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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, it's me Josh and it's that time of

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Speaker 1: year again. It's time for our annual Stuff You Should

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Speaker 1: Know selects release of How these Star Wars Christmas Special Worked. Um.

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Speaker 1: I hope that by now this is a tried and

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Speaker 1: true American night world tradition, Uh, prior to Christmas, that

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Speaker 1: everyone will stop and bask in the glory of the

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Speaker 1: Star Wars Christmas Special. Technically our episode on the Star

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Speaker 1: Wars Christmas Special. I hope you enjoy it and happy holidays.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark with Charles W. Chuckers Bryant and Jerry

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Speaker 1: Jerome Roland. Uh. Who's the Wookie mother? Yeah, Mala, that

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Speaker 1: was the Wookie wife. Oh and mother? Yeah sure. Chewbacca's

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Speaker 1: momb is not with them any longer. She left. She

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Speaker 1: was not about to appear in that she went out

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Speaker 1: the window. I'm excited about this. I have to say

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Speaker 1: we should say Happy Star Wars Day. Yeah. Today is

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Speaker 1: um December. Um, I have my opening night tickets? Do

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Speaker 1: you really sure? Wow? You know I you into it? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but um, why won't be the opening night? Sure, I've

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Speaker 1: gotten really adept at like ignoring spoilers, people talking about

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Speaker 1: been there a while now. Uh well, Happy Star Wars

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Speaker 1: with Christmas Star Wars Day. It's all come together. Yes, Um,

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Speaker 1: we already missed Life Day though, so happy belated Life Day.

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Speaker 1: Are they celebrating it this year? Novemb Yeah, but it's

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Speaker 1: every three years. Mm hmm our cane man job. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so it's every three years started in nineteen seventy eight.

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Speaker 1: I believe that two thousand fourteen was the last Life Day.

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Speaker 1: May we just missed and then again in twenty seventeen. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so seventeen we'll celebrate Life Day. We'll put on our

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Speaker 1: Life Day the way it was meant to. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: that Wookie in the Star Wars universe have every three years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So by the fall allowing year, um, George Lucas was

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Speaker 1: And there was a little bit of um background there.

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00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 1: The cantina players in the band had appeared on other

421
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: variety shows at that point, and I think it went

422
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: over a fairly well, just as a short segment on

423
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: like the Richard Pryor Variety Show or Donnie Marie um Man.

424
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: There were a lot of variety shows. But that's what

425
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It was that was television. That's what you did,

426
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: like the break these um the The show had its

427
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: course and then it became a variety show. It was

428
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: just everybody love variety shows. By this time, though, everybody

429
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: was sick of variety shows and so it really was

430
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: a terrible choice. In fact, they even hired a couple

431
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: of writers from Shields and Yarnell, which I hadn't heard

432
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: of it. Oh yeah, I watched it. It was creepy,

433
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 1: this mind couple who had their own variety show, and

434
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 1: they figured these two will be great because they are

435
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: used to working without words, right, So, and so there

436
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: is a certain logic to the variety show. It's not

437
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: that's just that variety shows were popular at the time.

438
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: Somebody was like, well, Wookie's you don't understand what they're saying.

439
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: So this is all going to be very physical. So

440
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: these people who who did what is it Shields and Yard, Now, yeah,

441
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: that that's a perfect choice. That that makes complete sense.

442
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: You can see this whole, this whole process of leading

443
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: up to the point where it was produced in and everything, Yeah,

444
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: a series of like, oh we have this problem, well

445
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: here's a fix. Yeah, but that leads to another problem.

446
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: Well we'll fix it with this, and and no one

447
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: stepping back and being like, all we've done is create

448
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: a series of problems that are going to come together

449
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: and make one extraordinarily large problem that will become legendary.

450
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 1: No one did that, and so the whole thing was

451
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: was made. That's right, And that eventually airs on November

452
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: seventy eight, a Friday, at eight pm Eastern time. That's right.

