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You know, as much as 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: I despised Shakespeare in college as an English undergrad, I 19 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: love a good Shakespearean tragedy in football, especially when it 20 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: happens to the opponent. And that is why we are 21 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: gathered here today for this very special Cardinals Folktales edition 22 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: of The Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. 23 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: Miracle in the desert. That is the title of tonight's episode, 24 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: as we hit the rewind button and go back into 25 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: Cardinals history, all time anecdotes, as we like to say, 26 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: Cardinals folktales where you can't spell the word history without 27 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: the word story. Paul calvic here, Darren Urban was there 28 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: covered the game back in two thousand and three. This 29 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: is the rare game, Darren, where it was best remembered 30 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: for what both teams did not get. The Vikings do 31 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: not get a playoff Berth, the Cardinals did not get 32 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: the first pick in the draft. Talking about this season 33 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: finale two thousand and three. 34 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 4: This is true. I hadn't really thought about it that, 35 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: but you know you going negative doesn't really surprise me 36 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 4: that much, Paul. 37 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: Look, the real winner was a team that wasn't in 38 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: the game. 39 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 4: Yes, that's true that Green Bay Packers got to the 40 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 4: playoffs because of that result, and they did feel like 41 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 4: winners that day. And Nate Poole can attest to that 42 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 4: because he ended up in Green Bay a week later at. 43 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 5: The playoff game. 44 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 6: Yes. 45 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's by far the highlight of Nate Poole's career. Yes, 46 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna learn in fact, you tell us since you 47 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: where were you, by the way, for Nate Poole's shining moment? 48 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: Were you still in the press pot? 49 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 4: In those days, all the reporters would gather in the 50 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 4: corner of the end zone, and we were down on 51 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 4: the end of the field that the Cardinals scored upon. 52 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 4: We were just on the other side. So we were 53 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 4: down there in the between the back line the back 54 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 4: of the goal line, in about the ten yard line, 55 00:02:55,240 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: watching this unfold. Couldn't see exactly obviously because it was 56 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 4: on the far sideline the catch, but you could hear 57 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 4: the crowd explode. I was down there when you know, 58 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 4: Josh McCown was pleading to the official to give them 59 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 4: the call when they were going to the replay. I 60 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 4: remember that very distinctly because we were on the field 61 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 4: by then and it was just it was an amazing 62 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 4: end to what turned out to be Dave McGinnis's career 63 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 4: as the head coach, and obviously it was a springboard 64 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 4: to them getting Larry Fitzgerald. 65 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of change after this game. 66 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: Going into the game, though, I mean, what were the 67 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: odds the Cardinals had a chance to really win a 68 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: game when they hadn't won a game in nearly two months, 69 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: and the Vikings needed the game to clinch a playoff spot. 70 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 4: Well, the funny thing is is, not only did anybody 71 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 4: think the Cardinals really had a chance, but even if 72 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: they lost, it didn't look real good for them to 73 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 4: get the number one overall pick. They needed a couple 74 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 4: of bad teams to win, and it wind up working 75 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 4: out that way if they had had lost. But then again, 76 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: you know, the Vikings came. I'm guessing they were a 77 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 4: little overconfident. I don't know. I remember watching the game 78 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 4: from the press box thinking to myself, they don't look 79 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 4: like they're ready to put this team away. The Vikings 80 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 4: don't look like they're ready to put the Cardinals away. 81 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: And those Cardinal teams were not good, but they did 82 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 4: give effort, and you had a lot of guys out 83 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: there playing for the first time or very inexperienced Josh McCown, 84 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 4: Reggie Wells. I mean, you go down the list, and 85 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 4: they just didn't give up. Now, they needed some bounces 86 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 4: there at the end, for sure, but the fact they 87 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 4: were even in shouting distance of the game never should 88 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 4: have happened. 89 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: We're gonna get a full recap here because it really 90 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: is gripping. I mean, the first three quarters of the 91 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: game not so much, but it was seventeen to six 92 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: Vikings with under seven minutes to play, then just after 93 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: the two minute warning it's a one score game. You 94 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: need the on sidekick Neil Rackers, right, he was a 95 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: master at making the ball do different things. He had 96 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: that soccer background, and then things just got really crazy 97 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: from there. I mean, with all due respect to a 98 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: young Dave Patch behind the mic, it's the rare game 99 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: where the truly memorable radio calls came from a the 100 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: losing team and be the team that really benefited two 101 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: time zones away who needed a Cardinals win more than 102 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: the Cardinals did. 103 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's definitely some memorable calls. With all due respect 104 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 4: to Dave, I don't know if he ranks in the 105 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 4: top two there. But it was an amazing time all 106 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 4: the way around, just because of how it ended and 107 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 4: what it meant and just the memories of that game 108 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 4: and for Josh mccount and aatepool. 109 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: And we're going to hear how it all unfolded in 110 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: real time at the time two thousand and three. Heck, 111 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: it was a holiday season and the Cardinals rock team 112 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: Santa Colors right, red, white, and black. So this was 113 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: their own gift, their own parting gift of the home fans. 114 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: And when we come back in this very special Cardinals 115 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: Folk Tales edition of The Big Red Rage, we'll hear 116 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: it for ourselves. Miracle in the Desert presented by santan Ford. 117 00:05:59,640 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 7: In go. 118 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: And welcome back into our special Cardinals Folk Tales edition 119 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: of The Big Red Rage presented by Santanford and Gilbert. 