WEBVTT - Why Are So Many Disembodied Feet Washing Ashore In British Columbia? 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:04.240 Welcome to you stuff you should know fromhouse stuff works 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:13.360 dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:16.200 There's Charles to Be, Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry over there, 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:20.439 And there are six feet in this studio right now, 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:23.000 and all of them are exactly where they're supposed to 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:29.440 be attached to their lowered legs. Yeah, below the calf, Yeah, yep, 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:33.800 above the floor, facing forward to you, right. Yeah, that's 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:36.479 a big one too, because if it's facing backwards, you've 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:39.120 got problems or you're just going the wrong way all 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:44.000 day long, maybe some Um do you know where they're 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:49.080 not supposed to be Chuck feet? Uh, well, they're not 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.240 supposed to be on the armrest of the seat in 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:55.120 front of you on an airplane, yes, or a movie 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.920 theater yes, But I know you're not talking about common courtesies. 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:02.480 That bug me. No, but I agree with you wholeheartedly. 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:06.160 That is so wrong. And um, I meant to tell you, 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:09.919 I'm on, I've come over to your side about taking 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:12.959 shoes off on the plane. It's okay if I do it, 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.920 but um, you mean and I were flying somewhere and 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:20.959 this dude behind his head, nasty stinky feet, and he 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:24.479 had his shoes off, and like we're facing forward and 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.400 we could smell his feet but low our seats behind us. 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:30.039 And I kept turning around giving him the dirtiest looks, 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:31.640 and he was like, you had no idea what I 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:33.880 was doing. Did you look at his feet and then 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:36.720 and he still didn't get it? Did you look at 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:39.440 his feet his face and then clamp your head. I 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.000 think that still didn't work. I threw up a little 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:47.000 bit onto him. He just thought it was Yeah. I know. 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.840 People disagree with me. People wrote in We're like, what's 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:51.680 it to you? I thought it was to eat your 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:58.480 own to eat your own chuck. Yeah, yeah, all right, 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:00.760 So I'll tell you a place where feet aren't supposed 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:03.080 to be. They're not supposed to be off on their own, 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:09.640 on a beach somewhere, not attached to a body exactly. No, No, 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:13.560 that's not something that you see every day, No, unless 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.880 you're in Vancouver, and then it happens like almost every day. 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.960 It seems like not quite, but sure, there's something very 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:22.920 weird going on in Vancouver. You say there's no mystery. 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:24.640 I said, there's still a bit of a mystery to it. 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:28.120 But well, well, we'll start at the beginning. Okay, August 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.440 two thousand seven. It's kind of a cool and drizzly 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:35.560 day at a place called Jedediah Island Provincial Park up 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:42.080 in British Columbia, right near Vancouver, right lovely. Sure, of course, 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:44.840 that's why you would want to say, like go park 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:47.359 or camp at this park with your family, which is 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:48.679 what a twelve year old girl was you. And I I 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.040 couldn't find this girl's name to save my life, probably 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:54.200 because she's twelve. She wouldn't be good to say it. Anyway, 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.760 she was sure. She was walking along the beach with 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:59.880 her dad, and um, there was a bunch of like 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.440 flots them, you know, that's the term for stuff that 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.640 washes up from the sea, that the sea spits up 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:09.400 onto the shores. And um, she saw a shoe and 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.240 she picked it up, and she untied it and turned 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:15.000 it upside down and out fell a sock, and inside 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:19.400 the sock was a human foot yep, and she was 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:25.680 pretty surprised, size twelve. Yeah, it was a campus brand shoe, 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:31.200 which h ended up being not neither here nor there, 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:36.880 but it is manufactured in India, mostly sold in India. Um, 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.200 and we'll just park that right there for now. Yeah. 