1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: I'm manny, and this is no such thing to show 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: where were subtle r dumb arguments and yours by actually 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: doing the research this week, where the hell is the 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: damn ketchup? No, there's no no such thing. 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: Touch, thank touch, thank. 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: Touch Touch. 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: This week is very kind of U you know, sitcom 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: coded episode, very King of Queen's style. It's about, I think, 9 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: a common trope that men can't find things, you know, 10 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: in their own home, where presumably they would have some 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: sense of where the condiments are, spices or other everyday items. 12 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: Do you guys relate to this? 13 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 4: Yes, but I will I'll add in a dandum here 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 4: that like, I've only run into this when I've lived 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 4: with my partner. So like before, when I lived by myself, 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 4: it was fine because there's only so many places a 17 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 4: thing could be. But these days, yeah, there's like a 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 4: learning curve a little bit when you move in with 19 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 4: someone who does things a little bit differently me. 20 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm easy. 21 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 4: I'll adapt to your style, but you know it might 22 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 4: take me some time. 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 5: Okay, So you're you're basically did you have this issue 24 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 5: with roommates? 25 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 6: Are there men that you lived with? 26 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 4: Not that I can remember, no, but would you be 27 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: sharing less of things? Yeah, that's what I really is about, 28 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 4: I think. 29 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 5: But you and your wife now have lived in two 30 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 5: separate places where you both moved into these places together. Right, 31 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 5: So yeah, to some degree, you're setting up these places collaboratively. 32 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 5: It's not like she moved into your apartment. 33 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: Yes, or you move We both went into these places. 34 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 5: Okay, let's just remember that for later in the episode. Okay, Wait, 35 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 5: what are certain things that you like are looking for 36 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 5: that you can't find? 37 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 6: Give us an example, you. 38 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 4: Know what, it's really a problem when I'm putting stuff away, 39 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 4: then I just put it to finding things, so I 40 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 4: relate to unloading the dishwasher. 41 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 6: You put things in the wrong spots, or I'll. 42 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 4: Be like, where does this thing go? That I never 43 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 4: fucking use? So can I be held accountable for not 44 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 4: knowing where it goes? Sometimes I feel like I don't 45 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 4: use the thing, you know, give me, cut me some slack. 46 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 6: But so you don't cook as often? 47 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 4: I mean yeah, not as often for sure. But she 48 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 4: drinks a lot of coffee and tea and has all 49 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 4: these like dow hickeys that I just never use. 50 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: You don't know where to put feminine devices. 51 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 4: Tea. Hey I didn't say it, but not not really 52 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 4: in case you're listening to this, honey, Yeah, I. 53 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: Mean I'm trying to think what specific things definitely, like 54 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: I set it up, like spices and kind of small 55 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: items that aren't in everyday use. It could be in 56 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: one of two places and you know, maybe we have 57 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: run out of the coriander, you know, outside of the kitchen. 58 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: Other things like where a certain type of towel is 59 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: or anything like that, or cleaning agents. Yeah, yeah, it'll 60 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: be little things like that where it could be Okay, 61 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: it could be in the bathroom under the sink. It 62 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: could be in the kind of storage closet, it could 63 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: be in the office closet. Like you know, there's you know, 64 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: our apartments not that big, but there's just so there's 65 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: like three or four places where everything is crammed in. 66 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: And then because of that, it is kind of an 67 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: ordeal if you have to like move things out of 68 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: the way. So that's where I think maybe a lot 69 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: of the frustration stems from where now it's like all 70 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: right now I need to dig in here. That said, 71 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: I think some OF's this tripe comes up in a 72 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: way where it's like, well, maybe I'm asking where it 73 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: is so we can get to the answer quicker than 74 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: me digging around, maybe making a mess. And you know 75 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: when again, when it's not an everyday use item, it 76 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: might just be easier to have communication. 77 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 4: But it's like asking my friend what time is the 78 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 4: Lakers game versus googling it. Like if I'm right next 79 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 4: to my friend, he might know the answer. 80 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 5: Okay, But to stand out for the women in your 81 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 5: life is kind of annoying. And we talk about this 82 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 5: all the time when people ask you shit that they 83 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 5: should know or they can google. 84 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: Themselves, weaponize some competency. 85 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 6: Yes, I've heard this term. 86 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 5: Yes, So like if you, for example, Noah, You're like, dammit, 87 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 5: I need some Lifesol wipes? 88 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 6: Where do we put that? 89 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 5: All right, this one time you're looking for it, you 90 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 5: don't know. You know it could be in one of 91 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 5: three places. You find them, use them, you put them back. 92 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 5: Three months from now you're thinking about where the Lifesol 93 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 5: wipes are? Does that stick in your brain? 