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<v Speaker 2>Here's Paul Calvis.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 1>ab ready and Ron Wolfleeve. It doesn't get any better

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<v Speaker 1>than that leash the field. You know, as much as

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<v Speaker 1>I despised Shakespeare in college as an English undergrad, I

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<v Speaker 1>love a good Shakespearean tragedy in football, especially when it

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<v Speaker 1>happens to the opponent. And that is why we are

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<v Speaker 1>gathered here today for this very special Cardinals Folktales edition

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<v Speaker 1>of The Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 1>Miracle in the desert. That is the title of tonight's episode,

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<v Speaker 1>as we hit the rewind button and go back into

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals history, all time anecdotes, as we like to say,

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals folktales where you can't spell the word history without

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<v Speaker 1>the word story. Paul calvic here, Darren Urban was there

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<v Speaker 1>covered the game back in two thousand and three. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the rare game, Darren, where it was best remembered

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<v Speaker 1>for what both teams did not get. The Vikings do

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<v Speaker 1>not get a playoff Berth, the Cardinals did not get

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<v Speaker 1>the first pick in the draft. Talking about this season

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<v Speaker 1>finale two thousand and three.

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<v Speaker 4>This is true. I hadn't really thought about it that,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know you going negative doesn't really surprise me

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<v Speaker 4>that much, Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, the real winner was a team that wasn't in

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<v Speaker 1>the game.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, that's true that Green Bay Packers got to the

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<v Speaker 4>playoffs because of that result, and they did feel like

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<v Speaker 4>winners that day. And Nate Poole can attest to that

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<v Speaker 4>because he ended up in Green Bay a week later at.

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<v Speaker 5>The playoff game.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it's by far the highlight of Nate Poole's career. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna learn in fact, you tell us since you

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<v Speaker 1>where were you, by the way, for Nate Poole's shining moment?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you still in the press pot?

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<v Speaker 4>In those days, all the reporters would gather in the

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<v Speaker 4>corner of the end zone, and we were down on

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the field that the Cardinals scored upon.

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<v Speaker 4>We were just on the other side. So we were

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<v Speaker 4>down there in the between the back line the back

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<v Speaker 4>of the goal line, in about the ten yard line,

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<v Speaker 4>watching this unfold. Couldn't see exactly obviously because it was

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<v Speaker 4>on the far sideline the catch, but you could hear

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<v Speaker 4>the crowd explode. I was down there when you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Josh McCown was pleading to the official to give them

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<v Speaker 4>the call when they were going to the replay. I

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<v Speaker 4>remember that very distinctly because we were on the field

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<v Speaker 4>by then and it was just it was an amazing

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<v Speaker 4>end to what turned out to be Dave McGinnis's career

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<v Speaker 4>as the head coach, and obviously it was a springboard

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<v Speaker 4>to them getting Larry Fitzgerald.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was a lot of change after this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Going into the game, though, I mean, what were the

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<v Speaker 1>odds the Cardinals had a chance to really win a

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<v Speaker 1>game when they hadn't won a game in nearly two months,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Vikings needed the game to clinch a playoff spot.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the funny thing is is, not only did anybody

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<v Speaker 4>think the Cardinals really had a chance, but even if

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<v Speaker 4>they lost, it didn't look real good for them to

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<v Speaker 4>get the number one overall pick. They needed a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of bad teams to win, and it wind up working

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<v Speaker 4>out that way if they had had lost. But then again,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the Vikings came. I'm guessing they were a

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<v Speaker 4>little overconfident. I don't know. I remember watching the game

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<v Speaker 4>from the press box thinking to myself, they don't look

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<v Speaker 4>like they're ready to put this team away. The Vikings

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<v Speaker 4>don't look like they're ready to put the Cardinals away.

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<v Speaker 4>And those Cardinal teams were not good, but they did

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<v Speaker 4>give effort, and you had a lot of guys out

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<v Speaker 4>there playing for the first time or very inexperienced Josh McCown,

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<v Speaker 4>Reggie Wells. I mean, you go down the list, and

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<v Speaker 4>they just didn't give up. Now, they needed some bounces

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<v Speaker 4>there at the end, for sure, but the fact they

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<v Speaker 4>were even in shouting distance of the game never should

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<v Speaker 4>have happened.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get a full recap here because it really

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<v Speaker 1>is gripping. I mean, the first three quarters of the

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<v Speaker 1>game not so much, but it was seventeen to six

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<v Speaker 1>Vikings with under seven minutes to play, then just after

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<v Speaker 1>the two minute warning it's a one score game. You

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<v Speaker 1>need the on sidekick Neil Rackers, right, he was a

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<v Speaker 1>master at making the ball do different things. He had

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<v Speaker 1>that soccer background, and then things just got really crazy

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<v Speaker 1>from there. I mean, with all due respect to a

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<v Speaker 1>young Dave Patch behind the mic, it's the rare game

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<v Speaker 1>where the truly memorable radio calls came from a the

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<v Speaker 1>losing team and be the team that really benefited two

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<v Speaker 1>time zones away who needed a Cardinals win more than

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals did.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's definitely some memorable calls. With all due respect

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<v Speaker 4>to Dave, I don't know if he ranks in the

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<v Speaker 4>top two there. But it was an amazing time all

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<v Speaker 4>the way around, just because of how it ended and

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<v Speaker 4>what it meant and just the memories of that game

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<v Speaker 4>and for Josh mccount and aatepool.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're going to hear how it all unfolded in

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<v Speaker 1>real time at the time two thousand and three. Heck,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a holiday season and the Cardinals rock team

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Colors right, red, white, and black. So this was

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<v Speaker 1>their own gift, their own parting gift of the home fans.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we come back in this very special Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>Folk Tales edition of The Big Red Rage, we'll hear

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<v Speaker 1>it for ourselves. Miracle in the Desert presented by santan Ford.

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<v Speaker 7>In go.