453
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: And according to Nielsen ratings, it um attracted thirteen million

454
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: viewers just the second hour just in the US. It

455
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: aired in six or seven countries total. Yeah, but no

456
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: one cares about that, I guess not because none of

457
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: those around the internet, you know. Uh. It finished second

458
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: to the Love Boat in the second I'm sorry from

459
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: eight to nine, and in the next hour actually finished

460
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: behind part two of a mini series about Pearl Harbor

461
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: starring Angie Dickinson. So it didn't even win their respective

462
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: hours thirty million. That's that's not bad. The thing is,

463
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: apparently if you look at the Nielsen ratings graph for

464
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: the first hour, yeah we know about that graph, It's okay, yeah,

465
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: we do. And then after a very important part, which

466
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: we'll talk about soon. Um, it just drops off at

467
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: the end of the first hour, and that actually probably

468
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: made the executives at CBS cringe for a number of reasons.

469
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: Number one is this special was originally supposed to just

470
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: be an hour, but so many advertisers wanted to sign

471
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: on that they extended it to two hours. And it

472
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: shines through you can totally tell that this thing was

473
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: never supposed to I think an hour might have been

474
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: stretching it. To tell you the truth, it's thirty minutes

475
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,719
Speaker 1: of content, forty if you're generous an hour and then

476
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: two hours, it becomes one of the worst things that

477
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: was ever put on television. All right, well let's take

478
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: a break and then we'll talk a little bit more

479
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: about the actual um uh. I don't want to call

480
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: it content, but it is content in the strictest definitions.

481
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: Right after this, George, all right, so the show itself,

482
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: we've given you the main plot line, which again is

483
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: that Chewy is trying to get back to his home

484
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: planet to celebrate life Day with his family. Right, that's it,

485
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: And again we almost barely see Chewy. Yeah, the rest

486
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: is his family on because look waiting for him to

487
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: come back for a life Day. Yeah. So um. Some

488
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: of the various things they did, they were guest stars.

489
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: There was Harvey Corman from the Carol Burnett Show, one

490
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: of my all time favorites him or Carol Carol Burnett

491
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: Show both. He's great. Yeah, he actually if you watch

492
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: what he's doing, you're like, this is comedy genius for sure.

493
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: Apparently he too, was like the only one on set

494
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: that was bringing levity. He was joking around and kind

495
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: of kept spirits up. Good for him, that's what I say.

496
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: And he had three different three different parts. Yeah, he

497
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: played uh well, I don't even know the names. Actually

498
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: we could look him up, but he played a he

499
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: played a Julia child like cook. There's an actual cooking segment,

500
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: a long one, a very long cooking segment where Chewbacca's

501
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: wife Um makes Banta stew to kill some time, to

502
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: kill some time because waiting on her planet and in

503
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: our living room. Yeah, so Harvey Corman is in drag

504
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: is a foe armed Julia childlike uh TV chef And

505
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: I think it's Gormanda. Is her name Gormanda? That makes

506
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: total sense. He also plays Um. There's this one weird

507
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 1: bit where Chewbacca's son tries to figure out a way

508
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: to trick the stormtroopers that the Empire had come and

509
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: kind of because the blockade raided the house and other properties.

510
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: So he tries to trick them by I think, rigging

511
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: a calm link to speak in a different voice. So

512
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: he has to watch the instruction manual. He watches an

513
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: instruction video which was Harvey Kitel as a robot. Oh,

514
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: it would have been wonderful, little big Harvey Kitel. Harvey Carvey,

515
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: Oh many murder someone in the middle of the instruction

516
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: Harvey Corman. And then the final role he had was

517
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: as a a bar patron in the cantina that drinks.

518
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: He has a hole in the top of his head

519
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: like a volcano, where he pours his drinks and that's

520
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: how he drinks. And he he loves be Arthur. Did

521
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: we mention be Arthur was in it? B Arthur is

522
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: not only in it, Chuck. She sings a song. She does.

523
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: She is theodnotes to everyone she manages or maybe owns.

524
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: The owner. Yeah, the what's the mos? What mos deaf cantina?

