WEBVTT - Andrew’s Testimony Finale | MiniPod

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<v Speaker 1>Native lampod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with

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<v Speaker 1>Reason Choice Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody, this is Andrew Gillham, and first I want to

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<v Speaker 2>give every one of you who took the time to

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<v Speaker 2>listen to parts one and two of my testimony a

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<v Speaker 2>big thank you for giving my voice an ear. This

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<v Speaker 2>testimony is about basically what my life was and has

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<v Speaker 2>been since the conclusion of the gubernatorial election in two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and eighteen, and a roller coaster would be one

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<v Speaker 2>way to describe things. Everything from the aftermath of of course,

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<v Speaker 2>the race and what followed more immediately, the Miami incident

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<v Speaker 2>that captured everybody's attention, imagination and every gossiper east west,

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<v Speaker 2>north south, the indictment of myself and a colleague, and

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<v Speaker 2>the trial and then the conclusion of that trial. The

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<v Speaker 2>first one. If you haven't heard it or would like

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<v Speaker 2>to go back and refresh your memory, you'll find it

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of our regular weekly cast. The episode

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<v Speaker 2>is titled Miami a No Sanctuary City. Part two will

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<v Speaker 2>be at the end of the episode titled Faded None

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<v Speaker 2>of These Candidates, and obviously part three right here this

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<v Speaker 2>mini pod, I hope you learn you get to listen

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<v Speaker 2>and that it piques your interests in getting more deeply

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<v Speaker 2>involved in criminal justice reform. We walk into the courtroom.

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<v Speaker 2>When the doors come open, I hear an audible gasp

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<v Speaker 2>in the room and I look around because I'm surveying

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<v Speaker 2>one to make sure my family did not show up

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<v Speaker 2>and they had snuck in there. But as I surveyed

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<v Speaker 2>the room, there's journalists everywhere, journalists in the jury box

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<v Speaker 2>and the stand, their people and whatnot. It is a

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<v Speaker 2>real spectacle. But there the gas was that they noticed

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<v Speaker 2>as I walked in that I was sort of hobbling

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<v Speaker 2>in and I think they were seeing that I was

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<v Speaker 2>chained in this in this way, and my pastor, I

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<v Speaker 2>see him sort of stand up and look over and

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<v Speaker 2>I see him starting to say some words audibly, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure what he's saying, but I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 2>he was complaining about, well, why is he this way?

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<v Speaker 2>And the only thought I had as I walked was,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you Jesus. There are no cameras. No one will

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<v Speaker 2>ever see me this way. They can describe it, but

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<v Speaker 2>my kids won't ever see these chains. That was the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest source of embarrassment for me, because I remember back

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<v Speaker 2>to that story of me telling you all that I

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<v Speaker 2>never wanted to make my mom cry for me getting

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<v Speaker 2>in trouble. That's all I could think of was her

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<v Speaker 2>seeing me. So they weren't there. And we go through

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<v Speaker 2>the proceedings and the judge says, this is the United

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<v Speaker 2>States of America versus Andrew Gill never an institution that

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<v Speaker 2>I believed in, like I believed in nothing else. A

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<v Speaker 2>government that I was in service to for all of

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<v Speaker 2>my life was now against me, and I didn't understand

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<v Speaker 2>it for the life of me. And I read, I

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<v Speaker 2>heard they read the indictment out loud. I got a

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<v Speaker 2>copy of it, and I couldn't read it until I

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<v Speaker 2>got home. And as I read it, I didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>see myself reflected in it. I didn't know what this

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<v Speaker 2>garbage was that they decided to call charge. This was

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<v Speaker 2>made up mess out of whole cloth. Fast forward. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad to be validated by that fact, by the decision

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<v Speaker 2>of the jury and everything that they have said since

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<v Speaker 2>the case. But I will tell you, I hear those

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<v Speaker 2>words will humble you to your knees. But to hear

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<v Speaker 2>them as a working agent for them, A believer, tried

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<v Speaker 2>and true, a constitutionalist, who made those words of the

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<v Speaker 2>Declaration of Independence in every article of that Constitution at

