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Speaker 1: And a good afternoon everybody, and welcome once again the

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Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff live here on Giants dot com. The

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Speaker 1: number has always the call is two oh one nine

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Speaker 1: four five one three. I am Rus Salzburg, joined by

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Speaker 1: my colleague and good friend two times Super Bowl champion

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Speaker 1: David Deal. And David as we always like to say,

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Speaker 1: nothing nothing makes you feel better like some good old

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Speaker 1: It's just you know, you know that everybody's got a

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Speaker 1: Now they're looking forward to, you know, the the Tennessee

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Speaker 1: I really like about the Giants attitude, And you know,

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Speaker 1: we were talking to them in the locker room today,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is. Listen, it's obviously they need all kinds

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Speaker 1: their games. And if they don't I said this yesterday Dave,

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Speaker 1: fundamentals and details of the new schemes. But number two

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Speaker 1: this Giant's team, for where they fought themselves out where

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Speaker 1: what they do from here on out. And you're a

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Speaker 1: hund percent correct, do you hate the cliche? You know,

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Speaker 1: one game at a time, that's all you can do

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Speaker 1: That's what they're doing right now. You know. Two, go

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Speaker 1: Our number two oh one nine four five one three.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to our buddy up in Canton, New York. Dylan. Hello, Dylan,

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Speaker 1: you're on with Russ and Dave. How are you doing today?

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Speaker 1: My friend? Hey, how are you guys doing? What's up? But? Um,

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Speaker 1: I've said a couple of topics to discuss. One of them, UM,

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Speaker 1: to take a you know, a road trip. Uh yeah,

426
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: you know, they know how to behave They know what

427
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: it's like to take an overnight trip and you know,

428
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: get ready for a game the next morning, and you

429
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 1: know all that's pretty important, I think in terms of

430
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: putting together a team. And I know that that seems

431
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 1: to be coach Scherman's favorite line these days. You know,

432
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: teams beat teams, and so you gotta be you know,

433
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: but you need a group of people who can do that.

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Speaker 1: You know, let me just interject something. We're talking about

435
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: the new guys, and that's all fine and dandy, but

436
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 1: I think one of the guys who doesn't receive enough

437
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: credit in the locker room remaining the locker room and

438
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: and uh being what it is, is old number ten

439
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: there Eli, Because Eli, Eli put up with all the

440
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: slings and arrows, all the bullets. He had a target

441
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 1: on his back, on his front, on his forehead. He

442
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: took all the crab had to listening to all the bs.

443
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: And you know what, like I said, I've said this, David,

444
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: not just in sports. I have not known ever somebody

445
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: more on an even keel than Eli Manning, I mean never,

446
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: and I think that has a lot to do. Listen,

447
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: you know, um Ernie. Of course he always says the

448
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: quarterback is the lightning rod. Good better at different that's

449
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 1: the lightning rod. And and Eli knows that. But with

450
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: a lot of other people, if they weren't made of

451
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: the right stuff that ellis made of, that they could

452
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: have crumbled. And therefore then the locker room gets a

453
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: little disjointed. This did not happen, so deserves credit. He's

454
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: he's not only a physically tough guy. And we know

455
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: that from you know, the number of games in a

456
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: row that he's played. And I hope I'm not chasing

457
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: him by saying that. I think I think that's something

458
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: that we should give him credits for that he's hung

459
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: around for all these games and we can count on

460
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: him every Sunday to give us a chance when he

461
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: gets out on the field. Um, but he's also you know,

462
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: I always had the feeling this guy is mentally tough.

463
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: I mean, the last play is behind you, it's onto

464
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: the next play, and I think he's got a short memory.

465
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: I think this guy just thinks about converting on the

466
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 1: next play and put the last play out of your mind.

467
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: And I think he's probably that way in the huddle

468
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: to David, No doubt you would know. You would know

469
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: because you've been there with him, no doubt. I mean,

470
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: because you can't let that one play affect the rest

471
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: of the game, because if you do, that's when it's

472
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 1: quicksand and it pulls you in. And Yeah, I think

473
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: that cominess, I think that toughness is important. Hey, let

474
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: me single out three guys, and I just want to

475
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: really really kind of a shout out to generas Jenkins, Ogletree,

476
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: and Vernon. I know there's some discussion yesterday about whether, uh,

477
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: you know, you bring Vernon back, you bring Jenkins back,

478
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. You know, the last six or

479
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: seven weeks, let's let's say six weeks, if there's been

480
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: a better cornerback in the NFL than Jenorris Jenkins, if

481
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: there's been a better lineback, or if anybody's played better

482
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: than either of Ogiltree, Jenkins or even Olivier Vernon, I'd

483
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: be hard pressed to find one. They have had five

484
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: or six great weeks. I mean, Jenkins is just yeah, yeah,

485
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: just he's a shutdown. You know, you can't. I mean,

486
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: you got to pay somebody next year, you might as

487
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: well pay you might as well, you know, play players. Yeah,

488
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: but you can't pay everybody. And just just to bring

489
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: um David up today. Part of the discussion yesterday, somebody

490
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: asked about Jenkins and o v uh and you know,

491
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: Jeff brought up the point which he says it's going

492
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: to come down to business and dollars. And I don't

493
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: think both of them stay. That's that's just my gut feeling.

