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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: And Dan and Tye welcome back to the solid verbal

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Speaker 1: boys and girls. My name is ty Hildebrand, joining me

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Speaker 1: as always over there in sunny New York City. My

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Speaker 1: man Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I wore a short sleeve shirt to the office today. Ty, WHOA,

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Speaker 2: that's a big step. It's huge, It's huge. I'm feeling great, oh,

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Speaker 2: Ty it's it's two weeks of spring that's all it is.

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Speaker 2: That's all we have. But springball is over and we

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Speaker 1: We do have a new concept what we're gonna do. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So we've been doing this thing once a month where

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Speaker 1: we do question and answered. We solicit questions from the

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Speaker 1: verbaler hood. You send him in via email at soliverbal

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com or Twitter at soliverbal of course

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Speaker 1: is the handle Facebook, Reddit, you name it the whole

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Speaker 1: nine yards correct. But you know, sometimes we tend to

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Speaker 2: we're going to feel about curtain a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: But you've got some questions for me, some burning questions

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Speaker 2: how long now, I don't know how long you've been

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Speaker 1: But before us, we've got a list of questions that

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Speaker 1: We talked about Daniel Jones, all right, now what I

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Speaker 2: Okay, how do you interpret that statement?

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Speaker 1: You need to consistently feel the team that is good

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Speaker 2: I think that's right. I think it's Pat Nardoozi NARDUTSI.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the louder. The exhale is before a

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Speaker 2: like they would always go eight in five. Right, that's

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Speaker 2: not a disaster. No matter where you are, that's not

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to is there who's the most average PAC

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Speaker 2: He's underwhelmed, he's overachieved, he's recruited all you know, to

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Speaker 2: it's Clay Helton. And the funny thing about both Helton

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Speaker 2: of You would never recognize them if they were buying

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Speaker 1: You would never recognize Clay Heilton without a hat on. No,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, no, he could have Harry could have

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Speaker 2: Okay, Ty, you're a Notre Dame fan and I guess

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Speaker 2: so therefore you have Notre Dame and Penn State loyalty,

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Speaker 2: inspired by I have some friends who went to medical

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So basically, if an app existed, an objective app

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Speaker 2: account a program's general esthetic, the existing fan stereotypes, fair

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Speaker 2: the program would match you?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: Like, wow, who are your people? Because if we're talking stereotypes,

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Speaker 2: there's it's it's you're not old, you're not sort of

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean we're getting there, but no, you're getting there.

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Speaker 2: You're not. You don't you're not dripping in tradition with

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Speaker 2: everything you do. No, you don't complain that things are

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Speaker 1: This is an excellent question. Thank you when you when

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Speaker 1: There have been articles written about it. It may or

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Speaker 1: relies on intuition. I think instead of sense, and I

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Speaker 2: You're more mellow, yeap more mellow.

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Speaker 1: Here is what according to our friends over at ZIP recruiter,

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Speaker 1: the best careers for me would be okay.

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Speaker 2: So you're going to try to as an empt or

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Speaker 1: Try to man it at the college football program, right

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Speaker 1: all right? So number one it says I would be

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Speaker 1: I have picked some winners in my day, Okay, other

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that you're a Big ten school.

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Speaker 2: I would say that you are. I would put you

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Speaker 1: I was thinking Ohio State, Michigan is probably.

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Speaker 2: Now I think I think you're much more Michigan. There's

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Speaker 2: I think that's the answer for you. How about I

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Speaker 2: think I'm a natural Colorado buffalo Colorado one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: I will go along with that. You've said that for

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Speaker 2: Let's make this shift, is it? Because I love when

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hit us up.

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Speaker 2: do you like that wide open? Everybody's competent, everybody's pretty good.

437
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Speaker 2: You know, teams aren't go to shoot themselves in the foot.

438
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 2: You know there's talent, you know there's quarterback play, you

439
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 2: know there's organization on defense. But you're never going to

440
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: have the energy and hype of Oh wow. In two

441
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: weeks we have Lsubama, Oh my god, Florida State, Clemson,

442
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: Oh boy, here comes Michigan, Ohio State, oh Man, usc Oregon.

443
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 2: Which do you prefer. Do you like having that isolated

444
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 2: hype and the energy that comes with those games of

445
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: the century of the universe, or do you want wild West?

446
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 2: Whatever happens happens. Oh boy, I'm seeing something on the

447
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: ESPN bottom line that I did not expect. North Carolina

448
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 2: is beating up on whoever Florida State got to get there.

449
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 2: Didn't expect that.

450
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Speaker 1: Well, what's interesting about this, Dan?

451
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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

452
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Speaker 1: You can make a really good case that the ACC

453
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Speaker 1: is both The.

454
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Speaker 2: ACC is everything, the ACC is an annual buffet. The

455
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 2: ACC really is both of these wrapped into one. Well

456
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 2: you're really asking me, though, is if I prefer the

457
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Speaker 2: PAC twelve or any conference that isn't the PAC twelve. Well,

458
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Speaker 2: I not this iteration of the PAC twelve. I don't

459
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Speaker 2: know who the hierarchy is. Washington's Okay, issue.

460
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm saying there is no hierarchy.

461
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: Rick, but I would argue there's not top to bottom confidence.

462
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: That is also a fair point. I'm going with the

463
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: top tier that keeps things interesting. Okay, I don't care

464
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: so much if the only thing on the line is

465
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: a birth to the Holiday Bowl, and I love the

466
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Speaker 1: Holiday Bowl. You want stakes, I want stakes. I want

467
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: the Game of the century, right, I want a little

468
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: bit more flavor to the games that I'm watching. I'm

469
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Speaker 1: coming at this from the perspective of I'm sure like

470
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Speaker 1: many college football fans who listen to this show, my

471
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: team is Notre Dame mm hm. My team also Team

472
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Speaker 1: B if you want to call it. That's Penn State.

473
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Speaker 2: Yep.

474
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Speaker 1: The overwhelming majority of the games that I'm watching on

475
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Speaker 1: a college football Saturday feature neither. So you got to

476
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Speaker 1: give me a reason to watch. I've got the built

477
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Speaker 1: in reason of the podcast. But if I'm not watching

478
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Speaker 1: from the podcast perspective, if I just want to be

479
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: a fan, I want a reason to watch that game.

