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Speaker 1: And Dan and Tye welcome back to the solid verbal
Speaker 1: boys and girls. My name is ty Hildebrand, joining me
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Speaker 1: get so caught up in what others are asking that
Speaker 1: we don't just have an opportunity to talk amongst ourselves,
Speaker 1: to really have a dialogue among friends, which I think
Speaker 1: is why a lot of people like to listen to
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Speaker 2: We're giving the verballer sphere a week off, given the
Speaker 2: verballer sphere a week off, actually two weeks off, if
Speaker 2: we're going to feel about curtain a little bit more.
Speaker 2: But you've got some questions for me, some burning questions
Speaker 2: that you've been meaning to ask me for god knows
Speaker 2: how long now, I don't know how long you've been
Speaker 2: repressed in this state.
Speaker 1: But before us, we've got a list of questions that
Speaker 1: you pondered up this week that I think you'd like
Speaker 1: to throw my direction. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I always have these questions for you, and I always
Speaker 2: forget to ask them, or there are just ways that
Speaker 2: I look at the sport in kind of a dumb way.
Speaker 2: But I like to bounce things off of you. So
Speaker 2: this is the dan Q and a week, and then
Speaker 2: next week will be the tai Q and a week,
Speaker 2: and then maybe after that we'll do some sort of
Speaker 2: drafts debriefing from a college level and process level. If
Speaker 2: that makes sense. Is that okay? That sounds delightful. Yes, Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm so glad we're on the same page. There hasn't
Speaker 2: been a ton of news. Is there any news? Did
Speaker 2: you wanted to discuss anything? I mean, we talked about
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, right.
Speaker 1: We talked about Daniel Jones, all right, now what I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about actually, and we don't have to
Speaker 1: spend too much time on this, but Tommy Stevens we
Speaker 1: did not have time to discuss on this show because
Speaker 1: of the draft and all sorts of other stuff going on.
Speaker 1: Tommy Stevens deciding that he wants to transfer out of
Speaker 1: Penn State.
Speaker 2: This is the post spring transfer. Oh, I'm not definitely
Speaker 2: starting transfer window.
Speaker 1: That is precisely what's going on. But Tommy Stevens, long
Speaker 1: thought to be perhaps the runner for the starting quarterback
Speaker 1: job up at Penn State, has a side. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna roll the dice in State College with Sean Clifford's
Speaker 1: a guy for star recruit.
Speaker 2: Is that who it's gonna be?
Speaker 1: For sure? It seems like he would be the air
Speaker 1: apparent at this point. Okay, Shan Clifford, A lot of
Speaker 1: folks were pretty high in Shan Clifford was apparently not
Speaker 1: a slam dunk that Tommy Stevens is going to get
Speaker 1: that job, So now he is keeping his options open.
Speaker 1: He's looking elsewhere. Kentucky is a school I saw popping up,
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, maybe reuniting with Joe moorehead. Don't know if
Speaker 1: either of those make a ton of sense, but hopefully
Speaker 1: it works out for him because certainly he put in
Speaker 1: his time in state college hoping to get that job
Speaker 1: and has some injuries. So yeah, we'll see. That's really
Speaker 1: the only notable thing from my end.
Speaker 2: Dabo Sweeney is everywhere. I think he threw out the
Speaker 2: first pitch in Milwaukee today, was at the Raptors game
Speaker 2: last night as we record this on a Wednesday, just
Speaker 2: playing some pickup on the court.
Speaker 1: Also, Dabo Sweeney may have purchased all of the Azores.
Speaker 2: He's doing well, doing well for himself. Actually, I'm going
Speaker 2: to use Dabbo to get into our first dan Q
Speaker 2: and a Q. He's had himself a good week though, even.
Speaker 1: That, he's had a very good week. Do I have
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Speaker 1: All right, where are we going first? And what is
Speaker 1: your first burning question for me?
Speaker 2: Okay, so first burning question is we now know that
Speaker 2: Dabo Sweeney is slash will be the richest coach in
Speaker 2: football ten years, ninety three million dollars if everything hits
Speaker 2: kind of thing in college football. But who is who
Speaker 2: do you as college football's most valuable, not richest, most
Speaker 2: valuable Power five coach, which basically to me, means which
Speaker 2: eight plus win team. Yeah, about that could most easily
Speaker 2: backslide because of geography, school commitment, the conference therein whatever
Speaker 2: into consistently a not bowl team if they were to
Speaker 2: leave and be replaced by the most average college football coach. Also,
Speaker 2: who's the most average college football active Power five college
Speaker 2: football coach?
Speaker 1: The most average Power five college football coach is something
Speaker 1: that we did discuss on g chat and how would
Speaker 1: you interpret that by we? We can't bring that up momentarily.
Speaker 1: I don't want to bury the lead though. Let me, okay,
Speaker 1: try to answer that question.
Speaker 2: Who is the most valuable who gives their team three
Speaker 2: to four wins because of how well they hire and
Speaker 2: strategize and raise money and recruit and adjust and interact
Speaker 2: with their players keep their players from transferring to that
Speaker 2: kind of thing. Who do you think over time is
Speaker 2: that value?
Speaker 1: All right? Well, two names that jump off the page
Speaker 1: at me, okay, I think the best answer is Kyle
Speaker 1: Whittingham at Utah. He has that's pretty good.
Speaker 2: There's a good talent in Youutah.
Speaker 1: About Yeah, third longest tenure in FBS, behind the immortal
Speaker 1: Kirk Farence and Gary Patterson. He is one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty and sixty one overall at Utah and most importantly
Speaker 1: eleven in two in bowl games. So he is a
Speaker 1: guy who we joke about it every year, but Utah
Speaker 1: finds a way to win eight or nine games and
Speaker 1: don't ever see it coming. But by and large he's
Speaker 1: going to do that.
Speaker 2: So Mountain West school that makes the leap and seems
Speaker 2: to become even more consistent, though they're not winning eleven
Speaker 2: a year like they were at the end of the
Speaker 2: Mountain West tenure.
Speaker 1: Correct, So Whittingham is is I think choice A. Choice
Speaker 1: B might be Pat Fitzgerald. He's an interesting selection here,
Speaker 1: kind of in the same vein as isilewaing him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that. I mean, there is much more
Speaker 2: institutional support now than when he showed up, and he's
Speaker 2: a large reason why.
Speaker 1: You could very much make a case that if it's
Speaker 1: not Pat Fitzgerald coaching at Northwestern, they backslide into being
Speaker 1: a non bowl team and then the final one, even
Speaker 1: though he doesn't quite have the tenure of the previous two.
Speaker 1: Matt Campbell at Iowa's great answer, Matt Campbell at Iowa State.
Speaker 1: He's got to eight wins if he's not at Iowa State,
Speaker 1: Iowa States, not going five hundred.
Speaker 2: If we were on family feud right now and I
Speaker 2: were standing next to you, I had good answer, good answer, Good.
Speaker 2: They really do encourage you to do that, I would
Speaker 2: add David Shaw. I thought about Shaw. There is something
Speaker 2: so maddeningly consistent about what he's done at Stanford, where
Speaker 2: the down years are eight nine wins, and even though
Speaker 2: Harbob before him had equal, if not greater success and
Speaker 2: was the one to pull them out, we know the
Speaker 2: depths of Stanford. We know the challenge of putting together
Speaker 2: a roster of eighty five players who meet academic requirements.
Speaker 2: They're not. They have to recruit nationally. You know, We've
Speaker 2: seen David shago all over the country Virginia, Georgia, Texas
Speaker 2: to get these enormously successful players, developed them into NFL players.
Speaker 2: Deal with the fact that a lot of times he
Speaker 2: can't seek commitments while everybody else can because they're waiting
Speaker 2: for grades. A lot of these guys are are borderline
Speaker 2: to get into the school, and so I think that
Speaker 2: kind of thing could cause panic. And the fact that
Speaker 2: David Shaw has not only kept up the success but
Speaker 2: has just secured an unbelievable program for Stanford is I
Speaker 2: think he's right there in terms of value.
Speaker 1: What's interesting about him relative to Harball. Harbaugh came in
Speaker 1: and built that program or at least laid the foundation
Speaker 1: for that program from the ground up since David Shaw
Speaker 1: took over because of those academic requirements, that added layer
Speaker 1: of complexity at Stanford. I don't want to say that
Speaker 1: he's been elitist. I don't mean that he is definitely
Speaker 1: those steered into a vague elitism that comes along.
Speaker 2: With their academic Ted talk. Yeah that, Yeah, he's.
Speaker 1: Done the ted talk. He is steered into that quality
Speaker 1: of Stanford football and Stanford as a whole at has
Speaker 1: actually been quite impressive. He is not at all shied
Speaker 1: away from some of their institutional requirements, and you could
Speaker 1: make a real strong case for him making that program
Speaker 1: better because of it.