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome back into our special Cardinals Folk Tales edition

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<v Speaker 1>of The Big Red Rage presented by Santanford and Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in rewind into Cardinals history because remember, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>spell the word history without the word story, and boy

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<v Speaker 1>do we have one. From the final week of the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season two thousand and three, Cardinals were hosting the

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<v Speaker 1>Vikings and the Cardinals had exactly nothing to play for

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the number one pick, which they would secure with

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<v Speaker 1>a loss. The nine and six Vikings came in. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>they had started six and oh that season, but their

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<v Speaker 1>playoff hopes were on the line. They needed a win

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<v Speaker 1>to secure a postseason berth and the week before they

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<v Speaker 1>had already KOed KC forty five to twenty. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a Kansas City team that went thirteen and three in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three. So with that in mind, not

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<v Speaker 1>many gave the Cardinals a chance, but as quarterback of

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<v Speaker 1>the time, Josh McCown would say later, Hey, you've been

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<v Speaker 1>around coach McGuinness. He can make any game feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the super Bowl. And that would be foreshadowing because coach McGinnis,

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<v Speaker 1>who was great with the media, also had a great

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<v Speaker 1>comparison between the two receivers on the field that day

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<v Speaker 1>who were college teammates once upon a time at Marshall.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll hear that a little bit later, but the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about Nate Poole. Thirty six career games in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, he managed a total of thirty four career

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<v Speaker 1>catches and two touchdowns, but at the end of his

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<v Speaker 1>brief time in the NFL, only one of those thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four receptions truly mattered. It got him a key to

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<v Speaker 1>a city, It got him a personalized phone call from

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<v Speaker 1>a mayor. It got him a local TV commercial all

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<v Speaker 1>in the city of Green Bay. So with that as

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<v Speaker 1>the background, let's hit that rewind button to miracle in

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<v Speaker 1>the It's the final week of two thousand and three,

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<v Speaker 1>this season finale that would end the year for two teams.

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<v Speaker 3>The count throwing far side into the end zone and

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<v Speaker 3>the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>It is touchdown tortinles.

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<v Speaker 8>An unbelievable turn of events. Not here at lambeau Field,

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<v Speaker 8>but in the desert, you would have.

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<v Speaker 5>Thought we won super Bowl. I mean, it was an

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<v Speaker 5>unbelievable moment.

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<v Speaker 3>The things are going home for the new year.

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<v Speaker 6>You just don't lose like that. Nobody loses like that.

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<v Speaker 6>Let alone to Nathan Poole.

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<v Speaker 5>And they pulls a good person to make that play.

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<v Speaker 5>He deserves that.

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<v Speaker 1>Not one of the Minnesota Vikings are even moving right now.

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<v Speaker 9>You lose a game and it opens the door for

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<v Speaker 9>your worst enemy.

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<v Speaker 8>The Packers not only make the playoffs, they're going to

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<v Speaker 8>be host of the game.

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<v Speaker 9>It was after if the sun fell out of the sky.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, it was a miserable day of existence.

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<v Speaker 1>That time that two teams played one game that stop

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<v Speaker 1>time in three cities was a Cardinals receiver in or

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<v Speaker 1>out of bounds? Were the Vikings and Packers in or

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<v Speaker 1>out of the playoffs? Who would be drafting one, two,

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<v Speaker 1>and three? All dictated by a Cardinals win that some

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<v Speaker 1>viewed as a loss.

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<v Speaker 3>I think even the fans were like, now, let's just

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<v Speaker 3>get this season over and get the number one pick

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<v Speaker 3>walk away with the Eli manning.

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<v Speaker 5>There was something to play for there there. You know

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<v Speaker 5>they're playing for something. We can be playing for something too.

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<v Speaker 10>He got flushed out to the right. I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 10>here he come, being.

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<v Speaker 8>Of the angel mccount.

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<v Speaker 9>Down knocked me out at number one pick too, Man,

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<v Speaker 9>I probably been the first pick of the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, they cost me Nate poll Man.

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<v Speaker 6>I'd never forgive him for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell them that all the time.

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<v Speaker 8>Nathan Pool may become a household name in green Bay.

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<v Speaker 6>This is Mael Schmidz.

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<v Speaker 10>I love to get you out to one of the

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<v Speaker 10>I said, oh no, I would love to come out.

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<v Speaker 6>He was given a key to the city of Green

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<v Speaker 6>Bay and he got to go to their playoff game.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sure he will have a lot of opportunities to

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<v Speaker 7>go out in Green Bay if that is his desire.

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<v Speaker 7>He will have a lot of people who will take

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<v Speaker 7>good care of him.

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<v Speaker 1>To the winner goes the spoils. That's after the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>took care of the Vikings. All right, a big win,

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<v Speaker 1>but the big winner the Packers. Welcome into Cardinals Folktales

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<v Speaker 1>Miracle in the Desert presented by seventy two Souls, where

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<v Speaker 1>we go in depth into Cardinals history, all time, anecdotes

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<v Speaker 1>through the recollections and memories of those who lived in or,

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<v Speaker 1>in my case, those who covered it. My name is

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Kelvic, Cardinal's sideline reporter. We're talking about that time

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<v Speaker 1>when little known Nate Poole got the key to a

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<v Speaker 1>city while his own fan base lamented what it did

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<v Speaker 1>not get.

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<v Speaker 5>People said, well, y'all, you know you cost it the

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<v Speaker 5>number one pick.

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<v Speaker 3>The consolation was probably the greatest player in Cardinal's history

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<v Speaker 3>and one of the greatest receivers of all time.

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<v Speaker 5>Looking back, like you feel bad for the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 6>Dot down down, Oh my god, I can't believe what

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<v Speaker 6>just happened.

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<v Speaker 11>The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the great calls, one of the great rule

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<v Speaker 1>of victory, agony of defeat moments in NFL history, every

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<v Speaker 1>bit as much Shakespearean tragedy as season finale. December twenty eighth,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three, Cardinals playing for the number one

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<v Speaker 1>pick with a loss, the Vikings playing for the postseason

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<v Speaker 1>with a win or a Packers loss. Yet none of

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<v Speaker 1>the above happened. Here's former head coach Dave McGinnis and

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback Josh McCown.

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<v Speaker 12>We gotta win a game, and we haven't won a

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<v Speaker 12>game in seven weeks and we need to win a ballgame.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there are a lot of people pulling force.

