.880
<v Speaker 2>everything is deleted itself anyway, everything else. Look up Ramsey's

0:41:57.920 --> 0:41:59.879
<v Speaker 2>job you'll be able to see. I got both my vaccinations.

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:04.240
<v Speaker 2>I got them in out here in Arizona. There's a

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 2>cardinal stadium called.

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:10.319
<v Speaker 3>The University of Phoenix. Thank you you know stuff about sports.

0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 3>I like you you know stuff.

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I went there twice and got both my vaccinations

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:20.279
<v Speaker 2>every twenty one days apart. And one thing that a

0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:22.920
<v Speaker 2>lot of folks want to know about is side effects.

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:29.359
<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about side effects. I first went got

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:30.440
<v Speaker 2>my first vaccination.

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:33.360
<v Speaker 1>It was in the middle of it.

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 2>I was like four am. I had to wait in

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 2>a line in my car. It was very well exceptionally

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.600
<v Speaker 2>well organized. Just they just funnel you through. You got

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:47.279
<v Speaker 2>your your your barcode or whatever. For those who don't know,

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 2>we have a Q and I have a nonprofit and

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 2>we worked with homeless people and you know, at populations

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 2>at risk for COVID nineteen and so we were kind

0:42:57.440 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 2>of able to.

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Get in there, but drove through the line, got up

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:04.160
<v Speaker 1>to the front.

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:07.400
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not a person who's like really comfortable with needles.

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:10.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm not uncomfortable with them either, So I'm kind of

0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:11.360
<v Speaker 2>like in the middle.

0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't like them, like I'm looking forward.

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 2>To it, but you know, I'm definitely aware of somebody

0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:19.360
<v Speaker 2>sticking something into my body anywhere, even if it's in

0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:20.640
<v Speaker 2>my mouth, you know what I mean, Like when they

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 2>put the little wood like popsicle sticking.

0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 3>And don't even talk about the nasal test.

0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:26.879
<v Speaker 1>It's wet.

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 2>The vaccination I didn't even feel it the first first

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 2>one I got, or the second one, I didn't feel it.

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:34.399
<v Speaker 2>It's I don't know if it's a super small needle

0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. But they gave me the shot and it's

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:38.440
<v Speaker 2>so quick and they popped me and then we're popped

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:40.120
<v Speaker 2>like that, and then they took it back out right

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 2>and I felt the pressure, but I didn't feel the pinch.

0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Didn't feel it at all.

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:48.000
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, oh man, you could see in the

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 2>video like I didn't react until.

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I felt the pressure from the the.

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Like the hand, I guess or whatever it was the force,

0:43:57.880 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, but the pinch of the needle, I didn't

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 2>feel it. I'm just saying that because I need people

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 2>to know this. There was a lot of folks out

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:06.279
<v Speaker 2>here were very concerned about this vaccine for one reason

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Speaker 2>or another. Anyway, got the first vaccine, hung out, no

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:15.759
<v Speaker 2>side effects, didn't feel a thing. I felt like a

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 2>superhero because you know, I was, you know, just feeling accomplished,

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 2>feeling like I was kind of toward the tail end

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:29.719
<v Speaker 2>of this season in my life of having to stay home,

0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:31.919
<v Speaker 2>having to be massed up, and you know, not really

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:32.520
<v Speaker 2>being able to.

0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Get close with folks.

0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 2>Waited the three weeks and then went back to get

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:45.239
<v Speaker 2>my second appointment, and if I'm honest, the second vaccine

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 2>was great. Didn't feel a thing just like the first time.

0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:54.360
<v Speaker 2>But the day after I got the vaccine, I had

0:44:54.480 --> 0:45:01.080
<v Speaker 2>a bit of a headache. And I'm not a headache person.

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:02.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't really get a lot of head I'm not

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:05.120
<v Speaker 2>a sickly person. I don't really get sick that often.

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:08.520
<v Speaker 2>I get sick of people's mouth if you run up

0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:11.960
<v Speaker 2>on me. But like, outside of that, you know, I'm fine.

