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Speaker 1: with Lauren Jenkins. Uh, before we go with that, let

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Speaker 1: me recommend a couple of podcasts. If you listen to podcasts,

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Speaker 1: which obviously you do and you figured it out. Get

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Speaker 1: Real with Caroline Hobby is the newest podcast here on

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Speaker 1: the Nashville Podcast Network. I saw she was pretty thrilled

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Speaker 1: It's a fantastic podcast. And I think that was when

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Speaker 1: Caroline I started talking. I was like, your podcast is

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Speaker 1: And so she's now over on the Nashville Podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: It's called Get Real with Caroline Hobby. And knowing Caroline

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Speaker 1: for a long time, she was on Amazing Race. Knew

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Speaker 1: but she was in Stealing Angels. She is married to

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Speaker 1: Michael Hobby from A Thousand Horses. Um is a pretty

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Speaker 1: cool life. But she goes and she talks to now

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Speaker 1: you know a lot of really strong women and a

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Speaker 1: lot of them happened to be the wives of country

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Speaker 1: lot of these country stars wouldn't be Star without these wives,

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Speaker 1: and there's a great one with Caroline Bryan Luke Bryant's wife.

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Speaker 1: You have the list up over there, Russell Dickerson's wife. Um,

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Speaker 1: she has oh yes, separately. Yeah, so I've checked it out.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna get real with Caroline Hobby. Um. Also, obviously,

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Speaker 1: Amy has a podcast called Four Things with Amy Brown,

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Speaker 1: which is on a whole wide range of topics. That

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Speaker 1: podcast is doing fantastic. Uh, it's getting closer to catching us,

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Speaker 1: it is, Yeah, and I think listen, if I'm to

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Speaker 1: Midweek mail Bag was heavy for her. I was like, Amy,

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Speaker 1: another one that because her podcasts a lot of work

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Speaker 1: and Uh, I was like, you gotta do another one.

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Speaker 1: You people want first of all, they want to hear you,

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Speaker 1: the Bobycast, Um Lunchbox and Eddie and Raymundo. If you're

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Speaker 1: into sports, or maybe if you listen to this and

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Speaker 1: someone in your lives a big sports fan. They do

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Speaker 1: a show called the Sore Losers Podcasts. They do that

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Speaker 1: four or five times a week. Right. Uh. Kelly Henderson

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Speaker 1: has the Velvet Edge podcast Fashion Style Tips. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot there on the Nashville Podcast Network And always go

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Speaker 1: to Nashville Podcast Network dot com and see all the

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Speaker 1: shows that we have there. And we're really close to

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Speaker 1: Or no? Is that signed? I don't want I won't

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Speaker 1: slash Bones. I was, um, I get to watching your

465
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Speaker 1: Instagram last weekend all your stuff stolen? Yeah, and then Amy,

466
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Speaker 1: my co host, sent me a message and she was like, hey,

467
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Speaker 1: we should help Lauren. And it was right about the

468
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: time that somebody else jumped in and helped you with

469
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Speaker 1: get you a bunch of stuff. And I was like,

470
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Speaker 1: ashually good. Yeah, yeah, that sucks so bad. So where

471
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 1: was your car? Um? It was at a friend's house

472
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: and it was about an hour before going to the airport,

473
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: and so was it like on the side road, parked

474
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Speaker 1: in the back and then smash the window, smashing what

475
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Speaker 1: was in the car they stole? All I could grab

476
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Speaker 1: was my backpack. But it's like one of those like

477
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: Appalachian Trail backpacks that just fits your life in it,

478
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: and I had put um my journals and song notebooks

479
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: that because I write on paper and so all the

480
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: stuff that I've been writing for this year a stuff

481
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Speaker 1: you can't really replace. I brought it because I was

482
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: flying to Texas for shows and I was like, oh,

483
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a little window, so I'm gonna bring

484
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Speaker 1: all of my hard drives, my backup hard drives and

485
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: get this a little more organized. So it's like twelve

486
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: years worth of um video footage and projects and journal

487
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: it's all yeah. And I was just seeing you talk

488
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: about your clothes, mostly because that's UM well, because I

489
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 1: ran and grabbed like a duffel bag and I had

490
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Speaker 1: nothing to put in it because I'm the person that

491
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Speaker 1: has like two pairs of shoes and like one pair

492
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: of black jeans, and I was like, oh, well, I

493
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Speaker 1: guess I'm going to the report in my sweatpants and

494
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: I've got no bra perfect So I was landing in

495
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: Texas literally like okay, I don't I don't have a

496
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Speaker 1: brush or anything. And I was hoping that if I

497
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: posted it, like maybe it would turn up, because what

498
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: are they going to do with a Tom Petty D shirt?

499
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: I mean, unless it's their size, really it Yeah, so

500
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: I was thinking like, well, maybe somebody will see it. Um,

501
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: But I was pretty when a friends started a front

502
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: of my manager started to go fund me page. I

503
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: was like, I don't, I don't want to do that,

504
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: and they were like, no, let us help you. And

505
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: I've been pretty overwhelmed for the past week of how

506
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: many kind people have helped me. Um. I'm not used

507
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: to that that kind of support. It's is really overwhelming.

508
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a woman who came to my

509
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: show in Houston with a bag of T shirts and

510
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: a pair of headphones and a hard drive and she

511
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: was waiting at Lowden to just gift me this, and

512
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: I'm like, can I give you a poster? Kinna? No,

513
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: I don't need anything. And I was like, great, okay.