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously, Coach McGinnis was fantastic in front of the room.

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<v Speaker 5>He was very captivating, and that was one of the

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<v Speaker 5>things that he talked about was just the ability to

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<v Speaker 5>knock those guys off. You know that they were coming in,

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<v Speaker 5>they had to beat us, and you know they were

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<v Speaker 5>going to get into the playoffs, and so there was

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<v Speaker 5>something to play for there there. You know, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>just a game where we're gonna roll the ball out

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<v Speaker 5>there and get it over with and go home. And

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<v Speaker 5>he was like, man, this is they're playing for something.

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<v Speaker 5>We can be playing for something too.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and three, it was a sixteen game season.

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals entered the final week three and twelve. The Vikings,

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<v Speaker 1>after a six and zero start, were nine and six,

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<v Speaker 1>coming off a ko of KC the week before a

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<v Speaker 1>forty five to twenty drubbing of a Chiefs team that

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<v Speaker 1>would finish thirteen and three. So all the Vikings had

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<v Speaker 1>to do what everyone expected him to do, polish off

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<v Speaker 1>a reeling Cardinals team with a quarterback making his third

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<v Speaker 1>career start, a coach about to be fired, and the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL's all time leading rusher getting peppered about his own

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<v Speaker 1>future on Christmas Eve.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, who knows we can play hypothetical all day?

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<v Speaker 6>Is Macizia?

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<v Speaker 8>Great? But if he's not here, people coming in, what

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<v Speaker 8>their plans are, what the ideas, and what they thought.

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<v Speaker 6>So I gotta win on all that. So you asking me.

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<v Speaker 8>To make an answer to something that I don't have all.

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<v Speaker 6>The information to, that's stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not that stupid. Yeah, please, somebody to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>something to please Christmas?

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<v Speaker 11>Thank you? How about the spirit of John Inness and happiness?

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<v Speaker 1>That's former Cardinals running back and Hall of Famer Emmitt Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>And hey, no doubt what would make the Red Sea

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<v Speaker 1>jolly and happy? The number one overall pick under their tree.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Voice of the Cardinals, Dave Pash was in his

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<v Speaker 1>second season in three.

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<v Speaker 3>And you endure that long of a season and you're

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<v Speaker 3>calling games for a team that's losing a lot of games.

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<v Speaker 3>The one thing is, Okay, you got a chance to

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<v Speaker 3>get a franchise changing quarterback. Let's just get through this

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<v Speaker 3>and get to that draft, get your guy, enjoy the

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<v Speaker 3>next ten years and a couple of Super Bowls like.

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<v Speaker 5>That whole year. You grow up fast in this business

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<v Speaker 5>and you go, wait, they're gonna fire these coaches. Wait

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<v Speaker 5>a minute, they could draft a new quarterback like you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I was just a quarterback of the future two days

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<v Speaker 5>ago that You know, all these things, you grow really fast.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Cardinals could be Josh McCown, the third round pick

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<v Speaker 1>the year before, who earned the final three starts of

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<v Speaker 1>that O three season and tried to channel the confidence

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<v Speaker 1>that his head coach Dave McGinnis showed in him against

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<v Speaker 1>NFC North leading Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 5>I think when you look at their roster, uh when

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<v Speaker 5>they're coming out to us with everything to play for,

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<v Speaker 5>I think it was a tall task. Uh So looking

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<v Speaker 5>at that going yeah, we're gonna beat the Minnesota Vikings,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, realistically, I don't know if that was you know,

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<v Speaker 5>if that was an easy sale for coach, but he

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<v Speaker 5>did a good job of framing that for us, and

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<v Speaker 5>and I think he was, you know, benefited from a

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<v Speaker 5>young quarterback who didn't know any better and just was

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<v Speaker 5>gonna go out and play the game.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the Cardinals and Vikings from Tempe Arizona Sun Devil Stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a lot of action for the announcers to call

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<v Speaker 1>in a fifty one degree day, a virtual snooze past

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<v Speaker 1>six to nothing at halftime, seven to six entering the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter when Randy Moss scores on a seven yard pass, A.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot closer than many thought it would be, especially with

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<v Speaker 3>a playoffs spot on the line. Of the Vikings win,

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<v Speaker 3>they clinch their division. If they lose and Green Bay wins,

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<v Speaker 3>they're out of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Then just over two minutes later, a forty six yard

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<v Speaker 1>fuel goal makes it seventeen to six Vikings with six

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight to play, but hang on. On the first

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<v Speaker 1>play after the two minute warning.

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<v Speaker 3>McCown takes play, bank, rolls to his right, mccount in trouble, flushdown,

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<v Speaker 3>throws end zone and going down to make the catch

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<v Speaker 3>for a touchdown of Steve Bush. Steve Bush with a

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<v Speaker 3>touchdown puch great improv job by Josh McCown.

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<v Speaker 1>A fourteenth play touchdown drive bought. The two point conversion failed,

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<v Speaker 1>so at seventeen to twelve Vikings, a score echoed on

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers broadcast.

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<v Speaker 8>James Rock Minnesota leading seventeen to twelve. Remember, the only

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<v Speaker 8>way the Packers can make the playoffs now is if

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<v Speaker 8>Minnesota loses this football game somehow, some way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the radio call at Lambell, Wayne Lairvie and Larry

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<v Speaker 1>McCarron paying close attention nearly two thousand miles away in

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay, Cardinals are going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Try to recover an onside kick to perhaps give us

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit more time to broadcast.

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<v Speaker 11>Luckily, that day I wasn't demolition, I was recovery.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, Josh Kobe and company went in there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, blasting guys and right place, right time. That's

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<v Speaker 1>former Cardinals running back Damian Anderson. And that's the recipe,

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<v Speaker 1>the mentality for a successful onside kick, because that's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what the Cardinals needed. Good news, the Cards are just

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<v Speaker 1>picked up one of the best in the business in

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<v Speaker 1>Neil Rackers.

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<v Speaker 3>So what fifty four to play? Neil Rackers is very

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<v Speaker 3>good with the on side kick.

