WEBVTT - SYSK Selects: The Star Wars Holiday Special of 1978

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, it's me Josh and it's that time of

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<v Speaker 1>year again. It's time for our annual Stuff You Should

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<v Speaker 1>Know selects release of How these Star Wars Christmas Special Worked. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that by now this is a tried and

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<v Speaker 1>true American night world tradition, Uh, prior to Christmas, that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone will stop and bask in the glory of the

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars Christmas Special. Technically our episode on the Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars Christmas Special. I hope you enjoy it and happy holidays.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of I

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Josh Clark with Charles W. Chuckers Bryant and Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>Jerome Roland. Uh. Who's the Wookie mother? Yeah, Mala, that

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<v Speaker 1>was the Wookie wife. Oh and mother? Yeah sure. Chewbacca's

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<v Speaker 1>momb is not with them any longer. She left. She

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<v Speaker 1>was not about to appear in that she went out

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<v Speaker 1>the window. I'm excited about this. I have to say

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<v Speaker 1>we should say Happy Star Wars Day. Yeah. Today is

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<v Speaker 1>um December. Um, I have my opening night tickets? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you really sure? Wow? You know I you into it? Oh? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well I will definitely go see it in the theater,

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<v Speaker 1>but um, why won't be the opening night? Sure, I've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten really adept at like ignoring spoilers, people talking about

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<v Speaker 1>stuff all like, so I can I could conceivably see

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<v Speaker 1>this movie a month after it comes out and still

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<v Speaker 1>going fresh. I'm an ostrich. Yeah you black yourself out,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you go dark I do. I make myself go

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep face, you go to the dark side. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been there a while now. Uh well, Happy Star Wars

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<v Speaker 1>Day though, I'm sure that I think this pairs nicely

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<v Speaker 1>with Christmas Star Wars Day. It's all come together. Yes, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we already missed Life Day though, so happy belated Life Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they celebrating it this year? Novemb Yeah, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>every three years. Mm hmm our cane man job. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's every three years started in nineteen seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do the math, shall we? Mm hmmm, quick math break.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that two thousand fourteen was the last Life Day.

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<v Speaker 1>May we just missed and then again in twenty seventeen. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so seventeen we'll celebrate Life Day. We'll put on our

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<v Speaker 1>red robes, are ultralong, straight, ironed wigs, and we'll celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>Life Day the way it was meant to. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you have no idea what we're talking about, we

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about Life Day, which is a celebration, uh

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<v Speaker 1>that Wookie in the Star Wars universe have every three years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like their Christmas. Yeah, their tent Supposedly, it's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like Earth. They two. They celebrate the diversity of

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<v Speaker 1>their ecosystem and also remembrance of the dead, and they

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<v Speaker 1>also give gifts there like the Finns. Basically, Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a very interesting part of the Star Wars canon.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, and it's almost entirely made up, dashed off

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<v Speaker 1>you could possibly say, by um George Lucas in the seventies. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's the basis of what is become derided as

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the worst things that ever happened to

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<v Speaker 1>the Star Wars galaxy. Well, not only that, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the worst things ever aired on television. Yeah, this galaxy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>at first, that sounds like hyperbole, like, come on, it's

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<v Speaker 1>because it was Star Wars. We had high expectations. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's really that bad. Yeah. The people who say that

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen even a second of it. Yeah. Yeah, However,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it uh when I was a kid. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>then again this week, and you watched it twice this week. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it last night and this morning. There's something

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<v Speaker 1>about it. It's mesmerizing, it really is. It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things that you start watching it and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to turn it off, but you want to see just

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<v Speaker 1>how absurd it can get. Almost Yeah, and it starts absurd,

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<v Speaker 1>it stays absurd in the middle, it's increasingly more absurd,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little less absurd, finishes super absurd. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a train wreck in every single sense of the word.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to bottom. It's extraordinarily difficult to overstate how bad

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<v Speaker 1>this is. And some people you know, in researching this,

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<v Speaker 1>you read about it, you read descriptions of these things,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just can't possibly be gotten across until you

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<v Speaker 1>see it. So luckily, as we will see, you can

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<v Speaker 1>go onto YouTube and watch it, and you may even

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy this episode more if you pause, go spend two

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<v Speaker 1>hours watching this thing, and then come back and laugh

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<v Speaker 1>along with us. Yeah, there's a great Over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>there have been many segments of it on YouTube from

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<v Speaker 1>badly dub VHS tapes, but there's one really pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>version of it in full UM brought to you by

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<v Speaker 1>w h I O Dayton, Ohio, Channel seven. Because that

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<v Speaker 1>flashes up on the screen periodically. Man, it is high quality,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks good, and it has to basically be the

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<v Speaker 1>copy that the actual UM affiliate broadcast. It's like that,

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<v Speaker 1>that quality compared to the other stuff floating around on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>clearly recorded on a pc R, which we're really expensive,

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<v Speaker 1>very expensive. I did some calculating on west Egg, okay UM,

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<v Speaker 1>so the average VCR went for about a thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>There were brand new it's amazing thousand dollars in nine money,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're about thirty eight hundred dollars in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen money. Luckily, there were some rich people out there

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<v Speaker 1>recording this stuff, and the wealthy have saved us all

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<v Speaker 1>again yet again, as they always do. UH need to

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<v Speaker 1>shout out some articles that we use for this. There's

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<v Speaker 1>great a great article in Vanity Fair called the Han

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<v Speaker 1>Solo Comedy Our exclamation Point by Frank D. Jacomo. And

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<v Speaker 1>then there's the Star Wars Holiday Special was the worst

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<v Speaker 1>thing on television ever by someone we kind of know,

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Pasternak. Uh from Motherboard, yeah, which is uh not wired,

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<v Speaker 1>it's uh vice. We wrote a little bit for Motherboard

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<v Speaker 1>back then and we had a call with that, like

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<v Speaker 1>we're like old motherboard vets. Yeah, basically when there one more,

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<v Speaker 1>there was another one and I don't know who wrote

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<v Speaker 1>this one chuck. Uh, yeah, it's the titles the Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars Holiday Special. George Lucas wants to smash every copy

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<v Speaker 1>of with a sledgehammer, which was a famous quote, uh

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly at a convention by Lucas, Yes, which is not correct.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't ever say that. No, okay, that that sounded

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<v Speaker 1>like something that people made up. Yes, but if you

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<v Speaker 1>go on the internet you will quickly believe that he did.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently didn't. So I'm sure he felt that way though, clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>because he did appear on Robot Chicken and I think

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand five on the Therapist Couch talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>much he hated the Space Show. Alright, so let's set

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<v Speaker 1>the background, shall we shall we go back to summer

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<v Speaker 1>getting the old way back machine. All right, let's do

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<v Speaker 1>it all right, here we are there's Waterson. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just a little six year old excited about Star Wars.

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<v Speaker 1>I am I've just turned one. Yes, you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what's up yet. I please forgive me if I urinate myself,

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<v Speaker 1>no problem, Okay. Uh So what has happened is Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars has become a huge, huge hit, seemingly out of nowhere,

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<v Speaker 1>establishing George Lucas is one of the brilliant young minds

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<v Speaker 1>and filmmaking. Even though it was in his first movie,

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<v Speaker 1>it was his first huge, huge breakout hit. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, talk I mean talk about a breakout hit

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<v Speaker 1>like no one had ever seen anything like it before

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand one had come out in the late sixties.