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<v Speaker 2>its founding, applied to me, even though it wasn't written

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<v Speaker 2>to include me. But I had always stood on the

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<v Speaker 2>side of the promise of who we are and the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that we should always be in the pursuit of

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<v Speaker 2>the great for our country. The next several months were

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<v Speaker 2>just pure hell, y'all, you know it. We all had

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<v Speaker 2>check ins at different times. I mean, I was pretty

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<v Speaker 2>I had chosen to focus exclusively on preparing myself for

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<v Speaker 2>this trial upcoming, and I mean, I'm working all, I

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<v Speaker 2>stopped sleeping, stopping. I can't go through every day and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>But but to sit there and to hear these FBI agents,

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<v Speaker 2>the undercover ones, particularly who I had gotten to know him,

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<v Speaker 2>befriend there was some there was something valuable to me.

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<v Speaker 2>And watching them on the standards they were questioned and

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<v Speaker 2>they say, yeah, well we you know, for two years

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<v Speaker 2>we came, he tried to get to know them. Our

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<v Speaker 2>goal was to to to get close to him such

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<v Speaker 2>that he would feel comfortable with us, and that when

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<v Speaker 2>we you know, offered you know, the whatever, we know

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<v Speaker 2>that he was comfortable enough that if his intention was

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<v Speaker 2>to take it, he'd take it da And they then

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<v Speaker 2>start to describe me, and they say, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>tried to get him to go to Vegas, but he

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<v Speaker 2>said he couldn't. And then we tried to take him,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, skiing and da da da, but he said no.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we said we would be here and he

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<v Speaker 2>said no. And then you know, we started coming more

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<v Speaker 2>to Tallahassee and just doing the things he was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>So we joined the gym and we worked out with him,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we did the I I had no reason

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<v Speaker 2>not to believe that these guys weren't my friends. They

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<v Speaker 2>kept saying they have interest in development of South Side,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the black side of town. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you bringing money to invest in south Side, where

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<v Speaker 2>the place you want to be, I'm the mayor of

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<v Speaker 2>this city. May I talk to you about that? And

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm in full pitch bow and there over the

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<v Speaker 2>course of our relationship, our friendship and what clearly was

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<v Speaker 2>not a friendship. But then they start to stay tell

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<v Speaker 2>the jury and the lawyers in response to the questions.

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<v Speaker 2>We had to get to a place where we stopped

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<v Speaker 2>trying to bring him places and then just figure out

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<v Speaker 2>where he's going to be and we'd be there too,

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<v Speaker 2>So if he's on a work trip to New York

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<v Speaker 2>or to DC, they'd have a reason to be there.

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<v Speaker 2>And they use someone who was very close to me

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<v Speaker 2>to learn my schedules and my goings. And so this

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<v Speaker 2>big old Hamilton trip that everybody hears about, no one

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<v Speaker 2>knows that they didn't fly me to New York. They

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do it. I was going to be in New

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<v Speaker 2>York for work. They just happened to want to hang

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<v Speaker 2>out since we were all going to be there at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time. They manufactured a whole situation because they

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<v Speaker 2>needed to be around me. And then they talked about

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<v Speaker 2>the arc of mimitting, which is, we start to get

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<v Speaker 2>to know this guy well enough, so we start to

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<v Speaker 2>mimic the things that he's interested in. We reflect to

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<v Speaker 2>him that we're interested in these things. So all this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing. I needed to hear all of this, y'all,

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<v Speaker 2>because I needed to know that I wasn't crazy, that

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't walk into a bunch of terrible situations. These

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<v Speaker 2>then gave me a real life example of what it

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<v Speaker 2>felt like to be hunted. Unfortunately for them, my lawyer

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<v Speaker 2>was able to get them to say. And after all,

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<v Speaker 2>you did. You read his emails, You went through his

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<v Speaker 2>text messages, his voicemails, that this, you all were on

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<v Speaker 2>him for eight years. Did Andrew Gillum perform as you

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<v Speaker 2>would have expected an innocent elected official to have responded? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Did he do everything that you would want a good

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<v Speaker 2>public official to do by resisting. Did he ever take

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<v Speaker 2>anything from you? No? Did he ever ask you? No.

