WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Whole Lot Shakin’ 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:05.680 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:07.320 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:10.480 Cowboys. 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:13.920 This is Mick. 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:18.520 Shot screaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:19.880 Dallas Cowboys at. 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:28.320 It's time for another edition of mix Shots. Bill Jones, 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:32.680 Savanna Humoler and Mickey Spagnola and the Zamboni. It joined 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:39.360 you live from Oxnard, California, the corner of Ventura and vintage. 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:44.040 And what a vintage day this is here in southern California. 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:46.720 This is gonna be a great day. It's already warmed up, 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:50.800 the sun's out, there's no marine later. This is gonna 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:53.080 be the hottest day of training camp. 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:53.760 It is. 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.760 And we're gonna start off the show with a Savannah 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:03.200 sighting this morning on the bright sunshiny day. Savannah, what 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:04.600 did you see this morning? 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.639 Just early this morning, I spotted the one and only 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:15.720 Mickey Spagnola in the breakfast room overpore his cheerios. 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:21.000 It's look, it's the most cumbersome container you've ever dealt with. 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:24.840 Hey, you know what, it's Friday. We can only go 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:25.720 up from here. 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.480 You were off to a slow start this morning the curios, 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:29.200 but we're back. 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:32.200 My cup runneth over. 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:38.440 So how many cheerios were wasted on the floor. 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:42.160 A half a half a bowl? No, not on the floor, 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:42.839 on the counter. 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:44.840 So did you scoop him up, put them back in 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:46.600 your bowler? Did you put them back in. 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:49.120 The cham in a separate bowl? But I was taken 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:51.040 in my room and I ate both bowls. 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:58.680 Can't waste the breakfrystal champions, that's right, And they were 0:01:58.720 --> 0:01:59.920 good too, I bet they. 0:01:59.920 --> 0:02:01.520 Well, you got to work out it, so we had 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:03.360 to make sure he got got his. 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:08.160 There's this container like this, and it's this way. You 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:11.080 push the back lid and it opens up this way, 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.440 and then you got a pour. Well, the thing was 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:17.240 just chalk full. So and I turned it over. 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:21.840 It just exploded. And then you've got so many cheerios 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:24.400 in your bowl that when you pour the milk on it, 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.040 it won't even go inside. 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:27.520 It just surfs. 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.280 It just surfs outside the mess with the milk. 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.160 No one would have said anything, but Savannah was standing 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:35.119 there laughing. 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:36.400 Hey. 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:38.560 I asked if you were good, if you needed help there, 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:41.799 but you you had it all together, so we're fine. 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:44.680 Well there it is the first Savannahs sighting of this 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:46.919 beautiful Friday here in Oxnard. 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.320 You can almost go on short sleeves this morning. I 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:52.880 am that's good. 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:56.360 What's the headline of the day. What do you think 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:58.280 a headline. 0:02:57.760 --> 0:02:58.200 Of the day? 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:01.560 I think, uh, one of them. 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:03.440 And then I'll tell you what really is the head. 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:07.280 Well, you got to talk to Dak, Is that right? 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.280 I did seeing we didn't get to do that. 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:11.840 Yeah, we need all the details. 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:16.240 Bill, we got, Michael Parsons, Mike Zimmer, Brian Schottenheimer. 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.919 I'll tell you you got a lot of any of 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:20.400 us got. 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:23.880 I feel like there's a few headlines. 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:27.000 I'm gonna start with the we have two edge rushers 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:27.680 that were added. 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.120 Okay, dive into that. On the show. 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:34.079 We got a lecture on the new kickoff rule from 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:38.960 John Fossils, which was very informative, and we saw it 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:43.920 somewhat in action last night. Neither team wanted to show 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:49.200 exactly what they might do during the games. And then uh, yeah, 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.840 Michael Parsons, he went on and on and on talking 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:57.400 about how he's gonna be used in multiple. 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:58.560 Different Wakay, we'll get into all that. 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.680 We'll get those are the headline, But. 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:04.960 Here is the true headline of the day, a federal 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:09.560 judge has overturned the four point seven billion dollar NFL's 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.440 Sunday ticket verdict. It takes the NFL off the hook 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:17.040 for enormous damages. Does he tell you that is a 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:21.599 win for Jerry Jones? It's a win for the contract 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:23.440 negotiations between. 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.640 Because he doesn't have to worry about and Dak. 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:30.480 Prescott to win for the win for the players, that's right, 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:33.640 Producers Supreme. You can't hear him over the zamboni, but 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:38.280 Producer Supreme over there. Many yell for the players on that. 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.800 But well it won't affect a salary cap right the 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:44.040 way they were worried. 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:49.400 And that's exactly what last Saturday morning Jerry, when we 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:53.120 cornered him after he was signing autographs after the welcome 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.560 ceremony here, the opening ceremony of camp. That was one 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.200 of the things that was definitely on his mind. 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:03.040 And and here we go. So does that mean by 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:09.640 tomorrow for the unofficial Blue White Scrimmage that ceed Lamb 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:11.840 will be signed because now they don't have to worry 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.760 about losing billions of dollars. 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:15.880 Well, we hoped out. 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.800 To ask Jerry. We'll see, that'll be the question for 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:20.800 Jerry all right, corner him today. 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.160 I wanted to ask you, I. 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.599 Think it is. I think it's I mean, just from 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.000 the sounds of things, if you just look at the 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:32.119 lay of the land, then the quarterback signings around the league, 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:35.440 going back to last Friday, when Tuas signed, when Jordan 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:40.440 Love signed, those two were the last two quarterbacks other 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:44.400 than Dak, who were incumbent starting quarterbacks who were going 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.440 into the last year or of their contract. Right, and 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:50.480 now Dak is the only one in the league an 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:54.040 incumbent starting quarterback going into the last year of his contract. 