Speaker 1: Um, good morning, Good morning Bucks fans. How's everybody doing.
Speaker 1: It is time for Buccaneers Insider Live, presented by Miller
Speaker 1: like Casey Phillips Scott Smith here, and we have already
Speaker 1: had a little bit of time of camp. There's been
Speaker 1: things happening as press conferences. There's so much to talk about.
Speaker 1: So this is where we always love hearing from you guys.
Speaker 1: Whatever questions you want us to answer, that is what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. So if you're not already watching on
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Speaker 1: underneath our live video you can leave your comments there,
Speaker 1: so as we give people chance to do that. M Scott,
Speaker 1: I just want to hear. I know Ronald Jones spoke
Speaker 1: to the media, and I want to hear what you
Speaker 1: gathered from that, what you've learned, what you thought about that.
Speaker 1: And because of running back has definitely been one of
Speaker 1: the positions that we've gotten, uh, probably more questions than
Speaker 1: almost anything else about. So did you feel like we
Speaker 1: got some answers there? Yeah, we actually started to get
Speaker 1: some clarity the week before when m Bruce arians spoke
Speaker 1: on a Zoom call and was asked about the backfield.
Speaker 1: This was just after the signing of Leshawn McCoy. So
Speaker 1: Bruce said very clearly that Rojoe is our main guy.
Speaker 1: Those are the words he used, and they would carry
Speaker 1: the load and that everybody else in that running back
Speaker 1: room would be fighting for their roles. So we know
Speaker 1: this now. The plan is to go with Ron Jones
Speaker 1: is your main guy, which isn't surprising. He was the
Speaker 1: starter for the second half of last year and Peyton
Speaker 1: Barber has departed, so it would make sense that he's
Speaker 1: the main guy, and then uh, you figure out what else,
Speaker 1: how else to fill it all in with Keyshawn vaughan,
Speaker 1: how big his role should be, how good he proves
Speaker 1: to be as a pass catcher and a pass protector.
Speaker 1: Um Leshawn McCoy is you know, what does he do
Speaker 1: for you? Dario Goomba Wally, you know, he was basically
Speaker 1: our third down back all last year, so you know
Speaker 1: there's some confidence in him there. But Ron Jones is
Speaker 1: the guy. And then Ronald spoke, probably probably because Bruce
Speaker 1: made a point of saying that they got Ron Jones
Speaker 1: on his zoom calling. What I found interesting about it
Speaker 1: was when he was talking about the various things he's
Speaker 1: doing to be a better pass catcher, and he was
Speaker 1: actually pretty good last year. His ten yards per catch
Speaker 1: was really good and he had thirty one catches on
Speaker 1: forty targets. He only had one drop, So there just
Speaker 1: weren't a ton of targets. And maybe with Tom Brady
Speaker 1: in town and a desire to get their running backs
Speaker 1: a little bit more involved in the passing game, the
Speaker 1: big question is how much can Rojoe do? And I
Speaker 1: think I think he's pretty confident in team is pretty
Speaker 1: confident he can catch a lot of passes. He uh,
Speaker 1: he says he's working on. Some of the specific things
Speaker 1: he's working on is Tom Brady made a point of
Speaker 1: telling him to run your routes like you already have
Speaker 1: the ball in your hand, so um. And then he's
Speaker 1: still been working with Tom mcnairon um and other coaches
Speaker 1: on pass catching techniques, how to hold his hands like
Speaker 1: the diamond and all that, and then on recognizing defenses.
Speaker 1: So you know, lots of times when a running back
Speaker 1: goes out into a route, the first thing he has
Speaker 1: to figure out is is it man coverage or is
Speaker 1: its own coverage? Because if it's if it's man, usually
Speaker 1: keep running just trying to beat your man, and if
Speaker 1: its zone, you look for the space to sit down
Speaker 1: in the zone. And he wants to be able to
Speaker 1: recognize that a lot quicker so that he is immediately
Speaker 1: getting in the zones if it's if it's his zone, okay.
Speaker 1: And I also wanted to talk about the schedule for
Speaker 1: the guys that that's something we've talked about, is this
Speaker 1: training camp is a little bit different than in years
Speaker 1: past for obvious reasons. What do we know about you know,
Speaker 1: what they have been doing, and then now this next
Speaker 1: week or so, the way that things are going to
Speaker 1: change or maybe ramp up a bit. Yeah. Today, we've
Speaker 1: been calling everything since they started going on the field
Speaker 1: for strength and conditioning work, and I think August first
Speaker 1: or something like that, we've been calling everything training camp.
