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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour. In this Wednesday, our good buddy

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Speaker 1: Marcellus Wiley, former NFL Pro Bowl defensive end now star

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Speaker 1: with Fox Sports, got a podcast. We'll talk about that.

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Speaker 1: He'll join us coming up a little bit. We'll also

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Speaker 1: talk about what it's like to be an edge rusher

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Speaker 1: and trying to sack a quarterback. Now, Phillies Braves coming

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Speaker 1: up this afternoon. Padres Dodgers Tonight Phillies Astro's Yankees Dodgers

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Speaker 1: all win. Draymond Green is back. He'll play on Friday.

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Speaker 1: No suspension. He is being fined for the punch on

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Speaker 1: Jordan Pool, but no real dollar signs attached to that,

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Speaker 1: at least not yet. The NFL is quiet on Davante Adams.

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Speaker 1: There is a police report the person who was on

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Speaker 1: the sidelines was pushed knocked down by Davante Adams. They

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Speaker 1: did say didn't suffer life threatening injuries. I'm thinking I

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Speaker 1: must have missed something when he fell. But you know,

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Speaker 1: did he bang his elbow? Did he you know, what

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Speaker 1: kind of injuries did he suffer? But Davante Adams, the

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Speaker 1: NFL is looking into that also. It's been a little quiet,

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Speaker 1: and here it is a Wednesday, and the NFL likes

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Speaker 1: things to go away. They sort of wait, they want

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Speaker 1: to wait, what the reaction is any noise over here?

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Speaker 1: Anybody saying anything about sacking quarterbacks? Okay, it seemed to

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Speaker 1: be okay, can we move on? But this is an overreaction.

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Speaker 1: But I was told it was going to be an overreaction,

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Speaker 1: so I'm not surprised. I guess when you still look

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Speaker 1: at some of these sacks and you go, what's the

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Speaker 1: defensive players supposed to do? And I think that's going

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Speaker 1: to be interesting when we talk to Marcellus Wiley, what

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Speaker 1: do you do to make the game safe, but also

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Speaker 1: you keep the integrity, you can make it fair. That's

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Speaker 1: my podcast network. It's called Running Smoke and I'll give

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Speaker 1: you just the cliff notes version. The first ever indigenous

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Speaker 1: person to race in NASCAR NASCAR Cup series. His name

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Speaker 1: was Derek White, and that's interesting enough, but he was

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Speaker 1: also arrested in Canada largest police operation selling tobacco and

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Speaker 1: he believes it's his native right, shouldn't be facing you know,

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Speaker 1: have to pay taxes there. So it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: big deal that's going on every Wednesday. Derek fights for

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Speaker 1: his innocence. It's called running smoke. Now wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your podcast or on Dan Patrick dot com. So very

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Speaker 1: proud of that. You get an opportunity. You're a podcast person. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's each episodes around, you know, twenty twenty minutes or so,

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Speaker 1: all right, pull question for the final hour Seaton damn

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Speaker 1: an hour two had just an absolute landslide. Draymond Green's

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Speaker 1: punishment was fair or non existent? It's ninety one percent

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Speaker 1: non existent, Okay, that is, if it happened in a game,

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Speaker 1: then he's down for at least a game. I think

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Speaker 1: that's what people are having a hard time reconciling, is

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Speaker 1: that if it happened in a game, he would get

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Speaker 1: set down. If it happened anywhere in other any other

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Speaker 1: form of employment, he would at least be fired, Yes,

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Speaker 1: at least at the bare minimum. Yeah, And this was like, well,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a fine and just apologize to the guys,

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Speaker 1: talk walk work through it. And the NFL didn't have

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Speaker 1: jurisdiction over Aaron Donald when he got into the helmet

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Speaker 1: swinging incident. Undisclosed. Fine for Aaron Donald and then it

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Speaker 1: goes away. But at least, you know, if football is

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Speaker 1: a is obviously a physical sport. You're like battling another person,