525
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: Uh no, most deaf is a rapper? Oh yeah, I

526
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: think you mean Moss Eisley. Yes, yes, that cantina. She's

527
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: the owner. Be Arthur is the owner be author of

528
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: the Golden Girls, but in this case the Arthur of Maud, because,

529
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: as one of the people who wrote one of the

530
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: articles we based this on points out, she's just basically

531
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: playing Maud as the owner of the cantina. Yeah, and

532
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: her song comes because um, they basically say, there's a lockdown,

533
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: so you gotta call last call um at your bar.

534
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: So she calls last call by singing a song to everyone. Right,

535
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: and again, we can't possibly have the script lead anywhere

536
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: else but Chew Bacca's house while his family waits for it.

537
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: So all this takes place as part of a public

538
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: service announcement basically broadcast by the Empire about how immoral

539
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: life on tattooing is. So let's go see what's going

540
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: on in the mos Eisley Cantina as it's being shut

541
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: down for curfew. Alright, this is incomprehensible, but it goes on. Um,

542
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: so they're in it. There's also Art Carney. Yes, he's

543
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: the Honeymooners family, the star of the whole thing. Really,

544
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: he has the most lines, I would say, the most

545
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: comprehensible line. Right. So he plays a trader, a human

546
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: trader um that is, uh recently been with Han Solo

547
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: and Chewy and actually gets to Kazook and says they're

548
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: on the way. It's all good. Yeah, a trade or

549
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: not trade tour. Yeah, traders in trades humans for you know, money. No,

550
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: he he sells goods. Yeah, a trader. He isn't trade humans. Yeah,

551
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: he's in the human trade. He No, he isn't. Really

552
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: he trades humans like he sells humans. Looked it up

553
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: in the Star Wars Encyclopedia said that he was in

554
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: the human trade. So in this Christmas special, apparently they

555
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: sanitized his his background because he's basically just sell like

556
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: gadgets and novelties and stuff like that to the Wookies

557
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: and the Empire who were occupying the area. Yes, he

558
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: comes bearing gifts because he's a friend of Chewbacca's family. Yeah,

559
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: so he comes bearing gifts. One of the gifts he

560
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: gives is a UM sort of like a little digital

561
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: insert to a Oh, I guess you would call it

562
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: a virtual reality hair dryer hair dryer, like a beauty

563
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: shop hair dryer. Right. He gives it to Grandpa Itchy.

564
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: Grandpa Itchy UM sits under this hair dryer pops in

565
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 1: this uh digital cassette, and it can only be described

566
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: as softcore porn. Apparently the writers who were interviewed for

567
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: this said that was totally the intent. They were trying

568
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 1: to get what amounted to softcore porn that would pass

569
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: the sensors. So it's all m You can't even say

570
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: it's innuendo. It's too obvious in overt for innuendo. Instead,

571
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: it's just it it's just it's just gross. It's really gross. Um.

572
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: Diane Carroll, Yes she is. Um, a Vegas staple shows

573
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: up and starts basically tantalizing. Um. Grandpa Itchy, who again,

574
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: this is Chewbacca's elderly father who now engages in some

575
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: sort of well he's he's watching virtual reality pornography now,

576
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: and this is a pretty lengthy segment in and of itself.

577
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and she literally says to him, now, I

578
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: can see you're really excited. Yeah, it's pretty rough to watch. Yeah,

579
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: So then you've got another musical number because also again

580
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: he shutters, it's really strange, all right, So there's also ah,

581
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: I know, it seems like we're jumping around, but it's

582
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: it's so flow not like this is pretty much like

583
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: blow for blow. Um. Actually I forgot earlier on in

584
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 1: the in the special, um, there's one of my favorite

585
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: sequences is when Grandpa Itchy goes over to Lumpy and

586
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: basically sets up remember the the hologram chessboard that they

587
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: played in A New Hope, basically kind of sets that

588
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: up and says, here, just play this. He pushes the

589
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: button which is clearly a nineteen seventies cassette recorder and

590
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: another uh, like it's like a Cirque de sol acid

591
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: trip um gymnast routine happens in front of the kid's eyes.