120 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: We're in rewind into Cardinals history because remember, you can't 121 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: spell the word history without the word story, and boy 122 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: do we have one. From the final week of the 123 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: regular season two thousand and three, Cardinals were hosting the 124 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: Vikings and the Cardinals had exactly nothing to play for 125 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: beyond the number one pick, which they would secure with 126 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: a loss. The nine and six Vikings came in. Remember 127 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: they had started six and oh that season, but their 128 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: playoff hopes were on the line. They needed a win 129 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: to secure a postseason berth and the week before they 130 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: had already KOed KC forty five to twenty. That was 131 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: a Kansas City team that went thirteen and three in 132 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: two thousand and three. So with that in mind, not 133 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: many gave the Cardinals a chance, but as quarterback of 134 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: the time, Josh McCown would say later, Hey, you've been 135 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: around coach McGuinness. He can make any game feel like 136 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. And that would be foreshadowing because coach McGinnis, 137 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: who was great with the media, also had a great 138 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: comparison between the two receivers on the field that day 139 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: who were college teammates once upon a time at Marshall. 140 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: We'll hear that a little bit later, but the Cardinals 141 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: were talking about Nate Poole. Thirty six career games in 142 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: the NFL, he managed a total of thirty four career 143 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: catches and two touchdowns, but at the end of his 144 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: brief time in the NFL, only one of those thirty 145 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: four receptions truly mattered. It got him a key to 146 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: a city, It got him a personalized phone call from 147 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: a mayor. It got him a local TV commercial all 148 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: in the city of Green Bay. So with that as 149 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: the background, let's hit that rewind button to miracle in 150 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: the It's the final week of two thousand and three, 151 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: this season finale that would end the year for two teams. 152 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 3: The count throwing far side into the end zone and 153 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: the ball. 154 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: It is touchdown tortinles. 155 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 8: An unbelievable turn of events. Not here at lambeau Field, 156 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 8: but in the desert, you would have. 157 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 5: Thought we won super Bowl. I mean, it was an 158 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 5: unbelievable moment. 159 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 3: The things are going home for the new year. 160 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 6: You just don't lose like that. Nobody loses like that. 161 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 6: Let alone to Nathan Poole. 162 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 5: And they pulls a good person to make that play. 163 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 5: He deserves that. 164 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: Not one of the Minnesota Vikings are even moving right now. 165 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 9: You lose a game and it opens the door for 166 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 9: your worst enemy. 167 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 8: The Packers not only make the playoffs, they're going to 168 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 8: be host of the game. 169 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 9: It was after if the sun fell out of the sky. 170 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 9: You know, it was a miserable day of existence. 171 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: That time that two teams played one game that stop 172 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: time in three cities was a Cardinals receiver in or 173 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: out of bounds? Were the Vikings and Packers in or 174 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: out of the playoffs? Who would be drafting one, two, 175 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: and three? All dictated by a Cardinals win that some 176 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: viewed as a loss. 177 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: I think even the fans were like, now, let's just 178 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 3: get this season over and get the number one pick 179 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 3: walk away with the Eli manning. 180 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 5: There was something to play for there there. You know 181 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 5: they're playing for something. We can be playing for something too. 182 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 10: He got flushed out to the right. I said, oh, 183 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 10: here he come, being. 184 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 8: Of the angel mccount. 185 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 9: Down knocked me out at number one pick too, Man, 186 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 9: I probably been the first pick of the draft. 187 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: Man, they cost me Nate poll Man. 188 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 6: I'd never forgive him for that. 189 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: I tell them that all the time. 190 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 8: Nathan Pool may become a household name in green Bay. 191 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 6: This is Mael Schmidz. 192 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 10: I love to get you out to one of the 193 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 10: I said, oh no, I would love to come out. 194 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 6: He was given a key to the city of Green 195 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 6: Bay and he got to go to their playoff game. 196 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 7: I'm sure he will have a lot of opportunities to 197 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 7: go out in Green Bay if that is his desire. 198 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 7: He will have a lot of people who will take 199 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 7: good care of him. 200 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: To the winner goes the spoils. That's after the Cardinals 201 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: took care of the Vikings. All right, a big win, 202 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: but the big winner the Packers. Welcome into Cardinals Folktales 203 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: Miracle in the Desert presented by seventy two Souls, where 204 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: we go in depth into Cardinals history, all time, anecdotes 205 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: through the recollections and memories of those who lived in or, 206 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: in my case, those who covered it. My name is 207 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: Paul Kelvic, Cardinal's sideline reporter. We're talking about that time 208 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: when little known Nate Poole got the key to a 209 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: city while his own fan base lamented what it did 210 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: not get. 211 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 5: People said, well, y'all, you know you cost it the 212 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 5: number one pick. 213 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: The consolation was probably the greatest player in Cardinal's history 214 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 3: and one of the greatest receivers of all time. 215 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 5: Looking back, like you feel bad for the Vikings. 216 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 6: Dot down down, Oh my god, I can't believe what 217 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 6: just happened. 218 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 11: The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs. 219 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: One of the great calls, one of the great rule 220 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: of victory, agony of defeat moments in NFL history, every 221 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: bit as much Shakespearean tragedy as season finale. December twenty eighth, 222 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: two thousand and three, Cardinals playing for the number one 223 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: pick with a loss, the Vikings playing for the postseason 224 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: with a win or a Packers loss. Yet none of 225 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: the above happened. Here's former head coach Dave McGinnis and 226 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: quarterback Josh McCown. 227 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 12: We gotta win a game, and we haven't won a 228 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 12: game in seven weeks and we need to win a ballgame. 229 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: You know, there are a lot of people pulling force. 