1 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: M m M. What up. 2 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: Well, back in LA for another episode of All the Smoke, 3 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: my brother Matt in his state. 4 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: You know, I'm kind of visiting hire, but you know 5 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: we've been. 6 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 3: Doing always welcome. 7 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been doing We've been doing business so long enough. 8 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: But it's kind of home now, you know what I'm saying. 9 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 2: But especially episode today, Man, somebody who I admire, somebody 10 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: who I look up to my life has grown to 11 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: really understand him and to really know how to put 12 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: myself in the shoes. A lot of stuff that he 13 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: went through as a youngster during his career, it was 14 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: hard for us to understand because we wasn't in it. 15 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: My own experience is life has has opened me up 16 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: to really admire him and understand him and to really 17 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: want to be somebody that I call a friend and 18 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: a brother. Honored to have you on the show today, 19 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: the one and only Craig Hodges. 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 4: Yes, sir, please and blessings to everybody. 21 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 5: And it's like I said, I appreciate the invite, man 22 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 5: as you watching y'all from far y'all doing a great 23 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 5: job and it's something that's definitely vital for the people, man, 24 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 5: you know, and it's not just about our community, it's 25 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 5: about people in general and people who care about. 26 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: People appreciate you. So, how's life right now? What's going 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: on with you? 28 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 5: A man keeping it simple, you know, making sure that 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 5: training as many young players as I can, you know, 30 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 5: and at the same time doing as much mentoring from 31 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 5: a research and development and as I can. 32 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 4: You know, that's my passion. It was basketball and history. 33 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 5: So I continue to do my research and try to 34 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 5: maintain that student athlete mentality. 35 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: A lot of people throw the word blackballed around, white ball, 36 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it, and not really experience 37 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: it or not really understanding that. You are very familiar 38 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: with that. Can you talk about that? And when what? 39 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 2: And lot peo don't understand what being black ball from 40 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: the league means. 41 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. 42 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 5: One of the beautiful part for me and the whole 43 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 5: experience of it, is that I was blessed to go 44 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 5: to Long Beach State. 45 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 4: Text Wanner recruited me. 46 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 5: He was recruiting to me from Northwestern when I was 47 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 5: in Chicago playing basketball, and when I got a chance 48 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 5: to come to Long Beach State, I got a chance 49 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 5: to study black studies. And my first professor was doctor 50 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 5: Malina Karinga, the founder of Kwanza, And the first lesson 51 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 5: that we learned was why is everything that is negative 52 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 5: has a black connotation to it? Yes to found doctor Kringa. 53 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 5: So for for me, it was one of those things 54 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 5: where once again I was blessed to have texts who 55 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 5: came in and bought me out here. I knew I 56 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 5: wanted to go out here after watching all the UCLA 57 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 5: when I was growing up and watching them and being 58 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 5: in Chicago and low weather and looking out here in 59 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 5: palm trees and T shirts, That's where I want to go. 60 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 5: And when Tech's got the job at Long Beach, it 61 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 5: was a no brainer for me. And then when I 62 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 5: got here, I found Black studies because I wanted to 63 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 5: be a political science major. And when I got to 64 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 5: Long Beach, I had a chance to get Black studies 65 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 5: at my very first class, and that took me back 66 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 5: to what I learned in as far as the civil 67 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 5: rights movement was in Chicago Heights, Illinois and growing up 68 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 5: under segregation and seeing you know, Jim Crow when I 69 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 5: was a baby man, I couldn't sit at the lunch 70 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 5: counter with young white children who were getting their ice creams. 71 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 5: I had to take my ice cream outside with a 72 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 5: Milton hold down my arm, you know. But it was 73 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 5: one of those things that you know, we grew up 74 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 5: under it, but at the same time we realized that, 75 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 5: you know, it's something special for you in your life 76 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 5: if you work hard, if you study hard, and you 77 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 5: conduct yourself in a manner in which where you came from. 78 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 5: So our generation, I think about it. You know, every 79 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 5: time we left house, somebody was telling you be a 80 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 5: good boy, you know, and that meant something. It meant 81 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 5: something to the point that you know, as you go 82 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 5: further in life, you always want to make sure you 83 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 5: conduct yourself in a way that's you know, conduced it 84 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 5: to the growth not only of view but also the 85 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 5: people around you. So when I look at, you know, 86 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 5: the background and studies that I had at Long Beach State, 87 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 5: it almost prepared me for what was to come from 88 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 5: the white balling or the black balling, and you know, 89 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 5: the historical relevance of it, not just to me, but 90 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 5: whenever I speak about it, I always want to make 91 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 5: sure that I include mag Mood in it, and that 92 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 5: you know, Macmood, I'll do a rope and the path 93 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 5: that he was on even more so, than myself. You know, 94 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 5: I feel like I could probably win another three or 95 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 5: four three point titles and maybe a couple more rings. 96 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 5: But the path that mcmove was on from a personal 97 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 5: development and a personal career level where he could have 98 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 5: went in as far as the amounts of points that 99 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 5: he could score and score against the best defenders in 100 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 5: the game and it not be an issue. It was 101 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 5: almost you look at him and then if you go 102 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 5: watch him do his drill work, he was doing drill 103 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 5: work when he was playing. So for me to understand 104 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 5: the reality of you know, when you stand up for 105 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 5: a position that is not conducive to the growth of 106 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 5: white supremacy, racism and understanding the boundaries of it, understanding 107 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 5: the economic impacts of it, understanding that within the realm 108 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 5: of where we are, that that's the civilization that we're under, 109 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 5: you know, and that in that, should I continue to 110 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 5: want to thrive in that? Or should I want my 111 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 5: children to have something better? And the only way it 112 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 5: can get better is if we build it. It's not, 113 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 5: you know, And that's the cool part of having the 114 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 5: historical perspective and knowing that when we study African history 115 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 5: and African origin of civilization. We know that every other 116 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 5: civilization sprang from that, So we have the right and 117 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 5: the responsibility to build something right now that's relevant for 118 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 5: not only our children. And that's the cool part about 119 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 5: where we are today in history is that it has 120 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 5: become such a melting pot with the Internet. Is that 121 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 5: we are the world now, you know what I'm saying, 122 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 5: And that righteous people of good thought and peace and 123 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 5: love can conduct themselves together now and it becomes a 124 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 5: conscious movement that it's almost unstoppable. 125 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 6: To really kind of understand your story, I want to 126 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 6: take it back to where it started. Chicago, as you 127 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 6: mentioned earlier, you know, towards the end of the Gym 128 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 6: Crow era. What was it like for you growing up 129 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 6: in that area? 130 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 5: Man, I tell people I had to have this child 131 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 5: of anybody that I could, you know, think about because 132 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 5: even though we were segregated at that time, when in 133 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 5: Chicago Heights you couldn't go past Houston Street and they 134 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 5: would always tell us, not knowing as a child growing up, 135 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 5: when your chance to tell you make sure you back 136 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 5: on the other side of the hostel before six, you know, 137 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 5: before it get dark. And we didn't know the reason why, 138 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 5: but that was a line of demarcation in Chicago Heights 139 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 5: for us, and that to realize that, okay, everything that 140 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 5: got over there got over here, and when it comes 141 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 5: time for us to keep peeped against one another, they 142 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 5: ain't even close. So it was a matter of us 143 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 5: realizing that, you know, my aunt who was you know, 144 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 5: Lord rest of Soul, my god mom as well. 145 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: She was one of the top teachers. 146 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 5: So her whole class that left Chicago Heights to go 147 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 5: to Illinois State to learn how to teach, they all 148 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 5: came back and taught us. So the community that I 149 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 5: grew up in, I would go to the corner store 150 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 5: and I would see my math teacher. So it was 151 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 5: truly a community where everybody knew everybody. 152 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 4: And when you. 153 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 5: Think about that period of time and you just talk 154 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 5: about it, even on a professional level, when you think 155 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 5: about the Celtics having to go south to go past 156 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 5: the Jim Crow line and they ain't letting them, you know, 157 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 5: you can't stand the same hotel and all of that. 158 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 5: So I was part of that, but as a baby 159 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 5: and seeing it growing up from the standpoint talking to 160 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 5: my granddad. He was the first black track captain at 161 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 5: bloom High School. In Chicago Heights, and he said he 162 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 5: couldn't play football or baseball because you had to touch 163 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 5: a white person. So the lines of segregation, the demarcation 164 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 5: was so tough that a lot of people don't realize 165 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 5: it as we move away from this thing and we 166 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 5: think that everything is in a vacuum and that you know, 167 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 5: people tied its shed blood. I remember nineteen sixty eight 168 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 5: waking up in the morning, turning on WGN News and 169 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 5: seeing Fred Hampton and Mark clark apartment as a you 170 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, So they tell us oftentimes the 171 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 5: memories that we have as children are ones that are 172 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 5: so hard on you. 173 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 174 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 5: So I recall and the cool and not cool. But 175 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 5: the critical point to be made is how the media 176 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 5: portrayed that in such a way that made sure that 177 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 5: you saw it as a baby. They didn't try to say, okay, 178 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 5: like now they say, okay, what you're getting ready to see, 179 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 5: you can cover up your children's eyes and then it's 180 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 5: getting ready to come on. 181 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 4: It wasn't none of that. 182 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 5: It was like seeing the chief of police walking here 183 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 5: with all these police and you're seeing bloody mattresses, you 184 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 5: seeing all of this as a child, and you're saying, man, 185 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 5: why is it that this is happening to us, and 186 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 5: not realizing that it's a systematic condition. 187 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 4: That is something that you don't have to you can 188 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 4: you don't have to partake in it. You have to 189 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 4: study it. 190 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 5: But now when I have, when I become an adult 191 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 5: and become worthy of a paycheck, and once again that's 192 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 5: paid to be checked, but being worthy of an income, 193 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 5: should that income not be put in a maunder that 194 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 5: can help other people get out of that, because then 195 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 5: I think that's one of the things that we missed 196 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 5: when i'm you know, we're talking about that, Jim Correyra. 197 00:09:54,720 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 5: But even even the educational process, the u mental part 198 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 5: of it, like Malcolm said, we've been bamboozled, you know 199 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, and that the brainwashing, the brainwashing and 200 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 5: the brain mechanisms. So for me, I always think about 201 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 5: when they say three fists of human being, what parts 202 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 5: did y'all leave away from me? 203 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 4: What is that for me? 204 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 5: When I study it? It's God in tongue. You know 205 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 5: that you gave me this man Shaquille type man. We 206 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 5: got all of that, But what are we thinking about? 207 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 4: What tongue. 208 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 5: Do we have to think from you know what I'm saying, 209 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 5: so in the manifestation of coming through what we came 210 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 5: through as a people. And that's one thing always, since 211 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 5: I was eighteen years old and even younger, I think 212 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 5: that I've always tried to make sure every single day 213 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 5: I think about those who are less fortunate than me. 214 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 5: And when I was eighteen nineteen twenty, I thought it 215 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 5: was a black thing. No, no, it's a people thing. 216 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 5: Nobody should suffer. 217 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: You know. 218 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 5: I was watching yesterday doing some research which for what 219 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 5: we're doing here today, Brothers, I saw Tupac and it 220 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 5: was a four minute, four minute and fifty five second 221 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 5: interview that he was doing with MTV and he was 222 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 5: talking about the billionaire class, and it was so cold. 223 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 5: What he was saying was if I got all of 224 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 5: his bread, why do I need all these houses? 225 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 4: Why can't I help some people? 226 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 5: And that's the beautiful part where for me, I think 227 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 5: about my grandmom, who to me is the most saintly 228 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 5: person that ever walked to earth, and I'm sure all 229 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 5: of my grandmamas. And that's the part I think that 230 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 5: we missed in the early part of our movement, that 231 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 5: we were so man man man black man black, as 232 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 5: opposed to seeing how much the sisters who birthed us all, 233 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 5: where are they adding this divinity thing? 234 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: You feel me? 235 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 4: Because that's where we are. 236 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 5: We're in the age of Aquarius now, so a lot 237 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 5: of this information is coming through sisterhood and we have 238 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 5: to respect that for what it is, because we had 239 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 5: our chance, brothers, and we didn't do what we were 240 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 5: supposed to do with it, even though it's a divine 241 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 5: time and things. So I think a lot of even 242 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 5: even to the point of what we do with our wealth, 243 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 5: how we manifest ourselves. 244 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 4: You know this what y'all doing, brothers all. Don't y'all 245 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 4: don't y'all. 246 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 5: Realize it because y'all solid brothers, and y'all know what 247 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 5: y'all doing. 248 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 4: But this is so important, this whole. And you know 249 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 4: how you. 250 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 5: See stuff from the outside and you have a so 251 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 5: I see it from the outside, and I've been checking 252 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 5: y'a out and then when y'all give them my guy 253 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 5: sign and say let's do this thing, and then to 254 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 5: come and see the production factor in it. It's so 255 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 5: powerful and it's so powerful that this is something I 256 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 5: want my baby boy to come see this because he 257 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 5: loves music and all of this type of stuff, and 258 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 5: that this is what we need because this is what 259 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 5: we didn't have. And these were the type of programs 260 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 5: that when we won championships in Chicago, this is what 261 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 5: I feel we could do that as opposed to saying, Okay, 262 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go to Rush Street or I'm gonna go 263 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 5: do this, and I'm gonna do this. Hey man, what 264 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 5: would happen if we organized ourselves as a championship unit 265 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 5: and stayed in the city we was in until we 266 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 5: go back to training camp. What type of programs like 267 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 5: this could we build for every city in America? And 268 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 5: likewise we all retired players. Now, that's one of the 269 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 5: things that I'm hollering at the retired players about is 270 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 5: how can we connect ourselves to the players that are 271 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 5: playing now and we be able to run programs through 272 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 5: the retired players who are in local places that can 273 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 5: do things over sustained period of time, as opposed to 274 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 5: it being me coming in doing the camp and then 275 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 5: I'm gone, you know what I'm saying. 276 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 4: So I appreciate what y'all. 277 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 5: Doing, man, and for me to share whatever information we 278 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 5: can share right now to this next generation. It's critical 279 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 5: because if we don't, they coming after whatever little bit 280 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 5: you got. 281 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: I think it'll be more beneficial, Like you said, if 282 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: the tired players that want to give that education, that 283 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: want to give that game back, can set up some 284 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: ground roots foundation and where they live exactly because there'll 285 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 2: be more organic, they can spend more time and they 286 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: can get them with the kids to get more out 287 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:11,599 Speaker 2: of it. 288 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: That makes all the sense in the world. 289 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 5: Yes, man, And that's that's the part where we have to, 290 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 5: you know, we have to. One of the things that 291 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 5: I like is that when we play sport, we know 292 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 5: how cooperative you have to be to win, you know. 293 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 5: So when I hear this whole conversation about the goat, 294 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 5: I say, there's only one goat, and that's Bill Russell 295 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 5: to me, because he won, he taught people to win. 296 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 5: And when we put on these shorts in these uniforms 297 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 5: and go through layups and all of. 298 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 4: That, we're trying to win. 299 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: Man. 300 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,359 Speaker 5: So we can talk all of this about an individual's 301 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 5: stat or whatever. That's cool, but in the long run, 302 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 5: if you ain't a swimmer or running a sprint, you 303 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 5: and this as a group and the group, and that's 304 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 5: part of the civilization. I think about us when we were 305 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 5: winning championships in Chicago and we're talking about Pip and 306 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 5: how we became part of Michael and Michael and the Jordanaires, 307 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 5: and how we were cool with it because we understood 308 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 5: it as a in the locker room, so we could 309 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 5: we would We're gonna support you, brother, to make sure 310 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 5: that you can get what you get, you know what 311 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 5: I'm saying. But don't discount the fact that let's give 312 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 5: Pip fifteen oh trips, Let's give Horse another five trips, 313 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 5: Let's give Hodds another five or six jumpers, and let's 314 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 5: see how we can melt this thing out. And then 315 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 5: I think, so when we were speaking in terms of, 316 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 5: you know, watching my brother Pip and you know, watching 317 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 5: some of the stuff that's going on, you know, it's 318 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 5: sad to me that we having fostered that brotherhood like 319 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 5: y'all got you know what I'm saying. And that's the 320 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 5: part that I think. That's what I thought when we 321 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 5: came When I came in the league in nineteen eighty two, 322 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 5: one of the first people to hit knowledge on me 323 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 5: was Bill Walton, loving loving to debt to this day 324 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 5: and he told me, say, Hi, look here, you're a 325 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 5: hooper man. I don't care how much you go through 326 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 5: this thing and get to management. Always be on the 327 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 5: side of the players because they are the game. And 328 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 5: that's what I feel like. I feel like we are 329 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 5: the game. So we have so much to offer still 330 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 5: to the game, and likewise, I feel like we can 331 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 5: be more influential in the way that the game is going. 