1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: today's best minds, and Donald Trump has lost his last 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: ditch effort to delay the hush money trial. We have 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: such a great show for you today. Congresswoman Becca Balint 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: stops by to talk to us about the Comstock Act 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: and the effect it could have on women's reproductive healthcare 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: across America. Then we'll talk to Whitney Fox about her 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: run against one of Congress's most unhinged Maga Republicans. But 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: first we have the host of the Lawrence O'Donnell Show, 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell. Welcome back to Fast Politics. Fan favorite 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: and honestly my favorite. 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: Laurence o'doll and survivor of the eclipse. More importantly, Yeah, 14 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: the ninety percent eclipse in New York City, which was 15 00:00:54,960 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: really great and was beyond my expectation for it. Actually 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,639 Speaker 2: the drop in temperature that was really amazing. You certainly 17 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: come out of it with a newfound gratitude for the sun, 18 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: something I've avoided my entire life. The sun has been 19 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: my enemy, and I just I'm a shade seeker, but 20 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: now I'm beginning to get it. I'm beginning to understand 21 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: why the sun is there. 22 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: So one of the things I want to talk to 23 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: you about today was, Okay, so we're now getting close 24 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: to two hundred days from this election. 25 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 2: You know when I found out it's two hundred days 26 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: right now, this second, this is when I found it out. 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: It's a depressing it's depressing. 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: Right, No, I don't find it depressing. Oh good, No, No, 29 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: I mean, look, it is a little bit of life 30 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: strategy involved, but it's mostly for you know, reasons of 31 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: real information and the way things look. But the life 32 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: strategy and this I learned this very very late in life. 33 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: And it was a movie star who taught me this lesson. 34 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: And so I can't say his name because it would 35 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: be too much name dropping, but and the lesson was taught. 36 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: The lesson was taught to me while we were waiting 37 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: for our cars out of la at a Hollywood party 38 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: where I had a pilot in development at a network 39 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: at the time, and I said something about, you know, 40 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: we're going to find out, you know, next week if 41 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 2: they want to make the pilot. Out of ten scripts 42 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: they make maybe you know, one or two pilots so 43 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: and I kind of left it at that, and he 44 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: said to me, well, you know, optimism is a choice. 45 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: And by the way, that that was my bad imitation 46 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: of him, so like anyone who's trying to guess so, 47 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: and I went geez, And I never it never crossed 48 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 2: my mind that it was a choice. I thought, you know, realism, 49 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 2: which is to say, cynicism in the culture I grew 50 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: up in, is the only reasonable position because you will 51 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: arrive first at life's recurring destination, which is disappointment. So 52 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: if you are expecting the worst, congratulations, you know you 53 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: got it. But then every once in a while you 54 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: don't get the worst. And so what that means is 55 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: you spent a considerable amount of time feeling the depression 56 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: of being hit by the worst, and then you didn't 57 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: get hit by it. And in fact, you know, the 58 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: network made my pilot and put it on the air. 59 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: So I feel like, if the presidential election goes in 60 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: the direction that I don't like on November fifth, I 61 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: will have plenty of time beginning the midnight of November 62 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: fifth to feel unbelievably depressed about it. And none of 63 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: you people who got a head start on me will 64 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: feel any less depressed than I will. Okay, so let's 65 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: wait for them. These may be the final pleasant days 66 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: of our lives. Let's not rush, you know, to the horror. 67 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: If someone told you, you know, you have two hundred 68 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: days of goodwill and you know goodness in your life, 69 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: and then bad stuff's going to happen. I choose to 70 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: enjoy those two hundred days. 71 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: That's sage wisdom right there. 72 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: I think it's the kind of wisdom you have to 73 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: age into. I was not available to that idea when 74 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 2: I was thirty five, Like, I was not available to it. 75 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, I think for sure. One of the 76 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: other very smart things you've said to me was that 77 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: being an outsider to American politics and not is actually 78 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: huge advantage when you're looking at it. I wonder if 79 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: you could talk about that, especially right now. 80 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, because unfortunately politics now has too much data, way, 81 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: way way too much data. You know. It's it's it's 82 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: like what's happened to professional baseball? You know where they 83 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 2: have you know the number of seconds between pitches and 84 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: the number of times this guy has hit third pitch 85 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 2: that has been thrown to him. And you know, when 86 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 2: I was a kid. They had batting averages and runs, 87 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: baut it in and strikeouts, and you know that was 88 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: about it, you know, and it's really all you needed 89 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: to know. I mean, if you look at the minimal 90 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: data baseball players of say the nineteen fifties, of the 91 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: you know, these Demaggio's and Ted Williams nineteen sixties, Willie 92 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: Mays and these people, there's no new form of data 93 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: that would increase your understanding of how great Willy Mays 94 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: was at the game of baseball in every single angle 95 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: of the game of baseball. And so that incredible limited 96 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 2: amount of information that fans and coaches and players had 97 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 2: and say the nineteen sixties and sport was adequate. You 98 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: don't need this extra stuff. And so we now have 99 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: this crazy amount of data, just a crazy amount, way 100 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 2: more data than we ever had, you know, decades ago. 101 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 2: So many different entities doing polls, you know, universities doing polls, 102 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,239 Speaker 2: the reason they're paying money to do a poll. Let's 103 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: say your name is Suffolk University, and can I have 104 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: a show of hands of people who've ever who know 105 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: where Suffolk University is? Thank you? I'm the only one, okay, 106 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: because pretty much everyone in my family except me went 107 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: to Suffolk University. Suffolk University is a commuter college in downtown. 