Speaker 1: This is it craziest day of the year, and it's
Speaker 1: already been a freaking wild morning.
Speaker 2: Scott ron A, J.
Speaker 1: Prizinski, Eric Kratz, we are with you till six o'clock
Speaker 1: ish Eastern Time for our trade deadline coverage special.
Speaker 2: We're live the entire time.
Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal will stop by, Jim Bowden will stop by,
Speaker 1: Thad Levine will stop by, former front office executive, and
Speaker 1: a very interesting conversation, being that the twins have been
Speaker 1: quite active. Buck Showalter for the manager perspective and other
Speaker 1: guests will join us as well.
Speaker 2: It has been a crazy morning, and Krats also a
Speaker 2: crazy night.
Speaker 1: We went over some of the big moves yesterday, so
Speaker 1: we did a live show, a bonus show for about
Speaker 1: thirty minutes last night, and we covered the Mets grabbing
Speaker 1: bullpen pieces, the Philly's getting Duran, among other deals that
Speaker 1: were done last night.
Speaker 2: So we've been busy.
Speaker 1: We're not going to rewrap those too much because we're
Speaker 1: looking forward here and we've got moves to make and
Speaker 1: to break down this morning.
Speaker 3: There's a ton. There's a ton that have been made
Speaker 3: since we went to bed late night style, and now
Speaker 3: I feel like there's so much exciting things. It's like
Speaker 3: we're sitting under the tree right now waiting to figure
Speaker 3: out what gift we're going to open next. Could be disappointed,
Speaker 3: but it could be something awesome too.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. There's a move that just got
Speaker 1: made to that I'll talk about in a moment coming up.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a lot of that over the next
Speaker 1: five hours. But this morning's been a little crazy.
Speaker 3: Well, how about why does the Suarez trade have to
Speaker 3: happen at four in the morning.
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, we couldn't have waited till this
Speaker 4: morning to announce that was it gonna be a.
Speaker 3: Four in the morning.
Speaker 1: We as a group, we're like, okay, we're gonna go
Speaker 1: for five hours today and last night we're like.
Speaker 3: You need a break somewhere in between.
Speaker 1: Fine, that's wow.
Speaker 3: Someone with my attention span, it's a long time.
Speaker 1: That or you get a significant trade every thirty to
Speaker 1: sixty minutes to keep your attention.
Speaker 2: If there's a lull, there's a lull, he go, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: If there's both, there's still a lot of work to
Speaker 1: do and there's moves happening basically every thirty minutes right now,
Speaker 1: trade this segment's called trade latest one. Harrison Bader from
Speaker 1: the Twins to the Phillies. It's like the Phillies and
Speaker 1: Twins are friends and they have common interests. The Phillies
Speaker 1: are buying the Twins are selling the Twins clearly like
Speaker 1: Philadelphia's prospect packages. Here we go, Kratz. The Phillies signed
Speaker 1: David Robertson about a week and change ago, picked up
Speaker 1: Jan Duran, who is one of the best relievers to
Speaker 1: move in this market. Obviously Mason Miller just moved this morning,
Speaker 1: but one of the big names and they get two
Speaker 1: and a half years of a run with him and
Speaker 1: now Harrison Bader to help man the outfit. And Bader's
Speaker 1: having I think his best offensive season. He's a little
Speaker 1: bit above league average with the bat this year. He's
Speaker 1: kind of tried to find the balance of contact power.
Speaker 1: Who am I at the play? He's talked about that
Speaker 1: a lot. He is a fantastic defender. So what do
Speaker 1: we think is this the answer for them in the
Speaker 1: outfield and outfield that has not performed well in terms
Speaker 1: of wins above replacement? The front office, you know, proprietary
Speaker 1: metrics that look at their outfield, do not like them.
Speaker 2: So are they better now?
Speaker 3: They're better? For sure, they're better. Is Harrison Vader the
Speaker 3: answer to their offensive woes? I mean, unfortunately, this is
Speaker 3: this is great, Like they're upgrading what they already have.
Speaker 3: I think his OPS is seven seventy eight. That would
Speaker 3: firmly put him in third place on the team's regulars
Speaker 3: for ops, not the outfield, the whole team. It will
Speaker 3: go Kyle Schwarber, Bruce Harper, and then Harrison Vader above
Speaker 3: Trey Turner. They haven't slugged. Is his twelve home runs enough?
Speaker 3: Is he gonna hit more homers just because he's going
Speaker 3: to Citizens Bank Park? I don't think so. They had
Speaker 3: great defense in Johann and Rojas. Yeah, Johann Rojas. I'm
Speaker 3: saying to me, Johann's right now. But they I think
Speaker 3: they can. They can deploy him defensively. They'll be able
Speaker 3: to make those that outfield you know, two thirds three,
Speaker 3: you know, three out three of the outfield solid lateen innings.
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be a mix and match for the bullpen.
Speaker 3: But you know, is this is this the big splash
Speaker 3: Phillies fans wanted?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Is this what Jim Boden said, I think the Phillies
Speaker 3: are gonna go crazy. This is not it, This is
Speaker 3: not it. But I think it takes him out of
Speaker 3: the Lewis Robert stuff. They were not They saw a
Speaker 3: front and center Lewis Robert for three games and they said,
Speaker 3: maybe the price is the price is wrong. Bob.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, Vader's having a much better season than Robert
Speaker 1: to this point. I mean, Roberts got the potential. And
Speaker 1: Mark Finztein just put this out, he said. Although the
Speaker 1: Socks have spoken to a number of teams about Robert,
Speaker 1: sources say it's more likely he stays with Chicago through
Speaker 1: the trade deadline idiots. The White Sox would likely pick
Speaker 1: up his twenty million dollar option for twenty six and
Speaker 1: hope for more of what they've seen over the past month.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's always a hope with this guy. It's
Speaker 4: always a hope. I always hope he stays healthy. Oh,
Speaker 4: we hope he's good for two years he hasn't. We
Speaker 4: can hope and wish and all that, but it ain't
Speaker 4: worked for two years now.
Speaker 1: It's bad news for Luis Ryl.
Speaker 3: Why why would we Why listen as a White Sox
Speaker 3: fan if you can get a prospect for him. Make
Speaker 3: the other team make the twenty million dollar decision. Your
Speaker 3: payroll is going down, down, down, down, down down. Bringing
Speaker 3: up all these young kids and they look great. But
Speaker 3: if you can get something for him, what you're gonna
Speaker 3: wait till the offseason and pick up his option and
Speaker 3: then teams are gonna go, well, we need to see
Speaker 3: him play well, and then you're stuck with it.
Speaker 1: We're it on the street is that they want a
Speaker 1: top five prospect from a team, and teams are laughing
Speaker 1: at it.
Speaker 3: I want a lot of stuff in life, but I
Speaker 3: don't always get what I want.
Speaker 1: Teams are laughing at rolling Stones. He want nothing, so
Speaker 1: they get laughed at. I think there's probably a team
Speaker 1: that's more in like the tenth overall prospect. And again
Speaker 1: this is all relatives. Some farm systems are better than others.
Speaker 1: But trying to generalize here, if you have an average
Speaker 1: farm system, does your tenth best prospect get Louise Robert?
Speaker 1: That's what he's worth right now? The White Sox feel
Speaker 1: like that's a ripoff. Yeah, but because his value has
Speaker 1: dropped significantly, this isn't Louise Robert from twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: when we talked about this and said, you'd have years
Speaker 1: of control of a guy who could be an MVP candidate.
Speaker 1: It's just not the reality of the situation right now.
Speaker 1: So the Phillies have said, moving on, thanks, We'll take
Speaker 1: Harrison Vader. His elite defense, his career year at the plate,
Speaker 1: his clutchness in the postseason. He's had great postseason moments.
Speaker 3: He's a Gator.
Speaker 1: He's a Gator. He's a gamer. Dudes like him. Boom done.
Speaker 1: He's a Philly all.
Speaker 3: Right for Crats. Besides Bruce Harper, are the rest of
Speaker 3: the Philly fans excited about Harrison Vader?
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 2: Why Krats, I'm gonna go against you here.
Speaker 1: Much fun is he?
Speaker 3: How much better is he than Martian Rojas the other
Speaker 3: two guys?
Speaker 1: He's much better than Rojas'm he's a much better bat
Speaker 1: than Roga.
Speaker 2: Uh defensively better still better.
Speaker 3: On Philly Radio today, are you like crap we got
Speaker 3: Duran and Bader? Or are you like, yes, we got
Speaker 3: Durne and Bader. They are yes, we got them right now.
Speaker 3: You asked me if they're happy, Yeah, they're please. They
Speaker 3: definitely want beater. There is no bigger fan base that
Speaker 3: wants Rojas out of center field, and they shouldn't. I mean,
Speaker 3: he shouldn't be getting any at bats. They shouldn't. He's
Speaker 3: a solid defensive Big leaguer. And if you upgrade with
Speaker 3: a guy who can play center field every day, right
Speaker 3: he's and lefties. I think they have the pieces that
Speaker 3: can fit to make it a really good outfield. But
Speaker 3: you asked me if Philly fans are happy with that. No,
Speaker 3: they want the Monster move. They've wanted the Monster move
Speaker 3: since aj Prasinski came on here and said, I watched
Speaker 3: John Middleton leave, leave the stadium. He was not pleased,
Speaker 3: and then they heard all the reports. We are not
Speaker 3: gonna sit status quo. There's no way this team sits
Speaker 3: status quo. It's the same. It's the same team from
Speaker 3: when they lost to the Mets in the NLS, at
Speaker 3: the NLDS they lost to the Mets. It is essentially
Speaker 3: the same team. They Philly fans want something big. Yesterday
Speaker 3: they were juiced fireworks at the shore yesterday. Love it.
Speaker 3: Johan Duran awesome, Harrison Bader great, ad love that, but
Speaker 3: they want more.
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Speaker 1: slash foul. Okay, their bullpen is better or should be
Speaker 1: better than last year.
Speaker 2: Correct Duran? They didn't have a duran.
Speaker 1: Alvarado's good and I know he'll be back for the
Speaker 1: regular season the postseason. You think the bullpen last year
Speaker 1: was better than the bullpen this.
Speaker 3: Year it was one of the best bullpens in the
Speaker 3: game last year. Jeff Hoffman, Yes, I know they blew
Speaker 3: it in the playoffs. The Jeff Matt strom stromp SI
Speaker 3: was throwing a hundred. Strom still there. I get it.
Speaker 3: But that bullpen last year, minus the playoffs, was one
Speaker 3: of the best. At one point, I think they were
Speaker 3: the best bullpen in baseball.
Speaker 1: Okay, hold up, Duran. They had a rough series. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Strom's still there. Kirking's been pretty good. Correct me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: Craft.
Speaker 1: I don't have everyone's numbers, but I don't watch every
Speaker 1: freaking game. Uh, Duran is better than Alvarado, and you're
Speaker 1: still gonna have Alvarado until the end of the regular season.
Speaker 1: Duran is better than Alvarado, period, no question. And I
Speaker 1: think David Robertson's going to be good. Is going to
Speaker 1: be no, I think he is.
Speaker 3: He's always been good. He does cutters.
Speaker 2: He was nasty last year.
Speaker 3: Cutters and curveballs. You could pitch to your one hundred.
Speaker 3: I think you just throw a curveball. You can't.
Speaker 1: They did a nice job. I would get one more.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to for the bullpen. I
Speaker 1: would get one more. Okay, now let's go to the
Speaker 1: position player side. I think we're undervaluing how much of
Speaker 1: a difference Rojas is to beat. Batter is a massive upgrade,
Speaker 1: even if the offense sticks down a little bit. Right,
Speaker 1: John Rojas has a fifty eight ops plus this year?
Speaker 3: Is that good?
Speaker 1: Fifty eight?
Speaker 2: That's not a major league bat?
Speaker 3: But you said that Cabrian Hayes is right there.
Speaker 2: No, I'd smashed that trade yesterday.
