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Speaker 1: Hello Texans fans, and welcome to the program that gets

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Speaker 1: you inside NRG Stadium or outside as is the case,

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Speaker 1: in the mornings eight to ten am, first ten business

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Speaker 1: days of Texans Training Camp of Texas Training Camp Live.

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Speaker 1: But this is Texans All Access and it's Thursday night,

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Speaker 1: which I know I always say Death and Texas. The

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Speaker 1: General's going to show up John mcclaim from the Houston Chronicle,

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Speaker 1: and we'll have some highlights of what the General had

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Speaker 1: to say this morning during our program. If you miss those,

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Speaker 1: you want to stay tuned and hear that. But let's

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Speaker 1: begin with some thoughts on today's practice, as John Harris

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Speaker 1: joins me and Johnny, look, we're all recovering from another

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Speaker 1: hot day of practice and not complaining at all. Not complaining. No,

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Speaker 1: will not do it because you think about what the

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Speaker 1: players are going through. My goodness, I mean to play

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Speaker 1: football now. They say, you know what, it's it's actually

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Speaker 1: better because we're doing stuff, we're doing physical exercise out there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess, so I guess it's better. I guess, you know,

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Speaker 1: with some of the paychecks you guys are getting, I

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Speaker 1: guess it's better. But this is definitely interesting. What they're

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Speaker 1: see how it goes. Because you know, normally this time

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Speaker 1: of year, Johnny, I'd say two weeks from tonight will

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Speaker 1: be within whatever amount of time of the first game,

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Speaker 1: we will not even be forty eight hours away from

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Speaker 1: preseason game one. Two weeks from tonight, that's how long

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Speaker 1: we have to go. And they have to go before

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Speaker 1: they actually meet up with an opponent. That's kind of

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Speaker 1: a long time if you ask me for training camp,

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Speaker 1: and that opponent will be the Green Bay Packers August

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Speaker 1: fourteenths who now have Rainda Cobb, who apparently works for

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Speaker 1: a fortune company. Now, oh, please thank you for bringing

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Speaker 1: that up, because as opposed to the startup he was

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Speaker 1: with so well, look, I get the startup analogy in

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Speaker 1: the sense that the Texans have so many new players

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Speaker 1: and it's it's a new situation here. However, what people

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Speaker 1: are seeing as the headline or a few select phrases,

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Speaker 1: take it out of what Randall Cop had to say.

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Speaker 1: He also said that the Texans have a plan, they're

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Speaker 1: on the right path. He said those things. The headline

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Speaker 1: could have been Cops says Texans on right path Instead

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Speaker 1: let's go with the more negative one. If it bleeds,

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Speaker 1: it leads, And in sports talking I've never heard that before.

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Speaker 1: That pretty good an old one. If no, if it bleeds,

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Speaker 1: it leads. And in sports talk radio, it's if it's

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Speaker 1: not bloody, let's make it bloody because and I made

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Speaker 1: know he said those things, but he also said Texans

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Speaker 1: So I think you can look at it in in a

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Speaker 1: variety of ways, but I get it. People look at

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Speaker 1: the negative and that's just kind of human nature really,

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Speaker 1: not just sports media. Yeah. Look, I mean you're right.

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Speaker 1: I listened to that full like soup the nuts, that

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Speaker 1: full quote, and he spent more time to actually talking

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Speaker 1: which thought was interesting. But I kind of said that

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Speaker 1: have been around since nineteen twenty. They should be a

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Speaker 1: fortune five hundred company. In the Texans, we've talked about us,

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Speaker 1: I mean how many times. I mean, they have so

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Speaker 1: many new players. I mean, there's a reason a lot

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Speaker 1: trying to show that twenty twenty was an aberration. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the number of guys can go through that fit all

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Speaker 1: of grit, you know people that you know, it's gritty,

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Speaker 1: it's tough, it's you know, it's the stuff you get

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Speaker 1: And I think there's a toughness and a mental toughness

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Speaker 1: but I do know that the guys that I watch

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Speaker 1: you a great example of this. I wrote this in

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Speaker 1: It's about two hours into practice. Trod Taylor is eleventh year.