108 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: It's in downtown Boston, which, of course, as you know, 109 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: is Suffolk County, right. So the only reason you know 110 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: Suffolk University can be known outside of this commuter college 111 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: market that it has been in since my father went 112 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: there when he was a Boston company. He went to 113 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: College Knights. Is to do a poll, is to pay 114 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 2: for a poll that we then announced to the world 115 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: is a Suffolk University poll. Or here's another one, and 116 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 2: raise your hand, and I'm going to exclude one state, 117 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: but in forty nine states, if you can tell me 118 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 2: where Quinnipiac College is, I will buy you a car. 119 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: So you know, I you know. And I knew where 120 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: Quinnipiac College was before it started paying for polls because 121 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: I was working for senator representing the entire state of 122 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: New York, and so you had to know about obscure 123 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,239 Speaker 2: little places like Quinnipiac College and upstate New York. These 124 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: players are in this game trying to get attention for 125 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: their schools so that kids out there applying to colleges 126 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: will go, oh, yeah, I've heard of that place. I 127 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: mean it's the likelihood of you applying to a college 128 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: you've never heard of is much lower than you applying 129 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: to a college you've heard of. And so when you 130 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: think about what they're trying to actually do, it's not 131 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: inform voters. No one's trying to inform voters with a pole. 132 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: They're trying to inform reporters with a pole and say 133 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: to report orders, this is the way you should think 134 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: about doing your horse race coverage. And in the competition 135 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: of you know, Emerson College, which is a college, okay, 136 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: I'll do this one quickly, a college in Boston, Okay, 137 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: which trains actors and musicians, and decided to get in 138 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: the business of paying for polls so that they could 139 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: attract more applications from you know, other places in the 140 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: world and try to compete with NYU and USC in 141 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: these places. So they're all in competition with these other 142 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: businesses called things like CBS News and the New York Times, 143 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 2: who also pay for polls, which is to say, they 144 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: purchase news stories to put in a possessive way on 145 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: the front page of the New York Times. Because the 146 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: New York Times paid for this news by paying for 147 00:08:55,000 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: the poll. So there's this poll saturation that is unhelpful. 148 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: And the more you can pull back from that and 149 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: ignore it, and the more you know about polls, the 150 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: more you ignore them and you start to pay attention 151 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: to them and around August of the election year, because 152 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 2: only then do you start to get likely voter polls, 153 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: which are the only ones that matter, and you start 154 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: to get them in the so called battleground states which 155 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 2: matter because you know, a pole of California doesn't matter, 156 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 2: a poll of Massachusetts doesn't matter. Because the founders, in 157 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: their infinite stupidity, which was as big as their infinite wisdom, 158 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to grant them infinite wisdom as long as 159 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: we grant them simultaneous stupidity in creating the electoral college, 160 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: which really wasn't so stupid from their perspective, because they 161 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: were mostly anti democratic men. They did not believe in 162 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: democracy as we understand it. They believed in this very 163 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: select group of people choosing the people who would be 164 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: in government. And so the idea that you know, just 165 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 2: a giant popular vote of the whole country, of everybody 166 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: you know over a certain age who can vote, they 167 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 2: would think that was insane. They would object to that 168 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: and so many of them. If they were, you know, 169 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: back here today, they'd go, hey, we're really proud of 170 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: the electoral College because at least that is anti democratic 171 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: and that's that's working the way we wanted it to. 172 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: But you know, so polls, you know, they become interesting 173 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: when you're talking about likely voters. None of them are 174 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: likely voter polls. Now they're all registered voter polls, you know, 175 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: likely voter polls. Closer to the election, they become kind 176 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: of interesting. But if you've lived through Michael Ducaccus's eighteen 177 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: point lead after the convention, After both conventions in nineteen 178 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: eighty eight, Michael Ducaccus had an eighteen point lead over 179 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: George Bush, the first George Bush And there is no 180 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 2: do Caucus Presidential library because it turns out those were 181 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 2: useless polls and those polls were way outside the margin 182 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: of error. We have not seen a lead that big 183 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: in a presidential poll since Bill Clinton had a lead 184 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: like that over Bob Dole in the spring of nineteen 185 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: ninety six, and it narrowed, it went down. It was 186 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: much smaller towards the end there. But you know, you 187 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: have to know that there was not a single poll. 188 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 2: And now I'm teaching ancient history. What it's worth knowing 189 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: there wasn't a single poll in America that predicted that 190 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: the Republicans would win the House of Representatives for the 191 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: first time in forty years in nineteen ninety four. That 192 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: was not predicted by a single pundit or a single poll. 193 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: It was also not predicted at the very same time 194 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 2: that the Republicans would win the United States Senate, win 195 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: it back. They'd won it before, but you know, win 196 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: it back in nineteen ninety four. So that and that, 197 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: by the way, was the biggest electoral surprise of my lifetime. 198 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 2: Were both of those things, you know, the Republicans winning 199 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: the House, which literally had never happened in my lifetime, 200 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: and the Republicans winning the Senate. Those were much bigger 201 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: electoral sup eyes actually than Trump winning in twenty sixteen. 202 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: And so there's just no comfort or wisdom to be 203 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: taken in polls. And you know, if the polls, if 204 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: every single poll you simply flipped the outcome, right, if 205 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: you put the name Biden where the name Trump is, 206 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: you know, Trump is ahead by two points or something 207 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: in this poll. No one, no one rooting for Biden 208 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: would feel better. You know, if you think, oh my god, 209 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: Trump's going to win, where do you get that confidence 210 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 2: looking at the poll? Because the polls are so tight, 211 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: you know, they're just so narrow that if Biden was 212 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: on the had the higher number in these polls every 213 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: single time, no one would feel any more comfortable. You're 214 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: not going to get comfort out of polls in the 215 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: modern presidential election environment because they're just going to always 216 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: run way too close. 217 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: Right, And it's still within the margin of error. 218 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: Again, a note about the margin of error when someone 219 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: when you read the poll and it says the margin 220 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: of error is, let's round it up to four points, 221 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: let's call it three, which is a low margin of error. 222 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: They're usually higher. Three points means that if someone is 223 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: pulling at forty five, that person could be as high 224 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: as forty eight or as low as forty two. It's 225 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: actually a band of six points within which that person's 226 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: number lives somewhere same thing with the other person's number. 227 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: So pretty much every one of these polls all the 228 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 2: time is a tie within the margin of error. 229 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the things, though, that Trump has definitely 230 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: seen is that a bore is that he's lising on abortion, 231 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: and that is why last night or yesterday he put 232 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: out this statement. You talked about this on your show 233 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: last night. You've talked about this really in an important 234 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: and interesting way, and you have a little bit of 235 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: history from your earlier career in the working in the Senate. 