Speaker 1: But today was the really the first thing that looked
Speaker 1: like a real practice. I was down there this morning.
Speaker 1: It's actually still going on, um and it's it's not
Speaker 1: a real training camp practice yet. It's more like they're
Speaker 1: speeding through the phases of what you would have done
Speaker 1: in the off season with a few days each. And
Speaker 1: the NFL calls this a ramp up period and these
Speaker 1: practices are like what they would have been allowed to
Speaker 1: do in Phase two before the O T A S.
Speaker 1: The offense can run drills and throw passes and the
Speaker 1: defense can do the same, but they can't do it
Speaker 1: against each other. And that's the way the next two
Speaker 1: days are. And then on Friday and Sunday it's gonna
Speaker 1: be like O T S when you can do it
Speaker 1: against each other. But of course you can't have pads
Speaker 1: on or hit each other. Can't do that until Monday,
Speaker 1: and then you and I will be out there watching
Speaker 1: what's going on. Yes, that is a perfect way to
Speaker 1: remind everybody. Shameless plug. We will be doing our training
Speaker 1: camp live show starting on Monday. We wanted to wait
Speaker 1: until there was gonna be like hitting real couple things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, that's what we're all about. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: be out there. It will look a little different than
Speaker 1: years past because of where we are allowed to be um,
Speaker 1: but we're going to do our best to try to
Speaker 1: give you live shots of what the team is doing
Speaker 1: at training camp, and then of course we will have
Speaker 1: other content, other things we're talking about. So every day
Speaker 1: of practice, which is basically every day, but Saturday's for
Speaker 1: a bit here. It looks like we're gonna be out
Speaker 1: there at nine am to make sure you're tuning in
Speaker 1: for that each week. Um, okay, Starting with some of
Speaker 1: our fan questions, east I like this. He wanted to
Speaker 1: know who's the most intimidating defensive player east side m
Speaker 1: east side, it was the most intimate defensive player on
Speaker 1: our team. I assuming, yes, Uh, well, we got a
Speaker 1: lot of guys in our secondary who have really yoked
Speaker 1: up over the offseason. I don't know if you've seen that.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jordan White, it looks like DK Metcalf. That
Speaker 1: do is crazy. I mean he was always like that
Speaker 1: to a degree. I think people always were kind of
Speaker 1: surprised when they would see certain photos and be like wow.
Speaker 1: But now, I mean, he just turned into the Hulk.
Speaker 1: It's insane. But I don't think I can pick a
Speaker 1: defensive back for this question. I think my answer would
Speaker 1: probably have to be in Dominican su Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's fair. I think I think I'd be most scared
Speaker 1: to have to be lined up across from Vita Via
Speaker 1: because I think I would die if he came at me,
Speaker 1: destroy me. But he just he just seems like such
Speaker 1: a nice guy. All the time. That intimidating is and
Speaker 1: the first thing that comes to mind now it would
Speaker 1: be intimidated on the field. But Dominicansu is uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's a little scary, Yes, I think on the field, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. Very nice guy, but very intimidating
Speaker 1: all the same time, Daniel, last special teams has been
Speaker 1: an area of the Buccaneers. Seemed like they can improve
Speaker 1: from last year. How do role players look for Special
Speaker 1: Teams roles in training camp? I guess how? I guess
Speaker 1: he's asking, how do coaches find role players that could
Speaker 1: have Special Teams roles in training camp? And has anybody
Speaker 1: been standing out for a potential there? Well, this today
Speaker 1: was the first practice, the first time they're doing anything
Speaker 1: like that, so um, they stand out. They find guys
Speaker 1: through drills like today. As soon as I walked on
Speaker 1: the field, I saw them with a bunch of guys
Speaker 1: that are Special Teams candidates and they were, uh, basically
Speaker 1: doing a drill to see how good they would be
Speaker 1: at that great that thing that Ryan Smith does so
Speaker 1: well where he gets down on the punt and gets
Speaker 1: his feet up basically on the edge of the goal
Speaker 1: line and stops the punt at the one yard line
Speaker 1: when it's bouncing all around. They were working on that
Speaker 1: drill where the guy would run down there and the
Speaker 1: coach would be rolling the ball and they have to
Speaker 1: get around and get in the spot. So that's how
Speaker 1: you find out you do those things. And starting on Friday,
Speaker 1: I think, is when they can start doing return versus
Speaker 1: cover and there won't be any hitting, but you can
Speaker 1: still get an idea of, um, you know, how well
Speaker 1: a guy knows an assignment. Is he good at staying
Speaker 1: in the lane he's supposed to be in that sort
Speaker 1: of thing. And then when they start, when they put
Speaker 1: on the pads, then they will have specific drills where
Speaker 1: you'll have people getting their chances getting you know, rotating
Speaker 1: through reps of trying to be the gunner, which is
Speaker 1: one of the main most important jobs, and special teams
Speaker 1: on punts. The unders are the only two guys that
Speaker 1: can leave at the snap, and those are the guys
Speaker 1: you see split out wine and opposing teams usually block
Speaker 1: them with either one or two guys. We did see
Speaker 1: Ryan Smith get blocked by three guys once last year.