494
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: But think about what you've just said, lend he said

495
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: the last five or six games, Well, they just won

496
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: four to the last five. Listen, Ovie was hurt. Okay,

497
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: Ovie was hurt. Jenkins. You know, certainly the first half

498
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: was not a good first half. Listen. You know, when

499
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: you're playing bad, the results are bad. When you're playing well,

500
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: the results are grand. You know. That's why you got

501
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: four out of the last five. Yeah. Yeah, Well these

502
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: guys are on a roll here. Uh and there's no reason.

503
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I you know we can, we should win

504
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: this game on Sunday. Um, you know we got a

505
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: home game here. Um, we got to start a star

506
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: Blachina home reputation. You know, David, you know you might

507
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: speak to that if you if you could for just

508
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: thirty seconds. I just think it's important to win home games,

509
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: not just some of the season ticket holder and I

510
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: want to leave the stadium happy, but I just think

511
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: it's important for a team. I want when people come

512
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: into this stadium next year, I want him to say, wow,

513
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: that those guys are a tough home team. You know,

514
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: you look at places like Seattle and New England and Pittsburgh,

515
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: you know, look at look at New Orleans. I mean

516
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: there's so much better at home than they are on

517
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: the road. You say the same thing about this Tennessee

518
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: Titans team. Yeah, two and five on the road, five

519
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,479
Speaker 1: and one at home. Yeah, there you go, there you go.

520
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: We got it. We got a team that doesn't play

521
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 1: well on the road. Uh, you know, let's go out

522
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: and win this game, begin to establish an identity at home,

523
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, maybe get the next two after that,

524
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: at least the Dallas one, because you know, again in division,

525
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: we want to win that game. And hey, thanks for

526
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: taking my call, Giants, and let's let these next three

527
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: you important. We're gonna see we're really going to be

528
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: able to make a determination about progress from seventeen to eighteen.

529
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: I think over these next three weeks, all right, my friends, Okay,

530
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: thank you Lennon, thank you. I mean that is a

531
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: lifelong oh yeah, that's fifty whatever games now that he's

532
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: been to it at FedEx or something like YEA or

533
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: or in including RFK or whatever. No, I mean, that's

534
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: that is a great fist till the end. And he

535
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: made sure to tell you that he stayed till the end.

536
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: But you know, it was interesting what he was saying. Yeah,

537
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: they they've had really good five or six games. Well

538
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: they've just out of five. What has been optimistic all year? Though, No,

539
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,239
Speaker 1: he's been that's a good fan. I've always said this

540
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: as a kid, growing up, young adult, I never booed

541
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: my teams. I would. The only time you boo to

542
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: me is if a guy or a team is being dogs,

543
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: if they're not trying, if they're not giving, or they

544
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: do something bad or stupid. It's the same thing when

545
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: I'm calling a game, like if something happens and somebody

546
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: doesn't do something or they get beat, that's one thing.

547
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: But if there's just a complete loaf and the lack

548
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: of effort, that's what you can never excuse. I couldn't

549
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: agree with you more. But you know, like um Wellington

550
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: Mara always used to say this. He used to say

551
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: that to his son, who's now, you know, the president

552
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: of the team. They're trying their best and is if

553
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: they're trying their best, there's no reason to boo. You

554
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: can be unhappy with the results. But as I've said

555
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: many times, these are professionals. They don't like going out

556
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: making horses rear ends in themselves. They like winning. It

557
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: makes them feel a whole lot better two oh one

558
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: four or five one three is the number. Gotta remind

559
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: every buddy here that Big Blue Kickoff Live is presented

560
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,440
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561
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562
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: of this two thousand and eighteen Big Blue campaign. Let's

563
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: go down to Florida and check in with Kevin. Kevin,

564
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: how are we doing today? You are on with Russ

565
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: and David. Hey, great guys, listen. I really wanted to

566
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: ask out, you know, David deal. There seemed to be

567
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: a difference of opinion as to the effect that Jamal

568
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: Brown has had on the offensive line. I'm of the

569
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: opinion it was like a godsend to the team. But

570
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: there seemed to be some difference out being that that's

571
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: your old position. I'm wondering that, what's your take on it?