514
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 1: I can never repay any of these people. I think

515
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 1: that's the thing. I don't think people are searching for repayment.

516
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: And that's hard for me too. It's hard for to take.

517
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: I know, I'm kind of like, can someone just cuss

518
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 1: me out? Because the scales are so tipped right now,

519
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: there's too much, so much tipped from your perspective right now.

520
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Speaker 1: Imagine I mean, you've probably be done things for people,

521
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: not expected anything back ever, just for the sake of

522
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: your human and humans look out for humans. But then

523
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: we started to feel where when it happens for us,

524
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: Because for me it was always I was a charity

525
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: case my whole life. I grew up super poor and

526
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: PTA groups in church groups like they mad sure, I

527
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: was fed in at Christmas President. So now it just

528
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: triggers that feeling again where it's like I'm the charity

529
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: and that's just me. I have to have to give

530
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: up the ghost. And so for me, that's what it is,

531
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: and that's why I struggle with it. Why do you

532
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: think that is for you? Um? I think because I've

533
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: been on my own for so long and never expected

534
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: anyone to take care of me or do anything for me.

535
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: And I feel I feel better if I earn something.

536
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 1: Then if it's just given to me, whether it's an

537
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: opportunity or a pair of socks, it's like I feel

538
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: like I if I earn it, then it's okay, because

539
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: that's how I've operated my whole life. So when something

540
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: is just given and nothing is expected it in return,

541
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: it's I don't know how to handle that so what

542
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: do you say to her when she gives it to you. Well,

543
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: I tried to give her merch and she would she

544
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: would I was like, can I give you a button?

545
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: I make these in my house, you do hand make them?

546
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: And she wouldn't do it. She was like, no, I'll

547
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: buy one. She was doing it for the sake of

548
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: doing it. The say she was being a human for

549
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: the sake of being a human. Yeah, I was really beautiful. Um, yeah,

550
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: it was really beautiful. Kind of cool. Huh. Yeah, you

551
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: were forced to live that. Yeah, a terrible thing happened

552
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: and you wouldn't it sucks all You're like, creation was stolen,

553
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: Like that part really sucks, But I guess on the

554
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: not silver line, you know it is though, but you

555
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: were forced to have to let an emotion in that

556
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: you're not very comfortable dealing with, and it also gives

557
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: you new perspective on it too. Yeah. I mean it

558
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,239
Speaker 1: was a really great reminder of how humans actually are

559
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: really good and how people help other people and complete strangers.

560
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: I mean it was, Um, it was a really beautiful

561
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: thing to see. I wish I was witnessing that happened

562
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: to somebody else and not me, right, I mean just

563
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: from the terms of being so uncomfortable. Oh, I would

564
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: say for the terms to all my crap was stolen

565
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: like that suck too. But I'm gonna read here what

566
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: you had stolen close shoes, makeup, guitar pedals, laptop hard drives,

567
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: something called CDs in the show. Um, all the all

568
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: the stuff that you mentioned that you wrote, you got

569
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: none of it back so far right, So so you're

570
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: not getting it back at this point. No, it's not

571
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: coming out. They probably read my journal, laughed and then

572
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: threw it down a fire. I beg having had my stuff,

573
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, taking a couple of times, you never see

574
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: it again. They tried to pawn what they can quickly.

575
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: I know I've been I've gone up. Yeah. I don't

576
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: know what they're gonna do with the nexternal hard drive.

577
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: Nothing nothing they can't take and turn it over super

578
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: quick to get drugs, right, because what they're doing, they're

579
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: just trying to find money quick so they can get

580
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: their fixed quick then, because a lot of the thing

581
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: now to do is to walk into hit door handles

582
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: and if it's unlock taken like they're they're having to

583
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: do warnings all the time, like Hey, the only your

584
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: doors unlocked, you idiots. But this didn't happen. This is

585
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: a bust in the window. Yeah, this is a crowbar.

586
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: Did you go and look in and go? Wait? What happened? What?

587
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: It's always that confusing moment where you like the window. Yeah,

588
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: well the alarm car alarm went off. Oh it did, Yeah,

589
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: about thirty minutes before my alarm alarm went off. M m.

590
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: Well listen, you need anything. I got a whole closet

591
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: downe there. You go into it and you know whatever

592
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: you want. I'm good. I don't. I don't think I'm

593
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: your shoe size like whatever you want. Uh, well that

594
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: does that does stink? Um? Well? Her, here is all

595
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: good things? Uh? This is a song from from Lawren's

596
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: voice sounds like she does NPR. And so now I

597
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: feel myself falling kind of the spot you have that

598
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: real like welcome to NBR today. We'll be talking about

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Speaker 1: the neuroscientists from Paduca, Kentucky has been spent seven years research.

600
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: That's kind of has that voice, so you go into it.

601
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: So now I'm feeling myself to kind of get dragged

602
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: into it. Um, here's all good things, Here's all good things. Baby,

603
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: we don't need we go rowing. It's looking at the

604
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: draft with I don't remember what year it was, Um years,

605
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: it's been a few years. That's actually, uh, that's that's

606
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: the work tape from the day we wrote it. Oh yeah,

607
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm making them. You say work tape. So this isn't

608
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: on the record, This is the vers so you just

609
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: net the work tape on the record looking at you

610
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: to be looking at week wrote that rough car run

611
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: friend of mine. Yeah, Shane McNally, yeah, Blair Daily. It

612
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: was fun. That's cool to get those big rights that

613
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: long ago. It was fun. How did I set you

614
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: up with those guys? I wrote? Um? I also wrote

615
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: you'll never know which is on the record with Ross

616
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: and so I think this was our second right together.