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:14.520
<v Speaker 2>So that headache, I'm like, oh, you know, maybe there's

0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:18.279
<v Speaker 2>a maybe there's something going on here, but you know,

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:20.120
<v Speaker 2>I laid down and took it easy, you know, And

0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 2>that was that. And then I want to say, maybe

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:24.200
<v Speaker 2>the day after that. So now we're two days from

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 2>the vaccine. I had a bit of a running nose,

0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:31.520
<v Speaker 2>I had the sniffles. Right At no point were there

0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:33.919
<v Speaker 2>any aches in my body. At no point was there

0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 2>any you no pains or you know, I never felt

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:40.520
<v Speaker 2>like I couldn't breathe or anything like that. I had

0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:42.960
<v Speaker 2>a bit of a running nose, I had a headache,

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 2>neither of which I can say definitively is a side

0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:49.400
<v Speaker 2>effect from the vaccine, but the timing, would you know,

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:51.000
<v Speaker 2>and I have to us yeah, and I have to

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:53.279
<v Speaker 2>be honest, but you know, in Arizona, you know, it's

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 2>it's not as cold as it once was, so you know,

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:57.520
<v Speaker 2>in the daytime there's dust and there's a lot of

0:45:57.560 --> 0:45:59.880
<v Speaker 2>dust out here, so you know, allergies act up, you know,

0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:04.040
<v Speaker 2>that sort of stuff. But you know, for the next

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:07.759
<v Speaker 2>two days, I kind of took it easy. I really

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:09.759
<v Speaker 2>didn't have a lot going on because I you know,

0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:12.239
<v Speaker 2>I got my vaccine like midweek, I want to say,

0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:13.800
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, so I didn't.

0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Really have a whole lot to do or no, it

0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:18.319
<v Speaker 1>was just before the weekend. That was it. And so

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:20.239
<v Speaker 1>going into the weekend, I didn't have a lot going on.

0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:22.799
<v Speaker 1>So and that was that.

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's important to share this because you

0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:27.960
<v Speaker 2>know a lot of folks that are scared of the

0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:30.840
<v Speaker 2>side effects will say things like, oh man, you know,

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 2>once you figure out, you know, so I didn't grow

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:33.560
<v Speaker 2>another arm.

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:36.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, there was nothing like that.

0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 2>And then during this time, because I'm studying it, I'm

0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:40.680
<v Speaker 2>knowing that I'm gonna have to share this On the radio,

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 2>I recognized, or rather I read and then recognized what

0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 2>was happening in my body. So what it is and

0:46:48.600 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 2>the reason why we got the vaccine so quick is,

0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:55.000
<v Speaker 2>once upon a time, what we had to do was

0:46:56.480 --> 0:47:02.400
<v Speaker 2>create through maybe breeding is the best term or whatever,

0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:06.240
<v Speaker 2>but we had to create a weakened version of a virus,

0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:10.400
<v Speaker 2>and then the weakened version would be injected into our bodies,

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:12.239
<v Speaker 2>and then our bodies would learn how to fight off

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:14.600
<v Speaker 2>that weekend version, so the weekend version wouldn't kill us.

0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 2>And this is what happened with things like polio, and

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:22.279
<v Speaker 2>this is why it took years to develop these vaccines. Well,

0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:27.480
<v Speaker 2>science and technology has advanced to the point where now

0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:32.719
<v Speaker 2>we can simulate just a piece of the virus enough

0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:36.080
<v Speaker 2>to give our body the instructions to fight it, and

0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:42.560
<v Speaker 2>synthesize that and inject us with that. So there's no

0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:45.680
<v Speaker 2>dead virus, there's no weakend virus. It's just a synthetic

0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:48.839
<v Speaker 2>mRNA strand for those of you familiar with the way

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:52.920
<v Speaker 2>DNA works, you know or living the code for living

0:47:52.960 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 2>creatures works. So it's a synthesized mRNA band that's injected

0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:03.360
<v Speaker 2>into our body. Our body recognizes it and then tries

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:06.880
<v Speaker 2>to fight it off, right, and you know, most folks

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 2>when they do have side effects, it's after the second injection.

