1 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: We actually played a showcase for the re Music Row 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: and Steve got his first writing deal out to skip youing. 3 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: Like the minor league. 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: We were the only ones who didn't get a publishing deal. 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: Really yeah, we just kept playing it up. 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: Related episode four twenty two Marty Row of Diamond Rio, 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: which by the way, they're going out go watch them. 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: They're doing their holiday shows Holiday in the Hits, kicking 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: off in Baton Rouge on December first. But it's pretty cool. 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: I mean, Diamond Rio was first concert I ever went to, 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 2: and I do bring that up, but I almost forgot 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: to bring it up. I guess I've known we're going 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: to do it, and I thought it ten times, but 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: I almost never said anything about it. And then I 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: kind of felt weird, going yeah, it was in the 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:54,319 Speaker 2: theme park because I waite feel weird. I don't know, 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: because I didn't know if they would be like, yeah, 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: that's before we hit it. Did I just didn't know, 19 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: but it was it was that Magic Springs was awesome. 20 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: They're like thousand people there. It's my first ever concert. 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: So Marty Row of Diamond Rio. Now he talks about 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: the band. They originated as the Tennessee River Boys back 23 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,639 Speaker 2: in the eighties, they turned into Diamond Rio. They signed 24 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: with Arista Nashville in nineteen ninety one. I mean, come on, 25 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: this song Meet in the Middle is like the ultimate 26 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: country jam. I mean, this is it. You start walking 27 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: And if I were to go through just some of 28 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: the songs that I listened to over and over again, 29 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: I mean, Beautiful Mess from two thousand and two was 30 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: really a jam. I mean, Norma Jean Riley, come on, 31 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: Norman Jean Jam and they have a bunch of number ones. 32 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 2: How about Unbelievable eight. 33 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: Song? 34 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: I forget about how good that one is. Sometimes the 35 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: length of their career is crazy. Yeah, it is crazy, 36 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: I mean ninety one, and then they put out I 37 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: mean I think their last number one was in the 38 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: two thousands. I believe was the crazy though from the nineties, 39 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: two thousands. I know, Here's I Believe from two thousand 40 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: and two. 41 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: I Can't Deep and Reach Across. 42 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: And then here is walking Away another song, I like, 43 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: here you go, No, No, you know this band that 44 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: he talks about it where they played all their own 45 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: instruments and that wasn't really welcomed at the time, And 46 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: we get into that, but here he is Marty Row 47 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 2: of Diamond Rio. Followed them on Facebook at Diamond Rio, 48 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: on Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok at Diamond Rio band. They 49 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: have a current release called The Kick, which you can 50 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: check out and here he is Marty Rowe, Marty Hall. 51 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: The heck are you man? I'm doroughing great. I'm still 52 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: in your net. If we have I don't remember it. 53 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: So that's. 54 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: Okay, I think, and you can tell me if I'm wrong. 55 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: I think, did you do Blake Shelton's video? No, that 56 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 2: was Jimmy, Okay, then that is son. I saw everybody 57 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: all at once, A bunch of people come in when 58 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 2: I was leaving them, Blake in la or something. Yes, okay, 59 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: so then we haven't met. That was the only time 60 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: I thought we might have been in the same room. 61 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: No, that was that was Jimmy's deal. 62 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: I don't even know what. 63 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, they had the dogs. Scott produced that. 64 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: Scott Hendry probably it's yeah. And so I was out 65 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: there doing idol and I was with Blake and then 66 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: I was leaving as the whole band was coming in, 67 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: and I was like right up, and that was it. 68 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: And so Scott sent that off to Jimmy and Jimmy 69 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: uh with the solo in there. 70 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: Hey, that hat's pretty cool, the Burberry hat. 71 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: Hey, award just for you. That's the truth. She said, 72 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: he's really in the hats my wife, I sent my 73 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: you want to hear the whole story. 74 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: I want to hear the whole You. 75 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: Can cut it out. 76 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: We won't cut a dang thing going. 77 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: So here's the deal. So in twenty twenty, my wife 78 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: and my two daughters were scheduled somebody was sending them 79 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: on a trip to Paris, and they really wanted to go. 80 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: And my brother's daughters were in school over there. So anyway, 81 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: that got mixed, of course, because it was twenty twenty 82 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: and it didn't happen. So last year they had to 83 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: cash out their plane tickets and they ended up going 84 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: to Hawaii and I'm like, I'm on the road making 85 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: a living and she's complaining about being in Hawaii for 86 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: her vacation. Anyhow, fast forward to this year, they finally 87 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: got to go to Paris. And so I had looked 88 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: at one of these hats. I didn't know. She said, 89 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: what do you want for Christmas? Or not? Man? If 90 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: I wanted, I go get it. And I'm not real 91 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,679 Speaker 1: picky about stuff. But I have a large hat collection, 92 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: and somebody told me you do too. I have a hat. 93 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: Collection, a shoe collection, dog collection. It feels like. 94 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: I have a collection of shoes. 95 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: It's not a shoe collection exactly. That's do you know 96 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: how much that hat cost you? 97 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: Yes? I found out, but I found out. 98 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: Here's the deal. 99 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: I found out. So she did. Couldn't find it in Paris. 100 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: She fands it in London. Apparently it was cheaper, which 101 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: is a relative term, very relative, and not any of 102 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 1: my relatives. But she goes, it's four hundred and twenty euro. 103 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: So get your phones out and you do the translation. Well, 104 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: when I saw a lot of money. When I saw 105 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: you coming, I was like, man, I go, and I go, 106 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: I said. When I first saw it for Christmas last year, 107 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: I said, oh, man, I don't want one of those. 