592
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: And again this all just it's not like it shows

593
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: a snippet. They showed the entire segments, like five, six,

594
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: ten minutes long of all of these things. So you

595
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: would think, Okay, they've gone to this hologram well a

596
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 1: couple of times, why not go to it again? Well

597
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: they do. They do to kill more time. While the

598
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: Imperial Guard is ransacking their house. Um, Art Carney apparently,

599
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: I guess it's trying to get one of the Imperial Guard,

600
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: the leader I think, or one of the leaders who

601
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: looks like somebody from Spaceballs by the way, very much so. Um.

602
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: And the writer of the Vanity Fair article, by the

603
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: way said, um, this this is so incomprehensible. The specialist

604
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: George Lucas didn't even have the schwartz with him at

605
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: the time. So anyway, our Carny's distracting this uh Imperial leader. Um,

606
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 1: while they're ransacking the Wookie's house, Chewbacca's house with a hologram,

607
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: and this hologram instead of being an acrobat or Diane

608
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: Carroll or any kind of porn or anything, like that

609
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: is Jefferson Starship and they decide that they're going to

610
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 1: play Light the Sky on Fire, which apparently is about UFOs.

611
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: It's a little music video. Basically, it's a pretty Yeah,

612
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 1: it's the predecessor to like video kill the Radio Storry

613
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 1: you can tell um. And again it is the whole

614
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: lengthy song, the whole thing. So every time that somebody's

615
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: like we need to escape mentally from what's going on

616
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: here in our house, let's go into the video world.

617
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 1: It not just and they don't cut back and forth.

618
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: It's okay, here's five minutes of Jefferson Starship performing this song.

619
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: And even the Jefferson Starship guys um were like, yeah,

620
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,959
Speaker 1: it's sort of a weird trip, like we didn't get it,

621
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: but we did it right. They gave us some money

622
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: and some cocaine. Well probably, so we said, yeah, chuck.

623
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: I think though, um, there yet another segment like this

624
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: is actually widely regarded as the high point of the

625
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: whole thing. So there is a cartoon actually yeah that

626
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: Lump Lumpy watches. Yeah, Lumpy's like the Imperial Guard is

627
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: still ransacking my house. I think I'll entertain myself by

628
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: watching a cartoon on my little Um, I don't know what.

629
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: I guess it was an iPad and uh, he watches

630
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,479
Speaker 1: this cartoon and it's it's actually remarkable for a number

631
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: of reasons. It's the best part of the whole special

632
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: generally agreed upon as such, not just us. And it

633
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: introduces Boba Fett. It's the first time Boba Fett ever

634
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: makes an appearance in the Star Wars universe. Yeah, it's

635
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: actually not a bad And you can't find it in

636
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: the the one version I told you to watch. They

637
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: removed it for copyright. But he didn't watch a separate version, right,

638
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: you can find it on its own. Yeah, and it's Um,

639
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: it's very much reminiscent of like the cartoon style of

640
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: the day, like a he Man or something even even

641
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: it's even a little more artsy than that. Yeah. But

642
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: it does have a plot that you can follow that

643
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: makes sense as a Star Wars thing, and it introduces

644
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: Boba Fette, like you said, And um, it's actually not bad.

645
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: It's like Luke and R two and C three p O. Yeah,

646
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: and they're like they crash on a planet or something. Yeah,

647
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: and Han and Jewry you're in it, and it's the

648
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: first time we see in Darth Vader, it's the first

649
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: time we see Boba Fette and that he is, uh,

650
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: that he is just doing whatever he can do for money.

651
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: Like Luke trusts him at first, C three bos like

652
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: you sure you should trust him this quick and he's like,

653
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: oh three p o you and your non trusting ways.

654
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: And then it turns out he's selling them out to

655
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: the dark side. So it's it's basically Boba Fette is

656
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: an allegory for George Lucas himself. Um, so the cartoon

657
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: comes and goes, and that was the thing that came

658
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: at about the end of the first hour mark, and

659
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: after that everybody just turned off their television sets. Yeah,

660
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Did you watch this when it came U? Yeah,

661
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: I remember watching it, but I don't remember much about it,

662
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: like if I made it through it all. I mean

663
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: it was I was seven and it was on until ten,

664
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: so I probably didn't make it through it all. Um,

665
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: you're probably disturbed. Who knows, I just remember that. I'll

666
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: have to ask my brother. He might have a memory

667
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: of this. Oh, Betty does I'm sure he met everybody

668
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: afterwards or something like that. You know, it has a picture.