Speaker 1: Fifty eight. Harrison Bader's ops plus is one to eleven guys,
Speaker 1: they're not in the same stratosphere.
Speaker 3: Who else did you want?
Speaker 2: Here's my thing?
Speaker 1: What did you want?
Speaker 2: What did you want?
Speaker 1: They got a top two closer available, right, Him and
Speaker 1: Miller were the best two closers available, and we didn't
Speaker 1: even know Miller was available. So you got Duran to
Speaker 1: lock it down. You signed Robertson, and you even have
Speaker 1: to give up any prospects. You kept all of your
Speaker 1: top prospects. You got Batter to upgrade the outfield. What
Speaker 1: else did you want?
Speaker 3: I am in agreeance with you. The question was posed
Speaker 3: to me on Philly radio. W I p are people happy? No,
Speaker 3: they're not happy. They want they want an aircraft carrier.
Speaker 3: When you when Philly fans started hearing the fact that
Speaker 3: Kyle Tucker was a possibility in the off season. That's
Speaker 3: where they set their bar. That's what they're looking for
Speaker 3: at this trade deadline. When people hear that Montgomery, I
Speaker 3: mean on Montgomery, that Dave Dombrowski is going to go crazy,
Speaker 3: that he is going to this is his chance to
Speaker 3: solidify himself in Philly Lore. They want something big. They
Speaker 3: want a Hineo Suarez. They want didn't get it. They
Speaker 3: want that aircraft carrier that has not shown up for
Speaker 3: this team yet. It can't be Schwarber and Bryce Harper
Speaker 3: or it will be a quick out in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: So Gino Suarez was what they want and that they're
Speaker 2: not getting.
Speaker 1: That was the guy because else.
Speaker 3: That that type of that type of pickup, like a there's.
Speaker 1: Only one Welledric Mullins. Harrison Vader's having a better year
Speaker 1: than Cedric Mullins.
Speaker 2: I like Mullins.
Speaker 3: He's probably a better defender.
Speaker 2: Better defender, yes, but I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying like a Cedric Mullins and then a somebody somebody
Speaker 3: in that upper tier, somebody in that upper tier, I
Speaker 3: think they went. I don't think it's upper tier though.
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you what Philly fans are gonna say.
Speaker 1: I know, but there was one guy available for that,
Speaker 1: so they wanted to upgrade third and get Gino Suarez. Right,
Speaker 1: that's it. I mean, there's nobody else of that caliber available.
Speaker 1: You can make a case for Stephen Kwan. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen there, step Enquaan.
Speaker 3: They're probably asking a boat load for it because the
Speaker 3: years of control. I mean, yeah, I think I think
Speaker 3: the original package was going to be Emmanuel Classe and
Speaker 3: Stephen Kwan, and I think fans would have been blown
Speaker 3: away with that, especially.
Speaker 1: I'll take a class.
Speaker 3: Too soon. The Guardians are still gonna give it, give
Speaker 3: it up.
Speaker 1: It was past midnight when the Mariners and the Diamondbacks
Speaker 1: agreed to a deal that sends Geno Suarez out to Seattle.
Speaker 1: The prospect return includes Tyler Locklear, who could be the
Speaker 1: long term solution at first base for the Diamondbacks, Hunter Cranton,
Speaker 1: who's got some upside, a pitcher in Juan Burgos as well,
Speaker 1: another right handed picture prospect. There's your return on the nice,
Speaker 1: pretty ft trade graphic. So the Diamondbacks get a boatload
Speaker 1: of prospects over a week span from the Mariners and
Speaker 1: they give up both corner infield bats Josh Naylor and
Speaker 1: Geno Suarez.
Speaker 3: Had or.
Speaker 1: I think that they were talking a few days ago
Speaker 1: and the ask was larger for the Diamondbacks, and then
Speaker 1: they're shopping it around and teams like the Tigers and
Speaker 1: the Cubs and then even the Reds who gave up.
Speaker 1: The Yankees who gave up weren't offering what they thought
Speaker 1: they were going to get. It is a nice prospect return,
Speaker 1: but if you think Gino Suarez is going to continue
Speaker 1: his fifty plus homer pace, it's a light return. He's
Speaker 1: a rental This is how the position player rental market works.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm not gonna lie. I don't know a lot
Speaker 3: about a lot of these prospects. So I mean cool,
Speaker 3: they think it was worth it. I mean cool, But
Speaker 3: I mean I know what Geno Suarez is, and I
Speaker 3: know Geno Suarez when he left. We talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 3: When he left the Mariners. They weren't super abby when
Speaker 3: he left. Remember, they're like, he strikes out too much.
Speaker 3: Now they go out and get him again, So he
Speaker 3: must have been pretty good. Or are they just hoping
Speaker 3: they keep continue to catch lighting a bottle, but he
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Speaker 1: and I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, I love that ballpark. That's like one of my
Speaker 3: favorite places to hit of all time. Yeah, I loved
Speaker 3: hitting there.
Speaker 1: You know who else is fine with that ballpark?
Speaker 3: Cal Raley mm hmm, I loved hitting and seat. I
Speaker 3: love Seattle. People ask me, like one of my favorite series.
Speaker 3: I loves up to six hours from where I live. Like,
Speaker 3: I love Seattle, I mean Seahawk. I root for the
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Speaker 3: But yeah, like I mean, I've ran balls for the
Speaker 3: Sea I was the ball boy for the Seahawks. I
Speaker 3: love Seattle.
Speaker 1: Okay, So do you love the Mariners enough to call
Speaker 1: them a World Series contender? Could this team win a
Speaker 1: World Series this year for the first time in franchise history?
Speaker 1: Do they have it.
Speaker 2: Do they have the song.
Speaker 3: Enough win a World Series?
Speaker 1: Okay, let me let me run it down for you,
Speaker 1: just to remind everyone that's gonna watch this later on
Speaker 1: and comment if you're watching later on, if you think
Speaker 1: the Mariners have enough sauce to win a World Series.
Speaker 1: JP Crawford leadoff. That's your shortstop. Julio Rodriguez center field,
Speaker 1: who's playing well over the season. Now he is looking
Speaker 1: like a superstar and usually gets hot towards the end
Speaker 1: of the year. Cal Raley's having an insane season historically great.
Speaker 1: Randy rose Arena is playing like a superstar this year.
Speaker 1: Josh Naylor, great ad. I don't think you could have
Speaker 1: done much better. A Henney O Suarez, best bat available,
Speaker 1: best short term rental bat available, Jorge Polanco they have
Speaker 1: listed here as DH having a okay year. Dominic Canzone
Speaker 1: they have listed here in right field. And this is
Speaker 1: what they have for their lineup against right handed pitching.
Speaker 1: And then Cole Young, the rookie who's over at second
Speaker 1: base for them. You've got Williamson on the bench for
Speaker 1: them now, who's looked really good at third base. Defensively,
Speaker 1: he could replace Gino later in games. Gino could do
Speaker 1: a little DH action, So you don't think that whole
Speaker 1: mix enough.
Speaker 3: For Youuez is a superstar. I disagree, but that's all
Speaker 3: different topic. We don't have enough time because we're talking
Speaker 3: about trades. I like their lineup, I do, but why
Speaker 3: are they not winning? That's my question? Why are they
Speaker 3: not If this, if this team is so great even
Speaker 3: before they got sware, is why are they floundering at
Speaker 3: I mean, there are a couple games above five hundred,
Speaker 3: but they're not. You know what, there's something clearly missing crats.
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Speaker 1: slap pack or card purchase. I think that their bullpen
Speaker 1: is good, not great, and you can see many of
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Speaker 1: George Kirby, Logan Gilbert, Luis Castillo and Logan Evans as
Speaker 1: your five. That's a world series rotation for me, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: the bullpen is brash and munos that I really trust
Speaker 1: and then Bizardo Spear like they picked up Caleb Ferguson.
Speaker 1: I need another high leverage guy there compared to what
Speaker 1: I'm seeing across the league now?
Speaker 2: Or do you want to do a challenge.
Speaker 3: Rather Pepio just doing right down the middle of the
Speaker 3: park called the ball for his no The answer is no,
Speaker 3: they're not a World Series team right now because they
Speaker 3: haven't figured out what aj just said, how to win consistently.
Speaker 3: They have the pieces and the reason that you could
Speaker 3: say they are a World Series team. If they were
Speaker 3: in the NL West and not the AL West, we
Speaker 3: wouldn't even really be talking about this team other than
Speaker 3: they're gonna have to get hot to really make a
Speaker 3: run here. But it's the American League. We just said yesterday,
Speaker 3: it's hard to say who the best team in the
Speaker 3: American League is. If you have three legit number one starters,
Speaker 3: you have a shot. If you add to that a
Speaker 3: shortstop that I've always said, I feel like Crawford is
Speaker 3: the straw that stirs this drink, and you have an MVP.
Speaker 3: We didn't think the MVP was going to be coming
Speaker 3: from catcher. We thought it would be coming from center field.
Speaker 3: On this team. You have all the ingredients to have
Speaker 3: a really good team. You made the moves to make
Speaker 3: a run. Now they have to figure it out. Dan
Speaker 3: Wilson has to figure out how to make sure a
Speaker 3: Heneo Suarez is it a right mind space that he
Speaker 3: he knows that the organization likes him and he just
Speaker 3: continues to do what he did in Arizona. You need
Speaker 3: to make sure that cal Rawley stays fresh and wins
Speaker 3: the MVP that he's now in line to win. They
Speaker 3: need to make sure that this team believes in what
Speaker 3: that they're in, what they're doing, and what the team
Speaker 3: built and front office. Right now, Terry Depoto has given
Speaker 3: nothing but a vote of confidence to this team by
Speaker 3: making the moves that they've done. So yes, they have
Speaker 3: the team to do it right now. No, they're not
Speaker 3: a World Series team.
Speaker 1: I think they are, especially if they get one more reliever.
Speaker 1: I think they are a very legit World Series contender,
Speaker 1: and they're what about.
Speaker 3: Without one reliever? What about with one? Without one? They
Speaker 3: don't make that move.
Speaker 1: I just think that hurts the division.
Speaker 3: Do they have to win the division now?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. They can win a wildcard round because I
Speaker 1: don't know if that well. I mean, they're five games
Speaker 1: back of Houston. They're in the same spot as Texas
Speaker 1: right now, they have the same record as Texas. But
Speaker 1: projecting forward over the next couple months, this should be
Speaker 1: a good team. They should at least grab a wild
Speaker 1: card spot in an American league that is full of
Speaker 1: teams in a similar realm as them that are selling.
Speaker 1: So this team should make the playoffs, and in the
Speaker 1: playoffs they've got the rotation. In my mind, they have
Speaker 1: the lineup. I'd like to get one more high leverage reliever.
Speaker 1: Jerry Depoto, you've got fourish hours to get that done. Trade.
Speaker 1: Let's get to Shane Bieber. He is a Toronto Blue Jay.
Speaker 1: This one went down this morning. They had been looking
Speaker 1: for another starter and they land the former al Cy
Speaker 1: Young Award winner. Good job by Toronto to get him
Speaker 1: and Sir Anthony Dominguez for their bullpen. Most fans want
Speaker 1: more up in Canada. They'd like to see at least
Speaker 1: another reliever. Here's the thing about Bieber. When he's on,
Speaker 1: he's money. But he hasn't pitched in a long time,
Speaker 1: so there is some risk there. I know that he's
Speaker 1: had some rehab outings. I think he just had his
Speaker 1: fourth one looking good. But you're asking a guy to
Speaker 1: get thrust into the middle of a playoff race in
Speaker 1: late July. It was a pressure thing.
Speaker 3: It's pitched in almost mean a year and a half.
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three, so it's it's not about it if
Speaker 1: he mentally can handle it. Obviously, Ken he's been a
Speaker 1: g in the league for like ten years. But is
Speaker 1: he gonna be okay coming off of major injury? Command wise,
Speaker 1: we'll see.