108 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: I said that that hat is literally you put something 109 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: of that garment on and it's basically saying some things 110 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to say to people. And she goes, well, 111 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: we can find a fake when and I went, well, that's. 112 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: The yeah, that's right. Well I appreciate When you walked down, 113 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 2: I was like, that is legit. 114 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: Three hundred and thirty or forty bucks for this hat. 115 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: And this is probably the only place I will ever 116 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: wear it. Really just for you. 117 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,119 Speaker 2: Now, that's a fun It brings that your eyes. Yeah, 118 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: did you know? 119 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: And you brought you a couple. 120 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 2: I know, I see that. I can't wait to look 121 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: at it. 122 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: They were not that expensive. 123 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: What's interesting about you? And about Diamond Rio. My first 124 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: ever concert of my whole life with you guys. 125 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: I heard that, well you had how old were you? Eleven? 126 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: Something like that. Diamond Rio formed in nineteen eighty two 127 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: at Opryland, USA, a former theme park that was based 128 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: on country music in Nashville, and they had some member 129 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: changes early in the years, but since then the band 130 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 2: has consisted of the same six members. From nineteen eighty 131 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 2: nine to twenty twenty two, three of the band's albums 132 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 2: have been certified platinum. They received four Group of the 133 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: Year Awards from the CMAS, two Top Vocal Group Awards 134 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: from the ACMs, and one Grammy Award. We went to 135 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: Magic Springs and it was an arc and theme park. Yeah, 136 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: in a theme park, and I mean I listened to 137 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 2: you guys as tape. It was that transition of tape 138 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: to CD time for me too, So I had the 139 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: same exact tape and CD same album because it had 140 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: all kind of shifted from tape and I was so pumped. 141 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: It was awesome. I mean, I don't really remember anything 142 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: except for just like being I cannot believe I'm seeing 143 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 2: famous people. That's what I felt like to me is 144 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: this as a kid in a small town from Mountain Pine, Arkansas, 145 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: and you guys are my first concert ever and it 146 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 2: was awesome. And I kept waiting for me in the 147 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 2: middle and you did it finally and then that was it. 148 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: Show was over. 149 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: It was great. Yeah. Yeah, we learned pretty quick with 150 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: when we only had one hit, which was me from Middle. 151 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: You play that one last or or your walk out 152 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: music after that. 153 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: So that was that. You know, you listen to music 154 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: sometimes it really reminds you of things. Listening to that 155 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: record that reminds me of writing in the van going 156 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: to and from church. That was a really significant time 157 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: and that's what we listened I was sitting there done that. 158 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: That's what we listened to. That was that record back. 159 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: Every time we did anything was that record? 160 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: Is that right? 161 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: You have a big, big piece of like my my 162 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: memory and my life with you guys when you go 163 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: and you start singing at Aupreyland and this is before 164 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: Tennessee River Boys, this is just you. What were you 165 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: doing at first when you started to be a performer. 166 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: Were you doing. 167 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: Songs about the park? Were you buy yourself or you 168 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: in a group? Like what is your first singing job 169 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: at Opprey Land? 170 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? It was. It was a cast show called after 171 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: Music USA. And we did what you would call mimicking, 172 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: uh and we did country hits and you were you 173 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: were supposed to. It was a caricature and do kind 174 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: of what your your version of them? And I had 175 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: an ability apparently with my ear. 176 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: Too, was that to do a lot of would you have? 177 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: I did? I had the ability with my. 178 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: Ear, God and with your ear something he said, got 179 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: to be. 180 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: Able to manipulate my voice and sound like real different 181 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: people somewhere. 182 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: You could sing like that artist well enough that it 183 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: commute it got by. 184 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: I mean I was a big Gatlin fan, so I 185 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: could do. I can't do it anymore, but I could 186 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: do Gatlin. I could do I did Hanks senior. 187 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: Impressions too, like no, that's what it was. Yeah, But 188 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: could you do like spoken impressions as. 189 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: We No, not really just singing. 190 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: Some of my friends have that ear like you're talking about. 191 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't a little bit. 192 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: But no, they can hear someone singing and they can 193 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: sing just like them. They can hear like a rich 194 00:08:59,080 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: little or whomever. 195 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 196 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, they can do those impressions like that. But you 197 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: could do that singing. 198 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: No, but you got to sit and practice that. 199 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 2: Is that what you did? 200 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: Yes, I did for that. 201 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 2: You just listen to the st the tape over and over. 202 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Like Stephen Curtis Chapman, you know. 203 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: I do know, yeah, Stephen Curtis Chapman. He's an American 204 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: contemporary Christian music singer, songwriter, producer, actor, author, and social activist. 205 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: Chapman began his career in the late eighties a songwriter 206 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: and a performer, and has received the most awards in 207 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: Christian music. That's five Grammys and fifty nine Gospel Music 208 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 2: Association Dove Awards. That's more than anybody. Chapman's first number 209 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: one was His Eyes, which was released in spring of 210 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight. 211 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 3: Jus never convince. 212 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,599 Speaker 2: No man away you go. 213 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: You will always be here. Steve and I would do 214 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: we did the faster flat Neurle Scruggs. Jeez, excuse me, 215 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: forgive me, but yeah, we did that, and so that 216 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: wasn't too hard. But the Gatlin things really kind of 217 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: what got me in the door at that time in 218 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: my life. I pretty much nailed that. 219 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 2: You and Stephen kras Shaman working together at Aubreyland, that's where. 