617
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: And Shane just happened to be free. So Ross was like, hey,

618
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: do you mind because we had started the song. He

619
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: was like, do you mind if I bring Shane in?

620
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: He's free right now. And I was like, yeah, come on,

621
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: let's do it. We wrote it really fast. It was fun.

622
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: You talk about acting, Uh, so you're fifteen years old?

623
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: Is that what you want to do? You want to

624
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: move away an act? Or? Why did why did you

625
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: move so young. Um. I started getting opportunities in film

626
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: and TV when I was fifteen in Memphis, and so

627
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: I started crewing on some independent films and then got

628
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: with an agency there and started booking work. Um but really,

629
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: to me, it was all of it. I was writing

630
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: at that point, I was playing in bars at that point,

631
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: and I've just always loved storytelling. Where do you go

632
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: at fifteen? Who do you go with me? Okay? But

633
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: how do you if you don't have a driver's license

634
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Speaker 1: or nor you know, do you hope that you don't

635
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Speaker 1: get pulled over with your permit? Okay? And how but

636
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: how do you are you just working cash? Um? No?

637
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: I had you know, Dobe nines and stuff. How did

638
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: you do adult things? Um? Good question? I got? I

639
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: got good. I was scrappy. I figured out, I figured

640
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: out a way, and I don't I don't recommend that

641
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: people do that that young. But I was like ready

642
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: to go when I was ten, and so fifteen was

643
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: like the first time that I actually could and I

644
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: figured out, Okay, how do I homeschool? And I had

645
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: my swim team coach show me how to do it?

646
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: And I would have to go back to North Carolina

647
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: to like take tests and all that kind of stuff

648
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: and show my lesson plans um and then funny enough,

649
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't tell the story that means you. Well,

650
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: when I was fifteen, I got booked on his Nashville

651
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: music video and it was through CMT, sorry guys, and I.

652
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: They needed a copy of my driver's license, so I

653
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: had to photo shop. I was like, oh, I forgot it.

654
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: Can I email it to you that long ago? You

655
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: photo shopped it before? It was? Yeah, Well, because I

656
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: was also doing photography, I was, you know, shooting weddings

657
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: and so I had learned photoshop and all that kind

658
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: of stuff. So I was able to photo shop my

659
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: permit and send it over to a music video, which

660
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: one it was called heart Like Memphis by the Carter

661
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: Twins and what's your role? I was the girl and

662
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: I didn't have any scenes with them, but the song

663
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: is all about this girl and she's like kind of

664
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: lonely and sad and whimsical but also full of life

665
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: or whatever. And so I was like, yeah, that was funny.

666
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: So you just figure it out. How old do they

667
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: think you were? I think they thought I was one

668
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 1: and you were fifteen sixteen years old and you obviously

669
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Speaker 1: you don't say you're not. You just take the work. Yeah,

670
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: I mean I still my whole life and not saying

671
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: what I couldn't showing up and figuring it out. And

672
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: so you photoshop a driver's license. You're fifteen, you look yeah,

673
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: wait what are your so your parents are they live?

674
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: Are they together? Yes? And you're fifteen and you want

675
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: to leave? Yeah? And what do they say to that?

676
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: I think I think they felt that they couldn't stop me,

677
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: and so and I was I mean, I was really

678
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: determined and I was like, is what I'm going to do?

679
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: See you guys at Christmas? Where did you get the car? Um?

680
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: I had saved up enough money to buy a Volvo

681
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: from my second cousin, And so at fifteen, with no

682
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Speaker 1: driver's license, you drove UM Charlotte Charlie, North Carolina to

683
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: Memphis to do I was booked. I was a p

684
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: A and set photographer on UM, an indie film The No. Wow.

685
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: That's pretty crazy, And you know what, it reminds me

686
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: of a as a kid version. Do you ever watch friends?

687
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: Do you watch friends at all? I've seen friends? Yeah,

688
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: I'm not You're pretty counterculture. There's a whole arc where

689
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: Joey goes off to Las Vegas to act. You ever

690
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: see Mike Your Friends where Joey runs up to be

691
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: to be in the Las Vegas movie and he has

692
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: to take all these other jobs as he's trying to

693
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: act and anyway whatever. But so so it gets a system.

694
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: So you're so punk rock. What is this system? Yeah? Right?

695
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: You watch Game of Thrones? Did you watch that right now?

696
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 1: That we were only through one episode of the last season?

697
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: Who do you think ends up being? I just don't

698
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: understand how they're going to wrap this up in five

699
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: more episodes. Oh god, you found it. It's the video

700
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 1: at the car No other dudes, Yeah, that's what they're dudes,

701
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: that's you. So you're driving a car. They're playing the

702
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: Carter twy. They look like to Nick Carter's from the

703
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: Backstreet Boys. There's these two dudes. They've never heard of

704
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: the Carter Twins. There you are at fifteen years old.

705
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: They're a different name now they are. Yeah, uh is

706
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: that Dan and Shake? And this is you in the video?

707
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah driving that car. I was terrified to drive it,

708
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: especially whimsical. And you're fifteen. If they one. Are there

709
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: like adult men hitting on you thinking that they can

710
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: since you're an adult as well, and you have to

711
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: be like, don't because you will go to jail. No. No,

712
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: it was like a two day, two day shoot. Um,

713
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: everybody on set was professional. Doesn't even look like you

714
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: just I mean I guess it does. Huh, yeah I

715
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: can Okay. Still, well, you do look whimsical, super whimsical.