Speaker 3: There's no way to another day in Akron, and there's
Speaker 3: a bunch of scouts there, so I think he will.
Speaker 3: I mean, we'll see, We'll see, We'll see. Like Shane
Speaker 3: beaver Coin flip, this dude was a horse, Sandale Contra
Speaker 3: was a horse. Obviously. We have that recency bias with Sandy,
Speaker 3: like it took him a little while. Some guys come
Speaker 3: right off with Tommy John and they go never missed
Speaker 3: a beat. Or actually, I feel better than I used
Speaker 3: to because I was pitching through pain before, so I
Speaker 3: like it. I like it for the Blue Jays because
Speaker 3: I didn't really feel like they needed to definitely solidify
Speaker 3: the piece, like they have three starters for the first
Speaker 3: three games of the playoffs and so it's more of
Speaker 3: get to the end of the season. Eric Lauer is
Speaker 3: still ahead of Shane Bieber right now. Max Schurzer's last
Speaker 3: doubting he's still ahead of Shane Bieber. It's a good
Speaker 3: depth piece. I don't think it would have been a
Speaker 3: good move if Shane Bieber goes to a team that's like,
Speaker 3: we need a third starter for the playoffs. I don't
Speaker 3: think that would have been a good move. Not say
Speaker 3: he can't do it and step in, but you just
Speaker 3: can't put a ton of pressure on a guy just
Speaker 3: coming off with Tommy Johns.
Speaker 1: Also, the upside for Shane Bieber if he's right from
Speaker 1: the jump, number one or two starter, he's that good
Speaker 1: from the jump, he's right. If he's right, I think,
Speaker 1: for example, yeah, if he's right, I think for example,
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays did their homework on Sandy al Contra
Speaker 1: and Eduard Cabrera probably called the pirates about Mitch Keller
Speaker 1: and they're still deciding what they.
Speaker 2: Want to do. No comment.
Speaker 1: But Brios, Barrios, Gossman, Bassett, Eric Klower has been awesome
Speaker 1: and he's i think leading the charge in Kate per
Speaker 1: nine for them too. So they're swinging mists. They're heading
Speaker 1: into the playoffs if you believe what he's been selling
Speaker 1: for the really the whole season now and then Surezer
Speaker 1: and Bieber, that's six good starters right there that'll play.
Speaker 1: So they're done there. The question is do they get
Speaker 1: another reliever because now guys when I'm matching up their
Speaker 1: bullpen against some of the other better bullpens in the league,
Speaker 1: they're short. For me, they're short. I know this is
Speaker 1: going to be a theme today, But there's not enough there.
Speaker 1: Okay in October, good, not great.
Speaker 2: One more that could be a Santana or a Bednar.
Speaker 1: One more, one more reliever.
Speaker 2: I don't need anything from the offense.
Speaker 1: You want to get a utility guy like a Willie
Speaker 1: Castro or something like that.
Speaker 3: I think I think there's I think there's situations in
Speaker 3: the offense where I think you'll start getting more slug.
Speaker 3: Not dissimilar to the Phillies. I think it's a way
Speaker 3: different looking lineup, but I think Laddie's slug could always
Speaker 3: go up. Bow's been really good this year because he's
Speaker 3: starting to drive guys in. He's having professional at bats.
Speaker 3: So to get more slug from him, I don't know.
Speaker 3: To me, it's it's it's a winning player. RBIs are
Speaker 3: winning is a winning stat that doesn't always show up
Speaker 3: in the slug department, doesn't show up in the damage department.
Speaker 3: But this team doesn't strike out, and they're figuring out
Speaker 3: ways to score runs, and so they don't necessarily quite
Speaker 3: need as much slug. So I agree with you. I
Speaker 3: think their I think their offense is gonna be what
Speaker 3: it is this year and they just need to keep
Speaker 3: churning along. But a four game lead. At this time
Speaker 3: of year, nobody had the Jas with a four game lead,
Speaker 3: even like four weeks ago, nobody had the Jay's with
Speaker 3: a four game lead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredible. There it is.
Speaker 1: They're four up on the Yanks, five up on Boston,
Speaker 1: and then the Rays have.
Speaker 3: Fallen backs are out of it. Last traded away all
Speaker 3: kinds of people. The game last night really killed them too.
Speaker 1: Who are they trading? They haven't traded Fairbanks yet. They
Speaker 1: haven't traded.
Speaker 3: Well, they traded yeah, but they traded yeah. And I
Speaker 3: feel like they're maybe making a couple other ones. But
Speaker 3: they've better hurry They've better hurryup to get to this game.
Speaker 3: Yonny Diaz was pitching for but he got hit by
Speaker 3: a pitch everyone.
Speaker 2: How about Pete Fairbanks to the Blue Jays.
Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna trade guys in division though.
Speaker 3: Teams don't do that a lot.
Speaker 1: Why because if I'm the Ras, though, now do that?
Speaker 3: Don't you listen to Jerry rhinestor if we don't trade guys.
Speaker 1: In division, the Twins and Tigers, the division addock. But
Speaker 1: my thing is, if you got Fairbanks in your Toronto
Speaker 1: and you said the prospect back, that prospect can burn
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays as a Ray for years to come.
Speaker 1: I don't think the race cares much about that. I think, yes,
Speaker 1: Jerry Reinsdorf cares about that. Stu Sternberg's about to sell
Speaker 1: the Rays. What does he care? I think he cares
Speaker 1: if he sells away a piece that goes to Toronto.
Speaker 3: Raise. No one knows what are doing. Hang on, I'm ready.
Speaker 3: I did to hear what you guys are saying. I'm
Speaker 3: writing down Jerry Reinsdorf trade deadline quotes by Aj Prazinski.
Speaker 3: Just come back to me for any questions.
Speaker 1: David Bednar going from the Pirates to the New York Yankees.
Speaker 1: The Yankees now have a back end of the bullpen
Speaker 1: that includes Devin Williams, who they acquired in the offseason
Speaker 1: from the Brewers. Luke Weaver, who was a star high
Speaker 1: leverage guy for them last year and now is part
Speaker 1: of a mix with two other All stars. David Bednar
Speaker 1: is one of the best relievers in baseball. In twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two and twenty twenty three, he had a two
Speaker 1: to two five ERA. He was an All Star both seasons.
Speaker 1: He took a big step back last year and then
Speaker 1: at the beginning of this year it was like what
Speaker 1: he was demoted after three bad appearances to start the season.
Speaker 1: He had retired just three of his first nine batters
Speaker 1: and it was a quick hook they sent him down.
Speaker 1: Since then, stud he's got a low low two zra
Speaker 1: hes a two to three seven ERA. He's towards the
Speaker 1: top of the league in strikeout percentage. The walk number's
Speaker 1: pretty low. I mean, there's a lot to like here.
Speaker 1: He throws ninety seven. He's been a closer for years.
Speaker 1: When he's right, he's right. We spoke about him towards
Speaker 1: the top of FT today. There's pros and cons. This
Speaker 1: guy who got demoted this year, he's faced some heat
Speaker 1: and he's cracked. Now he's gone down and fixed himself.
Speaker 1: You're going from the Pittsburgh Pirates, a top three joke
Speaker 1: in our sport right now in terms of how they
Speaker 1: run as a franchise, and they have not been in
Speaker 1: anything in his entire career. He has never pitched in
Speaker 1: big moments. Now he's going to the Yankees. Do you
Speaker 1: think this will work?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll be okay. I always I always charge. I
Speaker 3: always tend to lean towards the signe of the player
Speaker 3: can be able to do it. So, yeah, I think
Speaker 3: it can work. I hope it does work for Bednar.
Speaker 3: I hope it does.
Speaker 1: Remember the beginning of the season for Devin Williams. I'm
Speaker 1: just presenting all sides here.
Speaker 3: There's one difference. Devin Williams has done it in the
Speaker 3: biggest He's yeah, he blew he blew one save last year.
Speaker 1: But in the beginning of this year he he was
Speaker 1: It took him some time to get settled here. Does
Speaker 1: Bennar just move over to the Bronx and thrive Krats?
Speaker 1: You've played for both teams, Pirates and Yanks. What do
Speaker 1: you got.
Speaker 3: Yes, because he's gonna be in the sixth or seventh inning.
Speaker 3: They're forgetting that. You forget about those times in the game,
Speaker 3: except right now. It's tense. I tweeted it before. The
Speaker 3: Bronx is burning like it is tense there. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of stress. They don't have Superman in the lineup
Speaker 3: right now. Devin Williams Dale Budinger last night. His team
Speaker 3: bailed him out. But these are things that go through
Speaker 3: closers lives in a regular season, and when your team
Speaker 3: is four games behind in first place, you're sitting there
Speaker 3: going like every little thing, everything little thing hurts in
Speaker 3: the eighth and ninth inning. I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 3: put Bednor in the eighth and ninth inning right out
Speaker 3: of the gate. I think he's gonna be a six
Speaker 3: to seventh inning guy. I think he's gonna get the
Speaker 3: meat of the order the first the third time through.
Speaker 3: I think that's where they're gonna kind of feed him
Speaker 3: in and let Luke Weaver and Devin Williams continue to
Speaker 3: control that eighth and ninth inning.
Speaker 1: Just some context on the prospect return, because some people
Speaker 1: are saying it's pretty significant.
Speaker 2: Jeff Passen said.
Speaker 1: Among the return catcher Rafael Flores, who tore up Double
Speaker 1: A now he's at triple A. He's a top top
Speaker 1: shell framer, regarded as a big league ready catcher, A
Speaker 1: very good centerpiece. Also in the deal, ed Gleen Perez.
Speaker 1: He's nineteen years old, he said, excellent swing decisions. And
Speaker 1: then the last piece in this deal is center fielder
Speaker 1: Brian Sanchez. So three prospects moving from the Yankees to
Speaker 1: the Pirates. Funny they're they're looking for catching help. I
Speaker 1: mean not long ago.
Speaker 3: Henry Davis. And what's the other guy who hurt his arm? Rodriguez. Yeah,
Speaker 3: isn't he supposed to be pretty good? Yes, but he hasn't.
Speaker 3: He hasn't come back healthy since that injury. You always
Speaker 3: need catching, and the Yankees catching development has been elite.
Speaker 3: Don't tell Aaron gersher Fell I said that. But they
Speaker 3: have been developing catchers the last three four years. I
Speaker 3: taught Aaron Gerson Fello. He knows. So that's probably why
Speaker 3: they're doing it.
Speaker 1: This part actually does make sense. You have a team
Speaker 1: in the Pirates who have done a poor job developing
Speaker 1: catchers lately.
Speaker 2: Agreed, that's that's easy.
Speaker 1: They've had a poor job a lot everything, no pitching.
Speaker 1: They've developed some arms. Let's give them credit for stop
Speaker 1: Bubba Chandler Jones.
Speaker 3: Where's Boba Chandler.
Speaker 1: Well, they're holding him back because they don't want to
Speaker 1: pay him. But he's gonna continue. Barat Jones, he's hurt.
Speaker 1: David Bednar. They've developed some starters.
Speaker 3: I'm not even trolling just talked about he's been average,
Speaker 3: Paul has been great. He was one one he was
Speaker 3: what's the lifetime got?
Speaker 2: Mitch Keller is a very serviceable big league starter?
Speaker 3: That okay, cool? Right? Every team has at least two
Speaker 3: of those.
Speaker 1: So they've done a nice job drafting and development starters.
Speaker 1: I think that's a fair.
Speaker 3: Place still waiting for who You're gonna tell me they.
Speaker 1: All else and do better, no doubt, no doubt, tell
Speaker 1: me one. I'm not the guy that's going to stand
Speaker 1: here and defend the pirates you just did. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: if there's one part that they've done a decent job of,
Speaker 1: they have some starters, They have.
Speaker 3: Some starter he he didn't go and developed them.
Speaker 2: Their twenty six rotation is Skemes Jared Jones.