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:43.160 So the families like this is unusual. Sure. Uh. They 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:46.120 borrowed a radio from somebody else and they alerted the authorities, 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.040 and in very short order, the Mounties showed up, the 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.760 coroner showed up, the coast guards showed up. I bet 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.600 the Mounties were all over that foot. Um. So yeah, 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:57.280 they said, you know what, well, we're gonna take that 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:00.680 foot is if that's okay little girl, And she, through 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:03.680 her sobbing tears, said sure, but just give me a 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:07.200 little money, okay. Uh. And they said we're gonna send 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:11.560 it off for DNA examination, and um that did that 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:14.440 return nothing the DNA as far as I know, Yeah, 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.600 there was no there's no match. So that wasn't like 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.080 a clue the d NA. No, but it was the 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.560 first thing they tried the DNA. They also looked at 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:25.440 it to see what was going on with the foot 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:27.520 if if there was any kind of signs of what 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.280 the deal was. Yeah, they held it up to their 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.680 ear and pretended like it was a telephone. And one 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:33.919 of the other mount he said, that's not funny. But 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.280 they're like, oh, it is kind of funny, and they 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:42.000 said sorry. So um, they didn't. They just kind of 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.120 filed it away. It actually didn't make much of a 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.720 stir outside of the area. It was worth talking about. 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:49.359 It got a little bit in because it was just 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:52.480 so weird. But they put the foot away and at 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.440 the coroner's office and everybody went about their lives, right, 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:00.160 I would assume so. And then six days later, other 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:02.840 foot showed up in the area, not the same place, 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:05.680 but in the same in the same general area, another 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.720 right foot, which means it wasn't for the person's other foot. 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.600 Now that'd be weird. So there's two people missing feet. Now. Yes, 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.640 this is a men's Reebok size eleven, I think. And 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.400 the people who found it said that when they saw it, 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:19.440 they immediately knew that there was a foot in there 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.599 because it looked full. It looks pretty how they is 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:25.760 how they put it full of foot? Yeah, And they 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:27.760 picked it up and smelled it and they're like, yeah, 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.560 it's a foot, that's right. And the mountains came in 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.560 again and they got off their horses and uh, Corporal 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.679 Gary Cox said, you know, it is a little weird 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:40.880 to find two feet, especially within six days of one another. Yeah, 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.839 in the same area. It was Um, he described it 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:45.400 as a million to one odds. I don't think he 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.480 did the science on that, but it's just something you say. 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:51.520 But he said too is pretty crazy, Yeah, and I 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:54.320 agree with him. Yeah. So the first foot was in 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.960 on Jedediah Island. The second ones on Gabriela Island, which 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:00.479 is I couldn't find exactly how far away it was 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:03.880 across the water, but it's it's not that far. They're close, 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:08.880 but they're separated by some water. Um, and they're now 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:11.080 all of a sudden, there's two feet that were found 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:14.520 within six days. The media starts to catch drift of 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:18.680 this one. Right, there's feet uh shoe defeat washing up 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:22.800 on the shores in Vancouver. And at the time, at 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:26.400 that very time, UM, Robert Picton was on trial in 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:30.680 Vancouver for um murdering as many as forty nine women. 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.240 You've heard to him, right, I think so. He was 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:37.280 the notorious pig farmer who would like butcher women and 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.599 feed them to his pigs, and then butcher's pigs and 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:43.080 feed pigs to his guests. Yeah. One of the only 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:46.840 probably Canadian serial killers, right, Yeah, and one of the 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:50.279 worst of all serial killers. He was a horrible horrible 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:53.520 person because he wasn't crazy, you know what I mean, 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:57.440 he was just a just a horrible person. Um. And 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.880 so he's on trial at that time, got I think 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.200 twenty five years, which is like the maximum sentence you 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:08.960 can get in Canada, what come on Canada years for 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:13.600 for up to forty nine horrible murders. Um. So he 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:15.880 was on trial. There are also a lot of like 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:20.000 really high profile missing people in the area too, that 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:22.760 it just vanished without a trace in the four years 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:24.960 leading up to that. Yeah, and you point out because 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:28.080 you wrote this, I did, But actually I was pointing 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:32.920 out that Christopher Solomon pointed something. Okay, well the point is, uh, 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:34.840 and this is a little strange, but maybe not. I 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:36.120 don't know. I was trying to make sense of it. 