0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:15.240
<v Speaker 2>And what it is is your body is it sees

0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:19.920
<v Speaker 2>this new invader. It's it's fake, it's not real. So

0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:23.600
<v Speaker 2>at no point am I actually sick, right, But my

0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:27.279
<v Speaker 2>body is trying to flush what it thinks is a

0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:30.040
<v Speaker 2>disease from my body. Right, so I'm not not at

0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 2>risk at all. There's nothing going on, but my body

0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:35.960
<v Speaker 2>sees it. It's like, haha, let's learn how to fight this.

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:39.799
<v Speaker 2>And so it's developing all the defenses and so forth.

0:48:39.840 --> 0:48:43.200
<v Speaker 2>So my body is flushing out and this is you know,

0:48:43.400 --> 0:48:47.560
<v Speaker 2>some running nose thing. My body's diverting resources to attack this.

0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:49.759
<v Speaker 2>So this is why maybe there's less you know, I

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:52.640
<v Speaker 2>get a headache because my brain doesn't need these resources

0:48:52.680 --> 0:48:55.720
<v Speaker 2>right now. My belly needs resources to fight off this whatever.

0:48:55.719 --> 0:48:58.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm not sure clearly, I don't sound like

0:48:58.040 --> 0:49:00.440
<v Speaker 2>a doctor or medical professional, but something like this is

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:05.839
<v Speaker 2>what happens. And so if you have side effects, that's

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:11.360
<v Speaker 2>a sign that it's working, that your body is building

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:15.760
<v Speaker 2>the immunity. Your body has recognized that there's a foreign

0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 2>body object in there. It's developing the defense for it.

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 2>And your immune system is responding accordingly, And so I

0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:28.719
<v Speaker 2>wanted to say that just so that we were all

0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:30.840
<v Speaker 2>on the same page that I am a living, breathing

0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:36.440
<v Speaker 2>human being. Rams's jaw right. I got both vaccines. I

0:49:36.480 --> 0:49:39.280
<v Speaker 2>got video proof of it. I got my vaccine card. Okay,

0:49:40.840 --> 0:49:45.359
<v Speaker 2>And if you feel so inclined, you know, I feel

0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:46.839
<v Speaker 2>like you should get the vaccine.

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:47.160
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:49.960
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing the most that I could say. And I'm

0:49:50.000 --> 0:49:52.239
<v Speaker 2>really stretching here, I'm really reaching. I had a bit

0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:54.359
<v Speaker 2>of a headache one day and then the next day

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:56.520
<v Speaker 2>I had a bit of a running nose, you know,

0:49:57.760 --> 0:50:00.400
<v Speaker 2>And I'll take that over a two week about with

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:02.000
<v Speaker 2>the coronavirus any day.

0:50:01.920 --> 0:50:04.399
<v Speaker 3>Of the week. Yeah, I had that two weeks about

0:50:04.440 --> 0:50:10.080
<v Speaker 3>it ain't it ain't what you want at all. And

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:12.680
<v Speaker 3>shout out to you for already having got the vaccine.

0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:18.359
<v Speaker 3>My registration has been difficult enough for I've just given

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:22.080
<v Speaker 3>up multiple times. But I will see it through because

0:50:22.120 --> 0:50:26.520
<v Speaker 3>I am someone who also wants to feel safer, more

0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 3>comfortable around my children. I am the person in the

0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:34.840
<v Speaker 3>household who does sometimes have to get out here and

0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:37.759
<v Speaker 3>interact with people, and having no idea how responsible or

0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:40.440
<v Speaker 3>careful they are, there is always a little bit of

0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:43.360
<v Speaker 3>tension and discomfort with man. I hope I'm not bringing

0:50:43.360 --> 0:50:48.759
<v Speaker 3>anything home to my babies, So shouts to you for

0:50:48.800 --> 0:50:51.640
<v Speaker 3>that and hopefully I will be following in your footsteps

0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:56.080
<v Speaker 3>here soon. Did you get a chance to read about

0:50:56.680 --> 0:51:00.520
<v Speaker 3>the experiment the monopoly experiment that I mentioned to you?

