1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back to is this a great game or what? 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: And our guest this week is my dear friend Kevin Brown, 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: a teammate of mine occasionally at ESPN, and of course 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: the play by play voice of the Baltimore Orioles. 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: Kevin, this is Jeff Kirchen. 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 3: Say hello, Hey, Jeff. Great to meet. 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 4: You, Kevin. We have so many things in common. And 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 4: my dad will do a game with you in spring 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 4: training or run into you at Cambin Yards and be 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 4: like Kevin Brown, this he's so great, he's so smart. 11 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 4: I said, I've known this for years. The year I 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 4: graduated high school, you graduated from Syracuse University, and when 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 4: I got into the system there, into the new House school. 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 4: In the radio stations, we're all talking about this great 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 4: Kevin Brown, and Kevin your career. It could not have 16 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 4: happened to a greater guy, a more talented guy. And 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 4: as a fellow Syracuse grad, I'm out to call myself 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 4: a Syracuse Orange because people like yourself came before us 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 4: and led the way, just cleared the paths for US 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 4: broadcasters to continue doing great things. So congratulations, I'm where 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: you are, just four years older than me, crushing it 22 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 4: with the Orioles, it's so cool. 23 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: Well, thank you guys, and I'm sorry that's all the 24 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: time we had. But what a pleasure was being on 25 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: the final episode of Is this a great game? 26 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 4: Or what? 27 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 3: And I think we now know the answer is or what? 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: Good night everybody? 29 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: All right? So Kevin tell jeff wait. 30 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: That's not it. 31 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: That's not it. 32 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: Now we're just gonna say. 33 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 5: Some nice things about me and then gay So so 34 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 5: Kevin two years ago, jeff two years ago, Kevin and 35 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 5: I are doing a game at Arizona and it comes 36 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 5: up that he has a daughter. 37 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: So Kevin explain to Jeffrey and to our listeners the 38 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: name of your daughter and how it connects to the 39 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: guy who was sitting right next to you in the 40 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: broadcast booth. 41 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: Well, my daughter's name is Emma, middle name after my 42 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: mother in law's Kathleen. So I have an Emma Kathleen. 43 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 3: I don't think Emma in itself is that special. That's 44 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: probably the most or the second most popular girl's name 45 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: in the country right now. I think Emma and Olivia 46 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 3: are in like a really tight one two race, like 47 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: the McGuire Sosa of naming baby girls. But the middle 48 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: name part of it. We share that, right, you have 49 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 3: an Emma Kathleen too. 50 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: I've been told, I mean, what are the chances, seriously 51 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: that two guys who are this far apart in age 52 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: are doing a baseball game from Arizona. And I just 53 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: casually asked, Kevin, what's what's your daughter's name? He says Emma, 54 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: and I said, well, that's my granddaughter's name, my first granddaughter. 55 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: I'll tell you this, if if her last name was Brown, 56 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 3: it would have been a whole lot weirder. 57 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 4: So and the Kathleen for Emma Kathleen Keenahan comes from 58 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 4: the maternal grandmother, just like for your Emma Kathleen. 59 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: Oh that's interesting, yeah, yeah, Oh so there's another. 60 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 4: Time there it is my mom's name is Kathleen. There 61 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 4: we go, all right, So Kevin helped me with this. 62 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 4: I forgot what you did. 63 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: But after that game, you flew somewhere to go to 64 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: the concert. 65 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 2: Do you remember, Because Kevin is Jeff. 66 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: Kevin is calling a game from Arizona spring training game 67 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: with me, and he's making flights like during the in 68 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: between innings. 69 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 2: It was unbelievable. I don't know how he did. 70 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 3: I think it was before the game. Let's be real 71 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: about this. I was hyper focused on the best version 72 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: of Tim Kerston I could get out about Spring training broadcast. 73 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: Actually it might have been during the game, because I 74 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: don't know if you remember the the Internet was unusable 75 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: for most of that day. So now we had two 76 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: spring games together. I think they were both Dodgers Padres games, 77 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: but from the different spring training complexes. And I'm a 78 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: huge fan of the band You Two, and You Two 79 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: was opening Sphere and Las Vegas. And you know, I'm 80 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: pretentious because I'm saying Sphere and not the Sphere. And 81 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: I really wanted to see the show. I've seen You 82 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: Too five times and Sphere is such an incredible, mind 83 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: blowing concept. I really wanted to go. But this was February. 84 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, maybe because the Yeah, because the Dodgers 85 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 3: and Padres started early because they played overseas to begin 86 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 3: the year. So this was maybe quick math here like 87 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 3: four months after I had my first child. And I'm 88 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 3: a pretty busy guy. I do Orioles, baseball, college basketball, 89 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 3: college softball. I don't have a lot of time to 90 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 3: just go frolic off to Vegas for a show. Sorry, honey, 91 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 3: I'm working one hundred and seventy events a year, one 92 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty. But I'm just gonna go to Vegas 93 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: for the night. As it so happened, though, we had 94 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 3: a noon Mountain Time game in Phoenix, I think it 95 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: was Noone Mountain and U two was playing Sphere at 96 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: eight Pacific, and the next day I would have been 97 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: flying to Memphis. I had a basketball game in Memphis, 98 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 3: I think on Sunday, and the game was on a Friday, 99 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: so it wouldn't have made sense to go home and 100 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: then turn around and go back to Memphis. So I 101 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 3: was just going to be on the road anyway. And 102 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 3: it was the fourth to last date of the U 103 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: two residency, so we did the spring training game. I 104 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: drove to the airport, hopped on a flight, went to 105 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 3: a hotel, showered, changed, took an Uber fifteen minutes later 106 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 3: to the venue, and had one of the most mind 107 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 3: blowing concert nights of my life. Slept four hours, and 108 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: then got on a six am flight and landed on Memphis, 109 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 3: and then did a college basketball game the day after that. 110 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 4: Kevin, that's what we have to do sometimes when you 111 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 4: have one hundred and eighty events a year. I saw 112 00:05:55,160 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 4: Kenny Chesney at Sphere this summer, and I say, once again, Fear, 113 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 4: not the Fear, because when we interviewed Kenny, I'm a 114 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 4: country music morning show host in Philadelphia and our show 115 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 4: also syndicated over to Boston and Las Vegas. Actually, and 116 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 4: when we interviewed Kenny, we get on with the reps 117 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 4: before and they say, by the way, it is sphere. 