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Speaker 1: I think I think this is eleventh year eleven training camp.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's day to a training camp. They run

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Speaker 1: a bootleg. He very easily can just flip the ball,

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Speaker 1: And I thought about that, and I thought younger players

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Speaker 1: These guys are really kind of minding the p's and

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Speaker 1: not seen a lot of false starts. I haven't seen

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Speaker 1: there've been drops and there've been a couple of fumbles

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Speaker 1: It may not be, you know, throw the ball down

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Speaker 1: Guys who made plays today. And by the way, yes

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Speaker 1: it's Texans all access, and yes Watson was out there.

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Speaker 1: It's a day to day thing. I mean, that's really

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Speaker 1: mean we're just waiting and seeing what, if anything's going

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks did as part of the team unit today, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: because you mentioned the cleanliness of it all, and you know,

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Speaker 1: you put it really well. It looks cleaner than I

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Speaker 1: that says bad things about the defense, But I actually

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Speaker 1: to feel about it. I really would love to see

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to wait till Green Bay to get

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Speaker 1: any kind of indicator. And look, we'll have overreaction either way.

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Speaker 1: If the Texans really look great that night, we'll say,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this team was thirteen and three the Packers.

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Speaker 1: Even if Jordan Love gets the starting Rogers doesn't play

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Speaker 1: oh no, oh no, what's gonna happen? Not we but

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Speaker 1: the media collectively. Whatever. But let's talk about some guys

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Speaker 1: who made place today. In fact, a guy we're gonna

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Speaker 1: to catch up with. Vincent Taylor BT, one of those

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Speaker 1: guys who's hard not to notice out there. Right. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: he made a couple of places today. He had one.

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Speaker 1: You and I are standing next to each other to

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Speaker 1: And he's just a fun guy. But he's also the

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Speaker 1: and look, they don't have pads on, so I get it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but there's some things that you can see with or

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Speaker 1: without pads. And I watched they did one one pass

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Speaker 1: I always whenever they put pads on, I make sure

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Speaker 1: But they've been they've been doing it without pads, and

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Speaker 1: I know people are like, they can't do that. That's

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Speaker 1: ot as you can't make contact. You just have to

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Speaker 1: keep contact to a minimum. Anyways, they're doing one on

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Speaker 1: I can't remember who he's going against. They're kind of

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, kind of a you know, the

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Speaker 1: old school like cartooting. Yeah, I don't know, I don't

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Speaker 1: know how I get it, but something to extent. I mean,

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Speaker 1: be out here for the start of camp and he was.

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Speaker 1: Shows his makeup and also how hard he worked in

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Speaker 1: his rehabilitation. So they have options. That's what you want.

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Speaker 1: You want competition, they call it. I call it options.

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Speaker 1: They got a lot of options at running back. But savious,

432
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Speaker 1: they're gonna have injuries. They got to set a team

433
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Speaker 1: game schedule. To me, now you gotta have three. You

434
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Speaker 1: can't have a David Johnson Duke Johnson, then you throw

435
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Speaker 1: up a white flag. Okay, john either or stud one

436
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Speaker 1: running back Derreck Henry type or running back by committee. Well,

437
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Speaker 1: anybody that wouldn't take Derrick Henry, He's got it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: take their got to be on Pluto or I know,

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Speaker 1: I know, okay, take Derrick Henry, I knew you take there, okay,

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Speaker 1: bad bad example, Ezekiel Elliott or running back by committee

441
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Speaker 1: because now you gotta pay that Ezekiel Elliott. But running

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Speaker 1: back by committee and if Zekie Elliott goes down, what

443
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Speaker 1: do you got? Who's the quarterback? And make also you

444
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Speaker 1: make sure you got good backups like cowboy does Cowboys do.

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Speaker 1: If Zeke Elliott was here, then maybe David Johnson would

446
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Speaker 1: be but they could have Ingram and Philip Lindsay. So, uh,

447
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: I think you always want to stud running back because

448
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 1: he can affect the game in so many different ways.