Speaker 1: Should I know? But he's coming back from a classic
Speaker 1: TJ that that's usually okay these days.
Speaker 3: So you just had it. So he's gonna miss a
Speaker 3: lot of next year.
Speaker 1: Bubba Chandler is one of the top pitcher.
Speaker 3: The b leagues. A great interview. Haven't seen a pitch
Speaker 3: in the big leagues. Numbers and triple A are okay,
Speaker 3: not fabulous. Mitch Keller Okay, but.
Speaker 2: There there's guys.
Speaker 1: That's not the part to pick on the point of this.
Speaker 1: The point of this was they've done a terrible job
Speaker 1: developing catchers. Kratz just said, the Yankees have done a
Speaker 1: nice job of developing catchers. If you're them, you get
Speaker 1: a guy who's in the upper level of the miners,
Speaker 1: who's already been through the whole development system, with a
Speaker 1: team that knows how to do it, and then you
Speaker 1: bring them over.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 1: Stearn's running the front office for the New York Mets
Speaker 1: at it again. They're finalizing a deal to acquire Cedric
Speaker 1: Mullins from the Baltimore Orioles. And in that deal you've
Speaker 1: got three prospects, Ramon Gomez, Anthony Nunez, and Chandler Marsh.
Speaker 1: I know their top end guys. None of those three
Speaker 1: are on that list, and this is a rental and Mullins
Speaker 1: is a free agent. On paper, statistically, this has not
Speaker 1: been a great year for him. But I'll bring up
Speaker 1: a tweet, for example, from Chelsea James, who covers baseball
Speaker 1: for The Posts and has been on the show before.
Speaker 1: She said, a thought on Mullins always impact the number
Speaker 1: show Clutch often was the one who found a way
Speaker 1: when younger OS hitters were struggling, made cutch plays in
Speaker 1: the athlete as often as he did spectacular ones. Offers
Speaker 1: more than meets the eye. I agree with that, and
Speaker 1: that's been a thing around the league where they're like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that numbers are playing the way they should
Speaker 1: with someone like him.
Speaker 2: You know how the metrics are.
Speaker 1: I mean I mostly go off of them, but like
Speaker 1: when I watch him in center field, he's pretty damn
Speaker 1: good out there.
Speaker 3: I think he's a great player. Yeah, he's not having
Speaker 3: a great year. He hit a good first half, but
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, I like this for the match's
Speaker 3: He's going to fit in there perfectly. He's left handed bat.
Speaker 3: He can go play center field there. They have a
Speaker 3: ray fielder, they have the left fielder. He can go.
Speaker 3: He gives Jeff mcgil a chance to not play center field.
Speaker 3: Tyrone Taylor is the other guy, right. So I like
Speaker 3: this move for the Mets. I think it makes them
Speaker 3: a better team. And for everything I've heard about said,
Speaker 3: he's a great guy. So kudos Mets.
Speaker 2: Ye joy men had some big moments. I got in.
Speaker 3: Yesterday was pretty good.
Speaker 1: This catch yesterday was ridiculous. You want that in your postseason,
Speaker 1: Mets fans know, Anddy Chavez, you want an indie Chavez
Speaker 1: like play again for an October moment.
Speaker 2: This is your guy. I think this is a perfect move.
Speaker 1: This has been speculated for like two months, ever since
Speaker 1: the Oriols.
Speaker 2: Fell out of it.
Speaker 1: People are like, this is the guy that they should
Speaker 1: go get to handle center field. It's an open spot
Speaker 1: for them. It is definitely an upgrade over Tyrone Taylor.
Speaker 1: I got into it with a couple of Mets fans
Speaker 1: on YouTube the other day when we were breaking them
Speaker 1: down and they're like, it's not.
Speaker 2: An upgrade, You're insane. It's an upgrade even just the bat.
Speaker 1: This is a down season for Cedric Mullins with the
Speaker 1: bat one five ops plus Tyrone Taylor's at sixty this
Speaker 1: is an upgrade. Okay, this is a significant upgrade at
Speaker 1: that position. There were teams that needed to fill center field.
Speaker 1: They've done that. The Mets were in on Luis Robert.
Speaker 1: They weren't going to give up one of their top
Speaker 1: prospects for him, so they went back to the Oriols.
Speaker 1: They picked up Cedric Mullins, and I actually think Mullins
Speaker 1: has the higher floor. Robert could be a star or
Speaker 1: he could be a bust. Do you think Mullens is
Speaker 1: going to go over to the Mets and fall apart.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be at least at least
Speaker 1: an average player, and he could find it again. He's
Speaker 1: had some seasons where he's really jumped with the bat.
Speaker 3: This be This might sound anti met of me, but
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a tryout in center field.
Speaker 3: The offense. The offense is really good, but center field's
Speaker 3: a position where they need somebody to step up. Very
Speaker 3: rarely do you say, hey, whoever plays the best is
Speaker 3: the one that plays normally. It's like, hey, we'll just
Speaker 3: give this guy most of the bats. Get it. Tyrone
Speaker 3: Taylor's got a sixty ops plus right now, and Cedric
Speaker 3: Mullins has you know, a league average one hundred something.
Speaker 3: Whoever gets hot, whoever gets hot with this team, because
Speaker 3: I don't think they want Jeff McNeil and center. The
Speaker 3: reason Jeff McNeil's and center is because they don't have
Speaker 3: a spot for him anywhere else, and he's been hitting okay.
Speaker 3: So to me, whoever hits the best out of you
Speaker 3: know that whole combination of outfielders will be the three
Speaker 3: two outfielders at play. One SODA's gonna play every day. Sorry,
Speaker 3: two outfielders that will play. So it's really you're everybody's
Speaker 3: starting with zero at bats starting today. They get there.
Speaker 3: Whoever hits the best when the job.
Speaker 1: No, I'm a hard pass Mullins their centerfielder.
Speaker 3: They might run someone else against the left. You but
Speaker 3: you have Nimo and left, and you have Soto and right.
Speaker 3: There's your two outfielders, and then you have one guy
Speaker 3: and it's gonna be Cedric Mullins and center for me.
Speaker 3: You don't make this trade unless you're planning on playing them.
Speaker 3: You might use Taylor against the off lefty if they
Speaker 3: face like a crochet or a freed or a sale
Speaker 3: or something like that, but other not centered. Mold's got
Speaker 3: to play.
Speaker 1: And my thing is yes, Goods in center field lately.
Speaker 1: And some people are like, oh, he's looked okay, October,
Speaker 1: that's not my center field. No, okay, darting centerfield. Try
Speaker 1: the whole way through. No, No, that's why they did
Speaker 1: three prospects for this guy. They're not bringing him into
Speaker 1: the bench. Suspects prospects well lower end because it's a rental.
Speaker 1: I mean they waited a while. We've talked about Mullins
Speaker 1: as a trade candidate for the last couple of years, months,
Speaker 1: but even the past couple of years, because people were like,
Speaker 1: are they going to resign him? It's getting close to
Speaker 1: free agency. He was a guy that people thought early on,
Speaker 1: like first two three years, they would do to one
Speaker 1: of those really cheap, team friendly extensions. I think they
Speaker 1: should have done it, but they didn't do it. They waited,
Speaker 1: so extensions didn't signed anybody. They literally haven't signed any
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 3: They need to sign him to an extension, Cedric Mollins.
Speaker 3: It went exactly how they thought. They didn't need to
Speaker 3: sign them to extension. A big extension after you had
Speaker 3: thirty homers.
Speaker 1: It's not a big extension when you're a year or
Speaker 1: two in. It's one of those extensions where you end
Speaker 1: up costing like Key Brian Hayes money or Christian Campbell money.
Speaker 2: Right, And if he has.
Speaker 3: Good enough, did they need to do that for Cedric as?
Speaker 1: I think so? If I'm if I'm an Orioles fan,
Speaker 1: I want Cedric Mowans for the next five years.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think good teammate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's in a league average, if not
Speaker 1: above average bat, and I think he handled centerfield nicely.
Speaker 1: I would have had him on this team for a while,
Speaker 1: bring some continuity, and he would have been cheap back then.
Speaker 1: I think so. I mean, only he knows if he
Speaker 1: even got any offers, but that's not their thing, and
Speaker 1: they were going through a sale process. Whatever. He's now
Speaker 1: a Met. I think he's gonna be helpful for them.
Speaker 1: Let's recap the Mets moves so far. So center field.
Speaker 1: They get Mullins relief pitching. They get Gregory Soto for
Speaker 1: him and Brooks Ray from the left side. They get
Speaker 1: Tyler Rodgers, who provides a very different look out of
Speaker 1: the bullpen, which is cool for the playoffs. Get you
Speaker 1: ground balls, all that right, and then they get Ryan Helsley,
Speaker 1: who is just here for the rest of this He's
Speaker 1: pitched in big moments, he's been a closer. It's him
Speaker 1: and Diez in the eighth and the ninth inning.
Speaker 3: Pretty good, pretty good deadline for the Mets. If you're
Speaker 3: a Mets fan, you get excited.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some Mets fans wanted a starter too.
Speaker 3: I'm just going to bang bag on this because we
Speaker 3: all know his homerism for the Phillies, so he's going
Speaker 3: to bag on this. No matter what. They could have
Speaker 3: went out and got Wan Soto, Aaron Judge, Bryce Harper,
Speaker 3: Trey Turner, Freddy Freeman, Mookie Betts, show Hey, and he
Speaker 3: still would have been like, Nope, Phillies are better. I
Speaker 3: love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love I get it.
Speaker 3: We're gonna do the Anthony Tacomo but I love I
Speaker 3: love their bullpen, their bullpen, and Tyler Rodgers the most
Speaker 3: underrated piece of that entire bullpen. Right now, look up
Speaker 3: his numbers. He is going to be a problem. You
Speaker 3: do not want to face him.
Speaker 1: The Astros got Carlos Correa back to Houston to play
Speaker 1: third base, replacing the injured De SoC Paratus, who has
Speaker 1: a significant hamstring injury and it sounds like he's done
Speaker 1: for the year. They replace him with Korea. This is
Speaker 1: a first place team in the Al West. This is
Speaker 1: your breaking news powered by MLB nine Innings. Let's get
Speaker 1: into it. First off, former Astro aircrats, how shocked are
Speaker 1: you to see this actually go down? There has to
Speaker 1: be a lot of money moving in this one, because
Speaker 1: he's got I think twelve million dollars left this year
Speaker 1: from now until the rest of the season, and then
Speaker 1: I think ninety three million dollars over three more seasons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, until twenty eight. Till twenty eight. Obviously there's some
Speaker 3: team options at the end of it that after this
Speaker 3: season doesn't look like they'll pick it up. But if
Speaker 3: somebody ever comes back from from injuries. I mean, Carlos Correa,
Speaker 3: the dude works hard. I am. I am as shocked
Speaker 3: is when I first heard that it was a possibility, Like, really,
Speaker 3: no way. I know the Astros wanted somebody because Paradis
Speaker 3: injury was very significant. It wasn't just a tweaked ham string.
Speaker 3: Seems like now they weren't going to have him back,
Speaker 3: but hey, you know, you can always use another bat
Speaker 3: if he does make it back. But this is a
Speaker 3: move that if it wasn't the Astros, I would be like, wow,
Speaker 3: why did they do this? But maybe the Astros see
Speaker 3: like a first step quickness that's going to work out
Speaker 3: for him at third base. Jeremy Paine is coming back
Speaker 3: to play short. Maybe that takes some wear and tear
Speaker 3: off of that foot. I just Astros were going to
Speaker 3: pick up almost all of Aeronado's contract in the off season.
Speaker 3: Are they willing to pick up almost all of this?
Speaker 3: Because I don't see the Twins saying, oh, yeah, we've
Speaker 3: got extra money, we'll pick up some of this. So
Speaker 3: it'll be interesting to see where it's at. But I
Speaker 3: this is a case of water levels out. You gotta
Speaker 3: think Carls Korey is going to play better unless there's
Speaker 3: something significantly physically hampering him.