332 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 5: So when I look at Okay said, I delineate we 333 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 5: got basketball, then we have management basketball. So management basketball 334 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 5: in the NBA where I see it now is analytics 335 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 5: and that type of thing. Over here, we're saying, how 336 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 5: do we make the best team and what is the 337 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 5: compliments that I can make in chemistry to make this 338 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 5: thing work? 339 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 4: I look at probably and Matt. 340 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 5: You know, it's at least and the same thing with you. 341 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 5: You know when you down there with Pop, so much 342 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 5: of what Pop is doing this triangle, you know, So 343 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 5: when we look at hit that thing dropping in ten 344 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 5: dunk and go over there, that's you know what I'm saying. 345 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 5: But now the game is such I would love to 346 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 5: see Joel and be against James Edwards, Bill Carr, right, 347 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 5: somebody is running block to block. Will Chamberlain would have 348 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 5: loved to guard Joel and Bad at three point line 349 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 5: because now I only got to run it there, and 350 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 5: now you got to run down. 351 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 4: Here, and you're gonna have to take this beating. 352 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 5: And that's the thing that it's you know, I love 353 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 5: I love the conversation, no dis on and beating. And 354 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 5: I'm not using that as an example. I'm just using 355 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 5: it in the way the game is played. When I 356 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 5: think I was watching a conversation that Kobe was having 357 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 5: and he said that it's accidental basketball and that when 358 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 5: he said that, I was like, wow, that is so 359 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 5: profound because when I look at the way the game 360 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 5: is played and me playing off of Michael Jordan not 361 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 5: a triangle, as opposed to me playing out of playing 362 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 5: with Michael Jordan out of isolation basketball, it was a 363 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 5: total difference. 364 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 4: When we as in isolation, I'll be over there off 365 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 4: the ball. 366 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 5: When is it coming? Is it gonna come? Now we 367 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 5: know in triangle that when that thing coming, it's gonna 368 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 5: be there, and it's. 369 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 6: Gonna They still might shortcut it. But if they don't 370 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 6: shortcut it, you're gonna get it. 371 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 4: You're gonna get it. Wide open. 372 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 5: And that's the beautiful part of the system itself, is 373 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 5: that it lent himself to everybody getting touch it. So 374 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 5: everybody gonna play D. Everybody gonna play D. So let's 375 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 5: go the other way. Somebody gonna get it touch with, 376 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 5: somebody gonna you know what I'm saying. So when we 377 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 5: was talking about Matt and I was having a conversation 378 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 5: about Pip and I told him, I said to me, 379 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 5: once Scotty became one of the. 380 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,719 Speaker 4: Fiftieth best, his level of confidence. 381 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 5: Not necessarily the way he played, He's playing that top fifty. 382 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 5: Before then, he just didn't know it, you feel me. 383 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 5: He was under the influence of twenty three that this 384 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 5: is how you do it, this is how. 385 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 4: You do it. That is how you do it. 386 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 5: I'm gonna drop you something, just how you do it. 387 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 5: So he little brother man, when he became top fifty, 388 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 5: it became. 389 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:10,239 Speaker 4: What let's go. 390 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 5: And I think to some degree that's still there in 391 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 5: that little rift. They haven't but you know, LRD willing 392 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 5: it'll come together because everybody got children and grand babies. 393 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 4: Now, man, we're too old for that shit. You know 394 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. We were too old, We too old. 395 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 4: We're too old for that. Now we're elders. 396 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 5: Now we're older, just to the point where we got 397 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 5: to be able to give something back in the level 398 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 5: where hey, man, if I can't give it to you, 399 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 5: And see, I think you know the economics of America, 400 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 5: the economics of. 401 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 4: What is success? Isn't me having a billion, isn't me 402 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 4: having one hundred thousand, isn't me having a hundred? 403 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 5: What is so in this thing? They put that idol 404 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 5: in front of us, and we all chase it so much. 405 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 5: And when I when I leave money on. 406 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 4: The table, it can be tough. 407 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 5: And I think many times that when we leave money 408 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 5: on the table, money's left on the table, that those 409 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 5: little frackings come out, and then we have chaos because. 410 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 4: Can't nobody teach it but me? And don't nobody want 411 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 4: to allow me to teach? And I'm cool with that. 412 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 5: I can tell you right now, my son is teaching 413 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 5: that in Pasadena Polytechnical High School. My oldest boys teaching 414 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 5: triangle over there. 415 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 3: Cope taught his daughter the triangle. 416 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 4: It's the easiest game. 417 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 5: This is the craziest part. It's the most fundamental system. 418 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 5: You're going to get soon as you walk in the door. 419 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 5: That's foot work. Then we go into our real footwork. 420 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 5: Then we pick up a ball. Now we're in the 421 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 5: ball handling. 422 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 4: That's what you're gonna do naturally if you walk into 423 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 4: a gym and pick up a ball. So it's certain 424 00:20:53,720 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 4: things that text was able to figure out on a straight, straight, straight, 425 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 4: basic level. I wish everybody would had a chance to 426 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 4: be at Long Beach State for the four years that 427 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 4: I spent there. 428 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 3: Was it was it triangle off the rip? What do 429 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 3: you mean with texts? 430 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 4: Oh, yes, it was. 431 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 5: It was, And it is the cold part about it, 432 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,719 Speaker 5: Like I had it four years in college. So I 433 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 5: tell people to feel one how many championships, twelve or 434 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 5: whatever you want, with only a third of the system 435 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 5: because we didn't have to play against full court, you 436 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So in college you're playing against 437 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 5: full court. We planned try and go right from out 438 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 5: of bounds. So it's it's cold. It's a cold system. 439 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 5: And for me, I'm like every team that I coach, 440 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 5: that's what I teach. 441 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 2: But what I'm saying, you run the triangle otter out 442 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: of bounds. I'm putting it together. I'm visualizing, think about it. 443 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:45,239 Speaker 5: Okay, think about it. And the way we set up 444 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 5: against Press was we is four cross, two at the elbow, 445 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 5: two on the wings. So now that wing pop, I 446 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 5: hit and I go through. 447 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: To the corner, half court flash middle. 448 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 5: It's man and it's And that's the cool part about 449 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 5: I'm so glad I played the game. When I played 450 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 5: the game, you know, we all had handles, we had 451 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 5: taps or whatever you want to call it. We had that, 452 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. But the game was played 453 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 5: where I got a cat at six', Nine i'm six. 454 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 5: Two were gonna look inside before we look, Outside So 455 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 5: i'm coming. 456 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 4: Down i'm dropping that. 457 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 5: In SO i, SAY i would love to See Steph 458 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 5: curry try to play with one of The biggs back 459 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 5: in the day with a grab. 460 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 4: Rebound, no, no, no come. 461 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 5: BACK a young, man come, in a young man, Here 462 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 5: hold that, down wait TILL i get down. 463 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 4: There and that's what you got when you came into 464 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 4: the league as a. Rookie, yo, man what you're running 465 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 4: down there so? 466 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 2: Fast fuck young, fella young, fella hold, Up. 467 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 5: Hold that, up Because i'm getting. It i'm down there 468 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 5: doing this dirty, work you. Know hold up TIL i 469 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 5: get down, there you, know so it's a it's a different. 470 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 5: Game but once, again everything is in. Cycles and you, 471 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 5: Know I'm, matt how many teams in the league could 472 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 5: probably be competitive on a championship level with. 473 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 4: Triangle but you, Know tex saw us is. 474 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 5: One of the first things you taught. Us he, Say, 475 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 5: man you dribbling from here, Today i'm gonna pass it 476 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 5: to get that. Quicker so we dribbling, around dribbling. AROUND 477 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 5: i WATCHED i watched the game and somebody dribbled almost 478 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 5: a whole twenty four second clock and got like three 479 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 5: screening rolls at the. 480 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 4: Top didn't chick come off of, it and now you 481 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 4: got a. Lunch And i'm, like that's not basketball to. 482 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 5: ME i think we were talking to practical especially paying under, 483 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 5: pop and feel you weren't gonna play. 484 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 4: If you weren't playing practical. Basketball you know What i'm. 485 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 5: Saying if you shooting the thirty, foot this should be 486 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 5: at the end of a clock or at the end 487 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 5: of a. 488 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 6: Quarter that's WHY i feel, LIKE i, mean this this 489 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 6: generation is very, skilled BUT i feel like they lack 490 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 6: the the thinking of the game because like you said, that. 491 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 5: And you think about, it one of the great parts 492 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 5: about all of us had we had we had a 493 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 5: chance to play at the, park you know What i'm. 494 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 5: Saying so now instead of playing at the, park they're 495 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 5: with a dribbling coach there with the head and did 496 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 5: with a strength and conditioning. 497 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 4: Coach so all of you only got so much time. 498 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 5: To do whatever we're doing playing, Man and that was 499 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 5: the thing that we were, learning and we were learning 500 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 5: to play against bigger people playing with you you younger 501 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 5: playing against older, guys so you learn to play against 502 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 5: through through contact and. Everything where now it's like you 503 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 5: know you're gonna and then when when they set up 504 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 5: THESE aau programs and such where you're getting the top 505 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 5: five from over, here come with top seven over, here 506 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 5: and now we're gonna go and just dominate every. Place 507 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 5: but nobody's working on what their weaknesses. Are you, know 508 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 5: everybody's trying to. Win we're trying to win for. It 509 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 5: and that's WHY i tell people now WHENEVER i mentor 510 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 5: any young folks and their, parents is that you only 511 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 5: have so many games in your. Body and WHEN i say, 512 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 5: Games i'm saying when you put on a when a 513 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 5: referee is out, there when you walk into the, gym 514 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 5: and you smell, Popcorn you're adrenaline started. Rushing you put 515 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 5: on a, uniform the whistle blows and the clock. Starts 516 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 5: that's different than Scrim you only got so many of 517 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 5: them in your. 518 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 4: Life, now if you're an up and. 519 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 5: Coming player and you look like you're going, SOMEWHERE i 520 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 5: want them to be from twenty. 521 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 3: Two save And i'm trying to tell you twenty. 522 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 4: Two to thirty. TWO i don't want you to be. 523 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 4: There oh my son is the top eighth. 524 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 6: Grader, okay, Hey i'm we got to edit this part 525 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 6: that that's been my whole thing with my, twins and 526 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 6: like the homies can, contest like there's no point in 527 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 6: being the best six fifth grade or sixth, gade or 528 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 6: seventh graderor eighth. 529 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: Grade like you want to. 530 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 6: Start peaking at eleventh, grade twelfth grade through college, exactly 531 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 6: that's when and then you hit your physical. Peak, yes 532 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 6: and to late twenty so it's it's a, marathon not a. 533 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 6: Spread and so many people these days BECAUSE i coach 534 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 6: au and obviously you still, coaching it's about my son's ranked, 535 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 6: this and it's just, This AND i tell you know 536 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 6: how many People i've seen ranked, man never do, anything 537 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 6: never never heard of them. Exactly that's the part of 538 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 6: it's the, bill it's the constantly chop, wood carry. 539 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 3: Water let's just get a little bit better each. 540 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 5: Time and then that's the, thing, man is that and 541 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 5: to be able to give that. 542 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 4: Guidance and that's the part Where i'm. 543 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: Like, yes and you got the answer to the test, already, yes. 544 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 5: And if you Get and that's LIKE i tell young 545 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 5: folks When i'm working with, Them i'm, Like, Okay i'll 546 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 5: work with, you AND i tell their Parents i'll work with. 547 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 5: Y'all but if they're a, knucklehead we only got one, session, 548 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 5: Okay And i'm gonna know if your knucklehead or she's a, 549 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 5: knucklehead because they gonna think they already. 550 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 4: Know and if that's the, case then you don't need, 551 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 4: me you know What i'm. 552 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 5: Saying so let's just go on ahead and understand that 553 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 5: the fundamentals are the, fundamentals and let's grind on. Those 554 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 5: like you, say let's grind on those. Fundamentals let's see 555 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 5: how much work we can put in with older, people 556 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 5: see where you, know see where we can bring you. 557 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 4: Along and then you go back and going to. 558 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 5: WORKSHIT i tell PEOPLE i feel LIKE i became the 559 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 5: shooter THAT i am BECAUSE i shot so much by 560 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 5: myself and THAT i never got bored and still to this, 561 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 5: DAY i don't get bored with seeing the ball go 562 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 5: through the basket the same way BECAUSE i do it 563 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 5: the same. Way and that me and me and my 564 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 5: son would have battles because he would get caught in His, 565 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 5: kobe he'd get. 566 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 4: Got in the. 567 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 5: COLD i was, Like, bro you didn't hit twenty in 568 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 5: a row and now you want to. 569 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 4: Fade why not make the twenty first? 570 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 5: One because for, me it's not the twenty first or 571 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 5: one hundred, first it's just that. 572 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 4: One and how DO i make sure that every single 573 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 4: jump is just? 574 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 5: One and Now i'm putting all of this into this 575 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 5: single one and That and that's when WHEN i was 576 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 5: working With, KOBE i would have to remind him our 577 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 5: word was, extension Because cob shot so many, balls not 578 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 5: just shooting, him but thinking about shooting, him that he 579 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 5: was always on to the next. One And i'm, like, no, 580 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 5: bro stay there with that, one because when you did, 581 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 5: that stated until you see that shit go, in and 582 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 5: then we are and you go still then come back 583 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 5: and do it, again you know What i'm, saying and 584 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 5: again and again and that and that was the part 585 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 5: THAT i loved, with you, know working with, him was 586 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 5: that his his mental focus and his Preparation BEFORE i 587 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 5: go out, THERE i want to make sure THAT i 588 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 5: have all. 589 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 4: The bases covered possible BEFORE i strap them. 590 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 5: On and then WHEN i strap them, On i'm gonna 591 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 5: have that connected with, that it's gonna be. 592 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 4: Ugly it's gonna be. 593 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: UGLY i got to steal that When i'm talking to 594 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: my uh my daughter's, team just the one make all 595 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: them shots one. 596 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 4: Shot, Yes and that's the and that's the hardest. 597 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 6: Part we're gonna we're gonna touch on this a little. 598 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,479 Speaker 6: Later but you told me something THAT i thought was, 599 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 6: crazy super. Fascinating what's the difference you play with him 600 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 6: and you coach With phil and work With. Kobe what's 601 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,479 Speaker 6: the difference between those two in your? 602 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: Opinion right? 603 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 4: Hand? 604 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 5: Why because What kobe would be going to the line 605 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 5: to shoot, too M j was going to shoot and 606 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,239 Speaker 5: one so a lot of them knocks That kobe had 607 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 5: to shoot with two hands when that. 608 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 4: Knock what? HAPPENED? Mj put that bad boy over? 609 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: Here you? 610 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: Know, oh that's the. Difference, okay, okay, OKAY i didn't hear. 611 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 7: That that's that to me is the only difference is 612 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 7: that gripper that gripper because, Man i'm telling YOU i 613 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 7: haven't seen his. 614 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 5: Brother make like hes going to do a crossover and you. 615 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: Come, on, man that's a myth right? Now? 616 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 5: Bro come, on, Man i'm telling him And DOCTOR j 617 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 5: the them. Hands, Yeah, bro you know What i'm. 618 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 4: Saying it's. 619 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 5: Certain it's. Certain and that's the way you, say like 620 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 5: the creator knows who should have. 621 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: Exactly you can't question, them. 622 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 5: You know What i'm, saying what they? What this is 623 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 5: what you're gonna need to. Do what you got in 624 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 5: your mind you're gonna, do and there it, is go for. 625 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 5: It and then you Have KOBE mj that Engined. Westbrook 626 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 5: when you look at people Like John moran who had, 627 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 5: that when you'd be, like that's a different. 628 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 4: Engine you know What i'm, SAYING i can. Work Like 629 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 4: i'm telling, YOU i was with Him jay four and 630 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 4: a half seasons or. Whatever never lost a, suicide, mm 631 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 4: never never. 632 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: Lost, Never it's. Crazy. 633 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 4: Never, no. 634 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: That's hard to. Believe some DAYS i don't feel. 635 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 5: Like and we would Ask phil how many we got after, 636 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 5: practice and he would ask us how many we. 637 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,239 Speaker 4: Want because we knew he knew we was trying to get. 638 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: Him mm. Hmmm so it would be. 639 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 4: It would be like, this all, right me and bj 640 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 4: we're gonna go out hard on. 641 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: Him are? 642 00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 3: Y'allways team up on? 643 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 4: It leave as soon as a whistle. Blow as soon 644 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 4: as a whistle, Blow he damned it coming back at. 645 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 4: Us if you feel me on the rail and this 646 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 4: ain't no this ain't this ain't no, job And i'm. 647 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 4: RUNNING i feel LIKE i could run all. Day you 648 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 4: feel me and quick and quick, hands some. 649 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 5: Speed but, man it wasn't even it wasn't even fair 650 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 5: on the rail and honestly checked us. Out kobe rehabit 651 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 5: and we And anaheim getting ready to play a preseason, 652 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 5: game right so going through our workout before every other 653 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 5: team comes out and then the other team get ready 654 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 5: to come. 655 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 4: Out he's like watch, this Hotch like what he's, like watch? 