220 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: We both gott yeah, and we were writing some together. 221 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: And actually when I got into this band, which was 222 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: the Tennessee River Boys at the time, and had a 223 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: show at the park. We actually played a showcase for 224 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: some us and about three or four other writers that 225 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: were worked out at the park for the Music Row, 226 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: and Steve got his first writing deal out of that. 227 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: Soda Skip Ewing Tim Nichols. 228 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: It's like then, like the minor league of we were. 229 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: The only ones who didn't get a publishing deal. Really. Yeah, 230 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: we just kept playing at Appyland. 231 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: The Tennessee River Boy that always turned out that evolved 232 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: into Diamond Rio. But how did the Tousy Boys come 233 00:10:58,320 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: together to begin with? 234 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: It was that was other guys, not any of us. 235 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: And they had a new ride called the Grizzly River 236 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: Rampage and they had formed a band and were playing 237 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: private things at the hotel. Hotel they had a booking 238 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: agent and the hotel they formed a band to get 239 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: jobs over there, and then they asked them to just 240 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: do what they were doing. It was basically top forty 241 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,599 Speaker 1: type stuff, current country music, and they were good performers. 242 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: Paul Gregg the bass player in Russell's artist brother Danny 243 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: and Matt Davenport and Ty Herndon was the lead singer. 244 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 2: And so they just rotated since it was an act there, 245 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: did people come in and out? 246 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? Man, the band was Yeah, it was kind of 247 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: like spinal tap. Yeah. There were many different people that 248 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: claimed have been in this band. 249 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: So what was special about you guys's you know a 250 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: version of it? 251 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: Well, it became much more original. We became more focused. 252 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: When I came in, we were more focused on trying 253 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: to get a record deal Alabama. The Advent of Alabama 254 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: had happened because that was an eighty two and Alabama 255 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: was brand new and the idea of a kind of 256 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: a rock and roll band in country music self contained, 257 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: so it was perceived in and so we chased that dream. 258 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: At the same time, Paul and Greg and Scott Hendricks 259 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: and all those guys were they were doing the putting 260 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: together a band down on the road. They'd been playing 261 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: studio stuff, and we're all just young, you know, try 262 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: to do hip stuff. That was basically a cross between 263 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: our country background and the seventies rock and roll that 264 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: we grew up loving. And we kind of melded those 265 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: two things. However, you some way shape or form that 266 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: those influences are in both in what we do. And man, 267 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: we just kept on plowing and creating and and reality 268 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: of getting guys getting married, having children, attritionian guys. You know, 269 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: I can't because we weren't making any money, right, and 270 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: so they they would one guy would leave and we 271 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: would be down about that, and you know, somebody knew 272 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: it coming. That was me. I ty went and did 273 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: Star Search and finished second got a record deal out 274 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: of it, and he left the band, and so they 275 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: asked me to join. And I was still working at 276 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: the park and another show. So another guy did did 277 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: the park park when I worked at the park. When 278 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: we were not working at the park, I was in 279 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: the band and I didn't sing lead. I just sang 280 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: tenor and played mandlin and acoustic and then you know, 281 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: one by one, drummer and piano left shortly thereafter, and 282 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: Dan Truman and another guy named JJ Whites. They was 283 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: a drummer at the park. We left the park, JJ left, 284 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: the steel player left, and we had to replace a 285 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: guitar player. And that's when Oleander came in March of 286 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: eighty five, and it was went kind of fast, but 287 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: for a while there, but we kept changing members and 288 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: it kept the sound kept getting more unique and different, 289 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: and and Gene came along. All of a sudden, I 290 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: went to sing in the low part the bass player, 291 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: the only original member left. Matt was singing, and we 292 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: got we started getting that bluegrass thing because I was 293 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: familiar with that name from roots in eastern Kentucky and stuff. 294 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: And then Matt decided to leave when I became the 295 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: lead singer and and we and Dana came along. Of 296 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: course he is bluegrass. It's Osborne Brothers and all over 297 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: uncles and it just I can remember the first song 298 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: we did with Dana. It was the vocal sound man. 299 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: It locked in. But the idea to have a piano 300 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: and a bender guitar and a piano was just organic 301 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: and the and the different influences that we had we'd 302 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: all liked like Dixie Draggs. I don't know anybody knows 303 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: who that is, but they had a lot of ensemble 304 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: harmony stuff instrumentally, So instrumentally we had a unique sound, 305 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: and I thought that was I wanted to hang on 306 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: to that, because instrumentally you knew who we were before 307 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: you ever heard the vocal, and I thought that was value. 308 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 4: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor. Wow, 309 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 4: and we're back on the Bobby cast. 310 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 2: Whenever you were playing mandoline or rhythm and singing. 311 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: As soon as Gene came around, I hung the manlin 312 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: on the wall and it's pretty much been there ever since. 313 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: Well, were you ever like I should be the lead singer? 