449
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Speaker 1: But I'm not I think it's good the way the

450
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Speaker 1: Texans have been constructed now. Maybe they would love for

451
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Speaker 1: her David Johnson to have the kind of year he

452
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Speaker 1: had in two thousand and fifteen then, but and if

453
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Speaker 1: he did, he would be the guy all the time

454
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Speaker 1: getting rest, of course. But the way they're gonna do it,

455
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: they got a good power back in Ingram. They got

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Speaker 1: a guy Lindsay who's under size but can run between

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Speaker 1: the tackles upside, and then they got Johnson who can

458
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Speaker 1: run and catch. And then Burkehead who can catch and

459
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Speaker 1: mix in and run every once in a while. I

460
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Speaker 1: don't remember this team having this kind of depth a

461
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Speaker 1: running back. It's a lot to ask to have David

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Speaker 1: Johnson at the kind of year he had his first

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Speaker 1: couple of years in the league. But I don't think

464
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Speaker 1: it's a lot to ask to say, hey, do we

465
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Speaker 1: get did the last three games of last year and

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Speaker 1: then have Philip Lindsay step up, because hey, he's never

467
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: had a drop off. If he's healthy, there's no drop off.

468
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Speaker 1: He'll be good. So those two guys alone plus Ingram

469
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Speaker 1: should make it interesting. David Johnson, he had not missed

470
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Speaker 1: those four games with a concussion, would have been like

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Speaker 1: nine hundred and thirty five yards rushing. He would add

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Speaker 1: fifteen hundred and sixteen hundred yards and he'd been in

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Speaker 1: total and he would have been in double figures in touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: I think before the season, anybody, if you'd ask him,

475
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Speaker 1: would you take that? They would say, heck, yeah, we

476
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Speaker 1: take that. But he's got to stay healthy, and if

477
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Speaker 1: he doesn't, they got options now besides Duke Johnson, who

478
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Speaker 1: still hasn't been signed as far as I'll know, there

479
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Speaker 1: he is John McClain, the general from the Houston Chronicle.

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Speaker 1: We visit with him every morning at about a fifteen

481
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Speaker 1: or so during Texans training camp live at the Houston

482
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Speaker 1: Methodist Training Center. Now coming up on the program, we

483
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: mentioned him briefly. You want to hear from this guy,

484
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 1: very entertaining player, played at Oklahoma State. Hurricane Katrina, a vacuee,

485
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: came to Houston, grew up in San Antonio. The rest

486
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Speaker 1: of the way. Vincent Taylor coming up next on Texans

487
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Speaker 1: All Access. Mark Vandamaron John Harris with you Texans All Access.

488
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Speaker 1: As we do the evening program, we do the morning program.

489
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Speaker 1: We do a lot this time of year, actually every

490
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Speaker 1: time of year, but this is really fun and busy

491
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Speaker 1: and a lot of stuff to talk about with all

492
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Speaker 1: these players, these fifty some new player for the Houston

493
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Speaker 1: Texans out there on the field every day at the

494
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Speaker 1: Houston Methodist Training Center. So we caught up with one

495
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Speaker 1: of them, Vincent Taylor, on the eve of training camp.

496
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: This is a big dude. Big dude. Hey. The word

497
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: dude has been used a lot today because Philip Lindsay

498
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 1: used it to describe just about every running back in

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Speaker 1: the running back room. But Vincent Taylor. Johnny uses it

500
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Speaker 1: a lot too to describe players. Taylor six to three,

501
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: listed at three eleven from Oklahoma State, born in New Orleans,

502
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: came here because of Katrina, then went to San Antonio

503
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Speaker 1: to play high school ball. Why don't we let him

504
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: tell it? And he's in his fifth year in the NFL,

505
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: so he's been around the block a bit, but he's

506
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Speaker 1: playing with a lot of brand new players. Well it's new,

507
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: you know. I did like to have fun and everybody,

508
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: like I tell a lot of people that's a new team.