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:58.920 So all those leaves have fallen, and now this huge 0:05:59.120 --> 0:05:59.920 leaf has fallen. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:03.000 Okay, So you got to talk to Dak. Was it yesterday? 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:03.680 Yesterday? 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:04.839 Yesterday? How'd that go? 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:09.440 It went well, I mean as well as it can 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:10.159 in four minutes? 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:11.360 Did you talk? 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:14.000 We could we get four minutes to talk? Okay? 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:15.440 What was your first question? 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:21.320 I remember, No, No, it wasn't really al. I like 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:23.599 to have a discussion. I don't like. I don't like 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:29.000 to be in I don't like I like for it 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.760 to be more of a conversation. Okay. So it was 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:36.560 a conversation with Dak, and so I asked him off 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.680 the top, Well, you do me a favor. I'm going 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:45.480 to say three two one, and you say. 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:51.159 Here we go, here we go, and so right. 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:53.400 And so I said, okay, here we go. And I 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.720 always say here we go now, I mean I probably 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.240 said it before all the time too. So I said, 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.000 all right, here we go three to two one, and 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:02.680 he said here we go. And so we talked about 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:06.520 here we go right off the top. Okay, that's buttering up. 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:08.440 That's a good start. That's a good start to it. 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:08.680 You know. 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:12.040 It is interesting because in my research on here we Go, 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:16.840 and this led to my second question, I stumbled across 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:22.600 an interview that Aaron Rodgers did on the Pat mcabee 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:27.160 show last December, and they were talking to him about 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.800 the cadence and the rhythmic cadence and there's much more 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.320 to this here we go, and and Dak has talked 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.560 about it a little bit but hadn't gone into as 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:37.240 the specifics. 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:38.400 As I uncovered last year. 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:41.400 By the way, Okay, so what is your take on 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.440 go then? So and then I'll tell you what Aaron 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.600 Rodgers has to say. 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:51.080 It It was to get everybody on the offensive line 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:55.880 to shut up, quit talking and now we're getting ready 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:59.320 to start the cadence for the snap count, right, and 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:04.280 Da was unsure of how it started. Would here we go? 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:10.240 And Beddish came walking by very conveniently, and he goes Beish, 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:12.640 He goes, how do we get going on? Here we go? 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.920 And he said, I think we were trying to get 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:19.360 everybody's attention and you just said here we go and 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:20.360 then it's stune. 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:24.320 It's yeah. It was interesting though hearing Aaron Rodgers talk 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:29.480 about it, because he talked about the rhythmic cadence and 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.280 how important that is. You know, Aaron Rodgers has a 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.800 reputation in his career being able to draw the defense 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:37.800 off side right, and we hear it out here on 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:42.000 the practice field where there's different emphasis on the here 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:46.920 we go or here we go whatever, and it's there's 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:49.920 a lot more to it than meets the eye, I think, right, 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:53.280 or meets the ear in this case. So but then 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:54.959 so he was asked about that, and then he was 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:56.960 asked about and then he just brought up on his 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.679 own before he said, before I talk about the cadence, 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.640 let me say this about Aaron about Dak Prescott. I've 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.720 been my idle time I've been sitting here, I've watched 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:08.680 a lot of Cowboys game. I've watched four or five 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:12.520 Cowboys games, and let me tell you, I am so 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:16.760 impressed with the way Dak Prescott is running that offense. 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.679 And he was talking not about how I was throwing 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:21.800 the ball or anything like that, but his command of 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:27.480 the offense at the line of scrimmage, everything that he 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.040 was doing. And I thought it was very interesting because 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.640 if anyone knows of Mike McCarthy offense, Aaron Rodgers would 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:36.680 And so that led me to the next question to 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.480 Dak with how much he has grown in the last year. 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:41.920 And the results are obvious on the field. I mean 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:43.960 it was second in the MVP voting and led the 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:47.560 league in touchdown passes. But I think the growth that 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:51.160 Dak has had has a lot to do and Aaron 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.600 Rodgers was one of the first to point it out. 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.960 The nuances of playing the quarterback position and how Dak 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:01.240 is now conduct being a masterclass in. 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:04.199 It, and I think we saw evidence of that in 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:09.240 Wednesday's practice. So after our show, he was red hot 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:15.920 in that practice, fitting passes into really tight, tight slots, 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:22.200 touchdown passes two minute drill red zone. I thought that 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.160 was one of his well, that was his best practice 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.880 of training camp and one of the best practices I 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:33.240 think I've seen with just spotting stuff and fitting balls 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:37.240 into tight situations. He was really good on Wednesday. 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.840 So anyway, that's that's where we got started. And by now, 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:43.920 by that point, I'm now two and a half minutes 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:45.120 into a four minute interview. 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:48.040 You got one question left answer. 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:53.240 And so we talked about Zeke. We talked about MJ. 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:59.480 And do you know when MJ was born February he 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:03.160 got report out there that she is a leapier baby 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:07.520 February twenty ninth, the actual dates February twenty second, twenty 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:10.199 Secondsbruary twenty second, when. 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.480 MJ was born, been aware of either of those? 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:16.920 Yeah, And so then I basically concluded asking if he 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:20.640 hopes that MJ grows up a Cowboys. 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.920 Fan, and what did he say? 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:25.800 I'm not going to pressure him her. 