314 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 4: Like? 315 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: No, you when you weren't the lead singer, you didn't 316 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: feel like you should be. 317 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: I was like. 318 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: How do they coax you into it? 319 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: Then? I like singing, you know, lead a melody, but 320 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be the front guy. I was. 321 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm shy, and naturally I don't tend to not really 322 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: care to be out front. I can be a ham 323 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: you know, I can do it, but I had to 324 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: learn how to do that. But it happened because of 325 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: Keith Stiegel. We went to the studio with Keith and 326 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: we were doing original stuff try to get a record deal, 327 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: and Keith agreed to produce some tracks on us, and 328 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: we did a couple of things that we had written, 329 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: and Matt couldn't sing the scratch vocal and play bass, 330 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: so I sang all the scratches and that was the 331 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: first time Keith had ever heard me sing lead. 332 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: So because he couldn't do it both at the same 333 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: time at the level I hated to be done in 334 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: the studio, right, yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. 335 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: Back then you're would have bleed and stuff. 336 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: So he had to do him at the same time. 337 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: So he played bass and I sing scratch with the 338 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: intention that he would come in and overduble over me. 339 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: But when then we had a meeting after that and 340 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: our Keith asked us to get together and we did 341 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: and he said, I think Marty should I should pitch 342 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: somebody SAWT with him as the lead singer, And unbeknownst 343 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: to me, all my other bandmates other than the one 344 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: who was singing lead all jumped in and really agreed 345 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: with that. And how'd you feel about that? It became 346 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: a very uncomfortable moment. Matt was not happy, and rightfully so. 347 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: He's a great musician. He's been very successful. And we 348 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: had a gig. We had to go work, and of 349 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: course back then having a gig was a big deal 350 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: because he didn't have them all the time, and it 351 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: was in Canada. We did two weeks sit down in Canada, 352 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: in Montreal, and not a soul spoke English, and we 353 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: spent two weeks in his band house in this very 354 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: uncomfortable situation. And I was sad to stand in the 355 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: center and become the lead guy, and I was nobody 356 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: knew it was a great place to do it because 357 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: nobody would ever know. But I began to learn that craft. 358 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: And when we got home, Matt call Mean said he 359 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: had decided to leave, So then we had to look 360 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: for That's when Dana came along. That was in eighty nine. 361 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: Well when did the band transition from the Tennessee river 362 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: Boys to Diamond Rio. It was the late eighties. 363 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, musically we've always since about eighty eight or nine, 364 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: we've been what you know is Diamond Rio. Of course 365 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: we're better at. 366 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: It now, sure I don't, But why did you change 367 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: the name? 368 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: Well, we changed the name because Tennessee Rairboys sound like 369 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: a you know, like a Gospels. Yeah, yeah, and that's 370 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: not really what we did. And we wanted something that 371 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: was a little more nondescript, a lot hipper sounding, more 372 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: current in the for the nineties anyway. But we decided 373 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: not to change the name. We had a following under 374 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: that name that we were making some money with the 375 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: woman in the studio. We would go out work as 376 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: Tennessee Raarboys. Matter of fact, we did our first radio 377 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: promotion tour when Meet in the Middle came out. We 378 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: were as the Tennessee River Boys. But we would stop 379 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: at radio stations and do our our Diamond Rio that's 380 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: radio visits the new single, And at the end of 381 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: each of one of those shows, we would play Meet 382 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: in the Middle and say we've changed their name, and 383 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: all the people you could see their eyes go, I've 384 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: seen you, I've seen that video. 385 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: Got it? 386 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 387 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 2: Why Diamond Rio? Like, what are the names? I'm always 388 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: interested in words? Why those words? 389 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: I'm glad I don't have to do that. That was 390 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: a very very difficult Picking a name is an awful 391 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: but I'm glad it's over. But we had gone through 392 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of names, and we had bunch of friends, 393 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: and believe it or not, that name came from Shenandoah 394 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: guys Mike and Marty, they they they had they they 395 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: they did business under the name Diamond Rio. I think 396 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: they still do. Like when they check in the hotel 397 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: in Shenandoah, it's Diamond Rio doing business as Shenandoah. And 398 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: and they they said the record they didn't like it, 399 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: and they used the R E O saying and and 400 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: so they didn't use it, and they just kind of said, 401 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,719 Speaker 1: here's something because we've been messing with diamond Back and Dimond. 402 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: We liked Diamond for some reason, and we liked that. 403 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: We changed it to Rios More southwest Field. And we 404 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: also didn't have a clue if we get sued by 405 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: the trucking company, which is Diamond Real, as there's. 406 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 2: A Diamond Real trucking company. 407 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: Cross road trucks. Yeah, dump trucks. 408 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 2: Spelled the same. 409 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: Now it's spelled Rio. It's a bit quick history. R E. 410 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: Olds Oldsmobile Okay, sold the GM he started making. Old 411 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: was his name, Yes, huh Oldsmobile, So ri E Olds 412 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: was and so they started making fire engines, bus Rio 413 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: speed wagons. 414 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: That's my next question. 415 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: That's what they were called. And then there was a 416 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: trucking company called Diamond t They merged in nineteen sixty 417 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: four and uh we and became Diamond Reel and they 418 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: made trucks till they were still making some trucks when 419 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: we first came out, mostly dump trucks and seemen. 420 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 2: And you never heard from them going, hey you got 421 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 2: her name. 422 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: No, well, they called us when we were in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, 423 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: which is where the factory was. This was in ninety one, 424 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: and said do you want to come to an other factory? 