118 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 4: It is not the Sphere, it is Fear. Then they 119 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 4: give us copy and it says not the do not 120 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 4: say the And we asked Kenny the first question, how 121 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 4: are excited are you to play this show? 122 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 2: How long has it taken? 123 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 4: He says, oh, y'all, I can't wait to play the Sphere. 124 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 3: It's gonna be the sky. He said it twenty times. 125 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 3: And here we are saying. 126 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: Should we edit it out? 127 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 4: I mean, we don't want to make him look bad, 128 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 4: but they're yelling at us, thinking we're the ones that 129 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 4: are gonna mess it up. And Kenny said it twelve 130 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 4: times during the interviews. 131 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: You should have edited out every the so is really awkward. 132 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 3: I'm so excited to play Fear. I can't wait to 133 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: go to Spear. 134 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 4: That's that's a house. How to cut those little words out. 135 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're fully do you and I. It's not the 136 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: Madison Square Guard, that's not the camp Yard, it's. 137 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: Not the MLB. 138 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: Here Jeffrey has been lectured by Jason Bennetti that it's 139 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: not the MLB. 140 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 3: Okay, it's no right, the MLB Cardinals. 141 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: And people say the MLB all the time. It drives 142 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: me crazy. 143 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Dad, Ever since you brought up RBI versus RBI's, 144 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 4: my brain hurts every time because I've always said RBI's, 145 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 4: which makes sense, but it is runs bat it. 146 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 3: In should be RB look like attorneys general. 147 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: Look, we've been over this. 148 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: It's like prisoners, prisoner of war a POW. 149 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: There has to be an S on the end of that. 150 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: It's four hundred po W didn't come home from the 151 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: war POW's. 152 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: That's the comparable. Am I wrong about this? Kevin? 153 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: No? But it should be p's ow as prisoner as plural, right, 154 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: it runs as plural. It should be OURSBI. 155 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Now, Kevin, do I remember that you 156 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: are like some savant when it comes to music, Like 157 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: you know every band, you know every song. Do I 158 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: have that wrong? And don't be modest about this? Are 159 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: you good at. 160 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 3: This I have. I have friends who are way more 161 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: savant like than me. I can't claim to be in 162 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: the A tier. I'm probably in the A tier of 163 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: overall music knowledge for sports broadcasters. I think that's fair 164 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 3: to say, Like, I have friends who, you know, just 165 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 3: go to like punk shows in Brooklyn all the time. 166 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: I wish I could do that, but I am otherwise 167 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 3: obligated to be talking about baseball. But if you ask 168 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: my broadcast partners Ben McDonald or Jim Palmer, they would 169 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: tell you that I am. I think that's because they 170 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: may have more narrow musical tastes. Yeah, I I cast 171 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 3: a wide net, I. 172 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 4: Do, Yeah, I mean when you the company you keep, Kevin, 173 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 4: like my dad thinks I'm of the intelligence level technology 174 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 4: wise of Mark Zuckerberg, just because I know how to 175 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 4: lock my iPhone. 176 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: You do share a resemblance, you know, use a passing resemblance, 177 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 3: now that you say it. But I, unlike your father here, 178 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 3: I have been to more than three concerts. 179 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:23,479 Speaker 2: In my life. 180 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: Thank you goodness. 181 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna ask you, Kevin, what do you 182 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: think is more impressive yellow Card or you two? What 183 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: is the better band? Because Yellow Card is one of 184 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: the bands that I went to see. 185 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: It was in the It's Daughner was in the seventh 186 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: grade and I was in charge. 187 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 3: It's close. Yellow Card didn't write or YouTube didn't write 188 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 3: Ocean Avenue, so it's I did see. Yellow Card just 189 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 3: made it, I think, to the number one spot on 190 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: the Billboard Billboard Alternative Rock Songs. It was it's been 191 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 3: like twenty five years since they first charted shout out 192 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 3: to Yellowcard. I didn't know Yellow Card was still a thing. 193 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 4: I didn't know they were active sell. 194 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: The only the last conversation about Yellow Card was a 195 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 3: year and a half ago when I found out that 196 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: Tim you had been to three concerts and one of 197 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: them was Yellow Card. 198 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: And I got it all mixed up with Green Card 199 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: and Green Day. 200 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 2: It was awful. 201 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 4: They were old. 202 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 2: They were screaming at me. It was it was. It 203 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: was terrible, all right. 204 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: You brought it up, Kevin, So you work with Ben McDonald. 205 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: Ben McDonald's one of my favorite people in the whole world. 206 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: But I was telling Jeff, there can't be two people 207 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: who do a similar job, you and Ben McDonald, who 208 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: are less alike in what they enjoy doing. Am I 209 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: right about this? Ben loves to to wrestle alligators. And 210 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: to me, other than me, you would be the last 211 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: person on earth that would ever wrestle an alligator. 212 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: If I got this right, you are one hundred percent correct. 213 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 214 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 3: We are different in most every way. We are different 215 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 3: in our outdoor attivities. We are different in our hairstyles. 