656 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,239 Speaker 5: This he get on the sideline and started running like 657 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 5: he us saying boat up and down the sideline where 658 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 5: the other team coming out to. 659 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 4: Shoot they can't even look they're looking at him because 660 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 4: he running like he's eating the. 661 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 5: Lines you know What i'm, saying and that's the temperament 662 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 5: that He Jan cass can talk. 663 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 4: About talk about something different and you're. 664 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 5: Crazy so when we when we got with The, lakers 665 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 5: we go to a wife for our first training. Camp 666 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 5: were on the, plane he tapped me on the. Shoulder, 667 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 5: man when we get, IN i want to have lunch with. You, 668 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 5: okay get, in go, downstairs we have. Lunch it was all, about, 669 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 5: man how did M j make people? 670 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 4: Better what was he? Like and THEN i had never 671 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 4: seen any practice sign. Practice it was like Watching MICHAEL whoa. 672 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 3: The first and everything. 673 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 5: Gas, me gas me and, mannerisms Everything i'm, like and 674 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 5: then understanding of how much he watched him growing, up 675 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 5: but to be able to see to see, it put 676 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 5: it in practice and then go do. It he would 677 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 5: call me and, Say, hi do we need some work 678 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 5: in the. Morning, okay we get that six thirty and 679 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 5: he working on four spots that he's gonna get thirty 680 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 5: from that. Night and he ain't taking no shots the, 681 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 5: box box elbow. Wing feel me And i'm talking about, 682 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 5: precision And i'm pissed because it's thirty five forty minutes 683 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 5: or nothing but d for. Me you, know you know 684 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 5: What i'm, saying And i'm, like, Man i'm knowing. Him 685 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 5: he won a different look every single. Time, yea, yeah 686 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 5: And i'm gonna give him that just from a competitive. 687 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 5: End and LIKE i, said like you talk about how 688 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 5: much of a blessing it was to play with, him 689 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 5: play with, Him, JAY i got AN mj almost every day, 690 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 5: practice you, Know AND i loved it because for me 691 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 5: it was like WHEN i know he's gonna, Post i'm 692 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 5: just front, y'all better help. 693 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 4: Me you feel? 694 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 5: Me and then when he, Shoot i'm, Gone and now 695 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 5: he got to try to cross match to get back 696 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 5: And i'm shooting this, thing you, know to have to 697 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 5: play with, him and then to Watch kobe and to 698 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 5: See kobe say all, right, Man i'm gonna do these 699 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 5: two footworks from here And i'm gonna get. Fourteen i'm 700 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 5: gonna do these over, here And i'm gonna get at 701 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 5: least twenty into the line for four. 702 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 4: More and we go back and it beat them, spots. 703 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 5: Beat them spots because he didn't looked and, Said, okay 704 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 5: this team got this type of d they gonna throw at, 705 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 5: me this team got this big down, here SO i 706 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 5: ain't gonna be going down the town. 707 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 4: And he too small with. 708 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 6: Me did you go to keep your? Training did you 709 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 6: go with us To? Spain, no you weren't, There so 710 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 6: we was on the flight To. SPAIN i told this story, 711 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 6: before BUT i just want to add on to what 712 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 6: you're thinking when you talk about the way he looks at. 713 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 6: Defense so this is when everybody with sleeves on the 714 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 6: big huge plane with the families there and. Everything he 715 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 6: has his headphones on AND i think he's over there, 716 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 6: wrapping So i'm gonna go talk shit to. HIM i 717 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 6: get up and there's like thirty different courts and he's 718 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 6: drawing where the defense is gonna. Be he's, LIKE i 719 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 6: don't look at the guy guard. ME i don't look 720 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 6: at the. HELP i look at the third. Guy this 721 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 6: is where you guys are going to be open. At 722 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 6: so he had some ship where L o is gonna 723 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 6: be open Me Steve Blake fish run like this nigga. 724 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: Is sick because it's gonna take three times sick. 725 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 6: Go but then you talk about his kill spots on 726 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 6: top of, that AND i know how the defensive plays 727 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 6: like when he's, like can be that's where you're gonna be. 728 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 6: Open this, One i'm not even worried about this guy 729 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 6: looking at And i'm just, like, oh this. 730 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: Text. 731 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 4: WINNER i was too BEFORE i got on the. 732 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: Team it's. 733 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 5: Crazy and that's what WHEN i got with The, lakers 734 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 5: text would tell. Me, MAN i would have to Tell 735 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 5: kobe to get out of my room because we're watching. 736 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 5: Film And kobe was like the first time he watched 737 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 5: film with, texts he thought he was just gonna watch film. 738 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,959 Speaker 5: Him he's, like, no, man we watched the whole game Jump, 739 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 5: ball all the way to the, end and he said 740 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 5: how much that helped him make the game slow? 741 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: Down you know What i'm. 742 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 4: Saying and then you know, too, man when you got green. 743 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 5: Green, green green, light lime, green, Different, man come, On 744 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 5: man gave me, that you, Know and that's the probably 745 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 5: like when We're Doug. 746 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 4: Collins Doug collins was like. 747 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 5: This people was, like, MAN mj shoot a. Lot, NO 748 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 5: mj just had to make one. Shot anybody you make one, 749 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 5: Shot doug coming back to the. 750 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 4: Coming back to the same play, twice so you got 751 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 4: two times to score. 752 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 5: Again SO mj would get on them, runs but you 753 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 5: could get on them runs. Too just you got to 754 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 5: make at least. 755 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 4: Two to three in a row and just keep it moving. 756 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 4: Man but now not the way the game is. 757 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 5: Played for, Me i'm so GLAD i played WHEN i 758 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,919 Speaker 5: played man because to, me it was it was more, 759 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 5: cohesive it was more i'm gonna, say formalized basketball from 760 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 5: the standpoint that it was a position game to where 761 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 5: now it seems, like you, know it's positionless that if 762 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 5: you can, handle regardless to your, size you're gonna. Handle you, 763 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 5: know you look At yokige And, luca. 764 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 3: You, know regardless of your. 765 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: Size. Shoot, yeah, yeah let's. 766 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 6: Back up a little. Bit drafted to The San Diego. Clippers, 767 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 6: yes the owner that ended up losing his job during 768 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 6: my run. Here knowing what you're about what you, study 769 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 6: was there any did you know anything about him before 770 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 6: you got to The? 771 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: Clippers not at. 772 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 5: All and the crazy part, was you, know for me 773 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 5: coming in as you, know black, studies you, KNOW i, 774 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 5: WAS i was, serious serious as far as my commitment 775 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 5: and still serious about, it BUT i was you know 776 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 5: how you can be too serious. 777 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 4: And not not enjoy. 778 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 5: Life so it was one of those things WHERE i 779 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 5: made sure THAT i was on my p's and q's 780 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 5: where the game was, concerned AND i was just, young 781 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 5: And i'm studying and, watching BUT i watched you know 782 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 5: where we would come in with the clippers and not 783 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 5: have a check. 784 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 4: Signed you know What i'm. 785 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 5: Saying and it's A friday. Afternoon you know What i'm. 786 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 5: Saying you, know you, know and that type of. Stuff 787 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 5: but also at that time When Bill walton would always 788 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 5: let me, know, yeah, man. 789 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 4: The owner is a. Slumlord you know What i'm. Saying 790 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 4: that's coming From. 791 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 1: Bill bill was. 792 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 4: Superman bill was solid. 793 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 5: Man and that's you know certain. People you, KNOW i 794 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 5: look at my, life, man there's certain people That i've 795 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 5: been blessed to have looked. At WHEN i was a shorty. 796 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,439 Speaker 5: MAN i Remember bill when he scored his last game 797 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 5: IN ucla one for twenty two man and ran off the. 798 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 4: Court you know What i'm. 799 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 5: Saying when he fired out the, game he was gone 800 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 5: running off AND i was like that white boy, cool 801 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 5: you know What i'm. Saying And, Bill, bill and you 802 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 5: know all type of People i've been able to meet 803 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 5: in my, life you, know whether it Was Jesse, jackson 804 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 5: whether It's mandela you. Know so WHEN i, did y'all notice, 805 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 5: this y'all might have seen, this did y'all y'all watch 806 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,439 Speaker 5: The Super, bowl, Right did y'all see THE nfl players 807 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 5: commercial whether there's talking ABOUT i Am? 808 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 4: Somebody did you see? That anybody see? 809 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 3: That? 810 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 5: Okay that was the mantra THAT i had WHEN i 811 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 5: was eight years old At Operation Bread basket In chicago 812 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,720 Speaker 5: By Reverend Jesse Jackson. 813 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 4: Jr, really AND i, said they didn't even get his 814 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 4: brother no credit on. 815 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: THAT i remember that that was his whole. THING i 816 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: am somebody and. 817 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 5: It started and it started WITH i am, black BUT 818 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 5: i am, somebody all. 819 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 4: Right so WHEN i seen, THAT i was, like, oh, 820 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 4: man come, on but it's. 821 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: Cool, yeah it's. 822 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 4: Cool but where we just like right now one of 823 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 4: the things that we have to do is. Players And 824 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 4: i'm glad this came. Up Spencer. Haywood. 825 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 5: Yep we have got to make sure that we start 826 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 5: calling this To Spencer haywood rule and that it was 827 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 5: because Of spencer that people could come in early. 828 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: Out of high, school no, question you. 829 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 5: Know and that's the, part and you, know just things 830 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 5: like that from a historical, level, Man and That spencer 831 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 5: is one of the other brothers THAT i had a. 832 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 4: Chance you, know now we're, cool and he was one 833 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 4: of the brothers like Man Spencer. 834 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 5: Wood you know What i'm, Saying, kareem you, Know, Doc 835 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 5: and to get a, chance like you, say WHEN i 836 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 5: came in the, league WHEN i played against The lakers 837 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 5: the first it was a trip getting to you, know 838 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 5: getting to get a greens To, kareem you know What i'm, 839 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 5: saying and to be able to, Say, man you, here 840 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 5: but you. 841 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,720 Speaker 4: Can't be enamored we're being. Here it's putting in. Work 842 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 4: it's putting in. 843 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 5: Work but also knowing, That and that's one of the things, 844 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,439 Speaker 5: too is WHEN i look at how right, now to some, 845 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 5: DEGREE i look back and, say, man IF i was 846 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 5: a one, dimensional just a basketball player and not thinking 847 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 5: about the, Liberation i'm glad You it'll been some numbers 848 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 5: put up y'all on the. Reil AND i ain't saying 849 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 5: that to be. Facetious i'm, saying you, know, summertime, summertime 850 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 5: summertime Run i'm getting thirty fives and forties in the, 851 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 5: city SO i know. That But i'm looking at HOW 852 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 5: i was taught to play the, game all. Right Steve 853 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 5: fisher was my high school coach that coached the five. 854 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 5: Five SO i had three and a half hours every 855 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 5: day of drill. 856 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 4: Work you feel me in. 857 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 5: Discipline, man in the early part of the, GAME i 858 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 5: come down in high school AND i drop a dame 859 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 5: behind my back and before he finished the layft the 860 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,359 Speaker 5: horn was boring for me to come out the. Game, 861 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 5: Okay now fourth, quarter fourth, quarter same, game come, down 862 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 5: drop the same, Time no, problem because it's in the 863 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 5: heat of the. 864 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 4: Battle make the. Play don't need that. Early just make a. 865 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 5: Play and that taught, Me, OKAY i can make these, 866 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 5: plays but be cognizant because you're gonna come out of the. 867 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 5: Game and why come out the. Game you on the 868 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 5: road where you got almost thirty eight right, now don't 869 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,879 Speaker 5: do nothing, stupid don't get your, forties you know What i'm. 870 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 5: Saying so it's a different it's a different. Mindset and for, 871 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 5: ME i, was LIKE i, SAID i was blessed to 872 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 5: be able to have great teaching all the way, through 873 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 5: go From Steve fisher to Text, winner from Text winner 874 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 5: To Paul silas To Jimmy lineham To Don, Nelson Cotton, 875 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 5: Fitzsimmons Doug, Collins Phil. Jackson you, know SO i Had 876 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 5: i've had great teaching all the way, through and probably 877 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 5: one of the greatest TEACHERS i had along that way 878 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 5: was Down nelson and you Know, Nellie. Nellie nelly was. 879 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,800 Speaker 5: Cool AND i think one of the cold parts About 880 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 5: nelly that that when he got The Golden, state he 881 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 5: changed you feel? Me he became mellow Man. Milwaukee he 882 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 5: was a, psycho was? 883 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 6: HE i want to hear about this side because he 884 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 6: was so cool with. 885 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 2: Us super mellow with, us letting the smoke tree in his, 886 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 2: creb his apartment all. 887 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 4: That, no no dig. THIS i go To. Hawaii who was? That? 888 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 1: YES i love, you get ready to love. 889 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 4: YOU i go To. 890 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 5: MAUI i go To mawi AND i visit field all 891 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 5: these trees and. Shit right, Now i'm playing with the 892 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 5: Bucks i'm. 893 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 4: Burning he calls me in the office one, Day, Yeah, 894 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 4: craig we need to. Talk what's up smoking? 895 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: Weed? 896 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 3: Right i'm Like. 897 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 4: He's, like, well give it a couple of, days take 898 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 4: it off a couple of, days, Right And i'm, like 899 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 4: y'all get out. 900 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,399 Speaker 5: There it's, like, man you was messing with me about 901 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 5: smoking weed WHEN i was playing what you tripping? 902 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: On? 903 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 4: Right but, Anyway nelly. 904 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: Was like, This nelly cush. 905 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 4: EXACTLY i was like, What but, anyway when we was In, Milwaukee, 906 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 4: man we would have thirty days of tour days old. 907 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 1: School, YEAH i need to trade, me you feel? 908 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,399 Speaker 5: Me thirty days of two days And i'm talking About 909 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 5: nelly was like, THIS i got. 910 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: Traded, YEAH i ain't able to do it. 911 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 5: Me Terry cummings And Ricky, pierce we get traded To, 912 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 5: milwaukee all. Right they get there for the first day 913 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 5: of the first practice that. 914 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 4: MORNING i come in that. 915 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,439 Speaker 5: Afternoon So i'm going up to the elevator to Meet 916 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 5: nelly and they're coming down after the first practice In 917 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 5: Ricky pierce country. 918 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:41,479 Speaker 4: Man hart that more, crazy, Man it can't be that bad. 919 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 4: Man so get up there With nelly's. 920 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,760 Speaker 5: Like, YEAH i could have got you in the trade 921 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,320 Speaker 5: a year, ago but NOW i think you're gonna have 922 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 5: a longevity in the. 923 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 4: Game you got a nice physeq and. 924 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 5: Everything he's, like but the one thing IS i want 925 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 5: to know if you can handle a motherfucker cussing you. 926 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 4: Out AND i started. 927 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 5: Laughing, man go to practice that, night come, in we 928 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 5: take our three. Laps we go right to the, mirror 929 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 5: drill lead. 930 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 4: Them that's. Me get up, front so, no make them. 931 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 4: Work how does that SHIT. 932 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,439 Speaker 5: I slide for two, minutes leading them, right and now 933 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,760 Speaker 5: they take two laps before the next. One i'm getting 934 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 5: ready to take my. 935 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 4: Lap, no, no, no keep. Sliding i'm, like and you, 936 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 4: know pros when we take, laps were getting the rest. 937 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 5: Right So i'm looking at the. Brothers come, back give 938 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 5: them three, minutes So i'm ready to. Quit i'm ready 939 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,280 Speaker 5: to get. Traded at this, POINT i Told terry comes 940 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,399 Speaker 5: out LIKE tc, Man i'm ready to get. 941 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 4: Traded. Man like, MAN i slow. Down now we go 942 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 4: through that whole thirty. 943 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 5: Days, man as soon as that camp is, over he 944 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 5: became the coolest coach, ever a player's. Coach but you 945 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 5: know what he told me after it all these like 946 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 5: the way you get control of your team is make 947 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 5: them all hate. You and once you get them all, 948 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 5: hating and now what's? Him he put everybody through, that 949 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 5: and it was, like, man we hate this cat. Man 950 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 5: nelly be sitting there and you Know, milwaukee how cold it. 951 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 5: Is we used to practice in this place Called Cardinals Scritch, 952 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 5: college old. 953 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 4: School no he. 954 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 5: Dead, winner, Right nelly sitting in there in a parker 955 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 5: and smoking cigarettes while we running, Laps and it's, like, 956 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 5: man And nelly was always he was cool to the 957 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 5: point where you could joke with. 958 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 4: Him but he was serious about. 959 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 5: Winning he was serious about unless we played The, celtics 960 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:35,919 Speaker 5: and then it was like he ain't gonna. 961 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,919 Speaker 1: Coach he ain't gonna. 962 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 3: Coach, no, man why. 963 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,359 Speaker 1: Not read our? 964 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:41,880 Speaker 4: Back he all read his. 965 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 5: Career so we go In Boston, garden we waiting For 966 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 5: nelly to give us one of these bombed inventions on 967 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 5: the sideline and time. 968 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 4: Out he's. Silent, man it's The Houston Conference. Finals, Man no 969 00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 4: no rep no. Rip, okay all, right, okay talk through the. 970 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 6: Motion that's like the culture and the water boy man 971 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 6: when he was intimidated by the other exactly basically. 972 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 1: What he did after we Beat dallas shut it. 973 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 5: DOWN i think you know one of the, things you, 974 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 5: know When steve was in the high, School, steve that 975 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 5: which happened would not not just And chris at. All 976 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 5: that would have never happened with my high school, team 977 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 5: never Because fish made sure you was on point and 978 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 5: and locked. 979 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 4: In but it, happened you. 980 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 5: Know but he was always understanding of the impact that 981 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 5: players could, have especially going into. College he understood that 982 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 5: he couldn't be as he was when he was around 983 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,399 Speaker 5: us in high, school you, know so he became more more, 984 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 5: calm and he came into great. Situations, man you know 985 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 5: What i'm. Saying he came into you know when that 986 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 5: when that five to five thing went, down that was perfect. 987 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 5: Timing he had recruited them all and you were second in, 988 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 5: charge and then the coach steps. 989 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 4: Down so you in good. 990 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 3: Shape From milwaukee To, chicago. 