509
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: So everybody getting familiar with each other. But I'm a

510
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: people's person, so I think that's pretty much why I

511
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: get along with a lot of people. VT. The offensive

512
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,719
Speaker 1: lineman always say, hey, we're the tightest group. Look at us.

513
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: We're all is the tightest group. But over the years,

514
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: I've seen the defensive line be a pretty tight and

515
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: close knit group. How important is that for the D

516
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: line to feel that group, that camaraderie of being the

517
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Speaker 1: D line? How important is that? It's very important? You know,

518
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Speaker 1: we a coach talk about it every time and start

519
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Speaker 1: up front and whether that's offensive line or defensive line.

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Speaker 1: And I think we as defensive line. We're very close.

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Speaker 1: You know, we hang out outside of the facility make

522
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Speaker 1: sure we do the right thing with the COVID protocol,

523
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Speaker 1: So we just try to hang out outside of the facility.

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Speaker 1: I think it's very important that we had that come

525
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Speaker 1: out of that chemistry, just because if we run in

526
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Speaker 1: a game, we gotta make sure me on the same page. Trust.

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00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, trust is very big, So we gotta make

528
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Speaker 1: sure everybody on the same page. And I think we're

529
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Speaker 1: pretty much a close unit. So what do you think

530
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: of training camp in Houston as far as the weather.

531
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Speaker 1: I know you had some offseason practices as well. You've

532
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: been through a camp with the Dolphins in South Florida.

533
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: It's very humid there, so what about that dynamic. I

534
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: hadn't been in Miami. Once you get past that first period,

535
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,719
Speaker 1: your your shoes super wet. You gotta switch out your shoes.

536
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: So man, it's very hot. Our chills, So I'm kind

537
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 1: of used to it. But I like I tell a guy,

538
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna still wear my lone sleeve regardless, you know,

539
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: no matter how hot it is, just to protect my skin.

540
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be very hot. But at the end

541
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: of the day, come down. It's a mental thing, you know,

542
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: it's a mind over matter thing. You know, it's a grind.

543
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: So we all got to just stick together and get

544
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Speaker 1: through it. Man, I knew I loved you when you

545
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: walked in. I were sleeps all time. Yeah, the same thing.

546
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: I mean. You can see this. You can see the

547
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: tan on my hand, long sleeves I wear when I'm outside,

548
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: You see me. Huh yeah, exactly why Houston? What about

549
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: Houston made sense for you to come here at this time? Man,

550
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: It's crazy because actually before I went to Cleveland last year,

551
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: when I left Buffalo, my agent actually called me, like

552
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: the day before I signed with Cleveland. He was like,

553
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: how do you feel about Houston? So Houston was always

554
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 1: a team that was interested in me. And then, uh, like,

555
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: I tell people what I would have signed with Houston

556
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: or not. I bought a house out here because Houston

557
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: always was a place that I called home. You know,

558
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Speaker 1: when I left New Orleans due to Katrina, I came

559
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Speaker 1: to Houston. Then I went to San Antonio. So Houston

560
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: was always a place that was home for me. So

561
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: when I got the opportunity, it was only right. So

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Speaker 1: what do you remember about leaving New Orleans during Katrina,

563
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Speaker 1: because you know, you have the astrodome right here. We

564
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Speaker 1: had a lot of people from New Orleans there. I

565
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: know a lot of people did other things and you

566
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Speaker 1: end up in San Antonio after that. But what can

567
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: you tell us about that experience? It was tough. You know,

568
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy, you know,

569
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Speaker 1: me being a little boy at the time. It's something

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Speaker 1: that you know, I always remember. I got a lot

571
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Speaker 1: of people know, I got the date that Katrina hit

572
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: on my own, tattooed on my home, and you know,

573
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: it's something everybody got a story, you know, and just

574
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, everybody's story is different than Katrina.

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Speaker 1: That just happened to be something that I went through

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Speaker 1: in my life. And like I said, there's always something

577
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Speaker 1: that's gonna always stick with me and motivate me. I

578
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: know you said you were younger when you went through that,

579
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: and you were How do you feel like it's shaped

580
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: you over the years. I mean, you come to Houston

581
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: place that Houston New Orleans obviously you know, not too

582
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: far apart, but they can me world's apart just based

583
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: on you know, those two particular cities and then you

584
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: talk about San Antonio. Well, how did it shape you?