216 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: He has a rock and flat top Ben Will. Ben 217 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: says he will go to the barber and say give 218 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: me the Will Smith, but not the Oscars Will Smith, 219 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: the fresh Prince Will Smith for the flat top, not 220 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 3: the Dodger catcher or the multi time World Series winning 221 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: reliever either. Ben's from Denham Springs, Louisiana. I am from 222 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: Long Island. It's a real odde couple peering. But the 223 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 3: one thing we well, there are two things we have 224 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: in common. I think, I hope I can say this. 225 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: One is that we're both at the heart like really wonderful. 226 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,239 Speaker 3: I hope I'm being arrogant to myself. Wonderful but dedicated 227 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 3: family men, my daughters too. He has an older daughter 228 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 3: and a son. His daughter just got married last month, 229 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 3: very wonderful moment for Ben and his family. And two, 230 00:11:54,160 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: we love baseball and we speak very different languages right 231 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 3: in the real world, and even sometimes different languages in baseball, 232 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 3: but they just coalesce really beautifully. And like we can 233 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 3: talk analytics and Ben will say, well, I don't know 234 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 3: that term. But here's how we talked about that. When 235 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 3: I pitched, and I can say induce vertical break, and 236 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: he could say I didn't know what that was. But 237 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 3: when Mike Messina would throw fastballs right down the middle 238 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 3: and nobody could hit it, we'd go, what is that? 239 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 3: It's disappearing fastball. It's an invisible it's got rise. And 240 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 3: so we actually do end up speaking the same language 241 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: more than you'd think two people of our dissimilar backgrounds 242 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: would speak. 243 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: Right, Ben, Ben is okay, now, but he fell out 244 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: of a hunting blind? Is that the name of that? 245 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: By the way, I've never hunted in my life. 246 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: Is that what it's called? 247 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 3: A Well, I clearly have such hunting experience. I'm going 248 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 3: to correct you here. 249 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you, Kevin, how many I. 250 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: Know it was a stand of some kind. He was 251 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: repairing blinds or stands on his property, and he I mean, 252 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 3: he felt twenty five feet like it's honestly, it's a 253 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 3: minor miracle, maybe even more that he is alive and 254 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: well and not permanently damaged. He had a severe concussion 255 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 3: which led up pretty quickly at a couple of crack 256 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 3: vertebrates in his lower back, and he was back at 257 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 3: work a week later. The guy is, it seems like 258 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 3: he's made a steel and I am just every day 259 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 3: I see him like so genuinely dearly thankful that he's okay. 260 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 3: I mean, forget working with us. He got to walk 261 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: his daughter down the aisle a few weeks after falling 262 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 3: out of a tree stand, so my heart was heavy 263 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: when I heard about it. But he is great. He's 264 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: doing really well, and it's been even more of a 265 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 3: pleasure than it usually is to be back with him. 266 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: Kevin, no doubt you would have died if you'd fallen 267 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: out of a hunting blind from twenty five feet. 268 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 3: My feet would have probably gotten me, to be honest, 269 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 3: if you, Yeah, I trip on the sidewalk and we 270 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: might need to call the paramedics. 271 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 4: Kevin, your other teammate and partner, Jim Palmer, has been 272 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 4: a guest on this show, and he, first of all, 273 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 4: he talked a lot about you in that interview which 274 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 4: was great, And we've heard that you do some impressions. 275 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 4: We've heard some fun that you guys have. But just 276 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 4: tell us a little tell us your favorite cakes story, 277 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 4: because we love Jim Palmer here on the show. 278 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, happy, you pick one. You know, you go 279 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 3: to nineteen seventy three, you know, Louis t on Jim 280 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: Rice red Lynn Tuesday Night, seven thirty one, first pitch, 281 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 3: win six seven knots right field, rollo, stripsky three to one, curveball, 282 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 3: hits a foul, three two fastballs, strike them out, come 283 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 3: back to the doug out Earl sense throw them a curveball, 284 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: but that was Earl. So you know we won the 285 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 3: game four three, one hundred and one wins. McNally quaar 286 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: twenty two and eight six, nineteen to five. But you 287 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 3: throw mornings in those days. I mean, it feels like 288 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 3: we're interviewing Jim. 289 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: He is the scan button on the radio. He just 290 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: goes from one topic to another. I have never heard 291 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: a better Jim Pover personation than that. 292 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: You did. 293 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: It just come naturally, or it's sitting next to him 294 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: for six years and it comes easily. 295 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 3: Probably sitting next to him for six years, people, I 296 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: hope have heard your episode with him, and they will 297 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 3: know a little bit of what I know, which is 298 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 3: that you know we There's this website Baseball Savant, which 299 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: breaks down a lot of new metrics, and Jim is 300 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: the baseball Savant. When I first met Jim, I realized 301 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: no one has more of a handle on their own 302 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: statistics and own accomplishments than Jim. And I wondered, a out, 303 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: does he just know his own stats like the back 304 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: of his hand? And then you realize very quickly, No, 305 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: he knows everybody's stats. He knows Carl Yastremsky's stats, he 306 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 3: knows Intro's stats. He knows what a certain oriole player 307 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 3: hit four years ago with runners in scoring position. Like 308 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: he could tell you Cedric mullins twenty twenty one batting 309 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 3: average with runners in scoring position. I couldn't tell you 310 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 3: Cedric Mullins' overall batting average in twenty twenty five. I mean, 311 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 3: he is just that adept at knowing everything about everyone. 312 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 3: And I mean I've only known Jim for six years, 313 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 3: so I've only known him in his seventies. It's hard 314 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: to imagine anybody in their sixties or fifties or forties 315 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 3: or thirties or twenties, retains as much and is as 316 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: sharp as this guy. And every once in a while 317 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: he'll say something, I'll look it up just for fun, 318 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: and he's either dead on or it'll be like, oh, 319 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 3: it's a seven hitter instead of a six hitter. It's 320 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 3: incredible his retention and his his ability to recall details. 