Speaker 2: And think about all of the top flight assistants that
Speaker 2: you know have you know, Mike Sandford and Derek Mason
Speaker 2: have gone on to be head coaches or top coordin
Speaker 2: at Lance Anderson, guys that have gone on to success
Speaker 2: that he has replaced with. I mean, I think Tavita
Speaker 2: Pritchard is their new offensive coordinator so he trusts a
Speaker 2: younger generation. There's a lot to love about how he's
Speaker 2: kept them not just afloat, but but thriving. Even Derek
Speaker 2: Mason is in that conversation that Vanderbilt is a consistent
Speaker 2: bowl team. I know, playing for non conference games sort
Speaker 2: of bolster a lot of these value coaches. Mark Stoops,
Speaker 2: I think has to be because of where we've seen Kentucky.
Speaker 2: You know the depths they fell to with Joker Phillips.
Speaker 1: If Kentucky's not in the SEC, he's probably turning in
Speaker 1: a better win loss record.
Speaker 2: I would probably submit Mike Leach and Washington State has
Speaker 2: had a pretty good history of relative success. But we
Speaker 2: do know that it's easy for Wazoo with an underwhelming hire,
Speaker 2: let alone an average higher for things to go wrong
Speaker 2: if everything else in the Pac twelve is pretty competitive.
Speaker 2: So the fact that he has them at eight nine wins,
Speaker 2: I think, all right, that's crazy impressive. So I think
Speaker 2: that's where the value is.
Speaker 1: A lot of valuable coaches. Now onto more pressing matters. Yes,
Speaker 1: college football's most average coach.
Speaker 2: Okay, how do you interpret that statement?
Speaker 1: You need to consistently feel the team that is good
Speaker 1: enough to maybe pull an upset but also bad enough
Speaker 1: to lose to a team that you never really.
Speaker 2: Should Right, there's a certain degree of competence that like, yes,
Speaker 2: there are definitely strings of disappointing games, but at the
Speaker 2: same time you show flashes, we're like, oh, well, somebody
Speaker 2: in this or organization, probably him, at times, knows what
Speaker 2: they're doing, right, And so I don't necessarily think they
Speaker 2: have to be a five hundred coach because sometimes schools
Speaker 2: like Derek Mason has done a pretty good job at
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt and they're kind of at five hundred, and that's
Speaker 2: fine for Vanderbilt. I don't think that makes some average.
Speaker 1: No, the record does not make an average coach. But
Speaker 1: a record that's around average with the other prerequisites, right,
Speaker 1: is a cherry on top.
Speaker 2: So, like, would you say Jeff Brahm is an average coach?
Speaker 2: I think he's above average.
Speaker 1: He's above a coach, and he's above ever run around
Speaker 1: five hundred these past couple of years. Okay, So what
Speaker 1: I'm looking at here is a coach who has had
Speaker 1: some big moments mixed in over the last four seasons.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: But there was also a quarterback situation about two years
Speaker 1: ago which was not one of those bright spots at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and definitely gave us cause for pause our celebrity charity. Yep.
Speaker 1: This gentleman is twenty twenty eight and twenty four in
Speaker 1: four seasons. He has two eight and five records, as
Speaker 1: well as two five and seven records, Okay, his last
Speaker 1: two seasons. I think we came to a unanimous agreement
Speaker 1: that college football's absolute average coach absolute average is Pat
Speaker 1: Nardozy at Pitt.
Speaker 2: I think that's right. I think it's Pat Nardoozi NARDUTSI.
Speaker 1: Every coach, if we are going to argue on the
Speaker 1: scale of average or not average, needs to be graded
Speaker 1: against Pat Nardoozi, at least in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: I think it's the louder. The exhale is before a
Speaker 2: fan reacts to the question, how how is your coach? So,
Speaker 2: if you ask a Pitt fan, a random array of
Speaker 2: Pit fans, what do you guys think of Nardoozi, I
Speaker 2: think that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think they they start with a. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: all right. I think there's that exhale. The other coach
Speaker 2: that I think is in that category of meeting expectations
Speaker 2: thirty seven percent of the time. I think it's Kevin Someone. Okay,
Speaker 2: I think Kevin Someone. He was the proto bram In
Speaker 2: that oh my god, look what he's doing right away,
Speaker 2: and oh are we going to lose him? And then
Speaker 2: he just sort of settled into underachieving but not completely
Speaker 2: like they would always go eight in five. Right, that's
Speaker 2: not a disaster. No matter where you are, that's not
Speaker 2: a disaster. Even if Alabama started going eight and five,
Speaker 2: that's not Okay, maybe at Albata, but at text A
Speaker 2: and M going eight and five is not, you know,
Speaker 2: an emergency, right, So I understand getting tired of it
Speaker 2: moving on and there are other issues obviously, but I
Speaker 2: think a patent ardoozi Kevin Someone. I don't know why
Speaker 2: I keep thinking about Purdue and Jeff Brom. I guess
Speaker 2: because Kevin Someone went there. Is there anybody else to you?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Is Will must Champ? He might be an average coach.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: He might be a very average coach, like he did
Speaker 2: touch his surface at Florida Way where they win the secs,
Speaker 2: they get to a kind of big bowl game. All right,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to is there who's the most average PAC
Speaker 2: twelve coach? Is it Clay Hilton.
Speaker 1: It's probably got to be Clay Hilton.
Speaker 2: He's underwhelmed, he's overachieved, he's recruited all you know, to
Speaker 2: be expected with the USC replacement level. Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: it's Clay Helton. And the funny thing about both Helton
Speaker 2: and Nardoozi, they're both in my Hudson News all stars
Speaker 2: of You would never recognize them if they were buying
Speaker 2: mints and an issue of variety in a Hudson News.
Speaker 1: You would never recognize Clay Heilton without a hat on. No,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, no, he could have Harry could have
Speaker 1: a mohawk. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: Okay, Ty, you're a Notre Dame fan and I guess
Speaker 2: a lesser extent Penn State fan. And the reasons that
Speaker 2: you you are Notre Dame in a Notre Dame fan
Speaker 2: and a Penn State fan. You were born in the
Speaker 2: Northeast Ish, I guess do consider the Allentown area northeast.
Speaker 1: This is the northeast.
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, you're born in the northeast. Family's Catholic. You
Speaker 2: attended the college in your state, the state college, and
Speaker 2: so therefore you have Notre Dame and Penn State loyalty,
Speaker 2: your family. You were born into a Notre Dame family,
Speaker 2: and thus you were fans of these teams. You didn't
Speaker 2: really choose, You chose to go along with it, that's right.
Speaker 2: But if you had an open choice, and I was
Speaker 2: inspired by I have some friends who went to medical
Speaker 2: school and they do like the matching program. Are you
Speaker 2: familiar with this?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure?
Speaker 2: Okay, So basically, if an app existed, an objective app
Speaker 2: on your phone, a computer, whatever, and it took into
Speaker 2: account a program's general esthetic, the existing fan stereotypes, fair
Speaker 2: or not, and everything about your personality as a college
Speaker 2: and just as a human. What school do you think
Speaker 2: the program would match you?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: Like, wow, who are your people? Because if we're talking stereotypes,
Speaker 2: there's it's it's you're not old, you're not sort of
Speaker 2: tired in the Notre Dame stereotype. E.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean we're getting there, but no, you're getting there.
Speaker 2: You're not. You don't you're not dripping in tradition with
Speaker 2: everything you do. No, you don't complain that things are
Speaker 2: not traditional enough. And with Penn State, there's an aggression
Speaker 2: there that I don't think you would habit stereotypically, So
Speaker 2: in your mind, who's your match?
Speaker 1: This is an excellent question. Thank you when you when
Speaker 1: you sent this one to me. This was one of
Speaker 1: those one of those deals where I sat back in
Speaker 1: my chair and was like whoa, Oh okay. I went
Speaker 1: back through the rolodex. I pulled out my Myers Briggs
Speaker 1: personality type results, just to really get a good gauge
Speaker 1: on what options we're looking at here. My Myers Briggs
Speaker 1: personality type is e NTP. Now, if you're not familiar
Speaker 1: with Meyers, not at all. It's it's a personality test.
Speaker 1: There have been articles written about it. It may or
Speaker 1: may not be accurate. Chances are it's not, but the
Speaker 1: answers it gives are at least intriguing. It's a source
Speaker 1: of much debate, but good conversation. E NTP says that
Speaker 1: I am an extrovert. Surprise, surprise, that makes sense, that
Speaker 1: relies on intuition. I think instead of sense, and I
Speaker 1: perceive instead of judge.
Speaker 2: You're more mellow, yeap more mellow.