572
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: What's the reason? What are you saying? People would say that,

573
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: what's the difference of opinion? Kevin? This we haven't heard.

574
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: Oh I heard I heard John yesterday kind of saying

575
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, well, you know he sent and you know

576
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: not you know not to maybe the you know, the

577
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: smart plug that you know, people thought he was and uh,

578
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't heard that. Well, listen, listen. I

579
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: I think that there's areas where he can improve, especially

580
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: in the passing game. You know, when you're a bigger

581
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: frame and a maller where running game is your strength

582
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: like it is for him. The thing that you have

583
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: to worry about in the passing game when you get

584
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: into positions like I'm sure that they were talking about

585
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: more in the Eagles game where he was beat a

586
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: couple of times, was that you have to make sure

587
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: that you are staying inside out and get that inside

588
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: leverage with your hands, because when it comes to that

589
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: and a guy like him, with his strength, they get

590
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: your hands on you, it's over. But when you get

591
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: your feet caught and you're not great with your hands,

592
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: that's where it works to the strength of a defensive

593
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: tackle to work those moves and to try to work

594
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: those edges because you're not the quickest the foot. So

595
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: those are things that I'm sure that he's going to

596
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: continue to improve on. But to sit here and say

597
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: that he hasn't completely helped and changed the dynamic of

598
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: this offensive line and the attitude and the way that

599
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: they've been running the football would be it would be

600
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: not a fact little statement. Whatso left? Yeah, I mean,

601
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: I think I don't know if it's unanimous, but it's

602
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: it's nine in favor of Jamon Brown since he's come

603
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: in and he's also only twenty four years old. We're

604
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 1: not I'm not sitting here seeing that he's playing right

605
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: nowaday Pro Bowl level. But he's playing good and he's

606
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: continuing to get better and it's only going to get

607
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: better as he gets more comfortable with the guys next

608
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: to him. Yeah, I mean, it just seemed to me

609
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: that the moment he got onto the offensive line, it's

610
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: like the offensive it's like they got a burst of

611
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: energy that they had had and uh, you know, I

612
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: just maybe I misunderstood what was being said. I just

613
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: didn't hear it. What other observation, Uh, if anyone is

614
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: not sold on Pat Schumer as a coach, look at

615
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: where the Giants are going right now, and look where

616
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: Minnesota is going right now with their offense. That often

617
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: to tuck you everything you need to know. Uh, they

618
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: got an upgraded quarterback and Kirk and Kirk cousins, and

619
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: they fired their offensive coordinator yesterday and year Shermer had

620
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: them in the NFC title game. So if anybody is

621
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: still uncertain about Pat Shermer, I think that should be

622
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: put the rest immediately. That's that, Uh, you know, that's

623
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: that should tell you all you need to know about,

624
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,959
Speaker 1: you know, the impact he has on the team. Alright, Kav,

625
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: thank you very much. I don't think you You're certainly

626
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: not gonna get any dispute from myself and David on that.

627
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: I I think uh and and Sherman more than anybody,

628
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: you know, we can talk about the players. Shermer, you know,

629
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: stayed the course. I mean, he had to deal with

630
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: a lot of nonsensical, quite frankly dumb questions and remarks, uh,

631
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: weekend and week out. Whether the storm got bristled a

632
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: little bit over them, and rightfully so. But he's standing

633
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: tall right now and rightfully so let's go up to

634
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: Albany check in with Bruce. Spruce. You're wrong with Russ

635
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: and David. How are you doing? Bruce? Very it? You know,

636
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm very happy with this team because it's entertainment and

637
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: only one team is gonna win the championship. I didn't

638
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: expect that this year anyway, but I'm having fun watching

639
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: this team and you know, I think last year people

640
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: would pay to see Odell Beckham because you're getting to

641
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: see greatness and you never know what he's gonna do,

642
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: but you know he's gonna do something. And now with Barkley,

643
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. People are willing to pay to

644
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: see that because not everybody's gonna win. I don't think

645
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: many same people expected to go all the way this year,

646
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: not from the record there. Of course there were three

647
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: and thirteen. They weren't going from worst to first. And

648
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, Bruce, as a fan of football

649
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: who's watching the NFL my entire life, long before I

650
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: was a player, It's always great to see an unbelievable

651
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver. But grown up, wasn't it awesome to watch

652
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: the guys like Walter Payton, the guys like Barry Sanders.