425 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: And we did. I got mud flaps, like I'm not 426 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: real stuff in my garage right now. 427 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 2: So you guys are known in like the history of 428 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: country music as the first band ever put out a 429 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: debut single to go number one. I guess I'm surprised 430 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: that that had never happened, so were we, Like, I'm 431 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: not surprised that song did it, or that you did 432 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: it because I was a big fan, but that it 433 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 2: had never happened with any band to go number one 434 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 2: on a debut single. 435 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's really tough. I mean Alabama bands, 436 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: Alabama didn't do it, and they probably had the best shot, 437 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: I guess. But they had Tennessee River and that came 438 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: out and it went like top twenty, and then they 439 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: released My Homes in Alabama that was number Then they 440 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: re released tennis Sea River and it went number one. 441 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: But they were the closest before us. Now that's happened since. 442 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: But there was before Alabama, and there were quartets. Okay, 443 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: there was the Oaks, and there were the Statler brothers 444 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: and and things like that, and It'll do it, you know, 445 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: brother like the Osburn's and Jim and Jesse. Uh. They 446 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: though there were a lot of those, and those were 447 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: considered vocal groups, but there really weren't. You know. Nashville 448 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 1: was all about the same a team when Chet was here, 449 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: I mean they dreamlined that and and it was a 450 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: factory and they and so great players, but they played 451 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: on all the records and being a band and coming 452 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: up in the seventies, rock and roll was all about 453 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: the band, wasn't. You didn't even have pictures of the band. 454 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: It was just Chicago logo, you know whatever, and that's 455 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: kind of that's our that's our wheelhouses when we were 456 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: growing up, and that was a big part of our 457 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: musical influence. Thank goodness. It was really cool music, great music, 458 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: and I'd never really made a distinction between I didn't 459 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: grow up making a distinction between country and because I 460 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: did classic stuff. You know, I was in choral groups, 461 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: and I just liked great music and I enjoyed all 462 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: all of it. And I guess in some way, shape 463 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: or form, and there are some of those things that 464 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: influenced what we did. And it's kind of a hodgepole, 465 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: which is true of all generational music. You know, this 466 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: generation has something a lot of different things that influenced 467 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: them that never influenced us, And the same thing's true 468 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: of my predecessors. 469 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: So when you guys played, you talk about bands and 470 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: how the bands that you looked up to had certain 471 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: images and sounds. Do you guys play every note on 472 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: the records? I mean that again was kind of on 473 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 2: heard of then, because like you're talking about. 474 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: Yea country music, it was. It was unheard of, and 475 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: we we got we didn't take about at least two 476 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: record deals because they didn't want us to do it. 477 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: They wouldn't let us do it, and so we kind 478 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: of turned down. That was a that was a well 479 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: they what's the how they used that? That was a 480 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: breaking point, I know, I know, negotiating for us, which 481 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: is amazing that we had the intestinal fortitude to do 482 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: that actually, but we just we knew that our sound 483 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: was unique, not that we were We thought we were better. 484 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: It's just different than what you know. Otherwise. The only 485 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: thing that would make us unique would be my voice 486 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: in our three part Harvey, which is has got some 487 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: unique and I think it would probably work. 488 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: But you would have like, you're crazy, You're not taking 489 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: a deal. 490 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: You have lost Jimmy Olanders. Yeah, your guitar and the 491 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: and the texture between Gene and the piano and that 492 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: Bender playing unison licks and harm harmony licks, all that. 493 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: They could have tried to mimic it, but there was nobody. 494 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: There wasn't the first bender that ever existed at the 495 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: Forest double Bender, like Jimmy plays him and Joe Glazer 496 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: made it in their dorm room in Belmonts you know, 497 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: I meaning they that's yeah, he's a I mean Jimmy 498 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: and Joe are they They forged that path. There was benders. 499 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: Graand Parsons played a b Bender. There were bee Benders, 500 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: and they had to do with the steel guitar. For 501 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: those who don't know what that means, it's like a 502 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: steel guitar. There's little mechanisms. You see their knees go 503 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: walking lucky. 504 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 2: They're being Suzanne Sewers, the master. 505 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, stretching the string to a half step one way 506 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: or the other, down or up. And so Jimmy has 507 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: that mechanism hooked to his guitar strap and to his 508 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: belt loop not on one, and so he does these 509 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: weird and that's how Meet in the Middle was created. 510 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: That lick, you can't play it, he can't play it 511 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: without a bender guitar and well, well, well that. 512 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: Break nicely doom. Yeah, it's exactly that. People think that's 513 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: the studio recording, it's not. It's actually Meet in the 514 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: Middle was released in nineteen ninety one and it was 515 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 2: the first of five number one songs for Diamond Rio. 516 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: I Start Fucking Lady, start Walking the Mine, We met Georgia. 517 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 2: Why that song is a single? Was it always going 518 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: to be the first single? Is there a storybind why 519 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 2: that song was picked? 520 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: No? Man, When when I, Jimmy and I, when we 521 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: heard the demo, we got out voted on whether to 522 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: cut it or not four to two because we were 523 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: not into it. The demo was not good. It wasn't 524 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: like it is. There was no the bridge didn't exist. 