321 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: And I'll say this too, think about Jim's standing right 322 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 3: two hundred and sixty eight game winner, three World Series 323 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 3: three sciens like unquestionably one of the greatest pictures of 324 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 3: his era and the greatest pitcher in Oils history. He 325 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 3: is still doing at seventy nine fifty plus Orioles games 326 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 3: on our local television broadcast. There is nobody with the 327 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 3: accomplishments of Jim Palmer who is doing this much local 328 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: Baseball TV. Nobody now Barry Larkin does the Reds home games. 329 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 3: Barry had a wonderful career, right, a Hall of famer, 330 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: one of the great shortstops. What other Hall of famers 331 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: are doing the workload that Jim is doing, and who's 332 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: doing it sixty years after they joined the game. So 333 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 3: every day with that guy is a blessing. Beyond a 334 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 3: blessing and Kevin. 335 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: I met him when he was in his young thirties, 336 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine. And if you think he was he's 337 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: interesting to talk to now and has recalled now, you 338 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: should have seen him when he was an active player. 339 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: Those pitchers on that team, Scott McGregor, Storm Davis, Mike 340 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: Flanning would sit next to Jim Palmer on the days 341 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: that they weren't pitching, and Steve Stone or somebody was pitching, 342 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: and they would sit next to Palmer, just the four 343 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: of them, and he would show them what to look 344 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: for tomorrow night when you're pitching against the White Sox. 345 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: That's one of his great strength. That's one of the 346 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: things I don't think we do very well anymore. But 347 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: can you imagine sitting next to him as a teammate 348 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: pitcher and having him show you what's going to happen 349 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: tomorrow night. I mean, that's the ultimate strength of Jim Palmer. 350 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 3: Now, were you with one of the Baltimore papers in nineteen. 351 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: Washington Star, and then briefly in eighty one, I was 352 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: at the Baltimore News American, and then I work for 353 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: the Sun eighty six through eighty nine in Baltimore. 354 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: So I got a good load of. 355 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: Jim for a lot of years, and I've never met 356 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: anybody quite like I have a million Jim Palmer stories, 357 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: but we're not gonna go to all of them at 358 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: this point. And Kevin, do you do any other impersonations? 359 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: And don't be modest about this. You do Sean McDonough, right, 360 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: not really? 361 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 3: I mean what, honestly what I if I did a 362 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 3: Sean McDonough, it would just be an impersonation of Jason 363 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 3: Bennetti doing Sean McDonough. It's like, you know, it's like 364 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 3: a three cheese lasagna kind of deal. Like you it's 365 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 3: reheated over Jason's. I can't do it in embarrassing. I'm 366 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 3: embarrassing myself and I'm embarrassing Jason. If I do it, 367 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 3: it's it's a poor man's McDonald. 368 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 4: Jason did it for us on the show, Kevin and Stitches. 369 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 3: I would never deign to top or match that. Benetti 370 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 3: is the impression crack? 371 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 4: Now, I want to ask before we move on from 372 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 4: your partners. I know, because how most broadcasters get their start, 373 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 4: right is you're calling a high school game by yourself 374 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 4: into a baby microphone, and then you get to go 375 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 4: and call a game with Jim Palmer and the likes 376 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 4: of Sorry Dad, Tim Kirkshin he doesn't like being flattered 377 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 4: on this show. But like where you can lay out 378 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 4: and you've got these minds of the game, whether they're 379 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame writers or Hall of Fame broadcasters. Take 380 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 4: us back to I always ask country artists this, like 381 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 4: take us back to the bar where two people were 382 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 4: asleep at the bar and you were playing a gig. 383 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 4: Like take us back to broadcasting, like the low. 384 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 3: Of the Low. 385 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 4: And I mean that respectfully. This is how broadcasters get 386 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 4: their start. 387 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 3: Well my start, I mean I was lucky that my 388 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 3: professional start was in tripa A baseball. A lot of 389 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 3: people start is in low A or high A ball. 390 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 3: And I got my start with Jason Bennetti, the aforementioned 391 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,239 Speaker 3: and I worked with him for four years. So it 392 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 3: was like I went to college for four years at 393 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 3: Syracuse and then basically I went to grad school for 394 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 3: four years. That's what working with Jason was like. 395 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 5: So the. 396 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 3: Points you're talking about that's probably more in tune with 397 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 3: I was covering high school sports at MSGU Varsity, which 398 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 3: was a network that was an offshoot of MSG Networks 399 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 3: in New York, and it was all over the Tri 400 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 3: state area, and it's pretty much what you said. I 401 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 3: would go to high school games on Long Island or 402 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 3: in New York, or in Connecticut or Jersey, and it 403 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 3: would be me and one camera operator and we'd get 404 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 3: there and we'd chew a stand up sometime before the game, 405 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 3: and then we'd go to the back of the bleachers 406 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 3: and I'd be sitting there with the roster in front 407 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 3: of me and the back of the bleachers, and my 408 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 3: friend Tom or Jen somebody is on the camera next 409 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: to me, and I'm just calling the whole game by 410 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,719 Speaker 3: myself and parents around you or looking up weirdly, like 411 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 3: who is this twenty two year old kid who actually 412 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 3: looks fifteen, who's never been sized for a sport coat 413 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: in his life and his sport coach's three sizes too big, 414 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: who's wearing a garish yellow tie because he didn't learn 415 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 3: any much fashion in his life. And then that game 416 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 3: would be edited and rendered by the camera person, and 417 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 3: three days later it would air on a Tuesday night 418 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 3: on the web, and you get paid, I don't know, 419 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty Bucks or something. But it was 420 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: the greatest experience. It was the greatest thing ever