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<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't it's still it still isn't accessible to

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<v Speaker 1>all audiences. You know, it's kind of cerebral film. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not an adventure movie. This was this is like

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<v Speaker 1>basically swashbuckling on the screen, but you know, in a

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<v Speaker 1>galaxy far far away. Star Wars just changed everything and

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<v Speaker 1>it came on just like a hammer um and a

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<v Speaker 1>new hope. By the way, Yes, and then then we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get stuff wrong, nerds, So yes, just go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and get your little fingers ready to email us, like

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<v Speaker 1>if it wasn't driven home that I'm not a nerd.

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<v Speaker 1>By the fact that I don't have opening night tickets

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<v Speaker 1>or any tickets yet, give me a break, and by

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<v Speaker 1>proxy chuck to okay, thank you. So um, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to stay how great Star Wars was in everyone's mind, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Murray came out with that lounge singer Star Wars thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was everywhere and if you if you just listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the lyrics of it, it's really it's just Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Murray singing about how much Star Wars is awesome. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So by the fall allowing year, um, George Lucas was

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to figure out a way to keep audiences

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<v Speaker 1>just engaged with the whole Star Wars franchise that he

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<v Speaker 1>was just starting to build. But he knew the Empire

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<v Speaker 1>Strikes Back was a couple more years out, so um

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<v Speaker 1>he I think he was approached by some TV executives

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<v Speaker 1>who said, have you considered doing some sort of TV special?

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<v Speaker 1>They're all the rage right now. We have a we

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<v Speaker 1>have a graphic that's really awesome that we set aside

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<v Speaker 1>just for TV specials here at CBS. Why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>let us let's get together and do a Star Wars special.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Producers Gary Smith and Dwight him on, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're working over at CBS, and they said, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a great way to keep the spirit alive while you're

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<v Speaker 1>making your other movie. Maybe move some more toys. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which George Lucas got to. So it was right before Thanksgiving,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, there'll be a lot of people watching

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<v Speaker 1>TV um pre holiday season or I guess in the

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<v Speaker 1>holiday season. Well, the weekend before Thanksgiving, it's like everybody's shopping,

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<v Speaker 1>sitting around family like waiting to actually do stuff. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>perfect time to broadcast something on TV. So Lucas says,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's do this. I don't have a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of time, but how about this. I'll get I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>a story together and then you can go hire a

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<v Speaker 1>whiz bang team of veteran writers and producers and directors

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<v Speaker 1>whatever genre you think is appropriate. And those are the

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<v Speaker 1>words that will haunt you, George Lucas to his grave. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So Lucas said, here's my idea. I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>based um on Wookiees, and I wanted to take place

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<v Speaker 1>on their home planet of Kizuok or wookie planet. See

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<v Speaker 1>is that how you say kazuk. That's how it's pronounced

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<v Speaker 1>in the episode the Holiday Special. But it's also pronounced

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<v Speaker 1>different ways. Other times, I would have pronounced that cashy

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<v Speaker 1>E got spell it k a s h y y

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<v Speaker 1>y k, which I mean, I guess that's sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>Chewbuck's planet sure also called G five Wookie planet see

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<v Speaker 1>or Eaton is a mid rim planet. Right. So the

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<v Speaker 1>whole reason apparently that George Lucas was interested in featuring

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<v Speaker 1>the Wookies was it is what we in show business

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<v Speaker 1>call low hanging fruit. The reason why it was low

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<v Speaker 1>hanging fruit was because they had just established the different

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<v Speaker 1>scenes that would make the cut for Empire Strikes Back

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, what how did you pronounce it? Again? Kazook

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<v Speaker 1>Kazook had not made the cut. Uh. Even prior to this,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently for a new hope, George Lucas had whipped up

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<v Speaker 1>a forty page what's known as the Wookie Bible. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a forty page supplement that's all about Kazook and

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<v Speaker 1>Wookies and Chewbacca and his family and everything about Wookie Doom. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So he's like, I've got this thing already, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>established I love Wookies. Um, they didn't make the cut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little sad about that. They're not gonna kazuok

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<v Speaker 1>is not going to show up in an Empire strike back.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's build the entire special around wookies. It's basically

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<v Speaker 1>the one demand me, George Lucas hash That's it. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be totally hands off from this point on which he

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<v Speaker 1>kind of was. He totally wasn't. It was actually this

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<v Speaker 1>experience that apparently taught him to be the very hands

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<v Speaker 1>on a person that he is famous for being. It

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<v Speaker 1>came out of this Christmas special. Absolutely he was burned,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, you had an iron grip after that on everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's some some of the folks behind it. Bruce Valanche,

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<v Speaker 1>famous TV writer. You probably seen him on Hollywood Squares.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't he suspected of being Thomas pinch On for a while?

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, or was Thomas pinch On on

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood Squares? I have no idea. I maybe confabulating some

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<v Speaker 1>stuff confounding. Yeah, there's some kind of some sort going on.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like it. So Valanche was hired as a writer.

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<v Speaker 1>A guy named Lenny Rips was hired as a writer

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<v Speaker 1>who has some great quotes in that Vanity Fair article

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<v Speaker 1>he does. His first quote was, we were really excited

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<v Speaker 1>because this is Star Wars. How could it lose famous?

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<v Speaker 1>Last words? Who else was hired? There was a husband

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<v Speaker 1>and wife team, the welch Is, who are the parents

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<v Speaker 1>of of folk singer Gillian Welch. I'm a big fan

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<v Speaker 1>of and I had no idea that her parents they

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<v Speaker 1>were producers slash songwriters of the day. They were big

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<v Speaker 1>on the variety show scene, which would turn out to

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<v Speaker 1>be a really key cog in this whole experience. So

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, right about here, Jerry should insert a

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<v Speaker 1>needle coming off of our records on effect. Okay, thanks Jerry,

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<v Speaker 1>So Chuck, you just said singer songwriters. Yeah, what would

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<v Speaker 1>that have to do with Star Wars. Yeah? Well, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>in this Star Wars Holiday special, for those of you

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't seen it, there are musical numbers. They decided from

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<v Speaker 1>the outset that there should be musical numbers. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason that they decided that there should be musical numbers

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<v Speaker 1>is because the people who sold George Lucas and at

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<v Speaker 1>the time it was started, the Star Wars Corporation was

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<v Speaker 1>what it was called um On. The idea of doing

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<v Speaker 1>this TV special was that everyone would love a variety

0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:15.440
<v Speaker 1>show the seventies. Great idea, let's do a variety show.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem was this, Apparently George Lucas didn't watch enough

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<v Speaker 1>TV and he also overly trusted people who talked to

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<v Speaker 1>him because by yes, variety shows had dominated television for

0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.880
<v Speaker 1>over ten years, but it had come to an end.