991 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 4: From milwaukee To, Phoenix, phoenix, YEAH i. 992 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 5: WAS i went FROM i got traded To phoenix the 993 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 5: same day With Kevin, Johnson Mark, West Tyrone. CORBIN i 994 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 5: came From milwaukee For Jay. Humphreys jay went to The. 995 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 5: BUCKS i came to The. Sins i'm leading the league 996 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 5: in three point percentage at the TIME i get. Traded 997 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 5: WHEN i get traded in as soon AS i get 998 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,879 Speaker 5: off the, Plane i'm on IR i don't know how 999 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 5: did this? Happen but, okay. Cool So i'm, like, Well 1000 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 5: i'm gonna go home with some hardwork Because i'm gonna 1001 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 5: be the three point. Title and you know that we 1002 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 5: only had maybe fifteen games left after that because we 1003 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 5: weren't go into the. Playoffs and THEN i went to 1004 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 5: training camp the following season AND i got traded probably 1005 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 5: like mid Almost. December and what's cool about that situation 1006 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 5: is That Jerry, COLANGELO i went to high school. 1007 00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 1: With all my. 1008 00:47:58,480 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 4: Family he's From. 1009 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,359 Speaker 5: Chicago the gym At Bloom High school was named After Jerry. 1010 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 5: Colangelo so when he called me in to trade me To, 1011 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 5: chicago he's, like, Yeah Craig cotton would love to have. 1012 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 5: You you, Know cotten Fits simmons would love to keep 1013 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 5: you as an insurance. Policy BUT i got a trade 1014 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 5: you might. 1015 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 1: LIKE i was, like what's. Up he's Like. 1016 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 4: CHICAGO i was, like oh. 1017 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 5: Man he's, like, yeah make sure you tell your family 1018 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 5: HOW i was, like cooler, man it. Was it was 1019 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,319 Speaker 5: cool from that point on to be able to come 1020 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 5: home and be the first homeborn, champion you know What i'm, 1021 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,359 Speaker 5: Saying and to be able to look at it from 1022 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 5: a different perspective that HAD i came To chicago as a, 1023 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,439 Speaker 5: ROOKIE i wouldn't have been. Ready but to be able 1024 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 5: to come in as a six year veteran with playoff, 1025 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 5: experience probably more playoff. Experience the other person that might 1026 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 5: have had more than me Was Bill. Cartwright so you 1027 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 5: come in with a level of you, know seniority and 1028 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 5: in a mindset that you ready to. 1029 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 4: Deliver. MAN i remember we played we played The bulls 1030 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 4: WHEN i was In, milwaukee and you know how you're 1031 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 4: going through layup line and you cross, paths AND i 1032 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 4: remember crossing paths with M jay and we drapped it 1033 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 4: up AND i told, HIM i, said, man if we 1034 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 4: ever get, together we're gonna win. 1035 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 5: Championships and we kept going and we came. Back AND 1036 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 5: i tell, people when you look at the, numbers he's twenty, 1037 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 5: Three i'm, Fourteen my one and my four encompasses two 1038 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 5: and three together the equal. 1039 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,319 Speaker 4: Ten so ain't no way we could. 1040 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,879 Speaker 1: Lose in a way we could. 1041 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:24,360 Speaker 3: Lose so your first year In, chicago you guys lose To. 1042 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 4: Detroit, yes and GET i asked with. 1043 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 3: What'd you guys learn from? 1044 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:34,439 Speaker 5: That that the biggest thing was their physicality versus our. 1045 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 5: Athleticism so when they were KNOCKING mj, down they're, Taped 1046 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,399 Speaker 5: scottie out a little, bit, okay we would react to them. 1047 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:52,319 Speaker 5: Taps the following, year it was make sure that when 1048 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 5: anybody got, tapped two or three of us go over 1049 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 5: there quick and get them right to the line and 1050 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 5: get them up and let's go that it ain't gonna 1051 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 5: beat us lingering over this hit or looking. Back, no, no, 1052 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 5: no get your ass, up get you the, line make 1053 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 5: your free. 1054 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 4: Throws they gonna file you because they can't stop. 1055 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 1: You you know What i'm. 1056 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,919 Speaker 5: Saying because the athleticism that we had in our front, 1057 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 5: line man was stupid at that at that period of. 1058 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 5: Time and being able to play under the system that 1059 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 5: we played under With, doug it was tough because everything 1060 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,879 Speaker 5: was run so much THROUGH mj that it was hard 1061 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 5: for the younger Cats, pete you, KNOW Bj stacy for 1062 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 5: them to be able to see how this is. 1063 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 4: Played you. 1064 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 5: Know so once it became a thing where everybody was 1065 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,359 Speaker 5: gonna get, touches it became a different, game. Man and 1066 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 5: and once again it was, uh you, KNOW mj was 1067 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,359 Speaker 5: hot with the system when it was walked. 1068 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,359 Speaker 4: On he didn't want to he didn't want to want 1069 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 4: to run, triangle you. 1070 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 5: Know but it was like and and that's another, thing you, 1071 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 5: know watching The Last dance and the the aura of 1072 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,720 Speaker 5: the mystique Of mike in the ora of The mystique 1073 00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 5: OF mj or twenty three or whatever you want to call, 1074 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,840 Speaker 5: it and the reality of what the locker room was 1075 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 5: like that that wasn't a he wasn't a senior in the. 1076 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 5: Class you know What i'm. Saying that Was bill Cut. 1077 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 5: Right so it wasn't ever where he was gonna Speak 1078 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,800 Speaker 5: bill or he was gonna Speak, hodge because it was a. 1079 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 5: Seniority you came in the. League we was in the 1080 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,320 Speaker 5: league when you came, Here so it's not gonna be different. 1081 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 5: Level and so people from the outside would see it one, 1082 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 5: way but we on the inside understood it to be 1083 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 5: what it was and that you, know when things would go, 1084 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 5: awry it was gonna be your. Teach and that's what 1085 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 5: we Call bill cut, Right, yo, teach what's what's? Up 1086 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 5: and you're gonna, Drop you're gonna let, it let it be. 1087 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,919 Speaker 5: Known and it wasn't nobody gonna challenge. That and that's 1088 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:39,240 Speaker 5: the part WHERE i, think you, know the the whole 1089 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:43,319 Speaker 5: media side of things can cause like cosset. Friction you, 1090 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,240 Speaker 5: know WHEN i look at the opportunity That Derrick rose 1091 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 5: And Jimmy butler had together In, chicago but the media 1092 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 5: wanted to make it which Team whose team is? It 1093 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 5: as opposed to see these young brothers realize what we 1094 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 5: could do as a camaraderie and make this thing go 1095 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,360 Speaker 5: for a. Championship and that's the part that you know 1096 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 5: understanding that different, Systems and that's WHAT i tell people 1097 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 5: all the. 1098 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 4: TIME i don't care what you're. 1099 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 5: In systems win, championships and every system that has a 1100 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 5: defensive component on, it defense wins. Championship so we hang 1101 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 5: our had on. Defense and the way that we do 1102 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 5: that is going to give us an opportunity to bust 1103 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 5: out of this thing and play offense the way we 1104 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 5: want to play, it which is. Run people think that 1105 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 5: triangle slow. 1106 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:25,879 Speaker 4: Down you think about. 1107 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,839 Speaker 5: It we wanted to run most of the time when 1108 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,280 Speaker 5: we're trying to do the, tryang we're trying to run to. Numbers, 1109 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,239 Speaker 5: now if the numbers ain't, there let's flow into our 1110 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 5: system and get things popping, off you, know without the 1111 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 5: ball getting. 1112 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 4: Stuck in one, place you, know pipping. 1113 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,319 Speaker 6: Incredible, yeah you were telling. Me this is one THING 1114 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,279 Speaker 6: i asked. YOU i asked you two. Things we'll get into. 1115 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,920 Speaker 6: IT i was, like how good was he and should 1116 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 6: he feel the way he should feel Towards mike at this, 1117 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 6: POINT i think that was, Something but how good was? 1118 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 5: HE i think he was better THAN mj just from 1119 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 5: a natural six seven with the same. Components but not 1120 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 5: only is your right your left is that, big you 1121 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 5: know What i'm, Saying and you finishing. 1122 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 4: Were both equally like. 1123 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 5: That the difference was was that the level of confidence 1124 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 5: coming out of and so. 1125 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 4: Much when we look at, it think about. 1126 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,480 Speaker 5: It if you think about how many guys you played, 1127 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 5: with so much was given to them that they lent 1128 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 5: to their, confidence you know What i'm. 1129 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 4: Saying so IF i know THAT i got all of. 1130 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 5: These people behind me and all these people supporting, me 1131 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 5: Then i'm gonna go out And i'm gonna pay a 1132 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,880 Speaker 5: different way as opposed TO i got to prove to 1133 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 5: these people That i'm. Capable scotty come in having to 1134 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 5: prove itself From Central, arkansas as opposed to knowing that, 1135 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 5: Dude i'm six, SEVEN i got, HANDLES i gotta, JUMP 1136 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 5: i can. SHOOT i still got to prove. Myself where 1137 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 5: m was already proven to a, degree it was just 1138 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 5: a matter of how good. 1139 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:46,319 Speaker 4: He was gonna. 1140 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 5: Become and that you, know WHEN i look at pichure, 1141 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 5: Development scotty is silly. Man scotty And horse they used 1142 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,439 Speaker 5: to keep things so light hearted because they were silly young. 1143 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 5: Folks but they played hard and they got every, day 1144 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 5: AND i think that's the part That Pip pip became 1145 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 5: better with every. Touch AND i think you, know when 1146 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 5: they named in the top, fifty it took his confidence 1147 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 5: to a different. Level BUT i think he felt THAT 1148 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 5: mj could have done more from a business side of helping, 1149 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 5: him you know What i'm, saying from the side of 1150 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 5: saying all, right you think how many professional athletes today 1151 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:28,800 Speaker 5: and of yesteryear who gave a piece of themselves contractually 1152 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,359 Speaker 5: in order to keep my boy, here you know What i'm, 1153 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 5: Saying and THAT i Think scotty wanted a little bit 1154 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 5: of that to. Happen and you, know sometimes you, know 1155 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 5: the friendship and like THEY i soaught a piece the 1156 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 5: other day where they was Asking scotty if him And 1157 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 5: michael ever had a dinner. 1158 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,319 Speaker 4: Together you're, like, No AND i could see THAT i 1159 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:48,320 Speaker 4: can see. 1160 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:52,399 Speaker 5: Them never sitting down. There you, know yes it. Is 1161 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 5: but then when he said, NO i was, LIKE i, 1162 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 5: thought y'all had you know What i'm, saying at some, 1163 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 5: point you, know if nothing else but The olympics Or Dream, 1164 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,279 Speaker 5: team and sometime y'all had to sit. Down BUT i 1165 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 5: could believe it after talking about, it him talking about 1166 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,799 Speaker 5: it the way he. DID i could believe, it you, 1167 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 5: know but it's not you, know it's not taking anything 1168 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,040 Speaker 5: away from what we did on a basketball. 1169 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 4: Level what are we doing as? Men you know What i'm? 1170 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,359 Speaker 4: Saying what is where are we at right? 1171 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 5: Now? 1172 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 4: Man LIKE i, said we're too old for that. 1173 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 1: Dumb, shit, right you spoke. 1174 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 3: Old On where DO i want to go? There AND 1175 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 3: i don't want to go? 1176 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:37,879 Speaker 6: There talk to me about the one time you guys 1177 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,319 Speaker 6: are finishing up the season Against, miami right and you're 1178 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 6: going to see him in the first round of the playoffs. 1179 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,400 Speaker 5: Exactly we're playing In miami and we're rolling at this. 1180 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,680 Speaker 5: Time the system is system is really playing for. Itself 1181 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 5: and that's the cool part about the. System once you 1182 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 5: get into, it you just come to. Games, man you 1183 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 5: done did it so much and its. Flows so we're 1184 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 5: going to shoot around and we're leaving shoot around and 1185 00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,919 Speaker 5: we're on the bus and THEM ja, like, man drop 1186 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,360 Speaker 5: me off here and drop him off at the bar and, 1187 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,319 Speaker 5: say you're gonna have some, beers, right, huh say you're 1188 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,719 Speaker 5: gonna have some. Beers, okay gonna have some. Beers so 1189 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 5: he tells us to pick him up on the way 1190 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 5: back to the. 1191 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 4: Game we pick him. 1192 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 5: Up he still got his sweats, on you know him 1193 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 5: j come the game suited and boot it all, right 1194 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 5: still got his sweats. 1195 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,959 Speaker 4: On pick us. Up he get on the. Bath, yeah, 1196 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 4: Man i'm feeling. Good, Right bubbly gets. 1197 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:28,319 Speaker 5: Me at a beer on, him got thirty at half all, 1198 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 5: right going through warm. 1199 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 4: Ups, Man i'm seeing three. Rams i'm gonna shoot that 1200 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 4: to one in the. 1201 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:39,359 Speaker 5: Middle, okay that's, hard, okay and then told us if 1202 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,080 Speaker 5: y'all can't beat, him we don't need to win a. 1203 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 5: Championship y'all could beat him without. Me but came in 1204 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,759 Speaker 5: there and he got it done hurly and went set. 1205 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:51,279 Speaker 4: Down, okay rush, fresh, win set. 1206 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 1: Down that's. 1207 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:57,840 Speaker 6: Why that's the kind of, Shit not that it bothers 1208 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,839 Speaker 6: me What dallas's management is trying to Portray luca ass 1209 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,319 Speaker 6: like we aren't grown man and can handle what we 1210 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 6: need to do to their man because they think he 1211 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,719 Speaker 6: smokes hookah and drinks be it like if you knew 1212 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 6: what motherfucker was really doing and still going out there 1213 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 6: and being professionals Like and. 1214 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,400 Speaker 5: That's the crazy part is they know. It ain't you, 1215 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 5: know they can they can play it all, right they. 1216 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 5: Don't you don't you paying the amount of money you're 1217 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,960 Speaker 5: investing to know what these cats are. Doing so you, 1218 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 5: know as well as anybody's just a matter that now 1219 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 5: you want to you want to. 1220 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 4: Use that as a means of the reason you got 1221 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:31,080 Speaker 4: rid of them or. 1222 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 5: Whatever but it's sickning, man it's you, know it's the 1223 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 5: same Old you control the, media so you can control 1224 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 5: the narrative. 1225 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 6: Degree let's talk about you talking To magic And michael 1226 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:46,520 Speaker 6: about sitting out. 1227 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 5: Right that was our nineteen ninety one championship and you 1228 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 5: know The Rodney king stuff that went, down and we 1229 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 5: man we had and it was TWENTY i think twenty. 1230 00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 4: One or the twenty four athletes is Us. 1231 00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:04,080 Speaker 5: And you KNOW i harkened back TO i brought to 1232 00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 5: them that in nineteen sixty. Three that's how we got 1233 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 5: a union is by us boycotting at. 1234 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 6: The playoffs on Keep your thought was this them together, separately. Separately, 1235 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 6: Okay so you talk To mike and then you talk 1236 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 6: To man. 1237 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 4: Exactly AND MJ i spoke to him before. 1238 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:23,080 Speaker 5: PRACTICE i was, like, dude if we boycott this first, 1239 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 5: game how much action they're gonna have to do for, 1240 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 5: us whether it be in the front, office whether it 1241 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 5: be in, ownership they're gonna have to make some. Concessions 1242 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 5: and me knowing studying The All star weekend and how 1243 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,200 Speaker 5: the union came. About When Jerry west and Elgend bale 1244 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 5: and the brother say we ain't gonna, play concessions were made. 1245 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 4: So that game could go. On same thing would. 1246 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 5: Happen y'all, know if twenty minutes on the, clock The 1247 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,040 Speaker 5: lakers and don't come out in the, Court bulls don't 1248 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 5: come out in the. Court the media is, saying, oh they're, 1249 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 5: playing they're playing mental. 1250 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:06,560 Speaker 4: Games eighteen on the. Clock somebody from the organization is 1251 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,400 Speaker 4: coming down at what's going. On twenty one or twenty 1252 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 4: four four athletes can, say we're not gonna plan until 1253 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 4: we get some. 1254 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 5: Concessions concession's gonna be made right. Away magic said it 1255 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 5: was too. SEVERE mj said he wasn't doing. 1256 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:20,920 Speaker 1: It. 1257 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 5: Okay my thing was. Okay HAD i had the mindset, 1258 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 5: NOW i wouldn't have. 1259 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,959 Speaker 4: Played you feel, Me BUT i wasn't. 1260 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:35,920 Speaker 5: Thinking once, again me thinking and the collective not me, 1261 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,800 Speaker 5: thinking that we're gonna step out. 1262 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 1: There. 1263 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:39,800 Speaker 4: Now we went to The White, house it was a different. 1264 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,520 Speaker 4: Thing we hear and this is WHAT i gotta. Do 1265 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:42,120 Speaker 4: you know What i'm. 1266 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,919 Speaker 5: SAYING i gotta be on because ain't nobody else gonna bring, 1267 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 5: This SO i gotta make SURE i get delivered as 1268 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 5: message that needs to be delivered and should have been 1269 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 5: delivered a long time. AGO i gotta make SURE i 1270 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 5: give it to you so you can say you got. 1271 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 5: It and he put on a historical. 1272 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 3: Record talk to us about what that message was and what. 1273 00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,360 Speaker 5: You did well once we won a. Championship this is 1274 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,000 Speaker 5: the ninety one ship first. Championship, okay well we lost In, 1275 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 5: Detroit douglas, coach we crowned like, babies, Man And i'm, 1276 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 5: like you know. What it hit me sometime during the 1277 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,920 Speaker 5: season that we need ancestral help on this, thing that 1278 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,959 Speaker 5: we ain't got enough heart right. Now SO i, Said 1279 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 5: i'm gonna Wear. 1280 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 4: DASHIKI'S i Wore dashiki for every playoff, game. 1281 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:28,200 Speaker 1: You know What i'm. 1282 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 5: Saying and for, me it was a thing that this 1283 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 5: is our cultural. Heritage and when we went to The 1284 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,439 Speaker 5: White house after, WINNING i warned them the whole time 1285 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 5: to the, point you, know we are people in the front, 1286 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 5: office how did you win A dashika? 1287 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:40,440 Speaker 4: Tonight? 1288 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 5: MAN i got enough of these for the whole. Year Bro, 1289 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 5: Okay so let's. Roll we gonna we got, this so 1290 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:47,440 Speaker 5: everybody looking for. 1291 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:47,520 Speaker 2: It. 1292 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,680 Speaker 5: Now when we go to The White house AND i 1293 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 5: Wear dashiki to The White house and the national media is, 1294 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:57,200 Speaker 5: there it's a different, project all. Right, likewise WHEN i get, 1295 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,640 Speaker 5: THERE i wrote a letter the night, before and the 1296 01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 5: crazy part with, That i'm playing ping pong with my 1297 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 5: boy and it hits, me, man you better write that. 1298 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,960 Speaker 5: Letter And i'm, thinking when it hit, ME i was 1299 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,920 Speaker 5: HARKing back to WHEN i was in sixth, grade, man 1300 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,640 Speaker 5: AND i was writing a letter to the. Mayor you hear, 1301 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 5: Me WHEN i was in, College i'm writing a letter 1302 01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,800 Speaker 5: to the congress, people And i'm, like you're. 1303 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 4: Going to the most important time in your, life sit 1304 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:20,840 Speaker 4: you but down and. 1305 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:26,400 Speaker 5: Write and the thing that for, me it was about 1306 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,840 Speaker 5: us getting a chance to go with Special. 1307 01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:42,440 Speaker 4: Yes, lord you got. IT i told. HIM i told. 1308 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:47,200 Speaker 4: HIM i told, him, yeah. Yeah, violation, violation. 