585
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: I thought you feel to shape you as you've grown

586
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: through the years. I think Katrina made me who I am,

587
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: who I am right now as a person. You know,

588
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Speaker 1: I think it was meant for me. I wouldn't say

589
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: meant for me to go through. That was just a

590
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: part of my journey. You know, things happen, and I

591
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: think without Katrina, I tell a lot of people just

592
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: growing up in New Orleans and nor what kind of city.

593
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: It ain't easy to live in New Orleans. So I

594
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Speaker 1: think Katrina probably was the best thing that could happen

595
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Speaker 1: to me and my family. And just knowing that to

596
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Speaker 1: see why I'm at right now today in my life,

597
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: I think you know that that was something that I

598
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: had to go through to make me who I am today.

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00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: All Right, you went to Oklahoma State? Were there other

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Speaker 1: options for you? What made you decide to become a

601
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: cowboy man? Coming from New Orleans at the time. You

602
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: know football is big in Texas and uh I remember

603
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: Bella University was my first offer, and they came to

604
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: my school during an athletic period and offered me a scholarship.

605
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: And me. The whole process was new to me coming

606
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Speaker 1: from New Orleans, Texas. So I'm like, I was ready

607
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: to commit right in. And then I called my dad

608
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: and everything. He was ready to come to the school

609
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: and I was about to commit to Bella, but some

610
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: like people at my highschool, it would like, just wait

611
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Speaker 1: your option out. You know a lot of offers are

612
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: gonna be coming. And then I wound up going on

613
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: to visit at Oklahoma State and man, I just they

614
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: took me to a party. And once they took me

615
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: to that party, that was that was it that got

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Speaker 1: me drawn to the school. And look again, look look

617
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Speaker 1: where I'm at today. You know, I was able to

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Speaker 1: graduate from Oklahoma State and nah, you know I'm going

619
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Speaker 1: into my fifty in the NFL vention. For those people

620
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: that haven't seen you play, maybe some Texas fans out

621
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: there haven't seen you play. What can you tell those

622
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: fans about what you're bringing the table when you get

623
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Speaker 1: on the field or without a doubt, I'm looking to

624
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: come in there and you know, help the team or

625
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: whether that stopped the run. And uh, you know I'm

626
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: always do my thing on field goal block. You know

627
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Speaker 1: that's something I take very serious. So you know I'm

628
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: gonna get my hand on a few blocks this year.

629
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop the run and do what I gotta

630
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Speaker 1: do to contribute to this team. I want to get

631
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: back to Oklahoma State for a moment where Oh you

632
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: in Texas wanted to go to the SCC. What do

633
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: you think of that? And what do you think should

634
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,239
Speaker 1: happen to OSU at the Big twelve? The rest of it?

635
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: That's funny because I felt like, you know, like I

636
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: tell people every year that I was at Oklahoma State, Uh,

637
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: I had a chance to play for the Big Twelve

638
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: championship and we always came up short playing against OU.

639
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: So with all you losing, uh, with with oh you leaving,

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Speaker 1: I feel like Oklahoma State is that next team up

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Speaker 1: in a Big twelter when that when that conference. So

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Speaker 1: I think it'd be good for them and uh even

643
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Speaker 1: though they leave, and I think they'll bring in two

644
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: other great teams to replace them, but I think Kyle

645
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: boys to have a chance to win a conference next

646
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Speaker 1: year or whatever they leave. Who has better hair? You

647
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: or Mike Gundy? You know Gundy had the mudet gonna

648
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: You can't can't be right, right, I've seen that. That's crazy.

649
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Speaker 1: He cut it, but I think he'll grow it back

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Speaker 1: out depending on how his son. His son's doing. You know,

651
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Speaker 1: he's got to cut that. He's gotta gotta keep it. Actually, Okay,

652
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Speaker 1: you're ready for some either oars. It's very simple, airb

653
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Speaker 1: We'll start with this. You gotta pick a new professional sport.