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.480 I think he did say that'd be nice that he 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.000 actually went on to another quote. I asked him about 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.440 the TikTok followers for Josh B. But I asked him 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.960 to close. I asked him, I asked him, Okay, who 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:41.600 do you think has the most followers on social media 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.480 on the team. I think he said secret CD and 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.480 so I didn informed you about Josh Bum's three point 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:50.080 three million followers. But it was funny on the MJ 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:53.920 when when I asked him about MJ as I was 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.520 going into the next question, he smiled. He knew exactly 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:57.600 where I was going with him. 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:58.640 Oh, I love that. 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:00.600 You should have said, well, I don't know, depends who 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:05.120 I'm playing for. Well, speaking of Josh Butler, do we 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:06.960 have an expert on Josh Butler here? 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:09.520 We have a new expert on Josh Butler. 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.320 Bill already spent his time with Josh but I got 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.240 to chat with him the other night, and gosh, he 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:19.160 just has this confidence about him that's both off the 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.880 field with everything that he does. He acts, he sings, 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:26.680 he has TikTok the dogs, but on the field, I 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:30.079 asked him how he portrays that confidence when he plays football, 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:33.040 and he just said, football is my number one priority. 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:35.640 I'm here to play the game, and we've seen it 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.960 out here at practice. He was taking some a lot 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:41.840 of snaps throughout practice the other day and you could 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.440 really just see how he was working with the defense 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:47.440 and just different scenarios. I mean, he was on the 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:50.280 field majority of the day, just really. 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:51.160 Getting some snaps in there. 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:56.000 So really I like seeing that chance that he has 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:57.680 to keep moving forward. 0:12:57.760 --> 0:12:59.720 I think that they're keeping their eye on Josh Butler 0:12:59.720 --> 0:12:59.959 a lot. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:04.880 And to that point about what he's doing outside of football, well, 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:06.920 I think it's a credit to him what he did 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:10.160 outside of football, because when he wasn't playing football, he 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.719 embarked on his career. He's got a master's degree from 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:18.080 Michigan State. I think it's in television entertainment and he's 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:21.480 he's starting to master that. With three point three million followers, 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:25.120 and he hadn't posted that much since, you know, as 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.400 far as his football career, maybe in the off season whatever. 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:31.200 But you know that if he plays and if he 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.240 actually gets some time out here and then he starts 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.959 posting stuff and he has a bad game, then people 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.199 will say, oh, he's spending too much time riting that. 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.400 And well, he just wants to make three point three 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:42.320 million dollars. 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:46.240 That's right, twenty seven years old, and so he's he's 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.520 late to the party. But and we talked the other 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:53.600 day about his athleticism, and he's got height, he's got speed. 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:55.480 I think he ran a four to three to two, 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.439 and he's shown it out here on the field so far. 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:01.280 I think it's a budding story at the cornerback position. 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:04.920 I mean, we know the top three, right, and then 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:10.120 the two guys that are really stepping up, Josh Butler 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:14.440 and Kaylin Carson. I think both of those two guys 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.640 are really making a push to be the fourth and 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:21.760 fifth cornerbacks, which I think is up for grabs right now. 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:27.600 You know, somebody might beat out Nashan Wright. Eric Scott's 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:31.840 gotta get going. So yeah, I think those two guys 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:36.200 right now, which brings up the Cowboys draft choices because 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:41.480 with Carson, I think that he certainly has made an impression. 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:46.320 Obviously Geyton has made an impression. I was talking to 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:52.440 Stephen Jones yesterday and we had been talking about the 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:57.240 Sam Williams injury, and Savannah brought up that they did 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:01.280 sign two guys. We can get into that, uh and 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.880 and Stevens said, you know, when they got to that 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.640 second round pick, they were looking at a bunch of 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:11.120 different guys and they decided on Kneeland. And he said, 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:15.520 now what happened to Sam? Thank god we drafted Neeland 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:18.560 because right now he's got to step up and be 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:22.280 a starter. There's I mean, there's nobody else. And even 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:24.920 though they signed these two guys, they're just kind of 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:29.280 guys right now. So Neeland's going to get every chance 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:33.080 to win that starting job next to DeMarcus Lawrence. 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.560 So we want to identify who these two guys are. 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:36.320 I can do it. 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.920 Yeah, if you want to pronounce the first guys Muhammad 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:41.440 al Quadden. 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.720 Oh Quaddon, Muhammad, he was a sixth round for the 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.720 Saints back in twenty sixteen. And then hopefully I pronounce 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:50.400 this correctly, Shaka Shaka Tony seventh round for the Commanders 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:51.120 in twenty twenty. 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.680 Wik to Penn State. Was a teammate of Michael Parsons 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:57.680 and college at Penn State. Now Tony is with Washington. 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:00.880 He's got a sack and a half in his limited 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:06.680 time in the league. And it's interesting on al Quad 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:12.560 and Muhammad. He went to Miami. He had he's his 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:16.240 twelve sacks in his career. Number of starts. I don't 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:18.320 have it in front of me, but he did not 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.240 get on the field last year. He was on the 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.200 Colts practice squad. I think he had what four sacks 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:26.880 two years ago. Yeah, he's jumped around a little bit 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:30.360 with with Chicago then and then Indianapolis before that, and 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:33.720 then back to Indianapolis. But he's out of the U. 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:38.760 And interestingly, he was suspended December sixth of last year, 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:40.800 got a six game suspension. 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:42.800 For peds and he's. 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:44.800 He's got one more game to go on that. 