1309 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah shot clock. Violation. 1310 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 6: Man, see you're, right you're writing this. Letter you headed 1311 01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,240 Speaker 6: to The White house the next. Day what's this letter consist. 1312 01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 5: Of it's mainly asking the president to consider the issue 1313 01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 5: as the poor, people you, Know i'm getting a chance 1314 01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 5: to come to this great, edifice you, know and just 1315 01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,400 Speaker 5: to see the, power you, know and being a descendant 1316 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 5: of a former, SLAVE i would like you to consider 1317 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 5: the issues of poor people and people of color the 1318 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,400 Speaker 5: same way you consider foreign. Policy you feel me and 1319 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,520 Speaker 5: everybody took it as meaning, that, OH i. 1320 01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:22,000 Speaker 4: Wrote a letter a. Militant, LOOK i ain't never had no. 1321 01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:25,080 Speaker 4: WEAPONS i don't own no. GUNS i ain't never had no. 1322 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,000 Speaker 5: GUN i shot A bb gun WHEN i was in 1323 01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,360 Speaker 5: sixth grade AND i shot a bird in the eye 1324 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,080 Speaker 5: AND i looked at that AND i shot that bird 1325 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,880 Speaker 5: and eye that bird failed on my, feet AND i started, 1326 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 5: crying AND i took that gun apart and threw it 1327 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,640 Speaker 5: every PLACE i, could AND i, said that wouldn't happen. 1328 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 4: Again so for, me it ain't about being a. 1329 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,480 Speaker 5: Militant it's about being able to stand on the principles 1330 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,400 Speaker 5: THAT i was taught about and knowing that my hero 1331 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 5: Is Doctor king From, afar you, know and THEN i 1332 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 5: got to learn About. Malcolm BUT i vibe On Doctor 1333 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 5: king BECAUSE i don't like, violence. 1334 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,760 Speaker 4: You, know AND i feel like there's no reason for. 1335 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,120 Speaker 5: It the only reason for it is greed more than 1336 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:08,400 Speaker 5: anything that those who have the ability and power to 1337 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:13,400 Speaker 5: make weapons of. War it's about, greed it's not about. 1338 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,960 Speaker 5: People and we can we can talk all of this 1339 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 5: we want. To but the reality for me was knowing 1340 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 5: That i'm getting a chance to go to The White. 1341 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,360 Speaker 5: HOUSE i might not get a chance to come. 1342 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,560 Speaker 4: Here we, know you win one, championship you don't know 1343 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:25,640 Speaker 4: if you're gonna win, again. 1344 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,680 Speaker 5: And to get a chance to go to let the 1345 01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 5: president know, that you, know could you consider our? 1346 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 4: Issues and he was cool as a. Fan. 1347 01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 3: Man you handed him this. 1348 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:35,320 Speaker 4: Note, NO i couldn't hand it to. 1349 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,680 Speaker 5: Him WHEN i GOT i told Her Tim hallian moves 1350 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,280 Speaker 5: our press, PERSON i, SAID i wrote the president. Letter 1351 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 5: and then when he got, there he told him that 1352 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:44,960 Speaker 5: one of our players has a letter you want to 1353 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,840 Speaker 5: give to the, president but you can't hand him anything, 1354 01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,840 Speaker 5: direct you. Know SO i gave it to his press. 1355 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,280 Speaker 5: Secretary but it's part of the library down In. 1356 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:57,240 Speaker 1: Dallas so, man a lot of people don't. 1357 01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:04,240 Speaker 2: Know they wasn't offended by are worried about you putting 1358 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,480 Speaker 2: people together and going shoot. People they was used to 1359 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,720 Speaker 2: that you were shooting with your, mind and that's that's 1360 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:11,120 Speaker 2: what offended There that's what they was worried. 1361 01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,280 Speaker 5: About and you know the crazy part that you say, that, 1362 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 5: man is that When i'm, Playing i'm communicating with. People, 1363 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,400 Speaker 5: i'm LIKE i, Said i'm a talker AND i get 1364 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,240 Speaker 5: excited about. Info so IF i get some information, Today 1365 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:25,400 Speaker 5: i'm gonna try to share with. 1366 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:26,400 Speaker 4: Y'all you feel me in. 1367 01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 5: That and my, teammates The John paxton tell you trying 1368 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,160 Speaker 5: to be like, Man hodge wasn't being preachy or. Nothing 1369 01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,520 Speaker 5: he was just wanting to share his info with, us 1370 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,400 Speaker 5: and we was cool with him sharing it with. Us 1371 01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:39,760 Speaker 5: but when it comes to that information being being able 1372 01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,280 Speaker 5: to affect the bottom line or, something, right then it 1373 01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,600 Speaker 5: becomes a. Problem, right you know What i'm, Saying LIKE 1374 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 5: i tell y'all, Something remember when when the brothers were 1375 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:55,200 Speaker 5: we IN i can't breathe, church all, Right we don't 1376 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,720 Speaker 5: realize how much power we had right. 1377 01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,800 Speaker 1: Then we didn't me and you was in the. Field 1378 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:01,400 Speaker 1: we was in the, field. 1379 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 5: Yes sell you In, chicago and it was it was 1380 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:11,320 Speaker 5: wild to me to see how much how worried they 1381 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,800 Speaker 5: were when they saw when they saw brothers with shirts 1382 01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,760 Speaker 5: talking ABOUT i can't breathe with them shirts on in their. 1383 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:21,320 Speaker 5: Uniforms but have we said we're not taking these shirts 1384 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:25,800 Speaker 5: off to show these uniforms until changes are. 1385 01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 4: Made but the, bubble why did we? Go why did 1386 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:32,800 Speaker 4: we go to the? 1387 01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,640 Speaker 5: Bubble AND i told people, THIS i, said regardless of 1388 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,000 Speaker 5: what we want to look, at we have to realize 1389 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,600 Speaker 5: how important THE nba is to the bottom line of. 1390 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 4: Economics all, RIGHT. 1391 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 5: Covid didn't start until old boy From utah started talking 1392 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:51,560 Speaker 5: crazy with the. 1393 01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,760 Speaker 6: Mic THE nba shut the world down when it when, 1394 01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,600 Speaker 6: It when it went, down everything else followed and suit now. 1395 01:05:56,440 --> 01:06:00,000 Speaker 5: The crazy part, this this is a, funny funny part from. 1396 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,080 Speaker 4: Me was the funny part for me was when we 1397 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,720 Speaker 4: went into the. Bubble what did the bubble look like to? 1398 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,440 Speaker 4: You you know what the bubble look like to? Me 1399 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,400 Speaker 4: a video? Game it's a video. 1400 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,320 Speaker 5: Game SO i, said, okay let's look at it like this. 1401 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:19,080 Speaker 5: One if we can't get fans in the, stands we 1402 01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,600 Speaker 5: can get fans on our video. Games so we're gonna 1403 01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,720 Speaker 5: make this look it's much like a video, game and 1404 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,600 Speaker 5: we're gonna get as many people on white two k's 1405 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,520 Speaker 5: we can because we got to continue to make this bread. 1406 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 4: Out we can make this, bread y'all and it's. Cool it's. 1407 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:32,920 Speaker 5: Cool so like with, THIS i know a lot of 1408 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,320 Speaker 5: people that know me right now when y'all show, this 1409 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:36,880 Speaker 5: AND i don't know how much you're gonna, cut but 1410 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,680 Speaker 5: they gonna get worried about this, part this part right, 1411 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:44,560 Speaker 5: here because for, me they're gonna worry About hodges all. 1412 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,120 Speaker 5: RIGHT a lot of people worry About hodges because Of hodge. 1413 01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:48,520 Speaker 1: SPEAK i love. 1414 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,520 Speaker 4: IT i can't help. IT i can help it IF 1415 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:52,680 Speaker 4: i Get muzzle to help. 1416 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:53,480 Speaker 1: It you know What i'm. 1417 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:54,520 Speaker 4: Saying that shut it? 1418 01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:54,680 Speaker 3: Down. 1419 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:55,720 Speaker 4: Boom ain't nothing happening. 1420 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,560 Speaker 5: Then but other than, that if you're gonna sit and 1421 01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,040 Speaker 5: talk to, me we got to talk about the reality 1422 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,200 Speaker 5: of where we are and the reality of why we are. 1423 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 4: Here see every psyche right, now. 1424 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,880 Speaker 5: The thing that's affecting every single person on the planet. 1425 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:18,320 Speaker 4: Is Elon musk right, now just by going THROUGH US 1426 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:18,960 Speaker 4: A I D. 1427 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:31,880 Speaker 5: United states, Right international. Development that's critical of, us that's. 1428 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:37,800 Speaker 5: CRITICAL i love. THIS i love, that oh all, day all. 1429 01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:39,840 Speaker 5: Day we love, that and. 1430 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,640 Speaker 4: It would and we didn't have to worry about these. 1431 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,600 Speaker 4: Matters BUT i gotta worry about. 1432 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,800 Speaker 5: Them the REASON i gotta worry about him because ninety 1433 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,600 Speaker 5: nine point nine percent of my people are not studying. 1434 01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:54,280 Speaker 5: This they're not even conscious of what's getting ready to 1435 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:54,720 Speaker 5: come down the. 1436 01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:58,360 Speaker 4: Pipe. Okay and that's the part for, me is that. 1437 01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,440 Speaker 5: We who are making these billions of dollars and millions of, dollars, 1438 01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,360 Speaker 5: y'all we're getting ready to have a most vital. 1439 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,560 Speaker 4: Role we're gonna have. 1440 01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,560 Speaker 5: More so we gonna be able to put our money 1441 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,520 Speaker 5: where our mouths. Are, Now, okay it ain't gonna be 1442 01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,040 Speaker 5: no thing where somebody gonna be able to, say you 1443 01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:17,559 Speaker 5: know What i'm. 1444 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:17,960 Speaker 4: Getting back to the. 1445 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:23,760 Speaker 5: Community, Okay, okay we're gonna, see we gonna, see we 1446 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,880 Speaker 5: gonna see how much you're willing to give back when 1447 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:31,240 Speaker 5: this thing goes down on the level that nobody. 1448 01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,600 Speaker 4: Has ever seen. Before All. 1449 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,519 Speaker 5: Right the reason we ain't never seen it before is 1450 01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,320 Speaker 5: that we have never had the historical events that have 1451 01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:43,200 Speaker 5: happened In america happened In. America for, one have we 1452 01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,160 Speaker 5: ever been In america as black men and we set 1453 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:45,559 Speaker 5: home and got? 1454 01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:50,240 Speaker 4: Paid? No did it happen IN Covid did it? Happen 1455 01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:52,760 Speaker 4: did we set at home and get? Paid? Never in? 1456 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:53,160 Speaker 1: History? 1457 01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:59,880 Speaker 5: Right, okay we got we got Put look at this. 1458 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:07,000 Speaker 4: The only people that are more brainwashed than. Us and 1459 01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,120 Speaker 4: maybe they're not because they're in their own. Land It's North. 1460 01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:15,600 Speaker 4: Korea we're the dumbest people on the. Planet you know. 1461 01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 4: Why and it ain't, this ain't no This i'm talking about. 1462 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:20,240 Speaker 4: ME i love being. 1463 01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:24,760 Speaker 5: Here my father was In Korean, war my uncles was In, 1464 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,080 Speaker 5: vietnam my other uncles In. 1465 01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,720 Speaker 4: Germany SO i got tom you, know we got we 1466 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:36,360 Speaker 4: got patriotic shit going on. Too but the patriotism from 1467 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:37,639 Speaker 4: this end is one. 1468 01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:41,320 Speaker 5: THAT i gotta, work THAT i gotta do this, work 1469 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,400 Speaker 5: and me doing the work has got to be able 1470 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,800 Speaker 5: to tell to people who don't know and in these 1471 01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:57,800 Speaker 5: this right, here this medium was given for this moment in, 1472 01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,599 Speaker 5: time or we would not be sitting. 1473 01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:04,400 Speaker 4: There there ain't no, coincidences y'all. None so the. 1474 01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,320 Speaker 5: Fact that you've seeing my god, SON i was supposed 1475 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,160 Speaker 5: to be In, frisco you're seeing all of this happens 1476 01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,640 Speaker 5: for a. Reason and the reason is more profound than 1477 01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,479 Speaker 5: we could ever think. About because the creative wrote the 1478 01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,559 Speaker 5: plan from the end till the, beginning and we're at this. 1479 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:18,320 Speaker 5: Point but we can see by the markers in the. 1480 01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:22,559 Speaker 5: Sand we can see. It if you can't see. It 1481 01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:24,960 Speaker 5: if we can't check this, out if we can't see, 1482 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:26,880 Speaker 5: it you don't want to see. It if you don't 1483 01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,840 Speaker 5: understand what TikTok, is you don't want to see, It black. 1484 01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,759 Speaker 5: Folks so WHEN i see my people battling on, TikTok 1485 01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,400 Speaker 5: that bothers. Me that bothers me because why are we 1486 01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:44,280 Speaker 5: battling for WHAT i thought we had? Grown so when 1487 01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,880 Speaker 5: we use these, mediums they have to come across with 1488 01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:51,679 Speaker 5: some positive things that are going to reconstruct our historical. 1489 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:57,479 Speaker 5: Legacy it's been. Buried we got to reconstruct. It we 1490 01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,200 Speaker 5: gotta reinvigorate. 1491 01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 4: It and we got to Recivilize, america Make america great. Again, 1492 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:10,240 Speaker 4: okay when was it? Great not? 1493 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:15,120 Speaker 1: Fuzz when was it? 1494 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,479 Speaker 5: Great And i'm and let me say. Something and WHEN 1495 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,639 Speaker 5: i say, That i'm not saying. That i'm saying that 1496 01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,680 Speaker 5: from give me that that mindset SO i will know 1497 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,360 Speaker 5: BECAUSE i understand great over. HERE i had a great. 1498 01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,559 Speaker 5: CHILDHOOD i had a great poor. CHILDHOOD i had a 1499 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:32,559 Speaker 5: great segregated childhood because we were taught to love one. 1500 01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:39,080 Speaker 4: Another and it wasn't no it takes the village to raise. 1501 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,720 Speaker 1: It, no, no none of. 1502 01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,680 Speaker 4: That we was in the, hood and we were, neighbors 1503 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:45,320 Speaker 4: so its. 1504 01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:51,000 Speaker 5: Neighborhood now they ain't don't nobody know their neighbor and 1505 01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:51,519 Speaker 5: don't care. 1506 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:55,840 Speaker 4: To and That's. America and that's the problem with. 1507 01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:56,160 Speaker 1: Me is. 1508 01:11:56,160 --> 01:12:00,280 Speaker 5: That, Okay, craig you were taught you were blessed by 1509 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,599 Speaker 5: your mom with a certain thing on her. Mind because 1510 01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:07,639 Speaker 5: your mother saw while she was nine seven six months, 1511 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:11,080 Speaker 5: pregnant she saw dogs being sicked on her, people she 1512 01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:14,200 Speaker 5: saw pictures of people being. Lynched that was going through 1513 01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,400 Speaker 5: her to, Me, now what AM i supposed to do with? 1514 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:17,040 Speaker 1: That just? 1515 01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:23,639 Speaker 5: Hoop just hoop, hoop is what they Tell, lebron shut 1516 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:24,240 Speaker 5: up and. 1517 01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:28,280 Speaker 4: Dribble Whoa how cold was? That how cold was? 1518 01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:32,360 Speaker 5: That and the cold part of it is how many 1519 01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:39,400 Speaker 5: people think about us like that was lot in so many, 1520 01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:43,960 Speaker 5: circles in so many circles are saw we are seeing 1521 01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:49,479 Speaker 5: as a tool of, oppression. 1522 01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:53,200 Speaker 4: A medium to keep. 1523 01:12:54,400 --> 01:13:02,000 Speaker 5: Us looking at goals that are. Unattainable in nineteen seventy, 1524 01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 5: eight WHEN i graduated from high, school they said one 1525 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,640 Speaker 5: in fifty two thousand children had a chance to be 1526 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:10,960 Speaker 5: a professional athlete on any. Level that's nineteen seventy. Eight 1527 01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:12,560 Speaker 5: what is it now with the. 1528 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,880 Speaker 4: Internet you feel. Me your, sons your, twins they got. It, 1529 01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:18,240 Speaker 4: man how many they got to battle? 1530 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:22,960 Speaker 5: Against you, Know so when we look at this and 1531 01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,000 Speaker 5: you Know i'm to, ramble not to, ramble but once, 1532 01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,280 Speaker 5: again LIKE i, said y'all invited. ME i thank y'all 1533 01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,920 Speaker 5: and to be able to get this out off of my, 1534 01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:32,519 Speaker 5: chest you feel. 1535 01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:39,360 Speaker 4: Me because of, consequences people, say, man what? Man that 1536 01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,000 Speaker 4: jump shot at The White? House that cost me fifty? 1537 01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,120 Speaker 4: Million fifty? 1538 01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:48,240 Speaker 5: Million at least we ain't even talk about investment capital 1539 01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:49,640 Speaker 5: IF i can get IF i get a million AND 1540 01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:50,559 Speaker 5: i buy a million in. 1541 01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:55,840 Speaker 4: Gold but it. 1542 01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:59,599 Speaker 5: Ain't John, carlos one of my, heroes had a chance 1543 01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:01,720 Speaker 5: to talk to and to know what he went. 1544 01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:07,400 Speaker 4: Through wife so despondent. 1545 01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:14,000 Speaker 5: Commit suicide after nineteen sixty, eight and his brother ran 1546 01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,719 Speaker 5: his best win for the, country but stood for his people. 1547 01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,680 Speaker 5: Too and, see and then it becomes the, thing are We? 1548 01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:26,519 Speaker 5: Americans are We? Americans SHOULD i get backlash for being 1549 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,439 Speaker 5: able to tell what y'all taught? Me y'all, say go to, 1550 01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,920 Speaker 5: school read, learn, RIGHT i go to, school read interpret 1551 01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,080 Speaker 5: WHAT i read in a certain, manner go out and 1552 01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,320 Speaker 5: live my life in that manner THAT i read and 1553 01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,720 Speaker 5: that y'all said was cool Because i'm. Free but then 1554 01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,439 Speaker 5: it becomes a problem because now WHEN i say and 1555 01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,800 Speaker 5: write a letter to the president at thirty two years of, 1556 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,280 Speaker 5: AGE i can't get an agent to represent me in 1557 01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:52,519 Speaker 5: a union that is supposed to represent. Us Charlie, granther 1558 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,240 Speaker 5: who's the head of the union at the, time WHEN 1559 01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,240 Speaker 5: i go to The White, house he tells, Me, craig 1560 01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,880 Speaker 5: we have to find an agent that a team owes 1561 01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,479 Speaker 5: a favor so they'll know that you're not a bad. 1562 01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:05,040 Speaker 5: Guy AND i, Quote i'll never forget. That And i'm, Like, 1563 01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:05,760 Speaker 5: charlie WHAT i do? 1564 01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:07,880 Speaker 4: WRONG i won Two world. 1565 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,320 Speaker 5: CHAMPIONSHIPS i got three consecutive three titles right now in my, 1566 01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,120 Speaker 5: pocket AND i can't get a. 1567 01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:16,439 Speaker 4: Job what DID i? Do i've never been fined Since 1568 01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:16,800 Speaker 4: i've been in the. 1569 01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 5: LEAGUE i never missed a. BUS i was playing a 1570 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:23,439 Speaker 5: rep as a. Rookie that's unheard. Of i've been playing 1571 01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:25,920 Speaker 5: rep for every TEAM i played. For where is the 1572 01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:32,519 Speaker 5: badness in? That once, again those who control the. Narrative 1573 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,080 Speaker 5: so the narrative of me going to The White house 1574 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,000 Speaker 5: in this, manner me having the audacity to write the 1575 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:43,519 Speaker 5: president of a, letter which until probably five or six years, 1576 01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:44,599 Speaker 5: ago nobody asked. 1577 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,920 Speaker 4: Me what was in the? Letter, no, yo, man what 1578 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:48,200 Speaker 4: did you? 1579 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:48,479 Speaker 1: Write? 1580 01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:53,240 Speaker 4: THEN i look at MY i look At Colin, kaepernick 1581 01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:58,960 Speaker 4: the position that he. Took the union made concessions for 1582 01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:03,559 Speaker 4: him to get a. Workout at least if that had 1583 01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:05,679 Speaker 4: told me to come work, OUT, iu it wudn't worked out. Anywhere. 1584 01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,439 Speaker 4: Stuff you feel me wrong? ANYWHERE i don't. Care bring y'all. 1585 01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,479 Speaker 4: Do this is WHAT i want to. DO i ain't 1586 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,000 Speaker 4: gonna have no demands on Who i'm going to need 1587 01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:16,920 Speaker 4: here to just work. Out, no let me go work, 1588 01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:17,800 Speaker 4: out because this is What i'll. 1589 01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:21,200 Speaker 5: Do and y'all taking away from me the ability to 1590 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:24,400 Speaker 5: earn a living for my family and the generations. Thereof 1591 01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,880 Speaker 5: and All i'm saying is to, commissioner should he see, 1592 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:32,840 Speaker 5: this to all those who were his underlings or in 1593 01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:34,200 Speaker 5: this social justice or. 1594 01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:35,280 Speaker 4: WHATEVER i ain't got no. 1595 01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:39,880 Speaker 5: ANIMOSITY i got, love AND i got love and energy 1596 01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:44,599 Speaker 5: for this knowledge base and what my ancestors went. Through 1597 01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,679 Speaker 5: SO i vibe on. That so when y'all see, this 1598 01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,920 Speaker 5: this is me. Hooping now you feel my hoop is my. 1599 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,320 Speaker 5: Research my research is being able to make sure that 1600 01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,720 Speaker 5: if somebody has some questions about, This i'm able to 1601 01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,240 Speaker 5: at least give a valid, answer and IF i, Can't 1602 01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,000 Speaker 5: i'm going to research and find. It so next time 1603 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:02,400 Speaker 5: you see, Me i'm gonna have to answer for, you, 1604 01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:05,160 Speaker 5: bro so that we can move forward from wherever you 1605 01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:08,080 Speaker 5: stuck on trying to figure out whatever it. Is we 1606 01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:10,679 Speaker 5: can find the answer for it if we sit down 1607 01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:11,960 Speaker 5: and we unite. 