654
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Speaker 1: No longer playing football, but you're gonna go be a

655
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Speaker 1: star in either the Premier League in soccer or Major

656
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Speaker 1: League Baseball. I had to say baseball, So that's a

657
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: different sport. I mean baseball different too, but I think

658
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Speaker 1: it's more easier to hit a bud and to try

659
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Speaker 1: to kick it with your feet. All right, Okay, I

660
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: knew the I'm not gonna ask the bird Kurry. I'll

661
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: ask you real quick, Larry Bird or Steph Curry. I

662
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: mean the way the game is, today's two different games.

663
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Speaker 1: I think I gotta go with Steph Curry. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: get your point. I'm he'll pick Kobe. If you throw

665
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Speaker 1: Kobe and Kobe or Steph, I gotta go with Kobe.

666
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Speaker 1: You gotta go with Yeah, you know Kobe. It's funny

667
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Speaker 1: because I was of you know, we were kind of

668
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: bird magic Jordan, and then there was Kobe, and then

669
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Speaker 1: Steph has kind of been more of the younger guys,

670
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Speaker 1: but Kobe's the one that really is kind of hit

671
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Speaker 1: for a lot of guys that we've had come through here.

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Speaker 1: So a guy pick Kobe over Lebron, Yes, which I

673
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: think some people would find crazy. I'm going Lebron. I'm

674
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Speaker 1: biased to that. I'm picking Lebron over I'll take Lebron

675
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Speaker 1: or anybody. But if I could take Kobe's mentality and

676
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: put it in Lebron or that's a that's a different animal. Yeah.

677
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Speaker 1: Instagram or TikTok Instagram. I don't do TikTok Instagram or

678
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Speaker 1: Facebook Instagram. Okay, good jay Z or Kanye jay Z.

679
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Speaker 1: I don't really thank too much Kanye. Okay, all right, Um,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna win an Olympic gold medal? Do you want

681
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: it to be in either swimming or gymnastics? Swimming? I

682
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: think swimming will either than to try to move my

683
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Speaker 1: three hundred get on the battlest So I gotta I

684
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Speaker 1: gotta go with swimming. Gave me, you give me a

685
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Speaker 1: great visual. Okay, you went to Okloma State, talked about that.

686
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Speaker 1: Letna take you back to high school, and I'm gonna

687
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Speaker 1: wipe that away. You can't go to Okloma State, And

688
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Speaker 1: I'm giving you two options, either oh you or Texas.

689
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Speaker 1: I gotta go Texas because I think even if Texas

690
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Speaker 1: would have offered me, I probably would have went to

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Speaker 1: Texas over even you know what I'm saying, to school.

692
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Speaker 1: I went to everybody growing up in Texas. Everybody wanted

693
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Speaker 1: to be alone home, So I picked Texas of old

694
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Speaker 1: youth for sure. It worked out better for you to

695
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: going over mistakes, way way better. Last one. If you

696
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: weren't playing ball, you'd either be in the media or

697
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Speaker 1: on a food truck. Probably food truck man. Me being

698
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Speaker 1: from New Orleans, you know we we know him for

699
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Speaker 1: food and meals. That I gotta say, food truck. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what would your food truck be? Would you make your

701
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: cajun cajun? For sure? Yeah, because you can't get good,

702
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Speaker 1: good gumble and stuff everywhere, So caje point. Vincent, thanks

703
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: so much for being with us. Appreciate thank you all

704
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: for having Vincent Taylor joining us on Texans Radio. Great

705
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: visit with him now. Jordan Nakens has been around for

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Speaker 1: a while. It feels like one of the salty veterans

707
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Speaker 1: on this team. Deep City catches up with him next

708
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Speaker 1: on Texans Radio. Great to have listening to Texans Radio

709
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: tonight as camp is under way, and man, so many stories.