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<v Speaker 5>We were all standing there, you know, waiting him, because

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<v Speaker 5>that was we knew that that was the next piece.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you had to get that to keep the

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<v Speaker 5>ball game going. And you know, Neil hits a perfect

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<v Speaker 5>ball and I mean it was just how you drew

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<v Speaker 5>it up, you know. And Damien comes up with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Rackers with the on side kick far aside, and it

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<v Speaker 3>bounce us in the air and the Cardinals have it.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the forty two, Davian Anderson comes up with it

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<v Speaker 3>on the re direction and the Cards have a chance.

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<v Speaker 3>With one's fifty four to play.

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<v Speaker 8>The Arizona Cardinals tried an onside kick and Larry longehold

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<v Speaker 8>they recovered it for a minute fifty four to go

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<v Speaker 8>in that football game in the desert and the Vikings

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<v Speaker 8>leading seventeen to twelve. Well, I'm gonna shut up about

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<v Speaker 8>this last game.

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<v Speaker 9>Stuff done.

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<v Speaker 8>Maybe they don't a miracle. Keep talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You may be jinxing us into something good here.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe that miracle can happen.

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<v Speaker 6>You get to that onside kick and now all of

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<v Speaker 6>a sudden, all bets are off. I mean, anything can

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<v Speaker 6>happen against anybody anytime, and as we know.

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<v Speaker 2>It did.

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<v Speaker 1>That's long time voice of the Vikings, Paul Allen. More

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<v Speaker 1>from him later, much more.

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<v Speaker 6>Saul.

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals had the ball back one fifty four left sixty

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<v Speaker 1>one yards to go, needing a touchdown with one time

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<v Speaker 1>out after a thirty yard pass interference and a thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>yard completion in Nate Poole. The Cardinals reached the Minnesota

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<v Speaker 1>nine with thirty nine seconds to go.

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<v Speaker 8>Meanwhile, out in the desert in Arizona, getting a little

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<v Speaker 8>bit closer. You know people are aware of this because

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<v Speaker 8>you could hear us in the crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>There is definitely at everyone is out of their seats

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<v Speaker 1>in three different states. When Josh McCown is put on

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<v Speaker 1>his seat, two straight plays quit driving.

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<v Speaker 3>McCown looking like pump back of mccount sacked back at

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<v Speaker 3>the seventeenyrd line of McCown flushed out running near side,

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<v Speaker 3>lost the ball, it's loose, and the Cardinals they have

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<v Speaker 3>of the pound side out of the twenty.

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<v Speaker 5>Eight Emmett has a presence of mind to go, Josh,

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<v Speaker 5>get up, get up, We gotta get the ball. Snap

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<v Speaker 5>we go, Wow, Tom House, we gotta go. So we

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<v Speaker 5>get to play call and then you know, and then

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<v Speaker 5>we you know, fortunately get the Boston.

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<v Speaker 9>You knew that was Josh skill set, like call a

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<v Speaker 9>play that works for him, you know, get him out,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, get him out in some space so he's'll

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<v Speaker 9>have a multitude of options.

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<v Speaker 3>The clock running down under fifteen seconds left. It's fourth

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<v Speaker 3>down in twenty four and.

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<v Speaker 5>It's gonna come down to this.

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<v Speaker 1>They gotta throw it into the end zone.

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<v Speaker 6>This is it.

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<v Speaker 1>Fourth down, fourth and twenty five from the twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers and Vikings playoff hopes hanging in the balance

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<v Speaker 1>once again. Voice of the Vikings, Paul Allen.

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<v Speaker 6>There was worry and anxiety and teeth gnashing every step

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<v Speaker 6>of the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Green Bay, you still watching, you bet you?

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<v Speaker 8>And they're winding it down in Arizona. This is the

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<v Speaker 8>last gas, fourth and twenty four, back outside the twenty

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<v Speaker 8>five and here we.

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<v Speaker 3>Go eight seconds, seven six five four.

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<v Speaker 6>The count of the ball. This will be the last play.

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<v Speaker 3>The count steps up, rolling far side.

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<v Speaker 10>Just so happened. He got flushed, He got flushed out

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<v Speaker 10>to the right. I said, oh, here he come.

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<v Speaker 3>But coun throwing far side into the end zone and

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<v Speaker 3>the ball it is touchdown.

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<v Speaker 11>Cardinal's big pool and the Cardinals win the game on

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<v Speaker 11>the final pool.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Kings are going home for the new year.

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<v Speaker 10>Josh Man, you know, the whole time he's running, he's rolling,

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<v Speaker 10>he's pointing to the right. I'm inside, I know he's

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<v Speaker 10>about to throw it over there and the defender. He

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<v Speaker 10>had no clue. He had no clue.

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<v Speaker 1>What a great prow by Josh McCown. He threw it

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<v Speaker 1>up early Nate Coole could get it, and he did it.

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<v Speaker 5>I felt like it was just there was a connection

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<v Speaker 5>for us, you know, and so boom, there he is

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<v Speaker 5>and then the ball came out. Uh and he makes

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<v Speaker 5>an unbelievable catch.

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<v Speaker 11>But Cardinals winning on the final play.

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<v Speaker 3>Josh mccoum Fudd's made pole.

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<v Speaker 1>In the back of the end zone of the far side.

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<v Speaker 5>You we thought we won Super Bowl, And I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>it was an unbelievable moment and and it meant a

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<v Speaker 5>lot to those guys out.