0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:35.680
<v Speaker 1>It was getting stale. Yeah, we're talking to Carol Burnett show.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite had just been canceled after eleven seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Sonny and Chair had just had its last season. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean what else like he Hall was he? I

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<v Speaker 1>was still going on probably think still on solid golden

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<v Speaker 1>yet to come on and take up the mantel that

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<v Speaker 1>that would a variety show. Oh, it was a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit and there was talking in between the songs. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>the Mandrell's Sister's show. I never watched that one. Well

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<v Speaker 1>that's with that country chic thing that happened. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a big deal in the it's kind of happening again.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, Oh because of that dude, the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>won all the c m A Awards. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like he's he came along, he's like actually country.

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<v Speaker 1>His dad's like a coal miner for real from Kentucky.

0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I think I know he means Chris was something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's come along and been like, what are you

0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.560
<v Speaker 1>guys doing? Well, there's a revival in like good country

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<v Speaker 1>music again, that's great, like in the tradition of Merle

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<v Speaker 1>Haggard and and I guess that's probably where the country

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<v Speaker 1>she came from because there was actually good country going on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny cash out a variety show, did he really? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I knew they did, like a Sunday singing thing like

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<v Speaker 1>out in Virginia. Yeah, he had his own variety show.

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<v Speaker 1>Was actually pretty good. There's some like really great performances.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know how many nerds are like, get back

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<v Speaker 1>to Star Wars? I know, I'm so sorry. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So the Variety Show is is dying sort of, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they figured what a great time to take the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest movie property on the planet and wedge it into

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<v Speaker 1>the variety show milieu. I don't know if wedge is

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<v Speaker 1>the right word. I think maybe uh, nestle it in

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<v Speaker 1>there and then start hitting it with the blunt edge

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<v Speaker 1>of an axe until it mashes into that crevice, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is the time when fantasy Island had just started.

0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Um Mork and Mindy was about to change things. Charlie's

0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Angels was getting huge. It basically television as we knew

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<v Speaker 1>it from two whenever the real world came along. Just

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<v Speaker 1>escape as television is what they called it was was

0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:40.720
<v Speaker 1>starting and it was the hip new thing. So basically,

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<v Speaker 1>if they had turned Han Solo and Princess Leiah and

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<v Speaker 1>Luke Skywalker into maybe you know, sexy detectives, it might

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<v Speaker 1>have gone over even better. But they went the other way.

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<v Speaker 1>They decided to latch onto this extraordinarily stale um genre

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<v Speaker 1>of television and they hired the best in the business,

0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:01.400
<v Speaker 1>like they was there was. There was a quote from

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<v Speaker 1>I think Lenny RiPPs who was saying, like we had

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<v Speaker 1>literally a dream team, a variety show dream team, and

0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:12.040
<v Speaker 1>everybody was good. But there were probably no bad welders

0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.000
<v Speaker 1>on the Titanic. He there. That's a great quote. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy they hired to direct it initially was a

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<v Speaker 1>dude named David A. Coomba, and he had made his

0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:22.879
<v Speaker 1>name for Welcome to the Fillmore East. It was a

0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:26.919
<v Speaker 1>concert documentary with Van Morrison Van Morrison and the Birds

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<v Speaker 1>in ninety one, and he actually was at usc Film

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<v Speaker 1>School at the same time as Lucas, even though they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know each other. And um, he only ended up

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<v Speaker 1>directing about three segments of the thing before he quit.

0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Yet before he walked off, some say he was actually

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<v Speaker 1>let go, but we'll get to him in a minute

0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:47.320
<v Speaker 1>and who replaced him. As as we get along down

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<v Speaker 1>this uh gross road, well let's let's take a little

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<v Speaker 1>break because I'm I'm overly excited. Okay, alright, so we've

0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:17.159
<v Speaker 1>established most of the main players. Well, we'll get to

0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:20.680
<v Speaker 1>a few more. We should point out that um, Mark

0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:25.600
<v Speaker 1>hamill And and Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher, Peter Mayhew,

0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:30.600
<v Speaker 1>they had no grounds to refuse to be on this basically, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much. They were not huge, huge stars, yet they

0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:35.600
<v Speaker 1>could throw their weight around and say this is terrible

0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:37.639
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not doing it. They were, They were big

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<v Speaker 1>overnight because of Star Wars, for sure, but they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>to the adoring public back at the studio. They could

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<v Speaker 1>still be bossed around. And this is the result of it.

0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.480
<v Speaker 1>And you can tell also, um, just from watching the

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<v Speaker 1>actual special, like Harrison Ford is not happy to be

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<v Speaker 1>there at any point. Um. Princess Leiah is clear really

0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:03.600
<v Speaker 1>on drugs? Uh? Was she on drugs at this point?

0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:07.840
<v Speaker 1>She If you watch it, she's she's on drugs. Especially

0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:11.600
<v Speaker 1>the ending scene. Mark Campbell, it looks like he's happy

0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:14.080
<v Speaker 1>to be there. Actually he was fine, but apparently he

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<v Speaker 1>said no, I'm I'm not doing a musical number. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you watch his part, wedging a musical number in

0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:23.920
<v Speaker 1>there would have been even more painful. Um. But they

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<v Speaker 1>everybody who was part of the actual Star Wars franchise

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't wearing like a full body costume was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I really wish I wasn't here, And you can tell,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah. In fact, in the opening uh credit sequence,

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<v Speaker 1>they're showing the picture that you know, the faces of

0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:43.720
<v Speaker 1>the people, and you see Harrison Ford as if he's

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<v Speaker 1>flying the Millennium Falcon, and you can you can just

0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:48.360
<v Speaker 1>hear the guy off screen going now look at the

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<v Speaker 1>camera and just give a nod. Just look at the

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<v Speaker 1>camera and give a nod. And he finally you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell he's piste off and he looks up at the

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<v Speaker 1>camera and just sort of smirks yeah and points at

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<v Speaker 1>the camera like okay, I'm looking at the camera, and

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<v Speaker 1>then goes back to what he's doing. Yeah, it's pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt bad for him so early on Valanche and

0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:07.480
<v Speaker 1>others did you did you feel bad for him? Though? Really?

0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, come on, it's Harrison Ford's Hans Solo.

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<v Speaker 1>He has to go do this for like five days. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt terrible for him. I think it's hilarious that

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<v Speaker 1>they had to do this, especially now. Well, early on,

0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:23.159
<v Speaker 1>Valanche and others knew that they may be in trouble

0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:27.800
<v Speaker 1>because they decided not to subtitle any of the Wookie dialogue,

0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:31.160
<v Speaker 1>and they literally started after a brief opening scene setting

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<v Speaker 1>it up here. Here's the basic plot is, Han Solo

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to get Chewbacca back to Kazook in time

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<v Speaker 1>for Life Day so we can celebrate with his family.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the basis of the entire two the basis the

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<v Speaker 1>entire two hours. They encounter a space battle and they're delayed,

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<v Speaker 1>and the next two hours are kind of what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on while the delay is happening back on kaz Back

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<v Speaker 1>on Kazook, because you hear, like, okay, well, Han Solo

0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:02.399
<v Speaker 1>and Chewbacca eating the Imperial Guard and all that stuff

0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:05.399
<v Speaker 1>for two hours. I would watch that. I would too.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what they show killing time at the Wookie household.