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Speaker 1: you know, and there's a certain intensity there. This was

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Speaker 1: just two dudes talking trash that went way too far

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Speaker 1: and their teammates. Yeah, and their teammates. That's that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Steve Kerr, Warriors head coach, on Jordan Pool and Draymond

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Speaker 1: Green talking this out. Jordan obviously had to be involved

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Speaker 1: in this, and the players have been doing a lot

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Speaker 1: move forward. And so after this entire week of of

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Speaker 1: of everything and just assessing everything, this feels right. I'd

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Speaker 1: love to hear from Steph Curry. I'd love to hear

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Speaker 1: from Jordan Pool, but it's Steph's team. He's still, you know,

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Speaker 1: And if you can get eighteen points from somebody who's

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna guess he doesn't want to sign him

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Speaker 1: want to sign him up for that kind of money. Yeah, Pull,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm most famous fascinated with the Warriors is

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Speaker 1: James Wiseman. It feels like he's not even in the league.

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Speaker 1: League and he's rehabbing. The guy's twenty one years old.

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Speaker 1: remember they were fifty wins, sixty thirteen wins, and they

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Speaker 1: But it's it's it's hard to really handicap somebody when

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Speaker 1: a good player, he's just smart player. And I've been

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Speaker 1: He already is. But I thought, if you had him

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Speaker 1: just don't know if they're next level or they take

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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, Golden State, you know,

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Speaker 1: Steph was the only guy that was really somebody on

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Speaker 1: I remember watching Draymond at Michigan State and it just

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Speaker 1: James Wiseman. Steph was top ten, but play I knew

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Speaker 1: calls in here, Phill in New York. I Phil, what's

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Speaker 1: on your mind? Hello Danny. Two things. If someone flips

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Speaker 1: heartiest My father in law just told a joke. Laugh

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Speaker 1: Guaranteed win every time. Well, you know, Seaton had one

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Speaker 1: And the dude he came pulled up next to me.

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Speaker 1: But I see why they did it. He got bailed

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Speaker 1: out because the ball came loose on the strip. And

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Speaker 1: since the ball came loose, then all bets are off

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Speaker 1: or I'm just landing on him because the ball is

425
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Speaker 1: coming out underneath him. But before even the ball came out,

426
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: Chris Jones about to lift that dude and DDTM and

427
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: they saw that quarterbacks, certain quarterbacks preferential treatment absolutely like

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Speaker 1: on certain teams, no matter who you are, you're gonna

429
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Speaker 1: get that preferential treatment. It's the pecking order, it's the

430
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Speaker 1: way it's supposed to be. The strong having problem with

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Speaker 1: that that Brady and Rogers and Mahomes are gonna get

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Speaker 1: preferential treatment. You know, Derek Carr hasn't earned that. Certain

433
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Speaker 1: quarterback Josh Allen's gonna get preferential treatment, justin Herbert probably

434
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. You're okay with that as a defenship player, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's the dynamics of the game, that's the

436
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Speaker 1: dynamics of life. Look, Aaron Donald gets preferential treatment. He's

437
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Speaker 1: ad tackle. If you're the man, they're gonna show you love.

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00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: It's just as simple as that. I was a defensive

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Speaker 1: end and I got preferential treatment at the time. Look,

440
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Speaker 1: if you're the man in your locker room, you just

441
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Speaker 1: walk around and your joke is not even funny and

442
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: they're laughing, But you're not the man. You could be

443
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Speaker 1: Eddie Murcery up there and nobody gonna get That's how

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00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 1: the game works. And it's the same on the field.

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00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: It's not just the quarterback. It's who you are and

446
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Speaker 1: your impact not only on the game but on the

447
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: bottom line. So yeah, give him their love. And Micah

448
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: Parsons has elevated himself into that. Like when you you

449
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Speaker 1: say who changes a game? Like, how many players truly

450
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Speaker 1: change a game? Micah Parsons is on the short list.