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<v Speaker 1>There, But it meant even more to Nate Poole, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who had been cut four times and then he

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<v Speaker 1>cut loose against the visiting Vikings fans who had populated

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<v Speaker 1>and dominated Sun Devil Stadium trash talk in three two

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<v Speaker 1>one take LFL.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't come back deal and next to y'all get the

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<v Speaker 6>same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Nate Poole, the living embodiment of the ups and downs

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<v Speaker 1>of an NFL game. He was something fired up while

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<v Speaker 1>those Viking fans could have been more let down. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>Nate Poole was a player who was always in proven mode,

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<v Speaker 1>always existing on the edge of the roster, so he

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<v Speaker 1>played with an edge. We heard it right there, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's amazing when you look back, how that one catch,

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<v Speaker 1>that one toe tapping catch that proved to be a

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<v Speaker 1>game winner, How it set off a domino effect, a

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<v Speaker 1>whole litany of changes that altered the history of not

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<v Speaker 1>only the Cardinals, but basically all the teams atop that

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and four draft franchise quarterbacks going two different teams,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals getting themselves a Hall of Famer as well,

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<v Speaker 1>who might have gone number one overall if the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>were in that position, but they weren't. And the changes

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<v Speaker 1>even extended to the rule book years later. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that when we come back. And don't forget Natepool

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<v Speaker 1>was not just a celebrity in Arizona. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>toast of the town in Green Bay. And we'll relive

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<v Speaker 1>all that when we come back to this very special

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals Folktales edition of The Big Red Rage Miracle in

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<v Speaker 1>the Desert presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. It's our

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<v Speaker 1>special Cardinals Folktales edition of The Big Red Rage, presented

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<v Speaker 1>by a Santan forward in Gilbert. This is where we

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<v Speaker 1>go into Cardinals history, go into the archives. Can't spell

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<v Speaker 1>the word history without the word story. And we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the final game of the two thousand and three season.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Paul calvi Seen. We started by saying,

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<v Speaker 1>remember that one time, that one game played by two

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<v Speaker 1>teams in two thousand and three, that stop time in

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<v Speaker 1>three different NFL cities. Remember Nate Poole, Cardinals receiver, and

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<v Speaker 1>was the in or out of bounds? We posed that question, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he was most definitely inbounds, and the Vikings were most

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<v Speaker 1>definitely out of the playoffs, and the Cardinals were out

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<v Speaker 1>of the top pick in the draft. We'll get to that,

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<v Speaker 1>but remember when it comes to the Vikings, you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a team that not only started six to zero

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<v Speaker 1>and was on the verge of the playoffs, but that season,

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<v Speaker 1>the four worst teams in the league were the Giants,

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<v Speaker 1>the Raiders, the Chargers, and the Cardinals. Each team finished

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<v Speaker 1>four and twelve. Each one of those teams beat the Vikings,

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<v Speaker 1>So you can imagine the YNGST on the Minnesota side.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, their radio announcer, the voice of the Vikings,

0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:09.639
<v Speaker 1>Paul Allen became a meme before there even were memes

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<v Speaker 1>in social media, and that's where we rejoined this edition

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<v Speaker 1>of Cardinals Folktales Miracle in the Desert, and former Cardinals

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:23.360
<v Speaker 1>quarterback Josh McCown two years later had empathy for the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 5>Looking back, like, you feel bad for the Vikings because

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<v Speaker 5>they were right there on the cusp and to lose

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<v Speaker 5>that way, man, that's bitter.

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<v Speaker 1>Nate Pool's game winning, playoff busting, last second fourth down

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown catch was one of his two two career touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 1>leaving the Vikings on the outside of the playoff picture

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<v Speaker 1>looking in as radio voice Paul Allen and company were

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 1>left in a state of utter disbelief.

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<v Speaker 6>People were just staring longingly on the team bust to

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<v Speaker 6>the airport. Nobody knew what to say, and they were

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<v Speaker 6>just trodden. And you just don't lose like that. Nobody

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<v Speaker 6>loses like that, let alone to Nathan Poole, not Angkwam Bolden.

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<v Speaker 6>So I mean, now as we connect the dots, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>of the entire thing over twenty years, it hits me

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<v Speaker 6>so vividly because of how emotional it was at that moment.

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<v Speaker 11>The season's on the line.

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<v Speaker 6>Two receivers left and right. McCown takes the snap.

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<v Speaker 11>He steps up, he's all by himself, fires into the

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<v Speaker 11>end zone.

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<v Speaker 9>Dods Dods down.

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<v Speaker 11>No, no, the Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of

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<v Speaker 11>the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 6>The previous owner of the team, Red McCombs, hated that call.

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 6>He didn't let me know, but he let others know.

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<v Speaker 6>Some vice presidents here, so you know, I had some

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<v Speaker 6>conversations with some vice presidents and I'm like, you know,

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 6>you don't script moments like that, and that's what came out.

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<v Speaker 6>So I had to deal with that very young in

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<v Speaker 6>my career.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand and where Paul's coming from. You get invested

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<v Speaker 3>in the team. It's your team, and I thought Paul

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<v Speaker 3>handled it perfectly. Some people might say, uh, it's not professional,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's how the fans feeling.

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<v Speaker 5>No, are you kidding?

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:12.959
<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>That was Paul's reaction.

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<v Speaker 6>One thing I remember about the call is I looked

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<v Speaker 6>to my left where the coaches were, and our linebackers

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:24.920
<v Speaker 6>coach at that time, Pete Bursage, he could hear me

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<v Speaker 6>through the glass yelling no, no, no, no, And then

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<v Speaker 6>I came down. The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out

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<v Speaker 6>of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 11>The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 6>The way he looked at me, it was not anger

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<v Speaker 6>at me. It was one of two things. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 6>I can't believe what just happened. Oh my god, that

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<v Speaker 6>check that I was going to get for a playoff bonus,

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<v Speaker 6>it just went up into the tenpiece.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy from Minnesota fans saying you sunk my Viking ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Just the sheer agony of it all to the utter

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<v Speaker 1>ecstasy of cheesehead nation listening on the Packers radio network,

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<v Speaker 1>and here we go.

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<v Speaker 6>This is if the season for the Packers.

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<v Speaker 8>On the line into the end zone accounts pack.

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<v Speaker 11>Hey Joe.

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<v Speaker 7>Cutting down.

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<v Speaker 11>It is as I'm on Packers by.

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<v Speaker 1>Label, complete dead look from Wayne Larity and Larry McCarron

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 1>reacting to a game they're not even calling, just watching

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 1>from two thousand miles away.

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:42.479
<v Speaker 8>Patters the biggest amercon on the Packers. Sadly any reps

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 8>the Packers. They finally realized there's any rep I'm a

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 8>final playoff. The regular season for the fight Kings.

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<v Speaker 11>They lose eighteen of seventeen.

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 8>The Packers not only make the playoffs, they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 8>host of the game.