94 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 6: You now know? 95 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 5: Okay, I've I've was looking for the Lefsol wipes at 96 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 5: one time. I know it's in Yeah, i'mder the sink 97 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 5: or do you are you like a goldfish? 98 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 6: You got start over? 99 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 5: You're like, I know it's in one of these three 100 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 5: places I remember where if. 101 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: Everything is in order, hopefully then I typically I think 102 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: I do remember. That's okay, okay, But I think this 103 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: is also where you know, you can easily get into 104 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: a you know, teach a man to fish situation where okay, 105 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: if I actually then go and get it myself, I 106 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: will know, yes. 107 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 6: Versus if you're told. If I'm told or you know, 108 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 6: go get. 109 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: It grabbing for you then given to me, then maybe 110 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: I put them back, but not connecting the same way. 111 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, just to concede a little bit here. There are 112 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 4: times when I'll get the answer and I think that 113 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 4: makes me forget about where it was, Like my my 114 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 4: problem that I was having was solved. 115 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, and so you don't even have to remember to. 116 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: Go so like next time, I'm like, damn, I didn't 117 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 4: ingest that answer. 118 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, in one air out the other. 119 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 4: But I do think some you know, many times I 120 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 4: think I like this, like we are remembering I think 121 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 4: the times we ask where the thing goes, but of 122 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 4: course you don't remember the times we don't ask. There 123 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 4: are I know true. I know all the things you do, 124 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 4: know where the bread is, where the cereal of the time, 125 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 4: not asking where something goes. It's those moments where I 126 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 4: don't know that are more memorable. 127 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 5: I think, how long do you think you're going to 128 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 5: need until you're able to not have to ask? 129 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 6: Well, I just think you're ever reached that day? Or 130 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 6: is it just like. 131 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: Surely over time? 132 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 6: But I guess some of it. 133 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 4: I don't think about it as like an assignment that 134 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 4: needs to. 135 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 6: Be so it's not something you're striving towards. 136 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 4: No, it's relatively not important in my life. Okay, other now, 137 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 4: you know I do want to be helpful. 138 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not so you're not embarrassed or like concerned 139 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 5: that every once in a while you don't know where 140 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 5: something goes. 141 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm confident enough in myself that I'm able to 142 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: ask for help. Yeah, you know it's a man. 143 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 6: You're confident enough of your man wife. 144 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm able to say, babe, I need I need 145 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,119 Speaker 1: help right now? Where the hell is the catcher? 146 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 6: Please? 147 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: The eggs are getting cold, crying the eggs get it's 148 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: been six hours. 149 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 6: What the help? 150 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: I've looked everywhere? 151 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 5: You know, I'm an investigative journalists here on the pod. 152 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 5: So I didn't want to just take what both Menny 153 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 5: and Noah said about their home lives and how good 154 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 5: they are at finding things. So I, you know, hopped 155 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 5: in the group chat that I have with the girls 156 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 5: secret we have a secret one. So I'm gonna play 157 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 5: some soundbites starting with Mia about how well does many 158 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 5: do in a house at finding things? 159 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: Be interested to hear this. 160 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 7: I think that he's like, doesn't quite have eyes for 161 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 7: the kitchen, you know, keeps it sort of organized and stuff, 162 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 7: but it's just like when it comes to like where 163 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 7: things go, I'm like, oh, this is so funny that 164 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 7: I kind of thought that we had organized the kitchen together. 165 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 7: And then sometimes I'll just be looking for something and. 166 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, aware, enough. 167 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 7: Could that possibly be? And I'll find it in a 168 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 7: completely different place and I'm like, oh, I wouldn't have 169 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 7: thought to put it there when I hurt my back recently. 170 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 7: So then Money was in charge of like doing everything 171 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 7: in the kitchen, cooking, cleaning, like putting stuff away, and 172 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 7: I'd be sat there next to him, like at the 173 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 7: bar on a bar stool, watching him try to navigate 174 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 7: some of this stuff, and it was so funny where 175 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 7: he's like holding up a measuring cup being like I 176 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 7: know where this goes, but like just remind me where's 177 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 7: his go and I'm like, in that cupboard. The other day, 178 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 7: he was like putting a blender away, and he was 179 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 7: going to put it with all of the canned goods 180 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 7: like where we have like beans and crushed tomato sauce. 181 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 7: And I was like, oh, no, that doesn't go there. 182 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 7: That just that goes in the next cupboard. So then 183 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 7: he was gonna put it below with all the vinegar. 184 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 7: I was like, no, no, try again. 