0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:12.920
<v Speaker 1>That is what they show. That's what they do. It's

0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:16.800
<v Speaker 1>people hanging out waiting for Chewbacca, worrying about him, and

0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:20.720
<v Speaker 1>then killing time while they wait for him to come back. Literally,

0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:23.160
<v Speaker 1>so um and so hold on. So you say there's

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<v Speaker 1>a setup, right, Yeah, that's the initial setup and then chuck.

0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:33.000
<v Speaker 1>That's followed by this. Yeah, it's followed by literally ten minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>ten solid minutes of incomprehensible Wookie speak. So let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>join it for a second, shall we. Let's all enjoy it.

0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:30.200
<v Speaker 1>And again, you said ten minutes, and you're not exaggerating,

0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:33.240
<v Speaker 1>you're not being hyperbolic. You can time it. That's it's

0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:37.879
<v Speaker 1>ten minutes of Wookie's talking to each other with no subtitles. Fortunately,

0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't follow it at first, Like I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>know who it was. I thought it was might have

0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:48.280
<v Speaker 1>been Chewbacca's mom and dada. That's a little brother. And

0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't find out until later when Mark Campbell shows

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<v Speaker 1>up via skype call and says, he really explains everything

0:22:55.880 --> 0:23:02.520
<v Speaker 1>that had just happened, Like you're Chewbacca's father, your Chewbacca's son. Uh, Lumpy,

0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Lumpy and you're Chewbacca's wife. Oh, Malaya, thank you. So

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<v Speaker 1>before everybody starts like freaking out, we know that that's

0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:15.159
<v Speaker 1>actually their nicknames. Their real names are. His father is

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 1>a Ti chick cook, a Ti chick cook, it's really

0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 1>hard to pronounce. Mulatto Buck is his wife, and his

0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:27.480
<v Speaker 1>son is Lumpo or rump but as named by Lucas.

0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:30.480
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but Lucas also named him Lumpy Itchy and

0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Mala so um. They're all back there wringing their hands,

0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:38.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out ways to pass the time until

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<v Speaker 1>they get word from Chewbacca that he's made it to

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 1>uh what is it ketchuck, kazook kazook um, just like ketchup,

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:52.680
<v Speaker 1>ketchup or cats up if you're fancy um. But Chewbacca

0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:57.120
<v Speaker 1>is having trouble getting back to Katchuk because there's kazook,

0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:01.840
<v Speaker 1>because there's a block had by the Empire and they're

0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:04.879
<v Speaker 1>looking for rebels, specifically Chewbacca. Who I didn't realize this.

0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:08.000
<v Speaker 1>He's the most famous Wookie of all did you know that? Yeah,

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:10.440
<v Speaker 1>of course I didn't know that. Well, I mean he's

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:13.280
<v Speaker 1>the only one that really appears in the movies. I mean,

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:17.960
<v Speaker 1>we're seeing like, you know, these people's view of the universe.

0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:21.639
<v Speaker 1>What about back on book. Yeah, he might have just

0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:24.119
<v Speaker 1>been a fly by night wookie, right, yeah, but not

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:27.399
<v Speaker 1>the case, very famous wookie. Yeah, and he really loved it,

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:31.360
<v Speaker 1>like soak in his fame. Alright, So he realizes there's

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:33.879
<v Speaker 1>a problem. Valanche. He goes to Lucas and it's like,

0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:37.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, this is your world, but it

0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:40.920
<v Speaker 1>may not be the strongest thing to do to set

0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:44.480
<v Speaker 1>this in wookie Land and have all this incomprehensible dialogue.

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 1>And he says he was met with a glacial stair. Uh. Well,

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 1>he put it a little differently than that. Well, he

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:54.399
<v Speaker 1>said glacial stair. He did. The glacial stair that he

0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:58.399
<v Speaker 1>got was for this quote. He said, these people just

0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 1>talking what sounds like fat people having an orgasm. He goes,

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:03.800
<v Speaker 1>if you want, you can set up a tape recorder

0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 1>in my bedroom and I'll do all of the follying

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:08.359
<v Speaker 1>for it. Yeah. He's a large guy, he is, so

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:11.920
<v Speaker 1>uh that's what got the glacial stare. But Valanche later

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>said that from this, there was one development meeting that

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Lucas attended, and it was here's the Wookie Bible tell

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 1>me what you got, and Valanche said he and the

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:25.080
<v Speaker 1>other writers and producers and director were just kind of

0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 1>throwing ideas, and George Lucas would either say like, no,

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't work, give him a glacial stare, or say, yes,

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:36.040
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly it. Yes, let's make this a variety show. Yeah.

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:38.880
<v Speaker 1>And there was a little bit of um background there.

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:42.880
<v Speaker 1>The cantina players in the band had appeared on other

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:46.480
<v Speaker 1>variety shows at that point, and I think it went

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:49.200
<v Speaker 1>over a fairly well, just as a short segment on

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 1>like the Richard Pryor Variety Show or Donnie Marie um Man.

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 1>There were a lot of variety shows. But that's what

0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. It was that was television. That's what you did,

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 1>like the break these um the The show had its

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 1>course and then it became a variety show. It was

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 1>just everybody love variety shows. By this time, though, everybody

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>was sick of variety shows and so it really was

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:17.120
<v Speaker 1>a terrible choice. In fact, they even hired a couple

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 1>of writers from Shields and Yarnell, which I hadn't heard

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 1>of it. Oh yeah, I watched it. It was creepy,

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 1>this mind couple who had their own variety show, and

0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:32.360
<v Speaker 1>they figured these two will be great because they are

0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:35.119
<v Speaker 1>used to working without words, right, So, and so there

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:37.200
<v Speaker 1>is a certain logic to the variety show. It's not

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 1>that's just that variety shows were popular at the time.

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Somebody was like, well, Wookie's you don't understand what they're saying.

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:47.480
<v Speaker 1>So this is all going to be very physical. So

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 1>these people who who did what is it Shields and Yard, Now, yeah,

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.639
<v Speaker 1>that that's a perfect choice. That that makes complete sense.

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:58.200
<v Speaker 1>You can see this whole, this whole process of leading

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:01.040
<v Speaker 1>up to the point where it was produced in and everything, Yeah,

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>a series of like, oh we have this problem, well

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 1>here's a fix. Yeah, but that leads to another problem.

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Well we'll fix it with this, and and no one

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 1>stepping back and being like, all we've done is create

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>a series of problems that are going to come together

0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:18.920
<v Speaker 1>and make one extraordinarily large problem that will become legendary.

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:21.679
<v Speaker 1>No one did that, and so the whole thing was

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:26.200
<v Speaker 1>was made. That's right, And that eventually airs on November

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:31.440
<v Speaker 1>seventy eight, a Friday, at eight pm Eastern time. That's right.

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 1>And according to Nielsen ratings, it um attracted thirteen million

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 1>viewers just the second hour just in the US. It

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 1>aired in six or seven countries total. Yeah, but no

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:45.639
<v Speaker 1>one cares about that, I guess not because none of

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>those around the internet, you know. Uh. It finished second

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 1>to the Love Boat in the second I'm sorry from

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>eight to nine, and in the next hour actually finished

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>behind part two of a mini series about Pearl Harbor

0:27:57.000 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 1>starring Angie Dickinson. So it didn't even win their respective

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:04.399
<v Speaker 1>hours thirty million. That's that's not bad. The thing is,

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 1>apparently if you look at the Nielsen ratings graph for

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>the first hour, yeah we know about that graph, It's okay, yeah,

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 1>we do. And then after a very important part, which

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about soon. Um, it just drops off at

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:20.960
<v Speaker 1>the end of the first hour, and that actually probably

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>made the executives at CBS cringe for a number of reasons.