480
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Speaker 1: Why am I sitting aside three or four hours? You

481
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Speaker 1: got to give me some meaning here, so correct give

482
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Speaker 1: me option A two to four teams clearly head and

483
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Speaker 1: shoulders above the rest.

484
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had was it twenty seventeen, twenty sixteen, The

485
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 2: Big Ten did a really good job of having interesting,

486
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 2: really good teams. The top that would have been what

487
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan State. Michigan had a down

488
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: year a couple of years ago, but Wisconsin had a

489
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 2: what were they twelve and one? Thirteen and one. Northwestern

490
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 2: finished with ten wins, so there was at least that

491
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Speaker 2: element at the top. Though week to week you still

492
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: had a terrible Rutgers Maryland. I think Indiana was not great,

493
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 2: Illinois was awful, and so that I think you need

494
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: a higher floor than what the Big ten did a

495
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Speaker 2: couple of years ago. I think I liked the wild

496
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Speaker 2: Wild West thing. As my interest in the national championship,

497
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: I need more than Holiday Bowl stakes. Although Ty, don't

498
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: be smirched the Holiday Bowl. The Holiday Bowl rules. It's outstanding.

499
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Speaker 2: You get to go to San Diego in late December.

500
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Speaker 1: No, it's it's good. It's good.

501
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Speaker 2: During bowl season, does the stadium randomly get flooded?

502
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: Yes? Possibly sometimes it can sometimes happen. Yeah, I love

503
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: it during bowl season. During the regular season, it is

504
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 1: not the crown jewel I am interested in.

505
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: I think I used to have an old bit on

506
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 2: one of the video things that I used to do,

507
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: like the minor key cart the road to the road

508
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 2: to the minikey car Cairbowl, and you don't want that.

509
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 2: You don't want that. But where the SEC has been

510
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 2: recently I think is interesting with in terms of at

511
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 2: the top could potentially beat everybody, maybe outside of Alabama

512
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: with the Mississippi school Mississippi schools rising up, with Georgia

513
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: and Florida and you know, Kentucky coming up into a

514
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: really fun place at least defensively, I think they've gotten

515
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: to a pretty decent place where the bottom hasn't been

516
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 2: awful awful Outside of Arkansas, I don't think the SEC

517
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: has had the a Kansas Rutgers, Oregon State, Illinois situation

518
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: in the same way. So I at least like that

519
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 2: the ACC is in a bad place right now? Would

520
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: you agree? Not at the top? But well no, I

521
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 2: think they're in a bad place at the top.

522
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Speaker 1: Well, they've got Clemson, Dan.

523
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 2: They've got Clemson. But that's I didn't say one good

524
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: team right well, I said I want two, three, four.

525
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Speaker 1: Dare I say Florida State is going to be Florida

526
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: State before we.

527
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 2: Would dare to say that, because that's a dumb thing

528
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Speaker 2: to say.

529
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Speaker 1: Right now?

530
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Speaker 2: Who who right now are you? If you are taking

531
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Speaker 2: out a red pen a red SHARPI you're like, I

532
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: can't wait for Clemson and blahbaty blah. Who is your

533
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: blobberdy blah.

534
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, Miami maybe eventually eventually, uh, Virginia Tech,

535
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: I don't know.

536
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: You can't write maybe eventually on the side now I

537
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: know because I am not seeing that, like I like that.

538
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: Clemson's going to carry it home. So that's that's a

539
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: light pencil circle this year. But right now, I think

540
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: the ACC is in a bad place.

541
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Speaker 1: All right, Hot takes.

542
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: Tie. I host a podcast called sports Wars. I need

543
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: some sports wars in the ACC. Where are we going next?

544
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: Next question? Let's stay in that general region. So last

545
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: year South Carolina went through the middle part of their schedule,

546
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: so like late September or October, early November, whatever. There

547
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: were five games there. They played, not the best, not

548
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: the worst teams on their schedule. So this was not

549
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: early season dumping. This was not Clemson late, who actually

550
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: played pretty well against and each of those games on

551
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 2: average was decided by a field goal something like three

552
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: point one or three point two points. And we used

553
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: to refer to them as or we did refer to

554
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: them as they were like the most competitive team. They

555
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: were in so many games late we were like, well,

556
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: they're not going away and they're not really good enough

557
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: to put away these teams that are pretty good. So

558
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: they're just competitive. And these were decent enough teams Missouri

559
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,959
Speaker 2: and Florida, teams like that. So this year when you

560
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: look ahead and I think by the way the net

561
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: point per drive scored and allowed like netted out to

562
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: like point oh two, it worked out really really well

563
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: in South Carolina. So when you look at the twenty

564
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: nineteen season, who strikes you? And this, I guess is

565
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: in the same vein as the most average coach, But

566
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: who is the team that they're They're pretty good, They're

567
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 2: just not pretty or good, They're just they're aggressively competent

568
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: and competitive.

569
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Speaker 1: I think the answer is Iowa.

570
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: They're going to be in every game. We've got really

571
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: strong line in coming back on both sides. Okay, Nate Stanley.

572
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: Lose two tight ends, but Nate Stanley I love, we love.

573
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Speaker 1: I think the answer is Iowa here.

574
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Speaker 2: That's pretty good. I think it's Northwestern. I think that

575
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: we both went Big ten. Yeah, we're going Big ten.

576
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: I think Missouri is an interesting answer. Yeah, I think

577
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: they're especially they gave Georgia trouble last year. It was

578
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: a game at halftime. I don't know of anybody that

579
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: I would take right now. Cal's a half team, and

580
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: I don't like taking a half team. Like their defense

581
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: is going to keep them in it, but their offense

582
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: is going to sort of keep them out of a

583
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: bunch of games. They were too lopsided last year. They'd

584
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: win a game fifteen to ten, but then they'd lose

585
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 2: a game like thirty seven to seven. So I'm not

586
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: down with Cal there in the Big twelve. I think

587
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: man Iowa States had some blowouts, but I think they

588
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: have gotten to a point where it's going to be

589
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 2: hard to comfortably beat Iowa State. We saw Oklahoma struggle

590
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: these past couple of years, going one and one. Last

591
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: Keen Butler had his way with some some Oklahoma dbs.

592
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: So I think Iowa State's a pretty good answer there.