1608 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:17,599 Speaker 4: Ourselves there's already. Done sorry to round brothers. 1609 01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:23,439 Speaker 2: Enjoining. It that's the free GAME i. WANTED i don't 1610 01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,519 Speaker 2: even KNOW i was about To where do we go from? 1611 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:32,679 Speaker 2: There DAMN i had a question for. You damn. 1612 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,200 Speaker 6: It that's, LIKE i take you a step, back, OLD 1613 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,160 Speaker 6: i gotta remember this. QUESTION i got to give me 1614 01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,240 Speaker 6: a come. Around, yeah give me a. 1615 01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:44,080 Speaker 2: Second during that time WHEN i seen you In, chicago 1616 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,200 Speaker 2: what were your thoughts OF i. 1617 01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,960 Speaker 4: Was so scared for. You you don't know SCARED i 1618 01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:50,400 Speaker 4: was for, You. 1619 01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:51,960 Speaker 1: BRO i think he told me that you. 1620 01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,680 Speaker 4: Don't know SCARED i was for, you all? 1621 01:17:55,760 --> 01:18:00,280 Speaker 5: Right and it was some sisters standing, THERE i, say, 1622 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,880 Speaker 5: says look up. There have you ever seen anything like? 1623 01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:04,040 Speaker 5: That where you standing in? 1624 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,240 Speaker 4: Here we is on the west, side right, yeap, okay 1625 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:11,080 Speaker 4: west side west. Side, now no quasi west. Side that's. 1626 01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:15,479 Speaker 2: Regentrificating, no, okay somebody that just got killed a couple 1627 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:15,800 Speaker 2: of days. 1628 01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,200 Speaker 5: Before We, now, bro let me show you something. Sad 1629 01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,000 Speaker 5: see one thing about. Me i've been talked by some 1630 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:24,559 Speaker 5: great brothers on just little, things. Okay and the first 1631 01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,800 Speaker 5: THING i do, IS i, Look, Okay i'm looking where 1632 01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:28,599 Speaker 5: you're getting ready to come. 1633 01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,679 Speaker 4: Into what do we see? Around? 1634 01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:34,400 Speaker 1: Yo? 1635 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:35,040 Speaker 3: Home? 1636 01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,639 Speaker 4: Girl let me ask you. Something, says look over there 1637 01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:39,280 Speaker 4: and look upstairs over? There what you? 1638 01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,640 Speaker 1: See she? 1639 01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,759 Speaker 4: Said, hey that's? WEIRD i, say what's weird about? 1640 01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:45,479 Speaker 1: It she? 1641 01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,800 Speaker 4: Said why is? It two white men standing up there 1642 01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:49,040 Speaker 4: in that? 1643 01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:49,519 Speaker 1: Window? 1644 01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:58,400 Speaker 4: Okay all? Right now five minutes later a suit show 1645 01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:04,000 Speaker 4: up in the window that. Day, Okay NOW i know 1646 01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:05,080 Speaker 4: this THOUGH. 1647 01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:09,080 Speaker 5: I know, THIS i KNOW i work for you feel. 1648 01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:11,439 Speaker 5: ME i KNOW i work for and it ain't even 1649 01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:12,400 Speaker 5: know it's. 1650 01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:17,080 Speaker 4: Cool so now WHEN i see, Him i'll let them 1651 01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:17,639 Speaker 4: SEE i see. 1652 01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,920 Speaker 5: Him me and my boy we walk over there and 1653 01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:21,640 Speaker 5: we look up at. 1654 01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:24,440 Speaker 4: Him, yeah we see y'all. 1655 01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:31,200 Speaker 5: Gone, back, okay and see all of this is, chaos, 1656 01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:36,760 Speaker 5: Bro all of this is, chaos all, right Understand, chicago 1657 01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:41,960 Speaker 5: take it for what it's worth and then watching take 1658 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:43,960 Speaker 5: it for what it's. Worth BUT i know at that 1659 01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,880 Speaker 5: point in time the way y'all was, moving y'all was. 1660 01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:51,599 Speaker 5: Moving y'all was, moving AND i was worried about our. 1661 01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:55,160 Speaker 4: Heart y'all was. Moving you follow, me not not worried. 1662 01:19:54,880 --> 01:20:02,439 Speaker 5: About the final, result but my people who are standing 1663 01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:06,559 Speaker 5: on something that may be in harm's, way because, man 1664 01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:08,880 Speaker 5: it's no other way but to do. 1665 01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:13,240 Speaker 1: It AND i had no. CLUE i was blind to 1666 01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:13,559 Speaker 1: a lot of. 1667 01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,840 Speaker 4: Stuff but see once, again. 1668 01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:17,559 Speaker 2: You know. 1669 01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:22,920 Speaker 4: That whole, move, bro you have heard Of George. 1670 01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:29,640 Speaker 5: Soros, Yes, okay, study we just had to study the 1671 01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:30,639 Speaker 5: bottom line that they taught. 1672 01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:32,360 Speaker 4: Us you know what they taught. Us the lesson they 1673 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:37,160 Speaker 4: taught us best one lesson followed the. Money it's gonna tell. 1674 01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:38,120 Speaker 4: You it's gonna tell. 1675 01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:38,280 Speaker 1: You. 1676 01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:43,439 Speaker 4: Okay everybody who is big has a original. 1677 01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:49,840 Speaker 5: Backer, okay THEN i go operate outside of. That, okay 1678 01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:52,400 Speaker 5: you can find it out if you want to look at. 1679 01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:59,120 Speaker 4: It hid To OPRAH. Rv, Grifflin michael Brother. Night, okay 1680 01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:03,839 Speaker 4: look at these m Hm now our Operational. 1681 01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:07,519 Speaker 5: DO i operate outside of that ONCE i get that, 1682 01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:11,599 Speaker 5: big or DO i still HAVE i got To, okay 1683 01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,439 Speaker 5: what you want to, do all? Right and that's where 1684 01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:17,479 Speaker 5: we are right, now is, that, hey, Man and it's 1685 01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:26,679 Speaker 5: a fear. Factor, Fear fear of speaking because your bread 1686 01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:27,320 Speaker 5: might stop. 1687 01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:29,519 Speaker 3: Flowing fear then of you. 1688 01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:33,759 Speaker 4: Speaking you know WHAT i heard WHEN i wasn't. Playing 1689 01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:41,719 Speaker 4: he can't play. Defense NBA's team. Defense ain't nobody stopping 1690 01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,240 Speaker 4: no one. Person he. 1691 01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,760 Speaker 5: Can't, OKAY i can't play d all, right what's the next? 1692 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,760 Speaker 5: One what's what's the next? One what's the real? 1693 01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:57,680 Speaker 4: Reason i'm a locker room? Lawyer for? Real that's. That but, 1694 01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,920 Speaker 4: Okay i'm a locker room. Lawyer but do anybody shoot like? 1695 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:07,000 Speaker 5: Me and that's that's the funny part about it to, 1696 01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:08,800 Speaker 5: me is that you, know we're talking about putting a 1697 01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:09,240 Speaker 5: ball in the. 1698 01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:17,759 Speaker 4: Basket that's, simplicity that's simplicity thinking about ways to change 1699 01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:24,200 Speaker 4: the condition of our. People. Mhm it ain't even it 1700 01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:28,400 Speaker 4: ain't even. Close it ain't even. Close that's WHY i say, basketball, man, 1701 01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:31,920 Speaker 4: please we can shoot all day and we know we 1702 01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:32,720 Speaker 4: know we're good over. 1703 01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:37,280 Speaker 5: Here children take, care, generations taking care of peace in the. 1704 01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:42,439 Speaker 4: World, man let's go. Hoop but until, that, man we 1705 01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,000 Speaker 4: gotta put in some. Study, time but in some study. 1706 01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:45,640 Speaker 1: Time that's WHY i. 1707 01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:47,360 Speaker 5: Felt like during THAT covid period he gave us the 1708 01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:52,559 Speaker 5: greatest opportunity to study and research, still, Man and, that's 1709 01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,240 Speaker 5: like you, say that's one of the hardest things for. 1710 01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:59,840 Speaker 5: It and in, wisdom, man in wisdom is to be 1711 01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:05,320 Speaker 5: able to sit still and know that anything that became 1712 01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:09,880 Speaker 5: great or moving towards greatness is done in. Patience you 1713 01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,880 Speaker 5: got to be, patient you, know be, patient be patient 1714 01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:13,120 Speaker 5: with the. 1715 01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:16,439 Speaker 4: Process you. Know and it's a. Process this is a. 1716 01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,519 Speaker 4: Process it's a process that y'all get this. Going it 1717 01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:25,680 Speaker 4: was basketball, first you know What i'm. Saying and then once. 1718 01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,679 Speaker 5: Again it began with a thought y'all brother sitting down somewhere, 1719 01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:29,439 Speaker 5: saying yea, man. 1720 01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:29,720 Speaker 4: We could do. 1721 01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,800 Speaker 5: That let's do that, shit and then pop off and 1722 01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:36,040 Speaker 5: all of a, sudden you got, staff you, hire got, 1723 01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:36,880 Speaker 5: people you're. 1724 01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,720 Speaker 4: Feeding people were able to, say, Man i'm with. 1725 01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:44,800 Speaker 5: Them that is Powerful and that's the part that it's 1726 01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:48,479 Speaker 5: so needed and necessary for this next generation to see 1727 01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:52,000 Speaker 5: that is more than me going to jack, somebody me 1728 01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,880 Speaker 5: selling this or me selling. That we have become such 1729 01:23:55,920 --> 01:24:00,280 Speaker 5: a transactional people THAT i got to get to next 1730 01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:04,439 Speaker 5: hit as opposed to being a, transition that it's a 1731 01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:07,800 Speaker 5: transitional mindset That i'm going from this point And i'm 1732 01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:09,920 Speaker 5: gonna be at this point And i'm gonna be solid 1733 01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,479 Speaker 5: at this point and being able to look back and, say, 1734 01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,800 Speaker 5: Damn i'm a professional. Now AND i tell people it's 1735 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,560 Speaker 5: a bed when they put that pro whether you be 1736 01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,360 Speaker 5: a lawyer or, doctor, whatever when they put that pro 1737 01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:22,800 Speaker 5: in front of your, nation you didn't did some. Stuff 1738 01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,920 Speaker 5: you didn't put in some, work and you've been patient 1739 01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:26,200 Speaker 5: with the process to get. 1740 01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:27,880 Speaker 4: There and so many of us. 1741 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,880 Speaker 5: Are and that's WHAT i tell like my baby, boy 1742 01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:35,680 Speaker 5: AND i love it that he totally anti. TikTok all 1743 01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:39,120 Speaker 5: that he about researching his music is GoF he's doing, 1744 01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:42,519 Speaker 5: That And i'm, like, kudos, bro because as long as you, 1745 01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:49,519 Speaker 5: continue you, KNOW i love messing. Words you, know knowledge two, 1746 01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:50,439 Speaker 5: words no. 1747 01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,360 Speaker 4: Ledge as long As i'm Thinking i'm going, up ain't 1748 01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:55,400 Speaker 4: gonna father. Off ain't no. 1749 01:24:55,520 --> 01:25:00,479 Speaker 5: Ledge so as long as we working and, STUDYING i 1750 01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,920 Speaker 5: ain't gonna fall ain't no How because. 1751 01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:06,880 Speaker 4: The hard the thing that you, know when you, play you, 1752 01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,559 Speaker 4: playing you're, playing somebody just bust you. Up and then 1753 01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,760 Speaker 4: you do. This you feel me ain't not no thoughts down. 1754 01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:14,000 Speaker 3: There. 1755 01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:16,559 Speaker 4: Man once you look, up the whole world. 1756 01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:20,559 Speaker 6: Change so, basically that letter to the president changed your 1757 01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:22,320 Speaker 6: life and your, career no. 1758 01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:24,640 Speaker 5: QUESTION i went from being the eighth player on the 1759 01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,439 Speaker 5: team and minute score and minutes play and points scored 1760 01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:29,600 Speaker 5: to the last player on the team and still won 1761 01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:30,320 Speaker 5: another three point. 1762 01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:34,960 Speaker 6: Title but you also told me after the, fact a 1763 01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:40,599 Speaker 6: lot of your brothers or former colleagues told you they 1764 01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,280 Speaker 6: felt bad because they left, you no, doubt oh by. Yourself, 1765 01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,880 Speaker 6: yes that explain. That and if you want to share 1766 01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:47,800 Speaker 6: name school if, Not but what did that mean to 1767 01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:49,120 Speaker 6: you after the. 1768 01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:51,439 Speaker 5: Fact, yeah it's one of those things where and once 1769 01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:54,840 Speaker 5: again it's the realization that we were where we were 1770 01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,880 Speaker 5: at that time nineteen ninety. ONE i was thirty one years, 1771 01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,320 Speaker 5: old you know What i'm. Saying and some the young 1772 01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,320 Speaker 5: brothers THAT i was talking today is in their, twenties, 1773 01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:07,760 Speaker 5: man and not having done the research or. Whatever SO, i, 1774 01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:10,360 Speaker 5: MAN i appreciate the. APOLOGY i appreciate all of. That i'm, 1775 01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:12,679 Speaker 5: not you, know not That i'm looking forward to, anything 1776 01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,920 Speaker 5: but knowing that now in your, wisdom you're seeing, it 1777 01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:17,439 Speaker 5: and you're seeing it for what it was that a 1778 01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,600 Speaker 5: brother was trying to share information with, you and the 1779 01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:21,639 Speaker 5: same information THAT i was sharing to you back. 1780 01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,439 Speaker 4: Then now you on it, now and you on. It 1781 01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:24,880 Speaker 4: you know What i'm, saying to the point where you. 1782 01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,439 Speaker 5: Call me and, man excited about, stuff And i'm, like, yeah, 1783 01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:30,360 Speaker 5: brother right, Ho i'm. Glad i'm glad you moving because 1784 01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:32,519 Speaker 5: that's what it, is, man is to be able to 1785 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,400 Speaker 5: get information and keep moving in it and not get. 1786 01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:39,840 Speaker 5: Stuck but at the same time knowing that how much 1787 01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:44,120 Speaker 5: how much could we have done with that, time during 1788 01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:47,599 Speaker 5: that period of time had we got on board. 1789 01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,800 Speaker 4: With the info that we was talking. About and for, 1790 01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:53,320 Speaker 4: me it's, like, Okay i'm not not once, Again i'm 1791 01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:54,080 Speaker 4: a child of the most. 1792 01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,920 Speaker 5: Time, MAN i ain't trying to be no none of. 1793 01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,800 Speaker 5: No i'll try me as me and that's ALL i 1794 01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:00,280 Speaker 5: can is. 1795 01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:04,320 Speaker 4: Me So i'm. NOT i love researching AND i love 1796 01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:05,080 Speaker 4: to be able. 1797 01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:06,920 Speaker 5: To shed that information BECAUSE i know it's gonna be 1798 01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:10,680 Speaker 5: needed and necessary in the next couple of. Days so 1799 01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:12,519 Speaker 5: that when our people look and, say how the hell 1800 01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,400 Speaker 5: did we get where we're, at somebody gonna be able 1801 01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:17,599 Speaker 5: to tell. Them, yo let me show y'all. This, okay 1802 01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,000 Speaker 5: it started back. Here, okay we're going on the gold 1803 01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,759 Speaker 5: standard just so y'all. Know, okay so that nineteen seventy 1804 01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,559 Speaker 5: one When nixon took us off the gold standard is coming, 1805 01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,880 Speaker 5: back all. Right so all this stuff you see With 1806 01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:32,720 Speaker 5: trump And Elon musk and, man it's the wild. Part 1807 01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:39,000 Speaker 5: everybody he picked on his staff is. Billionaires all. Right 1808 01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:41,040 Speaker 5: one THING i had to give them credit. 1809 01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:44,519 Speaker 4: For they know how to move these, things all. Right 1810 01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:46,640 Speaker 4: now this other THING i gotta tell you on the 1811 01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:47,519 Speaker 4: flip side of, that. 1812 01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,400 Speaker 5: If you're a billionaire In america, today you just stepped 1813 01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:51,000 Speaker 5: on a bunch of. 1814 01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,960 Speaker 4: People, okay you didn't do it the right. 1815 01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:55,679 Speaker 1: Way yeah you didn't. 1816 01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,800 Speaker 5: That now you can be feeling. Flopping, Now i'm a, 1817 01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:02,240 Speaker 5: humanitary and it's. Money how billionaires get? Billionaires humanitarian? 1818 01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:05,720 Speaker 4: Awards come on in, here, Oh. Joey, yeah he did 1819 01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:06,000 Speaker 4: a great. 1820 01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:07,800 Speaker 5: Job he gave a million, dollars but he just made 1821 01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,760 Speaker 5: four billion off of poor people In asia Or. 1822 01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:14,559 Speaker 4: Africa you. Know so things are. Flipping things are, flipping 1823 01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,120 Speaker 4: and it's flipping for the better because people who have 1824 01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:20,760 Speaker 4: heretofore had minerals, underfoot they have not been able to 1825 01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:21,599 Speaker 4: get him from under their. 1826 01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:24,439 Speaker 5: Feet and now it's a different. World it's a different 1827 01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:30,400 Speaker 5: day In. America regardless to how bright we may make this, 1828 01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:35,120 Speaker 5: thing we've been very bad to the, neighbors whether it 1829 01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:39,800 Speaker 5: be here or broad and now not Like malcolm, said 1830 01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,280 Speaker 5: chicken someon on the, roofs but we better get ready 1831 01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:47,439 Speaker 5: for some rough times as far as, economics because the 1832 01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:49,599 Speaker 5: dollar compared to other currencies is. 1833 01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:51,400 Speaker 4: Going to go to the opposite direction and we got 1834 01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:52,000 Speaker 4: to be ready for. 1835 01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,720 Speaker 2: It the revolution to televised, now, WOW i. THINK i, 1836 01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,280 Speaker 2: mean we talk about Our, tom But, kendrick that was 1837 01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,840 Speaker 2: bigger Than. Drake if you paid attention to it was 1838 01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:00,680 Speaker 2: way bigger Than. 1839 01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,639 Speaker 5: Drake and that's the part where you, know that's WHERE 1840 01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:06,120 Speaker 5: i feel like the beefing part comes in so that 1841 01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:07,400 Speaker 5: you won't see. 1842 01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:10,160 Speaker 1: That that's Exactly that's WHY i said that it was it. 1843 01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:11,840 Speaker 2: Was drake was a small part of if you look at, 1844 01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:13,559 Speaker 2: it if you knew what he, was all the stuff 1845 01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,560 Speaker 2: that he was talking about in that, Performance drake was 1846 01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:16,920 Speaker 2: a very small part of. 1847 01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:20,519 Speaker 6: It you were able to get one more championship in ninety, 1848 01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:24,320 Speaker 6: two and then you were way released and then you 1849 01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:25,880 Speaker 6: sue THE nba in ninety. 1850 01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:27,200 Speaker 3: Six can you share what that was. 1851 01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:27,920 Speaker 1: About, yeah it. 1852 01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:29,400 Speaker 4: Was SO i get a. 1853 01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:34,479 Speaker 5: Call i've been Calling commissioner's office and at that, time 1854 01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:39,759 Speaker 5: the the head security guy Was Horace. Bomber And horace 1855 01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,080 Speaker 5: calls me back, LIKE i ain't did shit? 1856 01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:42,760 Speaker 4: Wrong what you calling? 1857 01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:46,040 Speaker 5: Me i'm calling to see what's going. ON i was 1858 01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:49,280 Speaker 5: calling it as the. Commissioner why AM i being stole all? 1859 01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:51,439 Speaker 5: That every TIME i can't get an, AGENT i can't 1860 01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:53,479 Speaker 5: get a team to talk to. Me Text, winner who 1861 01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,839 Speaker 5: had and worked in the league For damnar forty. Years 1862 01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:58,559 Speaker 5: every team he, called don't, darting nobody call him. Back 1863 01:29:58,560 --> 01:29:59,960 Speaker 5: and he, said this is the first Time craig and 1864 01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,200 Speaker 5: my career THAT i didn't call teams on the player 1865 01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:04,800 Speaker 5: behalf and they ain't even call me. Back so he 1866 01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:06,920 Speaker 5: suggested to, Me, craig is time for you to start. 1867 01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:08,960 Speaker 5: Coaching so at that point in, TIME i called the 1868 01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:10,760 Speaker 5: league to ask, him, yo, man what's going? On And 1869 01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:15,280 Speaker 5: horace calls me back And i'm, Like, yo what you 1870 01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:17,639 Speaker 5: calling me? For, Well i'm trying to find out what's going. 1871 01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:19,559 Speaker 5: On i'm, LIKE i just want to find out Why 1872 01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:22,200 Speaker 5: i'm being, stonewalled and he was, like, well it ain't 1873 01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:22,680 Speaker 5: nothing like. 1874 01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:23,240 Speaker 4: THAT i. 1875 01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,040 Speaker 5: WILL i, say, WELL i need to give me an, 1876 01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:27,920 Speaker 5: attorney and he was, like, well you don't need to do, 1877 01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:30,680 Speaker 5: that and then the phone clicked AND i was like. 1878 01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:34,240 Speaker 5: Okay so at that point in, TIME i decided to 1879 01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,280 Speaker 5: get an. Attorney, now the brother THAT i GETS i 1880 01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:40,479 Speaker 5: get out Of, chicago name Was David. Odham didn't realize 1881 01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:42,160 Speaker 5: at that time he was trying to do things with 1882 01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:43,519 Speaker 5: the league and as far as represent. 1883 01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:47,040 Speaker 4: Players all, Right SO i never got A Dan court all. 1884 01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,960 Speaker 5: Right even THOUGH i was in under litigation FOR i 1885 01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:52,280 Speaker 5: guess almost two years or, WHATEVER i never went to 1886 01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:57,920 Speaker 5: court and it was finally dismissed because the statue of 1887 01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:02,320 Speaker 5: limitations for racial discriminate racial discrimination claim is two years, 1888 01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:09,280 Speaker 5: now in nineteen ninety, Two june nineteen ninety, two going 1889 01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:12,679 Speaker 5: in the, championship, right we're in, Layups i'm an active. 1890 01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:16,320 Speaker 5: Player soon as that season was, OVER i had to 1891 01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:19,840 Speaker 5: file that suit that day or the clock started. 