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:28.199
<v Speaker 1>Number one is this special was originally supposed to just

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 1>be an hour, but so many advertisers wanted to sign

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:36.120
<v Speaker 1>on that they extended it to two hours. And it

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>shines through you can totally tell that this thing was

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 1>never supposed to I think an hour might have been

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 1>stretching it. To tell you the truth, it's thirty minutes

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:49.719
<v Speaker 1>of content, forty if you're generous an hour and then

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>two hours, it becomes one of the worst things that

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>was ever put on television. All right, well let's take

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>a break and then we'll talk a little bit more

0:28:56.920 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 1>about the actual um uh. I don't want to call

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 1>it content, but it is content in the strictest definitions.

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Right after this, George, all right, so the show itself,

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>we've given you the main plot line, which again is

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 1>that Chewy is trying to get back to his home

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>planet to celebrate life Day with his family. Right, that's it,

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>And again we almost barely see Chewy. Yeah, the rest

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 1>is his family on because look waiting for him to

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 1>come back for a life Day. Yeah. So um. Some

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 1>of the various things they did, they were guest stars.

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>There was Harvey Corman from the Carol Burnett Show, one

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 1>of my all time favorites him or Carol Carol Burnett

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Show both. He's great. Yeah, he actually if you watch

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 1>what he's doing, you're like, this is comedy genius for sure.

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Apparently he too, was like the only one on set

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 1>that was bringing levity. He was joking around and kind

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 1>of kept spirits up. Good for him, that's what I say.

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>And he had three different three different parts. Yeah, he

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>played uh well, I don't even know the names. Actually

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 1>we could look him up, but he played a he

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 1>played a Julia child like cook. There's an actual cooking segment,

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>a long one, a very long cooking segment where Chewbacca's

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 1>wife Um makes Banta stew to kill some time, to

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>kill some time because waiting on her planet and in

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>our living room. Yeah, so Harvey Corman is in drag

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 1>is a foe armed Julia childlike uh TV chef And

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it's Gormanda. Is her name Gormanda? That makes

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 1>total sense. He also plays Um. There's this one weird

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.959
<v Speaker 1>bit where Chewbacca's son tries to figure out a way

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 1>to trick the stormtroopers that the Empire had come and

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of because the blockade raided the house and other properties.

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 1>So he tries to trick them by I think, rigging

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>a calm link to speak in a different voice. So

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>he has to watch the instruction manual. He watches an

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 1>instruction video which was Harvey Kitel as a robot. Oh,

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 1>it would have been wonderful, little big Harvey Kitel. Harvey Carvey,

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh many murder someone in the middle of the instruction

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Harvey Corman. And then the final role he had was

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 1>as a a bar patron in the cantina that drinks.

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 1>He has a hole in the top of his head

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 1>like a volcano, where he pours his drinks and that's

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 1>how he drinks. And he he loves be Arthur. Did

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:50.480
<v Speaker 1>we mention be Arthur was in it? B Arthur is

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>not only in it, Chuck. She sings a song. She does.

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>She is theodnotes to everyone she manages or maybe owns.

0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>The owner. Yeah, the what's the mos? What mos deaf cantina?

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Uh no, most deaf is a rapper? Oh yeah, I

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 1>think you mean Moss Eisley. Yes, yes, that cantina. She's

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 1>the owner. Be Arthur is the owner be author of

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 1>the Golden Girls, but in this case the Arthur of Maud, because,

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>as one of the people who wrote one of the

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 1>articles we based this on points out, she's just basically

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 1>playing Maud as the owner of the cantina. Yeah, and

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>her song comes because um, they basically say, there's a lockdown,

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>so you gotta call last call um at your bar.

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 1>So she calls last call by singing a song to everyone. Right,

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>and again, we can't possibly have the script lead anywhere

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 1>else but Chew Bacca's house while his family waits for it.

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 1>So all this takes place as part of a public

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 1>service announcement basically broadcast by the Empire about how immoral

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 1>life on tattooing is. So let's go see what's going

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 1>on in the mos Eisley Cantina as it's being shut

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 1>down for curfew. Alright, this is incomprehensible, but it goes on. Um,

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>so they're in it. There's also Art Carney. Yes, he's

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the Honeymooners family, the star of the whole thing. Really,

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 1>he has the most lines, I would say, the most

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>comprehensible line. Right. So he plays a trader, a human

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>trader um that is, uh recently been with Han Solo

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 1>and Chewy and actually gets to Kazook and says they're

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>on the way. It's all good. Yeah, a trade or

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 1>not trade tour. Yeah, traders in trades humans for you know, money. No,

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 1>he he sells goods. Yeah, a trader. He isn't trade humans. Yeah,

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>he's in the human trade. He No, he isn't. Really

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 1>he trades humans like he sells humans. Looked it up

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 1>in the Star Wars Encyclopedia said that he was in

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the human trade. So in this Christmas special, apparently they

0:33:56.480 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 1>sanitized his his background because he's basically just sell like

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 1>gadgets and novelties and stuff like that to the Wookies

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>and the Empire who were occupying the area. Yes, he

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>comes bearing gifts because he's a friend of Chewbacca's family. Yeah,

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 1>so he comes bearing gifts. One of the gifts he

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 1>gives is a UM sort of like a little digital

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 1>insert to a Oh, I guess you would call it

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 1>a virtual reality hair dryer hair dryer, like a beauty

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:30.799
<v Speaker 1>shop hair dryer. Right. He gives it to Grandpa Itchy.

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Grandpa Itchy UM sits under this hair dryer pops in

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:39.320
<v Speaker 1>this uh digital cassette, and it can only be described

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 1>as softcore porn. Apparently the writers who were interviewed for

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 1>this said that was totally the intent. They were trying

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.760
<v Speaker 1>to get what amounted to softcore porn that would pass

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the sensors. So it's all m You can't even say

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 1>it's innuendo. It's too obvious in overt for innuendo. Instead,

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 1>it's just it it's just it's just gross. It's really gross. Um.

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Diane Carroll, Yes she is. Um, a Vegas staple shows

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 1>up and starts basically tantalizing. Um. Grandpa Itchy, who again,

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 1>this is Chewbacca's elderly father who now engages in some

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:24.799
<v Speaker 1>sort of well he's he's watching virtual reality pornography now,

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 1>and this is a pretty lengthy segment in and of itself.

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, and she literally says to him, now, I

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 1>can see you're really excited. Yeah, it's pretty rough to watch. Yeah,

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 1>So then you've got another musical number because also again

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 1>he shutters, it's really strange, all right, So there's also ah,

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:47.879
<v Speaker 1>I know, it seems like we're jumping around, but it's

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 1>it's so flow not like this is pretty much like

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 1>blow for blow. Um. Actually I forgot earlier on in

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:57.760
<v Speaker 1>the in the special, um, there's one of my favorite

0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:02.719
<v Speaker 1>sequences is when Grandpa Itchy goes over to Lumpy and

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 1>basically sets up remember the the hologram chessboard that they

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 1>played in A New Hope, basically kind of sets that

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:11.759
<v Speaker 1>up and says, here, just play this. He pushes the

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 1>button which is clearly a nineteen seventies cassette recorder and

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 1>another uh, like it's like a Cirque de sol acid

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 1>trip um gymnast routine happens in front of the kid's eyes.