593
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: That they're just aggressively competent, which like we mentioned earlier

594
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: step in the perfect direction for the Clones. I think it's,

595
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: by the wayate the Nate Stanley thing. I'm going to

596
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: load a list up right now. But I was talking

597
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: about this with our pal Andy Staples before we did

598
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: the SI Live half night party thing that we did

599
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: before the or during the first round. Who is twenty

600
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Speaker 2: twenty Daniel Jones? Who is the quarterback? Why do you

601
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: keep bringing up Daniel Jones?

602
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: Sorry?

603
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: I know you are you? Are you still a Giants fan?

604
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: Barely?

605
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: Okay? Who is the twenty twenty quarterback that college fans

606
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: will look at as like that guy.

607
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: Him?

608
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: Who is that guy?

609
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: Man?

610
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: I'll give you you know who? Andy's answer was, who

611
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: Felipe Franks? Oh man, that's a good, big arm, great

612
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: physical tools, athletic. I think Nate Stanley's on the list, man,

613
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: you know who? I think somebody could talk themselves into

614
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: because I love Jake from I've liked them since day one, right,

615
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: I think people are going Jacob easonon.

616
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: Eason's one that jumps out at me.

617
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: He jumps out at like he's going to make some

618
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: wow throws if he wins the starting job.

619
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Speaker 1: He's a starter.

620
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: He'll make some crazy throws and he'll finish seventh. He'll

621
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Speaker 2: be the seventh or eighth most efficient PAC twelfth quarterback.

622
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: And somebody's gonna talk themselves into Jacobson because the measurables

623
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Speaker 2: Nate Stanley I think is that conversation. I think he's

624
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: pretty good. I just wouldn't take him in the first round.

625
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: I guess right now if I'm picking Jake Eason is

626
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Speaker 1: interesting to me. Oh, man, I need no time with

627
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: this one, though.

628
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: Well, Brian Lawurki looking at his efficiency metrics from twenty seventeen.

629
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Speaker 1: Man, you can't. You can't shine twenty eighteen, though.

630
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones was there for a long time and had

631
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Speaker 2: a lot of duds and went number six. All right,

632
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: next question me, the next question. Okay, ooh, this one's

633
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: pretty good. Let's say you're a shady. I don't think

634
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: you'll ever get to this point, but let's say you're

635
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: a sort of shady in the shadows. Super wealthy fan Okay, yeah, okay,

636
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: not a booster officially, but you're no stranger to facilitating

637
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: under the table payments.

638
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: Okay.

639
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: I like blue chip recruits. Yeah, you're a bag man.

640
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: I like sorts and let's say for the point of

641
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: this exercise, all things are pretty even in terms of

642
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: what your team needs. So aside from quarterback, if you

643
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: and yours are giving yourself a budget of eight hundred

644
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars one point two million, four hundred

645
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: and eighteen thousand dollars, you give yourself a budget that

646
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 2: you're going to contribute to helping to pay out whatever families,

647
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: specific guys, charities, whatever, however, whatever means you're going through.

648
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 2: But you're budgeting what you like and what's important to you.

649
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: Where your money goes. Aside from quarterback, give me specific

650
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: player archetypes that you feel most strongly about investing in.

651
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: I am sinking all of my money into building the

652
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: two point zero of Empson's defensive line from twenty eighteen. Okay,

653
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: all of my money. It might not be the super

654
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Speaker 1: sexy plan, but it is, as we saw.

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Speaker 2: An enormo going out and getting a Jerry Judy.

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00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: No, it is an enormous competitive advantage. It stops the run,

657
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: it affects the pass. It's part of what truly has

658
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: set the SEC apart for all these years. Defensive line play. Plus,

659
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: if you can do what Clemson did and get three

660
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: defensive linemen drafted in the first round. You better believe

661
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 1: that moving forward. Yep, that's a position group that recruits

662
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: itself long into the future. Yeah, so I go defensive

663
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: line first and foremost. The way that it can change

664
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Speaker 1: a college football game is something that you can't put

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00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: a price tag on.

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00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: I've been scarred by a couple of pretty poor defensive

667
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: coordinators ty as an Oregon fan recently, the to the

668
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 2: Don Pellam and the Brady hoke eras. And thus I've

669
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: watched some bad linebackers. Okay, bad I should say bad linebackers.

670
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: I mean maybe they were, but bad linebacker play. And

671
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 2: there is something about a just nails inside or middle linebacker,

672
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: depending on the scheme you're running, gets everybody set, makes calls.

673
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: You know, run stuffer can drop into coverage. If I'm

674
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 2: talking about somebody on the level of potentially Patrick Willis,

675
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: Luke Keigley, somebody like that, I think that's where I am.

676
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: Just all the chips are going in that direction.

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00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: You get yourself like two or three Josh Allen's it's

678
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: not a bad play.

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00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: No, I mean he's sort of a stand up edge rusher.

680
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: But yes, I need line. I mean, you watch the

681
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: Ohio State Oregon National Championship game. I did not a

682
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 2: lot of Ezekiel Elliott tackling happening in that game with

683
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: an incredible defensive line with Eric Armstead and to Forrest

684
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: Buckner in front of them. So there is something immensely

685
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: personal about developing that. Like I want a neck roll.

686
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 2: I want a lot of pointing and yelling. I want

687
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: a lot of sideline towel waving. I want a lot

688
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 2: of celebrations on batted balls. I want that captain anchor

689
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: of a middle linebacker inside linebacker, and if he presents himself,

690
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 2: that's where I'm spending my cash.

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00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: Give me defensive line all day, every day.

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Speaker 2: Okay, reasonable.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting that neither one of us took offense with

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Speaker 1: this though.

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00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you can develop receivers. I think running

696
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 2: backs the injury risk is pretty high. I a Quentin

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00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: Nelson type sure thing inside there. That's gonna especially if

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00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: you are a team who's going to run a good amount.

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00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: That's very attractive. The road grader, Tie, road grader. Yeah,

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00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: you give me a Quentin Nelson type. I'm listening. I'm

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Speaker 2: Ty, can we make a quick announcement here?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Did I know we're about talking? I think we're done

730
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Speaker 2: talking college football for this show.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, do.

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Speaker 2: You have any other questions that you want to ask?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: No, actually, do we have one more? One more?

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Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, yeah, one more.