0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:05.879
<v Speaker 1>Okay, start me off, So.

0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:13.320
<v Speaker 3>This is another pivot. The University of California at Berkeley

0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:20.320
<v Speaker 3>did a experiment using the game of Monopoly to highlight

0:51:22.360 --> 0:51:24.080
<v Speaker 3>a couple of things. One thing they wanted to know

0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:28.440
<v Speaker 3>is if people who had more were more likely to

0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:31.439
<v Speaker 3>help or if people that had less were more likely

0:51:31.520 --> 0:51:35.560
<v Speaker 3>to help others, and if it affected the way that

0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:42.160
<v Speaker 3>they thought socially with regards to, you know, just doing

0:51:42.239 --> 0:51:44.120
<v Speaker 3>things to help people that have less than they do

0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 3>or that just need help. They also wanted to see

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:53.840
<v Speaker 3>if there would be an acknowledgment of the head start

0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:57.160
<v Speaker 3>that was get disparity. So to make it more clear

0:51:57.200 --> 0:52:02.080
<v Speaker 3>to our listeners, they did a Monopoly game or somebody

0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:05.279
<v Speaker 3>in the game that person that everyone else knows that

0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:08.040
<v Speaker 3>they have an advantage. They have more money when they

0:52:08.239 --> 0:52:11.600
<v Speaker 3>their turn, they roll more dice, when they pass go,

0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:12.719
<v Speaker 3>they get a greater.

0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Actually, I know what it was was one person gets

0:52:16.000 --> 0:52:18.560
<v Speaker 2>to play the game by the rules, and then other

0:52:18.560 --> 0:52:20.680
<v Speaker 2>people get a play. They only get to roll one dice,

0:52:21.040 --> 0:52:23.120
<v Speaker 2>they only get when they pass go.

0:52:23.280 --> 0:52:25.560
<v Speaker 3>No, this was like that, but it was it was.

0:52:25.880 --> 0:52:28.880
<v Speaker 3>It was actually the opposite. Everybody plays by the rules.

0:52:28.880 --> 0:52:32.880
<v Speaker 3>This one person has very flagrant advantages, and they're starting

0:52:32.920 --> 0:52:34.879
<v Speaker 3>the game off with more money. They're rolling three dice

0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:35.440
<v Speaker 3>instead of two.

0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:36.640
<v Speaker 1>They feel like, yeah, when.

0:52:36.480 --> 0:52:41.080
<v Speaker 3>They passed go, they get more money, and of course

0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:45.839
<v Speaker 3>that person wins. But when that person wins, they give

0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:52.600
<v Speaker 3>their strategy as the reason they won. In almost every case,

0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:57.279
<v Speaker 3>the person that won, given every advantage, explained that they

0:52:57.320 --> 0:53:01.880
<v Speaker 3>won because of themselves, the strategy to them that they used.

0:53:02.680 --> 0:53:07.919
<v Speaker 3>And they also measured and paid attention to everything about

0:53:07.960 --> 0:53:10.799
<v Speaker 3>the way the person behaved, how much snacks they ate,

0:53:11.440 --> 0:53:15.160
<v Speaker 3>how rude or polite they were with everyone else, in

0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:16.960
<v Speaker 3>more cases than you would think. And you guys can

0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:20.800
<v Speaker 3>look this up. Just type in monopoly experiment University of California, Berkeley.

0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:22.440
<v Speaker 1>There's a few of them, so make sure you.

0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:25.520
<v Speaker 3>University of California, Burke is the one I'm speaking about specifically.

0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:32.239
<v Speaker 3>And these people were less polite, more aggressive, you know,

0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:36.400
<v Speaker 3>ate more of the snacks. Even like every little social

0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:43.520
<v Speaker 3>cue was different, and it's a very very clear picture

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:46.640
<v Speaker 3>of what our society's capitalist system is.