because 421 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 3: if you can learn and prep for you know, a 422 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 3: like Shoreum Waiting River or Secham North soccer or boys 423 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 3: soccer or girl's volleyball or Class D Long Island football 424 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 3: game by yourself and get through it, work with Jim 425 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 3: Palmer and Jim Kirchin is like rolling out of bed 426 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 3: and brushing your teeth. It's basically that easy. So it 427 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 3: was the greatest experience I had because I had to 428 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 3: learn how to do everything myself. And then when you're 429 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 3: with somebody who's knowledgeable and smart and creative, like you 430 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 3: just have to kind of show up. Not to say 431 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 3: I don't just show up. I do actually work contrary 432 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 3: to what people may think. But yeah, that was the 433 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 3: building block I needed. Just go out there and figure 434 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 3: it out. Like you got to to learn about this 435 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 3: high school football team. There's no sports information direct or 436 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 3: it Holy Trinity High School, so you got to figure out, Okay, 437 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 3: the football coach is the English teacher, so let me 438 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 3: call the school and then when is the English teacher off? 439 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 3: When's his lunch? Okay, maybe I can get him between 440 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: twelve and twelve thirty and run through the roster, and 441 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 3: he could tell me who's on the team and who's injured. 442 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 3: And so I don't show up and say, well, here 443 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 3: comes quarterback Jeff Kirkchen the starter, and then realized, oh wait, 444 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 3: Jeff like fractured his ankle on Tuesday. But I didn't 445 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: talk to the coach. I didn't catch him in between, 446 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: you know, honors English, So I don't actually know there 447 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 3: was nobody there. You had to do it all yourself. 448 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 3: And the diy thing at the lowest of the low 449 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 3: in the industry makes everything else feel like a breeze. 450 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 4: Kevin, Yeah, I called the game for Z eighty nine 451 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 4: Sports once. 452 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 2: Kevin. 453 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 4: It was a football game, and I didn't realize that 454 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 4: there were jersey numbers on the defensive end offensive side 455 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: that had the same number the entire time. The starting 456 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 4: running back. And let me tell you, the quarterback could 457 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 4: not throw the ball. So you want to know how 458 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 4: many times they ran the ball with the running back. 459 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 4: Every time they ran the ball with the running back, 460 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:50,239 Speaker 4: and I called the defensive player's name every time in 461 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 4: the first half, dom Gidichi, I'll never forget the name 462 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 4: because I said it a thousand times. 463 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 3: Only this night of dom Gduci's life. You finally got 464 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 3: to be the two way player he thought he could be. 465 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 3: He was Travis Hunter before Travis Hunter, and. 466 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 4: He wasn't even playing on the defensive end, and he 467 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 4: was on. 468 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: The bench right. So, Kevin, you did the Syracuse Chiefs. 469 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: Give us a night in April, middle of April, where 470 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: it's like fourteen degrees outside and it's the coldest night 471 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: of your life. 472 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,479 Speaker 2: Look, Jeffrey went to Syracuse. I've been there a million times. 473 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: Give us a night where. 474 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: You just said, I'm not sure I'm going to make 475 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: it through a mid April night in Syracuse. 476 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 3: Well, the International League at the time was really smart. 477 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 3: You know, Syracuse is in the league, Buffalo's in the league, 478 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 3: Rochester is in the league, and then you have Durham 479 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 3: and Charlotte and Norfolk and Gwinnette and teams in the South. 480 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 3: So they were really smart. So every year we'd go 481 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 3: play Durham and Charlotte, Gwinnette and April and oh no, wait, 482 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: we played them in July, and we played Buffalo and 483 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 3: Rochester every April. So it was like thirty straight days 484 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 3: of thirty nine degree weather. A good scheduling all around, 485 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 3: really well thought up. The coldest day I remember was 486 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: in April of twoenty twelve. It was so cold that 487 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 3: the game was canceled or postponed anyway due to cold 488 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 3: and wins. And that was the day Bryce Harper went 489 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 3: up to Washington, So that would have been the final 490 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 3: day for us with Bryce Harper, but he didn't show 491 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 3: up because it was like twenty eight degrees outside and 492 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 3: twenty eight mile per hour wins. So we never got 493 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 3: our chance to say goodbye after you know, three and 494 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 3: a half weeks of Triple A Bryce Harper, who was 495 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 3: clearly good enough to be in the majors. Bryce Harper, 496 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 3: Syracuse Farewell potentially was colded out. 497 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 4: Well. It's crazy too, because the poor guy grew up 498 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: in Las Vegas, and he must have said, I'd better 499 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 4: be a major league player because I can't play another 500 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 4: day in Syracuse, New York. Mine. 501 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 502 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 3: He hit one home run that whole first month with us, 503 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 3: and it was off of then starter Juri's Familia for 504 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bisons, and it was a line drive to 505 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 3: right center. And the one image I have is of 506 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 3: the very dead trees in the outfield as the ball 507 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 3: whizz by, because again it's probably forty one degrees at 508 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 3: first pitch. There is no life, nothing's growing. You just 509 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 3: got trains going by. Every once in a while, some 510 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 3: deer show up in right field and there's a home 511 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,239 Speaker 3: run from a future generational star, and there are no 512 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 3: leaves on the trees because we're in the Arctic circle 513 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 3: of face pat. 514 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: So, Kevin, we all know there's another Kevin Brown in baseball. 515 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: He was a Yes, he was a Really you're telling 516 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,239 Speaker 1: me he wasn't just a good pitcher. He is a 517 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: borderline Hall of famer. Have you ever met him? 518 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: Have you ever? 519 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: And you must have been mixed up with him somehow 520 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: along the way. Somebody must have confused you for the 521 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: other Kevin Brown. First off, have you ever met that 522 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: Kevin Brown. 