Speaker 1: And what have we all been saying? He wanted to
Speaker 1: it's his no trade clause. He wasn't going to go
Speaker 1: anywhere but back to Houston, a place that he was
Speaker 1: down to stay with. But Houston generally doesn't lock up
Speaker 1: their guys to these really long term deals. They've done
Speaker 1: it with a few, but not many. Right, al two
Speaker 1: A keeps getting them, but well two.
Speaker 3: Is the one guy. Yes, he's like the fakes, right.
Speaker 3: I just want to know the money, the money in
Speaker 3: the prospects, because if Houston is eating all the money,
Speaker 3: then they probably didn't have to send much back right now.
Speaker 3: That's how it works, Like the more money Minnesota has
Speaker 3: to eat to send him there, the better prospects you
Speaker 3: usually get in return. So that's what I want to.
Speaker 1: See they're not eating all the money. I mean the
Speaker 1: latest I'm trying to get it.
Speaker 3: It's I'm breaking as we're talking.
Speaker 1: I'll give you a tweet though, like Bob night and
Speaker 1: Go said the fifty million of his contract as the
Speaker 1: Astros had desired, but still they eat a significant amount.
Speaker 1: And other major league players are involved in this mega deal.
Speaker 3: Major league players, like major league young guys like a
Speaker 3: Chas McCormick. I mean, what are we look talking about it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out in the next few minutes as
Speaker 1: we're talking about it, we'll probably be Carlos.
Speaker 3: Correa was one hell of a player for the Astros, Okay,
Speaker 3: if he can go back and be a semblance of
Speaker 3: that with the team they have now Payna the way
Speaker 3: he's playing, they get Alvarez back, they're pitching, and people
Speaker 3: are saying they're in unseas and al Contra and Kelly
Speaker 3: and all these other people. If they make another move Astros.
Speaker 3: As much as we loved on what the Mayors did,
Speaker 3: Astros don't forget have a five game lead and they
Speaker 3: know how to win in the postseason, and you have
Speaker 3: Hater and a Brady at the back end. It's still
Speaker 3: a damn good team.
Speaker 1: They have been missing Jeremy Pannya.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Alvarez pretty much all year.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have Paanya for the stretch run. Bradis is done,
Speaker 1: You're gonna have your on Alvarez. You would think at
Speaker 1: some point in the next month. This team has a
Speaker 1: five lead in the American League West, So they're adding
Speaker 1: core and you're a don Avares. That's a good team. Also,
Speaker 1: they're still trying to get a starter as we speak.
Speaker 1: I've seen multiple insiders talk about how they're still looking
Speaker 1: for a starter from Dylan Ceesta, Merril Kelly, and you
Speaker 1: name it. They're asking about him, Sandy al Contry. They
Speaker 1: last week were scouting the Sandy versus Dylan Ce's game
Speaker 1: to watch both of them. There's their division lead, there's
Speaker 1: sixty two and forty seven. Manager Joe Espada has done
Speaker 1: an incredible job this year. Craps Yeah, and Dana Brown.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the Cubs trade. You're not happy
Speaker 1: if you're an Astros fan and you lose Kyle Tucker.
Speaker 1: But Cam Smith right off the jump contributor and Essikrates Yeah,
Speaker 1: eastak Prades was great for them in the first half,
Speaker 1: he was an All Star and Kratz cam Smith has
Speaker 1: become a plus defender in the outfield in five minutes.
Speaker 3: He did love. Maybe the reason he wasn't that great
Speaker 3: at the beginning of the season, his glove was still
Speaker 3: being broken in. Cam Smith wasn't like, they're teaching him
Speaker 3: to play the outfield in the big leagues and his
Speaker 3: offense nothing but improve the whole time. Slam dunk on
Speaker 3: that one, slam dunkle on the east Side Paradis trade.
Speaker 3: Slam dunk on the fact that some people were like, Eh,
Speaker 3: you know, Peanya, he's he's good. Is he ever gonna
Speaker 3: be that great? Astros said, we think he is going
Speaker 3: to be the next Carlos Correa at shortstop. They let
Speaker 3: Carlos Correa go, Like it seems like every decision that
Speaker 3: they make minus Jose Bray, you they kind of tough
Speaker 3: finding first baseman. You know, they come in and kind
Speaker 3: of struggle a little bit, but they have just continued
Speaker 3: to fill the holes that they need to fill. So
Speaker 3: it makes me say, why would this Carlos Correa thing
Speaker 3: not work out? Why would this not be a good
Speaker 3: move for the Astros. And you said, Carlos Correa was
Speaker 3: a hell of a player for the Astros. He was
Speaker 3: a hell of a player for the Twins minus you know,
Speaker 3: five hundred and eighty at bats one season, and you
Speaker 3: know it's three hundred and sixty this year. Like if
Speaker 3: somebody's gonna figure it out, the track record, says a
Speaker 3: thirty year old Carlos Correa, not thirty four, not thirty five.
Speaker 3: A thirty year old Carlos Correa will figure it out.
Speaker 3: Gets two hot months. This Astros team could be in
Speaker 3: the World Series again.
Speaker 1: There's more the Astros as we're talking, pick up an outfielder. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I've got it from multiple I've got it from multiple
Speaker 1: thing yep, yep, Okay, I think Michael Schwab.
Speaker 3: Don't get don't get tricked.
Speaker 1: Here Mark finds confirming it as well. And now I'm
Speaker 1: seeing more flow through and Brian McTaggert Jesus Sanchez from
Speaker 1: the Marlins for Ryan Gus Jesus. Okay, So they get
Speaker 1: the lefty bat that they were looking for as well, right,
Speaker 1: because they were looking for a left handed bat Perea
Speaker 1: right handed bat. But that's a different hole that they're plugging.
Speaker 1: It's Grady, Yes, this is Sanchez. Now Haeseu Sanchez in
Speaker 1: the outfield, Dana Brown's wheeling and dealing, and that's an
Speaker 1: upgrade for them in the outfields. So now in the corners,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have Hazu Sanchez and Cam Smith instead of
Speaker 1: Taylor Tremmel.
Speaker 3: And the Rangers got Danny Kolum.
Speaker 1: Yeah, roomy, but okay, So let's look at this Astros lineup.
Speaker 1: Now we've got Hayesu Sanchez, Cam Smith in the outfields.
Speaker 2: Jacob Melton.
Speaker 1: I think that Jake Myers is coming back at some point, right,
Speaker 1: and he was great before he went down. So that's
Speaker 1: your outfield ish, right, You've got your down at d
Speaker 1: H when he comes back. Good Gyner Diaz is your catcher.
Speaker 1: Him and Karatini. That's pretty good catching combo. Christian Walker
Speaker 1: at first super slow, starts got a little better. L
Speaker 1: he's a great defender. I mean, look at their infield
Speaker 1: defense now. Paenya is a goal glover. Christian Walker is
Speaker 1: a goal glover.
Speaker 3: I think a goal glover.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Karre is a goal glover. I think
Speaker 1: I think Kara is going to be good at third.
Speaker 3: I think he'll be fine.
Speaker 1: I think he'll be better at third now and he's
Speaker 1: getting and he's gotten dart he can he can sling it.
Speaker 3: He's gonna take him a couple of games, probably get
Speaker 3: used to it. But interesting.
Speaker 1: They'll play tune around a little bit that second as well. Right,
Speaker 1: Dubon can play second once Panya comes back. Bryce Matthews
Speaker 1: has been playing some second, like now you've got a
Speaker 1: mix here.
Speaker 3: As Joe Spondas has got a nice team though, but
Speaker 3: that he didn't before. But he's got a really nice
Speaker 3: team now.
Speaker 2: They have a million starters coming back.
Speaker 1: I mean, if even one or two of them come
Speaker 1: back and looks good, that helps to at least fill
Speaker 1: out the regular season rotation.
Speaker 2: They're trying to get a big name starter.
Speaker 3: They get another big game start as well.
Speaker 1: They have Hunter Brown and fran Brivaldez already. So there's
Speaker 1: your game one and two starters for the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Pretty good. Do you think they go big with a starter,
Speaker 3: because Spencer Araghetty looks like he'll be back and ready.
Speaker 3: Is he not good enough for your third? For your third?
Speaker 3: I think they do. John Hayman. John Hayman just said
Speaker 3: they're negotiating with Silver pitching fronts. But the Adstros still
Speaker 3: have a real shot to acquire seas. It's not quite
Speaker 3: Aaron Judge, but the Adstros are trying to add somebody.
Speaker 1: Ceased for me. What about Merrill, Kelly Great? Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: either of those see.
Speaker 3: Kelly al Contra, any of them? Bring it on? Do
Speaker 3: you want Kelly over Gallon? I think Allen. I think Gallen.
Speaker 3: I think Gallen is a change of scenery guy. At
Speaker 3: this point. I think he's been there's been too much
Speaker 3: history there. Sometimes I don't know. Sometimes guys just need
Speaker 3: to get out of there and and move on. And
Speaker 3: there's you know, free agent year and this and that,
Speaker 3: and if I'm the Astros, I would love to I
Speaker 3: would love to have Zach Gallen for two months and say, listen,
Speaker 3: we've noticed even if you're listen, sometimes even if you're
Speaker 3: making it up, like hey, Zach, we noticed there's a
Speaker 3: little glove thing you do where you throw your fastball
Speaker 3: and he goes over and he's you know what, guys,
Speaker 3: you're right, and then you feel like he gets confident again.
Speaker 2: We don't have time to get into the whole story,
Speaker 2: but we have two hours.
Speaker 1: Wait. I just wanted to summarize. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: can go into it all the example from last year.
Speaker 1: You say Kikuchi last year was terrible, was not good
Speaker 1: with the Blue Jays. No, he's been told the same
Speaker 1: things for years, the Astros tell him. And how did
Speaker 1: he do for the Astros down the stretch?
Speaker 3: I don't think he did very good. He was I'm kidding.
Speaker 3: He went out and freaking shoved and dominated the league.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was, lan I'm with you.
Speaker 3: The Dylan Cease comparison is too eerily similar. Dylan Ceas
Speaker 3: is leading the league in strikeouts for nine Like, you
Speaker 3: don't think that they're going to figure out, you know,
Speaker 3: get some of the areas where he's leaking, like, hey,
Speaker 3: this is what we're figuring. This is what we're seeing.
Speaker 3: The punch outs are there, the velo's there, This is
Speaker 3: why we feel like you're getting in trouble. This is
Speaker 3: where you know, we see we can stay away from
Speaker 3: that trouble for you. Similar to what they did with Kakuchi,
Speaker 3: because it was it was a guy that was getting
Speaker 3: a lot of swing and miss and then what did
Speaker 3: he go to. He went to straight for seemer, ditch
Speaker 3: the sinker and went for seamer curveball. So he was
Speaker 3: just here and here oh weird, Dylan Cees just saying and.
Speaker 1: They're working hard on getting him. That's the latest tweet
Speaker 1: from Ken. They're working hard on trying to get him.
Speaker 1: He just tweeted that after hiss quote working hard to
Speaker 1: acquire sees from the Padres sources telling me no indication
Speaker 1: at this point that the deal is close yet. Okay,
Speaker 1: the point here is that, The point here is I
Speaker 1: love this.
Speaker 3: It has been boring for a couple of days. This
Speaker 3: is what I like. You know what. I like this
Speaker 3: because multiple teams are trying and I love it. Multiple
Speaker 3: teams because there's no super team think they have a chain,
Speaker 3: so they're all throwing their chips on the table and saying,
Speaker 3: screw prospects, We're going for it. And I love it.
Speaker 3: You know what else? I love It's pitching, it's hitting,
Speaker 3: It's this, it's that. And when anytime people that we
Speaker 3: don't think are gonna get treated like nobody on God's
Speaker 3: Green Earth before this season started, before July started, would
Speaker 3: have had Carlos Korea getting traded back to the Houston Astros. Nobody,
Speaker 3: I don't care who you are. Nobody thought that could have.