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 1>True Brett Farvan. The Packers would host the Seahawks at

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Lambeau to open the playoffs. Later, Dave mcginni shared with

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>the media that Packers coach Mike Sherman and GM Mark

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Hadley called him and said, quote, you're a bleeping king

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 1>here in Green Bay. The thing is back in Tempee,

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 1>speaking of coach mac. Different emotions, a different reality started

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>to set in as the Cardinals locker room grew quiet,

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:24.879
<v Speaker 1>almost somber.

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 12>For all that we've been through, we never quit on

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 12>each other. It was a constant, constant reminder of what

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 12>character I've got in this room.

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I've never been afraid to tell you that.

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 6>I love you.

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 5>It was somber, and it's very soberinging. You're just like man,

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 5>back to reality. This is what we're faced with. And

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:00.160
<v Speaker 5>he was genuine with his words, and you know how

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 5>I cared about guys, and so I think he understood

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 5>in that moment that that was probably, you know, the

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 5>last time or one of the last times he was

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<v Speaker 5>going to address this as a group.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been afraid to open myself to you because

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 1>you've got my heart.

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 6>You've got my heart.

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:18.560
<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a roller coaster, really, because you were just as

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 5>high as it gets. You know, for fifteen twenty minutes,

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 5>they're celebrating and enjoying one another, and then you know,

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 5>the business sets in.

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 1>When Nate Poole gave me this ball that he caught.

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<v Speaker 6>What did I tell you last night? I cut this

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 6>man four times. I cut him four times.

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 13>And every time I did, he stood up in my

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 13>office and hugged me and said, Mike, if you need me,

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 13>I'll be back because you're the only man I want

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 13>to play for.

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 1>And that's the way I know that all of you

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 1>feel right now.

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 10>It was real motion on It was like you know,

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 10>your last family hug, you know, and and you know,

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 10>and it hurt because we know, you know, he's a

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 10>player's coach, and he loved the players. He wanted the

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 10>players to do, you know, to excel, to be really great.

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 6>You know what I feel for you, You know what

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 6>I feel for you.

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 13>This was a tremendous, tremendous demonstration of men that not

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 13>only love each other, but believe, believe, believe, you.

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 10>Know, most of us felt like we let Dave down

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 10>because you know, we didn't come up on the winning

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 10>side of a lot of these games to keep him around.

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 1>I'll never ever give up on you.

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 6>I love you. Thank you.

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>On the very next day, with a foreign swall season

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>in the books, Cardinals head coach Dave McGinnis was indeed fired.

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Vikings head coach Mike Tye survived despite the Vikings collapse

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>after that six and oh start. As for the Packers,

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 1>the party was just starting and Nate Pool's celebrity was growing.

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 8>Nathan Pool, of all people, how about that, Nathan Pull

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 8>may become a household name in Green Bay.

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 6>It was an amazing play. But you know, like I

0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 6>say about Nathan, and I'm not being disparaging here, but

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 6>that was his fifteen minutes of fame. And then of

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 6>course the next week he was given a key to

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:28.200
<v Speaker 6>the city of Green Bay and he got to go

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 6>to their playoff game, and.

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>That is accurate. Nate Poole, who going into the season

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>finale had eight catches all season and no touchdowns, was

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 1>now Packer's royalty, to the point where he got a

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 1>call from the mayor of Green Bay.

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 10>So Mayor Schmitz gave me a call and I was like, oh,

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 10>here we go. Stop calling my phone because I'm thinking

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 10>it's a player, and I'm thinking he's gonna call that

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 10>player's gonna call me back and say, man, dude, what

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 10>are you doing?

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Then I got a call right back.

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 10>It was the same number. Okay, hey, how you doing

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 10>this in April?

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 6>And he was like, Hey, Nate, no, this is not

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 6>a joke. This is Mayor Schmidt.

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 10>I love to get you out in a speed talking I.

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 6>Love to get you out to one of the games.

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 6>I said, oh no, I would love to come out.

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 1>And that's not the only call he got that week.

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 1>On the Big Red Rage radio show with host Dave Pash,

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 1>a Packers fan dialed in from the Midwest line too. Dave, Mary, Joe,

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Mary Joe, Welcome to the Big Red Rage.

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 8>Go ahead, Joe.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, guys, thanks a lot. I was just calling to

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 7>wish Nate a wonderful time in Green Bay and to

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 7>give him a huge thank you. Since the Vikings started

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 7>off six and oh this year, I've been taking a

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 7>lot of grief for getting a lot of grief from

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 7>my friends who are Viking fans, and I would roll

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 7>my eyes and just say, oh, you know, won't you

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 7>ever learn the Vikings will find some way to implode again.

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 7>This year and sweet revenge. It has been a wonderful

0:32:57.680 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 7>couple of days and I just want to offer a

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 7>great big thank you.

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Hey, Mary Joe, how about taking date out to dinner

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 3>when he gets up there.

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 7>I'm sure he will have a lot of opportunities to

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 7>go out in Green Bay if that is his desire,

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 7>he will have a lot of people who will take

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 7>good care of him.

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Nate Poole laughed all the way to Green Bay, an

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 1>all expense paid trip in January on the tax Beyar's

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>tap as the undrafted receiver from Marshall became a grand

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Marshal of sorts. But don't forget about the other end

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>of that touchdown pass QB Josh McCown.

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 5>You know, they fly Nate up to Green Bay and

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 5>they give him the Kidah City or whatever they did,

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 5>and they're sending us. We were getting Christmas cards from

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 5>Green Bay fans that it was their family Christmas card,

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 5>and you know it would you know, scratched out and

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 5>Merry Christmas and thank you for beating the vikings. Go

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 5>Pat go, and loads of Christmas cards mail to the

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 5>house of the Sargento family. Sent the best cheese basket

0:33:57.640 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 5>you've ever seen in your life.

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>That was two thousand and three. But even to this day,

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 1>when he's out and about, Josh McCown gets reaction for

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 1>both school Nation and America's dairy lamb walking.