230 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 5: Obviously, Coach McGinnis was fantastic in front of the room. 231 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 5: He was very captivating, and that was one of the 232 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 5: things that he talked about was just the ability to 233 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 5: knock those guys off. You know that they were coming in, 234 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 5: they had to beat us, and you know they were 235 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 5: going to get into the playoffs, and so there was 236 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 5: something to play for there there. You know, it wasn't 237 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 5: just a game where we're gonna roll the ball out 238 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 5: there and get it over with and go home. And 239 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 5: he was like, man, this is they're playing for something. 240 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 5: We can be playing for something too. 241 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: In two thousand and three, it was a sixteen game season. 242 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals entered the final week three and twelve. The Vikings, 243 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: after a six and zero start, were nine and six, 244 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: coming off a ko of KC the week before a 245 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: forty five to twenty drubbing of a Chiefs team that 246 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: would finish thirteen and three. So all the Vikings had 247 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: to do what everyone expected him to do, polish off 248 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: a reeling Cardinals team with a quarterback making his third 249 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: career start, a coach about to be fired, and the 250 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: NFL's all time leading rusher getting peppered about his own 251 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: future on Christmas Eve. 252 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 6: I mean, who knows we can play hypothetical all day? 253 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 6: Is Macizia? 254 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 8: Great? But if he's not here, people coming in, what 255 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 8: their plans are, what the ideas, and what they thought. 256 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 6: So I gotta win on all that. So you asking me. 257 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 8: To make an answer to something that I don't have all. 258 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 6: The information to, that's stupid. 259 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: I'm not that stupid. Yeah, please, somebody to tell you 260 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: something to please Christmas? 261 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 11: Thank you? How about the spirit of John Inness and happiness? 262 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: That's former Cardinals running back and Hall of Famer Emmitt Smith, 263 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: And hey, no doubt what would make the Red Sea 264 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: jolly and happy? The number one overall pick under their tree. 265 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: Here's Voice of the Cardinals, Dave Pash was in his 266 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: second season in three. 267 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 3: And you endure that long of a season and you're 268 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: calling games for a team that's losing a lot of games. 269 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 3: The one thing is, Okay, you got a chance to 270 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: get a franchise changing quarterback. Let's just get through this 271 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 3: and get to that draft, get your guy, enjoy the 272 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 3: next ten years and a couple of Super Bowls like. 273 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 5: That whole year. You grow up fast in this business 274 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 5: and you go, wait, they're gonna fire these coaches. Wait 275 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 5: a minute, they could draft a new quarterback like you know, 276 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 5: I was just a quarterback of the future two days 277 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 5: ago that You know, all these things, you grow really fast. 278 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: That's Cardinals could be Josh McCown, the third round pick 279 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: the year before, who earned the final three starts of 280 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: that O three season and tried to channel the confidence 281 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: that his head coach Dave McGinnis showed in him against 282 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: NFC North leading Minnesota. 283 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 5: I think when you look at their roster, uh when 284 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 5: they're coming out to us with everything to play for, 285 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 5: I think it was a tall task. Uh So looking 286 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 5: at that going yeah, we're gonna beat the Minnesota Vikings, 287 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 5: you know, realistically, I don't know if that was you know, 288 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 5: if that was an easy sale for coach, but he 289 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 5: did a good job of framing that for us, and 290 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 5: and I think he was, you know, benefited from a 291 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 5: young quarterback who didn't know any better and just was 292 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 5: gonna go out and play the game. 293 00:14:54,280 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: It's the Cardinals and Vikings from Tempe Arizona Sun Devil Stadium. 294 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: Not a lot of action for the announcers to call 295 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: in a fifty one degree day, a virtual snooze past 296 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: six to nothing at halftime, seven to six entering the 297 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: fourth quarter when Randy Moss scores on a seven yard pass, A. 298 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 3: Lot closer than many thought it would be, especially with 299 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: a playoffs spot on the line. Of the Vikings win, 300 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 3: they clinch their division. If they lose and Green Bay wins, 301 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: they're out of the playoffs. 302 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: Then just over two minutes later, a forty six yard 303 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: fuel goal makes it seventeen to six Vikings with six 304 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: forty eight to play, but hang on. On the first 305 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: play after the two minute warning. 306 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 3: McCown takes play, bank, rolls to his right, mccount in trouble, flushdown, 307 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 3: throws end zone and going down to make the catch 308 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: for a touchdown of Steve Bush. Steve Bush with a 309 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 3: touchdown puch great improv job by Josh McCown. 310 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: A fourteenth play touchdown drive bought. The two point conversion failed, 311 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: so at seventeen to twelve Vikings, a score echoed on 312 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: the Packers broadcast. 313 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 8: James Rock Minnesota leading seventeen to twelve. Remember, the only 314 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 8: way the Packers can make the playoffs now is if 315 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 8: Minnesota loses this football game somehow, some way. 316 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: That's the radio call at Lambell, Wayne Lairvie and Larry 317 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: McCarron paying close attention nearly two thousand miles away in 318 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: Green Bay, Cardinals are going to. 319 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: Try to recover an onside kick to perhaps give us 320 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: a little bit more time to broadcast. 321 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 11: Luckily, that day I wasn't demolition, I was recovery. 322 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: And you know, Josh Kobe and company went in there, 323 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, blasting guys and right place, right time. That's 324 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: former Cardinals running back Damian Anderson. And that's the recipe, 325 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: the mentality for a successful onside kick, because that's exactly 326 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: what the Cardinals needed. Good news, the Cards are just 327 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: picked up one of the best in the business in 328 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: Neil Rackers. 329 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 3: So what fifty four to play? Neil Rackers is very 330 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 3: good with the on side kick. 331 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 5: We were all standing there, you know, waiting him, because 332 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 5: that was we knew that that was the next piece. 333 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 5: You know, you had to get that to keep the 334 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 5: ball game going. And you know, Neil hits a perfect 335 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 5: ball and I mean it was just how you drew 336 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 5: it up, you know. And Damien comes up with it. 337 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: Rackers with the on side kick far aside, and it 338 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 3: bounce us in the air and the Cardinals have it. 339 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 3: Of the forty two, Davian Anderson comes up with it 340 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 3: on the re direction and the Cards have a chance. 