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Speaker 2: Sorry for the teas, and then we're moving on. Okay

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00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: from college football too, whatever our other nonsense. Somebody we

738
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: talked about how much we loved LSU's field. Oh yeah,

739
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: we talked about how the painted gradient I is just

740
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 2: so striking, and you love the five yard markers instead

741
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: of ten yard markers. How it was just this unique

742
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: quality when there's a lot of homogeneous named homogeneous, a

743
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 2: homogeneous nature to college football fields sometimes. And we actually

744
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 2: got an email from somebody who used to work on

745
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 2: the You saw this the field beautiful for LSU. Awesome,

746
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: Oh amazing, And he agreed with us. For the record,

747
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: he didn't correct this, He just gave us some more

748
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: details that there's no set design for there's no set

749
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Speaker 2: border for the eye. It's just sort of what happens

750
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 2: when they're painting it, and it's a autricate process.

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00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: I love it beautiful chaos.

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00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 2: Yes, what other fields in college football to you? So

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Speaker 2: anything between fans, So it could be you know, if

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Speaker 2: you love the hedges at Georgia, what fields to you

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Speaker 2: are the most striking that visually? Just do it for

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Speaker 2: you get your corneas all agog I would Dan, if

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00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: you'll indulge me. Mm hmm, like to construct my ideal field.

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00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, okay, your robofield.

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00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 1: We're not talking about stadiums, right, We're just talking about

760
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: the field of the field of play, the area the

761
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: immediate area around the field of play.

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00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So like if if a stadium has a

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Speaker 2: track like Washington used to have a track around, that's

764
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Speaker 2: because they okay, track and field. But if you like

765
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Speaker 2: that vision, you're like, hey, I like that throwback.

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Speaker 1: I think. I think what you know about me is

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Speaker 1: that I like things that stray a little bit from

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Speaker 1: the norm. Maybe not as much as you. Right, I

769
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: like straying from the norm, and I'm all about sticking

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Speaker 1: it to the man.

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00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: Yeah that's you.

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Speaker 1: I'm sticking mister rebel in an ideal world.

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00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 1: Give me the blue turf from Boise.

775
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, you're going for it.

776
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: Give me that sweet LSU Tiger gradient logo and and

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00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: the yard markings every five yards. M hm. I want

778
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: the hedges from Georgia and Sanford Stadium for my money.

779
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 1: Nothing better than a guy getting blasted into the hedges

780
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: at Sanford Stadium.

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00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: Yep. I And you have a bulldog on the field

782
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: that counts. I didn't think of that, but yes, sitting

783
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: on a mound of ice. Yes, so he doesn't overheat.

784
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got the Tennessee checkerboard in the end zone.

785
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 2: Love the checkerboards.

786
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: And because also if we're going to.

787
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Speaker 2: Talk on the power to on the midfield, yeah, well

788
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: I've already got my I know, I know midfield saying

789
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: Tennessee's field aesthetic is terrific.

790
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: Give me the checkerboard in the end zone. And I

791
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: don't know how sound fits into this equation. We're talking

792
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: about bulldogs and live mascots. But if it sound has

793
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: no dimension Dan, so it's tough to say how it

794
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: would fit into this equation. But I'm going to take

795
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 1: the soundtrack from Lane Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean that's not a that's not a terf situation.

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00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: I don't know how sound acoustics, Okay, sound that is

798
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: obviously great. But if I could, I'm going to say,

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Speaker 1: enter Samman from Laane Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Do you have trouble with any of the fields with

801
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: your vision? Sometimes I do not gonna watch ones. I

802
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 2: have trouble when it rains. So what happens when it rains?

803
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 2: When the browns and the greens? Oh, puddles really mess

804
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: you up?

805
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the typhoon games that we see the typhoon monsoon.

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00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: Excuse me? Yeah, so what does that look like to you?

807
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: It just all sort of looks the same.

808
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: It's a mess.

809
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: Okay, It's just like they're playing on a cow pasture,

810
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: which isn't wrong per se. It's just tough for me

811
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Speaker 1: to depict where the field stops and the football begins.

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00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 2: I love the shades of green, and that's obviously because

813
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: I've been to and I've watched so many Aughtson stadium games.

814
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: But I love the sort of lighter, darker green alternating.

815
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: And that's it's true at a number of stadiums. Yeah, nothing,

816
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: it's terribly unique to Ottson, But I do like that.

817
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: I like how you can sort of keep track of

818
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: yardage really easily that way.

819
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Speaker 1: On the fly.

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00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: I think North Carolinas field. I think that that tar

821
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: heel blue that they line it with, I think it

822
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 2: pops really nicely with the green turf. My Number one

823
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: is going to be the Rose Bowl field. I like

824
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Speaker 2: how they paint the sidelines up until whatever point with

825
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Speaker 2: the colors of the teams, and then you have that

826
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Speaker 2: the dark end zones that you know, it doesn't just

827
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Speaker 2: say Michigan or USC, it's that, you know, they have

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Speaker 2: the Michigan blue all throughout that end zone and the

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Speaker 2: cardinal of USC whatever. There is something that is incredibly

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00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: striking of the Rose in the middle of the field.

831
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Speaker 2: There is something just looking at that turf and not

832
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Speaker 2: even talking about the bowl, not even talking about the

833
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: San Gabriel Mountains, the angle with which we watch at

834
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: which we watch the game, it's a pretty low angle, right,

835
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl angle.

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00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you almost.

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Speaker 2: See blades of grass when you're watching it at you know,

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00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: I think ESPN probably about fifty sixty frames per second. Yeah,

839
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: So there is something about the Rose Bowl that is

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00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 2: so comforting turf wise, and I've walked on that turf

841
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 2: before a couple of different Rose Bowls. It's just it's magic.

842
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: And so that to me is probably my number one

843
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: overall field, but elements wise, I think you nailed the

844
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: other ones. I think LSU Tennessee. The blue turf doesn't

845
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 2: do as much for me, but I do like that

846
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: sometimes birds land on it thinking it's a pond making

847
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: its water. I enjoy that element of it. But outside

848
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 2: of that, I think those are all of my answers.

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00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if I'm not going Blue turf, I

850
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: think I'm with you on the Rose Bowl. And you're

851
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: right to point out the angle from which we watch

852
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl as a television viewer.

853
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 2: Do you hate any fields or any elements of any fields?