653
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: There's just something about a running back running the football

654
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: that just symbolizes the NFL forum. Well, well, you know what, Bruce,

655
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna remind David here. I mean, he's a little

656
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: younger than me. You talk about the Windy City, Jim Brown,

657
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: I mean, how about the Kansas comments. Yeah, Gayl says, Yeah,

658
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what when I look at Gayl Sairs.

659
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: When I think of Gayl Sairs at that point and time,

660
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: I think he might have been. He had the he

661
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: might before he was injured. He was as exciting as

662
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: as anybody ever was. He was the one guy who

663
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: was The Bears played at Wrigley, right, Yeah, they played

664
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: at Wrigley during his time. He could go. No, they

665
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: played it Soldiers towards the end, but in the beginning

666
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: it was Wriggle. He could go from like make a

667
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: ninety degree cut and not lose a step, you know,

668
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, no. But David's point is how exciting

669
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: is it to watch? You're right? You know some these

670
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: running backs. I mean you mentioned before Barry Sanders and

671
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: Eric Dickerson. I mean, yeah, come on. Well, somebody said

672
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: something that I had never heard before a couple of

673
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: years ago, and he said, you have to understand something.

674
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: The fans care more more about winning and losing that

675
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: most of the players don't. I've never heard that before.

676
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: But you look at this team and I don't know

677
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 1: where they got these guys from, because half it seems

678
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: like they got him during the season. And I can't

679
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: even describe this defense. I mean, they have a couple

680
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: of stars out there. I mean, I think uh our

681
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: cornerback uh Sonoris Jenkins, he's playing at an extremely high level.

682
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: He's just taking receivers out of the game. But the

683
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: rest of the team, they're just swarming. I don't even

684
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: know how to describe. They don't have a lot of stars.

685
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: I mean b J. Hill maybe a future star, but

686
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to describe that defense. They're

687
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: playing with confidence and with energy. And what happens? Did

688
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: they always talk about him? You fly around and run

689
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: to the football, good things happen. Yep. They're little there.

690
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: The defensive backs are tiny, but boy they're fast and

691
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: they're tenacious and they hit. You know, they're good. They're

692
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: tackling well now and boy they're they're just feeding off

693
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: each other. It's great capitalizing on the opportunity of playing. No. Look, look, Bruce,

694
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: I mean the one guy on defense who you know,

695
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: I think we would all agree is a star is

696
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: Landon Collins. Albeit he's hurt now, but yeah, I thought

697
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: he was progressing in coverage this year. And then you

698
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: know he gets beat deep. Which game is he lets

699
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: the star receiver get deep on him, and it's like,

700
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: I don't understand that. I just we all know that

701
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: he's better when he's playing downhill towards the line of

702
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: scrimmage and drop him back in coverage. That's we're moving

703
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: forward with this football team with him and what they

704
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: do next to him at the free safety position. That

705
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: can't be a position where it's not a solidified starter

706
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: with experience to where you don't have to have him

707
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: play coverage and you can use him more as the

708
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: Buchan know more of the ty around Matthew and have

709
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: him more involved at the boxing and blitz packages. He's

710
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: also the best tackler on the team. He is well.

711
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: I wish I wish they let him put on the

712
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: h He actually wants to be a little bit bigger.

713
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: I think let him get up the too thirty and

714
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: play linebacker because you see a lot of these linebackers

715
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: now he's the's outside linebackers, they're not all that big.

716
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: He he can blitz, he's great tackler, he fights off blocks.

717
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: I don't think he needs to be to forty. At

718
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: to thirty, he's still he'd be dynamite as a linebacker.

719
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: I don't know with the way the teams are playing

720
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: all their different three wides and different stuff. That's where

721
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: you go big nicol and you don't need to put

722
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: on the way and you just stay where you're at. Alright, bro, Well,

723
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm very happy with the product. And uh, one last thing.

724
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: What is the head coaches job other than manage the

725
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: entire processes? He like the CEO, what does he do?

726
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: He's not coaching positions in general? He's the boss of

727
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: the team. Right, He's like, he's like a business manager.

728
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: He's a lot of business management. He's a he's overseeing everything.

729
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: He's not really Uh he does call his own place. Yeah. Yeah.

730
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,479
Speaker 1: He sits in the offensive meetings and in the meeting

731
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: room with them. Yeah yeah. Like if you're trying to say,

732
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: what does he just sit back and let everybody do

733
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: and he doesn't have input? I mean that's a big mistake. Well,

734
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: he's getting his kind of guys on the team, and

735
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: I think that's what talents are. You're going to either

736
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: either gonna play the way he wants you to or

737
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: he's gonna get ridy regardless of talent. He's got a

738
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: good bunch there, Yes, yes he does. Thanks for the call, Bruce.