716
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Speaker 1: Who do you let me ask you this that game

717
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: with throw who do you want to take? If you

718
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: get to pick? Who would you have? I? I love's

719
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: a scrapper. She reminds me of me. Yeah, she's like

720
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: fighting and clawing and figuring it out the whole time.

721
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: That's who I would want to take over. This is

722
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: probably not going to happen. She's too far away from Yeah,

723
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: I mean unless everybody dies and she somehow survives, and yeah,

724
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: I have so many questions. Would you be okay with

725
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: the White Walkers just the end they have it all?

726
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: I would really what a fantastic ending? Yeah, but bummer,

727
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: it would just be you know, listen, life is not

728
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: John Stark takes over it? You know maybe maybe you

729
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 1: know he just found out Listen, spoiler we won't spoil

730
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,479
Speaker 1: and spoil anything, but I would like for a start

731
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:04,959
Speaker 1: to be yeah, probably doably. Probably John right, that would

732
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: be if you're betting get a hundred bucks, would you

733
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: put it on? Honestly? With those writers, there's so many

734
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: twists and turns and shocks that and they throw the

735
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: rules out. That's why I wish might be I mean

736
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: it might be um Brand. I think he's a favorite

737
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: because you don't know, really what's up with him? You've

738
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: never seen is he the night King? Is he even?

739
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: They could make that Night King look like anybody else,

740
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: and they're going to make him look at that similar

741
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, Michael, you you got yeah, yeah, yeah.

742
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: You don't want to say to it. But it's a

743
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: great show. I would love and I tell people this

744
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: about Game of Thrones, don't get started right now. I

745
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: love it. I think it's the best show of my life.

746
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: Not my favorite show, one of my favorites, and not

747
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: my absolute favorite, but it's the best show of my life.

748
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: With the money, the writing, the production, and the thing

749
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: is too now everybody, it's so hard to find original content,

750
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: especially in a fantasy. Everybody's making adaptations of things that

751
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: have already been made, so for this to be an

752
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 1: original piece and original storyline is pretty fantastic. Only five

753
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: episodes left and the one then again, we're only episode

754
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: two of the last season. Um, and not to spoil anything,

755
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 1: but the second episode not even an hour long either,

756
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: how much the runtime, but in the world. So the

757
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: good fun news is it's gotta move quick. It's super quick.

758
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: So I rewatched it again because I was like, Okay,

759
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: I need to things are happening so quickly now that

760
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: I was like, I need to rewatch and make sure

761
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 1: I'm downloading everything that just happened. What's kind of cool

762
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: is the movies are now out running the books because

763
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: they never finished writing the books. You know, he's all alive,

764
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: but it isn't finished writing the books. And they're like, hey, dude,

765
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: you get older and you're kind of overweight, so the

766
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: heart is probably pumping a little hard, so and he's

767
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: not right, you know, is he in on it as well? Like?

768
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: Is he going to write the books based on what

769
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: they decided? Mike? Do you know about that? I don't know.

770
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he just stopped writing them, and they're like, hey,

771
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: we need to finish this last season he's like, I

772
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: get to it. Does he after the season? But does

773
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: he then write a longer version of what the show

774
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: wrote own way? I feel, yeah, and we'll just have

775
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: to read it. Did you read you ever read them

776
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: though the game? I haven't haven't either. Did you read

777
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: Harry Potter? I just started reading Harry Potter. I haven't

778
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: read it. Do you like it? Yes? One of my

779
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: friends said that I would love it, and yeah, and

780
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: I think you would, actually you would. Yeah, you should

781
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: read it. I'm not a hater of it at all.

782
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: I just don't get it. It's a quick read. But

783
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: the books are so thick. How are it quick? It's

784
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: so quick? Okay? What do you think you would like him? Though?

785
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: You don't think I would like because it's I mean,

786
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 1: their kids. I think we'll back on it. You wouldn't

787
00:41:55,280 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: get it at this point? Well, I disagree. I think

788
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: that there's some similarities perhaps in Harry's story, or at

789
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: least you can find some common ground that might remind

790
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 1: you of yourself. And I think it's kind of fun

791
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: to put yourself in his shoes, even though now you're

792
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: all grown up up exactly so see, Yeah, you should

793
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: read it. I think It was bigger for me because

794
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: I grew up with them and I read him at

795
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: the same time. It felt like I grew up with

796
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: the characters. So I think, I don't know, going back

797
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: and reading them would be the same effect. Read Hunger

798
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: Games Hunger Games. I did read Hunger Games, love them

799
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: or no? Yeah, they were again easy. I mean it's

800
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: a quick, easy read. I really enjoyed the Hunger Games books.

801
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: The movies are pretty good. Yeah, the first one is great.

802
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: I always find people to go. The movie is not

803
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: as as good as the book. Annoying because they can't

804
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: be as good as a book. The books take us

805
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: weeks and they're super filled with detail. Yeah, and if

806
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: the book was so good that there's a movie, there's

807
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: not really hardly ever a bad book. It's a movie

808
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: made on it. So it's got to be a fantastic

809
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: book for there to be a movie. Most of the time. Yeah,

810
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: he just wasn't as good as a book. Well, No,

811
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: correct is a different medium. I've spent three weeks with

812
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: the book. It's totally a different medium. You want to

813
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: cramp two hours into three. Um. I like the Harry

814
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: Potter are not the the Hunger Games books did you

815
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: do Lord of the Rings. I haven't seen the movies. Yes,

816
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: what do you think? I like the films a lot.