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:39.520 British Columbia apparently just has a higher than normal rate 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:44.960 of missing persons than other parts of the world, which 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:48.400 is weird. Yeah, but I mean like a lot more, yeah, 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:53.360 more than people over a fifty nine year period. And uh. 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.080 Solomon compared that to Kentucky, which is about the same 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:01.120 size and population or same size population, they only had 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.840 five and fifteen people missing over that fifty nine years. 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.640 That seemed really low to med eight people a year 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:12.040 missing in the whole state like that remained missing, Okay, 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:15.320 unsolved forever, yes, because in Kentucky they'll just be like 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:18.560 he was Uncle Billy's on the road for a week, 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:22.680 right exactly. So like the the the idea is that 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:27.240 BC has almost five times the number of unsolved missing 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.880 persons cases over this fifty nine period compared to Kentucky, 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.600 which has about the same size population. It's a lot more. Yeah, 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.319 And I mean Solomon might have gone in and selected like, oh, 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:38.160 Kentucky's got the lowest of the same size population, so 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:40.480 that will really point it out. But it does seem 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:45.319 that BC has a large amount of missing persons now, uh, 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.120 I bet it has something to do with the terrain 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:52.960 and the wildlife, probably the abundance of water. Probably that too. 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:57.040 It's not a good good thing. A lot of heroin, yeah, 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:01.560 you know, sadly and probably go missing, you know. In 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:04.880 addition to the serial killer theory, one of them was 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.440 that these were like people who would either run a 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:13.079 foul of the local organized crime syndicates or um ran 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:18.359 a foul of like a fellow heroin organized crime exactly disorganized. 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:22.840 Remember that movie what movie Disorganized Crime? Was that a 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:26.760 movie with Who's the the Dude the Blonde Dude from 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:32.880 l A. Law Corton Burnson. Yes, it's actually a good movie. Really, 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.360 I haven't seen Mark in a couple of decades. Hey, 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.800 Summer School is one of the all time greats. Man, 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.440 it sounds like that kind of movie Disorganized Crime, like 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:43.920 a bunch of bumbling at criminals. Definitely, But I think 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:48.080 like or Fred Gwynn was in it, Herman Munster, one 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:53.520 of his last roles. All right, so you talked about theories. 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:57.800 One of the other theories, remember we mentioned India manufactured 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.760 that first shoe. Some people said, you know what, this is, 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:06.760 sadly just feat of tsunami survivors from the Indian Ocean 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:12.400 disaster December two thousand four, and they just years later 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.360 these like body parts are washing up on shore, which 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:17.960 is sort of plausible. It is. I mean, two fifty 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:22.720 people died in that tsunami, A lot, if not most 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:26.120 of them were never found. Yeah. Also we had people 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.880 point out remember when we said that modern disaster flicks 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.440 are bad. Uh, we had a bunch of people right 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.839 in say The Impossible it was a great movie. That's 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:37.960 the one about Yeah, and it was great, it was awesome. 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:41.040 But I think that's different because that was a uh 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:45.599 factual Uh, it's about a factual event. But and I 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.840 categorize it as a disaster now. See, I don't categorize 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:50.760 it as that because it was a real thing that happened. 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.480 Like disaster flicks to me are when you know, when 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:55.839 you invent some crazy disaster. Well okay, well let me 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:58.160 ask you this. If it were totally fictionalized but the 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.520 exact same movie, would you then can considered as a 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.920 disaster flick? Yes, okay, so it's like on that scale 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.520 and everything too. I had the impression it was much 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.280 more just like a human interest. Well it became that. 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:14.880 But they sho film the tsunami like it's it's not 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:21.319 amazing how realistic. It is. Very very tough movie, very 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:23.880 hard to watch. Have you seen Twelve Years of Slave yet? 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.840 I still cannot bring myself to watch that. It's pretty rough. 