Speaker 1: Nobody do you know who the Astro has played tomorrow
Speaker 1: and the Red Sox so awesome, but pretty close, Pretty
Speaker 1: Red Sox for the weekend.
Speaker 3: In Boston, or in Boston Alex Bregman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe they'll try and get Bregman tonight. No, I'm
Speaker 1: just kidding.
Speaker 3: Maybe the Padres will get k and put them in
Speaker 3: the left field. Stop.
Speaker 1: All right, that's good breaking news right there, and there's
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Speaker 3: I'll take it easy one you guys. Whatever. Hey, Mike,
Speaker 3: you might want to back up. Nah, bro, I'm good
Speaker 3: right here. Yeah, you got no chance of getting it
Speaker 3: out of the infield anyway. Last time you gave me
Speaker 3: something to hear, and I took your d Come on
Speaker 3: in here. What was that?
Speaker 1: That's not fair? I was, are you.
Speaker 3: Ready save it? That's terrible? Hey man, dog, give me
Speaker 3: something to hit?
Speaker 1: All right, Let's talk about Kratz's buddy Danny Kalum going
Speaker 1: to the Texas Range. There it is Rangers get him
Speaker 1: from the Twins. I mean, Kratz, the Twins are emptying
Speaker 1: out their entire bullpen. Griffin Jackson is looking around like
Speaker 1: I'm the only one left. Duran gone, Brock Stewart gone,
Speaker 1: Kolob now gone. Who's had a great year. I mean,
Speaker 1: every team's trying to make sure that if they're a
Speaker 1: playoff contender, you get your left handed relief pitching in line.
Speaker 1: Oh what do you have for us on this one?
Speaker 1: And for the Rangers doing a little bye, a little
Speaker 1: bye right here, and we said, hey, what are they
Speaker 1: going to do? They're trying to figure out what they want.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't go wrong here on adding to
Speaker 1: a strength which has been their bullpen and their pitching
Speaker 1: staff in general.
Speaker 3: I mean, Cody klem Is is still going to be able
Speaker 3: to pitch out of the Twins bullpen. He might have to
Speaker 3: throw it tomorrow. Dudes from dudes from Rochester or Saint
Speaker 3: Paul are getting called up to Minnesota as we speak.
Speaker 3: But the Rangers. Listen, the Rangers are never gonna do
Speaker 3: as much, be able to do as much as the
Speaker 3: Mariners or the Astros have done. Could they make big moves? Yes,
Speaker 3: I think they believe their team is just played poorly
Speaker 3: to start the season for whatever reason, they can't hit fastball,
Speaker 3: whatever it is. They have a stable, stable part of
Speaker 3: their team and it's this rotation. Think it's still the
Speaker 3: best era in baseball. You add to it with little
Speaker 3: pieces and you hope that that rotation with Uvaldi, with
Speaker 3: de Gram continue to do what they've done and the
Speaker 3: offense actually starts to show up on a nightly basis.
Speaker 3: To me, the Rangers little ads like this, and they've
Speaker 3: been hot. Stay hot and see if you can ride
Speaker 3: it to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Right, let's get to some breaking news. F T breaking news.
Speaker 1: There are no Padres prospects left. The Padres have nobody
Speaker 1: to play their minor league games.
Speaker 3: They traded their whole farm system and I love it.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: I love it because they just had a draft whe
Speaker 3: they signed twenty other ones. They just restart, restock.
Speaker 1: Good stuff from Robert Murray covering this team and Ken
Speaker 1: Rosenthal Robert Murray on the Ryan O'Hearn pickup, and then
Speaker 1: Ken reports AJ Prowler never stops and gives credit to
Speaker 1: Robert for now on this when source confirms the Pods
Speaker 1: are acquiring o'hearne and Ramon Loriano from the Orioles.
Speaker 3: Oh, I've never seen Robert without a hat on. He's
Speaker 3: got better hair than you, and he's got bigger biceps
Speaker 3: than you, Scott, so he must know what he's doing better.
Speaker 1: Sources too, Yeah, but not bigger biceps.
Speaker 3: I've seen Robert a lot. I've seen Scott a lot.
Speaker 3: Robert's doing this one. In that picture, he's doing this one.
Speaker 1: Oh they bring out Yeah, yeah, I can't do that.
Speaker 1: That'll turn into a meme if I try to do that.
Speaker 1: I can't do that anyway. Ryan O'Hearn hit a freaking
Speaker 1: tank yesterday. Pop some big boy pop. He's an all
Speaker 1: star now. He joins the Padres party, which up until
Speaker 1: the last few days had been a problem the offense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Loriano slots in the left field for him,
Speaker 3: you know. Hearn can slot into dh boom boom there,
Speaker 3: and they got a catcher, and they got a stud closer,
Speaker 3: and they got another starter, and yeah, they gave up prospects,
Speaker 3: but prospects from aspects whatever.
Speaker 1: And we're all still looking around, like, when are they
Speaker 1: gonna do something else?
Speaker 3: Oh they are just didn't know. Still came on as
Speaker 3: like I think they're done, no chance, or they're gonna
Speaker 3: They're gonna come up with someone else. Two minutes from now.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be like breaking news. Padres trade, don diego
Speaker 3: to Boston.
Speaker 1: For well, like, what else do they need to do
Speaker 1: at this point?
Speaker 3: Restock their farm system? The astro is right there, John.
Speaker 1: M oh my gosh, but it's not done. The Dylan
Speaker 1: Ceas talks, that's not a thing yet.
Speaker 2: No, those are just rumors.
Speaker 1: What's real is that they got o'hearne and Loreano, which
Speaker 1: you could make a case was the top need for
Speaker 1: this team heading into yesterday. They definitely needed some offensive up.
Speaker 3: They got both the National League baby, good luck making
Speaker 3: it through that land of land of living giants. Holy cow?
Speaker 1: How about the n L West? Can they win the
Speaker 1: NL West?
Speaker 3: Okay? But you got Padres, Dodgers, Cubs, Brewers, Mets, Phillies.
Speaker 1: Padres are three games back of the Dodgers.
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying those six teams are probably going
Speaker 3: to be your six playoff teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look at what four today? A lot, A lot in
Speaker 3: the last day and a half A lot, right, and
Speaker 3: then the other two. I don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 3: But as somebody wrote, the Cubs are finalized to deal.
Speaker 3: That was said. Breakfast had been to Jeed Oyer. He
Speaker 3: is just now about the weak up. That's so funny.
Speaker 2: There's six Padres Dodgers matchups left this season.
Speaker 3: One of them, I can't wait.
Speaker 1: Oh, you have one for Fox nice August one or
Speaker 1: they it's the Augush so it's soon. Yeah, Saturday August sixteenth,
Speaker 1: if you want to hear ajey third? Oh oh the
Speaker 1: late August one? Yep, yep, Saturday August twenty third Dodgers
Speaker 1: Padres on f S one. Here's the standings, three game
Speaker 1: separation between the Dodgers and the Padres. Everybody boohooing all
Speaker 1: off season. Oh, the Dodgers are gonna win the division
Speaker 1: by fifty games. I mean, the Padres have quite the
Speaker 1: trade deadline compared to the Dodger just about arguably less
Speaker 1: holes to fill. They're waiting for a lot of pitching
Speaker 1: to come back. But what did you tell me about
Speaker 1: injured pitchers? They don't always come back. That's wild. And
Speaker 1: for the Orioles, they are unloading all of these short
Speaker 1: term pieces. It's funny Ramon Leriano is having a great
Speaker 1: year for Baltimore.
Speaker 2: That was a nice pickup for them.
Speaker 3: He's got a cheap option for next year.
Speaker 1: He does, so the Ools are trading pieces away for
Speaker 1: twenty six.
Speaker 3: But we matched that. We said, why would you pick
Speaker 3: that guy up? Not that he's not a good player,
Speaker 3: just that was the one didn't need more outfield but
Speaker 3: I guess need an outfielder.
Speaker 1: That's the difference he was saying in the off season
Speaker 1: when the Orioles were making their dumb moves, This one
Speaker 1: actually worked out for them in terms of the player producing.
Speaker 2: We just thought that they had.
Speaker 1: A logjam with talent, and you know, eventually turned into
Speaker 1: not that they're the same position, but a guy like
Speaker 1: Kobe Neo who hasn't hit yet, saying, hey, when are
Speaker 1: you going to give a shot to some of us?
Speaker 2: Plus yeahtours before that, they.
Speaker 3: Just signed Tyler O'Neill, right, is now healthy and hit
Speaker 3: four homers in consecutive games, so true, just stay healthy,
Speaker 3: stay healthy.
Speaker 1: But he's got I think a player option for the
Speaker 1: next couple of years, so he's gonna stick with that
Speaker 1: for now.
Speaker 2: Neil O'Neil signed.
Speaker 3: A three year deal. I think you have a three
Speaker 3: year deal.
Speaker 1: Three I'm pretty nerdy. I'm pretty sure that there's an option.
Speaker 1: There's three years, well three years, forty nine and a
Speaker 1: half million dollars opt out after year one, so it's
Speaker 1: but obviously I think he's gonna say sixteen and a
Speaker 1: half million dollars each season. He hasn't played enough this
Speaker 1: year to hit free agency again, don't you think. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he's he's staying there for the next couple of seasons.
Speaker 1: That's why they're not trading him. But if you're the Padres,
Speaker 1: you have a very different looking team for them, and
Speaker 1: that includes their farm system at MGM with this tweet
Speaker 1: Padres farm system after the deadline one lonely Kitten or
Speaker 1: Chihuaha because that's their Al Paso team logo.
Speaker 3: You know, trade everybody. If I'm a big league player,
Speaker 3: trade everybody. I don't care about prospects. Don't talk to me.
Speaker 3: About next year. Am I wrong? Craws, don't talk to me.
Speaker 3: Don't talk to me about next year, five years to No,
Speaker 3: I got this, I got this year, and that's it.
Speaker 3: You can't say it. You can't say it loud enough
Speaker 3: us to hear. We need that megaphone at the bottom
Speaker 3: of the screen. It is not against the prospects, it
Speaker 3: is not against the future. Of course, all these Padres
Speaker 3: guys they want to win. They signed up for ten, eleven,
Speaker 3: twelve years. They signed up for the money, yes, but
Speaker 3: they also signed up because they feel like it's a
Speaker 3: place that they're gonna win more than one year. You
Speaker 3: know what, you get these rentals in. It doesn't work
Speaker 3: out this year, do it again next year because there
Speaker 3: will be more minor league players to play.
Speaker 1: And in most of these trades, the teams don't give
Speaker 1: up their top few prospects. The Padres did give up
Speaker 1: their top prospects.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is the way Proler looks at it.
Speaker 3: I can just find other ones. I can find other
Speaker 3: He just signed twenty draft picks and plus plus uh
Speaker 3: the Latin American signings.
Speaker 1: That's his strength.
Speaker 3: So he signs, he signs twenty new prospects and Latin America,
Speaker 3: and all they guys gotta do, all these guys gotta
Speaker 3: do is go out next year. And I don't know
Speaker 3: what the Padres draffick like is. I don't follo out
Speaker 3: that closely, but all that some of these guys gotta
Speaker 3: do is go out bang for one year and guess
Speaker 3: what Prober can trade them again next year for more
Speaker 3: players that are proven. I'dn't rather have proven players. I
Speaker 3: don't rather have proven players than prospects. Just saying, but
Speaker 3: that's my and I love this.
Speaker 2: There you go, the lonely cat padres Can.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you guys didn't think the Mariners are a
Speaker 1: World Series contender?
Speaker 2: I didres are a.
Speaker 1: World Series contender.
Speaker 3: Depends on if King comes back.
Speaker 1: Yes, even if well Darbish was better last start. But
Speaker 1: let's say Darbish is not. Let's say he's a four.