739
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: I appreciate it that Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean,

740
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: if you want to talk about the CEO in terms

741
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: of putting the structure of the corporation together, you can

742
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: say that's rest in the hands of Dave Gettleman and

743
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: then uh, and I don't know, I've never thought about

744
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: it that way. That kind of too much process. I mean,

745
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: sometimes we can overthink that we're going to go into

746
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: office space. What would you say you do here? You know, Okay,

747
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: you sitting that covey and I'm sitting this covey. You

748
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: know you mentioned he was talking about linebackers before. You

749
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: know which one guy? Uh, David Like, I'm really happy

750
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: for because he was getting a lot of heat even

751
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: on the record, and and you know the subtle remarks underneath,

752
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: and you know what, he's really stepped though you want

753
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: to talk about the last few games or whatever, he

754
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: has really stepped the question. I mean, that's when you

755
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: are a trade like you are in the first rounder

756
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: and come in with the type of impact that you do,

757
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: they expect plays made out of you. And he wasn't

758
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: perfect in the beginning. I'm sure that people are going

759
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: to go back. We'll look at the one catchy gave

760
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: up against the Panthers against Christian McCaffrey, and it's coverage.

761
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 1: He's tightening those things up, and once again the water

762
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,959
Speaker 1: goes along. With a lot of that is being able

763
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: to take so much of that responsibility of the defense

764
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: off your plate now because everybody else around you understands

765
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: what you're trying to do. In a three four where

766
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: he came from, we're not everybody on this defense played

767
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 1: in the three or four before, So he's directing everybody.

768
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: It doesn't allow you to be as aggressive as you

769
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: sometimes want to be. Yeah. No, No, our trustee producer here,

770
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: Dave Dominic, you know, did some homework. You know what

771
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: that is something that I did not recall. Well, I

772
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: did not recall them playing Wrigley Field. You know, you're

773
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. But from one from nineteen twenty one to

774
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy, they played at Wrigley and then it Soldier Field. Um. Yeah,

775
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 1: but and the reason was because they moved because the

776
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: a f L NFL merger required stadiums to see over

777
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: like fifty thousand. Wrigley Field had forty two thousand seats.

778
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: Pretty interesting. So then from seventy one to two thousand

779
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: and one, uh, they were at Soldier Field. But then

780
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: for why did they go to Memorial Stadium? They came

781
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 1: to play where I went to the school, University of Illinois.

782
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: I'll never forget waking up and they were renovating. Yeah,

783
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: I'll never forget waking up on a Monday morning for school,

784
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: like at like seven am, and like smelling all the

785
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: Bears and Packers fans tailgating from Monday night football on campus.

786
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: It was a really cool experience. But yeah, if you

787
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: go back and watch that, you know, you see old

788
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: Dick Buckets and and Mike Dick. You could see the

789
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 1: Wrigley Field wall behind him, super crunch. Oh my god,

790
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: I remember they used to be a story. I forget

791
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: who who was, you know, like this is scrum on

792
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: the floor and somebody said, yeah, yeah, it's sort of

793
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: the great things that I've gotten to meet him. His nephew,

794
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: Luke is one of my really close friends who's played

795
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: at center for me next to me at the University

796
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: of Illinois, and he's actually the old line coach in

797
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: Illinois right now. And if you think about Dick Buckets

798
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: and all that attitude in that mentality, oh that's really

799
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: who he is. In real life. He's a tough guy.

800
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: But I remember, uh LT Lawrence Taylor was asked who

801
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 1: he thought were like the top three football players ever

802
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 1: and he goes like this gives it a pensive thought.

803
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: He goes Jim Brown, Dick Buckers, and me, and I

804
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: don't know that. I'll never forget uh a couple of

805
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: I mean, this is probably nine ten years ago, and

806
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: that's even longer than that going back, and they had

807
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: to separate Bucks and Nisky at one of our alumni events.

808
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: Then still they still had the Packers Bears, the whole thing,

809
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: those egos literally their old men over their argument get

810
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: pulled the part an event. Yeah, no, I mean, I mean, listen,

811
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: those are the h I mean you you know, listen,

812
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: they played a different football there. They played a completely

813
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: different and you know when we talk about you know,

814
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: injuries and this and that, those were the guys that

815
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: said no, no no, not come and shoot me up. You know,

816
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: they they were fearless about their bodies. They didn't. They

817
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 1: just completely different. That's a complete, completely completely different time,

818
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: you know, much much different. But anyway, two o one

819
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: four five one three is the number. What do you

820
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: think about this week's game? And you know, and and