236 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: So I'm curious what your take on this is. It's 237 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: like nineteen seventy three again, right, yeah, Well. 238 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: You know, Trump has never understood abortion politics since he 239 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: became a candidate. And because he never understood anything about it, 240 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 2: he just adopted the Republican position word for word in 241 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: his first run for the presidency, and he understood by 242 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: the way that he absolutely had to do that in 243 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: order to get the nomination. And Mitch McConnell had to 244 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: combine with him to produce a list of judges that 245 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: he would nominate. Now, no one's ever done that before 246 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: in the history presidential campaign saying here's the list of 247 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: people I will nominate to the Supreme Court, if you know, 248 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: with the vacancy that was being held open for him, 249 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: and that list, of course, Trump didn't know a single name, Honor, 250 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: He didn't know anything about it. It's just like, this 251 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: is what I have to do, so I have to 252 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: do to get the nomination, then to hold onto those votes, 253 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 2: I'll do it. And now he's discovering the challenge because 254 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: he thinks, you know, he's a moron. Of course, so 255 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 2: he thinks he's found a solution that can work for 256 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: the Republican candidate, and of course it doesn't because he 257 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: has now embraced as right and just every single abortion 258 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: in the biggest abortion state in the Union, which is 259 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: of course California, because it is the biggest state for everything, 260 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: including agriculture and every other thing that begins with a 261 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: California or any other letter, California has the most of it. 262 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: So Donald Trump is saying, you know what, it's up 263 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: to the states, So every single abortion in California is 264 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: one hundred percent fine with me. And he's also saying 265 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: at the very same time that the Idaho law that 266 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: sentences you to prison for five years for involvement in 267 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: an abortion is also totally fine with Trump. And so 268 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: one of the reasons why Donald Trump would be very 269 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: afraid of a presidential debate, which I suspect has a 270 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: strong chance of not happening and I hope doesn't, because 271 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: they're not debates, and they're just stupid exercises. But the 272 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: problem for him in a debate where he can't escape 273 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: being confronted with certain things being said to him is so, Donald, 274 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: you approve of the five year prison sentence in Idaho. 275 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: You think that is correct, that states should be allowed 276 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 2: to do that, and he has to say yes or 277 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: no to that. Of course, he wouldn't say yes or 278 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: no to it. He would just run around in crazy 279 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: verbal circles. And at the same time, you can say, Tom, 280 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: you approve of every abortion in California and New York, Right, 281 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: you approve of all of those. And so that's the 282 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: crazy box. You know that he has put himself in, 283 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: and he's a known liar. Trump voters know he's a liar, right, 284 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: and so everyone on every side of the issue knows 285 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: he's trying to lie his way through it. That's what 286 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: he's trying to do now, while, of course, because he 287 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: has no other accomplishments, werowdly taking credit for overturning roversus way, 288 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: you know, just proudly taking credit for it as something 289 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 2: that is opposed by a very very large majority of 290 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: the voters. 291 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, that video was so incredible because he's like, I 292 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: did that, And then he's like, but, by. 293 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 2: The way, can I say a word about the video 294 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: because I do this this thing on my show that 295 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: for the first time last night, after the show, I 296 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: began to second guess. I won't give Trump the whole screen, right, 297 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 2: because it's just too repulsive in every way to have 298 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: him on the screen. But when we have to see 299 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: him say something, I give him half the screen and 300 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 2: then I occupy the other half. Or if I have guests, 301 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: I give him a small amount of the screen and 302 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: we all occupy the screen so that you at home 303 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: will not be alone with Donald Trump on your screen. 304 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: And however, after the show last night, so I see 305 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: a tiny image of Trump because I'm looking at it 306 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 2: in this tiny monitor during the show when we do 307 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 2: those shots, right and after the show, I see the 308 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: full screen video. Stephanie Rule runs the full screen video 309 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: of him saying the same stuff, and I couldn't believe 310 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: what was on his face. There was some unbelievably strange 311 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: bronze mud, someone who like someone who grabbed some forty 312 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 2: year old bronzer, and just he looked like a monster 313 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: to anyone who was looking at that, and You've got 314 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: to wonder like the people working for him. I guess 315 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,959 Speaker 2: they're so terrified. None of them consider him mister president, 316 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: which is what they have to call him a person. 317 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 2: The shit on your face really is a bad idea, 318 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: you know? Or are they just doing us the favor. 319 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 2: Are they sitting there going, you know what hey like 320 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 2: in their memoirs and then go, yeah, I'm the guy 321 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 2: who made sure Trump look really awful in his videos. 322 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: You know, thirty years from now, that's that's going to 323 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 2: be their big reveal. I just couldn't believe what he 324 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 2: looked like. 325 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: I too had that same thought. Thank you so much, 326 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: Lawrence for joining us. I hope you will come back. 327 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: Always a pleasure. Thank you very much. 328 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: Spring is here and I bet you are trying to 329 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: look fashionable, So why not pick up some fashionable all 330 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: new Fast Politics merchandise. We just opened a news store 331 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: with all new designs just for you. Get t shirts, hoodies, hats, 332 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: and top bags. To grab some head to Fastpolitics dot com. 333 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: Becca Blind represents Vermont's Soul congressional district. Welcome back, Congresswoman. 334 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 335 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: One of the things that's so exciting about you is 336 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: that you are young. You represent Vermont's only congressional district. Yes, 337 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: the stuff that is high on your agenda is the 338 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: kind of really smart stuff that I too care passionately about. 339 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the Comstock Act. When did you 340 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: learn about this act from more than one hundred years ago? 341 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's like a undred and fifty year old 342 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 4: misogynistic law, right design role women, one hundred and fifty years. 343 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: Created to prevent pornography from being sent in the mail. 344 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 4: Right, Well, yes, pornography, but also anything. 345 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 3: That was considered obscene, a corruption of. 346 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 4: Morality, and it criminalized sending contraception, anything related to abortion 347 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 4: through the mail. 348 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 3: And it was not exclusively that. 349 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 4: There were also some parts of Comstock that were about 350 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 4: male scams basically. But that we're most concerned about, of course, 351 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 4: is the fact that this was essentially criminalizing women's bodies. 352 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 4: And so it is so outrageous and ridiculous that we're 353 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: even having to talk about this now. 354 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: But this is the playbook. 