185 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 6: It goes in. 186 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 7: Another cupboard, and eventually he found the cupboard where we 187 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 7: keep appliances, and I was like, wow, that's that's so 188 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 7: interesting that in my mind I just kind of like 189 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 7: know where everything goes. But I was like, maybe he 190 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 7: comes into the kitchen every day and it's like what 191 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 7: new adventures away? Where could this go? If I thought 192 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 7: about it fresh? 193 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: This is libel. 194 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 6: Did you know where the blender goes? 195 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 4: No? 196 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: Because I don't fucking use the blender. 197 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 4: I don't use this shit, so I need your help. 198 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: I don't put that shit anywhere. 199 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 4: But I think generally ninety nine percent of the things 200 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 4: I can't remember where they go. It's stuff I don't use, 201 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 4: I will. 202 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 5: Say, to give me any credit, you were talking about 203 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 5: people don't remember when you do. 204 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 6: Find things exactly. We do have an example here. 205 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 7: I was surprised to learn that he does know where 206 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 7: we keep the like bulk salt because we have like 207 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 7: a what do you call it, like a little jar 208 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 7: with salt in it, and we refill it with this 209 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 7: big salt thing that's kind of hidden in the back 210 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 7: of the car cupboard. And I like had realized that 211 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 7: I was the one that you should refilled it. So 212 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 7: I was like, I wonder, like, I'm guessing he probably 213 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 7: doesn't know where it is. And then the other day 214 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 7: he refilled it, and I was like, you know what, 215 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 7: maybe I'm wrong, Maybe he does know where these things are. 216 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 4: She's talking about me like a like a chimpion learn 217 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 4: how to use tools. 218 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: A shocking new development. Surprise, you knew where the salt is? 219 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 6: All right? No, yeah, you're up next. 220 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: I know she's been waiting for this episode. 221 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 5: I will say you you were marked safe in terms 222 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 5: of most things in the kitchen. Yeah, not a lot 223 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 5: of examples there you're pretty good about that. 224 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 6: But Noah's issue is laundry. Mmmm. 225 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: Oh well, it's not my laundry. 226 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 6: Okay, let's play it. 227 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: I'll take the many the many defense. Let's hear it. 228 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 3: Noah cannot discern where my clothing goes at all in 229 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 3: a way that's like really should be studied, Like the 230 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 3: sports bras are going with like the sleep clothes and 231 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 3: the T shirts are going in the underwear drawer, and 232 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: like every time we talk about it, he's just like, right, 233 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: but your system is hard, Like your system's hard, and 234 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 3: there's something about it that just truly does not compute 235 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 3: for him. Like I think if he could put it 236 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 3: away right, he would, but every time he does it wrong, 237 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 3: and every time I say, oh, that would be fine 238 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: if you did it wrong, because then you would learn, 239 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 3: But it's like completely unknowable to him. I will try 240 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 3: to explain the difference between an AARSM top and a 241 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 3: sports bra. 242 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 8: Really hard for him to get his head around. 243 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: And I just feel like that's related in some way 244 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 3: to just like complete inability to pick up on details 245 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: that feel so fundamental to like an art item's properties 246 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 3: to me. 247 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: I'll explain my system, Okay, Yeah, there's pants in one drawer. Yeah, 248 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: there's like sweatshirts and sweatpants in another drawer. Above those, 249 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: I've got socks one drawer. 250 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 4: Same, I've got a lot, way too many draws to 251 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 4: it's it's more of a box, uh drawer thing, probably 252 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 4: not a big drawer. 253 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: Like okay, so boys, and then underwear and like athletic shorts. 254 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 6: Okay, those are in the same. Yeah, my socks were 255 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 6: in my underwear. 256 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: That makes sense. If I if I didn't have so many. 257 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 6: Socks, you have less socks, maybe you could get it. 258 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: And then above that T shirts one drawer and then 259 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: another one for like basically polos and kind of some 260 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: miscellaneous shirts that aren't like. 261 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, not a straight T shirt. 262 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: But that's my six drawers six that's my system. Yeah, 263 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: her she is six drawers as well. It's just incomprehensible 264 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: because the workout clothes seem like sleep clothes to me. 265 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 6: But they're different. 266 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 5: Apparently you don't know the difference between a sports. 267 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: And then there then there's like and then it's like socks. 268 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: It's it just to me, it seems like a jumpoint. 269 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: Every time I opened them. I'm looking and one of 270 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: her drawers doesn't really it'll open or won't close. That's 271 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: a whole over the level of frustration. Now where I'm now, 272 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm really messing this thing up. 273 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 5: Okay, So let me ask you. Is it what's confusing 274 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 5: to you? You don't know where things go, or you 275 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 5: can't discern what the. 276 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: I can't discern what when I open the drawer, it's 277 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: hard to tell what. 278 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 6: Which is which? 279 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: What category should be in here? It is the issue. 