1892 01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:21,679 Speaker 4: Ticking you didn't, KNOW i didn't. 1893 01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:22,800 Speaker 1: Know you know What i'm. 1894 01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:25,559 Speaker 4: Saying so once, again and you know, what the response 1895 01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:28,760 Speaker 4: to me on that one was just because you're ignorant to, 1896 01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:30,360 Speaker 4: it don't make you immune to. 1897 01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:32,760 Speaker 1: It And i'm, like, Cool i'm. 1898 01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:41,320 Speaker 6: Good, nah, no, mm let's get back BEFORE i want 1899 01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:44,439 Speaker 6: to obviously touch on you're giving so much gems on 1900 01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:46,639 Speaker 6: the on the dark, side but you are a three times. 1901 01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:50,559 Speaker 6: Champ talk to us about that three point contest and 1902 01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,719 Speaker 6: why it was the fourth time three in a, row. 1903 01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:55,760 Speaker 5: Three in a, row and then the fourth TIME i didn't. 1904 01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:57,720 Speaker 5: Win the fourth time the last TIME i got to, 1905 01:31:57,720 --> 01:31:59,400 Speaker 5: GO i wasn't with a team and they let me. 1906 01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:01,360 Speaker 1: Participate he's a four time. Champ. 1907 01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:05,599 Speaker 6: Yeah so so with, that no one else has ever 1908 01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:08,800 Speaker 6: done it IN nba, history and yet no one really 1909 01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:10,120 Speaker 6: knows that, either. 1910 01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:12,000 Speaker 5: Right and that's you, KNOW i think part of it, 1911 01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:16,320 Speaker 5: is you, know the ability to you, Know Jim brown 1912 01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:18,280 Speaker 5: said to, me and love love him as. 1913 01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:22,920 Speaker 4: Well he told, me, say, man the. 1914 01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:24,880 Speaker 5: Professional sports teams control the. Media AND i was, like, 1915 01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:27,120 Speaker 5: Okay then you finally see it when you get. Older 1916 01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:30,439 Speaker 5: you see how certain certain teams have certain media people 1917 01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:32,600 Speaker 5: that they aligned to to get their message out or 1918 01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:35,320 Speaker 5: send out little debs or. Whatever and for, ME i 1919 01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:37,920 Speaker 5: think that that's what it bore down to that THE 1920 01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:41,519 Speaker 5: nba realized that WHAT i did at The White house or, 1921 01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:45,000 Speaker 5: whatever it wasn't in conjunction with what they. Wanted but 1922 01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:47,519 Speaker 5: at the same time it was one of the things 1923 01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:49,680 Speaker 5: that you can't deny What i've done as far as 1924 01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,639 Speaker 5: shooting of. Basketball you, know to this, DAY i don't 1925 01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:55,000 Speaker 5: think anybody competed in more three point contest THAN i. 1926 01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:58,519 Speaker 5: DID i lost probably the person, four you, know To, 1927 01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:01,280 Speaker 5: larry and THEN i Think Dale ellis might have, won 1928 01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:02,080 Speaker 5: and THEN i won my. 1929 01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:04,719 Speaker 4: Three but you, know it was one of those, things. 1930 01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:07,719 Speaker 5: Man for, me is just a competition of knowing that 1931 01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,080 Speaker 5: this is something THAT i love to do shoot the, 1932 01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,280 Speaker 5: ball but at the same time to be in a 1933 01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:15,479 Speaker 5: competition of, it that's pretty. Cool and to be able 1934 01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:17,840 Speaker 5: to put up some records and to be able to know, 1935 01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:19,720 Speaker 5: that you, know at that point in, time at a 1936 01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,120 Speaker 5: point in, HISTORY i could say THAT i was the 1937 01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:30,040 Speaker 5: best shoot on the. Planet, well for, me it's three 1938 01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:33,400 Speaker 5: parts of your. Shot, foundation form and follow. Through you 1939 01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:36,280 Speaker 5: know What i'm, saying and to be able to know 1940 01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:40,120 Speaker 5: how to rhythmically do, that to do it, off to, 1941 01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:43,680 Speaker 5: dribble to do it, off to catch to what are you? 1942 01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:45,600 Speaker 5: Looking one of the first THINGS i ask somebody is 1943 01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:46,439 Speaker 5: what are you looking at when you? 1944 01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:47,639 Speaker 4: Shoot you know What i'm? 1945 01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:51,320 Speaker 5: Saying so for, ME i look at probably six inches 1946 01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:54,360 Speaker 5: above the. Rim that's What i'm focused. On and if 1947 01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:56,439 Speaker 5: it's off, glass it's six inches off the, glass six 1948 01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:59,240 Speaker 5: inches above the rim off. Glass that every no ball 1949 01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:01,679 Speaker 5: can go in that rim unless it's at least whether 1950 01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,080 Speaker 5: you're duncan it or, not you got to have you 1951 01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:07,040 Speaker 5: got to have at least that much. Clearance so my 1952 01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:10,000 Speaker 5: thing is WHEN i hear people Say i'm looking at you, 1953 01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:11,640 Speaker 5: know young folks Saying i'm looking at the back of the. 1954 01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:13,560 Speaker 5: Rim you couldn't be looking at the back of the 1955 01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:16,000 Speaker 5: rim because you're not twelve feet, tall so you're looking 1956 01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:18,519 Speaker 5: under the. Rim so probably ninety percent of your shots 1957 01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:21,120 Speaker 5: are gonna hit front rim because your eye is focused 1958 01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:23,200 Speaker 5: and your ball is gonna go where your eye tells 1959 01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:25,320 Speaker 5: it to. Go SO i don't care who you shooting. 1960 01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:28,160 Speaker 5: With when you, look that's where your ball is gonna. Go, 1961 01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:30,960 Speaker 5: now whether, enough you put enough energy or, whatever that's 1962 01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:32,559 Speaker 5: what they all you're looking. At and that's the part 1963 01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:34,760 Speaker 5: WHERE i tell people in as far as how you plan, 1964 01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:37,479 Speaker 5: IS i was blessed to have. Text LIKE i, Said 1965 01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:40,400 Speaker 5: text taught me to play with a three foot cushion around, 1966 01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:42,439 Speaker 5: me and that at three FEET i don't care if 1967 01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:44,880 Speaker 5: you should kill. O'Neil IF i go into my. Jay 1968 01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:46,760 Speaker 5: by the time you react to, that it's gonna be 1969 01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:47,160 Speaker 5: too fucking. 1970 01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,120 Speaker 4: Late excuse My. French you know What i'm. Saying it's 1971 01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:50,880 Speaker 4: gonna be gone and you're gonna might. 1972 01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:53,400 Speaker 5: Might clap my hand or. Whatever but by that point 1973 01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:56,400 Speaker 5: my ball is already. Gone so in teaching, IT i teach, 1974 01:34:56,479 --> 01:35:00,080 Speaker 5: that you, know, foundation, form follow. THROUGH i can act 1975 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,400 Speaker 5: say that When i'm. Shooting so WHEN i go into 1976 01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:04,360 Speaker 5: MY i like to shoot out of a two to 1977 01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:07,280 Speaker 5: foot jump stop you feel, Me So i'm hopping into 1978 01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:08,360 Speaker 5: my shot AS i go into. 1979 01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:08,760 Speaker 1: It that's. 1980 01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:11,439 Speaker 5: Foundation i'm gonna say. That AS i go, Up i'm into, 1981 01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:13,639 Speaker 5: form and WHEN i, Finish i'm in to follow. Through 1982 01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:15,639 Speaker 5: and WHEN i say follow, through the ball that's coming 1983 01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:17,519 Speaker 5: through the net and it's. Nothing and when you teach 1984 01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:20,559 Speaker 5: children that get gases them because they swearing up and 1985 01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:22,600 Speaker 5: down that when they watch you, shoot that this is 1986 01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:23,400 Speaker 5: some type of magic. 1987 01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:23,679 Speaker 1: Trick. 1988 01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:24,640 Speaker 4: No. 1989 01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:26,600 Speaker 5: No and the way THAT i found the way THAT 1990 01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,400 Speaker 5: i teach that is that WHEN i was in a 1991 01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:31,880 Speaker 5: three point, competition one ball THAT i shot with a, 1992 01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:35,599 Speaker 5: moneyball it went through and WHEN i was watching the slow. 1993 01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:38,040 Speaker 5: Motion it had the same amount of space all the 1994 01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,160 Speaker 5: way around the. Rim so the ball was right in 1995 01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:43,240 Speaker 5: the center of the target and it was the same 1996 01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:45,439 Speaker 5: amount of space around. It SO i rewound that back 1997 01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:48,160 Speaker 5: to see WHAT i did on that particular. 1998 01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:50,000 Speaker 4: Shot and WHAT i. DID i brought it out the, 1999 01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:52,320 Speaker 4: RACK i went into my HOT i went into my, 2000 01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:54,439 Speaker 4: farm AND i went into my follow through AND i 2001 01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:57,640 Speaker 4: started saying it at that point and from you, know 2002 01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:01,200 Speaker 4: LIKE i, said for, me it's being able to like 2003 01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:03,599 Speaker 4: people will laugh when we will be watching Take WHEN 2004 01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:06,000 Speaker 4: i was with the, Bulls oh look at how over 2005 01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:07,040 Speaker 4: there He jones. 2006 01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:08,960 Speaker 5: And RIGHT mj would have a ball on the other 2007 01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:10,639 Speaker 5: side of the, court And i'm in this corner over 2008 01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:14,400 Speaker 5: here And i'm in my triple threat. Position go if, 2009 01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:18,400 Speaker 5: waiting if you get, it, man, man you know What i'm, saying. 2010 01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:21,200 Speaker 5: Man and so it's a picture with me and M. 2011 01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:23,599 Speaker 5: J and it's looking like he's talking in my ear 2012 01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:25,840 Speaker 5: and people, like, man what was he saying to? You, 2013 01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:28,040 Speaker 5: no this is WHAT i was saying to. Him give 2014 01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:30,400 Speaker 5: me the, ball, man you real. 2015 01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:32,760 Speaker 4: Me and that's because if you throw it over, here 2016 01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:36,840 Speaker 4: if you throw it over, here it's gonna be good 2017 01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:40,120 Speaker 4: eighty five to ninety percent of the time with our 2018 01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:43,400 Speaker 4: question That i'm not And i'm not gonna miss open 2019 01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:49,120 Speaker 4: that was that that ain't. Happened That, no now somebody 2020 01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:51,599 Speaker 4: running at, me maybe me coming off my tap too 2021 01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:55,080 Speaker 4: early and not getting got not getting this. Cocked and 2022 01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:56,560 Speaker 4: that's one of the things THAT i want you to 2023 01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:59,040 Speaker 4: tell your children, is, man this is so. 2024 01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:00,519 Speaker 3: CRITICAL i want you to teach. 2025 01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:03,240 Speaker 5: Them, yeah this is critical right, here that this happens so, 2026 01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:06,720 Speaker 5: much all, Right AND i call that rolling into your. 2027 01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:10,080 Speaker 5: Shot so we'll have people start here and you'll see 2028 01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:12,080 Speaker 5: them and when they finally get to the, top this. 2029 01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:14,519 Speaker 5: Happened AND i tell, them once you at the, top 2030 01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:17,360 Speaker 5: bring that. Down bring that. Down and now you're into 2031 01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:20,320 Speaker 5: your triple. Threat so if you watch, cold get that, THING, 2032 01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:23,160 Speaker 5: mj get that thing they on you feel. Me and 2033 01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:26,439 Speaker 5: now when you, turn it's already. There it's already. There 2034 01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:28,960 Speaker 5: you're already, loaded you know What i'm. Saying so being 2035 01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:33,120 Speaker 5: able to make sure that you work on that all the. 2036 01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:35,599 Speaker 5: Time you work on that all the, time you, know 2037 01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:41,240 Speaker 5: and that this here and once, again how DO i 2038 01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:45,240 Speaker 5: make sure THAT i minimize the of the amount of 2039 01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:46,160 Speaker 5: error that can. 2040 01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:47,200 Speaker 4: Occur all. 2041 01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:51,200 Speaker 5: Right ONCE i take this, out this can't. Happen so 2042 01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:53,960 Speaker 5: that's not gonna. Be that's not gonna be in my. Shot, 2043 01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:56,479 Speaker 5: LIKEWISE i want to make sure that when my ball, 2044 01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:58,080 Speaker 5: starts my ball never drops. 2045 01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:00,360 Speaker 4: Below my core. Ever. 2046 01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:06,000 Speaker 5: Ever i'm never bringing my ball down and take it. Up, never, never, 2047 01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:09,920 Speaker 5: never because when I'm i'm always gonna make sure that 2048 01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:11,240 Speaker 5: my core is beneath my. 2049 01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:14,439 Speaker 4: Ball my core is holding my, ball not my ball 2050 01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:14,920 Speaker 4: holding my. 2051 01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:19,200 Speaker 5: Core i'm underneath. It i'm underneath that thing every. Time 2052 01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:23,840 Speaker 5: so now this is a. Platform my core sets the 2053 01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:26,560 Speaker 5: platform for my, elbow and then we up and the 2054 01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:29,320 Speaker 5: way we're up and the way so on. Catch I'm 2055 01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:33,519 Speaker 5: i'm creating my rhythm off that, pass all. Right that 2056 01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:35,360 Speaker 5: rhythm off the pass is just like me off my. 2057 01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:37,880 Speaker 4: Dribble SO i go off my drill into my hot 2058 01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:40,960 Speaker 4: and by the time my feet come, down my wrist 2059 01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:44,120 Speaker 4: is cocked And i'm gone where a lot. 2060 01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,679 Speaker 5: Of people come down or people going to a one count. 2061 01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:50,479 Speaker 5: Stride stop you feel me If i'm playing against a 2062 01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:53,519 Speaker 5: person that has a one count, stride stop going left 2063 01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:58,599 Speaker 5: to right to. Shoot ONCE i can gauge That i'm 2064 01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:01,320 Speaker 5: not letting you get that right for full all, right 2065 01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:03,519 Speaker 5: we played Against Andrew, tony who's one of the greatest 2066 01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:07,519 Speaker 5: scores for The philadelphia seventy six. Ers we're playing them 2067 01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:10,240 Speaker 5: in the playoffs In, milwaukee and once, again you, Know 2068 01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:13,840 Speaker 5: nellie's stickler for. Tape so we watching tape and we 2069 01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:17,479 Speaker 5: watched him give The lakers thirty and it won't won't 2070 01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:18,760 Speaker 5: too wo. 2071 01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:21,360 Speaker 4: Man we were, like, oh that's all we gotta. Do, 2072 01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:23,880 Speaker 4: Man we ain't doing nothing but riding that right. 2073 01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:25,920 Speaker 5: Side every time he got ready to come to a, 2074 01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:28,519 Speaker 5: stop no jump on that right, arm and he oh. 2075 01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:32,400 Speaker 5: No because as, players we know what is our comfort. 2076 01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:35,000 Speaker 5: Zone you feel, me and If i'm going into a 2077 01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:38,160 Speaker 5: one count stride stop in the first quarter in the fourth, 2078 01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:40,040 Speaker 5: quarter it's not going to be nearly as strong with 2079 01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:41,519 Speaker 5: Us josslyn around and, Shit. 2080 01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:43,960 Speaker 6: So you're some one of the things the two foot 2081 01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:45,400 Speaker 6: is for the jump shooter is. 2082 01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:46,599 Speaker 1: Better, yeah and. 2083 01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:49,360 Speaker 4: It's another reason for it that IF i catch this thing. 2084 01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:50,519 Speaker 3: Off teach one not to cut you. 2085 01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:54,559 Speaker 6: OFF a lot of people teach the one too is too. 2086 01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:59,439 Speaker 4: Slow checked this, Out James. Brown we on the one 2087 01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:02,679 Speaker 4: with the hop you know you're on one. Two so 2088 01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:03,120 Speaker 4: how is that. 2089 01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:04,880 Speaker 5: Faster so WHEN i got with The clippers as a, 2090 01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:08,760 Speaker 5: rookie we're doing the turnout. Drill, Right i'm coming off 2091 01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:10,240 Speaker 5: this thing and my ball going to the rack so 2092 01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:12,960 Speaker 5: quick they can't figure it. Out everybody else is coming out. 2093 01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:16,320 Speaker 5: There one, Two i'm coming around there as that ball is. 2094 01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:19,640 Speaker 5: Coming i'm turning my end the. Shoulder let it. Go 2095 01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,360 Speaker 5: so it ain't, no it ain't no me turning WHEN 2096 01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:25,920 Speaker 5: i get the. Ball i'm already. Turning you feel. Me 2097 01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:30,519 Speaker 5: and that's the difference That i'm. Saying, okay, now IF 2098 01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:32,680 Speaker 5: i catch this ball and that camera is coming at 2099 01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:35,080 Speaker 5: me And i'm catching a one kind of stride, Stop 2100 01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:39,720 Speaker 5: i'm locked with my pivot foot. Man and the way 2101 01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:42,720 Speaker 5: these kids got these, TAPS i can tap and act 2102 01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:44,400 Speaker 5: Like i'm going into my, Hop i'm stilling in. 2103 01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:46,160 Speaker 4: IT i ain't stilling. Ready NOW i got my three 2104 01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:47,840 Speaker 4: feet and let it. 2105 01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:50,000 Speaker 5: Ride AND i tell, people you look at Step steph's 2106 01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:51,880 Speaker 5: not shooting that thing from forty feet off of one. 2107 01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:54,080 Speaker 4: Leg he's shooting that thing off a two foot. 2108 01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:56,799 Speaker 5: Jump stop is just happening so, quick and he's launching 2109 01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:02,559 Speaker 5: knowing that my follow three from forty is going. 2110 01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:05,360 Speaker 4: To be down. Here not up. 2111 01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:08,040 Speaker 5: Here so when he's shooting that thing and he finished in, 2112 01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:12,760 Speaker 5: time you're with. It And i'm telling, Kids i'm not 2113 01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:15,360 Speaker 5: leaving my. Shot i'm staying with it TILL i see 2114 01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:17,960 Speaker 5: the ball go through the. Net if my ball is 2115 01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:19,960 Speaker 5: bouncing around the, Rim i'm bouncing with. 2116 01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:22,320 Speaker 4: It i'm bouncing with. It i'm bouncing with it till it, 2117 01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:23,920 Speaker 4: fall and Then i'm done with. 2118 01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:28,800 Speaker 5: It never, never, never my eyes on that six inch. 2119 01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:30,599 Speaker 5: Point so WHEN i catch that thing And i'm ninety 2120 01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:33,080 Speaker 5: four feet away in full core, pressure my defense in 2121 01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:35,080 Speaker 5: front of, Me i'm still looking at that six inch. 2122 01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:38,000 Speaker 4: POINT i can see. You you feel. Me, now when 2123 01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:39,000 Speaker 4: you get up in, ME i gotta. 2124 01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:40,680 Speaker 5: TURN i might look at you for a, second But 2125 01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:42,840 Speaker 5: i'm back at my six inch point because that's WHERE 2126 01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:43,920 Speaker 5: i want this thing to finally. 2127 01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:45,920 Speaker 4: Go you feel. Me and the MORE i keep my 2128 01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:47,760 Speaker 4: head and eyes, up the MORE i can see. 2129 01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:47,880 Speaker 1: It. 2130 01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:51,200 Speaker 5: Early it's like going into a gun shot into a gunfight. 2131 01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:54,200 Speaker 5: Blindfolded so many kids come off of that jack do all, 2132 01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:55,280 Speaker 5: this and now you're raising. 2133 01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:57,800 Speaker 4: Up now you're trying to find your. Target all, RIGHT 2134 01:41:58,000 --> 01:41:58,600 Speaker 4: i find my. 2135 01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:01,600 Speaker 5: TARGET i find my, target and then like in the, 2136 01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:02,840 Speaker 5: league we, think, create. 2137 01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:06,400 Speaker 4: Eliminade ONCE i create my, SPACE i eliminate. Defender you feel, 2138 01:42:06,439 --> 01:42:09,599 Speaker 4: me create my three, feet eliminate, them create three, feet eliminated. 2139 01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:11,880 Speaker 4: Them catch off Catch if they're, there it's too. Late 2140 01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:12,760 Speaker 4: you know What i'm. 2141 01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:15,559 Speaker 5: Saying and that's that's the part where it's all about 2142 01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:19,439 Speaker 5: putting in the practice and knowing, that trusting in the 2143 01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:22,120 Speaker 5: process of what you're. Doing, so like you, said how my, 2144 01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:26,479 Speaker 5: sons my oldest boy all time three point shooter At 2145 01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:27,480 Speaker 5: Long Beach state. 2146 01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:31,320 Speaker 4: When he was in high. School they're trying to tell 2147 01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:33,840 Speaker 4: him to shoot. Differently he. Came he's been doing this 2148 01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:35,680 Speaker 4: since he came out the roomb, Dude so they do 2149 01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:37,479 Speaker 4: you feel? Me don't try to change. 2150 01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:39,960 Speaker 5: It and the thing about it, IS i guarantee you 2151 01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:43,280 Speaker 5: if get them to look at them sites that we're talking, 2152 01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:46,280 Speaker 5: about all, right so, many so many children are still 2153 01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:48,640 Speaker 5: looking at rim or they Looking i'm looking at the 2154 01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:52,320 Speaker 5: hangar that, no no look at because ONCE i in the, 2155 01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:55,479 Speaker 5: RAY i found out THAT i taught. Myself that was 2156 01:42:55,800 --> 01:43:00,040 Speaker 5: WHEN i was growing up on the school. Ground the 2157 01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:03,760 Speaker 5: light would go down from the sun AND i could 2158 01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:06,280 Speaker 5: only shoot on this end where AND i was seeing 2159 01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:08,320 Speaker 5: nothing but the line because it wasn't on. Net SO 2160 01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:10,080 Speaker 5: i was just trying to put my ball over that, 2161 01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:12,599 Speaker 5: line over that, line over that, line over that, line. 2162 01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:14,680 Speaker 4: And not come. Out that line is six inches above your. 2163 01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:17,439 Speaker 5: Target and now it's all about training your eye where 2164 01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:19,720 Speaker 5: you're not looking at no. Rim i'm not looking at 2165 01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:21,519 Speaker 5: the rim no. More i'm looking at that point in. 2166 01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:24,080 Speaker 5: Space and if that ball goes on that, point that 2167 01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:26,439 Speaker 5: it's going. In and we know that two balls can 2168 01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:28,840 Speaker 5: fit in the basket at one, time so why SHOULD 2169 01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:29,200 Speaker 5: i miss? 2170 01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:30,000 Speaker 1: One m. 2171 01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:33,120 Speaker 2: Hmm were you in that three point contest when Lad bird, 2172 01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:34,599 Speaker 2: said h how y'all? 2173 01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:35,799 Speaker 1: Doing but who coming in? Second? 2174 01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:41,160 Speaker 4: This this that's the very first. One that's the, one 2175 01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:42,599 Speaker 4: that's the first one they ever. 2176 01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,639 Speaker 1: Had, okay, yeah. 2177 01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,120 Speaker 5: So you know how they do THE. Nba you come 2178 01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:47,880 Speaker 5: to take the pictures and all. That you're getting ready 2179 01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:50,000 Speaker 5: to take the, pictures, right so everybody, Waiting No larry to. 2180 01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:50,959 Speaker 1: Come in right. 