341 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 3: With one's fifty four to play. 342 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 8: The Arizona Cardinals tried an onside kick and Larry longehold 343 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 8: they recovered it for a minute fifty four to go 344 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 8: in that football game in the desert and the Vikings 345 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 8: leading seventeen to twelve. Well, I'm gonna shut up about 346 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 8: this last game. 347 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 9: Stuff done. 348 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 8: Maybe they don't a miracle. Keep talking about it. 349 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: You may be jinxing us into something good here. 350 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 7: Maybe that miracle can happen. 351 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 6: You get to that onside kick and now all of 352 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 6: a sudden, all bets are off. I mean, anything can 353 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 6: happen against anybody anytime, and as we know. 354 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 2: It did. 355 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: That's long time voice of the Vikings, Paul Allen. More 356 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: from him later, much more. 357 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 6: Saul. 358 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals had the ball back one fifty four left sixty 359 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: one yards to go, needing a touchdown with one time 360 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: out after a thirty yard pass interference and a thirteen 361 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: yard completion in Nate Poole. The Cardinals reached the Minnesota 362 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: nine with thirty nine seconds to go. 363 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 8: Meanwhile, out in the desert in Arizona, getting a little 364 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 8: bit closer. You know people are aware of this because 365 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 8: you could hear us in the crowd. 366 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: There is definitely at everyone is out of their seats 367 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: in three different states. When Josh McCown is put on 368 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: his seat, two straight plays quit driving. 369 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 3: McCown looking like pump back of mccount sacked back at 370 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 3: the seventeenyrd line of McCown flushed out running near side, 371 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: lost the ball, it's loose, and the Cardinals they have 372 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 3: of the pound side out of the twenty. 373 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 5: Eight Emmett has a presence of mind to go, Josh, 374 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 5: get up, get up, We gotta get the ball. Snap 375 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 5: we go, Wow, Tom House, we gotta go. So we 376 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 5: get to play call and then you know, and then 377 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 5: we you know, fortunately get the Boston. 378 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 9: You knew that was Josh skill set, like call a 379 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 9: play that works for him, you know, get him out, 380 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 9: you know, get him out in some space so he's'll 381 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 9: have a multitude of options. 382 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 3: The clock running down under fifteen seconds left. It's fourth 383 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 3: down in twenty four and. 384 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 5: It's gonna come down to this. 385 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: They gotta throw it into the end zone. 386 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 6: This is it. 387 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: Fourth down, fourth and twenty five from the twenty eight. 388 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: The Packers and Vikings playoff hopes hanging in the balance 389 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: once again. Voice of the Vikings, Paul Allen. 390 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 6: There was worry and anxiety and teeth gnashing every step 391 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 6: of the way. 392 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: Hey Green Bay, you still watching, you bet you? 393 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 8: And they're winding it down in Arizona. This is the 394 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 8: last gas, fourth and twenty four, back outside the twenty 395 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 8: five and here we. 396 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 3: Go eight seconds, seven six five four. 397 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 6: The count of the ball. This will be the last play. 398 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 3: The count steps up, rolling far side. 399 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 10: Just so happened. He got flushed, He got flushed out 400 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 10: to the right. I said, oh, here he come. 401 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 3: But coun throwing far side into the end zone and 402 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 3: the ball it is touchdown. 403 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 11: Cardinal's big pool and the Cardinals win the game on 404 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 11: the final pool. 405 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: And the Kings are going home for the new year. 406 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 10: Josh Man, you know, the whole time he's running, he's rolling, 407 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 10: he's pointing to the right. I'm inside, I know he's 408 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 10: about to throw it over there and the defender. He 409 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 10: had no clue. He had no clue. 410 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: What a great prow by Josh McCown. He threw it 411 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: up early Nate Coole could get it, and he did it. 412 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 5: I felt like it was just there was a connection 413 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 5: for us, you know, and so boom, there he is 414 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 5: and then the ball came out. Uh and he makes 415 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 5: an unbelievable catch. 416 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 11: But Cardinals winning on the final play. 417 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 3: Josh mccoum Fudd's made pole. 418 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: In the back of the end zone of the far side. 419 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 5: You we thought we won Super Bowl, And I mean, 420 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 5: it was an unbelievable moment and and it meant a 421 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 5: lot to those guys out. 422 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: There, But it meant even more to Nate Poole, the 423 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: guy who had been cut four times and then he 424 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: cut loose against the visiting Vikings fans who had populated 425 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,239 Speaker 1: and dominated Sun Devil Stadium trash talk in three two 426 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: one take LFL. 427 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 6: Don't come back deal and next to y'all get the 428 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 6: same thing. 429 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: Nate Poole, the living embodiment of the ups and downs 430 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: of an NFL game. He was something fired up while 431 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: those Viking fans could have been more let down. Remember 432 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: Nate Poole was a player who was always in proven mode, 433 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: always existing on the edge of the roster, so he 434 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: played with an edge. We heard it right there, and 435 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: it's amazing when you look back, how that one catch, 436 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: that one toe tapping catch that proved to be a 437 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: game winner, How it set off a domino effect, a 438 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: whole litany of changes that altered the history of not 439 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: only the Cardinals, but basically all the teams atop that 440 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: two thousand and four draft franchise quarterbacks going two different teams, 441 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: the Cardinals getting themselves a Hall of Famer as well, 442 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: who might have gone number one overall if the Cardinals 443 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: were in that position, but they weren't. And the changes 444 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: even extended to the rule book years later. We'll get 445 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: to that when we come back. And don't forget Natepool 446 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: was not just a celebrity in Arizona. He was the 447 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: toast of the town in Green Bay. And we'll relive 448 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: all that when we come back to this very special 449 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: Cardinals Folktales edition of The Big Red Rage Miracle in 450 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: the Desert presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. It's our 451 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: special Cardinals Folktales edition of The Big Red Rage, presented 452 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: by a Santan forward in Gilbert. This is where we 453 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: go into Cardinals history, go into the archives. Can't spell 454 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: the word history without the word story. And we're talking 455 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: about the final game of the two thousand and three season. 