280 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 5: Now, let's be honest here. How much of this do 281 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 5: you actually really care about? Like how much of this 282 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 5: is like if you actually put your mind to it, 283 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 5: could you do it? 284 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: I mean it depends what you mean by put my 285 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: mind to it. I mean do I care about it? 286 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 6: No? 287 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I mean like part of it is 288 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 5: like whatever, It's like, this is your stuff. Like if 289 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 5: I put something in slightly the wrong drawer, it's not 290 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 5: that big of a deal. 291 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: That's more or less. 292 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 6: You think that's more of it, or. 293 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 5: You think it's like you're like fuck every week, I 294 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 5: am like trying my hardest to do this and it's 295 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 5: just not clicked. I mean I could yeah, I could 296 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 5: got a hard closed blindness or something. 297 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: I could try harder. I think it is a little 298 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: bit of closed blindness, where like I'm not just throwing 299 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: stuff in. Yeah, you're trying a little bit, but my 300 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: system is a lot simpler, I think, even though I've sick. 301 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 6: Wow, guy, there are a lot simpler. 302 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: You've got like three categories. 303 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 5: Well, let me play this because Julia also said this 304 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 5: in her voice memo, and I think this rings tree 305 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 5: to me. 306 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 8: Obviously, I know that's not about finding things, but I 307 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 8: feel like, as I'm sure you all get into, so 308 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 8: much of this is like dumbass, like mental load shit 309 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 8: of like living in partnership with anyone where one person 310 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 8: is going to be better at something than others. But 311 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 8: like the home is considered the woman's domain, whether I 312 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 8: want it to be or not, like whether I agree 313 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 8: or not, and whether the people coming into my home 314 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 8: agree or not. Ultimately, in my mind, I've been raised 315 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 8: with like this is my responsibility. You haven't been raised 316 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 8: that way, and I feel like that's obviously part of it. Okay, 317 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 8: you haven't been raised to really take not responsibility for this, 318 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 8: but like you don't see it as at all related 319 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 8: to who you are as a person or like a 320 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 8: value about you it's not as important to you to 321 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 8: know where things go because it's keeping an organized is 322 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 8: not a value judgment on you as a person, in 323 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 8: your capability to exist in the world in general. And 324 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 8: so like then being met with obviously wanting to be 325 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 8: a good partner and wanting to be helpful, then being 326 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 8: intently bad at something like that like feels bad. So 327 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 8: then it's kind of futile. 328 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 5: You think that rings true to you that like you 329 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 5: just don't view it as like, well, you don't see 330 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 5: it as a reflection. 331 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it's you. I think there are worse 332 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: character flaws for someone to have. And you know, I 333 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: think in a perfect world we would all be able 334 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: to mess up where things are, you know, And it's 335 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: it's sad that this is what society has done to 336 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: our queens, my queen specifically. 337 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, people are dying. 338 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 5: This is like they're big There are bigger issues in 339 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 5: a worried about the war is not top of the list. 340 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: And if I can't, I can't distinguish the unicule tops 341 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: like have you seen the news? 342 00:15:54,520 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, because in the White House, speaking in a group chat, 343 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 5: I want to make it clear both of them are like, oh, 344 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 5: this isn't really that big of a deal in our relationship. 345 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 6: But I was. 346 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 4: I was listening to what she was saying about, like 347 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 4: what you're expected to do, or like what the home 348 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 4: is a reflection on. But I kind of agree with 349 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 4: no where we're like, yeah, it should be the case 350 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 4: that they're allowed to make more mistakes, not the case 351 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 4: that I should be perfect at putting stuff away. 352 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 5: I like what Julia says about like it doesn't matter 353 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 5: kind of what we think, because it's like, yeah, if 354 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 5: someone shows up to your house and your home is 355 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 5: a mess, yeah, they're not going to say oh God, 356 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 5: damn manny or no, or I'm like, oh, what are 357 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 5: Julian and mea doing? 358 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 6: Like this place is a it's a hell hole. 359 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 5: You know, nothing's organized, it's all over the place, right, 360 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 5: So it is a reflection of the women. 361 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 4: I don't know about if I agree with that so much. 362 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 4: If someone's apartment was dirty, I'd be like, it's the 363 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 4: guy doing this, they're. 364 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: Dirty, or but yes, you would think it'd be like, wow, 365 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: I can't believe she puts up with that. 366 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 5: Yes, you would think it's a want like she is, 367 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 5: because guys are expected to be dirty and the women 368 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 5: are supposed to counter. 369 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 4: It, honestly, genuinely speaking, probably like the war of feminism 370 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 4: in the past, like fifty sixty years has allowed these 371 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 4: kind of uffs to be on equal a little closer 372 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 4: to equal standing today than like in the fifties or 373 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 4: sixties or seventies. Of course, if there was a dirty house, 374 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 4: it'd be like who the hell did you marry? 