854
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 2: Do you know what? I absolutely love? And it's so

855
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 2: terrible because I love watching the team, and I love

856
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: the tradition around the field, and I love the colors

857
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: and everything that happens. I hate Clemson's end zone yea

858
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: so much. The Seraph's Sarah Clemson get out of here.

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00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: Hmm.

860
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: I think it's awful. I think it's tacky, and I

861
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 2: hate it.

862
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 1: I really feel that. I hate I need.

863
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: I hate the Clemson en zone. I don't know how

864
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 2: I feel about the Notre Dame en zone. I think

865
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: I'm mostly down on it. I'm anti Yeah, I think

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00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: I used to sort of like it and now just

867
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: like the slashes are just it's there, just to be there.

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00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: Let's let's update.

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00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: There is a very simple quality to the Notre Dame field,

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00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: right that I understand.

871
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 2: I like the turf of Notre Dame field. Do they

872
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: do they play on grass or they play on turf?

873
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: It's turf. Now. Yeah, I like the simple nature of

874
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: the field and I can understand why would be into that,

875
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: But it doesn't do it for me. Give me the checkerboards,

876
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: and I don't think Notre Dame needs to go ostentatious

877
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: with their end zones. No, no, no, of course not.

878
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 2: Just add a little let's let's go a little bit.

879
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: You know, if it were some sort of shamrocky design

880
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: in there, I think that'd be great. Listen, we've had

881
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 2: thoughtful shamrocks. We've had issues with the Shamrocks series and

882
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: the uniforms. I don't have any level of confidence that

883
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: they could pull off the shamrock in the end zone

884
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 2: on the home what about ty Stay with me here.

885
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 2: Pots of gold.

886
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 1: Pots are trying. It is the end of the rainbow

887
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: right right. Metaphorically speaking, I could go with that thoughtful,

888
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 1: classy pots of gold.

889
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: I think you're onto something there, Dan, all right, I'm

890
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 2: gonna give it some more thought, but I think Notre

891
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: Dame can do something that I'm.

892
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: Going to think more about stadiums I hate or fields

893
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 1: that I hate.

894
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: All Right, I think we're done with college football. So

895
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 2: if you don't want to keep listening, thanks for the download.

896
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 2: It's been a pleasure. Keep driving safely, don't max out

897
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 2: at the gym any anywhere beyond where you're comfortable. Take

898
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: a good nap on this flight. You've earned it.

899
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: Our friend Peter Hoffin might be on a flight. He

900
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: sent us a mess. You're on a flight this weekend. Well, Peter, Ty, here's.

901
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 2: Here's my first non college football question. But it's sort

902
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: of related to college football. If your future son or

903
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: daughter is recruited heavily by a college coach, wow, to

904
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 2: play whatever sports?

905
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: Wow? Good question? What? Well?

906
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 2: I haven't asked the question yet, but you see it

907
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: in front of you. Yeah, what means are you making

908
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: them during the end home visit? Okay, and it's not

909
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: like you need to impress them. They're already impressed with

910
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: your son or daughter, right, But what what is the

911
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 2: meal that you were going to say? Man, I, especially

912
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 2: if your son or daughter is really leaning towards Tennessee

913
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 2: basketball or USC tennis, whatever, and you want to make

914
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: that really you want to have that impression with the coach. Well, Dan,

915
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 2: and you cannot farm this out to mama. H I'm

916
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: not farming this south town. You know.

917
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: As I said earlier, some of my defining qualities, I

918
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: do like to stick it to the man right, just

919
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: sort of my mo wove to the fabric of my being.

920
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody knows this about you.

921
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: I also tend to overthink things. Yeah, so I would

922
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: probably approach this from a deep psychological standpoint. I don't

923
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: want to get too fancy with this dinner. Nor do

924
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: I really want to try and impress who's ever coming

925
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: over to the house. I want to try and get

926
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: them at their absolute weakest moment, most vulnerable moment, when

927
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: I can see truly into the soul of the coach.

928
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: I want something messy, and I want something informal. So

929
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: maybe a big greasy burger, maybe we make wings, maybe

930
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: we buy wings from down the street here. I want

931
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 1: something messy. I want something I can cook on the grill.

932
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: You want them rolling up their sleeves, rolling up your sleeves.

933
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: I've never done a boil, but maybe we do a

934
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: boil while you're out, something that's messy, dirty and informal

935
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: to get the coach at his or her most vulnerable state.

936
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: So I'm giving the coach an opportunity because I know

937
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 2: this is apparently the code amongst coaches. They are always

938
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: supposed to ask for seconds. Really always ask for seconds,

939
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 2: because it indicates to the parents, oh my god, this

940
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 2: meal you've prepared is so good. It's very flattering to

941
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 2: go to somebody's house and say, this meal is so good.

942
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: Could I possibly have more? Could I have the recipe?

943
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 2: And so that is a code amongst coaches. So I'm

944
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: going to do something that would make it so obvious

945
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: and I would allow them to ask for seconds. I'm

946
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: just making a giant panel lasagna. Yeah, and this is

947
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 2: why I don't want to spend too much time away

948
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 2: from the coach. I got a lot of questions, how

949
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: are you going to use my daughter in the triangle offense?

950
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: How are you going to is my son only to

951
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: play doubles? Is my son a three down running back?

952
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 2: I can answer that right now. Probably not no, probably,

953
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: And I just need that one pan, that one dish

954
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 2: meal that you just throw the noodles, you start layering,

955
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: you get your meat, sauce, you get some Italian sausage

956
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 2: in there, plenty of cheese. You just throw it in

957
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: the oven. You don't think about it. Maybe throw together

958
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: a salad, maybe some roast vegetables. But I don't want

959
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: to be doing too much. I want to be sitting

960
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: down with this coach and then just hear the timer

961
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: go off and then out comes the lasagna, and then

962
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: give the opportunity a coach to say, you know what,

963
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 2: if you don't mind, can I get that corner piece?

964
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: If you don't, if it wouldn't be too much trouble,

965
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,959
Speaker 2: because this is the best lasagna I've ever had. Could

966
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 2: you throw me the corner piece, throw me an edge,

967
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: that money edge. So I think lasagna is my answer.

968
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: Get to spend optimal amount of time.

969
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: Like it's a tough to answer.