Speaker 1: We said a lot about the respect they were given him,
Speaker 1: but how can how well can you beat that, especially
Speaker 1: when it's too especially when you're trying to be two guys,
Speaker 1: How well can and how quickly can you beat that?
Speaker 1: Because if you can be a gunner that consistently beats
Speaker 1: your blockers quickly, that's the guy that's going to get
Speaker 1: a lot of tackles on punts and and you know,
Speaker 1: maybe cost some turnovers and so on. So the answer
Speaker 1: to the question is through drills, lots and lots of drills. Okay,
Speaker 1: yas asked, do you see us getting any more depth
Speaker 1: on the O line? And so I'll just add on
Speaker 1: to that of in addition to whether or not you
Speaker 1: think we would be adding depth, how do you view
Speaker 1: our depth that we have currently? Yeah, I have said
Speaker 1: and that I thought the depth was pretty good at
Speaker 1: at tackle. Um that's even true. It's a little less
Speaker 1: true because Brad Seaton exercised his option to opt opt
Speaker 1: out this year. So that's one tackle down that so
Speaker 1: far hasn't been replaced. UM, but you still have a
Speaker 1: four there of presumably Donovan Smith and Tristan Worth starting
Speaker 1: backed up by Joe Hay who started a bunch of
Speaker 1: games in Indianapolis. And it's very versatile, can play a
Speaker 1: lot of spots on the line, and also Josh Wells,
Speaker 1: who started a couple of games for US last year.
Speaker 1: So it's good to have that experienced depth there. And
Speaker 1: you've got a couple of young guys too, But that's
Speaker 1: four guys I think you can feel pretty good about.
Speaker 1: The bigger question is, UM is on the interior line
Speaker 1: where you love, you're starting three, but there's not a
Speaker 1: lot of experienced depth behind that, And I think they're
Speaker 1: counting on some guys that they've liked, like Zach Bailey
Speaker 1: as an example, or a rookie they brought on named
Speaker 1: John Mulchum or Zach Shackleford of Texas. I think they
Speaker 1: like these guys, but it's not really not realistic in
Speaker 1: the moment to say that's proven depth. So UM, I
Speaker 1: don't know if we need more depth yet on the
Speaker 1: interior line because I don't know how good those guys
Speaker 1: are gonna be. But on paper, that would look to
Speaker 1: be where you might want to find some And remember this,
Speaker 1: we don't necessarily even if the Bucks don't add anybody
Speaker 1: to the roster right now, you're gonna get to the point, uh,
Speaker 1: whenever the final cutdown date is and I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's different, dude to everything's going on, but everybody's
Speaker 1: cutting players. And that's what they call that eighth round
Speaker 1: of the draft. Well they that's what they call something
Speaker 1: like that. You know, it's another opportunity to pick up
Speaker 1: players of a veteran you like better than what you
Speaker 1: got is released and there's a little generally a little
Speaker 1: bit of turning at the bottom of the roster around
Speaker 1: that time. Yeah, this could be one of those areas
Speaker 1: where you see how they were planning pre COVID and
Speaker 1: the way that COVID this offseason may affect how this
Speaker 1: works is they did have all these young, unproven guys,
Speaker 1: guys like you mentioned Zach Shackelford and um, you know
Speaker 1: John Mulchen that they thought, oh well, we'll get a
Speaker 1: lot of chances to see these guys and also a
Speaker 1: lot of chances for them to get reps to you know,
Speaker 1: become that guy. And now you know where you felt
Speaker 1: like you had all this potential young depth, you just
Speaker 1: don't know yet you may still have it. They may
Speaker 1: still pan out, Um, but maybe you would have tried
Speaker 1: to go for potentially more proven options if you've known
Speaker 1: that none of these young guys would get it. So
Speaker 1: it's sort of an interesting way of like how you
Speaker 1: thought about building your team and the way that it
Speaker 1: could end up coming. Yeah, there's gonna be some difficulties,
Speaker 1: and um, I guess the only thing you can say
Speaker 1: is that it's the same across the board for every team.