375 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: Who's this woman? 376 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, Now it's more expected that men should help out 377 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 5: a bit in the home, but it's cenerally still not 378 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 5: you know, it's not fifty to fifty, but it is 379 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 5: is less like, you know, guy goes to work, shows 380 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 5: up at home and does absolutely nothing right, like they're 381 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 5: I feel like guys get like shirtain chores now and 382 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 5: like yeah, ahead of or own household. 383 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: So there's been a couple of theories on this one 384 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: that I think is largely debunked is that this goes 385 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: back to our you know, hunter gatherer yeah, cavement. The 386 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: theory is like, because men would go out to hunt, 387 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: mm hm, we'd be we'd be looking for you know, 388 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: animals moving holding like a bow and arrow or a spear, 389 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: I guess, so you're looking for things that are moving 390 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: out in the land. 391 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 6: Things that are stationary. 392 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, things that are stationary, we're blotting that out. It 393 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: doesn't matter because we're not going after that, you know, 394 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: we're looking for the will to beast or whatever. That's incredible. 395 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: And then people were also saying that, like, uh, men's 396 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: peripheral vision is worse because we're laser focused on what's 397 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: in front of us, which also explains why men will 398 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: get caught looking at you know, pretty woman because the 399 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: woman is you know, us hunk comes by, she can 400 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: just look at the peripherals. It's not gonna be clocked 401 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: versus you know. 402 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 403 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: Do I think that's true? Probably not, But it's a 404 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: clever idea that someone came up with. 405 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 9: Yeah. 406 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: I want to look at some you know, proper studies 407 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: on you know, object location memory and see if there's 408 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: any credence to this. Maybe there is a gender difference 409 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: going on biologically, and I want to find out if 410 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: there's a way we can combat this and reverse the cursor, 411 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: maybe get better. Can we do better for our wives? 412 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, out there who are just desperately in need of help. 413 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's that's what we'll do. 414 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 6: After the break. 415 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: All right, we are back I'm Annie, I'm Noah Devin. 416 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: So I set out to find out why men are 417 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: worse than women at finding things in their own home. 418 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: I looked into a lot of research over the decades, 419 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: and I spoke to a man who co authored a 420 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: meta analysis on gender differences in object location memory. Oh, 421 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: so seems like maybe an answer, yeah exists. 422 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 9: I'm Albert Posma. I'm professor in europe psychology in Utrecht 423 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 9: University in the Netherlands, and my research is in the 424 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 9: so called memory and space lab. So we study how 425 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 9: human memory works and also spatial memory works, and also 426 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 9: how it can fail, what can go wrong. 427 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: So this paper of his was published in two thousand 428 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: and seven. It looked at dozens of different studies to 429 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: see how gender impacts object location memory. So I asked 430 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: what a typical experiment looks like for this sort of thing. 431 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: But first, we're going to do it right now ourselves 432 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: a little surprise. 433 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 6: Dude, did you hide some surprise experiment? 434 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: So a classical one is a sheet of paper with 435 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: a number of drawings of objects on it. 436 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 6: I feel like this is like the Trump presidential test. 437 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, basically, amster dog, You've got to remember. 438 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: It you study it for a time, and then you 439 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: get a second sheet of paper and you have to 440 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: mark which drawings have moved positions, put it cross through 441 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: any items that are new. Ready, oh go. 442 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 5: So I also if there's on location, I'm looking to 443 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 5: my dumb as I have been thinking about. 444 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 6: What the exs you actually are are. 445 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: There's also versions of this on a computer where you 446 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: have to place the objects back to their original place. 447 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: And there's natural environment tests where you study a room 448 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: and have to memorize the object locations in a similar fashion. 449 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: So that's more realistic to kind of what we're actually 450 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: talking about, where you would kind of have a room 451 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: set up, kind of like an I spy. Yeah, we 452 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 1: put it to the test. My wife and I did 453 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: it this morning, and now it's your return. 454 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 6: And I'm looking at mine. 455 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm not looking at shit. I'm looking at my paper, 456 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:14,719 Speaker 1: all right and time. As for the results of our 457 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: budget version of the experiment, Devin and many actually overperformed 458 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: for men. Congrats boys. If you want to take the 459 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: test yourself or just see what it looks like, you 460 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: can check out our newsletter in the show notes below. 