970
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: Good answer, good answer, good answer. Okay, tie, This is

971
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 2: a question that I find myself having to answer, and

972
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: I don't answer it well. That often when you're finishing

973
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: up a meal at a decent or a nicer restaurant anniversary,

974
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: or just like, you know what, we need to go

975
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: on a Friday night date? Sure, we just go to

976
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: a couple are yeah, sure, and it's maybe it's one

977
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 2: of a little hipstery where everything is printed in like

978
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: a type or font on a piece of paper that's

979
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: four inches by eight inches. Those that kind of place,

980
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 2: they got truffle things tat. Yeah. Server asks you if

981
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 2: you'd like to see a dessert menu clearing your plates,

982
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: You guys interested, you want to take a look at

983
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 2: the dessert menu. You guys, save some room, save some

984
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 2: room for dessert. And so provided that you are not

985
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: on a diet, you nor Kate is on a diet

986
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 2: where you're not eating sugar, so you'd be open to

987
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: desserts if they had something interesting or if you were

988
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: in the mood. Is your response to that question? A?

989
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: You just answer quickly, know that you and Kate have

990
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 2: already sort of had the conversation your fall. Let's just

991
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 2: get the check. B. What do you think we're worth

992
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: a look? Are you? Are you deciding on the spot

993
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 2: with the server standing there waiting, Are you saying sure?

994
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 2: Why not? No matter if you actually mean it, Just

995
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 2: to see what the offerings are because maybe next time

996
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 2: you will be interested in that peach cobbler. Maybe it's

997
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: not for tonight, but you like to know what is

998
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: available at this establishment. Do you defer with like, you know,

999
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 2: I'm good, Kate, do whatever, obviously, if you feel like dessert,

1000
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: get dessert, but I'm good. Is that like your natural

1001
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 2: natural response or do you just defer to Kate?

1002
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 1: Either way, I defer to the second half.

1003
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 2: Right, So what is the most common what is your

1004
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 2: natural response to that question?

1005
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: My next is okay, So it multiple layers here, Dan,

1006
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: I went out to dinner for my anniversary recently.

1007
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 2: You got to read the room. That's a big part

1008
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 2: of it.

1009
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: You got to read the room. Yeah, I went out

1010
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: to dinner for my anniversary recently. I also went out

1011
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: for a belated Valentine's Day dinner recent In both those cases,

1012
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: because it was a special occasion occasion, I just went

1013
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: into that experience knowing that we were going to say, yeah,

1014
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: let's take.

1015
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: It headfirst into dessert. Yeah, let's just do this the

1016
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 2: special occasion. We're gonna do dessert for course meal. When

1017
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 2: it's not a special occasion, I think you have to

1018
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:09,720
Speaker 2: read the room.

1019
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Usually when we're in that kind of uncertain territory.

1020
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: Usually it's solid wife Kate being the first to speak up,

1021
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: and usually she's speaking up in a manner like, yeah,

1022
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 1: I think we save some room, or yeah, take a look.

1023
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 2: I've never considered room, by the way, as I'm eating

1024
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: my patty mess as I'm never eating my rotisserie chicken.

1025
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, never in a million years.

1026
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 2: Right.

1027
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: But it's usually her speaking up. Usually in that moment,

1028
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: I will defer to her, okay. And sometimes we just

1029
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: come away with coffee. Sometimes we don't come away with anything.

1030
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 2: Oh my god, look at you boldly drinking coffee at night.

1031
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: Usually I'm not the first to speak up. Usually in

1032
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: that moment, you defer to her. Yeah, okay.

1033
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 2: I will almost always ask to see the menu for

1034
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 2: the reason I gave where, even if I'm not feeling

1035
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 2: like dessert.

1036
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: Do future research?

1037
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 2: Love the note to know the lay of the land.

1038
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: I take forever at grocery stores time.

1039
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: How do you do with menus? Just in general? I

1040
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: find I have a d D with menus and.

1041
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 2: I go I will always, I will always, always always

1042
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 2: look up the menu before I go somewhere.

1043
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that.

1044
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 2: And there are places that you know, with changes by

1045
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: the night, whatever whatever is fresh, and whatever the chef

1046
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 2: is feeling like in terms of that night. But I

1047
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 2: generally go in with a great sense, so I'm good

1048
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: with menus.

1049
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: Can I can I admit to something here on the

1050
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 1: pom Rat since we're running yeah late here today. Yeah,

1051
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm very intimidated to place a dinner order in your presence.

1052
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: And I get that a lot, And I don't understand.

1053
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: I'm very intimidated by you just as a uh wow.

1054
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,959
Speaker 2: Just because you think I'm gonna judge your order.

1055
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: No, I'm afraid of the globe tomato situation. Oh you

1056
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: don't want to pronounce something. I will have a bowl

1057
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: of Raymond please, something like that.

1058
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 2: I how have your finest bull love? But you done.

1059
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm a little intimidated. I like you very much personally

1060
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: professionally you know this is working out, But when it

1061
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: comes to dining, I'm a little intimidated.

1062
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 2: So have you ever ordered either in front of me

1063
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 2: or in front of anybody else? You've been intimidated by

1064
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 2: something because you are more comfortable pronouncing it more so

1065
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 2: than that's what you actually wanted.

1066
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: You know, I can't think up a moment off the

1067
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: top of my head, but it definitely, it definitely seems

1068
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: like something I would do.

1069
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I'm sorry. Like I can't imagine that we've

1070
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 2: eaten at too many exotically named dish restaurants, but perhaps

1071
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 2: we have.

1072
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: Some of the Mexican places we went to when we

1073
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: were out in Arizona.

1074
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 2: There there were menu items that threw you.

1075
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: Do you have a greater command of the Spanish language

1076
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: than I do? I do, And there are there are

1077
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: l's that I may have pronounced that you knew to

1078
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 1: pronounces wise things.

1079
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: Please just tell me, Just tell me that you want,

1080
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 2: like say that, oh, I don't how does this pronounce?

1081
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 2: Is it tayuda? That kind of thing, and then we'll

1082
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 2: just go from there. I don't want you to not

1083
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 2: get something because you're shame over.

1084
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: This is a show about honesty. I just had that.

1085
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Speaker 2: Absolutely it is. I will always ask for the dessert menu.