817
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: I watched them because I felt pressured by society. IMDb

818
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: got me because they were like nine nine point eleven

819
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, they're not point eleven. That's not

820
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: even a real number. Tomatoes and one impossible to live

821
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: up to that, regardless of how good at it. And

822
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 1: I thought it was fine. They're long, they are long. Yeah,

823
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: you've got to be ready to buckle down. I buckled

824
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: down over Christmas and we're just like, I'm just gonna

825
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: watch them. They were fine, Mike, Did you like them? Nah?

826
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to really long. And it's a lot of walking.

827
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: It's a lot of walking for a while. Yeah. What's

828
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: the nerd what's the nerdiest thing about you were talking

829
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: about this nerd stuff? What's the nerdiest thing about you? Nerdy? Is?

830
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, because I don't think it's nerdy, but

831
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: I think the bad thing though, No, I do. I

832
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: geek out. I geek out over all things storytelling, whether

833
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: it's film, photography or like I watched all of the credits.

834
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: You are a nerd about? Yeah? And I if we like,

835
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: if I go to the movies, if I go to

836
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: like Bell Court, I am the person that has to

837
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: sit through the entire credits and read everything to get

838
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: an understanding of how their crew worked and what size

839
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: crew and look for names that I might know. So

840
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: I'm that's kind of nerdy, I guess, so yeah, yeah,

841
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: but again I don't think nerdy the bad thing. I'm

842
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: already in a lot of weeks and um yeah, I

843
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: mean like like like stats, encyclopedias. Do you own encyclopedia? Well,

844
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, that's what I would. I

845
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: would save my money and buy it one encyclopedia the

846
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: time and the grocery store until I can afford the

847
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: next one. All I did was read that one encyclopedia.

848
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: So I pretty much read a set of encyclopedias. But

849
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: that's how I got out of my small town. Was

850
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: just learning and crushing like standardized tests. I didn't move

851
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: off at fifteen. I have to figure out why that way. Um,

852
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 1: we're playing this song real quick. How about let's play

853
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: let's do running out of road guess my hearts? Place

854
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: your cheap cheap on this record here and you have

855
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: anough photography background. Did you say that these pictures weren't retouched?

856
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: Are they retouched? Not at all? So you just took

857
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: the pictures and loaded them up. Why was that important

858
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: to you? Uh, it's I think that there's a huge

859
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: pressure right now on people to appear their quote unquote

860
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: best and be filtered. And there's like I had somebody

861
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: recently say something. They were training me for something, and

862
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: they were talking about flyaways and having like scissors and

863
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: like hair spray and stuff for flyaways, and I was like, okay,

864
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: so like that picture, how my hair is kind of

865
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: all over because it's probably not brushed, and we didn't

866
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: like smooth it out, and I I just I think

867
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: that your pores and your flyways and your laugh lines

868
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: is kind of what makes us human. And so for

869
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: the album artwork, I didn't want it to be retouched.

870
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: Like I wanted you to be able to look at

871
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: the skin and be like, oh, there's pores there because

872
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: that's a person's face instead of smoothing everything over. And um,

873
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: I think it would be nice if more people did that,

874
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: especially for like you know, younger girls or even women

875
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: my age or older women, to maybe just alleviate that pressure,

876
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: just a little bit of trying to feel perfect or

877
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: trying to look you know, like they don't look like

878
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: a human. None of these pictures of retouched. H I

879
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: demand every one pages retouched by multiple places. I have

880
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: retouched here and then it's sent another place, then it's

881
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: retouched and then maybe touch it again. That's fine. I

882
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: mean for you know, everybody is different. That's why I

883
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: appear a small Asian man and all my records. You know,

884
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: everybody is different, and for me, I would like for

885
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: all my photos to remain unretouched. Well, I demand all mine, don't.

886
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: One of my one of my friends did. He did

887
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: um Men's Fitness or one of those men's fitness magazines,

888
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: and they took they chopped his head off and put

889
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 1: another dude's body, whole body. Yeah, they can do that

890
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: whole body. And he's famous, and I was like, what

891
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: are they doing? I thought it was hilarious. It's kind

892
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: of fine. Feel free anyone do that to me. You

893
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,959
Speaker 1: want to put me on Mark Wahlberg's body like letter

894
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: rip man, Maybe I can do Sports Illustrated. Then if

895
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: they're just like photoshop at taller, more fit, active person

896
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: with my head when I did the dancing Dance with

897
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: the Stars. They were like, do you want us to

898
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: paint abs on you? Do? Is that weird thing for you?

899
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: I was like, no, paint await, paint has in my back,

900
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: paints on my calf. Yeah, I'm like, let me have it.

901
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: Give me every every kind um, let me read some

902
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: some of the places. Lauren's gonna be Gramsey Theater May

903
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: second in New York, UM, Chattanooga, May six. St. Louis

904
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: on June Louis bo, Kentucky. You're also playing another show

905
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: with me in which tall Kansas is that? Is that

906
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: next week week after? It's funny. No, no, it's not

907
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: till the summer. Yeah, it's not till it's a I've

908
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: had two Kansas things. I think. Yeah, that's kind. I

909
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: know you're all over the place. Yeah, you know. I

910
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: similarly we just kind of watch answers stories and see

911
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: where people are. But you left me the last time

912
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: and went overseas for the first time and to play

913
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: to play, How was that? That was awesome? We did

914
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: uh Berlin, Frankfurt, Hamburg, Amsterdam, London, and my German got better.