Speaker 1: Here is what according to our friends over at ZIP recruiter,
Speaker 1: the best careers for me would be okay.
Speaker 2: So you're going to try to as an empt or
Speaker 2: whatever you are you're going to try to match the
Speaker 2: I'm going to.
Speaker 1: Try to man it at the college football program, right
Speaker 1: all right? So number one it says I would be
Speaker 1: good at being a stockbroker. M let's talk to you.
Speaker 1: I have picked some winners in my day, Okay, other
Speaker 1: ones on here. An engineer, a lawyer, an operations manager okay,
Speaker 1: a relationship manager, a film producer, a PR specialist, and
Speaker 1: a training manager. Those are my eight careers, according to
Speaker 1: ZIP recruiter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that you're a Big ten school.
Speaker 2: I would say that you are. I would put you
Speaker 2: as like a Michigan man. Probably.
Speaker 1: I was thinking Ohio State, Michigan is probably.
Speaker 2: Now I think I think you're much more Michigan. There's
Speaker 2: something that there's something that is kind of urban about Michigan.
Speaker 2: I think that's the answer for you. How about I
Speaker 2: think I'm a natural Colorado buffalo Colorado one hundred percent
Speaker 2: for you. I think I'm a natural Colorado Buffalo where
Speaker 2: I'm more laid back by there is something that is
Speaker 2: inherently like when I think about Michael Dyer's arm that
Speaker 2: I you know, Colorado in glory days and you know,
Speaker 2: trying to sort of stay stay optimistic, but also get
Speaker 2: stay in the past a little bit, and I think
Speaker 2: Colorado outdoorsy, still pretty mellow. I think I'm a natural
Speaker 2: Colorado Buffalo.
Speaker 1: I will go along with that. You've said that for
Speaker 1: a long time too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, okay, Next question, ty Oh, I like this
Speaker 2: one a lot. What are the best examples of a
Speaker 2: coach having a you know what this this? Ain't it
Speaker 2: sort of about face when he ditches his preferred way
Speaker 2: of playing, where it's like, this is this is how
Speaker 2: I like to do things, but it's clearly not working.
Speaker 2: Let's make this shift, is it? Because I love when
Speaker 2: that happens.
Speaker 1: Isn't this your entire hot take to a much greater
Speaker 1: degree about what's going to go on with Chip Kelly
Speaker 1: and UCLA after this season?
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's partially on field, partially off, partially
Speaker 2: off field, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some degree, right, you're you're you're kind of going
Speaker 1: I think this to the extreme. With Chip Kelly, you
Speaker 1: think I.
Speaker 2: Think that might be more about his recruiting, like his
Speaker 2: his strategy behind the scenes. I think needs to be evolving,
Speaker 2: and I don't think it has yet. I trust him,
Speaker 2: just implicitly without with regard to getting things done on
Speaker 2: the field. So okay, I think so. My answer would
Speaker 2: probably be like Gary Patterson, right, and the shifts that
Speaker 2: he made on offense, especially when things weren't working a
Speaker 2: little bit into their Big twelve tenure. After they did
Speaker 2: have a ton of success, success with Justin foh And
Speaker 2: and going to the Rose Bowl, winning the Rose Bowl
Speaker 2: and when he went to Sonny Comby and Doug Meatchum,
Speaker 2: I thought that was huge. Willie Taggert sort of tagger
Speaker 2: wrapping the Yeah, the harball West Coast offense at South
Speaker 2: Florida and going to the Gulf Coast thing that worked
Speaker 2: really well. Marlon Mack was tearing everybody up, by the way.
Speaker 1: Will mush Champs seeing the light was one of our
Speaker 1: fantasy selections.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they definitely improved on offense this past year.
Speaker 1: I think Will mush Champ is another name.
Speaker 2: He hired some duds early at Florida. Oh biguh. The
Speaker 2: Kurt Roper and Charlie Weiss not great.
Speaker 1: Dabo Sweeney sort of did this right out of the
Speaker 1: shoot before he was even a head coach. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: now he gets paid more than Davy Crockett. There's value
Speaker 1: in being self aware. If you can pull this off.
Speaker 1: It also kind of feels like Gus Malshan is executing
Speaker 1: an inverted version that was.
Speaker 2: E gonna say this is it, so let's change it.
Speaker 1: It feels like he is going in the opposite direction
Speaker 1: in deciding to take over the play calling duties for
Speaker 1: this coming year.
Speaker 2: Kiring Kevin Steele. I thought was great. Oh yeah, it
Speaker 2: was just offensively correct. Okay, some names there, interesting discussion. Yes,
Speaker 2: by all means any of these questions. By the way,
Speaker 2: if you have an answer, please submit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hit us up.
Speaker 2: All right. I like this question a lot because this
Speaker 2: is sort of evergreen. So because we're always gonna have
Speaker 2: conversation about conference strength quote unquote strength. It's that's just
Speaker 2: a reality. So do you tie? Do you prefer the
Speaker 2: season long product of a conference with a clear top
Speaker 2: heavy hierarchy, so like two or four teams that are
Speaker 2: clearly above and beyond everybody else, and that everybody else
Speaker 2: is a mix of competent, incompetent, terrible sometimes okay, whatever,
Speaker 2: but you have your you have your ruling class, or
Speaker 2: do you like that wide open? Everybody's competent, everybody's pretty good.
Speaker 2: You know, teams aren't go to shoot themselves in the foot.
Speaker 2: You know there's talent, you know there's quarterback play, you
Speaker 2: know there's organization on defense. But you're never going to
Speaker 2: have the energy and hype of Oh wow. In two
Speaker 2: weeks we have Lsubama, Oh my god, Florida State, Clemson,
Speaker 2: Oh boy, here comes Michigan, Ohio State, oh Man, usc Oregon.
Speaker 2: Which do you prefer. Do you like having that isolated
Speaker 2: hype and the energy that comes with those games of
Speaker 2: the century of the universe, or do you want wild West?
Speaker 2: Whatever happens happens. Oh boy, I'm seeing something on the
Speaker 2: ESPN bottom line that I did not expect. North Carolina
Speaker 2: is beating up on whoever Florida State got to get there.
Speaker 2: Didn't expect that.
Speaker 1: Well, what's interesting about this, Dan?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: You can make a really good case that the ACC
Speaker 1: is both The.
Speaker 2: ACC is everything, the ACC is an annual buffet. The
Speaker 2: ACC really is both of these wrapped into one. Well
Speaker 2: you're really asking me, though, is if I prefer the
Speaker 2: PAC twelve or any conference that isn't the PAC twelve. Well,
Speaker 2: I not this iteration of the PAC twelve. I don't
Speaker 2: know who the hierarchy is. Washington's Okay, issue.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm saying there is no hierarchy.
Speaker 2: Rick, but I would argue there's not top to bottom confidence.
Speaker 1: That is also a fair point. I'm going with the
Speaker 1: top tier that keeps things interesting. Okay, I don't care
Speaker 1: so much if the only thing on the line is
Speaker 1: a birth to the Holiday Bowl, and I love the
Speaker 1: Holiday Bowl. You want stakes, I want stakes. I want
Speaker 1: the Game of the century, right, I want a little
Speaker 1: bit more flavor to the games that I'm watching. I'm
Speaker 1: coming at this from the perspective of I'm sure like
Speaker 1: many college football fans who listen to this show, my
Speaker 1: team is Notre Dame mm hm. My team also Team
Speaker 1: B if you want to call it. That's Penn State.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: The overwhelming majority of the games that I'm watching on
Speaker 1: a college football Saturday feature neither. So you got to
Speaker 1: give me a reason to watch. I've got the built
Speaker 1: in reason of the podcast. But if I'm not watching
Speaker 1: from the podcast perspective, if I just want to be
Speaker 1: a fan, I want a reason to watch that game.
Speaker 1: Why am I sitting aside three or four hours? You
Speaker 1: got to give me some meaning here, so correct give
Speaker 1: me option A two to four teams clearly head and
Speaker 1: shoulders above the rest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had was it twenty seventeen, twenty sixteen, The
Speaker 2: Big Ten did a really good job of having interesting,
Speaker 2: really good teams. The top that would have been what
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan State. Michigan had a down
Speaker 2: year a couple of years ago, but Wisconsin had a
Speaker 2: what were they twelve and one? Thirteen and one. Northwestern
Speaker 2: finished with ten wins, so there was at least that
Speaker 2: element at the top. Though week to week you still
Speaker 2: had a terrible Rutgers Maryland. I think Indiana was not great,
Speaker 2: Illinois was awful, and so that I think you need
Speaker 2: a higher floor than what the Big ten did a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago. I think I liked the wild
Speaker 2: Wild West thing. As my interest in the national championship,
Speaker 2: I need more than Holiday Bowl stakes. Although Ty, don't
Speaker 2: be smirched the Holiday Bowl. The Holiday Bowl rules. It's outstanding.