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 1>And again this all just it's not like it shows

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 1>a snippet. They showed the entire segments, like five, six,

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 1>ten minutes long of all of these things. So you

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 1>would think, Okay, they've gone to this hologram well a

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:43.439
<v Speaker 1>couple of times, why not go to it again? Well

0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 1>they do. They do to kill more time. While the

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Imperial Guard is ransacking their house. Um, Art Carney apparently,

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's trying to get one of the Imperial Guard,

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 1>the leader I think, or one of the leaders who

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 1>looks like somebody from Spaceballs by the way, very much so. Um.

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>And the writer of the Vanity Fair article, by the

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:07.400
<v Speaker 1>way said, um, this this is so incomprehensible. The specialist

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 1>George Lucas didn't even have the schwartz with him at

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:17.280
<v Speaker 1>the time. So anyway, our Carny's distracting this uh Imperial leader. Um,

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:22.240
<v Speaker 1>while they're ransacking the Wookie's house, Chewbacca's house with a hologram,

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 1>and this hologram instead of being an acrobat or Diane

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:27.879
<v Speaker 1>Carroll or any kind of porn or anything, like that

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 1>is Jefferson Starship and they decide that they're going to

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:37.280
<v Speaker 1>play Light the Sky on Fire, which apparently is about UFOs.

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:40.399
<v Speaker 1>It's a little music video. Basically, it's a pretty Yeah,

0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:43.439
<v Speaker 1>it's the predecessor to like video kill the Radio Storry

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:47.280
<v Speaker 1>you can tell um. And again it is the whole

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:52.320
<v Speaker 1>lengthy song, the whole thing. So every time that somebody's

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 1>like we need to escape mentally from what's going on

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 1>here in our house, let's go into the video world.

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:02.720
<v Speaker 1>It not just and they don't cut back and forth.

0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 1>It's okay, here's five minutes of Jefferson Starship performing this song.

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 1>And even the Jefferson Starship guys um were like, yeah,

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:13.959
<v Speaker 1>it's sort of a weird trip, like we didn't get it,

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>but we did it right. They gave us some money

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:22.319
<v Speaker 1>and some cocaine. Well probably, so we said, yeah, chuck.

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:25.759
<v Speaker 1>I think though, um, there yet another segment like this

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:29.880
<v Speaker 1>is actually widely regarded as the high point of the

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. So there is a cartoon actually yeah that

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Lump Lumpy watches. Yeah, Lumpy's like the Imperial Guard is

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 1>still ransacking my house. I think I'll entertain myself by

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 1>watching a cartoon on my little Um, I don't know what.

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess it was an iPad and uh, he watches

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:52.479
<v Speaker 1>this cartoon and it's it's actually remarkable for a number

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 1>of reasons. It's the best part of the whole special

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>generally agreed upon as such, not just us. And it

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:01.920
<v Speaker 1>introduces Boba Fett. It's the first time Boba Fett ever

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 1>makes an appearance in the Star Wars universe. Yeah, it's

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 1>actually not a bad And you can't find it in

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 1>the the one version I told you to watch. They

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:12.160
<v Speaker 1>removed it for copyright. But he didn't watch a separate version, right,

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 1>you can find it on its own. Yeah, and it's Um,

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 1>it's very much reminiscent of like the cartoon style of

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 1>the day, like a he Man or something even even

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:23.840
<v Speaker 1>it's even a little more artsy than that. Yeah. But

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 1>it does have a plot that you can follow that

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 1>makes sense as a Star Wars thing, and it introduces

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Boba Fette, like you said, And um, it's actually not bad.

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like Luke and R two and C three p O. Yeah,

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 1>and they're like they crash on a planet or something. Yeah,

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:39.320
<v Speaker 1>and Han and Jewry you're in it, and it's the

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:41.480
<v Speaker 1>first time we see in Darth Vader, it's the first

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 1>time we see Boba Fette and that he is, uh,

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:48.480
<v Speaker 1>that he is just doing whatever he can do for money.

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Like Luke trusts him at first, C three bos like

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you sure you should trust him this quick and he's like,

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:55.840
<v Speaker 1>oh three p o you and your non trusting ways.

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 1>And then it turns out he's selling them out to

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 1>the dark side. So it's it's basically Boba Fette is

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 1>an allegory for George Lucas himself. Um, so the cartoon

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:08.759
<v Speaker 1>comes and goes, and that was the thing that came

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:11.759
<v Speaker 1>at about the end of the first hour mark, and

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 1>after that everybody just turned off their television sets. Yeah,

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. Did you watch this when it came U? Yeah,

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I remember watching it, but I don't remember much about it,

0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:24.399
<v Speaker 1>like if I made it through it all. I mean

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:26.440
<v Speaker 1>it was I was seven and it was on until ten,

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:28.759
<v Speaker 1>so I probably didn't make it through it all. Um,

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:33.160
<v Speaker 1>you're probably disturbed. Who knows, I just remember that. I'll

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:34.840
<v Speaker 1>have to ask my brother. He might have a memory

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:37.719
<v Speaker 1>of this. Oh, Betty does I'm sure he met everybody

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>afterwards or something like that. You know, it has a picture.

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:42.399
<v Speaker 1>Well he was tin at that point. So cynicism had,

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, become a thing in his life probably by then,

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:49.280
<v Speaker 1>sure didn't that one? Cynicism kicks into n Hes Scott

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:52.800
<v Speaker 1>holding out the fourteen fift Yeah maybe so so um chuck,

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing finally does in. And actually there's a

0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 1>guy his name Nathan RayBan, he writes over at the

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:01.280
<v Speaker 1>A V Club. He had a great quote. He basically

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 1>said that one of the great redeeming values of this

0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:07.319
<v Speaker 1>um the special is that it does eventually end. Yeah,

0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what the first part of the quote is,

0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not convinced the special wasn't ultimately written and directed

0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 1>by a sentient bag of cocaine. And like, go read

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:19.479
<v Speaker 1>his his review of the Star Wars Holiday Special, because

0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:22.399
<v Speaker 1>he goes on to describe exactly what that must have been,

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>like the development meeting where the bag of cocaine is

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:28.440
<v Speaker 1>pacing back and forth talking about what should happen. That's

0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 1>what it feels like. But it doesn't and it ends

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:36.200
<v Speaker 1>even more. It takes this bizarre two hours and wraps

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:38.839
<v Speaker 1>it up in just a nice bizarre bow. Yeah, so

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 1>what happens is eventually Han Solo should we say spoiler alert. Eventually,

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Han Solo and Chewy make it to the planet. They

0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:49.560
<v Speaker 1>park on the far side of the planet because they

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:52.719
<v Speaker 1>know the uh the Imperial forces are there and the

0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 1>exercise will do Chewy good, so they have to hike

0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:58.399
<v Speaker 1>over there. They eventually make it back home. Uh they

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:02.920
<v Speaker 1>find a storm the stormtroopers at their house. Um, their

0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 1>tree hut. Yeah, which, by the paintings that set this up,

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we mentioned I don't even call him

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Matt paintings. It looks like someone painted something on the

0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>wall and they just like put a camera in front

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:19.560
<v Speaker 1>of it pretty much. Yeah. So they get back and um, Chewbacca,

0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Han Solo hides around the corner of Chewbacca steps in

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 1>front of his son to protect him. Han Solo jumps out,

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 1>and the stormtrooper trips over a pile of logs and

0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:34.400
<v Speaker 1>falls over the balcony and dies in a holiday special.