915
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: I need to get some more in the vault before

916
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: I go back over because well, yeah, I'm going in September.

917
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, going again. Yeah. I have to make money

918
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: at those shows though, Um yeah, I have no idea

919
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: if I made any money or not, but I do

920
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: know that I met a lot of people, and um

921
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: I have friends also that live in Europe. So that

922
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: was really cool. Did you stay with him? What about

923
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: making money? I mean survive? Yeah, well, I mean come

924
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: a dollar ahead, it's right, right, I just try to,

925
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: you know, eat catering and not by meals. How am I?

926
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: How do I know? She's not fifteen right now? And

927
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: this isn't all elaborate Rose Still, So you went over

928
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: to your up and that was cool? Oh yeah, I

929
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: love How did you find those crowds? They were amazing.

930
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: They listened, Um, people had learned the entire record. Um,

931
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: somebody requested blood off the record and I was like,

932
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: oh wow, okay, they really actually listened to it and

933
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: did their research. I guess I'm playing this song. We

934
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: were playing run Out a Rooud a minute ago. That's

935
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: the short film. Huh yeah, because I guess when we

936
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: had talked last time, you had said it just got

937
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: accepted to a film festival. Yeah, rosswell, film festival. So

938
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm in Kansas in two weeks for I

939
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: think for radio show with your class. That's what it is.

940
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be there, okay, because I'm way

941
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 1: too cool. Actually I'm not too cool. I'm doing American

942
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: eyel and so I couldn't Okay, fine, I couldn't postpone that, fine, fine.

943
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's right. They booked the entire of my

944
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: class and you're gonna go up there and play with

945
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: the radio station and the principle is not even gonna

946
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: be there. Great, I don't like being the principle maybe

947
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: the popular kids. True, But then we're going to actually

948
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: play a show show at an affair. Oh yes, yes,

949
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: it's food and truck or something. Foodn't truck? Is that

950
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: even a thing? Food truck? It's it's the raging idiots

951
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: and the cole Galleant. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. That's

952
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: gonna be fun. But yeah, doing the radio show and

953
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: then going into Mexican and fly into Albuquerque and drive

954
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: from Albuquerque to Rosswell, so what does that mean? When

955
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: a film gets accepted? Like what happens? So that means

956
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: it's in competition. Um, it's an official selection for that

957
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: film festival, and UM, I'm gonna miss the awards ceremony,

958
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: so you want me to get you win, so I

959
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: won't be there to win. Um. But in order to

960
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: qualify for um, since this is a short film for

961
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: the Oscars, for the short film category, you have to

962
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 1: be accepted into a certain number of OSCAR qualifying short

963
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: film festivals. You don't necessarily have to win, but you

964
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: have to be an official selection. So this is the

965
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: first one that qualifies for that. How many of you?

966
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I should know that, but I don't.

967
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: We talked last time. You were just driving over if

968
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 1: I'm remembering right to either Chattanooga or Knoxville to play

969
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: with Willie. What was that? It was in Kentucky and

970
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: in Knoxville. How did that go? Amazing? Yeah? He had

971
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: me come up on stage both nights to sing with

972
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: him in the band, and I was just like, pinch me.

973
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: We sang well the circle be unbroken. Um. We sang

974
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: three songs. What were the other two? My favorite country

975
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: song ever, which is in I talked Three Songs of

976
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: All Time, is Willie Nelson blue Eyes Crying in the Rain.

977
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: It's so good a cry all right. Oh yeah, that's

978
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: that's cool to you get to go up and sing

979
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: with Willie. Yeah, it was awesome. I love this song.

980
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: My favorite songs, and I'm gonna have you do this too.

981
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 1: I'm three no order this one, stop this train, John Mayor,

982
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: and um Ain't No Sunshine, Bill Weathers. Those are my

983
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: three favorite songs. Your turn. I can't do all time

984
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: favorite it changes but right now, but if it changest,

985
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: there's something right now your all time favorites right yeah,

986
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: right now is uh John Mayor. I guess I just

987
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: feel like that's so new. You're putting that into your

988
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: right now all time favorites right now? Yeah, because my

989
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: all time favorites, it's it depends on the day today,

990
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 1: in the mood today. Yeah, John Mary is my favorite.

991
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just He's the first guy that I

992
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: ever heard sing a song and go, oh, I that's me,

993
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: that's me saying that, But it wasn't me. It was

994
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: the first time I've ever experienced someone writing from my voice. Yeah,

995
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: that's crazy, And so I was like, that's my favorite artist.

996
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: He's so good on the same way, Okay, you can

997
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: have this one. Give me something else that don't love

998
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: Bruce Springstein do. Yeah. Actually, that's one on my all

999
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: time right now is Secret Garden by Springsteen. Show Me

1000
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 1: the Money, Jerry the Human Head was that's that's yeah. Yeah,

1001
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 1: it isn't that yeah from there's a whole version of

1002
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: it with all the movie clips. I don't listen to that.

1003
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: You complete me. Yeah, they had the movie version. Don't

1004
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: ruin it, don't thing, because the whole thing back in

1005
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: the day was to take movie clips and put it.

1006
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 1: This song Becau was in the soundtrack. Is from the soundtrack.

1007
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: I don't know if it has it. Okay, no movie

1008
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: clo this, but this is a jam. It's so good.