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 5>Through an airport or whatever, and there will be, you know,

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 5>a disgruntled Vikings fan and hey, you you know you

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 5>owe me, you know type of thing, or it'll be

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:20.439
<v Speaker 5>a Packers fan that'll be like, thank you for getting

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 5>us in the playoffs that year, you know, we owe you.

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:30.719
<v Speaker 9>I was at home back in Minneapolis or watching that game,

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 9>and I did not like Nate Poole because I thought

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 9>I had a chance to be the number one pick,

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 9>and I used to always mess with Nate.

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 1>That's Minnesota native Larry Fitzgerald not only a former Vikings

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:42.439
<v Speaker 1>ball boy and their number one fan at the time,

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 1>but fitz might have been the number one pick overall

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL draft.

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 10>Me and Larry had that conversation. Believe me that he

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 10>would have been the number one overall pick. We're talking

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 10>in the receiver room before the meeting about being him

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 10>being the number one pick. As I think back to

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:03.799
<v Speaker 10>what his sided bonus was, how he didn't do too

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:06.840
<v Speaker 10>bad at the number three pick, people.

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 5>Said, well, y'all, you know you cost him the number

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:10.360
<v Speaker 5>one pick, and I go back and go, you know,

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 5>I don't think Coach Green would have I think he

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 5>would have picked Larry. He was gonna pick Larry, and

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 5>it turned out really good for Larry and and ultimately

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 5>for the Arizona Cardinals too. He helped lead that franchise, Uh,

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 5>you know, through a lot of things to become a

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:27.879
<v Speaker 5>you know, a competitive franchise and you know, to really

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 5>what they are today.

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 3>Walking away from that with mixed emotions of Wow, what

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 3>a way to win a game, but also, oh my goodness,

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 3>there goes the quarterback of the future. There goes he lied.

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 6>Yep.

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:42.439
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals won the game, but lost the number one pick,

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 1>which ended up being Ole Miss quarterback Eli Manning. We'll

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>never know who knew head coach Danny Green would have

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>picked for the Cardinals, or do we. Larry Fitzgerald says

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<v Speaker 1>at number one, he still would have been the Cardinals selection.

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<v Speaker 9>Then he said, I would have been. That's what he

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<v Speaker 9>told me. He told me I would have been. But

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<v Speaker 9>you know what, it all worked his way out. I

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<v Speaker 9>was able to still get here and play for him.

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<v Speaker 9>I know, we didn't have the success I'd love to

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<v Speaker 9>have for him. You know, he gave me my first

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<v Speaker 9>two jobs I ever had as a ball boy and

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<v Speaker 9>then as a professional athlete, and so I owe him

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<v Speaker 9>a huge debt of gratitude and I'm just so very

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<v Speaker 9>thankful for, you know, the doors he opened for me

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<v Speaker 9>and my family.

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<v Speaker 11>Touchdown Cardinals, they pull and the Cardinals win the game.

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<v Speaker 10>The final part, I bring my heart head to practice

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<v Speaker 10>in the games every day. And I knew, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>that's what it was about as growing up as a youngster,

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<v Speaker 10>that it was about, you know, bringing your hard head

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<v Speaker 10>and working out and just pushing to make the team.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, coaches say run every route as if it's

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<v Speaker 3>your last one. Nate Pool really did it. But it

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<v Speaker 3>was like comical, like he went so hard, so pretty

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<v Speaker 3>cool to see a guy that worked that hard have

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<v Speaker 3>one of the biggest plays of the season, not just

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<v Speaker 3>for the Cardinals but for the entire league.

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<v Speaker 10>I got to tell people, hey, you can only do

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<v Speaker 10>it one play at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>I got you on that play, and needless to say,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the play in Nate Poole's career, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most dramatic and consequential plays in NFL history, the Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 11>Have knocked the Fighting's out of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 5>And Nate Poll's a good person. He's a great person

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<v Speaker 5>to be around. And you look back at that and

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<v Speaker 5>that's a special moment for me in my career as well.

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<v Speaker 5>So but it couldn't happen to a better guy. And

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<v Speaker 5>they's good dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who says good dudes finished last?

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<v Speaker 12>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, as Dave McGinnis said back then with a

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<v Speaker 1>smile to the media, quote, there were two receivers on

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<v Speaker 1>the field from Marshall that day. They had Randy Moss,

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<v Speaker 1>we had Nathan Poole. So there you have it. Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>Folk Tales Miracle in the Desert, presented by seventy two

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<v Speaker 1>Soul for producer Jim Mamhundro. I'm Paul Calvic and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the story of how an unknown receiver won that day,

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 1>but a Hall of fame receiver was on his way.

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<v Speaker 3>The consolation was probably the greatest player in Cardinals history

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<v Speaker 3>and one of the greatest receivers of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>With the third choice in the two thousand and four

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<v Speaker 1>NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select Larry Fitzgerald, wide receiver University.

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<v Speaker 6>Of fifth Curd.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the red seat Cardinals fans at the official

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<v Speaker 1>draft party two thousand and four welcoming Larry Fitzgerald to

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<v Speaker 1>the Valley. Why a departure from the climate a few

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<v Speaker 1>months earlier when many Cardinals fans viewed the win against

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings as a loss because the Cardinals lost out

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<v Speaker 1>on the number one pick overall and ostensibly a franch quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>which eventually was Eli Manning as the top overall pick.

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<v Speaker 1>But that wasn't the only change in the NFL. A

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<v Speaker 1>few years after that, the force out rule would be eliminated,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the main examples cited was Nate Poole,

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<v Speaker 1>who only had one foot down in the end zone

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<v Speaker 1>on that game winning playoff busting touchdown catch that eliminated

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings. When we come back, Darren urban would the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals have taken a quarterback number one overall? Would it

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<v Speaker 1>still have been Larry Fitzgerald. We'll get Darren's perspective when

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<v Speaker 1>we come back to this very special Cardinals Folktales edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Big Red Rage Miracle in the Desert presented

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<v Speaker 1>by santan Ford in Gilbert. And we're wrapping up this

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<v Speaker 1>very special Cardinals Folk Tales edition of the Big Red

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<v Speaker 1>Rage presented by Santan ford in Gilbert Paul Kelvicy joined

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<v Speaker 1>by Darren Irvan. Darren Irvan covered the game. Miracle in

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<v Speaker 1>the Desert is the title of this Cardinal's Folk Tales

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<v Speaker 1>where we're going to the archives in some great rarely

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<v Speaker 1>heard audio that our Jim Almahundro found both from the

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay Radio broadcast. Also some of the audio we

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<v Speaker 1>heard from Larry Fitzgerald and coach McGinnis Josh McCown all

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<v Speaker 1>talking about not only the end of the game, but

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<v Speaker 1>the start of a new era of Cardinals football in

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<v Speaker 1>so many different ways. In fact, let's start right there, Darren,

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<v Speaker 1>because what if what if the Cardinals had lost that game?