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:48.840 Which, by the way, both guys were suspended because Tony 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:55.160 got indefinitely suspended for gambling, okay, and he got reinstated, 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:58.560 and then I believe it was Washington let him go, 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:04.800 but the Cowboys new defensive line coach Jeff Skanina had 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:09.359 him in Washington, so he was familiar with Tony. 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.480 There you go. Well, that says a lot right there, 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.040 right if he've worked with a player, And it was 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:17.520 April twenty seventh, is right around the draft, is when 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.679 Washington let him go. Yeah, so it probably coincided with 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:22.160 someone that they picked in the. 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:26.960 Right and the fact that his indefinite suspension was lifted 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:30.000 and then I think the next day they let him go. 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:33.119 He only had one start in twenty six games, a 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.880 sack and a half, three quarterback hits. 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:39.120 And even on al quad and Muhammad. We don't know. 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.040 I haven't looked back to see if he got hurt 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:45.280 the year before, and he may have been rehabbing throughout 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:47.080 the season. That might have been a reason why he 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.240 wasn't getting on the field last year. And maybe he's 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:50.040 healthy now. 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:53.280 Right, and then maybe that's why the PDS too. 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And of course the first one out of 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:06.560 the gate is Zeke can I'll let Bill take it 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:07.000 from here. 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:10.800 Well, gate was the right word there, because you want 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:14.919 it's a design to protect the footballs that you're carrying. 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:18.120 And they're carrying two footballs through the gauntlet. 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:20.440 Yes, okay, I got an idea where this is going. 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:26.399 So you want to protect the footballs, but you also 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:31.439 and as you go through the gate, you want to 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:36.800 make sure, yeah, you need knees high. Is let's just say. 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:39.840 This where this is going. I've seen it many times, and. 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:42.640 So I just to say that Zeke didn't quite get 0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:45.120 his knees up on the first time through. 0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:48.560 He did a good job of protecting the footballs. 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:52.879 Right exactly, and so anyway he was sort. 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:55.879 Of oh that's why he bent over. 0:21:56.000 --> 0:22:00.200 Yes, he let out a he let out a shriek, 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:05.919 and there may or may not have been something that 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:09.359 was said by him that I'm not going to post 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:13.239 myself on X. So we bleeped it out just to 0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:13.800 make sure. 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:17.159 Later in the day, Oh you picked up the audio. 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:20.040 Oh yeah, I was the only one that. 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:21.800 Phil was the only one that filmed it. 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:25.320 And I'm standing next to Bill and we're watching Zeke. 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:28.119 I'm not going to trying to get his breath back together. 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:30.760 So I saw the end of it when he went 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:33.760 to the side and bent over. Yeah, and I said, 0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:35.840 he can't be tired already. 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:40.320 Well, here's the deal. So I'm glad you brought it up, Savannah, 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:43.720 because it needs to be clarified that because there's you know, 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:47.479 of course, especially when you post anything about Zeke okay, 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:51.760 people are looking okay and Zeke I have no idea why. 0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:55.719 But Zeke has his detractors out there, and so people 0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:58.480 think that he's gassed. He went through one drill and 0:22:58.520 --> 0:22:59.000 he's gas. 0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:03.480 No, he wasn't, not, not no, not in the slightest and. 0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:06.840 By the way, he successfully made it through the next time. 0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:10.360 And by the way, also if you look at how 0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:13.399 he goes through the baseball back gauntlet and then you 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:16.160 compare it to other running backs, you can see why 0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:19.199 Zeke is a power back in this league because you 0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:22.480 can you can really see on that drill, how he 0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:26.399 powers through a hole where other running backs don't have 0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:27.439 that same kind of power that. 0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:30.520 They could get the explosive you could hear those bats, 0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:31.280 that's right. 0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:35.160 So I didn't post the first one, the painful one, 0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:38.160 but I did post the second one, and I said, 0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:41.199 after a very painful first trip through the baseball bats, 0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:44.119 use your imagination as to what part of the anatomy 0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:48.000 was affected. Zeke sails through the second time with both 0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:52.240 balls still intact. 0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:53.160 A goodness. 0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:59.200 So yeah, yeah, so, uh is that not legal now 0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:01.119 to be able to post? Would you see something like 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:02.000 that in practice? 0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:02.679 No you can't. 0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:03.480 Oh you can't. 0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:04.000 Yeah. 0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:07.760 I thought they said no more posting live video from practice. 0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:10.080 I think that was a one day deal. That didn't 0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:12.400 count that there was a mock game day. 0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:15.560 Oh yeah, I see, okay, which. 0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:17.879 I've never posted anything. 0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:23.160 So you you mentioned detractors, yes, And somebody asked somehow 0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:26.880 Micah got on to the detractors and he. 0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:28.920 Said, good segue. 0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:31.760 Yes it was right, and he said, you know what, 0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:38.400 when you got the star on your helmet, you earn detractors, 0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:42.120 meaning you play for the Cowboys, and then everybody's paying attention. 0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:45.520 So now everybody's got something to say, So that was 0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:47.440 one of the many things. 0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:51.720 How how long did Micah go in his press conference yesterday? 0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:53.720 I got the answer. If you don't have. 0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:56.320 It, I'm gonna guess twenty minutes. 0:24:56.040 --> 0:25:00.640 Twenty nine minutes, nine minutes. Let me tell you. He 0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:03.840 went right off the practice field there. Yes, we went 0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:05.800 right off the practice field to go in to do 0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:08.320 our four minute interview with Dak. Now we had to 0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:10.720 wait around a little bit because it happened so quickly. 