355 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: It's from eighteen seventy three. It was an anti obscenity 356 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: law that banned the mailing, sale, advertisement, or distribution of 357 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: any drug or implement that can be used to cause 358 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: an abortion. When did you realize that Republicans were cooking 359 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: up a plan for this. 360 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 4: I was in the state legislature before I was in Congress, 361 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 4: and we saw so much in the playbook that the 362 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 4: Republicans were using in state legislatures, and they really signaled 363 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 4: to us it wasn't just that they were going to 364 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 4: try to make abortion difficult. They wanted to completely ban it. 365 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 3: So we in. 366 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 4: Vermont we said about codifying reproductive rights in statute and 367 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 4: then in our state constitution. But I don't know if 368 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 4: you know this about me. I have a master's in history, 369 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 4: so you actually knew about those, yes, And when you 370 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 4: think about you know, here's this man who was a 371 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 4: Union Army veteran who essentially went from his place in 372 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 4: Connecticut to New York City and felt like, oh, you know, 373 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 4: New York City is a denisin. We have to control 374 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 4: these licentious women. And so it also got to the 375 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 4: point of ridiculousness. I was telling my staff earlier. He 376 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 4: would also try to ban the showing of Bodicelli's The 377 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 4: Birth of Venus in New York. So it was Sweeten 378 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 4: really sweeping what he considered to be obscene, and so 379 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 4: it's shocking to think that this is what the Republicans, 380 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 4: in the MAGA movement, in the Trump movement, what they 381 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 4: want to do is bring us back to that time 382 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 4: when women don't just have access to their own bodies 383 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 4: and making sure that we have a right to a 384 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 4: full range of reproductive health, including abortion. They want to 385 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 4: bring us back to a place where contraception is also 386 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 4: called into question whether we have a right to that. 387 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 4: It is absolutely about controlling women's bodies and dragging us 388 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 4: all back to the eighteen seventies. Think about that. 389 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: When I listened to these oral arguments and I heard 390 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: a Leado and Thomas talking about the Comstock Act, what 391 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: I thought was really interesting was they didn't refer to 392 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: it by the name. They referred to it by the number. 393 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: And I think that was very intentional because they knew. 394 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,239 Speaker 3: But they're sneaky right. 395 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: Leto said telling effective, well, that's a widely known do 396 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: you come in do run into interference with the widely 397 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: known and commonly used you know? And he didn't say 398 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: Comstock Act, he said you know two three four seven 399 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: or something, And I was like, oh shit, they're really 400 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: going to use the Comstock Act to try to ban 401 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: sending stuff. 402 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 3: In the mail exactly. 403 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 4: We heard them say, quote, this is a prominent provision. 404 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 4: It's not some your sub section of a complicated obscure law. Right. 405 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 4: Every field knew about it, So they're they're breathing more legitimacy. 406 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 4: Back to the Concept Act, which has been considered dead 407 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 4: law for a long time. I want to bring up 408 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 4: for listeners that if you haven't taken the time to 409 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 4: go back and look at what project twenty twenty five 410 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 4: is all about. And Jonathan Mitchell, who is one of 411 00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 4: the lead architects, he is this extremist attorney who he's 412 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 4: always looking for loopholes and he's looking for workarounds. He 413 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 4: does not want the Supreme Court to have jurisdiction authority 414 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 4: over these issues, and so he's trying to do an. 415 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 3: And run around it. 416 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 4: He was the one with the mastermind behind the creepy 417 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 4: provision in the Texas law that said Americans could spy 418 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 4: on each other and turn. 419 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 5: In bounty hunters, right xactly exactly, And so he said, quote, 420 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 5: there's this smortgash board of options available to us because 421 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 5: comstock is still on the books. 422 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 3: That's what we're dealing with now. 423 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: Right, I remember that. And what's interesting I think about 424 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: SBA was SBA really was the was the precursor to 425 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: grow A full year before the Supreme Court was able 426 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: to overturn Roby Wade. With Dobbs, they had really pretty 427 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: much outloud abortion in Texas. It's just a little like 428 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: bit of trivia. Comstock Anthony Comstock was actually ultimately later 429 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: in his life became Bruce Choice. 430 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. But what happened in all of the years of 431 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 4: his crusade is he actually delighted in the fact that 432 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 4: he was terrorizing women who he saw as not upholding 433 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 4: morality and had him in several instances floating about the 434 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 4: fact that he pushed women to suicide over the issue 435 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 4: of contraception and abortion. It's so important for us to 436 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 4: understand that things that we think are absolutely beyond the 437 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 4: pale and crazy and would never happen. That's what they're 438 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 4: planning for right now. That's what they want. They absolutely 439 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 4: want us to lose the ability, not again, not just 440 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 4: to lose our ability to have. 441 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: Access to abortion. 442 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 4: They are entertaining the fact of not giving people access 443 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 4: to a full range of contraception, and they also want 444 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 4: to bring back felony punishment that is part of the 445 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 4: Constack Act. They want to punish women for making decisions 446 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 4: about our own bodies. 447 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 3: Right, These are not misdemeanors. 448 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 4: It's shocking that so many Americans thought that Republicans were 449 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 4: not focused on over turning Roby Wade, because they they 450 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 4: absolutely signaled that that is exactly what they've been working 451 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 4: on for so so long, which is why we have 452 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 4: to think really carefully about all the different things that 453 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 4: we can put into place, you know, considering overturning Comstock 454 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 4: being one of them. We were talking earlier today, my 455 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 4: staff and I about how they're going to try to 456 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 4: moderate their views because they've been caught saying the quiet 457 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 4: stuff out loud. And so you've got a situation where 458 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 4: Carrie Lake made a statement today saying that Trump didn't 459 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 4: speak for her when it came to abortion, because they're 460 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 4: realizing now that he didn't speak for her, and also 461 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 4: that the Arizona decision was going to be politically damaging, 462 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 4: and so we can't be fooled. You've got Trump himself 463 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 4: has changed his position on abortion thirteen times in the 464 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 4: last twenty five years, so he can't believe anything that 465 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 4: he says he, you know, he and those like him, 466 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 4: they push forward anything that's politically convenient. So what we 467 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 4: need to look at is the playbook that they're all following, 468 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 4: which is the Project twenty twenty five playbook reinstituting comstock, 469 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 4: controlling women's bodies, and beyond that, criminalizing our decisions about 470 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 4: our own bodies. 471 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: The Arizona judiciary, right their Supreme Court allowed the reinstatement 472 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: of a law from eighteen sixty four, so right around 473 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: just you know, one hundred and sixty years ago, but 474 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 1: who's counting. So now you cannot get an abortion. A 475 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: doctor who helps perform an abortion could go to jail 476 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: from two to four years. 477 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 4: And no exceptions for rape and incess It is clear 478 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 4: that when you say there will only be exceptions for 479 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 4: the life of the mother, that is so ill defined. 480 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 4: You've got doctors right now living in fear that they're 481 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 4: going to be prosecuted or locked up. 482 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 3: And so this this is terrible for women. 