525 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: And Monty Powell, who was my roommate in college and 526 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: was producing what we were doing along with Tim to 527 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: the wall. But Monny and I and Jimmy we went 528 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: to work on mostly money and uh, we're just coming 529 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: up with some sort of turnaround, a bridge or whatever 530 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: you want to call a b section. And that's where 531 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 1: they started playing that that went to those changes and 532 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: I just I just did you know, just making it babe, 533 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: you know how we'd work it out, and that's what 534 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: love is all about. Bam, and right back into it 535 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: and and we as we work through the saw. I 536 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: want to preface that with when we lose a vote 537 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: in our deal, there's six fingers. When you're listening to 538 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: those songs like we would you raise the fingers like 539 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: pushing fast forward and I'm done. And anytime we had 540 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: four votes that wanted to keep the saw, we did, 541 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: and we went in. We cut it and the rule 542 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: was and we we verbalized this, We're going to all 543 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: even the ones who got out voted, will give it 544 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: their best shot because if you don't and it is 545 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: up everybody else loves it as a single, you have 546 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: your not your best performance on there. But I don't 547 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: want that. So we got that pretty quick. So we 548 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: all gave it our best effort to make it, to 549 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,719 Speaker 1: make it work, even though I didn't wasn't really all 550 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: let into it start off with. When we finished the record, 551 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: the tracking, just the tracking, and it had a rough 552 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: vocal art. For me, it was yeah, that was when 553 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: the epiphany happened on it. This is you liked it? Then? 554 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 2: Yes, So when you talk about the bridge, you know, 555 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 2: let's see, I love the way we work it asked, well, 556 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: I was all about could you do you ever? Would 557 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 2: you be recording and kind of just say stuff in 558 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,959 Speaker 2: the studio or were you writing it down? Like how 559 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 2: would you come up with that new bridge? And now 560 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 2: went specifically, and I can. 561 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: Have a great memory of it, but I'm pretty sure 562 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: it was ends. We had all the time in the 563 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: world in the studio. We actually went to what we 564 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: used with our record money. We bought a studio, we 565 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: bought all the equipment and rented a little past over 566 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: in a fight what they called the fights. 567 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: Well that's quite responsible. 568 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we did not go blow it. 569 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: It didn't sound like it. So you, guys, how did 570 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,959 Speaker 2: it feel, Because it depends on the speed of the 571 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: success of the song. Did it feel like me in 572 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 2: the middle was flying up a chart? Did your life 573 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: feel like it was changing? 574 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: It was because we were starving to death and had struggled. 575 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: I've been in this band since eighty four. Not until 576 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: basically nineteen ninety did we even do a handshake deal 577 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: with Tim to have a record deal. And on that 578 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: we were able to get some writing contracts and a 579 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: little bit of money and sit down and I didn't 580 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: go on the road anymore. Just we were wrote and 581 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: the way we wrote we Monny had a sixteen track 582 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: in his basement. We would sit and work all day 583 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: on ride on stuff and literally get on the bass 584 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: boat online. 585 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: And go this all night and do it again the 586 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: next day. 587 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: Yep. Then, and we kept writing, and Jimmy and I 588 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: and Dan did a lot of that together and ended 589 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: up coming up with a lot of songs. And other 590 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: guys were writing too, and we were We spent our 591 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: time writing in a studio, not unlike what they used 592 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: to do back in the seventies, where you just kind 593 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: of go in and create a record. Now we were listening, 594 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: we put all of our create our stuff right alongside 595 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: with the greatest. We were all of a sudden getting 596 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: top notch songs pitched to us, and we didn't. We 597 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: didn't give ourselves a preference. A matter of fact, we 598 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: probably judged our stuff more critically. 599 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 2: Instead of the other way around, which is usually the 600 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 2: game to a fall. 601 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: Yes, but but we've we found great songs and then 602 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: we we always made them our own. We didn't sometimes 603 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: the demo was great, we would we would would not 604 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: be too proud to go, let's see if we can 605 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: do that just a little better. I would real on 606 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: that that arranged me. But not that's not true most 607 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: of the time, at least it wasn't for us. 608 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 3: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the 609 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 3: Bobby Cast. 610 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: You've talked about golfing, and you've talked about fishing a 611 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: little bit, and you've talked about cars a little bit. 612 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 2: I haven't just at the passion that you talk about them. 613 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: I would expect those of the three things you love 614 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: I do. 615 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: I love I love God all the outdoors. I love 616 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: to be outdoors, and I love to play golf, and 617 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: I used to fish and hunt, and I don't have 618 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: time to do all of them. 619 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: How often you play. 620 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: Golf three or four times in a week, you're. 621 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 2: Gonna say it. That's going to say, how do you 622 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: even have time to do that? 623 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: I live on the golf course. Did it was one 624 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: of the first things I was able to do. We 625 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: bought a home in Williamson County that was on golf 626 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: course that was not in great shape, but it is 627 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: now called Nashville Golf and Athletic and it's. 628 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 2: An incredible played there last week. 629 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: Diamond in the Rough played there last week. Yeah, beat 630 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: you up. 631 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: It will beat you up. There's a hole. Maybe it's 632 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 2: like I haven't played enough to all the holes. But 633 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 2: if it's like fourteen or fifteen, you have to you 634 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: don't really know how far. You're up on a hill 635 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 2: and you have to three. It's all far. Four. It's 636 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 2: a short part four, but you have to hit it. 637 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 2: And you think you can just cut the corner and 638 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: you drive around your lege. You can't re look cut 639 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 2: the car. Number five Maybe I don't know. Maybe we 640 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 2: played a that was it? And ten is that the 641 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 2: one I. 642 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: Number one is the toughest, one of the toughest. 