Speaker 2: You get to go to San Diego in late December.
Speaker 1: No, it's it's good. It's good.
Speaker 2: During bowl season, does the stadium randomly get flooded?
Speaker 1: Yes? Possibly sometimes it can sometimes happen. Yeah, I love
Speaker 1: it during bowl season. During the regular season, it is
Speaker 1: not the crown jewel I am interested in.
Speaker 2: I think I used to have an old bit on
Speaker 2: one of the video things that I used to do,
Speaker 2: like the minor key cart the road to the road
Speaker 2: to the minikey car Cairbowl, and you don't want that.
Speaker 2: You don't want that. But where the SEC has been
Speaker 2: recently I think is interesting with in terms of at
Speaker 2: the top could potentially beat everybody, maybe outside of Alabama
Speaker 2: with the Mississippi school Mississippi schools rising up, with Georgia
Speaker 2: and Florida and you know, Kentucky coming up into a
Speaker 2: really fun place at least defensively, I think they've gotten
Speaker 2: to a pretty decent place where the bottom hasn't been
Speaker 2: awful awful Outside of Arkansas, I don't think the SEC
Speaker 2: has had the a Kansas Rutgers, Oregon State, Illinois situation
Speaker 2: in the same way. So I at least like that
Speaker 2: the ACC is in a bad place right now? Would
Speaker 2: you agree? Not at the top? But well no, I
Speaker 2: think they're in a bad place at the top.
Speaker 1: Well, they've got Clemson, Dan.
Speaker 2: They've got Clemson. But that's I didn't say one good
Speaker 2: team right well, I said I want two, three, four.
Speaker 1: Dare I say Florida State is going to be Florida
Speaker 1: State before we.
Speaker 2: Would dare to say that, because that's a dumb thing
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 1: Right now?
Speaker 2: Who who right now are you? If you are taking
Speaker 2: out a red pen a red SHARPI you're like, I
Speaker 2: can't wait for Clemson and blahbaty blah. Who is your
Speaker 2: blobberdy blah.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Miami maybe eventually eventually, uh, Virginia Tech,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You can't write maybe eventually on the side now I
Speaker 2: know because I am not seeing that, like I like that.
Speaker 2: Clemson's going to carry it home. So that's that's a
Speaker 2: light pencil circle this year. But right now, I think
Speaker 2: the ACC is in a bad place.
Speaker 1: All right, Hot takes.
Speaker 2: Tie. I host a podcast called sports Wars. I need
Speaker 2: some sports wars in the ACC. Where are we going next?
Speaker 2: Next question? Let's stay in that general region. So last
Speaker 2: year South Carolina went through the middle part of their schedule,
Speaker 2: so like late September or October, early November, whatever. There
Speaker 2: were five games there. They played, not the best, not
Speaker 2: the worst teams on their schedule. So this was not
Speaker 2: early season dumping. This was not Clemson late, who actually
Speaker 2: played pretty well against and each of those games on
Speaker 2: average was decided by a field goal something like three
Speaker 2: point one or three point two points. And we used
Speaker 2: to refer to them as or we did refer to
Speaker 2: them as they were like the most competitive team. They
Speaker 2: were in so many games late we were like, well,
Speaker 2: they're not going away and they're not really good enough
Speaker 2: to put away these teams that are pretty good. So
Speaker 2: they're just competitive. And these were decent enough teams Missouri
Speaker 2: and Florida, teams like that. So this year when you
Speaker 2: look ahead and I think by the way the net
Speaker 2: point per drive scored and allowed like netted out to
Speaker 2: like point oh two, it worked out really really well
Speaker 2: in South Carolina. So when you look at the twenty
Speaker 2: nineteen season, who strikes you? And this, I guess is
Speaker 2: in the same vein as the most average coach, But
Speaker 2: who is the team that they're They're pretty good, They're
Speaker 2: just not pretty or good, They're just they're aggressively competent
Speaker 2: and competitive.
Speaker 1: I think the answer is Iowa.
Speaker 2: They're going to be in every game. We've got really
Speaker 2: strong line in coming back on both sides. Okay, Nate Stanley.
Speaker 1: Lose two tight ends, but Nate Stanley I love, we love.
Speaker 1: I think the answer is Iowa here.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. I think it's Northwestern. I think that
Speaker 2: we both went Big ten. Yeah, we're going Big ten.
Speaker 2: I think Missouri is an interesting answer. Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: they're especially they gave Georgia trouble last year. It was
Speaker 2: a game at halftime. I don't know of anybody that
Speaker 2: I would take right now. Cal's a half team, and
Speaker 2: I don't like taking a half team. Like their defense
Speaker 2: is going to keep them in it, but their offense
Speaker 2: is going to sort of keep them out of a
Speaker 2: bunch of games. They were too lopsided last year. They'd
Speaker 2: win a game fifteen to ten, but then they'd lose
Speaker 2: a game like thirty seven to seven. So I'm not
Speaker 2: down with Cal there in the Big twelve. I think
Speaker 2: man Iowa States had some blowouts, but I think they
Speaker 2: have gotten to a point where it's going to be
Speaker 2: hard to comfortably beat Iowa State. We saw Oklahoma struggle
Speaker 2: these past couple of years, going one and one. Last
Speaker 2: Keen Butler had his way with some some Oklahoma dbs.
Speaker 2: So I think Iowa State's a pretty good answer there.
Speaker 2: That they're just aggressively competent, which like we mentioned earlier
Speaker 2: step in the perfect direction for the Clones. I think it's,
Speaker 2: by the wayate the Nate Stanley thing. I'm going to
Speaker 2: load a list up right now. But I was talking
Speaker 2: about this with our pal Andy Staples before we did
Speaker 2: the SI Live half night party thing that we did
Speaker 2: before the or during the first round. Who is twenty
Speaker 2: twenty Daniel Jones? Who is the quarterback? Why do you
Speaker 2: keep bringing up Daniel Jones?
Speaker 1: Sorry?
Speaker 2: I know you are you? Are you still a Giants fan?
Speaker 1: Barely?
Speaker 2: Okay? Who is the twenty twenty quarterback that college fans
Speaker 2: will look at as like that guy.
Speaker 1: Him?
Speaker 2: Who is that guy?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: I'll give you you know who? Andy's answer was, who
Speaker 2: Felipe Franks? Oh man, that's a good, big arm, great
Speaker 2: physical tools, athletic. I think Nate Stanley's on the list, man,
Speaker 2: you know who? I think somebody could talk themselves into
Speaker 2: because I love Jake from I've liked them since day one, right,
Speaker 2: I think people are going Jacob easonon.
Speaker 1: Eason's one that jumps out at me.
Speaker 2: He jumps out at like he's going to make some
Speaker 2: wow throws if he wins the starting job.
Speaker 1: He's a starter.
Speaker 2: He'll make some crazy throws and he'll finish seventh. He'll
Speaker 2: be the seventh or eighth most efficient PAC twelfth quarterback.
Speaker 2: And somebody's gonna talk themselves into Jacobson because the measurables
Speaker 2: Nate Stanley I think is that conversation. I think he's
Speaker 2: pretty good. I just wouldn't take him in the first round.
Speaker 1: I guess right now if I'm picking Jake Eason is
Speaker 1: interesting to me. Oh, man, I need no time with
Speaker 1: this one, though.
Speaker 2: Well, Brian Lawurki looking at his efficiency metrics from twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: Man, you can't. You can't shine twenty eighteen, though.
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones was there for a long time and had
Speaker 2: a lot of duds and went number six. All right,
Speaker 2: next question me, the next question. Okay, ooh, this one's
Speaker 2: pretty good. Let's say you're a shady. I don't think
Speaker 2: you'll ever get to this point, but let's say you're
Speaker 2: a sort of shady in the shadows. Super wealthy fan Okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: not a booster officially, but you're no stranger to facilitating
Speaker 2: under the table payments.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I like blue chip recruits. Yeah, you're a bag man.
Speaker 2: I like sorts and let's say for the point of
Speaker 2: this exercise, all things are pretty even in terms of
Speaker 2: what your team needs. So aside from quarterback, if you
Speaker 2: and yours are giving yourself a budget of eight hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars one point two million, four hundred
Speaker 2: and eighteen thousand dollars, you give yourself a budget that
Speaker 2: you're going to contribute to helping to pay out whatever families,
Speaker 2: specific guys, charities, whatever, however, whatever means you're going through.
Speaker 2: But you're budgeting what you like and what's important to you.
Speaker 2: Where your money goes. Aside from quarterback, give me specific
Speaker 2: player archetypes that you feel most strongly about investing in.