483 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 4: And girls in Texas right now, excuse me, well in 484 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 4: Texas too, but in Sona. 485 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 3: Basically, if you look at when that law was. 486 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 4: Passed in eighteen sixty four, okay, women weren't allowed to 487 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 4: vote right, slave right, exactly right. They couldn't own property 488 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 4: if they were married, they couldn't sign contracts, and so 489 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 4: this is essentially again when we say they want to 490 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 4: bring us back one hundred and fifty years, it's no joke, 491 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 4: like it's not hyperbole. We need to understand that these 492 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 4: these attorneys, these conservative attorneys and all their apologists in Congress, 493 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 4: they want a national band in. 494 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 3: Every possible the way. And the reason why they want. 495 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 4: To rein state essentially comstock is because two thirds of 496 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 4: all abortions right now. 497 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: Are the pills that come in the mail, and they're 498 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: trying to get around sending stuff for the mail, and 499 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: you won't be able to get birth control pills in 500 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: the mail. 501 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 3: Either, exactly. 502 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 4: And as I was talking with an attorney friend of 503 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 4: mine who works in this space, and she said, they're 504 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 4: also concerned that if you have a sweeping interpretation of comstock, 505 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 4: that means also you can't send medical gloves through the mail, 506 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 4: you can't send anything that could possibly be used within 507 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 4: an office for abortion right. So it's absolutely would bring 508 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 4: it to a nationwide band, and they could do it 509 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 4: by simply bringing back into use this archaic one hundred 510 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 4: and fifty year old law. 511 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: It was originally a morality law for a different time. 512 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: One of the things I'm struck by is, you know, 513 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: there's this new byn ad where you have this woman 514 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: in Texas who's so brave and really these women who 515 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: have come forward, you know, they've had these terrible, tragic 516 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: situations and then they've had to go in front of 517 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: people and to share one of the most personal, devastating 518 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: things that can happen. But during this ad she narrates 519 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: that she had to carry it. You know, she was 520 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: a human coffin until she was allowed to give birth 521 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: to a dead baby. And one of the things that 522 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm struck by is like, better legislation, more clear legislation 523 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: would have prevented. It's one thing to want to ban abortion. 524 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: It's another thing to give so little of a shit 525 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: that you don't write the laws in order for them 526 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: to be enacted. And you have women as collateral damage 527 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: throughout the country, and now you have all of these 528 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: women living in states where they can't have abortions. So 529 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: talk to me about like legislative you serve with some 530 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: of these people, you're in committees with them. I mean, 531 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: do they just not give a fuck, or are they 532 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: just stupid? 533 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, that was many of them believe, and they 534 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 4: show this through their actions. They believe women are second 535 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 4: class citizens. They do, and they legislate that way, you know, 536 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 4: and they have candidates running on the GOP ticket this 537 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 4: year who said women shouldn't. 538 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 3: Be allowed to vote. 539 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,239 Speaker 4: Like they're saying the quiet part out loud, that is 540 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 4: they absolutely they want to control us, they want to 541 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 4: take away our rights. They do not believe that we 542 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 4: should be treated as full citizens. I honestly believe that 543 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 4: based on what I'm seeing and what's interesting too, Molly 544 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 4: So having worked so hard on reproductive issues in my 545 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 4: home state, which is, you know, a very left leaning state, Vermont, right, 546 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 4: even among some of my Democratic male colleagues, they would 547 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 4: say to us, you know, in caucus. 548 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 3: Why are we working on this? 549 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,959 Speaker 4: Why aren't we working on something that really impacts people, 550 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 4: And of course the women in the caucus, you know, 551 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 4: we would be absolutely furious. 552 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 3: But that is this idea that is still. 553 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 4: Very much in I think the minds of Americans, an 554 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 4: American men in particular, even if they see themselves as 555 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 4: being supportive, being pro choice, they do not understand that 556 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 4: this issue is not just about abortion. It's about the economy. 557 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 4: It's about women's autonomy. It is about our ability to 558 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 4: control when and how we have children. It is our 559 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 4: ability to not, as you said, carry a dead fetus 560 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 4: in our because some men don't actually even understand how 561 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 4: the women's reproductive systems work. 562 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 3: And I have been on multiple call in shows in my. 563 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 4: Time as a politician talking about these issues. When I 564 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 4: would get callers and I would be so it was 565 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 4: so clear to me they didn't understand women's bodies, and 566 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 4: ultimately they believed it was the woman's responsibility to manage 567 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 4: whether they got pregnant or not. And you know, and 568 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 4: since we're you know, we're being real with each other. 569 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 4: One of the things that I would say to constituents 570 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 4: if it was a male caller saying it was all 571 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 4: the women's responsibility, I would ask them straight up on 572 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 4: live radio, have you always used protection when you had sex? 573 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 3: And they would sort of you know, well. 574 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, for real, like if you are 575 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 4: policing my body, let me reflect back to you know, 576 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 4: a logical conclusion there, And we have to have full 577 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 4: roaded allies in this. And yes, women need to show 578 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 4: up at the ballot box on mass this November. 579 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 3: But dan it, we need our allies. 580 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 4: We need all of the people who love and support 581 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 4: the folks that will be impacted and are impacted by 582 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 4: these laws to stand up and to not make women 583 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 4: have to once again do the work that benefits all 584 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 4: of us. 585 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's funny because it's like, I think so 586 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: much about when SBA passed and everyone was saying, me, 587 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 1: you're crazy, this is not going to be the end 588 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: of Row. And even when Roe was overturned, you had 589 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 1: people like Rich Lowry and Sarah Igris Flores writing abeds 590 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: saying that Roe was baked in voters don't care about Row, 591 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: And I mean, how much do women have to die 592 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: before anyone gives a shit about them? And it really is, 593 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, we're half the population here. Guys like so 594 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: crazy and just infuriate into me. 595 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 4: It is, it's infuriating, and we have to turn that 596 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 4: fury and that anger into action because, as I said, 597 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 4: we know the playbook, we understand what it is that 598 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 4: they're trying to to do, and I strongly believe that 599 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 4: it is absolutely about controlling women's bodies and their minds. 600 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 3: Our ability to vote. 601 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 4: These folks are not trustworthy partners in government. 602 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: Okay, that's the understandment of the year, right. 603 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting though, as you say that, they say, oh, 604 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 4: Roe is not going to be overturned. I got that 605 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 4: as well when we were codifying it in our statute 606 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 4: in Vermont and in our Constitution. I definitely heard that 607 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 4: you are reacting. You're hysterical, you're over the top. This 608 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 4: isn't going to happen. And here we are not just 609 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 4: with Roe overturned, but with these sick conservative attorneys trying 610 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 4: to bring back into play one hundred and fifty year 611 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 4: old misogynistic law. 612 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 3: It is a desperate attempt to try to control us. 613 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 3: Can't let them. 614 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. 