0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:14.399 Photographers weren't set up. Whatever. I'll go over there to 0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:16.879 interview Dak and I came back and Micah is still 0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:20.000 talking over here, and it went twenty nine minutes. So 0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:21.720 I want to hear what Micah had to say. 0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:27.119 Somebody asked him, Uh, who's the most memorable person he's met? 0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:29.920 And you know, he's met a lot of people, right, 0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:36.480 and he goes, I met a lot of famous people, 0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:43.760 but my favorite was Kevin Durant, really, and he said 0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:48.119 he was just a little bit different from everybody else. 0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:52.200 Producer Supreme is mentioning that he met Kevin Durant at 0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:55.440 the White Party, which is hosted I think in the Hampton's. 0:25:57.119 --> 0:26:03.720 Question was, oh I thought. They asked him who was 0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:05.640 the most memorable person. 0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:10.640 Fanatics? Michael Rubin. 0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:13.760 I think it's his white party, and I guess Micah 0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:17.320 was there. Kevin Durant they had some type of encounter, 0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:18.600 so I guess there you go. 0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:20.399 There you have it, he said. He said he was 0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:23.160 just a little bit more different than everybody else, sort 0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:28.720 of like myself, and he called him the slim Reaper. 0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:29.480 Oh. 0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:33.960 I liked it, right, And I have to paraphrase this, 0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:36.600 and this was the quote he goes, I love that 0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:40.800 stuff because it's like myself. 0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:45.400 I'd love to hear what I'm mentioning this because Kevin 0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:49.640 Durant was watching the gymnastics. They showed him the basketball 0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:53.920 team was watching the gymnastics yesterday and Simone Biles. I'd 0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:57.919 love to hear michaeh his thoughts on someone Biles men. Oh, yeah, 0:26:58.160 --> 0:26:59.840 unbelievable talent. 0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:03.320 I just can't believe about that vertical how high sheet. 0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:08.240 That's just ridiculous to even mention her age. She's one 0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:10.960 of the you know, she's twenty seven. 0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.800 Years old, but that is very old as. 0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:17.240 Far as old. Yeah, in gymnastics. 0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.280 Yeah, she set that that record as far as age goes. 0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:21.080 With winning that goal. 0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:26.080 Well, those guys, those guys basically I saw somebody tweeted 0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:28.920 out there's no doubt she could dunk a basketball at 0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:34.480 four eight whatever she is, Yeah, I mean, and just 0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:39.439 to do it at that level in that situation, on 0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:45.679 that final floor exercise, as high as she gets, it's incredible. 0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:48.879 Now she's okay. So that was the all around and 0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:53.680 now she's an other individual apparatus the next few days, 0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:55.760 and then her husband, Jonathan Owen, who plays for the 0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:57.760 Chicago Bears, is there. 0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:00.000 I think he's on his way. 0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:01.960 He's not a bit. I was going to say, yeah, 0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:04.280 surely he's not staying there for two weeks. 0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.280 Yeah, they let him go for for a little bit. 0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:09.400 He stayed for the all around. And the fact that 0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:13.960 she can do a flip on to the vault and 0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:17.800 then do three in the air before she lands. That's 0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:21.320 just that's on human. It's inhuman. Can't do that well. 0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:24.680 Her mini docu series is on Netflix. 0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:27.879 It's two episodes. If you haven't watched it, so you 0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:28.600 guys can go. 0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:33.040 Actually watched it. Yes, very good, it was very good. Yeah, 0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:36.280 they followed her around and it was Yeah, it was 0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:39.640 really really good. But yeah, that was amazing, and then 0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.120 they asked my and then Micah said, but the person 0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:46.760 he wants to meet is Denzel Washington, So that was 0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:52.080 a little off football. Uh. He was very good about 0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:56.000 talking about what Mike Zimmer wants him to do, and 0:28:56.040 --> 0:29:00.480 it's basically everything he's talking about how he's going to 0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:04.640 make him better because he's going to play all these 0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:10.400 different positions, meaning linebacker but lined up different spots defensive end, 0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:13.880 and that you're sort of forced to learn what everybody 0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:18.600 else is supposed to do, which I think that was 0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:25.160 one of the things Zim impressed on me back during 0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:30.200 the OTAs when he talked was about doing what you're 0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:33.400 supposed to do so other guys can perform what they're 0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:35.880 supposed to do on that play. Like if you're supposed 0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:39.480 to loop inside and take up that gap, no matter 0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:42.560 if the ball's there or you can get to the quarterback, 0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:45.520 you've got to take up the gap so the linebacker 0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:49.000 knows that he doesn't have to worry about that and 0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:51.080 he can go elsewhere to get to the ball. 0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:54.160 Okay, what game last year was the most glaring in 0:29:54.200 --> 0:30:01.920 your mind of playing irresponsibly, especially on the ed the 0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:03.000 Arizona game. 0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:07.560 I was going to say Buffalo, but well Buffalo, yeah, zone, 0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:08.880 and that was early in the season. 0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:12.560 That's being gap responsible. 0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.880 Right, you know, all that not free lancing, right. 0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:18.120 And I think that's one of the biggest things that 0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:22.600 that Zim. It's it's a principle in his defense, you know. 0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:25.800 And and why he's talking about knowing what other position 0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:30.560 groups are their responsibilities are so that you're not free lancing. 0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:33.640 And you know, Okay, on this play, I think I 0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:35.840 can get to the quarterback well, and then they run 0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:37.760 another play and they run inside you and they go 0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:39.520 josh Wua Dobbs goes forty. 0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:42.960 Five yards for a touchdown, right, and and so and 0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:47.040 zim Uh talked about see I think I think, well, 0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:50.160 I don't know, I might be guilty that, you know. 0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.800 To get Micah to do what he's supposed to do, Uh, 0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:55.800 you're going to have to have a come to Jesus 0:30:55.840 --> 0:31:01.120 meeting with him. And and I know the stubbornness of Zih, 0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:06.800 but it sounds like, you know, they asked zim about 0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:10.560 is he coachable? And he goes, Most great players are 0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:14.360 coachable once they figure out you're trying to make them better. 