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<v Speaker 2>What they're very clear about is they expect me to

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<v Speaker 2>do something for them in exchange for them giving me

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<v Speaker 2>a campaign contribution. I rejected. I cut contact and have

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<v Speaker 2>no other conversation with those fellas again until the government

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<v Speaker 2>forces me to have a conversation. Through this again in

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<v Speaker 2>the spirit of being hunted, I come to realize that

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<v Speaker 2>now they're investigating my campaign for governor because a black

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<v Speaker 2>man can't raise fifty plus million and be not on

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<v Speaker 2>the take. And they come up with a whole story

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<v Speaker 2>around me extorting and setting up ways to pay myself

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<v Speaker 2>for this and the other unbelievable stuff. It was the

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<v Speaker 2>most disastrous and disgusting set of lies I'd ever have

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<v Speaker 2>to listen to, y'all. But the worst of the lies

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<v Speaker 2>that I had to listen to. Were the FBI investigators

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<v Speaker 2>who sat there put my children's name of their school

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<v Speaker 2>where they attended, to put their social Security numbers projected

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<v Speaker 2>in a courtroom without the care to take them out,

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<v Speaker 2>to black them out, to put my wife's most intimate

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<v Speaker 2>whatever in communications and exchanges and everything else up there,

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<v Speaker 2>with no care for us as humans as people, to

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<v Speaker 2>say that I was living beyond my means because I

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<v Speaker 2>was sending three kids to private school while I was

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<v Speaker 2>a public official. By the way, a total and complete lie.

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<v Speaker 2>My children were all of daycare age during this period,

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<v Speaker 2>and the money that we were paying was their school tuition.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm sending my kids to private school, and you

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<v Speaker 2>told this jury that I was living beyond my means

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<v Speaker 2>because I was paying a church, a church dues, some

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<v Speaker 2>membership dues to a church. Not one piece of evidence

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<v Speaker 2>did they enter into this trial to support their claim.

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<v Speaker 2>It was completely and wholly the story that they made

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<v Speaker 2>up and told themselves, without the ability to prove it

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<v Speaker 2>before a court of law. But they could disparage me,

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<v Speaker 2>they could embarrass us, they could throw us out there

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<v Speaker 2>like that. We didn't We didn't even matter as humans.

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<v Speaker 2>But nobody has ever written about. What was the genesis

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<v Speaker 2>of this FBI investigation? When did you all decide to

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<v Speaker 2>send FBI undercover agents to get on Gillam? What actions

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<v Speaker 2>had he had taken prior to this that would suggest

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<v Speaker 2>that he would be succeptible to a bribery charge? Or

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<v Speaker 2>what's foundationally there that got y'all here? No one has

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<v Speaker 2>written this story about the FBI agent in charge of

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<v Speaker 2>this investigation. Where did he work before he came to

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<v Speaker 2>the FBI? Would it surprise anybody to learn that he

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<v Speaker 2>worked for the father of one of my opponents, a

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<v Speaker 2>former United States Senator who was the chairman of the

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<v Speaker 2>Intelligence Committee of the United States Government, the committee that

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<v Speaker 2>is responsible for the most clandestine operations of this country,

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<v Speaker 2>but also to include the FBI. If the person worked

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<v Speaker 2>for the father of someone who I was running against

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<v Speaker 2>for governor, this story has not been written. Did anybody

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<v Speaker 2>get a tip that Andrew had taken a bride from

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<v Speaker 2>anybody in tel hassee before? Had never even been thought

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<v Speaker 2>to have done so, None of that existed. But yet

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty sixteen I became the guy of interest. One woman,

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<v Speaker 2>white older woman who owns a salon married to a

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<v Speaker 2>white male attorney who lives in a very conservative county,

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<v Speaker 2>who we would later learn had on her social media

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<v Speaker 2>prior to her being selected on the jury. Trump is

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<v Speaker 2>still my president. That she got into the jury box

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<v Speaker 2>immediately pushed back from the table. Jury room, pushed back

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<v Speaker 2>from the table. I don't have anything to deliberate. He's

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<v Speaker 2>been guilty before, he's guilty now and all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And thankfully one of the jurors was able to very

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<v Speaker 2>skillfully bring her around to at least voting on one

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<v Speaker 2>lying to the FBI, and they were able to get

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<v Speaker 2>unanimous agreement after many days of work on that one

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<v Speaker 2>juror to try to get her to see the reason here,

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<v Speaker 2>he says, where's the What did he do? What did?