615 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 3: Really appreciate you, Oh appreciate you. 616 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: Whitney Fox is a candidate in Florida's thirteenth congressional distract. 617 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: Become to Fast Politics. Whitney Fox, thank. 618 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 3: You so much for having me, Mollie, happy to be here. 619 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: So tell me what district are you running in and 620 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about your race. 621 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 6: Sure, yes, I'm running in Florida's thirteenth congressional district. It's 622 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 6: the Saint Petersburg Clearwater area of Florida, and I'm running 623 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 6: against Anna Paulina Luna, who you might know. 624 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 3: As a podcast. 625 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: Yes, tell us a little bit about what your district 626 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: is like. 627 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 6: Sure, So my district is a very moderate, pragmatic district. 628 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 6: It's Charlie Chris Old seat previously. 629 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: Wow. 630 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 3: A third of our voters are independence and a lot of. 631 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 6: Our district they really pride themselves on their independence here 632 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 6: in Nllis County. So it's a great little place here 633 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 6: in Florida, and they are fired up and ready for November. 634 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 3: Let me tell you that. 635 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: Anna Paulina Luna, I think of her like Marjorie Taylor Green, 636 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: but not as famous. 637 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 3: Right, That's exactly right. 638 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 6: And it's interesting because this is not a Marjorie Taylor 639 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 6: Green or Matt Gates district, Molly. This is a like 640 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 6: I said, very moderate district of thoughtful voters and they 641 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 6: are eager for new leadership. They are shocked that Luna one. 642 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: How did they lack that person? 643 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 3: Yes, you might know. 644 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 6: Twenty twenty two was a rough year across the board 645 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 6: in Florida. I mean, voter turnout was quite low and 646 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 6: for Democrats it was it was a pretty tough year, 647 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 6: so that she won with just fifty three percent of 648 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 6: the vote in twenty twenty two. 649 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 3: So for her, this is her first term in office. 650 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: She's done a lot of crazy stuff. Talk to me 651 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: about sort of her a little bit about sort of 652 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: what she's famous for. 653 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 6: Yes, well, I think that she's most famous for really 654 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 6: being focused on chasing culture war headlines, and you know, 655 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 6: then she is addressing everyday issues of Americans. 656 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 3: She's concentrated on you foes. 657 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 6: She's written a children's book about how the election was stolen, 658 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 6: So I mean it was, you know, a children's book, 659 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 6: like a banana that looks like Biden and an oran 660 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 6: that looks like Trump, and the banana cheats to win 661 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 6: a foot race. 662 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 3: So these are the tides. 663 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 6: Of things she is concentrating on, I mean, And every 664 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 6: chance she gets, she's calling to defund government agencies whenever 665 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 6: they don't give her what she wants. She tries to 666 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 6: shut down the government every chance she gets. Impeachment's ousting 667 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 6: any speaker if they have a conversation with a Democrat. 668 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 6: So she's just in DC, causing chaos and doing nothing 669 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 6: for her constituents, which is part of the reason why 670 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 6: I'm running. 671 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: What is your story in Florida and how did you 672 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: get there? 673 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 6: Well, I was born and raised here in the Tampa 674 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 6: Bay Area. This is where I grew up. I'm now 675 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 6: raising two little girls of my own, a four year 676 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 6: old and a two year old, and my parents live here. 677 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 6: And I've been working for our district and public transportation. 678 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 6: Most recently so I was the director of Communications and 679 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 6: marketing and working on legislative priorities at our Panela Sun 680 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,919 Speaker 6: Coast Transit Authority. And you know, really seeing the people 681 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 6: who rely on public transportation and how it connects us 682 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 6: to everything from affordable housing and food of course, are 683 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 6: to jobs or medical appointments, and really a lot of 684 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 6: people are struggling here in the district. But what really 685 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 6: fired me to run for office was, I'll be very 686 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 6: honest with you, was having a baby. The medical bills, 687 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 6: the lack of paid parntal leave, the lack of affordable childcare. 688 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe that. 689 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 6: This is how we start families in America and that 690 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 6: we aren't in the streets screaming about it. Because I 691 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 6: think it's so important that we care for people from 692 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,280 Speaker 6: the very start. And you know, so many other countries 693 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 6: have figured out how to take better care of their people, 694 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 6: and I think that we could be doing a much 695 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 6: better job. 696 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: What would that look like in your mind? 697 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 6: I think it really starts with focusing on the issues 698 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 6: that people care about, right, like the affordability crisis that 699 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 6: we're facing here, especially in Florida are. 700 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 3: I mean, our inflation. 701 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 6: Is two times higher than the rest of the country, 702 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,919 Speaker 6: and people are really struggling with skyrocketing insurance and you know, 703 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 6: not finding affordable housing. So I think that that's something 704 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 6: that we definitely need to address. You know, I think 705 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 6: about when I grew up also, I remember, you know, 706 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 6: I was raised by my single mother here in Tampa Bay, 707 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 6: and we used to kind of every Sunday, we have 708 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 6: an activity of clipping coupons out of the Sunday paper 709 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 6: and organizing them in her coupon box before we'd go 710 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 6: grocery shopping. And I know what it's like to grow 711 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 6: up with, you know, a single mother and making sure 712 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 6: that we're making ends meet. And I know that a 713 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 6: lot of families are struggling with that today as well. 714 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 6: And even more so, we also have a lot of 715 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 6: seniors in our district and they're scared of losing their 716 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 6: Social Security and Medicare and worried about boarding prescription drugs 717 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 6: and especially on their fixed incomes. But really it's just 718 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,240 Speaker 6: a we're focusing on taking care of people, and people 719 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 6: are tired of the polarizing politics and they just want 720 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 6: a functioning government so that they can make, you know, 721 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 6: put food on the table, roof over their head, and 722 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,439 Speaker 6: work one job and you know, get their basic needs met. 723 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 6: And I think that of course, a big one for 724 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 6: us is it's going to be fighting for reproductive rights. 725 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 6: I mean, that's a. 726 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 3: Huge issue here in Florida. 727 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 6: As I'm sure you're well aware with everything that's going 728 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 6: on in the state of Florida with when it comes 729 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 6: to abortion and the new six week band that's going 730 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 6: to be going into effect and the ballot measure that's 731 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 6: going to be on you know, on the ballot this November. 