710
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: I know that there's one huge, humongous story that most

711
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: people covering the team are focused on, but I think

712
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 1: people are starting to dig a little bit deeper, deeper

713
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: into the album cuts as we call them. There are

714
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: so many stories on this team, and we've done a

715
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Speaker 1: lot of them throughout the offseason, but now that we're

716
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Speaker 1: seeing the team on the field, there's just a lot

717
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: to talk about, with the way this defense is trying

718
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: to come together, with the four to three, the way

719
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Speaker 1: the offense try to organize itself with some new members

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Speaker 1: on the offensive line, certainly new receivers and quarterbacks and

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Speaker 1: the rest of it. Now, let's go around the league

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Speaker 1: a bit before we get to our deep Slant interview.

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Speaker 1: As Aaron Rodgers has this deal done with Green Bay,

724
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Speaker 1: A lot of people think there's still a lot of

725
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: tension between Rogers and the front office. Okay, we'll see

726
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: how that plays out. You're dealing with a team that

727
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: just went thirteen and three two years in a Row.

728
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: These kind of sound like luxury problems to me, but

729
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: maybe that's just me. We went over the Randall Cobbs

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Speaker 1: story in the first segments some of the things he

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Speaker 1: had to say. Look, I think it's kind of funny

732
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Speaker 1: he called the Packers of Fortune five hundred company and

733
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Speaker 1: the Texans a startup Texans with all the new players.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when you bring in fifty new players, I

735
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: think some of that's fair. It's not that it's such

736
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: a bad thing. Hey, once upon a time Microsoft was

737
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: a startup, right, and the Packers are the oldest team

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League, Texans the youngest franchise in

739
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Speaker 1: the NFL. T J Watt apparently hasn't participated in team

740
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: drills for the Steelers since Camp open. Also, JJ Watt

741
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Speaker 1: nursing a hamstring. I believe that was the report that

742
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Speaker 1: I read this morning. And since we're on the former

743
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: Texan parade here, what about Will Fuller in Miami suffering

744
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: an injury in Wednesday's practice. Don't have much more information

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00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: on him right now. Let's hope Will gets better. But

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Speaker 1: you know what, if you want to sit the one

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00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: out against Houston this year, that's okay with me. All right,

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Speaker 1: Let's get to it. The Deep Slant interview with former

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Speaker 1: pro baseball player George Aikens. Welcome into the Deep Plant

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Speaker 1: one on one present of Bykexfinity. Joining me today, year

751
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: four veteran tight end Jordan Aikins, fresh off the practice field, Jordan,

752
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: give us a sense of what camp's been like so far.

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00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: I know it's really early, but you've been making some

754
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: nice catches. We saw you out there late getting a

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00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: nice diving catch from Tyrod Taylor. How's it been for

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00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: you so far? It's been very competitive. Um, a lot

757
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: of competition, great competition who're pushing each other and making

758
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: each other's better, So you know, the chemistry is getting there.

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Speaker 1: You know, me and Tyrod we've been working and as

760
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: well as other tight ends, so you know we're trying

761
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: to bring each other along and win a couple of

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Speaker 1: games this year. You are the veto of the group

763
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Speaker 1: and tight ends coach Andy Bishoff this offseason said as

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Speaker 1: much that you're really just a leader in that room.

765
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Speaker 1: You're willing to do anything to learn and get better.

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Speaker 1: But what is it like with this new offense. You

767
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: still have Tim Kelly there, but then you've got Andy

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Speaker 1: Bishoff who came from the Ravens. What's it like sort

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Speaker 1: of meshing those two ideas together and some of the

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00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: new things you get to do this year. Um, it's great.

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Speaker 1: You know they're picking each other's brain, Um, finding ways

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Speaker 1: to get the tight ends and wallop in and get

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Speaker 1: more boss to the tight ends, and you know, just

774
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: doing work for the team as well as taking a

775
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: lot of pressure off the wide receivers and running back.