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Speaker 2: And I am a little bit bummed that we've gotten

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Speaker 2: to a place where a lot of the time people

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Speaker 2: feel like, oh, dessert menu, which one dessert should we order?

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Speaker 2: Because dessert tastes are pretty varied. Do you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Like sometimes you'll like, you and Kate will get the

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00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 2: dessert menus and she'll be like, what should we get

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00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: the smores? Should we just go for it? But meanwhile

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00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 2: you're thinking, God, the blueberry tart is just calling my name.

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Speaker 2: But for whatever reason, we've gotten to this place where

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Speaker 2: you can only order one dessert. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: that's true of you and Kate.

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Speaker 1: If you're picking one dessert, what percentage of the time

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Speaker 1: would you say you are overruled by your wife? One

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Speaker 1: hundred one zero cero, I would say, I am. She

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Speaker 1: is literally undefeated again.

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Speaker 2: But I will I will just order a second dessert.

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Speaker 2: Generally that that's what will happen. If I'm feeling particularly

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Speaker 2: good about the lemon merangue pie and she's jonesing for

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Speaker 2: the berries or whatever. Yeah, it's like and throwing the lemons,

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Speaker 2: throwing the slice of lemon rang pie. Let's just solid.

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Speaker 1: Wife, Kate is undefeated against me in that conversation.

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Speaker 2: Oh, if you're just ordering the one, you are you

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Speaker 2: are merely a partner, You are merely a suggestion. You

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00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 2: are in, you are riding along, you are in the sidecar.

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Speaker 1: Give me, yeah, one or two more quick ones here.

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Speaker 2: If you were immediately thrust into one of the Property

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00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 2: Brothers jobs realtor, realtor real tour or contract tour, contractor,

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Speaker 2: which do you think you could more plausibly and successfully

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Speaker 2: navigate with zero experience and training.

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Speaker 1: I think it would have to be the real tour.

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Speaker 2: Why is that? I think I'm You're not delegating as

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Speaker 2: a realtor. You're just getting it done. Get money. You

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Speaker 2: need no market. You need to know negotiation tactics.

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Speaker 1: I think I could manage the negotiation tactics. Inspection stuff,

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Speaker 1: I think I could manage that. Okay, I think I

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Speaker 1: think I could do enough to muddle my way through it.

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Speaker 1: The problem with actually being a contractor is you've got

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Speaker 1: to build stuff or you got to know what to

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Speaker 1: delegate to people who've got to hire people. Yeah, you

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00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: got to you gotta know what you're looking for. And

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Speaker 1: as a first time homeowner, I'm telling you I don't

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Speaker 1: know what I'm looking for. Yeah, I could talk my

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Speaker 1: way into or out of most situations.

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Speaker 2: I would be terrible at both of these things. I

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Speaker 2: was just curious to see what you would say. I

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Speaker 2: would have to which one would you pick? Oh, I

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Speaker 2: would definitely be a realtor. You got to go the

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Speaker 2: same reason you could definitely talk your way into because

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Speaker 2: if I were to build a house with zero training,

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Speaker 2: there would be walls that would not align.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a fatality somewhere in there. Gosh, yes,

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00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: wait did we not dry wall? Did we not dry wall?

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Speaker 2: Is that on me?

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Speaker 1: I don't even want to look at those insurance?

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00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 2: But that would be every day term like termites plural, Yeah,

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01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 2: every day. So that's that's a good answer. Good answer.

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Speaker 2: Final question here, ty, what is something you definitely don't

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01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 2: need to spend a ton on but prefer the premium experience?

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01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 2: Excuse me? And what is something you refuse to spend

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01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: a ton on but others happily do?

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Speaker 1: Huh? This is sort of the Apple computer dilemma, right right?

1149
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely it is.

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01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: That would probably be a good answer.

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01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 2: Well, you spend a ton on electronics gear if you

1152
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 2: don't settle Yeah, any video gear.

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01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: Anything, electronics audio, that's.

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01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 2: You're setting up a possibly illegal surveillance system that is

1155
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 2: possibly illegal, possibly illegal surveillance anything anything electronic.

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01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: Usually I'm going overboard on that. So okay, what do

1157
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: you refuse to spend a lot on let's put it

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01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: this way. Anything that on Amazon also has an Amazon

1159
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: Basics option, I'm almost always going with the Amazon Basics option.

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Speaker 2: The high floor of Amazon Basics, whatever it is. I'm going,

1161
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 2: ever to cables. Do you own any Amazon pieces of clothing?

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Speaker 2: I don't have a brands. I don't yet, but I'm

1163
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 2: not against it. They're all right. I'm not gonna I'm

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01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 2: not gonna name drop names because they're not sponsored. But

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01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,479
Speaker 2: I've needed some a couple of things in a pinch,

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Speaker 2: all right. They do the job. I refuse to spend

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01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 2: money on parking. Parking, Oh, we've We've talked about this before.

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Speaker 2: I refuse, like there have I've driven in so many

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01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 2: cities with Jodie with an eye which it's like, oh,

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01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 2: there's just a lot right here, and it's twenty seven dollars. No,

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Speaker 2: I will feed that meter till I die. I'm not

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Speaker 2: paying money. I'm not paying like premium money for parking

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01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 2: ever ever ever Valet, Nope, there's a spot somewhere.

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01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: See. I had an awakening. I don't know why that is.

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01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: I had an awakening. Dane. We were planning our wedding

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01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: because I very much went into that of the mindset.

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01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to try and keep this as cheap as possible,

1178
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: nice and classy, sure to reflect our personalities in our lifestyle.

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01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: But I don't want to go overboard, and I certainly

1180
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: don't want to get fleeced on any of these things

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01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: that we're going to to buy.

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01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: I'm not paying money for flowers.

1183
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: And then I learned about these so called wedding tax

1184
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: and let me tell you, I came out of that

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01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: experience willing to pay fifty dollars for just about anything

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01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: in life. Since then, I have not been the same.

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01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: Before that, I was a lot more miserly. Now I'm

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01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: in a spot where it's tougher for me to answer

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01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: the question right. But I do like Amazon Basics. Anything

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01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: with an Amazon Basics option, I determined most of the time,

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01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm not willing to spend it. I'm going to go

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01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: Amazon Basics.