821
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 1: then the question remains, what's gonna happen with Odell? Because

822
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: Odell is not practicing today. Yeah, we we heard that

823
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: he's not practicing today. So obviously it would be a

824
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: huge addition to have him back at home with this

825
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: team that's coming in that's still hungry to try to

826
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: fight and get into the playoff mix us. But when

827
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: you look at the difference between this Titans team, especially

828
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball, it's like completely

829
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 1: two ends of the spectrum. At home five and one

830
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 1: plus thirty four point turn our point differential, their turnover

831
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: differentials plus two how many giveaways three? Now let's go

832
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: on the road two and five point differential minus thirty

833
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: seven turnover difference minus six giveaways on the offensive side

834
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 1: of the ball twelve. So it's been two different teams.

835
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: So for this Giant's football team, especially on the offensive

836
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,919
Speaker 1: side of the ball, get things going, but also defensively,

837
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: maintain gap discipline and star getting some hits on Marcus

838
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: Mariota because you know that this is a game where

839
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna try to use him and use his legs

840
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: to force the defense to play eleven on eleven football

841
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: let me let me ask you a question, Dave, Like

842
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: I get, you know, home field advantage. I really, you know,

843
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: it's it's understandable. You got your home crowd behind you, noise.

844
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: Uh listen. I don't think there's a tougher a better

845
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: home field any place than up in Seattle. From what

846
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: I'm told, it's the loudest, it's the loudest. But does

847
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: it mean make such a difference to individual to players, like, like,

848
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: you know where I understand where For example, home in

849
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 1: a way might be different if you used to play

850
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: in in a dome and then you go and you know,

851
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: I get that, but why why is it that way?

852
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: Is it just you know, yeah, it's it's hard to

853
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: sit here and determine because it's so different for every team.

854
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: Like I mean, look, in two thousand and seven, we

855
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: want eleven straight games on the road. We were a

856
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: much better team on the road than we were at home,

857
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: especially in the fourth quarters and being able to come

858
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: away with big games. We were the road warriors. And

859
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: for some reason for that year, I don't know what

860
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: it was that clicked on us on the road, the

861
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: underdog mentality, the feeling of having an entire stadium of

862
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: seventy or eighty or ninety thousand people completely silent. At

863
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: the end of the game, we just played better. I

864
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: think that for that season when our backs were against

865
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: the wall. For some teams, it's the opposite. Some teams

866
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: go on the road, they don't have the comfort of

867
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: their home crowd, they don't deal with crowd noise. Well,

868
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, you have one negative play here, one negative

869
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: play there. Now all of a sudden you're trying to

870
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: chase the chains, and if you're facing a good opponent,

871
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 1: that's the last thing that you want to be doing

872
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: on the road. But at the same point, isn't isn't

873
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: it not true? And I don't know if you've ever

874
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: gone through that, but a lot of times when things

875
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: aren't going well for you, for you and your team

876
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: and the home crowd and the media and fans, that

877
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: everybody can be on your ass. Okay, Sometimes when you

878
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: go away and you're on the road, you're together in

879
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: that hotel room, you're together flying, and you're away from

880
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: all the noise, and it's a bonding experience. And I

881
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: don't think I don't think it's just um football. I

882
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: think sometimes another sports road trips do that too. Okay,

883
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: let's get away from it. That's why we don't have

884
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 1: traded camps at other places to get away and get

885
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: away from that stuff. But but all it's just it

886
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: depends on what type of football team that you are

887
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: in and where you're at in your football season. But yeah,

888
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: that definitely could be a part of it is that,

889
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: you know, there's when you're on the road. I mean,

890
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: there's no distractions. You land at the airport, you go

891
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: to the hotel, you have your meetings, you wake up,

892
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: you go to the stadium, you fly out that night.

893
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: It's that easy. It's a business trip. Let's go to

894
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania and speak with Ken. Can you're on with Russ

895
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,919
Speaker 1: and David? How are we doing today? My friend? Good?

896
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: How are you guys doing good? I just wanted to

897
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: call in Dr Ken from Pennsylvania, lifelong Giants fan. Russ,

898
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm surprised at you that you didn't remember that the

899
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three championship games played at Wrigley Field, And

900
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: you know, you know what I did ten. I was

901
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: nine years old, and I remember it like yesterday. I

902
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: did not remember that, honest to god, I just for

903
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: some reason, you know what, Ken, I thought Soldier Field

904
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: was a lot older than that. No, that game I

905
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: remember because there was a fumble. I remember Darryl death

906
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: shaping him all the way down the field and we

907
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: lost fourteen ten. That was our third championship game in

908
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: a row when we lost all three through to the