643 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: Number one sucks. You're right, it's hard. We were driving 644 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: off and the lady was like, be careful for the 645 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: water on one and we're like, yeah, whatever. Then we 646 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 2: get the tea off the tea and then on your 647 00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: second shut. 648 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: Yeah everywhere and if the green on your third. 649 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 2: Shoes hitting the water off the tea, you know, I 650 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: didn't know the water was over there. So you can 651 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 2: play a few times a week. You feel pretty good? 652 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: Are you healthy? Yeah? Oh yeah, I love it. I 653 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: don't play as well as I used to. I was 654 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: very very into it. I still am. But yeah, I 655 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: mean I have my handicap down the scratch and what 656 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, I know that's the truth. But I 657 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: I've got a little since twenty twenty. I went through 658 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: a few things with my family that I just could 659 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: have this golf was not in it, and my mother 660 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: passed and then my father and of course twenty twenty 661 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff, and I can't hit it. 662 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: I got old, what do you think you are? Now? 663 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: I know what I am. Well, what I'm living. 664 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 2: Okay, that's about what I am. 665 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: Now. 666 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: I've played for seven that's pretty good. Behind this curtainer. 667 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: I got a simulator, and you think i'd be better. 668 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: I know, like it's fun if it's snowing outside, that's 669 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: when it's to work on your swing and yeah, stuff 670 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: like that. 671 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: But simulator won't you just and I do. 672 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: But it's not the same golf. Yeah, golf is a 673 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: creative game, and that's what I like about it. 674 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 2: Golf has affected other parts of my life too, where 675 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,479 Speaker 2: with the you hit in the woods, are you gonna 676 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 2: freak out and be like, Oh, this sucks or do 677 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 2: you just have to go I gotta forget that. I 678 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 2: got to remember maybe why I did it. But I 679 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:25,919 Speaker 2: can't let that affect the next thing. 680 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: It's that I've learned. I learned things everybody should, but 681 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: I learned things about myself when I when I have 682 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: many options, when I'm in the middle of the fairway 683 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: and I got all kinds of different ways to play 684 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: this shot and and have a correct result when I 685 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: desired result, I lose focus and I will That's when 686 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: I will hit my worst shots when I only have 687 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: one option. And it's something that most people will go, 688 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: you can't do that, you can't see fall through that. 689 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's I don't have can't in my vocabulary, 690 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: so and and I will, I'll hit some of the 691 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: coolest jobs. 692 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 2: Why do you think that. 693 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: In the woods? I love that part of Why do 694 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: you think that? 695 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 2: Is focus? 696 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: For focus, I would I would say focus and just 697 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: no choice. You had no choice but to play this 698 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: play or you're going to have to. You're you know 699 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna make a ten whenever you pick up and 700 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 1: you go the next hole. And that's the other cool 701 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: thing about golf. You get eighteen chances, you know, and 702 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: you can always come back and do it again, which 703 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: should something about life. Even a lot of things in 704 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: life you can't you do get another crack as they 705 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: come around, often the same scenarios, not always every now 706 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: and then there's once in a lifetime things that you 707 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: wish you had done better, stuff like that. 708 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 2: Tell me about the cake. 709 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: We had. I mean, that was a lot of fun, 710 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: but that came about, you know. Obviously we had two 711 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: guys retire if no one out there knows, but Jeane 712 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: and Brian both retired from the business and they're enjoying 713 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: being done. They're a little older than the four of 714 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: us who stayed and we're happy for them, but we 715 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: didn't want to quit and we needed a drummer and 716 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: somebody saying I army play Manlin and so during all 717 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: that it didn't happen all. At the same time, when 718 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: Brian left, he had actually groomed Micah, who was our drummer. 719 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: He had been his sub for many men for about 720 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 1: a decade. And Micah is young. They're both really young. 721 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: He's forty I think now, but he started playing with 722 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: us when Brian went through his first surgeries for carpal 723 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: tunnel and things like that that are common with drummers, 724 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: and was awesome, and he had grown up worshiping. That's 725 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: how he learned to play drums, was listening to Diamond 726 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: Real records. And he's a spectacular talent, so that was 727 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: a natural thing. That was the only question was with 728 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 1: Michael say yes, and he did, and so he's been 729 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: with us for a couple of years now. And then 730 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,959 Speaker 1: we were subbing with these guys that bluegrass dudes, sang 731 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: high harmony and played manlin, fiddle whatever, and they really 732 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: couldn't hang if several of them I won't name them, 733 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: but they were well known and awesome musicians of their 734 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: own right and had some success. And there one of 735 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: them said, you know, you realize Jean's a freak the 736 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: way he seeks so high and it's not false set in, 737 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: it's full voice. And so we had we had a 738 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 1: couple of girls that were subbing and they did great. 739 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: And this little girl who was a senior at UK 740 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: and of course I'm a big Kentucky fan, so that 741 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: didn't hurt. But she was a fiddle champion and competition 742 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: fiddle player and sang high harmony and it fit and 743 00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: she was high energy, and he grabbed a hold of 744 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: mail and started learning that it's all same fingerings, but 745 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: it's totally different. But she's been champed. And her name's 746 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 1: Carson McKee. So by the end of the year, Jeane 747 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: lost his wife during all that, that was part of 748 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: the reason why he was gone. That's the only reason. 