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 1>So they wouldn't even not only could he not shoot

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:41.279
<v Speaker 1>first with Grido, but they couldn't even have him like

0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 1>wrestle the storm trooper and throw him off. He trips

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:47.839
<v Speaker 1>over a log and Han Solo has his hands thrown

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 1>up like wasn't me It might as well have been

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:54.160
<v Speaker 1>a banana peel, you know. But again, uh, this is

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:59.000
<v Speaker 1>basically produced by vaudevillians starring vague villians. Why not have

0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:01.880
<v Speaker 1>the one death take ace from basically what amounts to

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:05.600
<v Speaker 1>somebody slipping on a banana feel it's a perfect way

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:08.840
<v Speaker 1>to end it. So that's uh that that guy basically

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.560
<v Speaker 1>represents the end of the imperial threat for the rest

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 1>of Life Day. And um, we we then see Life

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Day being celebrated, which is celebrated by lots of wookies

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:25.720
<v Speaker 1>assembling in what looks like a giant Olan Mills portrait. Um,

0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 1>and all of them are wearing red robes. And I

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 1>know I'm up talking, and it's because my mind is

0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 1>still having trouble like wrapping around this. And then um,

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Princess Leia comes out with C three P O is

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Mark Hamill there, the whole gang zerof Okay, the whole

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:46.799
<v Speaker 1>gang there, And then they all gather around to hear

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:50.840
<v Speaker 1>a great quote from Princess Leia, which we will read

0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:56.240
<v Speaker 1>um verbatim. This holiday is yours, but we all share

0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:58.720
<v Speaker 1>with you the hope that this day brings us closer

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:02.320
<v Speaker 1>to freedom, into harmony, and to peace, no matter how different,

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:05.040
<v Speaker 1>we appear we're all the same in our struggle against

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:07.520
<v Speaker 1>the powers of evil and darkness. I hope that this

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 1>day will always be a day of joy in which

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 1>we can reconfirm our dedication and our courage, and more

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 1>than anything else, our love for one another. This is

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the promise of the Tree of Life que song, right,

0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 1>And we should also point out the tree of Life

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:26.000
<v Speaker 1>has never been mentioned up to this point. A sudden

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:28.560
<v Speaker 1>appearance at the end. And when you said que song,

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 1>by que Song, you mean Princess Leiah starts singing. Yeah.

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 1>And apparently that was one of the big contingencies on

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Carrie Fisher being involved. She's going through a phase where

0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 1>she's like, I kind of like singing. Bruce Valanche calls

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:44.840
<v Speaker 1>it her Joni Mitchell period. Yeah, and she somehow convinced

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:48.320
<v Speaker 1>them to let her sing as Princess Leiah, and she does.

0:44:48.560 --> 0:44:52.040
<v Speaker 1>And again I've said that she looks like she's on drugs.

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 1>This is the point where she really does look like

0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:56.479
<v Speaker 1>she's on drugs. And it's not just me um other

0:44:56.600 --> 0:45:00.760
<v Speaker 1>writers who have written reviews of this. It's really obvious

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:05.240
<v Speaker 1>that she possibly smoked a decent amount of pot before

0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 1>she shot this. Shot this scene, but she sings, Oh, okay,

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:14.239
<v Speaker 1>it's fine. It's just the fact that um, Princess Leigh

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:16.959
<v Speaker 1>is singing. And actually, Bruce Valanche had a really great

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:20.440
<v Speaker 1>quote too. He says that, um, she very much wanted

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:22.640
<v Speaker 1>to show this side of her talent, and there was

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:25.520
<v Speaker 1>general dismay because this was not what we wanted Princess

0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Leia to be doing. She did it anyway. So the

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:32.120
<v Speaker 1>whole thing ends with her singing this song about life day,

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:39.399
<v Speaker 1>which is set loosely to the John Williams Star Wars theme. Uh.

0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:42.319
<v Speaker 1>So along the way, the director original director quit, A

0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:45.000
<v Speaker 1>new director, Steve Binder, was hired to finish the job

0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 1>and bring it in. Uh. And he did over the

0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:51.840
<v Speaker 1>original one million dollar budget, of course. Always Uh, he

0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 1>did bring it in and um at this point George

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Lucas had uh. He was he was working on Empire

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Strikes Back. He didn't know what was going on. He

0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:03.840
<v Speaker 1>wasn't around for the shoot. No, it wasn't until it aired.

0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that he actually saw it. Yes, and it

0:46:06.280 --> 0:46:09.960
<v Speaker 1>was a travesty obviously, if you haven't noticed that by now,

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Critics hated it. Star Wars fans really hated it. Everybody

0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 1>hate the people who were in it hated it. Lucas

0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:19.719
<v Speaker 1>hated it. Um, you've been Harvey Corman secretly hated it.

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Even Harvey Kitel hated Actually he loved it. But Lucas

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 1>has been asked over the years about it a lot,

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't talk about it much. But in two

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:31.960
<v Speaker 1>thousand five, and I don't buy this for a second,

0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:35.600
<v Speaker 1>he says, Um, it was an interview, he said special

0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:39.160
<v Speaker 1>from I really didn't have much to do with us.

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 1>You know that part is true. I can't remember what

0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 1>network it was even on, but it was a thing

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:46.400
<v Speaker 1>that they did. That's a lie. There's no way he

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:49.440
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know that was CBS. Uh. We kind of just

0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:52.000
<v Speaker 1>let them do it. I believe that it was done

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 1>by I can't even remember who the group was, but

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 1>they were variety TV guys. I'm sure he remembers a

0:46:57.000 --> 0:46:59.839
<v Speaker 1>few of them. We let them use the characters and stuff,

0:46:59.880 --> 0:47:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and probably wasn't the smartest thing to do, but you

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:05.719
<v Speaker 1>learned from those experiences. I think they even use some

0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:09.480
<v Speaker 1>of the footage from the movie. At the end, it

0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 1>looks like some of the space like a highlight reel.