909
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: Packers and one to the Bear. Ye. So then we

910
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: went on that long drought until nineteen six. After that game, yep,

911
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: you remember. But I just wanted to call it because

912
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: I remember, I distinctly remember being Wrigley Field, and David

913
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: is correct. You see. I was just gonna say the

914
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: Bears the gilder Field was opened earlier, but it was

915
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: actually it's still home by the Chicago Park District, right,

916
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: so that's why the Bears played it. Yeah, okay, but

917
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: I wish we were talking about our run of three

918
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: straight championship games since that time. I just want to

919
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: call in about that. I remembered distinctly. Oh, I've had

920
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: some good trips to Soldier Field and winning there as

921
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: a Giant, which was awesome. Yeah, yeah, that was fun.

922
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: All right, thanks guys, all right, thank you. I'm sorry

923
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: I didn't I'm not from the Windy City. This. Yeah, no, obviously,

924
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: it's just one of those memories that you have of

925
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: me as a kid, you know, say thing like you're

926
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: saying with it. Just the old NFL films, music and

927
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: seeing him go and not only just running the football,

928
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: kickoff returns, pump returns, everything, oh, everything, everything. I think

929
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 1: there was one game in the slop and I don't

930
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 1: he wore he wore sneakers. Everybody else was wearing cleats.

931
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: He wore sneakers in the ice and scored four touchdowns.

932
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: I think it was might have been six. I think

933
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: it might have been six. I'm not a hundred percent sure,

934
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to remember who it was against. Could

935
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: it have been against Green Bay? I don't remember, but boy,

936
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: I'll tell you Jesus just bringing up a lot of memories. Yeah,

937
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: I mean, my goodness, the Bears and the Packers. You know,

938
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: Alex Carris with the Lions Thanks Thanksgiving. I mean I

939
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: remember Alex. Alex Carris was on the field. I remember this.

940
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: Alex Carris was on the field for the Lions when

941
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: Tom Dempsey um kicked that sixty three yard field goal

942
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: for the New Orleans Saints. Now, I don't know if

943
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: you folks remember Tom Dempsey. Tom Dempsey, he was born

944
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: this way. He had a club foot, you know, just

945
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: a club foot, and I believe he had um might

946
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: have had one arm, certainly want't shorten arm. And he

947
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: kicks his sixty three yard field goal. And the following week,

948
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: Alex Carris was on the Johnny Carson's Mom The Tonight Show,

949
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: and and Carson asked him about the kick and the

950
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: way Alex Carris wasn't you know Alex Carris was the

951
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: character says, are you kidding me? He goes here, I

952
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: am and that this fat guy with want and he

953
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: says it fat guy with one foot and one arm

954
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: is coming on to try his next three yard field goal.

955
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: And I'm laughing. I said, this is the dumbest thing

956
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. And then he kicks it and it

957
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: was like a sonic bull. It was like a ball

958
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: drop and I knew it was going through I. Oh,

959
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: my goodness, gracious, that was. I mean, they had some

960
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: really boy, When you think about that, football has changed

961
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: so darn much, so so darn much. And you know what,

962
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: we're being a little nostalgic here. But for the great success,

963
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: I guess maybe a lot of young people out there

964
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: don't realize this the great success of the National Football League.

965
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: And of course, when I say the great success, I'm

966
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: talking about a multi billion dollar business, a double figures

967
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: billion dollar business. It's oh to the late great patriarch

968
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: of your giants, Wellington Mara. Because Wellington Mara, if he

969
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: didn't share the TV rights, he realized what the partnership was,

970
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: the success of the NFL. I'm just bringing it up.

971
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: A lot of people realize it, but a lot of

972
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: people who are younger don't. It is because of Wellington.

973
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: Anytime you pick up an NFL football, look at that

974
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: stamp that's on it, that says the Duke that will

975
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: be on there forever. There for a reason, it really is.

976
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: He was, and boy was he an extraordinary guy. I

977
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: mean the best. I mean, you know, unfortunately you got

978
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: to know him, you know, you know, and I'll tell you, Uh,

979
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: it reminded me last week, you know, when we were

980
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: watching President Bush's funeral. You remember, Yeah, I can remember that. Oh, Mike,

981
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: I can hear the bagpipes, I can hear the hoofs

982
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: of the horses. Oh. It was just really um. But oh,

983
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: you know, we're just reminiscing now talking about because we

984
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: got talking about the Bears and but Niel yeah yeah

985
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: wow so um but anyway, we were getting back to

986
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: this game. So you know, if you don't have that,

987
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: that to me, that's another thing that um was so impressive.

988
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: You know, you didn't have two of you star players,

989
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: you didn't have Odell, you didn't have land In Collins.