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.959 It's just staring at me on my DVR every night. 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:33.960 I'm gona it'll be soon. I'll let you know. Okay, 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:39.240 I'll just come into work crying. Okay, what did I do? Alright? 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.840 So the tsunami disaster they said, um, might have been 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:46.240 one of the reasons. But um, I think other people said, 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:50.199 you know, maybe that's not the best explanation. Other people said, well, 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:52.679 a lot of people just go missing from other things, 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:56.240 like planes go down in the Salish Sea, which is 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.800 the body of water between I think Vancouver Island and 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:01.440 mainland British columb to you, which is where most of 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.920 these were found? Is it Sailish? I think so, But 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.600 we'll hear from Canadians one way or the other. You 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:10.160 say Sailish, I say Salish. Who's right? Really? You know? 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.440 All right, well, let's we're getting all excited here with 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.320 these theories. But there were more feet to come, and 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:37.080 we'll get back to those feet right after this, So chuck. 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.920 The When those first two feet were found within six days, 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:41.760 made the rounds, people talked about it, and then it 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:43.840 just kind of drifted out of the news, right like 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:48.240 a foot in the ocean exactly. Um. And then a 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:52.839 third foot was found, and it came roaring back because 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.880 this is yet another foot, a totally different one. This 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:59.200 is a woman's foot actually a new balance size seven 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:05.760 I think, and Kirkland Island, same general area right right, 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.680 the same forty mile stretch along that coastal area. And 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:14.840 this is within ten months now five ft four people. Yeah, so, um, 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:17.880 the the other new balanced sneaker was found. That was 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:21.120 the fifth foot found. And then in between the Yeah, 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.800 they matched the foot to the you know, I don't 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:25.360 know if that's good or bad, but they found the 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:27.960 guy's other foot, right, the the woman that was the 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.160 woman that they they found her two ft yes, so 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:33.720 her feet were number three and number five to turn up. 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:37.440 And then in between an entirely different person's foot turned up, 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:41.559 men's like size eleven Nike, I think so. Yeah, within 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:45.720 within a ten month period, there were five feet belonging 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:49.120 to four different people that turned up on this little stretch. 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.240 That's right, that's significant. Then there was a six foot 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:57.680 the next August. This was in actually in Washington, so 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.560 I guess it had its h hey as in order 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:03.920 and made its way to the States. And so, like 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:07.280 you said, if you're following the story at home as 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.120 it's going on, you're starting to think, like, if I 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.439 go to the beach, I'm going to see a foot today. 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.439 And a lot of people did do that. A lot 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:18.760 of people around British Columbias started looking for disembodied feet. 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.560 They were turning up so frequently and I misspoke, you 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:25.000 were right. So the seventh foot to turn up was 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.800 the woman's other foot. That's hard to keep track, it 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:32.360 really is. So how many feet in total, sir? I 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:36.120 think the last two were found February of this year. Yeah, 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.120 and they actually belonged to the same person. But they 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:41.400 were found a week or two or so apart. And 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.800 I say last, I mean most recent. I'm sure more 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.000 feet will come. It seems that way because between so 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.520 the first foot was found in August two thousand and seven, 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:52.840 these most recent feet were found in February two thousand sixteen. 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:58.120 That total seventeen disembodied feet found within a hundred and 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:04.120 fifty miles stretch between Tacoma, Washington and British Columbia. That's unusual, 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:09.000 it seems like it, and there's a lot of theories, 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.680 but no one can say definitively here's what's going on, 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.160 right uh, And I know we're making a lot of jokes. 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.160 I realized these feet belonged to people who are no 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.200 longer with us. I just want to throw that out 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:21.680 there that we do a lot of comedy on this show, 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.200 so we did a coma episode that had jokes. I mean, 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:28.440 come on, I just wanted to see away there. Uh. 