Speaker 3: Well, let's see what they do with sees. Okay, their
Speaker 3: bullpen is good enough, Yes, their lineup is improved. Yes,
Speaker 3: I gotta see what they do starting.
Speaker 2: Was they have the best bullpen in baseball.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Their bullpen is yes, Okay, their
Speaker 3: lineup significantly improved today, significantly.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, the Padres land Will Wagner, Billy Wagner's
Speaker 1: son from the Blue Jays. But some people are like,
Speaker 1: does this mean they have something else up their sleeve?
Speaker 3: Will wager at.
Speaker 1: He's on the Blue Jays. I'm saying, does this mean
Speaker 1: Will Wagner is replacing somebody else on the big league roster?
Speaker 3: The you can't trade. You can't trade the chron zone.
Speaker 3: You can trade anybody, but you can't trade the chron zone.
Speaker 1: Donald Sell said it could happen.
Speaker 3: F P. Santangelo, by the way, just said the Padres
Speaker 3: have canceled the rest of their minor league season because
Speaker 3: they have no players. So good.
Speaker 1: The Padres minor league jokes are epic, epic, epic, Right, but.
Speaker 3: You know what, if they make the World Series, they
Speaker 3: don't care, right, Crowdsey, they don't care. Nobody cares. Proller
Speaker 3: don't care, nobody cares Padred. That place is gonna be electric,
Speaker 3: bro Peco. It already was unbelievad.
Speaker 1: Crazy sold the rest of the year. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: they're gonna set their attendance record.
Speaker 3: A few more times. They said it every game last year,
Speaker 3: like every game was a new one.
Speaker 1: What they do is standing room onely increases by one
Speaker 1: every day.
Speaker 3: You think you're joking.
Speaker 1: Hey, set records. I would do the same thing.
Speaker 3: They got people on top of each other's shoulders. It's
Speaker 3: a club there they got they're gonna have twenty They're
Speaker 3: gonna petition to the league. See if they can have
Speaker 3: twenty seven guys on their active roster. They're just gonna
Speaker 3: be like, there's be running dudes through the options.
Speaker 1: The Rockies traded Jake Bird. That's probably one of the
Speaker 1: only deals we didn't get to. But Jake Bird also
Speaker 1: goes to the Yankees. Yankees bullpen over the past month
Speaker 1: has been a hot mess, so that was the goal
Speaker 1: today because they had acquired their right with Rosario and
Speaker 1: Austin Slater. They fixed third base with Ryan McMahon. We
Speaker 1: had a walk off hit last night, so that's how
Speaker 1: trades work. And then here's the latest for the Yanks.
Speaker 1: Jake Bird for Rock Riggio. That's a name and Ben Shields. Okay,
Speaker 1: Jake Bird's been pretty good this year.
Speaker 3: Yank has done a nice job. Thinks have done on
Speaker 3: this show.
Speaker 1: Yep, Merril Kelly goes to the Texas Rangers. Chris Young
Speaker 1: World Series winning executive from twenty twenty three is buying.
Speaker 1: We like it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Merril Kelly. First starter to go now a damn
Speaker 3: come off for starters.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think most of the long term starters are
Speaker 1: just not going to move.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think the race is too high. Agreed, and
Speaker 3: it's all rental.
Speaker 1: This one had to move. This one had to move.
Speaker 2: He's a free agent.
Speaker 3: See Gallon. There's some rentals out there, Charlie Morton, Sigano.
Speaker 1: But seasons on a contender. Yeah, Gallon should move, Chicano
Speaker 1: should move. I don't think I think teams really like him.
Speaker 3: I don't think Sigano moves. I think Zach Gallen, Moose.
Speaker 3: I think those are the three, and I don't think
Speaker 3: any of the I just think the price is too high.
Speaker 3: Like you said, starting pitchers that are available for more
Speaker 3: years of control. Teams are looking at what a even
Speaker 3: a one year rental for an entire season costs, and
Speaker 3: they're not going to make the move. Meryl Kelly to
Speaker 3: the Rangers. Great for him, a guy that's not afraid
Speaker 3: of contact, going to pitch in Texas, the number one
Speaker 3: toughest park to hit home runs in. Bring it on,
Speaker 3: Meryl Kelly's like, if I hadn't increased my free agent value.
Speaker 3: I'm doing it now.
Speaker 1: Remember a week and a half ago when the Diamondbacks
Speaker 1: we're still thinking about competing and then kind of fell
Speaker 1: apart again, here we go, so they traded Gino Suarez,
Speaker 1: Josh Naylor, Meryl Kelly, and still might trade Zach Allen.
Speaker 2: This is what you do. You're in or you're out.
Speaker 3: And happen to have or you do the hokey pokey.
Speaker 1: Right, which some teams, but they happen to have guys
Speaker 1: that are free agents coming up, so you have to
Speaker 1: do this. This isn't your year. You re rack this.
Speaker 1: This team isn't rebuilding or anything. They could be good
Speaker 1: next year.
Speaker 3: The third baseman, one of their starters. Who else? That's
Speaker 3: it right now? Right, those are free agents at the
Speaker 3: end of the year. Only one left is Gallon.
Speaker 1: That's the only one that should move because he's a
Speaker 1: free agent after this year. I mean, Charlie Morton should
Speaker 1: move if a team likes him enough. Here, let me
Speaker 1: go over what a problem is though, guys. I mean
Speaker 1: you might see a couple pending free agent starters that
Speaker 1: are on bad teams not move. And here's why I'm
Speaker 1: trying to look this up. As I'm talking about it.
Speaker 1: Charlie Morton is making fifteen million dollars this year, fifteen
Speaker 1: million dollars. At times, he's looked looked done fair. The
Speaker 1: beginning of the season, he was getting rocked. It's looked
Speaker 1: better lately. But some teams might say I'll take him,
Speaker 1: you eat most of the money, and then the Orioles
Speaker 1: might say, no, we're not doing that, and then you
Speaker 1: don't have a deal. It's easier to pay the guys
Speaker 1: that aren't making that kind of money. Yeah, if they
Speaker 1: get asked to eat the money, yeah, but they're not
Speaker 1: eating all the money.
Speaker 3: Let's say Charlie Morton is own five million dollars for
Speaker 3: the rest of the season, just to make an easy number. Yep,
Speaker 3: you're paying all five million. You might as well eat
Speaker 3: four million of it and get a better prospect, like
Speaker 3: you're buying. Teams are buying prospects. You're saving a million,
Speaker 3: and you bought a prospect instead of paid just Charlie
Speaker 3: Morton to pitch meaningless innings for your team.
Speaker 2: I agree, but.
Speaker 1: You have to get ownership approval for that. It doesn't
Speaker 1: always happen, That's all I mean. Merril Kelly is a
Speaker 1: much better option and he's making half that. He's making
Speaker 1: seven million dollars this year. Yeah, that's an easy trade.
Speaker 3: Okay. Charlie Morton would be a great fit for the Cubs. Yeah, agreed,
Speaker 3: veteran guy, been around the hitching huge games.
Speaker 1: We have more trades.
Speaker 3: You're going the Angels trade.
Speaker 1: I was gonna go to the next one, but we
Speaker 1: can do that one too, real quick one that's right
Speaker 1: below there. Uh oh is that a real trade? Though?
Speaker 1: You need to put a tweet next to it. Team
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. But anyway, Oswald Praza goes to the Angels.
Speaker 1: Praza was probably gonna get sent back down, so the
Speaker 1: Angels grab him.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Apparently Parazza was the big piece that the Reds
Speaker 1: wanted for Luis Castillo a few years ago, and the
Speaker 1: Yankees were like, we will not give you a prospect
Speaker 1: of that caliber.
Speaker 3: Is there anyone that type more prospects than the Yankees?
Speaker 2: That he works for them?
Speaker 3: Ever, they hype them in, people keep buying them.
Speaker 1: All.
Speaker 2: Right, let's see the next one. We got another one.
Speaker 1: They're coming in hot now because this is the last
Speaker 1: thirty is another one. Yeah, this one actually is real.
Speaker 1: Willie Cashro to the Cubs.
Speaker 3: Willis was like.
Speaker 1: Willie Cashow is a Chicago Cub. He can play a
Speaker 1: number of different positions, including third at times. I mean,
Speaker 1: Matt Shaw has been raking in the second half. So
Speaker 1: they said, you know, we're riding this. We don't need
Speaker 1: Geno Suarez. That was their decision.
Speaker 3: But Willie Castro could play everywhere, right, so he he
Speaker 3: can give you know, d sometimes for him.
Speaker 1: Also, what you need to do as a contender is
Speaker 1: make sure that you've got extra depth. And Castro can
Speaker 1: be a starting player if someone gets hurt, right I feel.
Speaker 1: But also if someone gets hurt, Castro can fill a
Speaker 1: number of spots for you. Yeah, because guess what starting
Speaker 1: tomorrow you lose a player. Oh well, can't really replace them,
Speaker 1: isn't it. There's two months last flooded with injuries, and
Speaker 1: you can't replace the guy for two, if not three.
Speaker 2: Months, if you make a playoff run. That's just how
Speaker 2: it works.
Speaker 1: Except for the dump deadline, which was only a thing
Speaker 1: for one year a couple of years ago, still could
Speaker 1: be a thing.
Speaker 2: Angels have a lot of free agents.
Speaker 1: If they fall out of it in a month, dump deadline,
Speaker 1: we could have a dump deadline special. You know, I
Speaker 1: loved it. They got rid of what six guys in
Speaker 1: like five minutes.
Speaker 3: Guys they just traded for Yeah Lopez, all those guys
Speaker 3: they just traded for him.
Speaker 1: That was freaking wild, all right. So Castro goes to
Speaker 1: the Cubs. The Twins have now this, According to Dan
Speaker 1: Hayes of the Athletics, the Twins have now traded five
Speaker 1: players off their roster today alone, and they've traded seven
Speaker 1: this week.
Speaker 3: Good thing, good things. S Paul is close.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hey, there are going to be a lot
Speaker 1: of happy Triple A players in are getting a big
Speaker 1: league bar.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: So Willie Castro, Mike Soroca, and Andrew Kittridge with twenty
Speaker 1: eight minutes to spare for the Cubs.
Speaker 3: Does that good enough? Cup fans? You tell me Cup fans.
Speaker 1: At the end of the show, when the deadline hits,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do our winners and losers right now, right now. Yes,
Speaker 1: the Padres will be on the winning side. The Cubs
Speaker 1: will not be on the winning side. I don't know.
Speaker 3: We'll see right there. Right now. This enough. I love
Speaker 3: it now, I said, right now, what do you mean?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 3: Right now, there's thirty minutes to go twenty seven minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Willie Castro this year a bit above league average bat,
Speaker 1: All star last year?
Speaker 2: What did he end up last year?
Speaker 1: Second half tailed off a little bit for him last year,
Speaker 1: but last three seasons league average bat, number of different positions,
Speaker 1: blue guy good Uh. Jesse Rogers just said Cubs needed
Speaker 1: a play like Castro can playing field outfield and PCA's
Speaker 1: backup in centerfield.
Speaker 3: I love that all the Cup fans in the chat
Speaker 3: are saying, no, this is not enough.
Speaker 2: Cubs fans, where are you at?
Speaker 1: Bring it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, need starters, need starters. I'm with you, right, seven
Speaker 1: game series right now? Okay, who's who's pitching in the
Speaker 1: seven game series for the Cubs? They lost Justin Steele
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, which sucks. Matthew Boyd's been
Speaker 1: an All star boom he's pitching. Showed him Naga he's pitching,
Speaker 1: mm hmm, Caid Horn. Colin Ray's not starting a playoff
Speaker 1: game for me, Soroka.
Speaker 3: For me? Okay, we need it's a Red Sox steak
Speaker 3: because he's already tweeting.
Speaker 1: Right, But for the Cubs, can you give me more
Speaker 1: than two starters that you feel really about in a
Speaker 1: playoff series against the Dodgers, ty if he comes back, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tyon in Monaga Boyd, Mar.