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Speaker 1: You could put Bossa in there. I guess I don't

452
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Speaker 1: know how many other Aaron Donald you can put him

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Speaker 1: in there. Miles Garrett I thought was going to be

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Speaker 1: that guy, but then mostly it's quarterbacks as well. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, where would you put Micah Parsons when it's

456
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Speaker 1: when it's MVP talk, not Defensive Player of the Year,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about MVP. Yeah, he's certainly Tier one and

458
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Speaker 1: you got to respect what he's doing because of how

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Speaker 1: difficult it is. I mean, it's one of the most

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Speaker 1: resistant paths in terms of making impact. Think about it,

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Speaker 1: There's five guys in front of you. They're all three

462
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: hundred plus pounds and they can move, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of times you get double teams, and even when you

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Speaker 1: are single teaming, you make that impact play. It's the

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Speaker 1: timing of that play that really has impact. As a

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Speaker 1: defensive end, quarterbacks are the ultimate because not only do

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Speaker 1: they get the yards, but they get the points, and

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Speaker 1: they control the time of possession and they control the

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Speaker 1: amount of possessions. I've seen quarterbacks when they throw for

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Speaker 1: four touchdowns plus they're gonna win ninety some percent of

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Speaker 1: those games. I've seen defensive ends when they get three

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Speaker 1: four sacks, they still lose, still get spanked. So as

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Speaker 1: much as I want to route with my bias as

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Speaker 1: being a defender, we don't make the same impact on

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Speaker 1: the game as those quarterbacks. How is a concussion protocol

476
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: changed over the years? WHOA one? There was no protocol

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Speaker 1: when I played. I swear she didn't have to lie

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Speaker 1: back then. No, no, no, we didn't even have to

479
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Speaker 1: lie because they didn't even ask the question to lie about.

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00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: It's so crazy, Dan like we used to call it

481
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: getting your bill wrung. Yeah, and that's it, Like concussion

482
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Speaker 1: was left for outside of football, outside of sports, like concussion,

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Speaker 1: what you mean, like if you got knocked out, that's

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Speaker 1: knocked out. Other than that, it was just getting your

485
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: bill wrung. So now listening to the guys in the protocol,

486
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Speaker 1: obviously it was a good protocol, but it's not a

487
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Speaker 1: perfect protocol because of the incentives. I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: If I were an active player right now, I would

489
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Speaker 1: be incentivized to make sure I never lost time because

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Speaker 1: of the concussion. And everyone's gonna tell me, oh, no,

491
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: your brain is different and you gotta take care of

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Speaker 1: yourself and life after football. But I'm not thinking that way.

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00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: I have a fine ite amount of time to make

494
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: this money, make these opportunities, and go out there and ball.

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Speaker 1: So in situations when it's concussion protocol, I am not

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Speaker 1: serving the doctors. I'm not serving the team. I am

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Speaker 1: self serving. Yeah, there's reasons why they're always going to

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Speaker 1: deceive because like Dan Orlovski, he said, if I was

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Speaker 1: twenty four, I'm gonna lie because I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I get back in the game again, and then you're

501
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: on the bench. He wasn't a marquee player. Here's two

502
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: of And that's what I didn't understand. If your back

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00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: seizes up like that, Marcellis the eye test means there's

504
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: something that really affected you. Maybe you didn't have a concussion.

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00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: I gotta sit you out. I gotta figure out what happened.