2181 01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:57,519 Speaker 4: Sitting, there sitting, there bust the dophin walk. 2182 01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:05,040 Speaker 5: Around you might do a little. Something, yeah, naw you 2183 01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:07,799 Speaker 5: ain't gonna. Know you shot yourself out of warm. Ups 2184 01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:10,360 Speaker 5: talking about Leon, wood he, said you shot yourself. Out, 2185 01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:16,280 Speaker 5: yeah who comes a, second let's take the picture. 2186 01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:19,439 Speaker 4: And then take off his sweat. 2187 01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:22,759 Speaker 1: Jacket, yeah he did not take his jacket. 2188 01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:25,280 Speaker 4: Off he takes jacket. Off BUT i tell, people where'd you? 2189 01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:26,519 Speaker 3: PLACE i came? 2190 01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:29,080 Speaker 4: In he beat? Me he beat me that, there he beat. 2191 01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:31,360 Speaker 4: Me actually the first, year. 2192 01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:36,720 Speaker 5: The very first, ROUND i set a. RECORD i made 2193 01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:40,519 Speaker 5: twenty five points in that very first. Round, ever then 2194 01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:43,240 Speaker 5: we went to the second round and me And Dale ellis, 2195 01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:44,680 Speaker 5: tie so we had to have a. 2196 01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:47,439 Speaker 4: Shootout that shootout got my. Legs and THEN i went 2197 01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:48,680 Speaker 4: to the finals And bertie got. 2198 01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:51,360 Speaker 5: Me but, yeah he's bird, talking AND i love it 2199 01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:53,880 Speaker 5: Because bertie talked and he backed, up you know What i'm. 2200 01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:55,960 Speaker 5: Saying but at the same, time it was always a 2201 01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:59,439 Speaker 5: thing where a jump shooter would never, win AND i was, like, nah, 2202 01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:00,240 Speaker 5: Man i'm gona in. 2203 01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:00,559 Speaker 1: It at some. 2204 01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:03,400 Speaker 5: Point it's just LIKE i, said trust the process and 2205 01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:05,719 Speaker 5: stay with. It so every YEAR i THINK i might've 2206 01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:06,200 Speaker 5: been in the eight. 2207 01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:07,519 Speaker 4: Times you, know m. 2208 01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:10,879 Speaker 3: Favorite part about playing With mike. 2209 01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:16,320 Speaker 5: Knowing that every time you walk into arena it's gonna be, 2210 01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:18,599 Speaker 5: packed you know What i'm, Saying and it ain't no. 2211 01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:22,200 Speaker 5: Better y'all, know y'all, know and like and knowing that 2212 01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:25,200 Speaker 5: it was like with being being with the beatles of. 2213 01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:27,599 Speaker 5: Somebody man that every every place you, go we would 2214 01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:31,080 Speaker 5: drop him j off around the corner before we get to. Hotels, 2215 01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:32,840 Speaker 5: man he'd get in the white vand and come through 2216 01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:35,160 Speaker 5: the different hotel and we come bus pull up in 2217 01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:35,439 Speaker 5: front of the. 2218 01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:37,680 Speaker 4: Hotel three hundred people out there waiting for him to 2219 01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:38,040 Speaker 4: get off the. 2220 01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:39,400 Speaker 3: Bus ain't man, here. 2221 01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:42,600 Speaker 4: Y'all standing there waiting in, here, man you. 2222 01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:45,080 Speaker 5: Know SO i would they would laugh BECAUSE i would 2223 01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:47,280 Speaker 5: call him the, president you know What i'm. Saying BECAUSE 2224 01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:50,559 Speaker 5: i was, like, dude we were be in snowstorms flying 2225 01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:56,960 Speaker 5: we never we, never we never went around, ever. 2226 01:45:57,200 --> 01:45:58,960 Speaker 4: And it's like we ain't gonna fly. 2227 01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:03,280 Speaker 5: Around we got a national treasure on board the getting 2228 01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:03,599 Speaker 5: us out. 2229 01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:08,800 Speaker 6: There you feel, me please? Please what was he? LIKE 2230 01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:11,040 Speaker 6: i mean we saw a side on on the last. 2231 01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:12,360 Speaker 6: Dance what was? 2232 01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:13,360 Speaker 1: It what was he? Like day to? 2233 01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:21,479 Speaker 4: Day he mj was, different different cat. Man you Know 2234 01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:23,519 Speaker 4: and do you you've played? Around? 2235 01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:24,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he different. 2236 01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:27,479 Speaker 4: Dude some day some days he be m, Jake he 2237 01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:29,960 Speaker 4: laugh and go. Lucky then there might be some business 2238 01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:31,760 Speaker 4: shit on his. Head you know What i'm. Saying he 2239 01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:32,160 Speaker 4: come in. 2240 01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:35,000 Speaker 5: Different but the one thing when he strapped him, up 2241 01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:37,160 Speaker 5: he was coming to get, down you know What i'm. 2242 01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:38,599 Speaker 4: Saying AND i. 2243 01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:41,360 Speaker 5: Love that because that's the competition that we look, for 2244 01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:45,080 Speaker 5: is every day making each other. Better SO i told, people, 2245 01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:47,000 Speaker 5: yeah y'all see HIM j getting, Down that's Because i'm 2246 01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:48,639 Speaker 5: mak him better every, day you know What i'm. 2247 01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:49,519 Speaker 4: Saying so it's one. 2248 01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:53,160 Speaker 5: Of those things that to and and to see how you, 2249 01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:55,680 Speaker 5: know you coming to the league and you'd be, like you, 2250 01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:58,080 Speaker 5: know getting your feet wet or, whatever and you see 2251 01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:01,559 Speaker 5: how some people come into or with a certain and 2252 01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:03,920 Speaker 5: they have the green light to do it. Too so you, 2253 01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:06,960 Speaker 5: know you HEAR mj tail Phil, man you know What i'm, 2254 01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:08,320 Speaker 5: saying where other people are, like oh. 2255 01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:10,040 Speaker 4: Man but it's one of. 2256 01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:12,920 Speaker 5: Them things where it's a certain level ground that he 2257 01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:15,160 Speaker 5: has compared to other, players and you know What i'm, 2258 01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:17,200 Speaker 5: saying and that it was a hierarchy to, it and 2259 01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:20,040 Speaker 5: he understood, that he understood what he brought to the, 2260 01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:21,800 Speaker 5: table what he brought to the, team what he brought 2261 01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:25,760 Speaker 5: to the, organization and what could what he could do with. 2262 01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:28,479 Speaker 5: That you know how much how many freebies he got from? 2263 01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:31,280 Speaker 4: That you know What i'm, saying driving free ferraris getting 2264 01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:33,360 Speaker 4: houses built for, you all that type of, Stuff so 2265 01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:36,160 Speaker 4: it's not you, know it was one of those things 2266 01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:38,840 Speaker 4: that he could handle, it and he handled, IT i 2267 01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:41,160 Speaker 4: guess as best as anybody, could because nobody ever been. 2268 01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:42,559 Speaker 4: There you know What i'm, saying. 2269 01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:44,440 Speaker 3: A favorite part about coaching code. 2270 01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:49,760 Speaker 5: Just to see how like you were, saying how in your, 2271 01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:54,320 Speaker 5: case how he saw how to help you get off 2272 01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:56,320 Speaker 5: when you didn't have it in your hand. 2273 01:47:56,960 --> 01:48:00,600 Speaker 4: Right and he told, me, say, man HOW i checked this. 2274 01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:03,360 Speaker 5: Out IF i can get everybody to play at their, 2275 01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:07,120 Speaker 5: greatest Not kobe, great but their, own ain't nobody gonna beat? 2276 01:48:07,200 --> 01:48:10,200 Speaker 5: Us and to, me that was something THAT i never 2277 01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:12,920 Speaker 5: would SEE. Mj do you feel me if you got 2278 01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:15,720 Speaker 5: better with? THEM, j you got, Better it wasn't never 2279 01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:20,000 Speaker 5: gonna be like man, brother Where cob would give you 2280 01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:24,000 Speaker 5: kudos if you getting better THAT i. Didn't you, KNOW 2281 01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:26,519 Speaker 5: i didn't see. THAT i didn't feel that with, HIM. 2282 01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:28,760 Speaker 5: J i was around, them And i've seen how many 2283 01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:32,400 Speaker 5: players went the other direction because of how you demoralized 2284 01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:34,680 Speaker 5: them with this, bravado you know What i'm. 2285 01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:35,439 Speaker 4: Saying where it was not. 2286 01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:37,479 Speaker 5: Unnecessary you didn't have to do that to, that, brother 2287 01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:39,960 Speaker 5: because it's a. Dirt and that's the thing is that 2288 01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:43,600 Speaker 5: it's a dirt certain and different mentality and personality that 2289 01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:46,880 Speaker 5: we deal with. Too that some players are hardcore and 2290 01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:48,559 Speaker 5: can deal with, it but other players going to. 2291 01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:51,040 Speaker 4: Back up and you, know subside to. 2292 01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:52,840 Speaker 1: It quick. 2293 01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:54,000 Speaker 3: Hitters first team to come to. 2294 01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:58,200 Speaker 6: Mind let us, know rank your top Five chicago hoopers? 2295 01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:04,679 Speaker 4: Ever oh got top five hoopers In? Chicago? 2296 01:49:04,760 --> 01:49:10,759 Speaker 5: Ever Billy harris who you probably you. Know billy played 2297 01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:16,040 Speaker 5: At Northern. Illinois he was a great. SHOOTER i had 2298 01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:17,000 Speaker 5: to Put Ben wilson in. 2299 01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:17,760 Speaker 4: There And. 2300 01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:26,120 Speaker 5: Mitchell anderson played in the league For. Utah he averaged 2301 01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:29,720 Speaker 5: forty four game in my senior year in high. School 2302 01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:37,200 Speaker 5: isaiah and probably mm. 2303 01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:48,320 Speaker 4: Hmmm Quinn Buckner Wann. Buckner Quinn quinn might be number. 2304 01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:51,200 Speaker 4: One you. Know he was the number one high school 2305 01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:52,080 Speaker 4: football and basketball. 2306 01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:53,479 Speaker 3: Player he played both. 2307 01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:55,800 Speaker 4: Quarterback IN. 2308 01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:58,800 Speaker 1: Qb he was at WHEN i was playing for the. 2309 01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:02,000 Speaker 4: Place, yeah, man he Was indiana. Game he played football 2310 01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:04,200 Speaker 4: and Basketball. Indiana Tobobbi knight told me you had to. 2311 01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:07,519 Speaker 1: Quit. Yep he was like, that telling you man that. 2312 01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:10,880 Speaker 5: Man they high school, team Thorn Ridge High. School They 2313 01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:13,759 Speaker 5: quinn went to they lost one game in two. Years, 2314 01:50:13,960 --> 01:50:17,080 Speaker 5: okay they were their average scoring margin. 2315 01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:17,560 Speaker 4: Thirty points a. 2316 01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:19,040 Speaker 3: Game n smacking. 2317 01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:21,840 Speaker 5: People And i'm talking About i'm talking about where the 2318 01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:24,880 Speaker 5: high school, Team Bloom High. SCHOOL i sat there at 2319 01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:27,800 Speaker 5: half court and watched them play against Thorn. Ridge they 2320 01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:30,280 Speaker 5: got the ball across half court four times in one. 2321 01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:33,519 Speaker 5: Half they're gonna press, you, Man and it wasn't even, 2322 01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:34,760 Speaker 5: ball Wasn't eve getting across half. 2323 01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:37,840 Speaker 4: Court, man And quinn was in the middle PLAYING Qb. 2324 01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:41,400 Speaker 1: Crazy five dinner Against Dead. 2325 01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:52,960 Speaker 4: Alive ah uh, yeah sure the Christ. One uh Probably Muhammed. 2326 01:50:56,720 --> 01:51:14,120 Speaker 8: Mansimosa with Your Black man Ever Marcus, Garvey Marcus, garvey 2327 01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:16,080 Speaker 8: my guy In. 2328 01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:16,640 Speaker 1: Noble. 2329 01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:22,640 Speaker 3: My one album you can play with no? 2330 01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:28,000 Speaker 4: Skips how does In July Stevie Steve. 2331 01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:31,680 Speaker 5: WONDER i used to play that in, college, Man AND 2332 01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:34,479 Speaker 5: i wouldn't miss a jump of the whole, album with the. 2333 01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:35,360 Speaker 1: Whole the whole. 2334 01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:43,639 Speaker 9: ALBUM i wished the jumper the whole heard album one, 2335 01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:47,280 Speaker 9: selection let the whole thing miss. 2336 01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:49,080 Speaker 4: ONE i ain't miss no. Jumpers i'm telling. 2337 01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:50,760 Speaker 5: YOU i would go in The Long Beach State gym 2338 01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:53,640 Speaker 5: by myself at night SO i would see you like 2339 01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:56,160 Speaker 5: with me the brothers always try to get me go to, parties, 2340 01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:58,600 Speaker 5: Right SO i dip in the, party act LIKE i 2341 01:51:58,640 --> 01:52:00,920 Speaker 5: got a, drink and soon as they turn it, Back i'm. 2342 01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:05,720 Speaker 4: Gone right they coming from the, Party i'm coming back. From, 2343 01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:10,439 Speaker 4: Man why you ain't tell? US i didn't come here 2344 01:52:10,479 --> 01:52:14,760 Speaker 4: with you to tell, You so it's that for you 2345 01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:15,840 Speaker 4: to do, too you know What i'm. 2346 01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:18,360 Speaker 5: Saying so that would, MAN i was going there and 2347 01:52:18,439 --> 01:52:23,280 Speaker 5: y'all remember the y'all probably too, young remember the eight 2348 01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:24,400 Speaker 5: track players with the. 2349 01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:32,160 Speaker 4: Plunger that was me and my track. Player no, missus, 2350 01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:34,400 Speaker 4: Man i'm telling, YOU i wish and that and that 2351 01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:36,200 Speaker 4: would be My that would be my. 2352 01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:40,800 Speaker 5: Thing was how how many how long in the SONG 2353 01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:41,519 Speaker 5: i could go without? 2354 01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:44,600 Speaker 4: Missing how many SONGS i could? Go you feel me 2355 01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:45,760 Speaker 4: THAT i could. 2356 01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:48,639 Speaker 5: DO i could do three four songs that are three 2357 01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:49,959 Speaker 5: four minutes long without. 2358 01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:55,400 Speaker 3: Missing absolutely the. Mindset you know What i'm, saying. 2359 01:52:58,000 --> 01:52:59,760 Speaker 4: Don't count you Know i'll go. 2360 01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:02,120 Speaker 5: BY i go about how wet my shirt, was THAT 2361 01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:04,160 Speaker 5: i couldn't leave until a great shirt was wet all 2362 01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:04,559 Speaker 5: the way. 2363 01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:06,160 Speaker 1: Down to the. Bottom you feel. 2364 01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:09,080 Speaker 5: Me my high school that's why my high school, GYM 2365 01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:14,559 Speaker 5: i would my junior, YEAR i found out THAT i 2366 01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:18,360 Speaker 5: could tape the door shut in the gym right and 2367 01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:19,880 Speaker 5: it was a hollow point under the. 2368 01:53:19,880 --> 01:53:21,400 Speaker 4: DOOR i could bring a hanger and just pull the door. 2369 01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:23,800 Speaker 5: Open SO i did this for like a month and 2370 01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:26,920 Speaker 5: a half and then the janitor came around about nine 2371 01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:28,840 Speaker 5: thirty one, night see me in, there, like, boy how 2372 01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:29,320 Speaker 5: you getting? 2373 01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:32,800 Speaker 4: Here i'm not telling. You he's, like, no you gotta tell. 2374 01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:34,880 Speaker 4: Me if you tell, me then you could just come 2375 01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:36,559 Speaker 4: to all, Right i'm gonna tell. You AND i showed. 2376 01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:38,559 Speaker 5: Him he's, like, boy just come to the boiler room 2377 01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:40,240 Speaker 5: And i'll let you. In SO i would go every 2378 01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:43,519 Speaker 5: night and, shoot you, know by. Myself and the thing 2379 01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:46,080 Speaker 5: THAT i did was that you know and that you 2380 01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:51,320 Speaker 5: know Boy Willie burton will ye he does the thing 2381 01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:54,439 Speaker 5: on mental. Illness so we was At All star weekend 2382 01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:56,720 Speaker 5: last year and he was, saying how for us to 2383 01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:59,519 Speaker 5: pursue what we, do we have to be mentally ill. 2384 01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:02,400 Speaker 4: Because it ain't no. Outcome you know What i'm. 2385 01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:04,840 Speaker 5: Saying you doing this, training, training, training and it ain't 2386 01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:06,880 Speaker 5: necessarily ain't nothing on the other end of. That so 2387 01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:09,080 Speaker 5: you have to have some type Of so for, me, 2388 01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:11,400 Speaker 5: MAN i would go in to gym WHEN i was 2389 01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:13,320 Speaker 5: in high school AND i would throw the ball up 2390 01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:15,920 Speaker 5: at half court AND i would play a whole game by. 2391 01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:20,000 Speaker 5: Myself you feel me going up and. Down ONCE i laid, 2392 01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:23,200 Speaker 5: UP i slide back on, defense slide back on, defense 2393 01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:25,920 Speaker 5: sprint led, up go to the free throw, line shoot. 2394 01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:28,120 Speaker 4: Too IF i, MISSED i got a. Suicide you know 2395 01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:28,400 Speaker 4: What i'm. 2396 01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:30,760 Speaker 5: Saying so just being able to make it WHERE i 2397 01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:34,160 Speaker 5: could be in total concentration for two and a half 2398 01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:37,760 Speaker 5: hours if need, be all, Right Steve fisher taught me 2399 01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:39,120 Speaker 5: how to do it for three and a half. Hours 2400 01:54:39,160 --> 01:54:40,760 Speaker 5: and that shit came in hand you WHEN i got 2401 01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:43,440 Speaker 5: with Down. Nelson you show me that first training, camp 2402 01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:49,120 Speaker 5: because it was it was that, thick, real dear guilty pleasure. 2403 01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:53,840 Speaker 4: Ganja and butter pecan ice. 2404 01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:58,240 Speaker 3: Cream you smoked through. 2405 01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:00,840 Speaker 6: COLLEGE i READ i heard youtarted high school when you 2406 01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:02,960 Speaker 6: start smoking high, school, Okay and it was just something 2407 01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:03,720 Speaker 6: that was always for. 2408 01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:05,640 Speaker 4: You and it was and it was, crazy you know high. 2409 01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:10,040 Speaker 4: School How LIKE i, said In, chicago we see that 2410 01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:12,840 Speaker 4: brown box over, There that's what we was looking, like 2411 01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:19,160 Speaker 4: straight up man, man, ugly. Ugly SO i got The 2412 01:55:19,200 --> 01:55:21,680 Speaker 4: Long Beach state and sitting in the. 2413 01:55:21,760 --> 01:55:24,960 Speaker 5: Dorms sitting in the dorms in the big centers From Ridondo, 2414 01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:25,959 Speaker 5: Beach kevin. 2415 01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:27,160 Speaker 1: Tie big white, Boy big white. 2416 01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:29,960 Speaker 5: Boy So kevin sitting there and he, says, uh this 2417 01:55:30,040 --> 01:55:31,600 Speaker 5: is about the fourth or fifth. Day we all in 2418 01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:33,080 Speaker 5: the door and he's, like do any of you guys? 2419 01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:36,000 Speaker 4: SMOKE i was, like, brother where you? Been you know 2420 01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:41,680 Speaker 4: What i'm? Saying and he pulls out And i'm like 2421 01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:46,680 Speaker 4: that coming From, chicago we've seen that. Green that's. Homegrown, 2422 01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:48,880 Speaker 4: man what is his? Homegrown he's, like what you're talking? 2423 01:55:48,880 --> 01:55:49,120 Speaker 3: About? 2424 01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:57,040 Speaker 4: Homegrown this is this is the kind the KIND i was, 2425 01:55:57,080 --> 01:56:00,760 Speaker 4: like all, right, brother, Exactly, YEAH i got that. 2426 01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:03,840 Speaker 1: Kind BUT i got that kind smoking all around the. 2427 01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:07,920 Speaker 6: TIME i saw the on your documentary about how he 2428 01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:09,880 Speaker 6: said that the coach knew he was, High like you 2429 01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:11,880 Speaker 6: went splayed and it didn't fuck with you at, all 2430 01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:13,240 Speaker 6: but it did something to, him. 2431 01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:15,880 Speaker 4: Y'all man in his eyes will be beat, red right. 2432 01:56:16,160 --> 01:56:18,600 Speaker 5: Man but the funniest part we were in we were 2433 01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:22,280 Speaker 5: Playing marquette and the whole team he. 2434 01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:23,360 Speaker 4: Was in in the. 2435 01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:27,280 Speaker 5: Room they got the mattress, off shooting, dice smoking, weed all, that. 2436 01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:30,720 Speaker 5: Right so we go to the game and we're laying 2437 01:56:30,760 --> 01:56:32,680 Speaker 5: an egg right text. 2438 01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:36,160 Speaker 4: Cost time out and he looked. Around he's, like all 2439 01:56:36,240 --> 01:56:39,400 Speaker 4: of you, guys they're telling me my whole team is 2440 01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:42,960 Speaker 4: full a part of his, man my heart. Sunk i'm, 2441 01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:45,080 Speaker 4: like oh, Man i'm getting ready to get kicked out of, 2442 01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:48,280 Speaker 4: school you. Know but he was like he Found he's, 2443 01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:50,720 Speaker 4: like let me tell. YOU i know what it does to. 2444 01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:53,280 Speaker 4: You it puts you in a state of. Euphoria and 2445 01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:55,839 Speaker 4: you guys are walking around it think you're doing. Something 2446 01:56:55,880 --> 01:57:02,520 Speaker 4: you're doing jack. Shit all, right all, right, bro that's. 2447 01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:06,800 Speaker 6: Crazy anything you want to get, out say anything you're working. 2448 01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:11,200 Speaker 4: On, well LIKE i, said, man just, UH i appreciate this, opportunity. 2449 01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:13,800 Speaker 5: Brothers and LIKE i, said, man just, uh we're doing 2450 01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:16,920 Speaker 5: some some of the stuff that we're looking at doing 2451 01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:20,440 Speaker 5: is putting together uh training. Camp you, know a place 2452 01:57:20,480 --> 01:57:22,840 Speaker 5: that we can call home man and actually do it 2453 01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:25,560 Speaker 5: on a level where it can be you, know be 2454 01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:28,240 Speaker 5: a mentorship place as well as a student athletics. 2455 01:57:28,280 --> 01:57:34,720 Speaker 1: Place working away we can be. Helpful we are. Now, yeah, 2456 01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:37,200 Speaker 1: man we appreciate your. 2457 01:57:37,240 --> 01:57:37,520 Speaker 3: Time. 2458 01:57:37,880 --> 01:57:40,120 Speaker 6: Uh it's always a pleasure getting to sit down and 2459 01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:41,840 Speaker 6: talk to. You AND i may we wish you nothing. 2460 01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:42,880 Speaker 4: But brother it's already. 2461 01:57:43,200 --> 01:57:45,440 Speaker 1: Appreciate, yeah don't do. 2462 01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:47,360 Speaker 4: That i'm looking at, you, BOY i don't do. 2463 01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:49,720 Speaker 1: That we know that's his. Phone we keep going. Out 2464 01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:50,720 Speaker 1: it's in your possession of. 2465 01:57:51,640 --> 01:58:00,360 Speaker 2: Yours twice twice at. 2466 01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:03,520 Speaker 4: It then love me back, then should love me back. 2467 01:58:03,560 --> 01:58:05,800 Speaker 2: Then but that's the end of the episode with our, 2468 01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:09,200 Speaker 2: brother The Great Craig hodges and thanks for being. 2469 01:58:09,240 --> 01:58:12,240 Speaker 1: Here. Man you can't catch this episode on go ahead man. 2470 01:58:12,160 --> 01:58:14,200 Speaker 3: All the spokes production YouTube in The Draft Kings. 2471 01:58:14,280 --> 01:58:15,920 Speaker 1: Network, NOW i don't know that, part BUT i know this. 2472 01:58:15,960 --> 01:58:23,280 Speaker 1: Part we'll see y'all next. Time. Sorry mhm. 2473 01:58:27,160 --> 01:58:28,320 Speaker 3: Mm hmmmm. 2474 01:58:37,960 --> 01:58:38,160 Speaker 2: Mm. 2475 01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:38,480 Speaker 1: Hmmm