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.840 So from the beginning, the cops and the Mounties were 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:36.280 basically like, I don't you know, this seems really fishy. Uh, 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.200 but it's not. We don't think it's murder. We don't 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:41.040 think there's someone out there killing people and chopping their 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:44.240 feet off, which is what a lot of people thought. Yeah. 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.600 But and notably because their feet weren't cut off, and 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:50.560 you can tell right they were, They said that they 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:54.480 were naturally disarticulated, right, that's right. Um. So that first 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:57.920 foot that that girl found on Jedediah Island was identified 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.280 pretty quickly because the cops released a pick sure of 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:02.640 the shoe to the media. And remember it was a 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.800 Campus brand which has made in India, sold mostly in India. 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:10.160 And so the guy whose foot it was, his family 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:14.240 saw it on the news and identified him as somebody 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:18.200 who he was a longtime suffer of depression and he 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.680 was in a depressed state when his family last saw him. 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.200 So the cops came to the logical conclusion that he 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:27.240 had killed himself. So foot number one has been matched 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:31.000 to a missing person case. Clothes right, that's right. Uh. 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:35.080 So then the new balance shoes turned up on separate islands. Uh, 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:38.840 this is the woman and she was identified as a 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:43.520 lady who also was suffering from depression and jumped off 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:46.960 a bridge. I think they knew this for sure. Yes, 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.680 that's where the woman was last seen, was jumping off 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.680 a bridge. Yeah, this has been four years previous. So 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.960 now they're starting to get a pattern here where all right, 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.960 there was another man to the one on Valdi's Island 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:04.560 feet three and five. Uh, they determined either suicide or accident. 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:08.760 And then another couple of people who were accidentally killed. 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.680 And so they see this pattern now, all right, these 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:15.040 are people that just happened to die or die by 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:18.680 their own hand, um near enough to the water where 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:24.280 their feet were there. Yes, I'm just being vague for now, right, Yeah. 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:26.640 But the weird thing is is now, all of a sudden, 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:30.119 in a very short period of time, relatively short period 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:32.240 of time. Um, I mean because one of these guys 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.760 whose feet turned up was last seen after his boat 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:38.520 turned over. So in a very short period of time, 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:41.360 all these people who died at very different periods of time, 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.040 suddenly their feet were starting to turn up in this 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:50.040 area around the stylish sailorsh Sea. Yes, um and the 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.000 cops had a I guess, kind of a pretty good 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:56.239 idea from the outset. But to understand what was going on, 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:58.240 or at least what the cops say was going on, 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:02.320 you have to understand what happened to a UM. A 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:06.280 person who dies in the water. You think that people float, 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:09.960 you know, yeah, you kind of think that because in 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:11.600 movies that you know, if you're trying to get rid 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.040 of a body in the water, you always you know, 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.920 ty cement blocks to a submit shoes is the old joke. 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:21.200 You know, somebody turned up like that in New York recently, 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:25.040 like with submit shoes, not too many movies. But the 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.280 idea is that you have to weight the body down. 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:29.159 And I suppose if you were going to get rid 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:30.840 of a body that I'd probably do the same thing, 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.480 just out of you know, just cover my basis, just 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.320 to be sure. Well, the thing is, if you do 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:39.800 you cebment shoes on a person, you should never do that, 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:43.080 you know. But if you did, um, what you're doing 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:46.680 is you're not ensuring that they sink, right, then you're 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:49.840 ensuring that they don't come back up because that's what happens. 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:53.680 That's right, body that has gone unconscious or has drowned 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:58.639 and died, Um sinks pretty quickly. And it it usually 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:00.760 sinks so quick that if you are looking for a 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:04.520 drowning victim, you you should look on the bottom pretty 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:06.920 close to where they were last seen on the surface. 