0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:19.600 And that's generally the best players are coachable, uh, and 0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:25.320 so Zim said that I'm convinced now that he can 0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:27.880 play any position on defense. 0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.560 And to even add on to that too, Yim Zim 0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:37.360 talked about how brilliant Michael Parsons is both off the field. 0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:37.840 And on the field. 0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:39.920 Send understands the game exactly. 0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:43.320 And Zim has been meeting with Micah daily as well 0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:46.600 as Trayvon Diggs, going over the schemes and what teams 0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:49.040 are going to do to try and come for Micah 0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:51.720 in the in the season. And so I think it's 0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.720 really good that Zimmer and Mike are are starting to 0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:58.480 have more of that personal bond because that's really important 0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:01.480 as far as the chess piece when you're moving Micah 0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:03.360 in so many different point that's exactly right. 0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:07.760 And there's more than one of Trayvon's teammates who have 0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:12.280 unsolicited said in this camp that Trayvon is a genius 0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:17.160 when it comes to football and so, and you think 0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:21.600 about it what the Kansas City Chiefs did on defense 0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:24.239 last year, okay, and what the Chiefs have had to 0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:26.600 do because they're in the same boat that the Cowboys 0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:29.800 are in because they're paying so much money to a 0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:32.440 couple of players on the team, two or three players 0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:35.880 making so much money that they have got to get guys. 0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:39.880 And Steve Spagnola has done this on his defense. He 0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:45.560 gets He's targeted smart guys who can play football, and 0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:51.080 you saw that in the playoffs last year and going 0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:53.080 all the way through the Super Bowl. That was I 0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.880 think that was the hallmark of Spagnola's team last year 0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:59.160 is how smart they played defensively. I think about the 0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:03.120 defense in the secondary, especially when they were won of 0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:05.640 the Super Bowl ten years ago, with Richard Sherman and 0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:09.240 Earl Thomas back there. I mean, was there was a 0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:13.280 cerebral unit as much as you talk about the legion 0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:16.880 of Boom whatever, but they were smart players back there. 0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:21.800 Well, it'll be interesting, and I know we shouldn't assume 0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:25.680 that Trayvon gets back out there good as new, right 0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:29.600 coming back from the torn acl Usually it takes some time. 0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:35.280 I saw one ranking that the Cowboys' secondary was the 0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:38.520 fifth best in the league, and then the other ranking, 0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.240 and then the other ranking on the corner back and 0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:43.520 you know what, I looked at a bunch of lists 0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:48.800 and his name wasn't very high on any of them. 0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:51.400 So I don't know if they're looking at what happened 0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:53.360 last year because he didn't play. 0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:56.320 Right, they may have been basing it on last year 0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:57.680 where he only played two good. 0:33:57.600 --> 0:33:59.760 But that ain't the way the question came out to. 0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:06.800 When I think it was kyup from Channel four said 0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:11.000 there's a list out there, and Trayvon knew exactly where 0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:13.759 he was going, and he go what it said? What 0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.239 it said? Like he didn't know what it said? And 0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:19.120 then he goes, what did it say? And Jeff goes, 0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:22.520 it said you weren't one of the top ten cornerbacks 0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:25.880 in the league. Does that motivate you? And are you 0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:30.000 eager to prove that you are? Again, he goes, I 0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:32.120 feel like I'm in a league of my own. There 0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:34.400 is nobody that can do what I do. There is 0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:37.520 nobody that can do what Bland does. I feel like 0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:40.239 we're in the league of our own. 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You're a 0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:38.640 part of it, aren't you. 0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.280 Mickey, I think I'm in the opening. 0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:47.560 Yes segment Save the best for First Channel Channel twenty 0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:48.800 one and Dallas four. 0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:50.680 Worth and Dallascowboys dot Com. 0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:55.360 Maybe we've got the practice and we've got unless this 0:37:55.480 --> 0:38:02.600 has changed myself. Kyle Yoelmans, Brian brought Us, Nate Newton 0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:05.160 are involved, and Mickey Spagnola is involved. 0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:09.680 On the broadcast two hour broadcast, it's a warm up 0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:13.839 for the preseason game for you guys and for us 0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:15.480 for the pre pregame show. 0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:15.960 That's right. 0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:22.120 So I found I found another reason why young people 0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:27.080 walk around with their phones out reading them okay, because 0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:29.399 when you run into somebody, you don't have to say hi. 0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:35.520 It prevents any social interaction. 0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:37.799 At what moment did you realize this? 0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:41.600 When I walk back and forth to the chow hall, 0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:45.919 all the players that are doing this, and they never 0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:46.600 look up, and. 0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:49.160 Are you doing now? 0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:53.480 Because I have a I have now a new habit 0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:56.640 of staring people down and forcing them to say hi. 0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:00.720 And you don't know how many people I look away, 0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:04.000 and not just players, there's other people in the organization, 0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:07.399 and and they'll act like they're distracted looking the other way. 0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:09.800 It's like, is it so hard to say? 0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:12.680 I know, it's amazing. 0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:17.600 God forbid, if you get in an elevator, would. 0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:19.920 Be I could be you and just one other person 0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:21.560 walking down a hallway. 0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:25.280 Yeah, that was my story. 0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:26.439 Well that's a Mickey sign. 0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:30.040 And I've told you this before, but it was. It 0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:32.360 was a Monday morning after a loss, and I was 0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:36.040 coming down the hallway and Parcells was coming the other way, 0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:39.120 and your natural reaction is go, Hi, Bill, how's it going? 