461 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:35,479 Speaker 1: Now let's get to the actual science. So having done this, 462 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: I want to know kind of what are the actual 463 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 1: outcomes in the studies, the ones that have done this 464 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: more professionally than we have here are men worse than 465 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: women at finding things? So first, doctor Postma made a 466 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: caveat that often these differences are over exaggerated. There are 467 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: more similarities than differences. But while men are better at 468 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: some spatial cognition tests like being able to do mental 469 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: rotation of objects, women have shown to be better overall 470 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: at tests of object location memory. Because there's so many 471 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: different factors that make it hard to pin down, but 472 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: there is kind of a measurable effect size difference for 473 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: this one and kind of overall in this meta analysis 474 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: they did, there is a mean way to effect size 475 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: in favor of women of zero point two sixty nine 476 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: across the eighty six total effects sizes. So, by and large, 477 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: women do show superiority in object location memory. 478 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 6: Wow. 479 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, the rumors are true. They're just better validated. I 480 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: was hoping that would be like a percentage, it's not. Yeah. 481 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: And then there's also all this stuff once you kind 482 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: of get into the fine prints of like if it's 483 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: masculine coded objects, men are better versus feminine coded ones 484 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: and neutral, which is funny. 485 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 6: You know what's funny. 486 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 5: I think I connected with some of the what people 487 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 5: say that feminine code because I was like ironing board. 488 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 6: I know's I love ironing boards. I remember where that 489 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 6: is my tea. 490 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 5: I got two different teapots, so I know exactly where 491 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 5: those were there, you go, I knew where the flowers were. 492 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. 493 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 6: None in the maskless stuff stood out to me. 494 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 4: I misplaced the dumbo. Yeah, I need to hit the gym. 495 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: But I ask why he thinks this is so. Some 496 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: of the thoughts behind this are exposure. So if you 497 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: do these exercises like searching for ketchup in the fridge, 498 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: you'll get better at it. And others expectations. 499 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: And I know there have been studies that if you 500 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: label them as a spatial cognition test, you get larger 501 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: differences between men and women. Then if you don't label them, 502 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: it could be that that women think, oh, this is 503 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 2: spatial thinking, I'm not good in this. Then they do 504 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: slightly worse than men. 505 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: And then still there might be some hardwiring due to 506 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: the fact that effect sizes remain stable over many studies 507 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: over decades. And here's another note which explains some other 508 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: studies that show men are better at navigating space, so 509 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: like using roadmap, et cetera. So this is doctor Postma 510 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: talking about relative location versus exact location. 511 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 2: So women are slightly better in memorizing where things are. 512 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 2: One important reason, if I can explain this, could be 513 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: that in memorizing the locations of objects, it often is 514 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 2: not the exact position that's so important, but it's the 515 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 2: global position that's important. You can try to memorize where 516 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 2: you've left your headphones. They could be on the table, 517 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 2: but the exact position on the table is not that important. 518 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:47,719 Speaker 2: It's the relative location. So it's knowing in which container 519 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: location items can be found that's enough. 520 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: In the studies say this where men will be better 521 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: at being like, Okay, I know that mug moved six 522 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: inches over that way, but women are better at knowing okay, 523 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: the mug is to the left of the pot or whatever. 524 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: So those relative things versus like precision, Yeah, which is interesting. 525 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 4: Which like to be fairer to women. The precision thing 526 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 4: is way less important. 527 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: Well yeah it doesn't like it doesn't help me, yeah 528 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: at all. If you're practicing these things by going into 529 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: the cabinets or the fridge, et cetera. Naturally you're gonna 530 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,719 Speaker 1: need to know where items are. So if women are 531 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: typically cooking more, then they're going to be navigating those 532 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: items much more than someone who isn't. And maybe the 533 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: man is going to be better at finding the tools 534 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: in the garage. 535 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 6: You know. 536 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's just the roles that you're playing, Yeah, 537 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: and it makes sense, you know, and all these things. 538 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: Of course, the studies say like it changes by population 539 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: and individual. I'm always kind of hesitant to even do 540 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: episodes like this because it is like, yeah, men be 541 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: like this, and you know women aren't. You know, women 542 00:25:55,520 --> 00:26:00,239 Speaker 1: know where the spices are yea. But that said they do, 543 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: err yeah yeah. And then going into that kind of 544 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: idea of is there a hardwired difference? You know, we 545 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: mentioned the intro, there's theories that this goes back to 546 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: hunter gatherer days, that sort of stuff, where maybe there 547 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: is an eventually some sort of genetic position. Yeah, so 548 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: I asked about that, and that comes up in the 549 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: studies too, where people do have this theory and they're 550 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: actually looking into it. 551 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 6: You know. 552 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,239 Speaker 1: Of course, it is impossible to do an experiment on 553 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: this given we don't have time machines. 