669
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 1: Well he was tin at that point. So cynicism had,

670
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: you know, become a thing in his life probably by then,

671
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 1: sure didn't that one? Cynicism kicks into n Hes Scott

672
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: holding out the fourteen fift Yeah maybe so so um chuck,

673
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: the whole thing finally does in. And actually there's a

674
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: guy his name Nathan RayBan, he writes over at the

675
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 1: A V Club. He had a great quote. He basically

676
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: said that one of the great redeeming values of this

677
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: um the special is that it does eventually end. Yeah,

678
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: you know what the first part of the quote is,

679
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced the special wasn't ultimately written and directed

680
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: by a sentient bag of cocaine. And like, go read

681
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,479
Speaker 1: his his review of the Star Wars Holiday Special, because

682
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 1: he goes on to describe exactly what that must have been,

683
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: like the development meeting where the bag of cocaine is

684
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: pacing back and forth talking about what should happen. That's

685
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: what it feels like. But it doesn't and it ends

686
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: even more. It takes this bizarre two hours and wraps

687
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: it up in just a nice bizarre bow. Yeah, so

688
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: what happens is eventually Han Solo should we say spoiler alert. Eventually,

689
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: Han Solo and Chewy make it to the planet. They

690
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: park on the far side of the planet because they

691
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: know the uh the Imperial forces are there and the

692
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: exercise will do Chewy good, so they have to hike

693
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: over there. They eventually make it back home. Uh they

694
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: find a storm the stormtroopers at their house. Um, their

695
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: tree hut. Yeah, which, by the paintings that set this up,

696
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: I don't think we mentioned I don't even call him

697
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: Matt paintings. It looks like someone painted something on the

698
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: wall and they just like put a camera in front

699
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: of it pretty much. Yeah. So they get back and um, Chewbacca,

700
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: Han Solo hides around the corner of Chewbacca steps in

701
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: front of his son to protect him. Han Solo jumps out,

702
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: and the stormtrooper trips over a pile of logs and

703
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: falls over the balcony and dies in a holiday special.

704
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: So they wouldn't even not only could he not shoot

705
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: first with Grido, but they couldn't even have him like

706
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: wrestle the storm trooper and throw him off. He trips

707
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: over a log and Han Solo has his hands thrown

708
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: up like wasn't me It might as well have been

709
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: a banana peel, you know. But again, uh, this is

710
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: basically produced by vaudevillians starring vague villians. Why not have

711
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: the one death take ace from basically what amounts to

712
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: somebody slipping on a banana feel it's a perfect way

713
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: to end it. So that's uh that that guy basically

714
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: represents the end of the imperial threat for the rest

715
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: of Life Day. And um, we we then see Life

716
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: Day being celebrated, which is celebrated by lots of wookies

717
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 1: assembling in what looks like a giant Olan Mills portrait. Um,

718
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: and all of them are wearing red robes. And I

719
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: know I'm up talking, and it's because my mind is

720
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: still having trouble like wrapping around this. And then um,

721
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: Princess Leia comes out with C three P O is

722
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: Mark Hamill there, the whole gang zerof Okay, the whole

723
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: gang there, And then they all gather around to hear

724
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: a great quote from Princess Leia, which we will read

725
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 1: um verbatim. This holiday is yours, but we all share

726
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 1: with you the hope that this day brings us closer

727
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: to freedom, into harmony, and to peace, no matter how different,

728
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: we appear we're all the same in our struggle against

729
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: the powers of evil and darkness. I hope that this

730
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: day will always be a day of joy in which

731
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: we can reconfirm our dedication and our courage, and more

732
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: than anything else, our love for one another. This is

733
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: the promise of the Tree of Life que song, right,

734
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: And we should also point out the tree of Life

735
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: has never been mentioned up to this point. A sudden

736
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: appearance at the end. And when you said que song,

737
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: by que Song, you mean Princess Leiah starts singing. Yeah.