Speaker 1: I am sinking all of my money into building the
Speaker 1: two point zero of Empson's defensive line from twenty eighteen. Okay,
Speaker 1: all of my money. It might not be the super
Speaker 1: sexy plan, but it is, as we saw.
Speaker 2: An enormo going out and getting a Jerry Judy.
Speaker 1: No, it is an enormous competitive advantage. It stops the run,
Speaker 1: it affects the pass. It's part of what truly has
Speaker 1: set the SEC apart for all these years. Defensive line play. Plus,
Speaker 1: if you can do what Clemson did and get three
Speaker 1: defensive linemen drafted in the first round. You better believe
Speaker 1: that moving forward. Yep, that's a position group that recruits
Speaker 1: itself long into the future. Yeah, so I go defensive
Speaker 1: line first and foremost. The way that it can change
Speaker 1: a college football game is something that you can't put
Speaker 1: a price tag on.
Speaker 2: I've been scarred by a couple of pretty poor defensive
Speaker 2: coordinators ty as an Oregon fan recently, the to the
Speaker 2: Don Pellam and the Brady hoke eras. And thus I've
Speaker 2: watched some bad linebackers. Okay, bad I should say bad linebackers.
Speaker 2: I mean maybe they were, but bad linebacker play. And
Speaker 2: there is something about a just nails inside or middle linebacker,
Speaker 2: depending on the scheme you're running, gets everybody set, makes calls.
Speaker 2: You know, run stuffer can drop into coverage. If I'm
Speaker 2: talking about somebody on the level of potentially Patrick Willis,
Speaker 2: Luke Keigley, somebody like that, I think that's where I am.
Speaker 2: Just all the chips are going in that direction.
Speaker 1: You get yourself like two or three Josh Allen's it's
Speaker 1: not a bad play.
Speaker 2: No, I mean he's sort of a stand up edge rusher.
Speaker 2: But yes, I need line. I mean, you watch the
Speaker 2: Ohio State Oregon National Championship game. I did not a
Speaker 2: lot of Ezekiel Elliott tackling happening in that game with
Speaker 2: an incredible defensive line with Eric Armstead and to Forrest
Speaker 2: Buckner in front of them. So there is something immensely
Speaker 2: personal about developing that. Like I want a neck roll.
Speaker 2: I want a lot of pointing and yelling. I want
Speaker 2: a lot of sideline towel waving. I want a lot
Speaker 2: of celebrations on batted balls. I want that captain anchor
Speaker 2: of a middle linebacker inside linebacker, and if he presents himself,
Speaker 2: that's where I'm spending my cash.
Speaker 1: Give me defensive line all day, every day.
Speaker 2: Okay, reasonable.
Speaker 1: It's interesting that neither one of us took offense with
Speaker 1: this though.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you can develop receivers. I think running
Speaker 2: backs the injury risk is pretty high. I a Quentin
Speaker 2: Nelson type sure thing inside there. That's gonna especially if
Speaker 2: you are a team who's going to run a good amount.
Speaker 2: That's very attractive. The road grader, Tie, road grader. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you give me a Quentin Nelson type. I'm listening. I'm
Speaker 2: not hanging up the phone.
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Speaker 2: Ty, can we make a quick announcement here?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Did I know we're about talking? I think we're done
Speaker 2: talking college football for this show.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, do.
Speaker 2: You have any other questions that you want to ask?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: No, actually, do we have one more? One more?
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, yeah, one more.
Speaker 2: Sorry for the teas, and then we're moving on. Okay
Speaker 2: from college football too, whatever our other nonsense. Somebody we
Speaker 2: talked about how much we loved LSU's field. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: we talked about how the painted gradient I is just
Speaker 2: so striking, and you love the five yard markers instead
Speaker 2: of ten yard markers. How it was just this unique
Speaker 2: quality when there's a lot of homogeneous named homogeneous, a
Speaker 2: homogeneous nature to college football fields sometimes. And we actually
Speaker 2: got an email from somebody who used to work on
Speaker 2: the You saw this the field beautiful for LSU. Awesome,
Speaker 2: Oh amazing, And he agreed with us. For the record,
Speaker 2: he didn't correct this, He just gave us some more
Speaker 2: details that there's no set design for there's no set
Speaker 2: border for the eye. It's just sort of what happens
Speaker 2: when they're painting it, and it's a autricate process.
Speaker 1: I love it beautiful chaos.
Speaker 2: Yes, what other fields in college football to you? So
Speaker 2: anything between fans, So it could be you know, if
Speaker 2: you love the hedges at Georgia, what fields to you
Speaker 2: are the most striking that visually? Just do it for
Speaker 2: you get your corneas all agog I would Dan, if
Speaker 2: you'll indulge me. Mm hmm, like to construct my ideal field.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, okay, your robofield.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about stadiums, right, We're just talking about
Speaker 1: the field of the field of play, the area the
Speaker 1: immediate area around the field of play.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So like if if a stadium has a
Speaker 2: track like Washington used to have a track around, that's
Speaker 2: because they okay, track and field. But if you like
Speaker 2: that vision, you're like, hey, I like that throwback.
Speaker 1: I think. I think what you know about me is
Speaker 1: that I like things that stray a little bit from
Speaker 1: the norm. Maybe not as much as you. Right, I
Speaker 1: like straying from the norm, and I'm all about sticking
Speaker 1: it to the man.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's you.
Speaker 1: I'm sticking mister rebel in an ideal world.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: Give me the blue turf from Boise.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, you're going for it.
Speaker 1: Give me that sweet LSU Tiger gradient logo and and
Speaker 1: the yard markings every five yards. M hm. I want
Speaker 1: the hedges from Georgia and Sanford Stadium for my money.
Speaker 1: Nothing better than a guy getting blasted into the hedges
Speaker 1: at Sanford Stadium.
Speaker 2: Yep. I And you have a bulldog on the field
Speaker 2: that counts. I didn't think of that, but yes, sitting
Speaker 2: on a mound of ice. Yes, so he doesn't overheat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got the Tennessee checkerboard in the end zone.
Speaker 2: Love the checkerboards.
Speaker 1: And because also if we're going to.
Speaker 2: Talk on the power to on the midfield, yeah, well
Speaker 2: I've already got my I know, I know midfield saying
Speaker 2: Tennessee's field aesthetic is terrific.
Speaker 1: Give me the checkerboard in the end zone. And I
Speaker 1: don't know how sound fits into this equation. We're talking
Speaker 1: about bulldogs and live mascots. But if it sound has
Speaker 1: no dimension Dan, so it's tough to say how it
Speaker 1: would fit into this equation. But I'm going to take
Speaker 1: the soundtrack from Lane Stadium.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean that's not a that's not a terf situation.
Speaker 1: I don't know how sound acoustics, Okay, sound that is
Speaker 1: obviously great. But if I could, I'm going to say,
Speaker 1: enter Samman from Laane Stadium.
Speaker 2: Do you have trouble with any of the fields with
Speaker 2: your vision? Sometimes I do not gonna watch ones. I
Speaker 2: have trouble when it rains. So what happens when it rains?
Speaker 2: When the browns and the greens? Oh, puddles really mess
Speaker 2: you up?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the typhoon games that we see the typhoon monsoon.
Speaker 1: Excuse me? Yeah, so what does that look like to you?
Speaker 1: It just all sort of looks the same.
Speaker 2: It's a mess.
Speaker 1: Okay, It's just like they're playing on a cow pasture,
Speaker 1: which isn't wrong per se. It's just tough for me
Speaker 1: to depict where the field stops and the football begins.
Speaker 2: I love the shades of green, and that's obviously because
Speaker 2: I've been to and I've watched so many Aughtson stadium games.
Speaker 2: But I love the sort of lighter, darker green alternating.
Speaker 2: And that's it's true at a number of stadiums. Yeah, nothing,
Speaker 2: it's terribly unique to Ottson, But I do like that.
Speaker 2: I like how you can sort of keep track of
Speaker 2: yardage really easily that way.
Speaker 1: On the fly.
Speaker 2: I think North Carolinas field. I think that that tar
Speaker 2: heel blue that they line it with, I think it
Speaker 2: pops really nicely with the green turf. My Number one
Speaker 2: is going to be the Rose Bowl field. I like
Speaker 2: how they paint the sidelines up until whatever point with
Speaker 2: the colors of the teams, and then you have that
Speaker 2: the dark end zones that you know, it doesn't just
Speaker 2: say Michigan or USC, it's that, you know, they have
Speaker 2: the Michigan blue all throughout that end zone and the
Speaker 2: cardinal of USC whatever. There is something that is incredibly
Speaker 2: striking of the Rose in the middle of the field.
Speaker 2: There is something just looking at that turf and not
Speaker 2: even talking about the bowl, not even talking about the
Speaker 2: San Gabriel Mountains, the angle with which we watch at
Speaker 2: which we watch the game, it's a pretty low angle, right,
Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl angle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you almost.