523 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 3: I've never met him. 524 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: You need I'd love to you need to. Have you 525 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 2: been mixed up for him? Confused for him? 526 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 3: Not in person, but yeah, every once in a while 527 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 3: you get a comment, Oh, I was watching the game 528 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 3: and Kevin Brown, know he's doing play by play. I 529 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: will tell you that Kevin Brown mixed up I have. 530 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 3: We're on videos. This will be released on video right, 531 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 3: not just audio. 532 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 2: So we need to see it. You can leave your 533 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 2: chair for a second. 534 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 3: My basement currently is or my office. We just had 535 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 3: our kitchen redone, so everything surrounding me is from our kitchen. So, 536 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 3: but there's a Kevin Brown artifact I want to get. 537 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take off my headphone. See I play some 538 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: Benny Hill music or something on done. 539 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 4: He's currently moving pots and pans. 540 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: All right, I'm back. I've knocked over some baking soda. 541 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 3: So two years ago, my brother in law got me 542 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 3: a gift for Christmas. We celebrate Christmas with my wife 543 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 3: and her family, and everybody brings out gifts. The siblings 544 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: have gifts for each other. My brother in law says, 545 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 3: I got you this, and it's a Kevin Brown signed 546 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 3: baseball And I thought, oh, that's really neat. And then 547 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 3: I examined more closely, and I'm going to hold up 548 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 3: to the screen here and it says two thousand and 549 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 3: two Kevin Brown C. Now, those of you eagle eyed 550 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 3: baseball fans will know that C stands for catcher. And 551 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 3: then on the ball it says Red Sox two thousand 552 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 3: and two. So I said, Andrew, which Kevin Brown is this? 553 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 3: Because I'm pretty sure, there was a journeyman catcher who 554 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 3: kicked around the big leagues for about forty games, also 555 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 3: named Kevin Brown. And he said, without missing a beat, Oh, 556 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 3: I guess that's why I got such a good deal 557 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 3: on it. So he got me the wrong Kevin Brown 558 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 3: in baseball. This was not the borderline Hall of Famer 559 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 3: two hundred and eleven game winner, you know, one hundred 560 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 3: million dollar contract Kevin Brown. This was University of Southern 561 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 3: Indiana star Kevin Brown, who played eighty five games over 562 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 3: seven big league years and for the two thousand and 563 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 3: two Red Sox for whom he played when he signed 564 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 3: this ball, he was oh for one and two years, 565 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 3: and that was the last major league time of his career. 566 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 2: It's so funny. And I talked to though I have not. 567 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 3: Met either Kevin Brown, but I'd be just as happy 568 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 3: to meet this one and show him that. And my 569 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 3: assumption is he would say, oh, yeah, all the signed 570 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: baseball's of mine, I assume our mistakes. He's got a 571 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 3: figure like he's in the market for people thinking it's 572 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 3: the other Kevin Brown, or maybe even the other other. 573 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: Three Kevin Brown's of baseball. 574 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: So Jeff Kevin Brown the borderline Hall of Famer was it. 575 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,479 Speaker 2: Let's just be nice about this. 576 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: He wasn't as personable about our Kevin Brown today. 577 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 2: We'll just put it that way. 578 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: So I once to ask Bobby Valentine about Kevin Brown, 579 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: and he looks at me and he goes, I only 580 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: had one really good conversation with Kevin Brown, which was 581 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: and he he managed it for years in Texas. He 582 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: only had one really good conversation. They were sitting on 583 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: an airplane and Kevin Brown, borderline Hall of Famer and 584 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: wicked smart engineer from Georgia Tech. Bobby looks at him 585 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: and says, tell me how this plane takes off. And 586 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: Kevin Brown explains the whole Bernoulli principle or whatever it's. 587 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 2: Called, not like I know it about that, And. 588 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: He explained to his manager sitting on an airplane after 589 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: a game, how this airplane takes off. I just love 590 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: that story that Kevin Brown may not have been everyone's 591 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: best friend, but he sure knew how a plane took off. 592 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 3: By the way Bernoully principal. I think Berneulli is the 593 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 3: guy who kept running the ball in jeff z eighty 594 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 3: nine games fifteen more for Bernoully off right tackle, first down, 595 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 3: Nottingham High School. Kevin Lee was on the bench. 596 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: So, Kevin, the first time, the first time I ever 597 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: worked with you, help me here. I think the first 598 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: time I ever worked with you was at the Little 599 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: League World Series and. 600 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: We did that. We did the home run derby. Correct 601 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 2: they had they had twelve year old boys, twelve year 602 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: old girls, you know, temporary fences and everything. Do you 603 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: remember anything about that? 604 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? I remember there were not a lot of hole 605 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 3: run some Little League home run derby. Was it the 606 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 3: first year that it was televised or the first year 607 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 3: it existed? And then we we we called the whole derby. 608 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 3: Our friend Jessica Mendoza was supposed to be with us, 609 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 3: but she I think she like got in a car 610 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 3: accident or something happened and she couldn't make it. And 611 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 3: then it was you and I and we did the 612 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 3: derby and after it was then edited and released the 613 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 3: next day as a tape show, because if they had 614 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 3: aired the derby live, it would have been two three 615 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 3: hours and lots of lots of pop ups, five balls. 616 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 3: I think we had to stay for an extra hour 617 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 3: hour and a half after to do what they call 618 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 3: the industry pickups or cover and just say, hey, you know, uh, 619 00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 3: Monica Smith and Jimmy Jones, you know, no home runs, 620 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 3: but nice kids and they like watching you know, Juan 621 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 3: Soto hit or whatever. And we had to actually like 622 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 3: not redo the show, but tape all these lines for 623 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 3: the taped version, which I then watched with my family 624 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 3: the next day. 625 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Kevin, remember we went to interview the kids 626 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: who were involved in the Little League home run derby, 627 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: and I remember, I think I've got this right. One 628 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: of the one of the boys names was Everest, So 629 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: I asked him, like, that's a unique first name, Like 630 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: where does that come from? 631 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 2: And he goes, I think I remember this properly. 