Speaker 1: So the Bucks aren't any worse off than anybody else.
Speaker 1: And I was just thinking about what I said about
Speaker 1: when the rosters are all cut down and the veterans
Speaker 1: get picked up from elsewhere. Actually it may be a
Speaker 1: little bit harder to do that this year too, because
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a sixteen man practice squad, and six
Speaker 1: of those sixteen spots can be used on players with
Speaker 1: any amount of experience. Usually, practice squad guys have to
Speaker 1: have a fewer than two years of a crude NFL
Speaker 1: free agency credit. You have two, and then you have
Speaker 1: two exception spots where they can have a few more.
Speaker 1: Now you can you put six guys any experience on there,
Speaker 1: so it'll be easier for guys for teams to keep
Speaker 1: their veteran depth. That's sixty nine guys out of eighty
Speaker 1: that you're taking a camp that you can keep, so
Speaker 1: there will be fewer guys out there on the wire
Speaker 1: now that I think about it. Yeah, that's an interesting point.
Speaker 1: Jermaine asked, with all these new veterans, who do you
Speaker 1: think will be our captains this year? I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: on the limb and think Tom Brady will be a captain?
Speaker 1: Um in what a hot take? Allie Mark Pett was
Speaker 1: a captain last year, wasn't he? I believe so, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could see that staying the same. I think he's
Speaker 1: a respective guy that people listened to. Um did he
Speaker 1: say just offensive captains are all? I think he said
Speaker 1: the whole team? But yeah, has been kept for some time.
Speaker 1: I don't know why that would change. Um, you know
Speaker 1: that when you talk about new guys, we're really there
Speaker 1: talking about a huge number of new guys because a
Speaker 1: lot of the players that we signed were re signing.
Speaker 1: So Tom Brady is an obvious one. Is is Gronca captain?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that remains to be seen.
Speaker 1: And then otherwise we're just really talking about Joe hag
Speaker 1: And I'm forgetting two guys because there's only like five
Speaker 1: of them, Elliot Fry a kicker and Lashawn McCoy. So
Speaker 1: I think the only guy that's obviously a captain out
Speaker 1: of the new guys is Tom Brady. Otherwise, I think
Speaker 1: you see a lot of repeats. Okay. Daniel asked what
Speaker 1: have you seen from Antoine Winfield Jr? Thus far? And
Speaker 1: maybe a better question would be when will we potentially
Speaker 1: be able to see more from him and know more
Speaker 1: based on how practices go. I've seen him um doing
Speaker 1: strength and conditioning drills, so and then today I think
Speaker 1: I saw him feeling some punts, which coaches said they
Speaker 1: were going to give him an opportunity to do. So
Speaker 1: there's something for you. There's something, yeah, But otherwise I
Speaker 1: haven't seen him run a drill yet. I mean before
Speaker 1: they started doing any defensive drills. I came in to
Speaker 1: do this with you, Casey, because it's more important than
Speaker 1: that obviously. And so let's ask the question again in
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of calling to our writing or
Speaker 1: question into our training camp live next week sometime and
Speaker 1: by then maybe we'll sing something. We'll have better answers
Speaker 1: for you there. Um, this is interesting. A different Daniel
Speaker 1: asked us, who do you think is our number one receiver?
Speaker 1: Mike or Chris that's such a hard question to answer
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna take a cop I'm gonna cop out
Speaker 1: a little bit here and say I don't think it
Speaker 1: really matters. I mean, I think there're one A and
Speaker 1: one B. If you looked at it went last year. Basically,
Speaker 1: Mike has been the man for six years, and then Chris,
Speaker 1: who had already taken a big step forward in his
Speaker 1: second year but was still clearly the number two guy.
Speaker 1: In two thousand eighteen, basically, Chris just got to the
Speaker 1: point where he was just as good and just as
Speaker 1: important as Mike. So you had one A and one B.
Speaker 1: And if you look at it, Chris was the number
Speaker 1: two and Mike was number four in the NFL and
Speaker 1: yards per game, Um, there were times last year where
Speaker 1: Mike was had the most yards and then Chris, and
Speaker 1: then Mike passed me in and Chris passed him again.