Speaker 2: See blades of grass when you're watching it at you know,
Speaker 2: I think ESPN probably about fifty sixty frames per second. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So there is something about the Rose Bowl that is
Speaker 2: so comforting turf wise, and I've walked on that turf
Speaker 2: before a couple of different Rose Bowls. It's just it's magic.
Speaker 2: And so that to me is probably my number one
Speaker 2: overall field, but elements wise, I think you nailed the
Speaker 2: other ones. I think LSU Tennessee. The blue turf doesn't
Speaker 2: do as much for me, but I do like that
Speaker 2: sometimes birds land on it thinking it's a pond making
Speaker 2: its water. I enjoy that element of it. But outside
Speaker 2: of that, I think those are all of my answers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if I'm not going Blue turf, I
Speaker 1: think I'm with you on the Rose Bowl. And you're
Speaker 1: right to point out the angle from which we watch
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl as a television viewer.
Speaker 2: Do you hate any fields or any elements of any fields?
Speaker 2: Do you know what? I absolutely love? And it's so
Speaker 2: terrible because I love watching the team, and I love
Speaker 2: the tradition around the field, and I love the colors
Speaker 2: and everything that happens. I hate Clemson's end zone yea
Speaker 2: so much. The Seraph's Sarah Clemson get out of here.
Speaker 1: Hmm.
Speaker 2: I think it's awful. I think it's tacky, and I
Speaker 2: hate it.
Speaker 1: I really feel that. I hate I need.
Speaker 2: I hate the Clemson en zone. I don't know how
Speaker 2: I feel about the Notre Dame en zone. I think
Speaker 2: I'm mostly down on it. I'm anti Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: I used to sort of like it and now just
Speaker 2: like the slashes are just it's there, just to be there.
Speaker 2: Let's let's update.
Speaker 1: There is a very simple quality to the Notre Dame field,
Speaker 1: right that I understand.
Speaker 2: I like the turf of Notre Dame field. Do they
Speaker 2: do they play on grass or they play on turf?
Speaker 1: It's turf. Now. Yeah, I like the simple nature of
Speaker 1: the field and I can understand why would be into that,
Speaker 1: But it doesn't do it for me. Give me the checkerboards,
Speaker 1: and I don't think Notre Dame needs to go ostentatious
Speaker 1: with their end zones. No, no, no, of course not.
Speaker 2: Just add a little let's let's go a little bit.
Speaker 2: You know, if it were some sort of shamrocky design
Speaker 2: in there, I think that'd be great. Listen, we've had
Speaker 2: thoughtful shamrocks. We've had issues with the Shamrocks series and
Speaker 2: the uniforms. I don't have any level of confidence that
Speaker 2: they could pull off the shamrock in the end zone
Speaker 2: on the home what about ty Stay with me here.
Speaker 2: Pots of gold.
Speaker 1: Pots are trying. It is the end of the rainbow
Speaker 1: right right. Metaphorically speaking, I could go with that thoughtful,
Speaker 1: classy pots of gold.
Speaker 2: I think you're onto something there, Dan, all right, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna give it some more thought, but I think Notre
Speaker 2: Dame can do something that I'm.
Speaker 1: Going to think more about stadiums I hate or fields
Speaker 1: that I hate.
Speaker 2: All Right, I think we're done with college football. So
Speaker 2: if you don't want to keep listening, thanks for the download.
Speaker 2: It's been a pleasure. Keep driving safely, don't max out
Speaker 2: at the gym any anywhere beyond where you're comfortable. Take
Speaker 2: a good nap on this flight. You've earned it.
Speaker 1: Our friend Peter Hoffin might be on a flight. He
Speaker 1: sent us a mess. You're on a flight this weekend. Well, Peter, Ty, here's.
Speaker 2: Here's my first non college football question. But it's sort
Speaker 2: of related to college football. If your future son or
Speaker 2: daughter is recruited heavily by a college coach, wow, to
Speaker 2: play whatever sports?
Speaker 1: Wow? Good question? What? Well?
Speaker 2: I haven't asked the question yet, but you see it
Speaker 2: in front of you. Yeah, what means are you making
Speaker 2: them during the end home visit? Okay, and it's not
Speaker 2: like you need to impress them. They're already impressed with
Speaker 2: your son or daughter, right, But what what is the
Speaker 2: meal that you were going to say? Man, I, especially
Speaker 2: if your son or daughter is really leaning towards Tennessee
Speaker 2: basketball or USC tennis, whatever, and you want to make
Speaker 2: that really you want to have that impression with the coach. Well, Dan,
Speaker 2: and you cannot farm this out to mama. H I'm
Speaker 2: not farming this south town. You know.
Speaker 1: As I said earlier, some of my defining qualities, I
Speaker 1: do like to stick it to the man right, just
Speaker 1: sort of my mo wove to the fabric of my being.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody knows this about you.
Speaker 1: I also tend to overthink things. Yeah, so I would
Speaker 1: probably approach this from a deep psychological standpoint. I don't
Speaker 1: want to get too fancy with this dinner. Nor do
Speaker 1: I really want to try and impress who's ever coming
Speaker 1: over to the house. I want to try and get
Speaker 1: them at their absolute weakest moment, most vulnerable moment, when
Speaker 1: I can see truly into the soul of the coach.
Speaker 1: I want something messy, and I want something informal. So
Speaker 1: maybe a big greasy burger, maybe we make wings, maybe
Speaker 1: we buy wings from down the street here. I want
Speaker 1: something messy. I want something I can cook on the grill.
Speaker 1: You want them rolling up their sleeves, rolling up your sleeves.
Speaker 1: I've never done a boil, but maybe we do a
Speaker 1: boil while you're out, something that's messy, dirty and informal
Speaker 1: to get the coach at his or her most vulnerable state.
Speaker 2: So I'm giving the coach an opportunity because I know
Speaker 2: this is apparently the code amongst coaches. They are always
Speaker 2: supposed to ask for seconds. Really always ask for seconds,
Speaker 2: because it indicates to the parents, oh my god, this
Speaker 2: meal you've prepared is so good. It's very flattering to
Speaker 2: go to somebody's house and say, this meal is so good.
Speaker 2: Could I possibly have more? Could I have the recipe?
Speaker 2: And so that is a code amongst coaches. So I'm
Speaker 2: going to do something that would make it so obvious
Speaker 2: and I would allow them to ask for seconds. I'm
Speaker 2: just making a giant panel lasagna. Yeah, and this is
Speaker 2: why I don't want to spend too much time away
Speaker 2: from the coach. I got a lot of questions, how
Speaker 2: are you going to use my daughter in the triangle offense?
Speaker 2: How are you going to is my son only to
Speaker 2: play doubles? Is my son a three down running back?
Speaker 2: I can answer that right now. Probably not no, probably,
Speaker 2: And I just need that one pan, that one dish
Speaker 2: meal that you just throw the noodles, you start layering,
Speaker 2: you get your meat, sauce, you get some Italian sausage
Speaker 2: in there, plenty of cheese. You just throw it in
Speaker 2: the oven. You don't think about it. Maybe throw together
Speaker 2: a salad, maybe some roast vegetables. But I don't want
Speaker 2: to be doing too much. I want to be sitting
Speaker 2: down with this coach and then just hear the timer
Speaker 2: go off and then out comes the lasagna, and then
Speaker 2: give the opportunity a coach to say, you know what,
Speaker 2: if you don't mind, can I get that corner piece?
Speaker 2: If you don't, if it wouldn't be too much trouble,
Speaker 2: because this is the best lasagna I've ever had. Could
Speaker 2: you throw me the corner piece, throw me an edge,
Speaker 2: that money edge. So I think lasagna is my answer.
Speaker 2: Get to spend optimal amount of time.
Speaker 1: Like it's a tough to answer.
Speaker 2: Good answer, good answer, good answer. Okay, tie, This is
Speaker 2: a question that I find myself having to answer, and
Speaker 2: I don't answer it well. That often when you're finishing
Speaker 2: up a meal at a decent or a nicer restaurant anniversary,
Speaker 2: or just like, you know what, we need to go
Speaker 2: on a Friday night date? Sure, we just go to
Speaker 2: a couple are yeah, sure, and it's maybe it's one
Speaker 2: of a little hipstery where everything is printed in like
Speaker 2: a type or font on a piece of paper that's
Speaker 2: four inches by eight inches. Those that kind of place,
Speaker 2: they got truffle things tat. Yeah. Server asks you if
Speaker 2: you'd like to see a dessert menu clearing your plates,
Speaker 2: You guys interested, you want to take a look at
Speaker 2: the dessert menu. You guys, save some room, save some
Speaker 2: room for dessert. And so provided that you are not
Speaker 2: on a diet, you nor Kate is on a diet
Speaker 2: where you're not eating sugar, so you'd be open to
Speaker 2: desserts if they had something interesting or if you were
Speaker 2: in the mood. Is your response to that question? A?