456 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: My name is Paul calvi Seen. We started by saying, 457 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: remember that one time, that one game played by two 458 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: teams in two thousand and three, that stop time in 459 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: three different NFL cities. Remember Nate Poole, Cardinals receiver, and 460 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: was the in or out of bounds? We posed that question, Well, 461 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: he was most definitely inbounds, and the Vikings were most 462 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: definitely out of the playoffs, and the Cardinals were out 463 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: of the top pick in the draft. We'll get to that, 464 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: but remember when it comes to the Vikings, you're talking 465 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: about a team that not only started six to zero 466 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: and was on the verge of the playoffs, but that season, 467 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: the four worst teams in the league were the Giants, 468 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: the Raiders, the Chargers, and the Cardinals. Each team finished 469 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: four and twelve. Each one of those teams beat the Vikings, 470 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: So you can imagine the YNGST on the Minnesota side. 471 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: In fact, their radio announcer, the voice of the Vikings, 472 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: Paul Allen became a meme before there even were memes 473 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: in social media, and that's where we rejoined this edition 474 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: of Cardinals Folktales Miracle in the Desert, and former Cardinals 475 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: quarterback Josh McCown two years later had empathy for the Vikings. 476 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 5: Looking back, like, you feel bad for the Vikings because 477 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 5: they were right there on the cusp and to lose 478 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 5: that way, man, that's bitter. 479 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: Nate Pool's game winning, playoff busting, last second fourth down 480 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: touchdown catch was one of his two two career touchdowns, 481 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: leaving the Vikings on the outside of the playoff picture 482 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: looking in as radio voice Paul Allen and company were 483 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: left in a state of utter disbelief. 484 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 6: People were just staring longingly on the team bust to 485 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 6: the airport. Nobody knew what to say, and they were 486 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 6: just trodden. And you just don't lose like that. Nobody 487 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 6: loses like that, let alone to Nathan Poole, not Angkwam Bolden. 488 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 6: So I mean, now as we connect the dots, you know, 489 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 6: of the entire thing over twenty years, it hits me 490 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 6: so vividly because of how emotional it was at that moment. 491 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 11: The season's on the line. 492 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 6: Two receivers left and right. McCown takes the snap. 493 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 11: He steps up, he's all by himself, fires into the 494 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 11: end zone. 495 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 9: Dods Dods down. 496 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 11: No, no, the Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of 497 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 11: the playoffs. 498 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 6: The previous owner of the team, Red McCombs, hated that call. 499 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 6: He didn't let me know, but he let others know. 500 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 6: Some vice presidents here, so you know, I had some 501 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 6: conversations with some vice presidents and I'm like, you know, 502 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 6: you don't script moments like that, and that's what came out. 503 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 6: So I had to deal with that very young in 504 00:25:58,680 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 6: my career. 505 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 3: I understand and where Paul's coming from. You get invested 506 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 3: in the team. It's your team, and I thought Paul 507 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 3: handled it perfectly. Some people might say, uh, it's not professional, 508 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 3: but that's how the fans feeling. 509 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 5: No, are you kidding? 510 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 6: Right? 511 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 3: That was Paul's reaction. 512 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 6: One thing I remember about the call is I looked 513 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 6: to my left where the coaches were, and our linebackers 514 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 6: coach at that time, Pete Bursage, he could hear me 515 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 6: through the glass yelling no, no, no, no, And then 516 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 6: I came down. The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out 517 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 6: of the playoffs. 518 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 11: The Cardinals have knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs. 519 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 6: The way he looked at me, it was not anger 520 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 6: at me. It was one of two things. Oh my god, 521 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 6: I can't believe what just happened. Oh my god, that 522 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 6: check that I was going to get for a playoff bonus, 523 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 6: it just went up into the tenpiece. 524 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: Guy from Minnesota fans saying you sunk my Viking ship. 525 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: Just the sheer agony of it all to the utter 526 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: ecstasy of cheesehead nation listening on the Packers radio network, 527 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: and here we go. 528 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 6: This is if the season for the Packers. 529 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 8: On the line into the end zone accounts pack. 530 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 11: Hey Joe. 531 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 7: Cutting down. 532 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 11: It is as I'm on Packers by. 533 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: Label, complete dead look from Wayne Larity and Larry McCarron 534 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: reacting to a game they're not even calling, just watching 535 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: from two thousand miles away. 536 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 8: Patters the biggest amercon on the Packers. Sadly any reps 537 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 8: the Packers. They finally realized there's any rep I'm a 538 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 8: final playoff. The regular season for the fight Kings. 539 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 11: They lose eighteen of seventeen. 540 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 8: The Packers not only make the playoffs, they're gonna be 541 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 8: host of the game. 542 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: True Brett Farvan. The Packers would host the Seahawks at 543 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: Lambeau to open the playoffs. Later, Dave mcginni shared with 544 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: the media that Packers coach Mike Sherman and GM Mark 545 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: Hadley called him and said, quote, you're a bleeping king 546 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: here in Green Bay. The thing is back in Tempee, 547 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: speaking of coach mac. Different emotions, a different reality started 548 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: to set in as the Cardinals locker room grew quiet, 549 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: almost somber. 550 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 12: For all that we've been through, we never quit on 551 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 12: each other. It was a constant, constant reminder of what 552 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 12: character I've got in this room. 553 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: I've never been afraid to tell you that. 554 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 6: I love you. 555 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 5: It was somber, and it's very soberinging. You're just like man, 556 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 5: back to reality. This is what we're faced with. And 557 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 5: he was genuine with his words, and you know how 558 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 5: I cared about guys, and so I think he understood 559 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 5: in that moment that that was probably, you know, the 560 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 5: last time or one of the last times he was 561 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 5: going to address this as a group. 