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<v Speaker 1>What if they had picked number one overall? Would they

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<v Speaker 1>still have picked Larry Fitzgerald or would they have gone

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<v Speaker 1>franchise quarterback? You know if.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they end up taking Larry Fitzgerald, because I

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<v Speaker 4>think Denny Green wanted Larry Fitzgerald on his team. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I remember so vividly in the month leading up to

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<v Speaker 4>the draft. Denny then he wasn't like a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>coaches there were oftentimes when he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He said more.

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<v Speaker 4>Then maybe he should.

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<v Speaker 6>And I remember in those.

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<v Speaker 4>Days, I was covering the team for the East Valley Tribune.

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<v Speaker 4>I had come out to a day in the off

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<v Speaker 4>season sometime in April, and I was the only writer

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<v Speaker 4>here and the only other media member who was showing

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<v Speaker 4>up was brad Cessmett, who was working for one of

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<v Speaker 4>the local stations that day, and he had an interview

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<v Speaker 4>apparently scheduled with Denny Green. And all they did was

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<v Speaker 4>bring Denny Green down to the media area and then

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<v Speaker 4>they just had a camera and they were sitting there

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<v Speaker 4>and they're having it. So as a media member, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to listen to the interview and take what I can.

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<v Speaker 6>Get from it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, nobody told you you couldn't.

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<v Speaker 4>So Denny Green is talking about and you have to

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<v Speaker 4>remember again the draft with Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning

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<v Speaker 4>and Philip Rivers. Those are all available with the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 4>picking third. And at this point the Cardinals quarterback was

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<v Speaker 4>Josh McCaw probably, and there were questions about Josh and

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<v Speaker 4>whether he was gonna you know, and Denny loved Josh.

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<v Speaker 4>He would talk him up all the time. And at

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<v Speaker 4>one point Denny Green said, we're not going to take

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<v Speaker 4>a quarterback third overall well, as a reporter, I had

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<v Speaker 4>that in this day, this is pre internet, so I

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<v Speaker 4>had a big banner headline the next day. Obviously the

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:24.880
<v Speaker 4>other paper in town didn't have the story. So the

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<v Speaker 4>next day I came back. There were other writers here.

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<v Speaker 4>Ken Summer showed up, Bob bomb from the Associated Press,

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<v Speaker 4>and they get Denny Green to come down and talk

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<v Speaker 4>and they're trying to get him to say the same

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<v Speaker 4>thing again and he won't do it. And finally Bob

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<v Speaker 4>Bam says to him, kind of half jokingly, we're trying

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<v Speaker 4>to get you to say what you told Darren yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>And Denny looked at him and he goes, that was yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>Today is today.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you though, that was back in the days.

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<v Speaker 1>And we just talked about this where a quarterback wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>always go number one, right, And we knew Denny's affinity

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<v Speaker 1>for Larry Fitzgerald, his former ball ball by the way

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 1>in Minnesota, so he knew Larry better than anyone and

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<v Speaker 1>fits as it came to be. Once he did get drafted,

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<v Speaker 1>he showed up in the Cardinals locker room and there

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 1>was Nate Poole. Nate Poole heard it from Larry that

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<v Speaker 1>he cost him the number one pick overall.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, And look, it's not like the Cardinals made

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<v Speaker 4>a poor pick by any stretch of the imagination. But

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<v Speaker 4>you do wonder a little bit what, okay, Eli Manning

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<v Speaker 4>went number one and then Robert Gallery went number two.

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<v Speaker 4>But you wonder a little bit if they didn't take

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<v Speaker 4>Fits and they take Ben Roethlisberger or they take Philip Rivers,

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<v Speaker 4>how different does life with the Cardinals?

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<v Speaker 1>You know happen?

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<v Speaker 11>Now?

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<v Speaker 4>The Cardinals make the two thousand and eight Super Bowl

0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 4>because they get Kurt Warner, who has his career renaissance

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<v Speaker 4>throwing to Ankwambolden and a very very good Larry Fitzgerald.

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<v Speaker 4>And the Cardinals don't make the super Bowl unless Larry

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<v Speaker 4>has arguably the greatest performed postseason performance of any wide

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<v Speaker 4>receiver ever.

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<v Speaker 1>So, and guess what, Kurt Warner doesn't end with the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals if Eli Manning doesn't end up with the Giants.

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<v Speaker 4>All so true, Although Eli wasn't drafted by the Giants,

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<v Speaker 4>he was drafted by the Chargers and they had to

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<v Speaker 4>make the trade for Philip Rivers. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>intrigue with that draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's no doubt. Look, Nate Poole didn't have much

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<v Speaker 1>of a career after that. No always remembered for what

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<v Speaker 1>he did for the Green Bay Packers. Got the all

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:19.759
<v Speaker 1>expenses pay trip in January to Green Bay, gladly because

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<v Speaker 1>he got a key to the city and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>But they ended up changing the force out rule in

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<v Speaker 1>large part because of how that went down in the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone at sun Devil Stadium.

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<v Speaker 4>I had no question that it was a force out play.

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<v Speaker 4>And now you have to get feet down and if

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<v Speaker 4>a guy pushes you out of bounds your eye, that

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<v Speaker 4>touchdown does not count in today's NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>So many memorable moments and memorable radio calls from that game.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the great historic moments in Cardinal's history, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a pleasure reliving it, no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Miracle in the Desert Cardinals folk Tale special thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>our Jim al Mahundro for Darren Urban. I'm Paul Calvic

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