0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Like I want to add something real quick, please, I

0:53:48.680 --> 0:53:51.000
<v Speaker 2>want you to I want you to keep going. The

0:53:51.040 --> 0:53:54.440
<v Speaker 2>woman that created the game of Monopoly did so to

0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:56.920
<v Speaker 2>illustrate how evil capitalism was.

0:53:58.120 --> 0:53:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Wow, I didn't know that.

0:53:59.160 --> 0:54:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, and then it just kind of took off.

0:54:02.560 --> 0:54:05.319
<v Speaker 2>But there's never you know, like people like will put

0:54:05.360 --> 0:54:07.719
<v Speaker 2>it in their bios or whatever, like you know it,

0:54:07.719 --> 0:54:10.680
<v Speaker 2>don't play monopoly with me because Monopoly has started a

0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:12.080
<v Speaker 2>lot of fights in my house or whatever.

0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:13.839
<v Speaker 1>And it's very true.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was originally created to illustrate the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>capitalism it brings out the worst in people.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyway, but yeah, so in every case, these benefits

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<v Speaker 3>and these privileges and these head starts affected that person's sociality.

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<v Speaker 3>I think is the word people who are more inclined

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<v Speaker 3>to socialism, this word that they've made into a bad word.

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<v Speaker 3>It's simply just the idea that we should all help

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<v Speaker 3>each other, Like with something like what's happening in Houston, happens,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone should do something to help them like that. That

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't be cold for anything negative, except we've created an

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<v Speaker 3>oppressive system intentionally, right, The minority in numbers created a

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<v Speaker 3>system to impress, to oppress almost everybody else, and then

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<v Speaker 3>they figured out how to make the oppressed feel like

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<v Speaker 3>a part of the oppression, a part of those that

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<v Speaker 3>benefit from the oppression.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, that's a better way to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And this experiment is such a glaring reflection of

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<v Speaker 3>this system. I didn't even know the game was created

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<v Speaker 3>for that reason, which makes it the perfect litmus test

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<v Speaker 3>for this. You know, the people with those advantages and

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<v Speaker 3>none of the cases and I'll reread this, but even

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<v Speaker 3>if it's in most of the cases, the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>it's in any of the cases that you know you

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<v Speaker 3>started with the head, starting with every benefit and with

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<v Speaker 3>every what's the word I'm looking for. You know, you

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<v Speaker 3>started this game in a much more favorable position than

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<v Speaker 3>everyone else, with every advantage, and to not acknowledge that

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<v Speaker 3>as part of the reason why you're so successful should

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<v Speaker 3>be viewed as insanity. But this is the world that

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<v Speaker 3>we live in, more specifically the country that we live in.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what we're gonna do is at least

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<v Speaker 1>around here. We're going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Do our best to keep teaching what's true and what's right,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, keep recruiting into this army where there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of love over here. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I like that, you know, and if at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of my life, that's all I did, and

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<v Speaker 2>that'll be more than enough for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do want to tease some stuff that's coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Next week. We will be talking about, uh, the Last

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<v Speaker 1>Prisoner Project.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be speaking with someone from the Arizona

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<v Speaker 2>Black Cannabis Trade Association and discussing, you know, basically the

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<v Speaker 2>history of you know, marijuana usage and the way the

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<v Speaker 2>criminal justice system is disproportionly effected black and brown folks

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<v Speaker 2>and what the cannabis industry is going to be doing

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of right those wrongs moving forward. And also

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about, uh, if we can get

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<v Speaker 2>to it a little bit, more black history, but for now,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's going to do it for us here

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<v Speaker 2>on Civic Cipher. Once again, I'm your host, Rams's Jah.

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<v Speaker 3>They called me q Ward and that just so happens

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<v Speaker 3>to be my actual first initial and last name.

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<v Speaker 1>I do know if people knew that once again, the h.

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<v Speaker 3>That is not a stage name. That's actually who I.

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<v Speaker 2>Am, aka the official DJ for the Phoenix Suns right

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all, peace, peace, m SU