562 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: I've never been afraid to open myself to you because 563 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: you've got my heart. 564 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 6: You've got my heart. 565 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 7: You know. 566 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 5: It's a roller coaster, really, because you were just as 567 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 5: high as it gets. You know, for fifteen twenty minutes, 568 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 5: they're celebrating and enjoying one another, and then you know, 569 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 5: the business sets in. 570 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: When Nate Poole gave me this ball that he caught. 571 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 6: What did I tell you last night? I cut this 572 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 6: man four times. I cut him four times. 573 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 13: And every time I did, he stood up in my 574 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 13: office and hugged me and said, Mike, if you need me, 575 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 13: I'll be back because you're the only man I want 576 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 13: to play for. 577 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: And that's the way I know that all of you 578 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: feel right now. 579 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 10: It was real motion on It was like you know, 580 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 10: your last family hug, you know, and and you know, 581 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 10: and it hurt because we know, you know, he's a 582 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 10: player's coach, and he loved the players. He wanted the 583 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 10: players to do, you know, to excel, to be really great. 584 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 6: You know what I feel for you, You know what 585 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 6: I feel for you. 586 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 13: This was a tremendous, tremendous demonstration of men that not 587 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 13: only love each other, but believe, believe, believe, you. 588 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 10: Know, most of us felt like we let Dave down 589 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 10: because you know, we didn't come up on the winning 590 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 10: side of a lot of these games to keep him around. 591 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: I'll never ever give up on you. 592 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 6: I love you. Thank you. 593 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: On the very next day, with a foreign swall season 594 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: in the books, Cardinals head coach Dave McGinnis was indeed fired. 595 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: Vikings head coach Mike Tye survived despite the Vikings collapse 596 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: after that six and oh start. As for the Packers, 597 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: the party was just starting and Nate Pool's celebrity was growing. 598 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 8: Nathan Pool, of all people, how about that, Nathan Pull 599 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 8: may become a household name in Green Bay. 600 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 6: It was an amazing play. But you know, like I 601 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 6: say about Nathan, and I'm not being disparaging here, but 602 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 6: that was his fifteen minutes of fame. And then of 603 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 6: course the next week he was given a key to 604 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 6: the city of Green Bay and he got to go 605 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 6: to their playoff game, and. 606 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: That is accurate. Nate Poole, who going into the season 607 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: finale had eight catches all season and no touchdowns, was 608 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: now Packer's royalty, to the point where he got a 609 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: call from the mayor of Green Bay. 610 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 10: So Mayor Schmitz gave me a call and I was like, oh, 611 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 10: here we go. Stop calling my phone because I'm thinking 612 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 10: it's a player, and I'm thinking he's gonna call that 613 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 10: player's gonna call me back and say, man, dude, what 614 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 10: are you doing? 615 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: Then I got a call right back. 616 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 10: It was the same number. Okay, hey, how you doing 617 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 10: this in April? 618 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 6: And he was like, Hey, Nate, no, this is not 619 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 6: a joke. This is Mayor Schmidt. 620 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 10: I love to get you out in a speed talking I. 621 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 6: Love to get you out to one of the games. 622 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 6: I said, oh no, I would love to come out. 623 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: And that's not the only call he got that week. 624 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: On the Big Red Rage radio show with host Dave Pash, 625 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: a Packers fan dialed in from the Midwest line too. Dave, Mary, Joe, 626 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: Mary Joe, Welcome to the Big Red Rage. 627 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 8: Go ahead, Joe. 628 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 7: Hey, guys, thanks a lot. I was just calling to 629 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 7: wish Nate a wonderful time in Green Bay and to 630 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 7: give him a huge thank you. Since the Vikings started 631 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 7: off six and oh this year, I've been taking a 632 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 7: lot of grief for getting a lot of grief from 633 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 7: my friends who are Viking fans, and I would roll 634 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 7: my eyes and just say, oh, you know, won't you 635 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 7: ever learn the Vikings will find some way to implode again. 636 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 7: This year and sweet revenge. It has been a wonderful 637 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 7: couple of days and I just want to offer a 638 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 7: great big thank you. 639 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 3: Hey, Mary Joe, how about taking date out to dinner 640 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 3: when he gets up there. 641 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 7: I'm sure he will have a lot of opportunities to 642 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 7: go out in Green Bay if that is his desire, 643 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 7: he will have a lot of people who will take 644 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 7: good care of him. 645 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: Nate Poole laughed all the way to Green Bay, an 646 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: all expense paid trip in January on the tax Beyar's 647 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: tap as the undrafted receiver from Marshall became a grand 648 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: Marshal of sorts. But don't forget about the other end 649 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: of that touchdown pass QB Josh McCown. 650 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 5: You know, they fly Nate up to Green Bay and 651 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 5: they give him the Kidah City or whatever they did, 652 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 5: and they're sending us. We were getting Christmas cards from 653 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 5: Green Bay fans that it was their family Christmas card, 654 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 5: and you know it would you know, scratched out and 655 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 5: Merry Christmas and thank you for beating the vikings. Go 656 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 5: Pat go, and loads of Christmas cards mail to the 657 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 5: house of the Sargento family. Sent the best cheese basket 658 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 5: you've ever seen in your life. 659 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: That was two thousand and three. But even to this day, 660 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: when he's out and about, Josh McCown gets reaction for 661 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: both school Nation and America's dairy lamb walking. 