554 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 2: I like the basic idea that there was some deficion 555 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 2: of labor in or ancestor societies and over many generations 556 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 2: that could be have led to a sort of hard 557 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: to wire difference in the brains. But again, most of 558 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 2: I think is that there was joined labor in many things. 559 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: So men have to gather also vegetables that could be eaten, 560 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: and women also had to do loom, distance estimations or 561 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 2: certain things. So again it could be a small driving force, 562 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 2: but not too much. 563 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: It's not as black and white as like men never 564 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: had to look for things that were still you know, 565 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: advice versa. Yeah, so it would be a very lazy 566 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: excuse for me to say. 567 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 6: That's why I can't back in the day, What do. 568 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: You expect me to do? I'm out walking around the 569 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: world and hunting. You know. Always important to note that. 570 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 6: So we can't completely discount it. 571 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like totally garbage, but you know, you 572 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: can't necessarily wait it so heavily because we can't prove it. 573 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 6: You know. 574 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: It's more like here's maybe a possible factor into it, 575 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: along with current environmental things and all that. Just like 576 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: roles that we have in our own house or outside 577 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: of it. That sort of thing makes sense. Yeah, and 578 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: then I ask, you know, how can we improve Believe 579 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: it or not, there's no simple It's a matter of 580 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: being intentional and systematic. So if you don't have some 581 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: organizational system, or we don't have one that you know yet, 582 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: you should learn it. So okay, you write spices on 583 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: the left, green spaces on the right, et cetera. And 584 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: just being intentional when you put things back or take 585 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: the things, and it's basically just practice and eventually you 586 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: will learn this. 587 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 588 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 5: Like, for example, if you say you're in a kitchen 589 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 5: and you're like, all right, this is where we put 590 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 5: all the appliances. So then the only thing you need 591 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 5: to remember is if there's an appliance, it's going to 592 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 5: be in this general area. 593 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 594 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 6: You don't need to know the exact location of it. Yeah. 595 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 5: So if you have a blender, maybe you don't put 596 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 5: it with the beans. 597 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Yeah, you know when we talk about it 598 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: like this, exactly, it is common sense. 599 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 4: It's the thing too where like all right, So for 600 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 4: this experiment, we were asked to intentionally put some effort 601 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 4: in remembering where these things were and then at the 602 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 4: end we did pretty well and remembering where they were. 603 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 4: And that's essentially what a lot of women are asking 604 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 4: their partners to do, which is just to put some 605 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 4: effort into it. Yeah, it's not a biological disadvantage that 606 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 4: we have. It's really about like, okay, if you look 607 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 4: at this for one minute. 608 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: Really think about it, and we can do better. That said, 609 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: I knew what the experiment was going into it, and 610 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: still when I was staring at the that first page 611 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: trying to memorize, I was like, I cannot I know, 612 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't like us, and you know, I was just nervous. 613 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: And then I get to page two, I was like, 614 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: no clue. All right, folks, that's the end of the 615 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: main show. We're always trying new things out here at 616 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: NST Headquarters. 617 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 6: So stick around after the. 618 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: Break to hear a bonus hot take from Devin. 619 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 5: So my hot take, and this happened to me. I'm 620 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 5: not just talking about it, I'm about that life. 621 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 6: Okay. I went to Caba last week. Love Cava. 622 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: Tell the people what is tava? 623 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 5: Is Mediterranean bowl similar to everybody calls it Chipotle of 624 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 5: blah blah blah. It's Mediterranean bowls. You make your own 625 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 5: bowl delicious. They give you a lot of food, good portions, A. 626 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 6: Great lunch option. Uh, if you work out a corporate job. 627 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 5: And I was eating my bowl delicious bowl and it 628 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 5: was a long piece of hair in it. Oh, my 629 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 5: hot takes. Is not that big a deal to have 630 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 5: hair in your food? Yeah, I almost people get hairing 631 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 5: the food and they want to burn the restaurant down. 632 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's hair. 633 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 5: It's not I get it's a little bit roast, especially 634 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 5: if you don't see it ahead of time and it's 635 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 5: in your mouth and you're like, oh, this is someone 636 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 5: else's hair. 637 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 6: It was long. 638 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 5: It was a long I knew first of all. And 639 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 5: it wasn't my hair. Yeah, the very distinct you know. 640 00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 5: It was a straight blonde piece of hair, and it 641 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 5: was like it was in there good, you know, like 642 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 5: it got mixed in it was it was curled up nicely, 643 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 5: and I just took it aside and continued. 644 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: How far into your meal were you This was towards 645 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: the end. Yeah, so you might have been chopping. 