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Speaker 1: They just kept kind of pushing it off, going he

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00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: didn't have a concussion, Okay, but what did he have

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Speaker 1: that would force him to almost feel like, you know,

509
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: he just got hit by Buster Douglas. Yeah, but you

510
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: sound so logical, and you're sitting there in that nice

511
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: studio and that air conditioned studio in a different emotional

512
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: state than a player. In that moment, I have my

513
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: back sees up on me before and immediately I wanted

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Speaker 1: to continue to play. And immediately the doctor stepped in

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Speaker 1: and said, hey, we have to go through the proper

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Speaker 1: test to evaluate that. I'm not mad at ta if

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Speaker 1: he said it was my back and I want to

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Speaker 1: go back out there and play. Why Because he knows

519
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: he is a friend starter. He's the guy who's been

520
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: hanging on by tooth and nail and buy a thread

521
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: in that organization for whatever reason. They don't fully believe

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Speaker 1: in him, and he knows he can't step away let

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Speaker 1: somebody else get hot and then lose his job. The

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00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: Rams in trouble. Yeah, certainly they're in trouble. I mean, one,

525
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: they have the Super Bowl Championship fat and full going on,

526
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: where okay, everyone rubbed their bellies, and not only did

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Speaker 1: they get their belly rubbed, they're in Los Angeles getting

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Speaker 1: their belly rubbed as so Far stadium. So I think

529
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Speaker 1: that they're trying to get out of the bed with

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Speaker 1: the silk robes on, like Marvin Hagler once said, and

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Speaker 1: you could just see that they're just a little off

532
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: course and turn of their eyes on the prize. The

533
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: same appetite, the same hunger going through all those little things.

534
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: Plus Matthew Stafford doesn't look fully healthy. I talked to

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Speaker 1: him about a couple months ago and he said, look,

536
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: last year I wasn't healthy the entire year, and I

537
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: think even after the procedure this year, he doesn't look

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00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: fully healthy. Oh yeah, that Aaron's Robert good division with you,

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00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: and look forward to your podcast. It's called More to It.

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Speaker 1: Marcellis Wiley and available weekly on the Dan Patrick podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: Great to have you on board. Thank you, brother, Oh,

542
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Dan. Take care bub That's Marcellis Wiley.

543
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: We go back a long way with Marcellis. Right when

544
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: he joined the Right was he he went Bills then Chargers.

545
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: Right when he joined the Charger we started having him on. Yeah,

546
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: I remember Poli going, hey, we should have this guy,

547
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Speaker 1: Marcellis Wiley on and he goes he went to Columbia

548
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: and that's beat right, and Columbia football was you remember

549
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: how bad? Were horrible? He stood out? Yes, yeah, I

550
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: remember doing a story on them. I don't think Marcellus

551
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: was there when they had that losing streak. They had

552
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: the longest losing streak I think in college football. And

553
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: I was at CNN. So this is the early eighties,

554
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: and I remember going to a Columbia football game as

555
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: they might have broken the record of Northwestern or somebody.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the police report. So Davante Adams has

557
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: been charged with misdemeanor assault according to Kansas City Police.

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00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: I'll have more details on this as I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: the police reporter. Have that for you? Last call for

560
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: phone calls? What we learned, what's in store tomorrow? After this.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be

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Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until

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Speaker 1: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at

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Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. What

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Speaker 1: do you get when you combine a three time Manager

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Speaker 1: of the Year at a time National Sports Writer of

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Speaker 1: the Year. It's the Book of Joe Podcast. Hey, this

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Speaker 1: is Tom Berducci from Fox Sports, MLB Network and Sports Illustrated,

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00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: and I'm Joe Madden, and we're gonna be around to

571
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about manager real decisions, playoff games,

572
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: and what may have accredited to the dugout maybe in

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Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties. I can't wait for this, Joe. We're

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Speaker 1: going to dive into what goes on in the dugout

575
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: and behind the scenes in Major League Baseball, cars, wind

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Speaker 1: whatever else we want to talk about. Listen to the

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Speaker 1: Book of Joe Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, on Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Chris Collinsworth from Sunday

579
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: Night Football will join us on the program tomorrow. Brent

580
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: must Murder will also stop by as well. I like

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Speaker 1: that got some broadcast royalty here. You know, I just

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Speaker 1: went in the back room and I got a gift,

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Speaker 1: great gift, and it's going to be it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: proudly displayed in the man camp. Do you guys want