662 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 5: Through an airport or whatever, and there will be, you know, 663 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 5: a disgruntled Vikings fan and hey, you you know you 664 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 5: owe me, you know type of thing, or it'll be 665 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,439 Speaker 5: a Packers fan that'll be like, thank you for getting 666 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 5: us in the playoffs that year, you know, we owe you. 667 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 9: I was at home back in Minneapolis or watching that game, 668 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 9: and I did not like Nate Poole because I thought 669 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 9: I had a chance to be the number one pick, 670 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 9: and I used to always mess with Nate. 671 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: That's Minnesota native Larry Fitzgerald not only a former Vikings 672 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 1: ball boy and their number one fan at the time, 673 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: but fitz might have been the number one pick overall 674 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: in the NFL draft. 675 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 10: Me and Larry had that conversation. Believe me that he 676 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 10: would have been the number one overall pick. We're talking 677 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 10: in the receiver room before the meeting about being him 678 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 10: being the number one pick. As I think back to 679 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 10: what his sided bonus was, how he didn't do too 680 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 10: bad at the number three pick, people. 681 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 5: Said, well, y'all, you know you cost him the number 682 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 5: one pick, and I go back and go, you know, 683 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 5: I don't think Coach Green would have I think he 684 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 5: would have picked Larry. He was gonna pick Larry, and 685 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 5: it turned out really good for Larry and and ultimately 686 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 5: for the Arizona Cardinals too. He helped lead that franchise, Uh, 687 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 5: you know, through a lot of things to become a 688 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 5: you know, a competitive franchise and you know, to really 689 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 5: what they are today. 690 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 3: Walking away from that with mixed emotions of Wow, what 691 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 3: a way to win a game, but also, oh my goodness, 692 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 3: there goes the quarterback of the future. There goes he lied. 693 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 6: Yep. 694 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,439 Speaker 1: Cardinals won the game, but lost the number one pick, 695 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: which ended up being Ole Miss quarterback Eli Manning. We'll 696 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: never know who knew head coach Danny Green would have 697 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: picked for the Cardinals, or do we. Larry Fitzgerald says 698 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: at number one, he still would have been the Cardinals selection. 699 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 9: Then he said, I would have been. That's what he 700 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 9: told me. He told me I would have been. But 701 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 9: you know what, it all worked his way out. I 702 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 9: was able to still get here and play for him. 703 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 9: I know, we didn't have the success I'd love to 704 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,919 Speaker 9: have for him. You know, he gave me my first 705 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 9: two jobs I ever had as a ball boy and 706 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 9: then as a professional athlete, and so I owe him 707 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 9: a huge debt of gratitude and I'm just so very 708 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 9: thankful for, you know, the doors he opened for me 709 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 9: and my family. 710 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 11: Touchdown Cardinals, they pull and the Cardinals win the game. 711 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 10: The final part, I bring my heart head to practice 712 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 10: in the games every day. And I knew, you know, 713 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 10: that's what it was about as growing up as a youngster, 714 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 10: that it was about, you know, bringing your hard head 715 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 10: and working out and just pushing to make the team. 716 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 3: You know, coaches say run every route as if it's 717 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 3: your last one. Nate Pool really did it. But it 718 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,919 Speaker 3: was like comical, like he went so hard, so pretty 719 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 3: cool to see a guy that worked that hard have 720 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 3: one of the biggest plays of the season, not just 721 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 3: for the Cardinals but for the entire league. 722 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 10: I got to tell people, hey, you can only do 723 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 10: it one play at a time. 724 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: I got you on that play, and needless to say, 725 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: it's the play in Nate Poole's career, one of the 726 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 1: most dramatic and consequential plays in NFL history, the Cardinals. 727 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 11: Have knocked the Fighting's out of the playoffs. 728 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 5: And Nate Poll's a good person. He's a great person 729 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 5: to be around. And you look back at that and 730 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 5: that's a special moment for me in my career as well. 731 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 5: So but it couldn't happen to a better guy. And 732 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 5: they's good dude. 733 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, who says good dudes finished last? 734 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 12: Right? 735 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: In fact, as Dave McGinnis said back then with a 736 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: smile to the media, quote, there were two receivers on 737 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: the field from Marshall that day. They had Randy Moss, 738 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: we had Nathan Poole. So there you have it. Cardinals 739 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: Folk Tales Miracle in the Desert, presented by seventy two 740 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,439 Speaker 1: Soul for producer Jim Mamhundro. I'm Paul Calvic and that's 741 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: the story of how an unknown receiver won that day, 742 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: but a Hall of fame receiver was on his way. 743 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 3: The consolation was probably the greatest player in Cardinals history 744 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 3: and one of the greatest receivers of all time. 745 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: With the third choice in the two thousand and four 746 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select Larry Fitzgerald, wide receiver University. 747 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 6: Of fifth Curd. 748 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 1: That was the red seat Cardinals fans at the official 749 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 1: draft party two thousand and four welcoming Larry Fitzgerald to 750 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: the Valley. Why a departure from the climate a few 751 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: months earlier when many Cardinals fans viewed the win against 752 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,439 Speaker 1: the Vikings as a loss because the Cardinals lost out 753 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: on the number one pick overall and ostensibly a franch quarterback, 754 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: which eventually was Eli Manning as the top overall pick. 755 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: But that wasn't the only change in the NFL. A 756 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: few years after that, the force out rule would be eliminated, 757 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 1: and one of the main examples cited was Nate Poole, 758 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: who only had one foot down in the end zone 759 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: on that game winning playoff busting touchdown catch that eliminated 760 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 1: the Vikings. When we come back, Darren urban would the 761 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: Cardinals have taken a quarterback number one overall? Would it 762 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: still have been Larry Fitzgerald. We'll get Darren's perspective when 763 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,959 Speaker 1: we come back to this very special Cardinals Folktales edition 764 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: of the Big Red Rage Miracle in the Desert presented 765 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: by santan Ford in Gilbert. And we're wrapping up this 766 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,919 Speaker 1: very special Cardinals Folk Tales edition of the Big Red 767 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 1: Rage presented by Santan ford in Gilbert Paul Kelvicy joined 768 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: by Darren Irvan. Darren Irvan covered the game. Miracle in 769 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 1: the Desert is the title of this Cardinal's Folk Tales 770 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: where we're going to the archives in some great rarely 771 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: heard audio that our Jim Almahundro found both from the 772 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: Green Bay Radio broadcast. Also some of the audio we 773 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: heard from Larry Fitzgerald and coach McGinnis Josh McCown all 774 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: talking about not only the end of the game, but 775 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: the start of a new era of Cardinals football in 776 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: so many different ways. In fact, let's start right there, Darren, 777 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: because what if what if the Cardinals had lost that game? 778 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: What if they had picked number one overall? Would they 779 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,479 Speaker 1: still have picked Larry Fitzgerald or would they have gone 780 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback? You know if. 781 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 4: I think they end up taking Larry Fitzgerald, because I 782 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 4: think Denny Green wanted Larry Fitzgerald on his team. You know, 783 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 4: I remember so vividly in the month leading up to 784 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 4: the draft. Denny then he wasn't like a lot of 785 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 4: coaches there were oftentimes when he was. 786 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: He said more. 787 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 4: Then maybe he should. 