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<v Speaker 2>He'd say, tell me the lie? Because because everything we've

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<v Speaker 2>looked at is the truth. Can you tell me where

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<v Speaker 2>the lie is? She can't tell a lie because a

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<v Speaker 2>lie didn't exist. I never lied to the FBI, despite

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<v Speaker 2>of their continuous targeting and lying to me. So they

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<v Speaker 2>got her on that one, but she would not make

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<v Speaker 2>any other decisions on any other counts because I was

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<v Speaker 2>already guilty. Well, they worked for a week in that room,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was about to lose every every hope I

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<v Speaker 2>had because it had been such a rough time, but

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<v Speaker 2>I knew somebody was back there fighting for right. And

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<v Speaker 2>prior to going in, my attorneys and myself and RJ

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<v Speaker 2>and I invited my pastor in, you know, and they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to prepare me. They wanted to talk to me

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<v Speaker 2>my decorum and how I should what was going on happen.

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<v Speaker 2>When I went in, My big question was are they

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<v Speaker 2>going to take me today or will I see my kids?

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, well, they're gonna take you if you

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<v Speaker 2>found guilty on any account. And he says, so, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to prepare you because we think that that that's

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<v Speaker 2>how it may go. And I want you to be ready,

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<v Speaker 2>and RJ, I want you to be ready. And i

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<v Speaker 2>J looked at him and she said, I think you're wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's not guilty on all of them, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think that that's what was taking so long.

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<v Speaker 2>And I looked at this woman like, all right, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want you to be deluded, because that will hurt

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<v Speaker 2>a lot if if we leave this room and you're

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<v Speaker 2>not ready for that possibility. I don't want that. So

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<v Speaker 2>I had told myself to gird up and just be

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<v Speaker 2>ready for that verdict, so I don't have a reaction.

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<v Speaker 2>And just as we are finishing up the prayer, right,

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<v Speaker 2>we believe in God, and we submit this to you

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<v Speaker 2>and we know you got it. I want to admit

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<v Speaker 2>in that prayer that I was not all the way

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<v Speaker 2>honest because I wasn't convinced and I hadn't left it

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<v Speaker 2>in his hands until RJ grabbed my hand and held

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<v Speaker 2>it in clutch. As we exited our conference room, and

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<v Speaker 2>I got shields over my body and something came into

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<v Speaker 2>my spirit that said, I don't know how God's going

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<v Speaker 2>to do it, but he is going to work this out.

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<v Speaker 2>And I took my seat and when the judge comes

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<v Speaker 2>in and he asked them if they had reached the verdict,

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<v Speaker 2>and they say yes on one and not on any

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<v Speaker 2>of the others, because we got these hold this hold

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<v Speaker 2>out over here. I stand. This is the piece I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen on television a thousand times, so I know that

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<v Speaker 2>everybody stands up. Asked the jury on the on the verdict,

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<v Speaker 2>which what had they decided? And I stood and I

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<v Speaker 2>faced the jury and the four persons said, we've unanimously

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<v Speaker 2>agreed that he is not guilty on count one line

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<v Speaker 2>to the government. This is the one my lawyer told

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<v Speaker 2>me to be prepared for. And I couldn't respond emotionally

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<v Speaker 2>because I wasn't sure exactly what was supposed to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But I heard my wife and my aunt's gasp and

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<v Speaker 2>there thank you Jesus and their praise, and it just

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<v Speaker 2>came unknone for me because I I was overwhelmed. But

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<v Speaker 2>I have to tell y'all, after that day, I started

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<v Speaker 2>to decline into this space where anger took over every

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<v Speaker 2>part of me. I was so mad. I couldn't take