732 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,839 Speaker 6: That's going to be a big point that we're talking 733 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 6: about on this race. 734 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: You have a maga governor who has really not spent 735 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: much time worrying about what's happening in Florida because he's 736 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: been busy trying to run for president. Now that dream 737 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: is dead. You have inflationary problems you have. Your insurance 738 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: premiums are crazy. Talk to me about the flood insurance 739 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: climate staff in your state. 740 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 6: That's probably one of the number one issues that we're 741 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 6: hearing about when it comes to insurance. I mean, everyone's 742 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 6: feeling that it's a huge issue in Florida and people 743 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 6: are struggling, and I know that that's something that we 744 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 6: are A lot of people will say, oh, that's an 745 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 6: issue that's going to be addressed or needs to be 746 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 6: addressed at a state level, but we're not taking that 747 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 6: as an answer. We are looking into what can be 748 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 6: done at a federal level and what actions can we 749 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 6: take to help people, whether that's making sure that they 750 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 6: have proper incentives to make upgrades to their homes and 751 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 6: really investing in infrastructure right because we want to make 752 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 6: sure that we are investing in the right infrastructure to 753 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,240 Speaker 6: make sure that when these storms hit, when hurricanes even comes, 754 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 6: that people are prepared, that our infrastructure is prepared. One 755 00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 6: dollar spent in prevention is we're fixed dollar and recovery. 756 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 6: So instead of waiting until a storm hits or where 757 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 6: there's flooding and you know, fixing it afterwards, we need 758 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 6: to make sure that we're putting the proper things in 759 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 6: place beforehand to be prepared for those types of things. 760 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: So one of the major conversations that everyone has been 761 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 1: having with me, the sort of like annoying behind the 762 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: scenes conversation that people keep having, is people in the 763 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: pundent industrial complex keep saying Florida does not really imply. 764 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,760 Speaker 1: It's nice that Biden thinks Florida's employed, but he doesn't 765 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: really think for Florida's implay. So is Florida implay? 766 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,439 Speaker 6: Well, I definitely think it is, especially I mean even 767 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 6: before the ballot measure, but now even more so, I 768 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 6: mean our race specifically with you know, Anna Pauline A 769 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 6: Luna in District thirteen. We know that this is the 770 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 6: most flippable congressional seat in the state of Florida, and 771 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 6: it's because of how extreme Anna Pauline Aluna is and 772 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 6: that is not aligned at all with the people here 773 00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 6: in this district. 774 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 3: And we know that people are. 775 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 6: Just tired of the red versus Blue, the Democrat versus Republican, 776 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 6: and they want a functioning government and things have just 777 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 6: gone too far in Florida and too extreme. And thinking 778 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 6: about the fact that Anna Paulina Luna supports a national 779 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 6: abortion ban without exceptions of rape, invest or life of 780 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,280 Speaker 6: the mother, that she has these extreme stances of wanting 781 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,240 Speaker 6: to shut down the government focusing on all these other issues. 782 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 1: That bring back family separation right exactly. 783 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 6: So we know that a lot of people are feeling 784 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 6: that it's just gotten too extreme. I mean I have 785 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 6: moderate Republicans in our district reaching out to. 786 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 3: Me saying, what can I do to help you? She 787 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 3: has got to go. 788 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 6: So we think that it's very true that things have 789 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 6: just gotten too extreme in Florida and people are tired 790 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 6: of it. 791 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 1: Clardik was sort of known as a safe haven for 792 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: abortion in the South. Really do you think now you 793 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: have a six week fan and you're as extreme as 794 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: any other Southern state? I mean you as a Florida resident, 795 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: someone who grew up there. I mean, are people kind 796 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: of shocked by that? 797 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 4: Well? 798 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,320 Speaker 6: Yes, well, and I think my heart is broken for 799 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 6: what this is going to do for. 800 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,760 Speaker 3: Women, for families. I mean this is huge. 801 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 6: I mean recently I volunteered as an escort at a 802 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 6: women's clinic, escorting women from their cars to the clinic. 803 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 6: And they need these escorts because there are protesters who 804 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 6: are just shouting the most violent things at these poor 805 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 6: women as they are looking for just contraception or a 806 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 6: well women visitor, reproductive healthcare. And a lot of the 807 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 6: women I escorted were from outside of Florida, were from 808 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 6: neighboring states. And to think that now Florida is joining 809 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 6: in these neighboring states and that there is no access 810 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 6: anywhere in the southeast of the country, this is dire. 811 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 3: Women will die, I mean, doctors will leave the state. 812 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 6: There will be a chilling effect on women seeking medical 813 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 6: help for SEE related issues. And then what's next, Florida 814 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 6: will be investigating miscarriages as potential felonies. 815 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: Well, that's happened in Ohio. I mean remember the Brittany 816 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: Watts case where Brittany was actually had to sit and 817 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 1: wait to find out if she was going to be 818 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: indicted for what was it called mishandling a corpse and 819 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:23,240 Speaker 1: she had gone to the hospital twice for this miscarriage. 820 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 1: I mean, these are women having miscarriages being arrested. 821 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 6: It's terrifying because I mean I myself had a miscarriage 822 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 6: and it was a frightening experience. 823 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,919 Speaker 1: I mean mine, Yes, yeah, if you're over the age 824 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: of thirty and you're trying to get pregnant, you know 825 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,879 Speaker 1: you're more likely. I mean, yeah, go. 826 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 6: On, Well, good for you to go through that emotional 827 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 6: roller coaster and that you know, traumatizing experience of having 828 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 6: a miscarriage and now having to be afraid of, you know, 829 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 6: obviously a third degree felony if they're going to investigate you, 830 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 6: if they think it could have been an abortion or 831 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 6: not seeking the care that you need. It's heartbreaking to 832 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 6: think that women will be afraid to seek the care 833 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,760 Speaker 6: that they need if they do have a miscarriage. 834 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: It's just completely disturbing. So what are you hearing from voters? 835 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: What are they saying? What's your sounds? 836 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,479 Speaker 6: Most of the voters that we are talking to, whether 837 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 6: they are Democrat, independent, Republican, they believe that women should 838 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:26,240 Speaker 6: have the freedom to make these decisions themselves without government overreach. 839 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 6: I mean, the people in my district feel very strongly 840 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,880 Speaker 6: that government should not be reaching into this issue. They 841 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 6: should not be in their bedrooms, they should not be 842 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 6: in the doctor's offices, and they are fired up and 843 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 6: they are ready to go to war because I mean, 844 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 6: I have had many conversations with older women who've said, we've. 845 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,240 Speaker 3: Already fought this fight. We thought this was settled. 846 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 6: We know what it's like to not have access to 847 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 6: reproductive health care. 848 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 3: We're not going through that again. 849 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,760 Speaker 6: And they are very fired up. And then of course 850 00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 6: we have many people who are upset about all the 851 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,359 Speaker 6: issues about IBF as well. I mean people who are 852 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 6: struggling to have families and want to go to process. 