Speaker 2: You just answer quickly, know that you and Kate have
Speaker 2: already sort of had the conversation your fall. Let's just
Speaker 2: get the check. B. What do you think we're worth
Speaker 2: a look? Are you? Are you deciding on the spot
Speaker 2: with the server standing there waiting, Are you saying sure?
Speaker 2: Why not? No matter if you actually mean it, Just
Speaker 2: to see what the offerings are because maybe next time
Speaker 2: you will be interested in that peach cobbler. Maybe it's
Speaker 2: not for tonight, but you like to know what is
Speaker 2: available at this establishment. Do you defer with like, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm good, Kate, do whatever, obviously, if you feel like dessert,
Speaker 2: get dessert, but I'm good. Is that like your natural
Speaker 2: natural response or do you just defer to Kate?
Speaker 1: Either way, I defer to the second half.
Speaker 2: Right, So what is the most common what is your
Speaker 2: natural response to that question?
Speaker 1: My next is okay, So it multiple layers here, Dan,
Speaker 1: I went out to dinner for my anniversary recently.
Speaker 2: You got to read the room. That's a big part
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: You got to read the room. Yeah, I went out
Speaker 1: to dinner for my anniversary recently. I also went out
Speaker 1: for a belated Valentine's Day dinner recent In both those cases,
Speaker 1: because it was a special occasion occasion, I just went
Speaker 1: into that experience knowing that we were going to say, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's take.
Speaker 2: It headfirst into dessert. Yeah, let's just do this the
Speaker 2: special occasion. We're gonna do dessert for course meal. When
Speaker 2: it's not a special occasion, I think you have to
Speaker 2: read the room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Usually when we're in that kind of uncertain territory.
Speaker 1: Usually it's solid wife Kate being the first to speak up,
Speaker 1: and usually she's speaking up in a manner like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we save some room, or yeah, take a look.
Speaker 2: I've never considered room, by the way, as I'm eating
Speaker 2: my patty mess as I'm never eating my rotisserie chicken.
Speaker 1: But yeah, never in a million years.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: But it's usually her speaking up. Usually in that moment,
Speaker 1: I will defer to her, okay. And sometimes we just
Speaker 1: come away with coffee. Sometimes we don't come away with anything.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, look at you boldly drinking coffee at night.
Speaker 1: Usually I'm not the first to speak up. Usually in
Speaker 1: that moment, you defer to her. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: I will almost always ask to see the menu for
Speaker 2: the reason I gave where, even if I'm not feeling
Speaker 2: like dessert.
Speaker 1: Do future research?
Speaker 2: Love the note to know the lay of the land.
Speaker 2: I take forever at grocery stores time.
Speaker 1: How do you do with menus? Just in general? I
Speaker 1: find I have a d D with menus and.
Speaker 2: I go I will always, I will always, always always
Speaker 2: look up the menu before I go somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 2: And there are places that you know, with changes by
Speaker 2: the night, whatever whatever is fresh, and whatever the chef
Speaker 2: is feeling like in terms of that night. But I
Speaker 2: generally go in with a great sense, so I'm good
Speaker 2: with menus.
Speaker 1: Can I can I admit to something here on the
Speaker 1: pom Rat since we're running yeah late here today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm very intimidated to place a dinner order in your presence.
Speaker 2: And I get that a lot, And I don't understand.
Speaker 1: I'm very intimidated by you just as a uh wow.
Speaker 2: Just because you think I'm gonna judge your order.
Speaker 1: No, I'm afraid of the globe tomato situation. Oh you
Speaker 1: don't want to pronounce something. I will have a bowl
Speaker 1: of Raymond please, something like that.
Speaker 2: I how have your finest bull love? But you done.
Speaker 1: I'm a little intimidated. I like you very much personally
Speaker 1: professionally you know this is working out, But when it
Speaker 1: comes to dining, I'm a little intimidated.
Speaker 2: So have you ever ordered either in front of me
Speaker 2: or in front of anybody else? You've been intimidated by
Speaker 2: something because you are more comfortable pronouncing it more so
Speaker 2: than that's what you actually wanted.
Speaker 1: You know, I can't think up a moment off the
Speaker 1: top of my head, but it definitely, it definitely seems
Speaker 1: like something I would do.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I'm sorry. Like I can't imagine that we've
Speaker 2: eaten at too many exotically named dish restaurants, but perhaps
Speaker 2: we have.
Speaker 1: Some of the Mexican places we went to when we
Speaker 1: were out in Arizona.
Speaker 2: There there were menu items that threw you.
Speaker 1: Do you have a greater command of the Spanish language
Speaker 1: than I do? I do, And there are there are
Speaker 1: l's that I may have pronounced that you knew to
Speaker 1: pronounces wise things.
Speaker 2: Please just tell me, Just tell me that you want,
Speaker 2: like say that, oh, I don't how does this pronounce?
Speaker 2: Is it tayuda? That kind of thing, and then we'll
Speaker 2: just go from there. I don't want you to not
Speaker 2: get something because you're shame over.
Speaker 1: This is a show about honesty. I just had that.
Speaker 2: Absolutely it is. I will always ask for the dessert menu.
Speaker 2: And I am a little bit bummed that we've gotten
Speaker 2: to a place where a lot of the time people
Speaker 2: feel like, oh, dessert menu, which one dessert should we order?
Speaker 2: Because dessert tastes are pretty varied. Do you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like sometimes you'll like, you and Kate will get the
Speaker 2: dessert menus and she'll be like, what should we get
Speaker 2: the smores? Should we just go for it? But meanwhile
Speaker 2: you're thinking, God, the blueberry tart is just calling my name.
Speaker 2: But for whatever reason, we've gotten to this place where
Speaker 2: you can only order one dessert. I don't know if
Speaker 2: that's true of you and Kate.
Speaker 1: If you're picking one dessert, what percentage of the time
Speaker 1: would you say you are overruled by your wife? One
Speaker 1: hundred one zero cero, I would say, I am. She
Speaker 1: is literally undefeated again.
Speaker 2: But I will I will just order a second dessert.
Speaker 2: Generally that that's what will happen. If I'm feeling particularly
Speaker 2: good about the lemon merangue pie and she's jonesing for
Speaker 2: the berries or whatever. Yeah, it's like and throwing the lemons,
Speaker 2: throwing the slice of lemon rang pie. Let's just solid.
Speaker 1: Wife, Kate is undefeated against me in that conversation.
Speaker 2: Oh, if you're just ordering the one, you are you
Speaker 2: are merely a partner, You are merely a suggestion. You
Speaker 2: are in, you are riding along, you are in the sidecar.
Speaker 1: Give me, yeah, one or two more quick ones here.
Speaker 2: If you were immediately thrust into one of the Property
Speaker 2: Brothers jobs realtor, realtor real tour or contract tour, contractor,
Speaker 2: which do you think you could more plausibly and successfully
Speaker 2: navigate with zero experience and training.
Speaker 1: I think it would have to be the real tour.
Speaker 2: Why is that? I think I'm You're not delegating as
Speaker 2: a realtor. You're just getting it done. Get money. You
Speaker 2: need no market. You need to know negotiation tactics.
Speaker 1: I think I could manage the negotiation tactics. Inspection stuff,
Speaker 1: I think I could manage that. Okay, I think I
Speaker 1: think I could do enough to muddle my way through it.
Speaker 1: The problem with actually being a contractor is you've got
Speaker 1: to build stuff or you got to know what to
Speaker 1: delegate to people who've got to hire people. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: got to you gotta know what you're looking for. And
Speaker 1: as a first time homeowner, I'm telling you I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm looking for. Yeah, I could talk my
Speaker 1: way into or out of most situations.
Speaker 2: I would be terrible at both of these things. I
Speaker 2: was just curious to see what you would say. I
Speaker 2: would have to which one would you pick? Oh, I
Speaker 2: would definitely be a realtor. You got to go the
Speaker 2: same reason you could definitely talk your way into because
Speaker 2: if I were to build a house with zero training,
Speaker 2: there would be walls that would not align.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a fatality somewhere in there. Gosh, yes,
Speaker 1: wait did we not dry wall? Did we not dry wall?
Speaker 2: Is that on me?
Speaker 1: I don't even want to look at those insurance?
Speaker 2: But that would be every day term like termites plural, Yeah,
Speaker 2: every day. So that's that's a good answer. Good answer.
Speaker 2: Final question here, ty, what is something you definitely don't
Speaker 2: need to spend a ton on but prefer the premium experience?