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<v Speaker 2>calls of congratulations from all the places they were coming

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<v Speaker 2>from because I didn't want to answer the phone and

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<v Speaker 2>sound ungrateful for what God had given me. After the indictment,

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<v Speaker 2>my local bank that I banked with since I was

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three, who underwroot the costs of my home I

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<v Speaker 2>got my first home loan through, sent me a letter

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<v Speaker 2>after I was indicted, telling me that after a random

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<v Speaker 2>review of conditions of our membership, we've decided you don't

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<v Speaker 2>meet them, and you've got thirty days to close all

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<v Speaker 2>your accounts. People who I have been therefore without ever

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<v Speaker 2>being asked, who disappeared I'm thankful for God helping to

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<v Speaker 2>remove those things from my life that I could not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thankful for the solid rocks of friends who are

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<v Speaker 2>not fair weather but all weather friends. I'm thankful to

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<v Speaker 2>a loving family who reminded me every single day that

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<v Speaker 2>they loved me and that this was all part of

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<v Speaker 2>God's plan. I know it is in purpose to something greater.

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<v Speaker 2>The enemy never attacks a thing that isn't a threat,

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<v Speaker 2>and when it does attack a threat, it attacks it

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<v Speaker 2>in proportionality. And if you had to produce a document

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<v Speaker 2>that said the United States of America via Andrew Gillum

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<v Speaker 2>and his co defendant, then I must be some hell

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<v Speaker 2>of a threat that through the full force of the government,

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<v Speaker 2>their lies, their disgusting lies, the ruin and wreckage that

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<v Speaker 2>they left behind, and didn't so much as apologize for

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<v Speaker 2>you try to kill me. Put me in the ground

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<v Speaker 2>you missed. And I hope that part of the plan

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<v Speaker 2>that God has from my life is the leveling of

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<v Speaker 2>governmental institutions that abuse their power to go after who

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<v Speaker 2>they have determined to be their enemies. There is real

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<v Speaker 2>racism in the system, y'all. There's real stuff that has

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<v Speaker 2>to be dismantled. About this thing, and I can't wait

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<v Speaker 2>to be about that work. Even more. If you are

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<v Speaker 2>a federal prosecutor and you go to a grand jury

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<v Speaker 2>and you lie to them to get an indictment, you

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<v Speaker 2>should be held accountable for having lied. If you're the

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<v Speaker 2>federal government and you bring suit on an individual and

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<v Speaker 2>you lose, you should have to pay the million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>that I still owe in attorney's fees. You do it

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<v Speaker 2>in civil cases. If someone brings a frivolous lawsuit, they

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<v Speaker 2>get their money not here, so you leave me in wreckage,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you don't have the decency to apologize. The

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<v Speaker 2>system has got to be leveled and changed because while

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<v Speaker 2>I have a microphone and I can talk about what

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<v Speaker 2>my experience is, there are people who are voiceless and

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<v Speaker 2>nameless we can't call them today, who have seen far worse.

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<v Speaker 2>They're sitting in prisons not because they're guilty, but because

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<v Speaker 2>they couldn't afford a defense. They're not there under indictment

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<v Speaker 2>because they did something wrong, but because somebody had determined

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<v Speaker 2>that they needed to be taken off the playing field.

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<v Speaker 2>If a government can do that to you, and we

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<v Speaker 2>know it can, then we got to be courageous enough

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<v Speaker 2>to stand right back up against them and level the

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<v Speaker 2>systems that were designed to do exactly what they do.

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<v Speaker 2>First and foremost, I want to live for my wife

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<v Speaker 2>and for my children. But if God puts breath in

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<v Speaker 2>my body, I'm committed to doing his work his way

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<v Speaker 2>for the rest of my life because I believe that

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<v Speaker 2>I was put on this earth for a reason, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know all the reasons yet, but it certainly

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't to leave me desolate, poor, in despair and locked

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<v Speaker 2>up somewhere. He didn't do this for that, I know

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<v Speaker 2>that much. So I believe what He says about me

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<v Speaker 2>and not what they say about me. Thank y'all.

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