646 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 5: Oh I could have been. They could have been a mouthful. 647 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 5: It wasn't like I saw it on top and stopped 648 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 5: I was in there. I may have eaten some here already. 649 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 5: But my thing is like, it's not that big of 650 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 5: a deal. And I think people get upset about it 651 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 5: because it reminds them that someone else made their food, 652 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 5: you know. 653 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 6: I think people don't like the idea. 654 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 5: They like the idea of the food being in front 655 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 5: of them, right, they like the idea of the food 656 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 5: being made fresh, and they like of not having to 657 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 5: make that food. I think the hair is a reminder 658 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 5: that someone else had to do labor interesting to make 659 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 5: your food. 660 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 6: Wow. 661 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 5: And because I don't think it's that if there was 662 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 5: a piece of hair that got into your mouth just randomly, 663 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 5: you wouldn't react in the same way that you do 664 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 5: that as oh yeah when it's in your food. 665 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 4: Well, I certainly think people behave out of character when 666 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,719 Speaker 4: it comes to like food service. People like yeah, especially 667 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 4: a fast casual. Yeah, like they're kind of people think 668 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 4: they're kind of below them. 669 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 6: Yeah. 670 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: Remember the Chipotle saw people then going filming the Chipotle 671 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: things so they'd get bigger portions. Yeah yeah, yeah, the 672 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: saddest people in the world. And you know, I used 673 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: to be. 674 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 4: A food service worker, thank you. 675 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: Yea, And yeah I used to get like people. 676 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 4: Who would come in and just like find anything to 677 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 4: complain about to either get a discount or in many 678 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 4: cases weren't even looking for a discount, just like needed someone. 679 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 6: To yell at beat the outlet for today. 680 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I could see that. I could see that. 681 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 4: I think when I find hair in my and my food, 682 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 4: I think there's a good argument, like if you wanted 683 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 4: to be like, hey I found you go up to them, Hey, 684 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 4: I found some hair in my foe? 685 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: Can I get a new one? 686 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 6: I don't think it's I think that's fair to fair. 687 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 4: But the reason I'm not doing that is largely out 688 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 4: of convenience. 689 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: I think I just can be fucking It doesn't disturb Yeah, 690 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: to your point, it doesn't disturb me that much anyway. Yeah, 691 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: if it was like, Okay, I'm noticing now there's multiple here, 692 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: like it seems like there's really something going on, but like, yeah, 693 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: it's an honest mistake. It's not even a mistake. 694 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just that's what happened on your head. On 695 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 5: your head, it falls off sometimes that's it. Yesterday I 696 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 5: was watching a video where this guy had he went 697 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 5: to some place and got like some pancakes with some syrup, 698 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 5: and he opens up his container when he gets home 699 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 5: and there's literally bugs scroll around. 700 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 4: Okay, in this instance fair multiple bugs skip. 701 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: That local franchise and go straight to corporate. 702 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 6: At that point. 703 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 5: The funny thing is he took it back and the 704 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 5: lady was like, what do you want me to do 705 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 5: about it? 706 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 6: You want me to make you another one. 707 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 5: He's like, I don't want another one. 708 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 6: Give me my money back. 709 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: I think you should shut the whole place so. 710 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 6: That you know that is fair if you're being nagliged. 711 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: Hit, Yeah, something is actually dirty, you know, obviously bugs. 712 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 6: If there's a bug in my food, all right. 713 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 5: That's kind of a problem. Yeah, you put a band 714 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 5: aid in my food, all right? Come on, that's kind 715 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 5: of a problem. 716 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 6: Yellow piece of hair. 717 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 4: Even with the hair, like the hair, I'm truly not 718 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 4: that bothered by it is of course more disturbing when 719 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 4: you when you're pulling out when you have already consumed. 720 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and it's like, oh that's rough. 721 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 4: It kind of can't even eat the rest of the 722 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 4: bowl because I think there's more hair in there. 723 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 6: I just not me. 724 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm turned off. 725 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 6: Couldn't be me, I mean that thing. 726 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 5: I mean it more now I might go get seconds 727 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 5: finished the whole thing, like, hey, there was some hearing that, 728 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 5: so I'm going. 729 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: That was delicious. 730 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 6: You know whose hair was that? Yeah? You know. You 731 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 6: come in and they do those like pranks like who 732 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 6: made this great job? Whose hair is this? 733 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: No such thing as a production of collot dam No 734 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: such thing as a production of kaleidoscope content. Our executive 735 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: producers are Kate Osborne and man Gesh hot Tikidur. The 736 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: show is created by Manny Fidel, Noah Friedman, That's me 737 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: and Devin Joseph. The man credit song by Manny. Mixing 738 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: is by Steve Bone. Additional reporting by Lauren Wilson. 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