0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:15.960
<v Speaker 1>The gang well, and during the um it looked like

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:18.279
<v Speaker 1>some of the they had some insert shots of like

0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Imperial cruisers and Thai fighters and stuff that. Remember when

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 1>when Chewbacca like leans back and puts his hands behind it,

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 1>that's in there. It's it's like a it's just a

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:31.399
<v Speaker 1>highlight reel from the movie saying like I feel like this,

0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:34.120
<v Speaker 1>go see the movie. Well, and also that means it

0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:36.319
<v Speaker 1>doesn't match the look of the rest of it at all. Yeah,

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 1>that's true. It's just sort of inserted. They tried, They

0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:42.440
<v Speaker 1>definitely tried, UM, And George Lucas is totally full of

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:46.080
<v Speaker 1>it because in seven he told star Log magazine that

0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:49.479
<v Speaker 1>the Christmas Special would be out on video cassette very soon,

0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and in two thousand seven, two years after that quote,

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:54.360
<v Speaker 1>you just read where he's like, I don't even know

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 1>what you're talking about. Basically, Um. He apparently considered releasing

0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:02.520
<v Speaker 1>the christ Special is a bonus on the UM the

0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:07.200
<v Speaker 1>DVDs of the first three right, but did not didn't

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:09.919
<v Speaker 1>And apparently Carrie Fisher told Lucas that if you want

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:14.160
<v Speaker 1>me to do UM DVD extras commentary commentary, then I

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:18.319
<v Speaker 1>want a clean, original copy of the Holiday Special, So

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 1>why go ahead? So I can play at parties when

0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I want people to leave. It's pretty great. It is

0:48:26.200 --> 0:48:29.040
<v Speaker 1>so uh and there is one of those clean copies

0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:31.319
<v Speaker 1>is floating around out there, so you can watch this

0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:34.920
<v Speaker 1>in it in its entirety. Some of it, like the cartoon,

0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:38.040
<v Speaker 1>was removed due to copyright infringement and that kind of stuff,

0:48:38.200 --> 0:48:41.040
<v Speaker 1>but as as the case with the rest of the Internet,

0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:43.400
<v Speaker 1>you can just go find it elsewhere and piece it together.

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:48.799
<v Speaker 1>There's also the original ads that aired in Baltimore that

0:48:48.840 --> 0:48:53.239
<v Speaker 1>are just fascinating. Those are always fun GM ads where

0:48:53.280 --> 0:48:56.280
<v Speaker 1>one of the guys who's in quality control is he says,

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:58.480
<v Speaker 1>did you watch it? I don't think I saw that.

0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:01.040
<v Speaker 1>He goes, um, we really care about these cars and

0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:04.680
<v Speaker 1>that's no job man, a GM man, and he's like

0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:08.600
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to be hip. Yeah. Um, it's a pretty

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:13.440
<v Speaker 1>good stuff. Here's my final thought on it. I love it.

0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:16.319
<v Speaker 1>It does not taint my Star Wars experience or my

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:19.479
<v Speaker 1>love for the franchise, and I'm glad it is out

0:49:19.480 --> 0:49:23.440
<v Speaker 1>there because it it's a it's a fun little stain

0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:29.000
<v Speaker 1>that shouldn't be taken too seriously. I think it adds

0:49:29.040 --> 0:49:32.719
<v Speaker 1>to it actually, because it's campy and awful and I

0:49:32.719 --> 0:49:36.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know somehow that enriches the rest of it. I'm

0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:38.600
<v Speaker 1>with you, you like it? Oh yeah, I mean I

0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:40.440
<v Speaker 1>watched it twice. I wouldn't watched it a second I

0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have made it through the first time. I let

0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:45.320
<v Speaker 1>me take that back, as I'm a pro, so I

0:49:45.320 --> 0:49:46.920
<v Speaker 1>would have made it through the first time. I wouldn't

0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:48.879
<v Speaker 1>have watched it a second time if I wasn't. There

0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:51.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't something about it, and I figured out. I think

0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:53.320
<v Speaker 1>the thing that I like the most about it is Lumpy,

0:49:53.680 --> 0:49:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Chewbacca's son, played by an actress named Patty Maloney, who

0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:02.399
<v Speaker 1>frankly is hands down the best actor in the entire thing.

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:07.080
<v Speaker 1>She like her responses and everything is just awesome. I

0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 1>think my favorite parts are, uh, well, there's a great

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Wilhelm scream trips over the law. Jerry would not have

0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:19.080
<v Speaker 1>noticed it. Uh And then there's a part where all

0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:21.759
<v Speaker 1>the wikie dialogue you can't understand, but there's clearly one

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:25.320
<v Speaker 1>part where we're Itchy and Lumpy. Are have any exchange

0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:30.439
<v Speaker 1>where Lumpy you can make it out goes I love you. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I noticed that, but it's covered up. But someone was like,

0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:35.680
<v Speaker 1>we have to have at least one exchange where you

0:50:35.719 --> 0:50:38.319
<v Speaker 1>sort of know what they're saying, or they were like,

0:50:38.360 --> 0:50:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I think she said I love you. Should we have

0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 1>them redo it? And the directors like, no, I want

0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:45.239
<v Speaker 1>to go and Chuck. There's one other thing that I

0:50:45.280 --> 0:50:49.000
<v Speaker 1>figured out from watching this. It's not readily apparent. The

0:50:49.120 --> 0:50:51.839
<v Speaker 1>whole thing is made all the more odd, and that

0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 1>there's situation after situation after situation where we, as normal audiences,

0:50:57.000 --> 0:51:00.040
<v Speaker 1>were trained to expect the laugh track, but there's not

0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:03.680
<v Speaker 1>a laugh track. Hadn't been a laugh track, it what

0:51:04.000 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 1>it might have been less bizarre, but the fact that

0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:11.960
<v Speaker 1>it's missing just makes your agitates the mind. So it's

0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:14.600
<v Speaker 1>this whole additional element that it is weird. I never

0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:16.880
<v Speaker 1>thought about that. There's just weird moments of silence all

0:51:16.880 --> 0:51:19.560
<v Speaker 1>throughout it. Ye, like when Art Carney's doing his thing, Yeah,

0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:23.680
<v Speaker 1>telling jokes, Yeah, okay, I agree with you, Chuck. Don't

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:25.960
<v Speaker 1>take things too seriously. I think that's the great lesson

0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:28.080
<v Speaker 1>in this. Yeah, and then it's the lesson of life.

0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:32.160
<v Speaker 1>It is. And in two thousand seven, Riff tracks The

0:51:32.280 --> 0:51:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Great Mystery Science Theater three thousand Guys Mike Nelson, Bill Corbett,

0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:40.080
<v Speaker 1>and Kevin Murphy uh provided audio commentary for the full

0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:43.319
<v Speaker 1>version of the special, So try and go grab that

0:51:43.360 --> 0:51:44.759
<v Speaker 1>if you can as well. So you can. It's on

0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:46.440
<v Speaker 1>the site because it's great. I think it's like eight

0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:49.040
<v Speaker 1>bucks and those guys are awesome and they are at

0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:53.520
<v Speaker 1>least I think Corbett listens to us. So, hey, Corbett,

0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:59.600
<v Speaker 1>you got anything else? No, No, I think we did this.

0:52:00.239 --> 0:52:02.640
<v Speaker 1>There's some good stuff. Go read the Vanity Fair article.

0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh Han Solo Comedy Hour. There's a book called How

0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Star Wars Conquered the Universe that has a very interesting

0:52:08.400 --> 0:52:10.600
<v Speaker 1>chapter about this. That's where we found it asserted that

0:52:10.680 --> 0:52:13.000
<v Speaker 1>George Lucas never said that he would smash this thing

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:16.280
<v Speaker 1>with a sledge hammer. Um. And there's also an entire

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<v Speaker 1>website dedicated to its Star Wars Holiday Special dot com. Yeah,

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