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Speaker 2: Would you advise somebody to not have a wedding? Yes,

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Speaker 2: I love the pregnant pause there. You would advise somebody's

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01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 2: city hall, then, like just like rent out the backyard

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01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 2: of a restaurant or something. If you can do with friends,

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01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 2: you can swing it, if you.

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Speaker 1: Can swing it without offending family, Yep, one hundred percent.

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01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: Go for it.

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01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 2: Have twelve people in your backyard. If somebody in your

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01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 2: family insists on a proper ceremony, use.

1202
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: That money towards a house, towards a car, towards whatever,

1203
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: a a trip around the world. Yeah, consider that if

1204
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: you can get out. I mean, do you feel the same.

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01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:41,439
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I loved my wedding, so that a phenomenal

1206
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 2: time at your wedding, at my wedding, whatever. But I

1207
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 2: would advise that just in terms of the headache and

1208
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 2: just what you could put that money towards. Did you

1209
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 2: did you.

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01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: Have a moment when you were planning your wedding m

1211
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: h where you looked at Jody with an eye and said.

1212
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 2: Fake my own death, change my identity.

1213
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: Did you ever look at her during the wedding planning

1214
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: process and say should we want to do this? Like?

1215
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: Maybe is it too late?

1216
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 2: What are we doing?

1217
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: No?

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01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 2: I did not have that moment. It was a great process.

1219
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 2: But if you have the freedom to do the city

1220
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 2: hall or backyard thing and then just do a thing

1221
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 2: with a bunch of friends, I'd say go for that.

1222
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 1: Go for that, man.

1223
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 2: I would say go for that. In terms of something

1224
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 2: that I insist on spending a premium for that. I

1225
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 2: don't need to. It's always food. It's always always food,

1226
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 2: and it's always I want to try as much as

1227
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 2: possible at restaurants, if that is not exceedingly obvious already, Yeah,

1228
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 2: I want if there are three appetizers that appeal to me,

1229
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 2: and I'm with one, two, three other people, and everybody

1230
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 2: just like what appetizers would we get? Like, no, let's

1231
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 2: get a B and C because who cares, let's just

1232
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 2: try it. All that to me is where I'm overspending

1233
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 2: always always, you know one other area, yeah, that I'm

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01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 2: finding now as a homeowner. M I just spent an

1235
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 2: arm and a leg to get new smoke detectors. Really

1236
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 2: I did, man, and I didn't need to.

1237
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: I'm finding that other things in that same vein, like

1238
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: just preventative home type stuff. Right. They really sell me

1239
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: on the value of peace of mind.

1240
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 2: That's a huge thing as I am now dealing with childcare. Tie,

1241
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 2: you're not paying for childcare.

1242
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: You're paying for peace of mind. Paying for that peace

1243
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: of mind. Yeah, that's where they get you.

1244
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 2: Super cheap in New York childcare, super duper. You wouldn't

1245
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 2: think it, but it is crazy cheap, all right, So

1246
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 2: that's that deal.

1247
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: You had all these questions for me. Yeah, you put

1248
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 1: me to the test. I'm running on e here. I

1249
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: gotta get some food in my belly. Same all because

1250
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: of your heart hitting questions. Next week, it's going to

1251
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: be my turn. I've got some good ones for you. Yes,

1252
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: I started thinking them up today.

1253
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,480
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Speaker 1: Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: You know what, Let's also do the cobbler. Yeah, let's

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Speaker 2: go crazy. Let's get the cobbler.

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Speaker 1: iTunes dot com slash Cliverble I think still works. We

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Speaker 1: That's all I got, Dan. Here's my final question to you, Ty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if people started tuning out thinking we were just

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Speaker 2: plugging reviews and subscriptions, would you say that you have

1289
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Speaker 2: been flirted with since getting married with certainty? This person

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Speaker 2: a man in whoever, Pat, I have been flirted with definitively. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: your answer is yes.

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Speaker 1: Uh no, I'm saying, was your answer yes, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: definitely I definitively.

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Speaker 2: I say definitely because I'm a stupid, stupid dude who

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Speaker 2: probably takes way too much as flirtation. But in my mind,

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Speaker 2: well in person, probably I will not say definitively yes. Online, yes,

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Speaker 2: I will say this in DMS have been slugged into.

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Speaker 1: In general, and the solid wife Kate would back me

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01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 1: up on this one. M I had no idea what

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Speaker 1: was going on round.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I tell Jody with an eye all the time,

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Speaker 2: like this person is DM me and is a getting

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01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 2: Oh oh, it's weird, look at this.

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01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: I have no idea my place in the universe, right,

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01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: and in general, I'm I'm pretty okay. And so I

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01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: think there was a lot of that going on before

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01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: I was married, and you just had no I had

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01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: no idea about the commodity here, that's right. The solid

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01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 1: wife had to tell me what was going on. Wow.

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Speaker 2: So so it wasn't even just flirtation. It was like

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Speaker 2: you were being hit on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I'm going to assume that to some

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01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 1: degree that's continued, I'm just not paying any attention to it.

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01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 1: I wasn't paying attention to it before.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Ty, first you call yourself a rebel,

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01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 2: Now you consider yourself a flirtation man, I mean.

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01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 1: That's what goes on. Wow. I have no idea, to

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01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,600
Speaker 1: be honest, but maybe.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted. I was curious if you had to

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Speaker 2: like diffuse the situation.

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01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,560
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no bombs have needed to be differed.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's good to know. I love hearing that.

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01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 1: Well, Dan, we've covered ground here, haven't we.

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be back next week. It's a long

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01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: slog of a collegeable offseason, and we're gonna do our

1327
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Speaker 1: best to try and make this as fun as possible.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned to all the social channels. Sign up for

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01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: that newsletter if you haven't already, leave us a review.

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01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: If you like the show, Daniel, you enjoy the rest

1331
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 1: of your week and your weekend.

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01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 2: Okay, hey you too, and order those desserts.

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01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: Come get on those desserts. I'm gonna go get some

1334
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: food now after this, fuel myself up for the long

1335
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: night of editing that surely is in front of me,

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Speaker 1: and I'll talk to you. I'm sure tomorrow I'll talk

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01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: to everyone out there.

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01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 2: What in a week, right, yep, next week.

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01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 1: In the meantime for that, go over there Dan for myself, Hi,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to y'all soon.

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Speaker 2: Stay solid, Peace,