738
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: And apparently that was one of the big contingencies on

739
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: Carrie Fisher being involved. She's going through a phase where

740
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: she's like, I kind of like singing. Bruce Valanche calls

741
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: it her Joni Mitchell period. Yeah, and she somehow convinced

742
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: them to let her sing as Princess Leiah, and she does.

743
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: And again I've said that she looks like she's on drugs.

744
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: This is the point where she really does look like

745
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,479
Speaker 1: she's on drugs. And it's not just me um other

746
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 1: writers who have written reviews of this. It's really obvious

747
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 1: that she possibly smoked a decent amount of pot before

748
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: she shot this. Shot this scene, but she sings, Oh, okay,

749
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: it's fine. It's just the fact that um, Princess Leigh

750
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,959
Speaker 1: is singing. And actually, Bruce Valanche had a really great

751
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: quote too. He says that, um, she very much wanted

752
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: to show this side of her talent, and there was

753
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: general dismay because this was not what we wanted Princess

754
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: Leia to be doing. She did it anyway. So the

755
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: whole thing ends with her singing this song about life day,

756
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: which is set loosely to the John Williams Star Wars theme. Uh.

757
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: So along the way, the director original director quit, A

758
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: new director, Steve Binder, was hired to finish the job

759
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: and bring it in. Uh. And he did over the

760
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: original one million dollar budget, of course. Always Uh, he

761
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: did bring it in and um at this point George

762
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: Lucas had uh. He was he was working on Empire

763
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: Strikes Back. He didn't know what was going on. He

764
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: wasn't around for the shoot. No, it wasn't until it aired.

765
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: I think that he actually saw it. Yes, and it

766
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: was a travesty obviously, if you haven't noticed that by now,

767
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: Critics hated it. Star Wars fans really hated it. Everybody

768
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: hate the people who were in it hated it. Lucas

769
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: hated it. Um, you've been Harvey Corman secretly hated it.

770
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: Even Harvey Kitel hated Actually he loved it. But Lucas

771
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: has been asked over the years about it a lot,

772
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: and he doesn't talk about it much. But in two

773
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: thousand five, and I don't buy this for a second,

774
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: he says, Um, it was an interview, he said special

775
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: from I really didn't have much to do with us.

776
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: You know that part is true. I can't remember what

777
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: network it was even on, but it was a thing

778
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: that they did. That's a lie. There's no way he

779
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: doesn't know that was CBS. Uh. We kind of just

780
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: let them do it. I believe that it was done

781
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: by I can't even remember who the group was, but

782
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: they were variety TV guys. I'm sure he remembers a

783
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: few of them. We let them use the characters and stuff,

784
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: and probably wasn't the smartest thing to do, but you

785
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: learned from those experiences. I think they even use some

786
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: of the footage from the movie. At the end, it

787
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: looks like some of the space like a highlight reel.

788
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: The gang well, and during the um it looked like

789
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: some of the they had some insert shots of like

790
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: Imperial cruisers and Thai fighters and stuff that. Remember when

791
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: when Chewbacca like leans back and puts his hands behind it,

792
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: that's in there. It's it's like a it's just a

793
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: highlight reel from the movie saying like I feel like this,

794
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: go see the movie. Well, and also that means it

795
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: doesn't match the look of the rest of it at all. Yeah,

796
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: that's true. It's just sort of inserted. They tried, They

797
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: definitely tried, UM, And George Lucas is totally full of

798
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: it because in seven he told star Log magazine that

799
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,479
Speaker 1: the Christmas Special would be out on video cassette very soon,

800
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: and in two thousand seven, two years after that quote,

801
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: you just read where he's like, I don't even know

802
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. Basically, Um. He apparently considered releasing

803
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: the christ Special is a bonus on the UM the

804
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: DVDs of the first three right, but did not didn't

805
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 1: And apparently Carrie Fisher told Lucas that if you want

806
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: me to do UM DVD extras commentary commentary, then I

807
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: want a clean, original copy of the Holiday Special, So

808
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: why go ahead? So I can play at parties when

809
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: I want people to leave. It's pretty great. It is

810
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: so uh and there is one of those clean copies

811
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: is floating around out there, so you can watch this

812
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: in it in its entirety. Some of it, like the cartoon,

813
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: was removed due to copyright infringement and that kind of stuff,

814
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: but as as the case with the rest of the Internet,

815
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: you can just go find it elsewhere and piece it together.