749 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: He was obviously where he needed to be with June 750 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 1: in her struggle. And when that was over, he Gene 751 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,959 Speaker 1: was seventy three years old seventy two at the time, 752 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: and he decided he wanted to do the same thing 753 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: as as Brian did. And so when that happened, we 754 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: asked Carson if she would at least, you know, do 755 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: a full year with us. And she's been here now 756 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: going on two years, about year and a half, and 757 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 1: so when that happened, so we're back to the kick. 758 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: When those two young uns came in, we wanted to 759 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: showcase their abilities, and she was wanting and Jimmy was 760 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: wanting to write some stuff, so him and Carson started 761 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: writing this thing, and then Micah got involved because he 762 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,720 Speaker 1: had heard it and just kind of all got involved 763 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: with add R two cents work, not unlike how we 764 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: used to do it. And also we had we had 765 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: an instrumental, which we've always done. We've had instrumentals on 766 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: every album from the very beginning and had several nominated 767 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,720 Speaker 1: for Grammys. Ever wanted Grammy, but on the instrumental side 768 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: that that's always been a part of what we've done. 769 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, Micah is a film He 770 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: was doing shooting videos and things like that already for 771 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: a living, so he shot the video and edited it. 772 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 1: He does he's spectacular of that. And we had friends 773 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: across the road from Jimmy who had this great shop 774 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,919 Speaker 1: and all these cool collectible cars, and we just came 775 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: up with this idea and It's what's cool about where 776 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 1: we are in our life. It's like, if nobody cares 777 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: or nobody likes, I don't care. We just do it 778 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: for fun and we know that it's going to be 779 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: good music because that's that's what we do. We wouldn't 780 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: put it out. We feel like we hold ourselves to 781 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: the higher accountability than anyone else does. And if it 782 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: doesn't hit the chord with somebody, then okay. I mean 783 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 1: it's our label and with our money, and we shot 784 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 1: the video and that's what I like about. That's the 785 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: good thing about what's going on in music business with 786 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 1: the Internet and being able to get an outlet out 787 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: there and not have to go through certain gatekeepers that 788 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: we that we grew up having to go through. That's 789 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: that's cool like that. 790 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,720 Speaker 2: Starting December first, you guys are out on the road. 791 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: Through the eighteenth or someone like seventeenth or eighteen. Yes, yes, 792 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: we're doing every weekend. We're having our Christmas Show, Diamond 793 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: Real Holiday and the Hits and it is. It varies. 794 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a lot of Christmas stuff. Sometimes it's mostly hits. 795 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: But the Christmas Show itself is mostly Christmas. You know. 796 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 1: It's a great diversion for us. And it's a great 797 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 1: it's a fun show. It's a lot of fun, and 798 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: it shows a slightly different side of us. And you'll 799 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: get to hear your favorite Christmas songs and you'll definitely 800 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: hear mine. 801 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 2: Well what about though, if I go, am I going 802 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 2: to hear this is a bit of a mess. It's 803 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 2: a bit of a mess. 804 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: Minute any one for sure? How about it? We'll be 805 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: in there. 806 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 2: As long as you do that. I don't know any 807 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,919 Speaker 2: words of any song, but I know everywhere. 808 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: To me in the middle. 809 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 2: I'm not singing that though. Good I tried, thank you, Yes, 810 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 2: I tried. Didn't go well for me. Uh so let 811 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,240 Speaker 2: me say this you guys. Go check it out on Facebook, 812 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 2: at Diamond Rio, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, and Diamond Rio band 813 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,959 Speaker 2: and go check out the show. It's I'm super pumped. 814 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 2: Thanks for coming and hanging out. Thanks for the merch. 815 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 1: Yes, you're right, And I didn't know what signe, so 816 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: I brought it and large and I saw where you 817 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: you just fairly recently married the last year or so. Yes, 818 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,399 Speaker 1: and so if if the medium doesn't fit you, maybe 819 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: it'll fit the wife. Is she a diamond real she is? 820 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 2: Who's not? 821 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,879 Speaker 1: What would you say you're not gonna Yes? I would. 822 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 2: I would for sure be like she never heard of you. 823 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 2: No worry, I tell you truth like you're. 824 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: Talking the truth. But yes, And we are working on 825 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: a new single okay, a new song okay. Uh and 826 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: it is actually from the off Balls about something that 827 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 1: Jimmy and I. Uh and a girl named Heather wrote 828 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: who uh not an instrumental? No, No, this is a 829 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 1: duet with Carson. So this is gonna be that's all 830 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: waiting about. She and I are not about she and 831 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: I was about my daughter and when she went to 832 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: she went off to school and in Australia and to 833 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: chase her dream about being in the Praisen worship world. 834 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: And uh and I we wrote this song with aw. 835 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: It just killed me. She's as far away from me 836 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: as she could get. 837 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 2: If she've kept going, she just get closer, the exact opposite. 838 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: Exactly. 839 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 2: Good to see you, mar Thank you very much. 840 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 1: Thank you. 841 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 2: If I knew where your house was, I had to 842 00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 2: hit a golf walk closer to it. 843 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: Yes, out, You're welcome. 844 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 2: I might have hit your house an accident. 845 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: No, I know how to buy a house. On the 846 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: golf course. It's not quite right on. 847 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 2: Okay, good deal, all right there he is, Marty Robe 848 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 2: diamond Rio. 849 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production