788 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 6: And I remember in those. 789 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 4: Days, I was covering the team for the East Valley Tribune. 790 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 4: I had come out to a day in the off 791 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 4: season sometime in April, and I was the only writer 792 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 4: here and the only other media member who was showing 793 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 4: up was brad Cessmett, who was working for one of 794 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 4: the local stations that day, and he had an interview 795 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 4: apparently scheduled with Denny Green. And all they did was 796 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 4: bring Denny Green down to the media area and then 797 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 4: they just had a camera and they were sitting there 798 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 4: and they're having it. So as a media member, I'm 799 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 4: going to listen to the interview and take what I can. 800 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 6: Get from it. 801 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 1: Hey, nobody told you you couldn't. 802 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 4: So Denny Green is talking about and you have to 803 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,240 Speaker 4: remember again the draft with Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning 804 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 4: and Philip Rivers. Those are all available with the Cardinals 805 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 4: picking third. And at this point the Cardinals quarterback was 806 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 4: Josh McCaw probably, and there were questions about Josh and 807 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 4: whether he was gonna you know, and Denny loved Josh. 808 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 4: He would talk him up all the time. And at 809 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 4: one point Denny Green said, we're not going to take 810 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 4: a quarterback third overall well, as a reporter, I had 811 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 4: that in this day, this is pre internet, so I 812 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 4: had a big banner headline the next day. Obviously the 813 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 4: other paper in town didn't have the story. So the 814 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 4: next day I came back. There were other writers here. 815 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 4: Ken Summer showed up, Bob bomb from the Associated Press, 816 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 4: and they get Denny Green to come down and talk 817 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 4: and they're trying to get him to say the same 818 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 4: thing again and he won't do it. And finally Bob 819 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 4: Bam says to him, kind of half jokingly, we're trying 820 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,800 Speaker 4: to get you to say what you told Darren yesterday. 821 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 4: And Denny looked at him and he goes, that was yesterday. 822 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 4: Today is today. 823 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: I tell you though, that was back in the days. 824 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 1: And we just talked about this where a quarterback wouldn't 825 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: always go number one, right, And we knew Denny's affinity 826 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: for Larry Fitzgerald, his former ball ball by the way 827 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, so he knew Larry better than anyone and 828 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,720 Speaker 1: fits as it came to be. Once he did get drafted, 829 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 1: he showed up in the Cardinals locker room and there 830 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: was Nate Poole. Nate Poole heard it from Larry that 831 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: he cost him the number one pick overall. 832 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, And look, it's not like the Cardinals made 833 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 4: a poor pick by any stretch of the imagination. But 834 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 4: you do wonder a little bit what, okay, Eli Manning 835 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 4: went number one and then Robert Gallery went number two. 836 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 4: But you wonder a little bit if they didn't take 837 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,240 Speaker 4: Fits and they take Ben Roethlisberger or they take Philip Rivers, 838 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 4: how different does life with the Cardinals? 839 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: You know happen? 840 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 11: Now? 841 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 4: The Cardinals make the two thousand and eight Super Bowl 842 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 4: because they get Kurt Warner, who has his career renaissance 843 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 4: throwing to Ankwambolden and a very very good Larry Fitzgerald. 844 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 4: And the Cardinals don't make the super Bowl unless Larry 845 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 4: has arguably the greatest performed postseason performance of any wide 846 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 4: receiver ever. 847 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 1: So, and guess what, Kurt Warner doesn't end with the 848 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals if Eli Manning doesn't end up with the Giants. 849 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 4: All so true, Although Eli wasn't drafted by the Giants, 850 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 4: he was drafted by the Chargers and they had to 851 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 4: make the trade for Philip Rivers. There's a lot of 852 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 4: intrigue with that draft. 853 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt. Look, Nate Poole didn't have much 854 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: of a career after that. No always remembered for what 855 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: he did for the Green Bay Packers. Got the all 856 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: expenses pay trip in January to Green Bay, gladly because 857 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: he got a key to the city and everything else. 858 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: But they ended up changing the force out rule in 859 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 1: large part because of how that went down in the 860 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: end zone at sun Devil Stadium. 861 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 4: I had no question that it was a force out play. 862 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 4: And now you have to get feet down and if 863 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 4: a guy pushes you out of bounds your eye, that 864 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 4: touchdown does not count in today's NFL. 865 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: So many memorable moments and memorable radio calls from that game. 866 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: One of the great historic moments in Cardinal's history, and 867 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure reliving it, no doubt about it. 868 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: Miracle in the Desert Cardinals folk Tale special thanks to 869 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: our Jim al Mahundro for Darren Urban. I'm Paul Calvic 870 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: once again. An Emmy Award winning series you can find 871 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: on the Cardinals YouTube page, one of many, and it's 872 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: been a pleasure telling you about it here on The 873 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. 874 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 6: Number one til. 875 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 2: You've been listening to the Big Red Rage presented by 876 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 2: Santan Ford in Gilbert. Are you santan Ford State Farm? 877 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 2: Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm 878 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 2: and buy Arizona Cardinals podcasts. 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