0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:43.760 And that's what I said, And he goes, not real well, 0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:51.600 And so from that point I remember to just Hi, Bill, Hi, 0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:54.560 don't ask too many No, don't ask too much. 0:39:55.239 --> 0:40:00.320 All right, Okay, yesterday I was driving out of the 0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:04.040 the compounds and I turn over to my left and 0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:08.280 I see the entire offensive line swimming in the pool. Yeah, 0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:11.879 And I said, are they doing water aerobics? And come 0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:13.399 to find out they were. 0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:16.440 They were. And as a matter of fact, when we 0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:21.399 were shooting my next star shot, we'll do it by 0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:26.360 the pool up front by the lobby, and the guys 0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:29.279 were testing the water because they told them it was 0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:32.399 a heated pool. And I think somebody put their hand 0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:35.719 here and goes, oh, that's a bunch of bs. But 0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:37.680 you know what they were doing. They were getting in 0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.319 the hot tub first to warm up before they got 0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:40.880 in the pool. 0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:41.359 There you go. 0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:43.919 And I remember the first time I thought that that 0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:47.120 would work, like on a ski trip and we were 0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:53.520 at we were in Snow Mass in Colorado, and I said, well, 0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:55.239 we're just gonna get in the hot tub because I 0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:56.880 hear if you get in the hot tub before you 0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:59.680 go in the pool, it won't be cold. And it 0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:02.080 was like, well, that's a bunch of bs because it 0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:03.760 was freezing cold in the pool. 0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:07.080 You could probably only have two of those guys sitting 0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:08.919 in the hotel before you can jump in the pool. 0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:10.120 They have a bit more than. 0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:12.799 They had two. I think they had four. It well, 0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:14.680 they weren't sitting, they were all standing. 0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:16.840 I know, I know they're a little small here. 0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:22.479 Yeah, at our hotel, the pool is heated over there. 0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:25.000 But my issue is not getting in the pool. It's 0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:28.160 getting out of the pool, right, you know. It's especially 0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:29.080 in the evening. 0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:34.359 Which I found out in snow mass It's like, yeah, 0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:39.600 this is this will freeze everything getting out all right? 0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:44.240 We got uh, this is padded practice number three coming 0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:46.640 up today. What are we looking for now? As the 0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:51.279 Cowboys had the mock game yesterday and so now we're 0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:54.520 getting back to the pads on today and tomorrow, and so. 0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:57.000 Are we looking at the next And let's preface this. 0:41:57.440 --> 0:41:59.800 The two new guys, they probably got to go for 0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.439 a ramp up, so we ain't seen nothing from them 0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:07.640 till probably Monday at the at the earliest. You know, 0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:12.120 I think we keep keep keeping our eye on Tyler 0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:17.040 Geiton to see how he's doing. I think he needs to, 0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:21.560 you know, become more consistent. I think you see flashes 0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:24.359 and why I think he can be successful. But then 0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:28.759 there's other times I think he gets exposed as being 0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:33.040 a rookie. So keep an eye on that, keep an 0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:37.520 eye on Neiland's progress, because they're very serious about him 0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:41.040 taking over that starting defensive end spot. 0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:44.480 I think what I'm looking for is just the slow 0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:47.919 progression and how they're going to introduce Trayvon Diggs back 0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:51.880 into everything now that he's off the pup list, and 0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:53.920 then we can see, you know, how they're going to 0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:56.000 slowly implement him. But I'm keeping an eye on what 0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:57.440 he's working on, you. 0:42:57.400 --> 0:43:00.920 Know, practice yesterday when they did the walk through or 0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:05.000 mock game however they call it. Uh, he was. He 0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:09.200 was out there at right cornerback doing this and it's 0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:11.359 a walk through, but he was out there with him 0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:15.640 going through the steps. I noticed that, I noticed Geyton 0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:19.839 was with the first team offense. And then just kind 0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:23.920 of keep an eye on on on these receivers, all 0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:25.600 these young guys we're through. 0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:31.120 We basically had three con padded and now there was 0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:32.680 there were four, but one was more of a. 0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:35.279 Mark well the same thing, but it was it was 0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:36.560 I gotcha not. 0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:40.399 Full speed right and uh so we basically have had 0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:44.200 five practices so far. So who of those wide receivers 0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:47.520 has stood out to you? 0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:50.520 You know, I'm gonna have to say Jalen Tolbert And 0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:53.399 that's based on the fact the amount of times I've 0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:57.960 seen him just catch catch the ball from Dak and 0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:01.879 their kind of connection. That's what I'm really liking right 0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:03.000 now is is the. 0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:06.080 Amount of time Nate is going in the shot. There's 0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:07.080 something to be said about that. 0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:11.959 How about one guy that you probably weren't expecting much 0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:18.759 from h tying Billy Johnson Team Billy Uh. He continues 0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:24.439 to show up. He's been all over in his career. 0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:27.799 And Shotty yesterday in his press conference mentioned him and 0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:32.839 uh in glowing terms. He a guy that has stood out, 0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:36.160 much like Nate Newton stands out no matter what room 0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:36.560 he walks. 0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:39.520 He's gonna ask Nate what stood out to him? 0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:41.200 And he doesn't have a microphone. 0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:42.719 I was going to handle my. 0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:47.640 Producer Supreme to no, No, I'm just studying. 0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:49.920 I just wanted to sit down his studying. I'm not. 0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:51.480 I don't want to be a part of our show. 0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:52.839 I really don't. 0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:54.000 You don't want to help us out. 0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:58.240 This is great though, that, Nate, that you're here, because 0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:02.040 next Monday, just three days from now, you're gonna be 0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:04.080 sitting right here. 0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:04.799 It's us three. 0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:07.040 I'm leaving. I'm leaving. 0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:10.040 You forced me, you twist my arm? What do you need? 0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:12.920 You think you can get here at eight in the morning. 0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:15.239 Yes I can. Okay, Oh, yes I can. Once I 0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:17.480 see my prayers, I'm up and going there. 