853 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 6: I mean, that's really raised a lot of eyebrows with 854 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,399 Speaker 6: especially moderate Republican women who are very upset about what's 855 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 6: happening with that, you know, not potentially having access to IBF. 856 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a legislative thing that could have also 857 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 1: been avoided. But I think what's so interesting about that 858 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: one is that you had Republicans, you know, they had 859 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 1: this quest for embryonic personhood and they had been working 860 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 1: behind the scenes to do this for a while. Like 861 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: with so many of these reproductive health laws that Republicans 862 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 1: have passed, they're so badly thought out. Like IVY is 863 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 1: an enormous business, right, Doctors make a lot of money. 864 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: It's super expensive. Yeah, what did they when they you know, 865 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 1: they closed down They end up closing down all the 866 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 1: iView clinics in Alabama, right, because nobody put together that 867 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 1: embryonic personhood would then shut down IVF. And furthermore, like 868 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,240 Speaker 1: when they legislated it, they just decided they would indemnify 869 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: the clinics instead of actually creating you know, some kind 870 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: I mean, like is this there are still very much 871 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: on this embryonic personhood gig right. 872 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 6: Right well, and like you said, I mean, all of 873 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 6: this is just unnecessary and could have been avoided. I mean, 874 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,359 Speaker 6: it's the natural consequence of you know, life begins at 875 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 6: conception laws, and they just didn't care what the consequences were. 876 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 6: And I think that especially with the Republican Study Committee's 877 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,879 Speaker 6: budget that they just put out, I mean, which Ana 878 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,399 Speaker 6: Paul Lena Luna is obviously a. 879 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: Part of eighty percent of the Republicans. 880 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, so, I mean, which endorses legislation that would threaten 881 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 6: IVF nationwide and backs the Life at Conception Act granting 882 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 6: will rights to like you said, to embryos from the 883 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 6: moment of fertilization. So it's terrifying what it is, and 884 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 6: we have a lot to fight for. And trust me, 885 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,319 Speaker 6: this is a These are bipartisan issues that people feel 886 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 6: very strongly about in my district. Especially you know, having 887 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 6: these conversations with both women and men and families, and 888 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,799 Speaker 6: the story that I've heard and that they've told me, 889 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,879 Speaker 6: it's heartbreaking and they are scared, especially with the six 890 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 6: week band going into effect and you know, become. 891 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 1: All all of this. 892 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,240 Speaker 6: I mean, Florida is now the primary battleground for abortion 893 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 6: rights here in America, especially being the third largest state. 894 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean that's the other thing I think with 895 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: this abortion ban is that the numbers in Florida, I 896 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 1: mean are humongous. So now you'll have women and all 897 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 1: of these southern states who will have you know, miles 898 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 1: and miles and miles. I'm wondering, what are you doing. 899 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,359 Speaker 1: You're talking to people in your district. You're out there, 900 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 1: You're doing town halls. Tell me how you're campaigning. 901 00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 6: Yes, I mean we are talking. We're going to different 902 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 6: community events, of course, talking to voters. And one thing 903 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 6: that is really important to me, especially you know, being 904 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,399 Speaker 6: a mom of two little ones, is meeting voters where 905 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 6: they are and we are even you know, going to 906 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 6: playgrounds to talk to families and having playground meetups. We're doing, 907 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 6: you know, going to different community events and organizational events 908 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 6: to make sure that we are out talking to voters. 909 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,920 Speaker 6: We're having even a mother's Day event where we're saying, 910 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 6: come and you know, we'll have activities for your spouse 911 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 6: and the. 912 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 3: Kids while you come. Come in and hang out and have. 913 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,959 Speaker 6: You know, a relaxing mother's day, and we'll talk about 914 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 6: the issues. There's not really not been much of a focus, 915 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 6: especially from a mother's perspective, I think in Congress. I mean, 916 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,399 Speaker 6: I recently learned that I think it's less than seven 917 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,320 Speaker 6: percent of members of Congress or mother's with young children. 918 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,799 Speaker 6: So I'm making sure that we are tapping into these 919 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,880 Speaker 6: different voters that maybe don't get a chance to have 920 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 6: their voices heard or have these conversations. So definitely making 921 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 6: sure that we are getting out to speak with the 922 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 6: people in the district and hear what issues are most 923 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 6: concerning to them. 924 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's really a good point. I mean, 925 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 1: this is a flippable seat, and Florida's a different state 926 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 1: than it was two years ago or four years ago. 927 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 3: It truly is. 928 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 6: And I think that that's what's so interesting, you know 929 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,879 Speaker 6: about this race, is because a lot of people are 930 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 6: feeling hopeless this election year, and then they are having 931 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 6: a hard time knowing what they can do and feeling 932 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 6: all they can do is vote. But our race, we 933 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 6: are getting a lot of feedback that people are saying 934 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 6: that we are inspiring hope, and this is a race 935 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 6: where you can actually make a difference by you know, 936 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 6: supporting our race, supporting my candidacy, or this being not 937 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 6: just the most livable seat in the state of Florida, 938 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 6: but our shot of getting a one of the most 939 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 6: conservative far right extremists and Freedom Caucus members out of Congress. 940 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 6: So you know, investing in a race like ours can 941 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 6: actually make it a difference and supporting us and people 942 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 6: of lives, especially on these issues like abortion when Anna 943 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 6: Pauline de Luna is the supporter of a national abortion band. 944 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Whitney Fox. 945 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 3: Of course, thank you so much for the time. I 946 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 3: really appreciate it. 947 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:22,240 Speaker 1: Molly No Moment, Jesse Cannon, Molly John Fast. 948 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 7: We often joke about how the MAGA people say the 949 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 7: choi a part out loud that they shouldn't be saying. 950 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 7: But then what it's funny is when the MAGA people 951 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 7: have their Venn diagram overlap with the RFK people because 952 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,280 Speaker 7: they are one in the same. 953 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 1: RFK is New York. I don't know she works for 954 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 1: his campaign. 955 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:40,240 Speaker 7: She's a ballad expert. 956 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,919 Speaker 1: Oh even better, and she has said she has said 957 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,839 Speaker 1: the choir part loud. She said that basically the only 958 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 1: reason he's running is to make Biden lose. These people 959 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:56,319 Speaker 1: are not smart, and thank god they're not, because this 960 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,839 Speaker 1: is one of the most important elections, probably the most 961 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 1: important election we'll ever and they're not smartness. They're saying 962 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,399 Speaker 1: the quiet part loud is our moment of fuck right. 963 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 1: That's it for this episode of Fast Politics. Tune in 964 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,240 Speaker 1: every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday to hear the best minds 965 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,440 Speaker 1: in politics makes sense of all this chaos. If you 966 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 1: enjoyed what you've heard, please send it to a friend 967 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,880 Speaker 1: and keep the conversation going. And again, thanks for listening.