1009
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. Did you watch the Springsteen Netflix special. I've

1010
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: seen half of it. It's long. I started it. I

1011
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: was in New York and I just started crying within

1012
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: the first two minutes, and I had to be up

1013
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: super early, so I was like, I can't stay up

1014
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: and watch all of this. Well, it's still up. This

1015
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: is the Broadway show. I guess it's not going anymore.

1016
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: They stopped. It was just like one of his last shows.

1017
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: I know, I really wanted to go tickets where like

1018
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: eight Yeah, I couldn't do it. You ever got a

1019
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: Boadway show. Let me have a song of each other? Song?

1020
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: First ahead, um, third song, Uh, Rainbow Kitten's surprise, fever Pitch.

1021
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 1: Is that even a real thing? Are you just yelling

1022
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: words at this point? She's just it's a real thing. Yeah,

1023
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: I want to take Monster Key, Lime Pie Sunshine. What

1024
00:55:55,680 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: is this here? Rainbow Kittens surprise the band rain bout

1025
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: Kittens surprised. Yeah, okay, and it's the song is called

1026
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: fever Pitch. Okay, let me hear that. Carolina when it

1027
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: takes mom and get into this. What's uh? What's how

1028
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: you define them? Um? I found them through uh. I

1029
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: believe it was Jared Hogan, who's a director. UM did

1030
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: their music video and it's the bomb. It's so awesome.

1031
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: And so they're a band. They're a band out of

1032
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 1: North Carolina. Actually boom, really cool. It's like this weird

1033
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: blend of I don't know, like mountain music meets rock

1034
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: meets kind of country. Yeah, I can get into it.

1035
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: Lotle nozas all town road country or not? Is this

1036
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: the thing that everybody's talking about? The song? Everyone was

1037
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: talking I don't know about everyone, but it was trending

1038
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: on Twitter. It's still a massive song. It's uh yeah,

1039
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: here you go. Is this the Billy Ray's version? Here

1040
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 1: you go. Take a listen, Country so far, help me

1041
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: to it? Country so far? No, Yeah, take my I'm

1042
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: gonna right till I came no more. I'm gonna take

1043
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: mouse tell little banjo in there a little Billy Ray

1044
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: Cyrus sounds like a program banjo got the overseas in

1045
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: the bag. Horseto is man is mad black God? No

1046
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: boss black Man. I'm asking, what do you think this is?

1047
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: It's it's I'm sure the kids some kids like it.

1048
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. You have no answer.

1049
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I'm on the side

1050
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: of when people tell me something's not country, I just

1051
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: go always short is. I hate you? I hate people

1052
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: assigning art. I get such a and what's what does

1053
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: the country music mean? What does it mean anyway? Except

1054
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: for me, it just means, hey, they're like being authentic

1055
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: about what they're saying. I almost don't care what the

1056
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: instrument is, because every instrument is used, even the most

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00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: country guys are using, for example, programmed banjos. That happens

1058
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah to me to me, country is um, Really,

1059
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: the narrative has to be the core because pop does

1060
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: this really great job of kind of getting whatever the

1061
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: emotion is, but not really telling the narrative as much.

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00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: It's more about the emotion and the field and you know,

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00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: instrumentation obviously. But with a country song, it is a story.

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00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: So that's that's sort of how I differentiate. Well, there's

1065
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: definitely a story told in that song. He's living alone,

1066
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: he's a cowboy hat, he's done the whole thing. Well,

1067
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: it's not the details. If they tell the whole stories,

1068
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: get lean this bladder. Yeah, yeah. For me, it's uh,

1069
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: people ask me this all the time. That's what everybody

1070
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: wants interview about what country My answers, I don't know.

1071
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: There's not an answer. That's whatever it is means to you. Yeah, Um,

1072
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: that's what I was just wondering how he felt about

1073
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: this song. That's the country song I've ever heard. For

1074
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: the record, you can't get any countrier than that. Can't

1075
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: tell me nothing. Yeah, let me let me hear this one.

1076
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: This is from Lauren. This is called my Bar. You

1077
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't know this you Let's just take my barn A

1078
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: strong good film what's um. Well, you're playing shows in

1079
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: the road and idea. Do you have a band yet? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

1080
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: I just did Tortuga Fest. How that's fun. Huh. It

1081
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: was really good. I played that one. It's fun. Swam

1082
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: in the ocean, you're right on the beach. Yeah, it's great,

1083
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: it's warm, there was sunshine. Yeah, that's um in Fort Laudado, right, yeah, yeah,

1084
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: it's a good one. Yeah, it was really fun. I

1085
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: would I would encourage people to go to that. Some

1086
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: festivals you go to and the sisters s Showman, Yes,

1087
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: that's a fun one. Um. Have you ever been to

1088
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: a couch music festival like Ben as a as a fan?

1089
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: Because I really haven't. No, I've never been as a fan.

1090
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not a big I'm not cool enough

1091
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: to go to a festival. I actually haven't been to

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01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: that many festivals. I think I've only been to one

1093
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: that's not really a festival. I just go sleep in

1094
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: my bed. Yeah. I went to a c L A bunch.

1095
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: There was all kinds of music at a c L festival.

1096
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: I did a c L this year, too, did you well?

1097
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: I did a c L live during South By Its okay,

1098
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: so no, not the same a C like five different

1099
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: it's like five different creations. Um. A cl Festival is

1100
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: a massive festival at Zilker Park. Yeah, and it's two

1101
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: weekends now right, and the artists have to agree to

1102
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: come back both weekends. It was a part of it,

1103
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: and they can't play within the radius for two I

1104
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: guess most like these other ones, but that was one

1105
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: of the first double weekend. Yeah, they like sorry, like

1106
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: four years ago, I think. Yeah, well listen, I would

1107
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: do that, we bet. Yeah, it's great. Austin's the best Austin.