Speaker 1: By the end of the year, Chris had more, but
Speaker 1: he also had one more game. Um, I don't think
Speaker 1: there's a one there. I really don't. I called that
Speaker 1: a cop out if you want, but I just think
Speaker 1: it's one A and one B. And you know, I
Speaker 1: think we've joked about the game. I think he was
Speaker 1: in Detroit where we went into the game, or maybe
Speaker 1: it was Tennessee. I can it was at Detroit where
Speaker 1: or Atlanta maybe we went into the game. And um,
Speaker 1: Mike was close to get into a thousand and it
Speaker 1: would have been his six thousand yards season to start
Speaker 1: his career, which only Grandy Moss had done before, and
Speaker 1: he was like eleven yards away from getting it, and
Speaker 1: Chris was like a hundred fifty yards away. But in
Speaker 1: that game, Chris got there first because he had a
Speaker 1: bunch of huge plays right off the bat, and then
Speaker 1: Mike got there too. So that was a game where
Speaker 1: where Chris had a huge game. But there were other
Speaker 1: games were Mike had a huge game and then every
Speaker 1: now and then, like against the Rams, they both had
Speaker 1: huge games and the Bucks scored fifty five points. So
Speaker 1: you know, again one A and one B in my mind,
Speaker 1: again a great problem to have. Richard asked, who do
Speaker 1: you think replaces m J. Stewart. Well, by the end
Speaker 1: of last year, m J. Stewart wasn't wasn't It was
Speaker 1: basically a healthy scratch. So there isn't a role in
Speaker 1: the defense that needs to be replaced. Um, you had
Speaker 1: Carlton Davis starting on one side, and coach Areas recently
Speaker 1: claimed he thought Carlton Davis was a top ten corner
Speaker 1: in the league, which is high praise. Um, you had
Speaker 1: Sean Murphy Bunny starting on the outside and then moving
Speaker 1: into the slot in the nickel, which is actually what
Speaker 1: you played the most. So Jamal Dean was essentially an
Speaker 1: outside starter. So you've got all that back. Um, you
Speaker 1: also have Ryan Smith and Massey Wilkins, and I think
Speaker 1: they like that kid from Oklahoma, Parnell Motley. So um,
Speaker 1: replacing m J as a corner on the roster would
Speaker 1: just come from one of those guys. Uh, there isn't
Speaker 1: really a role that has to be replaced at this moment. Okay,
Speaker 1: and we'll close it this one. Chris asked, how do
Speaker 1: they plan to use all three tight ends? Do you
Speaker 1: think we will see three tight end sets? That's a
Speaker 1: good question, and coach Arias did say at one point
Speaker 1: we will use three tight ensets, but I don't really
Speaker 1: think you're going to see that a lot as part
Speaker 1: of your base offense. Three tighten sets are usually short yardage, um,
Speaker 1: you know, goal line stuff, and sometimes the third tight
Speaker 1: end isn't even a tight end. It's an offensive linement, So, um, you,
Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna see a ton of that.
Speaker 1: We we had I think I counted up. I think
Speaker 1: we had fifty four or fifty nine snaps all of
Speaker 1: last year with three tight ends on the field. So
Speaker 1: it's just not something to use a lot. What I
Speaker 1: do think you'll see a lot of, and more than
Speaker 1: last year, is two tight ensets or what they call
Speaker 1: twelve personnel, And um, we use that twenty percent of
Speaker 1: the time last year, which actually was a little higher
Speaker 1: than the league average, so they already reutilizing that, but
Speaker 1: coaches said, we'll probably see that a little bit more.
Speaker 1: So maybe if it was I would think it was
Speaker 1: about fifty nine percent. At the time they were in
Speaker 1: eleven personnel, which is three receivers and twenty percent of
Speaker 1: the time they were in twelve. You could see maybe
Speaker 1: the eleven come down a little bit into the low
Speaker 1: and the twelve personnel with two tight ends come to
Speaker 1: mid to high, and then you just have different packages.
Speaker 1: Gronk with O J, Gronk with CAM, o J with CAM,
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So yeah, you'll see some three
Speaker 1: tight end, but I'd be surprised it's a big part
Speaker 1: of the offense. Yeah, that's a great point. Okay, well
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us on this edition of
Speaker 1: Buccaneers and Satura Live presented by Miller White. And the
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Speaker 1: Live starts Monday nine am and it's gonna be every
Speaker 1: day at nine am that they have practice, which is
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