Speaker 2: Excuse me? And what is something you refuse to spend
Speaker 2: a ton on but others happily do?
Speaker 1: Huh? This is sort of the Apple computer dilemma, right right?
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely it is.
Speaker 1: That would probably be a good answer.
Speaker 2: Well, you spend a ton on electronics gear if you
Speaker 2: don't settle Yeah, any video gear.
Speaker 1: Anything, electronics audio, that's.
Speaker 2: You're setting up a possibly illegal surveillance system that is
Speaker 2: possibly illegal, possibly illegal surveillance anything anything electronic.
Speaker 1: Usually I'm going overboard on that. So okay, what do
Speaker 1: you refuse to spend a lot on let's put it
Speaker 1: this way. Anything that on Amazon also has an Amazon
Speaker 1: Basics option, I'm almost always going with the Amazon Basics option.
Speaker 2: The high floor of Amazon Basics, whatever it is. I'm going,
Speaker 2: ever to cables. Do you own any Amazon pieces of clothing?
Speaker 2: I don't have a brands. I don't yet, but I'm
Speaker 2: not against it. They're all right. I'm not gonna I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna name drop names because they're not sponsored. But
Speaker 2: I've needed some a couple of things in a pinch,
Speaker 2: all right. They do the job. I refuse to spend
Speaker 2: money on parking. Parking, Oh, we've We've talked about this before.
Speaker 2: I refuse, like there have I've driven in so many
Speaker 2: cities with Jodie with an eye which it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: there's just a lot right here, and it's twenty seven dollars. No,
Speaker 2: I will feed that meter till I die. I'm not
Speaker 2: paying money. I'm not paying like premium money for parking
Speaker 2: ever ever ever Valet, Nope, there's a spot somewhere.
Speaker 1: See. I had an awakening. I don't know why that is.
Speaker 1: I had an awakening. Dane. We were planning our wedding
Speaker 1: because I very much went into that of the mindset.
Speaker 1: I'm going to try and keep this as cheap as possible,
Speaker 1: nice and classy, sure to reflect our personalities in our lifestyle.
Speaker 1: But I don't want to go overboard, and I certainly
Speaker 1: don't want to get fleeced on any of these things
Speaker 1: that we're going to to buy.
Speaker 2: I'm not paying money for flowers.
Speaker 1: And then I learned about these so called wedding tax
Speaker 1: and let me tell you, I came out of that
Speaker 1: experience willing to pay fifty dollars for just about anything
Speaker 1: in life. Since then, I have not been the same.
Speaker 1: Before that, I was a lot more miserly. Now I'm
Speaker 1: in a spot where it's tougher for me to answer
Speaker 1: the question right. But I do like Amazon Basics. Anything
Speaker 1: with an Amazon Basics option, I determined most of the time,
Speaker 1: I'm not willing to spend it. I'm going to go
Speaker 1: Amazon Basics.
Speaker 2: Would you advise somebody to not have a wedding? Yes,
Speaker 2: I love the pregnant pause there. You would advise somebody's
Speaker 2: city hall, then, like just like rent out the backyard
Speaker 2: of a restaurant or something. If you can do with friends,
Speaker 2: you can swing it, if you.
Speaker 1: Can swing it without offending family, Yep, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Go for it.
Speaker 2: Have twelve people in your backyard. If somebody in your
Speaker 2: family insists on a proper ceremony, use.
Speaker 1: That money towards a house, towards a car, towards whatever,
Speaker 1: a a trip around the world. Yeah, consider that if
Speaker 1: you can get out. I mean, do you feel the same.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I loved my wedding, so that a phenomenal
Speaker 2: time at your wedding, at my wedding, whatever. But I
Speaker 2: would advise that just in terms of the headache and
Speaker 2: just what you could put that money towards. Did you
Speaker 2: did you.
Speaker 1: Have a moment when you were planning your wedding m
Speaker 1: h where you looked at Jody with an eye and said.
Speaker 2: Fake my own death, change my identity.
Speaker 1: Did you ever look at her during the wedding planning
Speaker 1: process and say should we want to do this? Like?
Speaker 1: Maybe is it too late?
Speaker 2: What are we doing?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I did not have that moment. It was a great process.
Speaker 2: But if you have the freedom to do the city
Speaker 2: hall or backyard thing and then just do a thing
Speaker 2: with a bunch of friends, I'd say go for that.
Speaker 1: Go for that, man.
Speaker 2: I would say go for that. In terms of something
Speaker 2: that I insist on spending a premium for that. I
Speaker 2: don't need to. It's always food. It's always always food,
Speaker 2: and it's always I want to try as much as
Speaker 2: possible at restaurants, if that is not exceedingly obvious already, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I want if there are three appetizers that appeal to me,
Speaker 2: and I'm with one, two, three other people, and everybody
Speaker 2: just like what appetizers would we get? Like, no, let's
Speaker 2: get a B and C because who cares, let's just
Speaker 2: try it. All that to me is where I'm overspending
Speaker 2: always always, you know one other area, yeah, that I'm
Speaker 2: finding now as a homeowner. M I just spent an
Speaker 2: arm and a leg to get new smoke detectors. Really
Speaker 2: I did, man, and I didn't need to.
Speaker 1: I'm finding that other things in that same vein, like
Speaker 1: just preventative home type stuff. Right. They really sell me
Speaker 1: on the value of peace of mind.
Speaker 2: That's a huge thing as I am now dealing with childcare. Tie,
Speaker 2: you're not paying for childcare.
Speaker 1: You're paying for peace of mind. Paying for that peace
Speaker 1: of mind. Yeah, that's where they get you.
Speaker 2: Super cheap in New York childcare, super duper. You wouldn't
Speaker 2: think it, but it is crazy cheap, all right, So
Speaker 2: that's that deal.
Speaker 1: You had all these questions for me. Yeah, you put
Speaker 1: me to the test. I'm running on e here. I
Speaker 1: gotta get some food in my belly. Same all because
Speaker 1: of your heart hitting questions. Next week, it's going to
Speaker 1: be my turn. I've got some good ones for you. Yes,
Speaker 1: I started thinking them up today.
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Speaker 1: That's all I got, Dan. Here's my final question to you, Ty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if people started tuning out thinking we were just
Speaker 2: plugging reviews and subscriptions, would you say that you have
Speaker 2: been flirted with since getting married with certainty? This person
Speaker 2: a man in whoever, Pat, I have been flirted with definitively. Yeah,
Speaker 2: your answer is yes.
Speaker 1: Uh no, I'm saying, was your answer yes, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely I definitively.
Speaker 2: I say definitely because I'm a stupid, stupid dude who
Speaker 2: probably takes way too much as flirtation. But in my mind,
Speaker 2: well in person, probably I will not say definitively yes. Online, yes,
Speaker 2: I will say this in DMS have been slugged into.
Speaker 1: In general, and the solid wife Kate would back me
Speaker 1: up on this one. M I had no idea what
Speaker 1: was going on round.
Speaker 2: Oh, I tell Jody with an eye all the time,
Speaker 2: like this person is DM me and is a getting
Speaker 2: Oh oh, it's weird, look at this.
Speaker 1: I have no idea my place in the universe, right,
Speaker 1: and in general, I'm I'm pretty okay. And so I
Speaker 1: think there was a lot of that going on before
Speaker 1: I was married, and you just had no I had
Speaker 1: no idea about the commodity here, that's right. The solid
Speaker 1: wife had to tell me what was going on. Wow.
Speaker 2: So so it wasn't even just flirtation. It was like
Speaker 2: you were being hit on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I'm going to assume that to some
Speaker 1: degree that's continued, I'm just not paying any attention to it.
Speaker 1: I wasn't paying attention to it before.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Ty, first you call yourself a rebel,
Speaker 2: Now you consider yourself a flirtation man, I mean.
Speaker 1: That's what goes on. Wow. I have no idea, to
Speaker 1: be honest, but maybe.
Speaker 2: I just wanted. I was curious if you had to
Speaker 2: like diffuse the situation.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no bombs have needed to be differed.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's good to know. I love hearing that.
Speaker 1: Well, Dan, we've covered ground here, haven't we.
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 1: We're going to be back next week. It's a long
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Speaker 1: of your week and your weekend.
Speaker 2: Okay, hey you too, and order those desserts.
Speaker 1: Come get on those desserts. I'm gonna go get some
Speaker 1: food now after this, fuel myself up for the long
Speaker 1: night of editing that surely is in front of me,
Speaker 1: and I'll talk to you. I'm sure tomorrow I'll talk
Speaker 1: to everyone out there.
Speaker 2: What in a week, right, yep, next week.
Speaker 1: In the meantime for that, go over there Dan for myself, Hi,
Speaker 1: we'll talk to y'all soon.
Speaker 2: Stay solid, Peace,