0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:18.359 All right, Okay, Nate. 0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:21.440 Who is one person you're keeping your eye on in 0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:24.480 today's practice or someone that's been catching your eye recently? 0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:28.919 Uh? God, Number fifty one. 0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:31.400 He's a defensive Endrel Johnson. 0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:37.959 The Rel Johnson. He went to work on past rush. 0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:40.319 Two days ago. He went to work on our first 0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:43.680 round pick. Oh, he went to work on him and ah, 0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:46.359 and he's been making a few plays here and now 0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:50.040 nobody's really watching him. And then I heard y'all bring 0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:53.560 up to Ron Billy Johnson that the first day I 0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:56.239 got here, I went to the coaches about him. But 0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:58.920 this number fifty one I've been watching. I talked to 0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:02.560 Greg Ella. It's about Darrell Johnson. I don't know why 0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:06.160 I keep forgetting this kid's name, but uh, he said, Nate, 0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:09.680 He said, he has the body, he has the temperament, 0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:13.040 but he needs to be more of a student of 0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:16.160 the game. He needs to learn his position and be 0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:18.960 able to transfer it to the field. He say, he's 0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:22.120 got talent and I need for him to make this team, 0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:25.239 but he's a little bit slow in gathering the information 0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:28.919 and transferring it to the field. So that's the guy 0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:32.200 I've been watching the last few days and it's just 0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:35.920 it's just a good kid, but some and that happened 0:46:35.960 --> 0:46:39.920 to me coming into the NFL my first time. I 0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:42.200 just I wasn't quick on the learning one night was 0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:46.280 a dummy. I just couldn't gather it quick enough. And time, 0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:48.080 you know, time is against him. 0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:50.719 So do you think have the skill set that he 0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:54.080 could be a sub package pass rusher on passing down 0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:57.200 Sam Williams was in the last two years. 0:46:57.280 --> 0:46:59.640 Yeah, he got a long body, and when you have 0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:02.040 a loan body with long arms, all of this stuff, 0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:04.480 whether you want to be a run defendive, whether you 0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:08.000 want to be a designated pass rush, all these things are. 0:47:07.920 --> 0:47:10.239 In the in his future if he could just get 0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:11.040 it upstairs. 0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:13.440 Michael Irby used to preach all the time and Mickey 0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:15.120 Tael and you was around Bill, but you. 0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:20.799 Was a young lady's ye. But I'm sharing with you now. 0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:24.880 We don't need we don't need guys who are smart 0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:27.279 for the load of shoulders, you know. And that's what 0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:29.160 I'm saying. If you don't have it up here mentally, 0:47:29.760 --> 0:47:31.520 you know, you can have to be the greatest athlete 0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:34.480 in the world and can't and can't transfer it to 0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:36.880 the field because you can't think situation of football. 0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:38.680 So that's what we need for this kid to do. 0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:42.799 And you know what makes that type of player valuable 0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:46.800 now is the new kickoff rule that you got to 0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:50.080 have some guys that are very, very versatile. 0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:52.160 How did I know he was going to try to 0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:54.920 put that in the shoulder and. 0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:55.960 We didn't get to it. 0:47:56.239 --> 0:48:00.200 That's right, we saw it last night. Dynamic kickoff. He's 0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:00.960 really exciting. 0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:04.000 What did people think was gonna happen? It wasn't. It 0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:06.560 was to just put a play in the game instead 0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:09.640 of a touchback. I think people thought people were gonna 0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:12.719 run for touchdowns right away. No one's gonna show what 0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:16.280 they're gonna do in preseason games. It's gonna be a secret. 0:48:16.560 --> 0:48:21.839 But when I talk everybody you talk to now listen. 0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:25.960 I want you to listen. Everybody you talked to was 0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:29.200 just sick to their stomach over Sam Williams getting hurt 0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:30.320 because they were gonna. 0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:32.480 Do you know who was the sickest. 0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:35.799 Was John Fossil because even though they were looking at 0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:40.360 him playing seventy percent of the defensive snaps, Fossil pointed 0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:44.080 out because of the new rules on the kickoff. 0:48:43.680 --> 0:48:46.080 They were going to use him on an end a 0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:49.560 round kickoff or turn like Hollywood Henderson back in the day. 0:48:49.640 --> 0:48:50.640 They were going to use. 0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:56.960 Because he's that versatile, a big versatile guy and in 0:48:57.640 --> 0:49:04.200 blocking and as we talked about having somebody tall on 0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:06.759 the front line that could tip the ball if they 0:49:06.840 --> 0:49:08.879 hit line drives without touching. 0:49:08.880 --> 0:49:12.440 And just a trip down memory lane, Hollywood Henderson had 0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:15.200 an end around kickoff return for the for a touchdown 0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:17.719 against the Rams, I think in a playoff game his 0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:22.600 rookie year, and he spiked the ball over, slam dunk 0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:25.480 the ball over the goal post. That's what kind of. 0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:29.680 Are you happy you forced it on us at dinner 0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:30.920 yesterday to kickoff? 0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:33.520 That's right? Are you do you forcing it on us now? 0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:37.160 You was two hours late to doing his spot for 0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:40.160 the national people of the National h people that pay 0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:41.160 for these spots. 0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:45.200 Because he listened to John Fossil for two hours. I 0:49:45.239 --> 0:49:50.000 am happy. 0:49:50.440 --> 0:49:54.160 All right. That does it for this edition of Mixed Suits. 0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:58.040 But the next edition is going to be an Emmy 0:49:58.120 --> 0:50:01.320 Award winner because Nate Newton and is joining the fray 0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:03.759 on Monday and I head out of here. 0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:05.719 Is he going to take that spot over there? 0:50:06.680 --> 0:50:10.240 Whatever he takes. What Nate takes, whatever spot he wants 0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:10.640 to take. 0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:12.759 Let the young lady stay in the middle of it. 0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:14.040 What's the fun I want you to. 0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:18.600 Move over there that the captain, Yes, Captain shot right, 0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:20.480 I'm going to turn it over to you. 0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:22.840 Oh no, no, because all I will talk about is 0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:27.200 John Fossil and how he's going to do special team session. 0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:30.200 Okay, and be sure to catch Nate as well on 0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:35.880 the Blue white practice tomorrow being televised tomorrow. Okay, it 0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:39.319 is big time. All right, We'll see you next time. 0:50:39.440 --> 0:50:41.799 Miryl Mickshots Go Cowboys. 0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:45.560 This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 0:50:45.760 --> 0:50:47.600 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.