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:11.320 They sink that fast. Man. So a body sinks, um, 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.560 and it will sink faster and fresh water than saltwater 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:19.960 because saltwaters makes humans a little more buoyant. Um. I 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.520 guess overweight people, people with a lot of fat on 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:28.240 their bodies sink uh more slowly than people who are leaner. Um. 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:32.720 And then depending on the water temperature as well, um, 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:35.760 and how deep the water is, they'll sink faster and 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:37.919 faster as they get to the bottom. Yea. And depending 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:40.520 on what you're wearing, yeah, like a code or shoes 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:44.119 or something like that, or a backpack. It's it's definitely 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:46.760 gonna pull you down. But the point is once you 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:50.880 go under, once you submerge and you're dead or you're dying, Um, 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:54.000 you're gonna sink pretty quick. Yeah, there's more pressure to 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.359 the deeper you get in the body of water. Uh. 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:59.040 You mentioned the temperature was lower, but there's also more pressure. 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:01.240 That compressed is the air in your body, and that's 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:05.200 gonna make you less floaty as well. So the thing 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:08.160 the cool air or the cool temperature does down there 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:11.680 is it uh kind of preserves you for a little while, 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:17.880 longer than ordinarily because um, the bacteria that will eventually 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:21.240 consume your body or just gonna be slower do so 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:25.400 they just move more slowly. But that bacteria is eventually 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:29.520 gonna overcome the sinking of the body because your body 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.240 is an enclosed system generally roughly, I mean, you've got 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:35.760 a mouth and all that, you know, But as they're eating, 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:40.840 they're putting out as a waste product, um, gases like 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:45.040 methane and stuff like that. UM, and your body traps 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:50.520 that stuff and it begins to bloat. And I'm everyone 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:54.160 knows that once you bloat, you float. That's right, that's 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:58.040 the forensics bumper sticker. Yeah, eventually you're going to rise 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.760 to the top like a dirigible because those gases that 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:05.000 are trapped in your body or like like a submarine. 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:09.520 I guess do you mean they keep going into the 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:13.800 air like you float off and then your foot will 0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:16.840 be found on the moon later. Uh, yeah, you're gonna float. 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:19.880 And that's why whenever they people discover like a dead 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:22.920 body in a lake much later, it's you know, it's 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:26.199 not a pretty thing. They're they're bloated and and puffed 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:32.160 out and decomposed. It's not pretty. But if you are UM, 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:35.720 if you're trapped, say like in a vehicle or something 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:39.400 like that, and all of this takes place, UM, eventually 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:42.080 your your body is going to be prevented from floating 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:46.199 away and it will eventually rupture. And once the rupture happens, 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:50.439 all that gas and the um, the buoyancy that's created 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:53.720 by it is all released, and you're staying there. You're 0:21:53.720 --> 0:21:57.400 staying there. And I read this article about UM. Did 0:21:57.440 --> 0:22:00.480 you read the article about the Oklahoma guy? Huh? Yeah, 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:04.919 it was really weird. Is so like the guy? There 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:07.439 was a guy who was um, whose brother went missing 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:10.840 in his Camaro and I think like nineteen seventy and 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:14.720 he um, he just never knew what happened to him, 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:17.600 and he used this boat ramp on this place called 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:20.760 Fosse Lake, and he found out later when the cops 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:24.840 accidentally discovered the car that his brother had been submerged in. 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:27.320 Just twelve feet of water for forty years. All those 0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:30.480 times he was back in his boat into False Lake. 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:34.359 His brother was right below him, and they found him accidentally. 0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:36.560 And then they found another car that had gone missing 0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:39.639 I think the year before, just a few feet away. 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:42.960 And the moral of the story is that False Lake 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:46.320 is really murky. I mean twelve ft of water, two 0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:49.800 different cars, Camaro, Camaro, and I think like a packer 0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:54.959 or something like that, or buick Man. Unbelievable. Uh all right, 0:22:54.960 --> 0:22:56.840 well let's take another little break here and we'll talk 0:22:56.880 --> 0:22:59.240 a little bit more about what can happen to a 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:03.360 body under water and uh, what's the deal with all 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:26.119 these feet? All right? Uh, just this year there was 0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:30.960