632 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: Is well, my parents love mountain climbing, and uh, they 633 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 1: were gonna name me kill Himnjarrow, but they. 634 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 2: Thought that was a little bit too much, so they 635 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: named me Everes. 636 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 3: I was just gonna make that same joke, but I 637 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 3: didn't remember. 638 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 2: Yes, that's what he told. 639 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: I remember using that on the air because I got 640 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: such a chuckle out of that, because no telling what 641 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: kids might say, especially at the Little League World Series. 642 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 3: I us found right now, I haven't opened this in 643 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 3: six years. I just found a twenty nineteen Little League 644 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 3: home run derby document. Wow, I should look up and 645 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 3: see if any of these kids are now committed to 646 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 3: play college baseball or softball. 647 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean they'll all be eighteen seventeen, eighteen, nineteen 648 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 4: years old right around. 649 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 650 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 3: So if Chris big Hemp Hemp Hill is out there, 651 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 3: or writer the Ripper Young or Cash Compliment that's a 652 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 3: real name, Cash and his nickname was my or you know, 653 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 3: for the softball fans like me, Michelle Long hit Britt 654 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 3: from Tinton Falls Little League in Tinton Falls, New Jersey, 655 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 3: or Angie Calderon from Sierra vis to Ponytail Little League. 656 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 3: We hope you guys and gals are doing well, right, No, 657 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 3: we missed you, Yeavin. 658 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: I've used this before, but when I did, I did 659 00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: a lot of little. 660 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 3: Oh everest ever O U E L L E T 661 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 3: T E we something like that. 662 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 2: We got it right. I'm so happy. 663 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 3: I was trying to wait a minute. Wait, okay, yes, 664 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 3: I literally have in my notes here name Colon. Parents 665 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 3: are climbers. They were climbing Mount Kilimanjaro and got the 666 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 3: inspiration but thought kilimanjar. 667 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 2: Was too long. 668 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 3: You nailed it. That's incredible. I haven't thought that this 669 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 3: is six years it's my notes. 670 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 2: Oh that was so good. 671 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: And again, Kevin, I was in a lot of Little 672 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: League games, and I've told Jeff this, so you're gonna 673 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: hear it too. One of the kids wrote in this 674 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: little biou his favorite joke or whatever he says. He says, 675 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: what what dinosaur has the best vocabulary? 676 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 2: Answer? 677 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 1: The thesaurus, which I just thought was absolutely hilarious. 678 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 2: Twelve year old could come up with that thesaurus. 679 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: And my grandson Carson, age four, is the biggest dinosaur 680 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: guy in the world. That is so all right, I 681 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: need to switch gears. Nick, Kevin, you have to promise 682 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: me that you will. 683 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 2: Not be too humble about this. You are a great 684 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 2: jeopardy player. Say it. Yes, I'm really good at this. 685 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: You're allowed to say this because I'm acknowledging it for you. 686 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 3: Okay, what is I am a great jeopardy player? 687 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 2: Now? Where does that come from? Kevin? Did you watch 688 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 2: it as a kid? Do you watch it now? Yeah? 689 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 2: Mom and Dad, get you involved. 690 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: You know. Pete Fairbanks, the reliever for the Rays. He 691 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: reads like a book a day. He read the Harry 692 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 1: Potter books by himself when he was five years old, 693 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: and he is an absolute master of you know, like 694 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: crossword puzzles and things like that. Loves Jeopardy. So where 695 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: does your love of Jeopardy come from? 696 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 3: First of all, we see the race next week, and 697 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 3: I didn't know that. So I'm gonna have to introduce 698 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 3: myself to Pete and ask him. 699 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: And you need to tell him because he was on 700 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: our podcast just about this time last year in like 701 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 1: the what was it called, Jeff they read a book week. 702 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 2: It was like. 703 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: National Read Abuition read a book week, right, and he explained, 704 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: it's it's incredible how well read Pete Fairbanks is. 705 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 2: So just go talk to me about that. 706 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: But back to the question where did Jeopardy come from? 707 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 2: For you? 708 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 3: I actually remember the first night I watched. It was 709 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 3: a record breaking night. I believe Roger Craig was the 710 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 3: first player to maybe I don't know if it was 711 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 3: reach a million dollars. No, I think it was Roger 712 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 3: Craig had the all time single game score. Please double 713 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 3: check me on this. But I was at my grandparents' 714 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 3: house on Long Island in Balton, New York, and I 715 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 3: like distinctly remember watching the show for the first time 716 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 3: and that it was a record breaking night, which was 717 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 3: weird because the first time I ever watched Who Wants 718 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 3: to Be a Millionaire was when John Carpenter won the 719 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 3: million dollars. So if you have a new game show, 720 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 3: please call me for the mild episode. But so my grandmother, 721 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 3: my mom, I was one of those and I still 722 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 3: would like to be a read a book a day 723 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 3: kind of person. I have fallen off a bit in 724 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 3: my you know life as a father slash full time 725 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 3: baseball slash other sports announcer. But I was the kind 726 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 3: of kid that, like the kindergarten teacher who was my 727 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 3: aunt Susan by the way, would have to say like, no, 728 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 3: we have to eat lunch or take a nap, Like 729 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 3: you can't just read the whole time, or I think 730 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 3: you have to actually go play with or talk to 731 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 3: the other kids. You can't just sit in the corner, 732 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 3: you know, during free period and read. We'd be you know, 733 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 3: going into family member's house or something. I would say, 734 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 3: you have to get out of the car, you have 735 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 3: to put the book down. So I was just a bookish, 736 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 3: bookish kid, like interested in everything and Jeopardy is a 737 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 3: good show when you're interested in everything. I have done 738 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 3: the online quiz a couple of times. I have yet 739 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 3: to be accepted. So if any of the producers are 740 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 3: out there and you want a huge, huge rating in Baltimore, Maryland, 741 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 3: you can probably find other people. But I am also 742 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 3: available and willing, and maybe being on your podcast will 743 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 3: get me famous enough to be on Celebrity Jeopardy someday. 