585
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Speaker 1: to play guest guest the gift that Dan gott. Can

586
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: we ask for hints? Yes, you can. Is it big

587
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 1: or small? That's what you said, Um, it is. It's

588
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: in the eye of the beholder. Is it a piece

589
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 1: of sports memorabilia, yes, guest Hud. Is it a sign

590
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: jersey of something? It is not. It is a sign

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00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: from a sports stadium. It is not. It's an item

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00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: of clothing. It is not. It has a piece of

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00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: clothing on it, Todd. My other guest was some type

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00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: of award trophy that once again you're gonna get in

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00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: trouble from borrowing and displaying. Okay, Um, is it from

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Speaker 1: one of your heroes or kind of a random person.

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00:34:51,160 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: It is not from a person. It's from a league, yes, Smart,

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00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: maybe a jersey or something from the Hall of Fame

599
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: Baseball Hall of Fame. No. Is it pickleball related? It

600
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: is not mac football like a Ohio Bobcats. No. No,

601
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: not something as nice as that the association. No, not

602
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: something from the NBA. It's from Major League Baseball? Is

603
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: it donuts? It is not don't like on a bat. No, yeah,

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00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: because every year the NHL sends us a big box

605
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: of donuts before the playoff. Yeah, it's great, the best.

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00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 1: It's a little bit nicer than that. Oh, it's very heavy.

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00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: It probably is thirty five forty pounds. Yes, time a

608
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: seat from a stadium. No, it has a small patch

609
00:35:54,000 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: a cloth. The little small patch on it. Um has

610
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: something that you could use any game on it. Spider tack. No,

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Speaker 1: Rosen Bank. Yeah, I put that on my ear. Thirty

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00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: five pound Rosenbank. Okay, I have made fun of this

613
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: in previous years. The Gold Glove Award, Yes it is.

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Speaker 1: I have the the upgraded gold glove is gorgeous. It is, Yes,

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00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: and no it's it's Rawlings. Um My good buddy Roman

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00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: who works at Rawlings, brought in the gold glove, gave

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Speaker 1: me a gold glove, got my name on it, got

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Speaker 1: my picture on it, and uh I will show it

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Speaker 1: to you Gold Glove recipient, damn pack Yes nice, yes, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well I did play a pretty main shortstop, you know,

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Speaker 1: growing up. But yeah, it's Uh. I've known the people

622
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: from Rawlings for a long long time and uh, they

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Speaker 1: they know that I was giving them grief and like

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Speaker 1: why is he why is he, you know, banging on

625
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: us here? And I think they realized that the gold

626
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: glove needed to be upgraded when we had Harold Reynolds

627
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: gold Glove in here and we all look like, you know,

628
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: maybe this is a kids project that you do for school. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this was one of the more disappointing things. God. I

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Speaker 1: was like, this is what they gave you, like an

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Speaker 1: unbelievable award. The gold glove had been hearing about all

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Speaker 1: my life and childhood, like he's a gold glover. Yeah, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: the old gold glove looked like a small wood base.

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Speaker 1: Somehow you put some duct tape down and held down

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Speaker 1: a mit a random mitya and then got some rustolium

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Speaker 1: and gold rostolium spray painted and said here you go,

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Speaker 1: Harold Reynolds. Yeah. I definitely put like macaroni on a

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Speaker 1: cigar box and it was the exact same thing. All right,

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Speaker 1: So I'll have that for you guys. Um Uh. Davante

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Speaker 1: Adams has been charged with misdemean or assault assault Paula.

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Speaker 1: You have the police report. It gives a lot of

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Speaker 1: details of time and who and where, but at the

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Speaker 1: bottom it says assault an intentional overt act inflicting bodily

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Speaker 1: injury and causing offense upon a person. The person was

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Speaker 1: to give the name. Pushed to the ground using two hands,

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Speaker 1: causing whiplash and headache and possible minor concussion. So that

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Speaker 1: brings in the medical side of it. Possible minor concussion.