1108
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: You've been Austin? Yeah, I just I just told you.

1109
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: I just went to south By. Yeah, but I mean

1110
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: they've been to Austin. That's yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's when

1111
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: we would all roll our eyes. Okay, Yes, my friend

1112
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: Drago lives in Austin. That dear friend all of us got.

1113
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: We had that connection. Dango was in Amy my co

1114
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: host best Friends wedding party. She was one of his

1115
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: groomsman grooms may bridesman. Yeah, brides. How do you know Django? Uh?

1116
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: They met him through music music. Yeah, it's good to know.

1117
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: The fellow Texans. Well, look at you, you're you're out.

1118
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: We've we've talked for an hour? Has it been an hour? Wow,

1119
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm a real treat talk to you. So they felt

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Speaker 1: like ten minutes. It does seem like, yeah, starting away,

1121
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: you go. I would encourage you to check out Lawrence

1122
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: record called No Saint and this is give Up, the

1123
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: ghost song that we started talking about here. Mike, how

1124
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: do we feel abou Lauren Jenkins? Feel good? Yeah? A

1125
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: good one. Yeah, that's what happened. People leave and we go,

1126
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: how we feel about that one? I've just been heard

1127
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: of the person. You just can it if it's we

1128
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: put up immediately it goes up. There's some real turds, okay,

1129
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: because honestly, thinking there a sound, we go. It's a

1130
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: tough one. Um. The cool thing that was we've gotten

1131
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: some really great ones early and like people's career at

1132
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: this point, we've been This is episode one seventy two,

1133
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: and we did it for years, and we were doing

1134
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: it just a passion project because I just love songwriters

1135
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,479
Speaker 1: and i'd like to and I love interviews where people

1136
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: want to listen for an hour they can, they don't,

1137
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: they can here twenty minutes and now this has a

1138
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: huge art. The listening of this podcast is so large

1139
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: that I would equate. I think that a podcast with

1140
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: with dedicated listeners at times is more powerful than my show,

1141
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: which has millions of people, where there's a big selection

1142
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: of passive listeners. Debian said, I do a talk show,

1143
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: so not super fair because I'm talking, and if people

1144
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: weren't staying, I wouldn't have ratings. But for a syndicated show,

1145
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: it's almost like you'd rather be on a podcast with

1146
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: a fifth because people that are in are all the

1147
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: way in. People right now I have their headphones in,

1148
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: they're running or they're too What do you what do

1149
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: you like? Any podcasts? Uh? W TF? I'm gonna recommend

1150
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: you one. This disgreat lamp podcast you never listen to

1151
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: that haven't yet. It may be the greatest podcast ever heard,

1152
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: not even on my network. And I have, like many

1153
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: podcasts have on the network five five, six, five or six.

1154
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: I've that's a podcast not even online. No benefit to

1155
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: me whatsoever. I love music. I love music history. And

1156
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: he he talks to people about He's not two people.

1157
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: He tells stories of these people in the crimes that

1158
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: they've kind of committed. It's like James Brown his life.

1159
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: It's like share. It's they're so good. Disgrace Lands. I

1160
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: can recommend, might do anything, any podcast you want to recommend.

1161
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: I just started listening to that a lot more. I

1162
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: went back and listened to like the Sam Cook One Man,

1163
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: That's crazy, It's so good. That's a good one, Disgrace Land.

1164
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: And then I listened to the dropout. I don't know

1165
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: what that is about. Um, the Thanos Lady. Oh, I

1166
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: watched that on an HBO. Did you see that the

1167
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: Sarren knows. Yeah, that's that's a bad guy. I was like,

1168
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: that's a that's the podcast. Um you watch Avengers? Have

1169
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: you seen those movies? Yeah? I think so. No, you're

1170
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: so cool. Um, maybe anyfo you're using the name products

1171
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: a name bar products would be familiar with everything I

1172
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: try out. I'm like, so, are you familiar with Apple? No?

1173
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: It still the Commodore sixty four? All right, listen. Lauren

1174
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: Jenkins on Instagram at Lauren Jenkins. I am, I am

1175
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: Lauren Jens. I am yeah, sure, I am. Well there

1176
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: you have it. You're you're a real treat. Thanks for

1177
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: having me. Thank God, you're you're a friend now as

1178
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: I've been to the house, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess

1179
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: mostly we have been on the road together. Yes, I'm

1180
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: glad to have you over the house, but I'm not

1181
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: scared that you're gonna come. You know, I'm totally crashing

1182
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: up and you know what, you know, when you're not here,

1183
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: have at it. I'm having to come a moral day party,

1184
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: I think not on Memorial Day, but like the Sunday.

1185
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: So because everybody just back in town. Yeah, why are

1186
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: you not on the road tonight? It's Friday night? I

1187
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: don't know. Oh, I was supposed to go. I was

1188
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: supposed to be out of town um to shoot a

1189
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: music video for a friend for that got moved. So

1190
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm here this weekend here too, and we had to

1191
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 1: move something from last were supposed this last night and

1192
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: then I got moved. Did you know that I did? Not? Okay?

1193
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: Well the end, Lauren Jenkins, check out No Saint and

1194
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: we'll see you next time. Everybody, by bye.