990
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: And the way they dismantled the the Yeah, it's it's incredible,

991
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 1: and that that's something that's gonna have to show up

992
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: this week when they played this Titans team at home.

993
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: There're seven and six, obviously hungry to still fight for

994
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 1: that division and try to win and also get into

995
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 1: the playoffs. But it's gonna be very important number one,

996
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 1: like I said, for this Giant's defense to continue on

997
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 1: the tread of creating takeaways by flying to the football,

998
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: because we know that they're out there and that they've

999
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: given them up on the road. But for this Giants offense,

1000
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: this is where it's critical controlling the ground game. This

1001
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: is a defense that if you were in third and

1002
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: longs deem p's Mike Vrabel, you're gonna see some of

1003
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: the most exotic blitz looks that you're gonna see three

1004
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,919
Speaker 1: over here, four over here. There's times that you look

1005
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: where there's only one defensive lineman in the game standing

1006
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage and the rest are linebackers,

1007
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: and they will try to confuse you, and they will

1008
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: try to bring a lot of different stunts, and if

1009
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: they get blood in the water, it's like a shark,

1010
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: it's going to continue to come. If you don't believe me,

1011
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: go back and turn on the film. A couple of

1012
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: weeks ago, when they dismantled the New England Patriots at

1013
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: home thirty four attempt, they were confusing Tom Brady, showing

1014
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: two to one side, bringing two from the other, dropping four,

1015
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: bringing three. They were doing all different types of things

1016
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: up front that really confused and disrupted the New England

1017
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: Patriots flow of their offense. And what did they do.

1018
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: It restricted their ability to run. And you have a

1019
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: Titans defense playing the run on the way to the quarterback.

1020
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: Good good test for the offensive line. I know one

1021
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: thing that I wanted to ask you, and I was

1022
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: thinking about a driving here today when Eli in this

1023
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: last game dropped that pass into Corey Coleman. What did

1024
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: you think of I thought right away, up Mario man,

1025
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: and everybody says that, you know, I don't. I can't

1026
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: even finish the sentence, not only to to make that

1027
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: throw again, but to do it with Ryan Carrigan bearing

1028
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: down on and to throw it to the back side

1029
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: of it. I mean, that's what he's capable of when

1030
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,959
Speaker 1: you give him time. I continue to say it. That

1031
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: typified everything that we have argued and spoken about with

1032
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: fans and people this season, when everybody was on Eli's

1033
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: butt and we kept saying give him and it wasn't

1034
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: just me, it was you know, this guy, you know

1035
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: who has been in the trenches, has got two Super

1036
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: Bowls rings with Eli. I mean that to me, you

1037
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: know said it all you give him time? And my

1038
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: goodness because and what was the other thing that we

1039
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: would say, Eli was playing with your group. He he

1040
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: stood in and took his lumps because he had confidence

1041
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: in the offensive line, he had trust. Well, now he's

1042
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: getting that trust back with the guys that he has,

1043
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: and and that that was the perfect example, because that

1044
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: wasn't a good play. That was a all Pro Hall

1045
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: of Fame throw. How about the one that he threw

1046
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: the foler on the run Yeah, that was a dart

1047
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, well he doesn't have the arm strength anymore.

1048
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: Who knows if he can throw on the run. Well

1049
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: he did it on that play when he did it.

1050
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: The only thing that Eli has been critical of his

1051
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: immobility or lack of mobility, however ever you want to

1052
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: call it. And you know what, as I said, he's

1053
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: never been a ballet dancer. He's not, wasn't in the past,

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Speaker 1: not the president, and not the future period. But now

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Speaker 1: he's got a running back that is, you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to pretty pretty pretty good? Yeah, pretty pretty

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Speaker 1: you know, like if he stays healthy, he's got himself

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Speaker 1: one way ticket to Canton. But we don't have to

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Speaker 1: get ahead of ourselves. We just gotta get thinking about

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Speaker 1: going ahead and taking care of business this coming Sunday

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Speaker 1: against the Tennessee Titans, that, my friends, will be a

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Speaker 1: wrap up on today. I want to thank Dave dominic

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Speaker 1: or trustee producer here supplying us with all the info

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Speaker 1: on Soldier Field, my good buddy David Deal, myself, Russ Salisburg,

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Speaker 1: and most of all, want to thank you the fans

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Speaker 1: for being part of this show. As always remembered, the

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Speaker 1: number to call us is to A one nine nine

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Speaker 1: four or five one three. Until next week it is

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Speaker 1: I russ Salisburg along with David Deal, saying bye bye,

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Speaker 1: talk to you then