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Speaker 1: Three things you cannot prove. I was gonna say, can

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Speaker 1: you prove whiplash? Can you prove that you have headaches?

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Speaker 1: You can't prove either way, Almost like it's it's gray

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Speaker 1: area there. It feels like, yes, time. Can we just

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Speaker 1: be thankful the victim didn't sustain life threatening injuries through

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Speaker 1: all this, because that's what I'm most Todd's been all

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Speaker 1: caught up in it, life threatening injuries. I've seen people

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Speaker 1: in much worse situations and that phrase was never used

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Speaker 1: in life. But I don't know, let me be fair,

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Speaker 1: Let me be fair. But if he did actually get hurt,

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Speaker 1: I at least have to have some logic, you know,

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Speaker 1: attached to this that could he have been hurt? It

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Speaker 1: didn't look like he was hurt, you know. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: compared to getting hit, you know, in a football game. Uh,

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Speaker 1: but I I don't know, yeh, you know, I've uh

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Speaker 1: you know, so I'm looking at the police report. So

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Speaker 1: I got at least be fair that you know, did

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Speaker 1: he get banged up a little bit? Yes, It's just

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Speaker 1: for me. It's like going to the police is such

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Speaker 1: a step. Filing a police report against somebody is a

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Speaker 1: is a very serious step to me. But I think

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to do that if you're gonna file,

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Speaker 1: you know, if your your insurance company would probably say

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Speaker 1: to do that. Like record now it's very clear that

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Speaker 1: it was with intention. Oh yeah, so that's happening to

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Speaker 1: Davante Adams. I don't know what the NFL does in

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Speaker 1: a situation like that. Uh. Let me see a dug

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Speaker 1: in North Carol lineh. Hi, Doug, welcome back. What do

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Speaker 1: you have for me? Well, I wanted to try to

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Speaker 1: answer your jackson the solid due question. Yeah, that you've

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Speaker 1: asked the last couple of days. I think it's the

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Speaker 1: James Dean phenomenon. I think it's Marilyn Monroe. For my generation,

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Speaker 1: it was Kurt Cobain. Kurt Cobain would be nothing special

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Speaker 1: if he was middle aged performing in Vegas every day.

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Speaker 1: I think simply put both Jackson's career to an outlive

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Speaker 1: the fantasy, so he's become a mess. Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 1: I did an interview with first time I met him,

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Speaker 1: he had just won the Heisman, and I'm in New

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Speaker 1: CNN and he had a speech impediment at the time.

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Speaker 1: And I've since subsequently played golf with him. That's an

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Speaker 1: interesting trip when you see Bo play golf. He putted

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Speaker 1: one handed, and I played with Jim McMahon and Bo

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Speaker 1: Jackson talk about, you know, opposites when it comes to

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Speaker 1: impressive athlete. Yeah, but but bow was he went after

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Speaker 1: it when we're playing golf. But but I met him

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Speaker 1: the first time. He had just won the Heisman, and

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Speaker 1: he was shy and and it's one of those where

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Speaker 1: you see him on the football field and there's nothing

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Speaker 1: shy about him. But that that was the first time

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Speaker 1: I met him. Yes, toime, did McMahon have the Roselle

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Speaker 1: headband on when you're playing call? He did not time. Yes, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't planning on getting into a fist fight today.

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Speaker 1: But if Doug in North Carolina has got more comments

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Speaker 1: about Kirk obeying, we could do that. Wow. Wow, Yeah

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Speaker 1: I said it this Dan, this day in sports history, Paul, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just a random one, No big deal. Nineteen eighty six,

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Speaker 1: Walter Payton of the Bears became the first like the

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Speaker 1: he's the greatest ever. There you go, Dan, Walter Payton, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm on hold over. Uh. Nineteen seventy nine, Walter Payton

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Speaker 1: No big deal, And Moredeca three fingers Brown pitched a

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