744 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 4: There we go, and to confirm Roger Craig at the 745 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 4: time highest single game total on Jeopardy. 746 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 3: That was it. Yeah, not the forty nine ers wide receiver. 747 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 3: Different Roger, not that Kevin Brown, not that Roger French. 748 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 2: But that is how bad I am the Roger Craig. 749 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 2: For me. 750 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: When I hear Roger Craig, I think about the guy 751 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: who pitched for the sixty two Mets who ended up 752 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: being the manager of the Giants and was all over 753 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 1: the play. That's my Roger Craig. That's who I thought 754 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: you were talking about. There's a third Roger Craig who 755 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: broke all the records on Jeopardy. 756 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying? 757 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, or at least he was, you know before before 758 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 3: they opened the game up where you could win more 759 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 3: than five in remember Jeopardy used to be if you 760 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 3: won five er, oh congratulations, you're a genius. On to 761 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 3: the next one. And then they changed it and Ken 762 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 3: Jennings won an historic run, but Roger Craig was the 763 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 3: single game record holder for I believe quite some time. 764 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: So Kevin, again, please don't be humble. Have you ever 765 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: run the table on Jeopardy? Ever watched the show and 766 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 1: got every question right in Oh, no, you can't do that. 767 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 2: No one could do that right. 768 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 3: Only George Costanza and Seinfeld is capable of such a fee. 769 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: Or Bill Murray in Groundhog Day, which because yeah, which 770 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: was one of the great episodes ever, of great scenes 771 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: ever when he knows all and they look at him 772 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: like you what is wrong, late titty kaka? You know 773 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: he got every one of them right? It was so 774 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: it was so good. So brad Ostmas went to Dartmouth 775 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: and Brad Ostmas caught the big leagues for years and 776 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: he and I asked him once, does. 777 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 2: Everyone on the team know how smart you are? 778 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 1: And he's so humble, but he says, yeah, they know 779 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,720 Speaker 1: I went to Dartmouth, so they think like I should 780 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: get every question right on Jeopardy, Like, how come you 781 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 1: don't know this? 782 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 2: And he had to say, nobody knows this. 783 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: Just because I went to Dartmouth doesn't mean I'm gonna 784 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 1: get every question right. 785 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 3: I will say that. The the thing I've learned about 786 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,240 Speaker 3: Jeopardy over the years, and again I have not actually 787 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 3: played the game just from home, is they do want you, 788 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 3: the producer of the show, they do want you to 789 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 3: get the questions right and score. So don't overthink it. Like, 790 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 3: and again this is advice from somebody who's never actually 791 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 3: played the game, but it seems like my instinct is 792 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 3: right more often than not. And I'm like, oh, that's 793 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 3: too easy. Probably not. They do want you to score. 794 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 3: It would be really bad if everybody went to Final 795 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 3: Jeopardy with three hundred dollars in their pocket. So that's 796 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 3: if I have any advice to any burgeoning Jeopardy players 797 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 3: out there, just don't overthink it, and you you'll be 798 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 3: like Brad Ostmins or Pete Fairbanks or me Tertiarily. 799 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 4: If Jim Palmer were the host of Jeopardy, how would 800 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 4: he welcome us and introduce a question? 801 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 3: Well, you get a potables, you got two hundred, four hundred. 802 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,399 Speaker 3: You can go to six hundred daily double out there. 803 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 3: Speaking of daily doubles, Brian Roberts said, fifty one doubles 804 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 3: two thousand and nine. That was basically a daily level. 805 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: So Kevin in ninety four, baseball strike happens. There's no 806 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. So I covered the Triple A World Series, 807 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 1: International League World Series, Richmond against Charlotte, and I'm in 808 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: the Charlotte clubouse. I'm covering the Triple A the International 809 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: League World Series, and there's a player's like lounge there 810 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: which I'm not allowed in, and Jeopardy is on the television, 811 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: and I'm walking past, and all of a sudden a 812 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: guy and I see up on the screen poetry, and 813 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: then a guy, a player, burst out of the room. 814 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: And I look at Tim Jones, who was one of 815 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: the infielders, and I said, did that guy get the 816 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: final Jeopardy answer in poetry? And Tim Jones looked at me, 817 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: he goes, no, no, no, we're baseball players. The way 818 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: we play is if you guess the final Jeopardy category. 819 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 3: You win. 820 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,439 Speaker 2: So this guy guessed poetry and he didn't even care 821 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 2: what the question was. He came flying out because he. 822 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 3: One that is really dumb and really funny. 823 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: But here you are, Kevin, and you're not gonna say 824 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: as we'll say it for your Jeopardy savant and your walk. 825 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: You're working in baseball and we have guys from nineteen 826 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 1: ninety four saying no, no, no, we just guessed the category. 827 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 2: We don't get the answer to just. 828 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 3: Guess the category. What is poetry? It's the category, That's 829 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 3: what it. 830 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,720 Speaker 2: Is, all right, Kevin. I'm sorry we've kept you way 831 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,720 Speaker 2: too long. Today. 832 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: I told you you were going to make us laugh, 833 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 1: and hopefully we made you laugh today. Thanks so much 834 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: for joining us, and I'll see you hopefully at the 835 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: next Little League home run derby 836 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 3: In Williamsvit Tim, some people can only climb every spot.