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Speaker 1: So you know, Um, the blocking schemes are a lot

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Speaker 1: better and he brings a lot to the table and

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Speaker 1: it's working in our favor. What about you for strengths

779
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Speaker 1: and weaknesses? What are some things that you've seen you've

780
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: really gotten better at over the past few years and

781
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: some things that you still want to work on here

782
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: in camp on foot working, blocking U as well as

783
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: being more creative in my routes, creating more separation for

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00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: myself and being more presentable for throws, you know, and um,

785
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: using my body as well as my speed to going

786
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Speaker 1: to tack the ball. You're such a dynamic receiver. What

787
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: about the run game? Because Coach Bischoff said that you

788
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: guys are basically Swiss army knives. You're asked to do everything.

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Speaker 1: So how do you view the run game and sort

790
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: of the skill set that's needed to run block there? Um,

791
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: you have to be very physical. Um, you have to

792
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: be able to go down in the trenches and hold

793
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Speaker 1: your weight and move some bodies. Um, as well as

794
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: usual speed to get out on the edge of the

795
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: outside zone. And they're being very creative with the running

796
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: mixing in the passage. So you know, UM, it's gonna

797
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: work pretty well. I believe you know we're gonna I

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Speaker 1: end and you know, to see where it takes us.

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Speaker 1: How about this offseason? What did you get up to?

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Speaker 1: What were you busy working on? Did you get to

801
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: go anywhere? I know it's a lot different from last

802
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: year's offseason, but how about yours? Um, this year I

803
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: focused on my body, healing my body, a lot of stretching,

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00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: a lot of body maintenance with my hammies and my

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00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: calves and you know, footwork as well as speed and um,

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00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: you know, maintaining my strength as well, you know, getting

807
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: a little stronger, cutting from fat and picking up more

808
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: body masks, I mean muscle masks. So I've noticed that

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys have been changing their numbers even

810
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: in the tight ends from Collie change numbers, Revin Jordan's

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Speaker 1: got the number nine, but you decided to stick with

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Speaker 1: eighty eight. Was there a moment where you thought I

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Speaker 1: might change my number? Or are you you really married

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Speaker 1: to the number eighty eight? Um? You know, in high

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Speaker 1: school I was number four, but it was more like

816
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: a quarterback and wide receiver and prime return kit return.

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Speaker 1: But you know all the greats wordy eight. So I

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Speaker 1: switched a D eight in college, you know. And I've

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Speaker 1: been a tight end. So you know a lot of

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Speaker 1: greats like I say, Tony Gonzalez and a lot of

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Speaker 1: you know, called a lot of people back in a

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Speaker 1: date wordy eight. So I'm going to number and hopefully

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Speaker 1: that can be considered a great fund end of my journey.

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Speaker 1: I hope you are too. And you know what, I

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Speaker 1: like that you kept with eight eight because it's really

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Speaker 1: hard to learn people's numbers, especially when they keep changing,

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Speaker 1: but we always know that eighty eight is Jordan Nakens. Jordan,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for the time and best of luck

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Speaker 1: for the rest of camp. Thank you, Jordan Nakens with

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Speaker 1: DBCO Jordan looking good out there, looks bigger all right.

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Speaker 1: More from Camp on Friday with Texans Training Camp Live

832
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Speaker 1: eight to ten am on Sports Radio six ten, the

833
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Speaker 1: whole Sports Radio six ten Gang actually the morning program

834
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Speaker 1: and mid day program Landry and Lopez. They are out

835
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Speaker 1: there live at the Houston Methodist Training Center as well,

836
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: and we are alive before practice every day with Texans

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Speaker 1: Training Camp today and that airs on Houston Texans dot com,

838
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: the Texans z app, Facebook, Twitter, all the social media

839
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: stuff we can get on YouTube is well live. Unbelievable

840
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: how many things you can go live on these days.

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00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 1: But we're there early on during practice. You can see

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00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: practice when we are on and you get a push

843
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: notification on your phone. You have the Texans App. If

844
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: you don't, please download it immediately and have a great

845
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 1: night everyone. Thank you very much, Jimmy Mudd for producing,

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00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: Johnny Harris for being on the program. We'll be back

847
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: out there tomorrow at eight. John McLean joins us in

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Speaker 1: the first segment. Have a great evening and go Texans.