816
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: There's also the original ads that aired in Baltimore that

817
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: are just fascinating. Those are always fun GM ads where

818
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 1: one of the guys who's in quality control is he says,

819
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: did you watch it? I don't think I saw that.

820
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: He goes, um, we really care about these cars and

821
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: that's no job man, a GM man, and he's like

822
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: they're trying to be hip. Yeah. Um, it's a pretty

823
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: good stuff. Here's my final thought on it. I love it.

824
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: It does not taint my Star Wars experience or my

825
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,479
Speaker 1: love for the franchise, and I'm glad it is out

826
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: there because it it's a it's a fun little stain

827
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: that shouldn't be taken too seriously. I think it adds

828
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: to it actually, because it's campy and awful and I

829
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: don't know somehow that enriches the rest of it. I'm

830
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: with you, you like it? Oh yeah, I mean I

831
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: watched it twice. I wouldn't watched it a second I

832
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't have made it through the first time. I let

833
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: me take that back, as I'm a pro, so I

834
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: would have made it through the first time. I wouldn't

835
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 1: have watched it a second time if I wasn't. There

836
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: wasn't something about it, and I figured out. I think

837
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: the thing that I like the most about it is Lumpy,

838
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: Chewbacca's son, played by an actress named Patty Maloney, who

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Speaker 1: She like her responses and everything is just awesome. I

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Speaker 1: think my favorite parts are, uh, well, there's a great

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Speaker 1: Wilhelm scream trips over the law. Jerry would not have

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Speaker 1: noticed it. Uh And then there's a part where all

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Speaker 1: the wikie dialogue you can't understand, but there's clearly one

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Speaker 1: part where we're Itchy and Lumpy. Are have any exchange

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Speaker 1: where Lumpy you can make it out goes I love you. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I noticed that, but it's covered up. But someone was like,

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Speaker 1: I think she said I love you. Should we have

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Speaker 1: them redo it? And the directors like, no, I want

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Speaker 1: to go and Chuck. There's one other thing that I

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Speaker 1: figured out from watching this. It's not readily apparent. The

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Speaker 1: whole thing is made all the more odd, and that

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Speaker 1: there's situation after situation after situation where we, as normal audiences,

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Speaker 1: a laugh track. Hadn't been a laugh track, it what

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Speaker 1: it might have been less bizarre, but the fact that

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Speaker 1: throughout it. Ye, like when Art Carney's doing his thing, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: telling jokes, Yeah, okay, I agree with you, Chuck. Don't

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Speaker 1: take things too seriously. I think that's the great lesson

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Speaker 1: It is. And in two thousand seven, Riff tracks The

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Speaker 1: Great Mystery Science Theater three thousand Guys Mike Nelson, Bill Corbett,

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Speaker 1: if you can as well. So you can. It's on

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Speaker 1: least I think Corbett listens to us. So, hey, Corbett,

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Speaker 1: you got anything else? No, No, I think we did this.

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Speaker 1: There's some good stuff. Go read the Vanity Fair article.

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Speaker 1: Uh Han Solo Comedy Hour. There's a book called How

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Speaker 1: Star Wars Conquered the Universe that has a very interesting

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Speaker 1: chapter about this. That's where we found it asserted that

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Speaker 1: George Lucas never said that he would smash this thing

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Speaker 1: with a sledge hammer. Um. And there's also an entire

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, just finished listening to the Voyage Manuscript podcast.

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Speaker 1: Found it's super interesting, especially the theories on its definition

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