Speaker 3: Matt Clement, Brian Dempster, Brian Dempster, he's closing, John Lester.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cubs fans are freaking right now.
Speaker 3: Okay, Jack, go you can't go all in the way
Speaker 3: that they went all in with Kyle Tucker and not
Speaker 3: get a sick I'm just trying to pull up their
Speaker 3: starting rotation here and not get a significant starter. Cause
Speaker 3: you're going, Ben Brown, Is he hurt right now?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I don't think so. Matt Boyd and Tyane has to
Speaker 3: be back. Matthew Boyd showed to you can't sit there
Speaker 3: and go, Okay, three of those four guys, we're gonna
Speaker 3: find three starts in the playoff.
Speaker 1: Can't do it all right, So things are happening.
Speaker 3: This one first?
Speaker 2: Which one you want first?
Speaker 3: Well? May Cortes, Nest Nasty, Miguel I do Hark. Freddy
Speaker 3: Freeman's going Whatdyman said?
Speaker 1: What why?
Speaker 3: Because Nester went to the Padres. Come on, I got it.
Speaker 1: I eventually got it, all right, So let's let's rip
Speaker 1: through it. Okay, let's I actually want to.
Speaker 2: Start with this one.
Speaker 1: Can I start with Craig Mish who put out that
Speaker 1: and he's very dialed for a long time on the
Speaker 1: Marlins is Marlins Insider And if he says that, I
Speaker 1: believe it. Sandy o Contra is not moving. He said
Speaker 1: they're not trading him. There'll be their ace down the
Speaker 1: stretch and that's it to me. This makes sense with
Speaker 1: what Jim Bowden told us the past couple of times
Speaker 1: we asked him about Sandy. Boden said, the ask is
Speaker 1: him as an ace cy young contender, but he hasn't
Speaker 1: been that this year. But it's also his first year back.
Speaker 1: It's hard to get that price without seeing it. So
Speaker 1: he stays, Okay, next up, Dustin May to the Red Sox.
Speaker 1: It's good for a back of the rotation guy, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and when he started, I mean, just stay healthy.
Speaker 3: It's the whole key for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he leads the Dodgers' rotation and innings
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, one hundred and four innings, four eight
Speaker 1: five era. I mean, it's not been a great year
Speaker 1: for him. He's not the Dustin May that we saw
Speaker 1: when he first came up.
Speaker 3: He's kind of gone through a lot and the Dodgers
Speaker 3: are like Dustin, you stayed healthy this year, there's got
Speaker 3: to be something wrong. We don't like guys who stay healthy.
Speaker 3: We're gonna shift you out. We don't want you to
Speaker 3: on any other guys.
Speaker 1: All right, Next up, the Reds get Miguel and do Hard.
Speaker 1: That's a fat Yeah, that is a bat.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They got a glove and a bat. Can you combine them?
Speaker 1: They need any other outfielder, So there you go.
Speaker 3: He's been playing left. He used to play third, you know.
Speaker 3: By the way, kape Yerow just went from the Rays
Speaker 3: to the Yankees in mid game then he that really happened.
Speaker 3: He just showed it on TV. Go enjoy your reign,
Speaker 3: delay with the with your other team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for Everson Pereira and a player to be named later,
Speaker 1: Ye thought.
Speaker 3: So what does that do for Volpi? Covio is not
Speaker 3: really a short stuff though, orm a second baseman. See
Speaker 3: you see it, Jazz, he can steal a base for you,
Speaker 3: you can take.
Speaker 1: He plays. I think he's played some short this year now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when when Taylor Walls wasn't playing.
Speaker 1: Let's see, yeah, thirty starts at shortstop, nineteen at right
Speaker 1: field man.
Speaker 2: He plays everywhere.
Speaker 3: He leads the league and sold bases.
Speaker 1: Any Yeah, but see, I mean without seeing much of
Speaker 1: him at shortstop obviously, is it Volpie insurance?
Speaker 2: I mean, Anthony Bolpie.
Speaker 1: Is really struggling to throw the baseball across the diamond
Speaker 1: right now. It's not a secret.
Speaker 3: Rangers got maket On, the left handed pitcher ends one mistake,
Speaker 3: I know, but we can't let if I make a mistake.
Speaker 3: Ken never lets me live in town. So yeah, is
Speaker 3: that true? Yeah, it's been reported Rangers get film Aton.
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying Ken makes fun of you for one mistake.
Speaker 3: Oh he doesn't. You've been around Ken. Ken is a
Speaker 3: bundle of joy.
Speaker 1: Jose Cabalero outs above average at shortstop this year plus
Speaker 1: three and thirty starts.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 3: Taylor Rogers, who was acquired by the Pirates, is now
Speaker 3: being traded to the Cubs.
Speaker 1: Cubs get Taylor Rodgers apparently. And I haven't looked into
Speaker 1: this enough. There was a writer, like a columnist or
Speaker 1: something who was writing about the Pirates saying, so stupid,
Speaker 1: why would they trade for a reliever who's only available
Speaker 1: this year and then he's going to be a free agent.
Speaker 1: They're not in whatever. No, I know, but it was
Speaker 1: offsetting the money. And then they were gonna trade him.
Speaker 1: He's like, why would they even want him in a
Speaker 1: return package? It's like, bro, they were trying to move
Speaker 1: the money around.
Speaker 2: That's how it works.
Speaker 1: Oh, we've got Adrian Howser moving White Sox to the Rays.
Speaker 2: There you go? Is that a great year Howser?
Speaker 3: Really? So there's the Razor acquiring Howser. Yeah? Does he
Speaker 3: have multiple years? Does he have years of control left? No?
Speaker 1: I don't think so he signed he really deal. Rangers
Speaker 1: opted out because Rangers didn't keep them up right and
Speaker 1: Rangers had too many good starters White Toks pick them
Speaker 1: up late May great. Uh, And now I get stilled
Speaker 1: to the Rays, who I think decided, you know what, guys,
Speaker 1: maybe we do go for it a little bit. They
Speaker 1: didn't buy, but they didn't they didn't sell unless something
Speaker 1: changes in the five minutes.
Speaker 3: They they're they're, they're, they're they're pretty good, they're pretty
Speaker 3: far out. They sold, they got rid of, but they traded.
Speaker 1: They given hugs, I know, but they didn't trade the
Speaker 1: big boys, and they backfilled. Howser replaces Littel Fortes replaces.
Speaker 1: Who did they trade Fortes right place two, Jason Danny Jansen,
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 3: He just has more team control. Fortes is more team control. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And he's good defensively. He's really good defensively. Totally is Yeah.
Speaker 3: And from the White Sox to the Raids. I don't
Speaker 3: get that one.
Speaker 2: Why don't you get that? He costs nothing to take
Speaker 2: that on?
Speaker 1: He costs nothing bucks. He's basically a league minimum guy.
Speaker 1: He's pitching well.
Speaker 3: I believe you.
Speaker 1: The end of the day, And going back to something
Speaker 1: we only touched on for a moment, Nestor Cortes goes
Speaker 1: to the Padres. It's their fiftieth deal of the day.
Speaker 1: The Padres have to do name tags tonight, right or
Speaker 1: tomorrow name tags.
Speaker 3: It's all work for the Braves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do a ton of moves.
Speaker 3: You got three minutes, three minutes, that's three many White.
Speaker 1: Sox get Curtis Mead. He once was a big prospect.
Speaker 2: He was a guy.
Speaker 1: The White Sox get Curtis Mead the ausse Yeah, I
Speaker 1: called his futures game. He was.
Speaker 3: He was in the open the future right for the
Speaker 3: White Sox.
Speaker 1: And I called, like four years ago, maybe one of
Speaker 1: the futures games. He was like one of the guys
Speaker 1: we talked about at that started though. That's what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: What do you think about.
Speaker 3: Nester depth for the depth? If they trade Sees, Yeah,
Speaker 3: if they don't trade anybody else, that Ted Potters team
Speaker 3: is gonna be good again.
Speaker 1: Man. Well, if anything happens, it's in the next three minutes. People,
Speaker 1: two minutes too many minutes. I mean you might not
Speaker 1: learn about it for a few more minutes.
Speaker 3: But at six o'clock amout.
Speaker 1: We're getting towards the finish line here, peeps.
Speaker 3: As expected, the White Sox water training, Elise Robert Jr.
Speaker 1: No ship that one is pick up.
Speaker 3: That option though under a minute.
Speaker 1: Oh, I got a big one. Who The Yankees have
Speaker 1: acquired Camillo Duval from the Giants. This, according to.
Speaker 3: Jack did their whole bullpen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big one.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm hmm.
Speaker 1: All right, you're Brian Cashman. You're looking at the bullpen.
Speaker 1: The last their bullpen in the last month is like
Speaker 1: a six plus e r RA.
Speaker 3: Every clip this. I went every Yankees fan that hates
Speaker 3: on Cashman to just go out and look at what
Speaker 3: he's done for this how he's built this team. Go
Speaker 3: out and I want you to type your apology on
Speaker 3: Twitter to Cashman because he reads all of them.
Speaker 2: No he doesn't.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, he doesn't. You're right. Eight seven.
Speaker 2: Wait, let's go over this.
Speaker 3: Four three two one. I'm out see you guys. It's over.
Speaker 1: That's a trade. Deadlines done.
Speaker 2: It went pretty quick.
Speaker 1: You said, if I don't have something per hour, I'm
Speaker 1: going to get a little cranky's attention. We've had a
Speaker 1: ton of trades. That's hot.
Speaker 2: Wait, can we give this one a little bit of time?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 1: Camillo duval I mean, he was devoted at one point,
Speaker 1: lost his role last year as the closer and all that,
Speaker 1: but having an awesome year for a Giants team that
Speaker 1: had a really strong bullpen. That wasn't the problem for them.
Speaker 1: They trade away Rogers to the Mets yesterday. Dovall was
Speaker 1: starting to get some buzz in the last forty eight
Speaker 1: hours as this team crumbled as of now that's the
Speaker 1: big one at the finish line, so not a lot
Speaker 1: of starting pitchers. Wait, hold on, real quick, how good
Speaker 1: is the Eggs bullpen? Now? Though, Dovall, They got Jake
Speaker 1: Bird from the Rock, They got David Bednar from the Pirates,
Speaker 1: They have Weaver, They have Williams.
Speaker 3: M h it's a good bullpen. Devon didn strike out
Speaker 3: as many guys you think he would though this year
Speaker 3: here he is fifty and forty six innings. It's not
Speaker 3: many better than last year. But my exciting thing. That's
Speaker 3: gonna make me want to watch the Yankees game and
Speaker 3: pinstriped territory right after every game, you can watch the recap.
Speaker 3: Devall love Davall loves a walk, giving up a head.
Speaker 3: He's got a little bit of a decent high whip
Speaker 3: for you know, he's gonna walk some guys in that
Speaker 3: tight rope in Yankee Stadium, especially being four games back
Speaker 3: in the Jays, it's gonna get exciting. I'm here for that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he walks dudes walkingelve point six percent highest
Speaker 1: in baseball.
Speaker 3: I'm excited for that.
Speaker 1: I'm excited he racks ground balls. Strike up percentage is
Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, it's a little above average.
Speaker 3: Yankees vera. The field does ground.
Speaker 1: Well, McMahon does mm hmm, Canberra does well. That's the point.
Speaker 1: I mean, you need to have insurance for that. All right,
Speaker 1: So next layer here to finish up. Ooh oh, I
Speaker 1: got another one.
Speaker 3: One.
Speaker 1: Gryffin Jacks, Jeff Passon reporting the Ras are acquiring Gryffin
Speaker 1: Jackson reporting Charlie Moore into the Tigers. A bunch of
Speaker 1: interesting names justin Wow, all right, which one do you
Speaker 1: want first? Let's start with the Race are getting Louis Arland,
Speaker 1: by the way, from the Twins. Twins have no relievers
Speaker 1: left in their books. Their entire Triple A team is
Speaker 1: going to be called up today to pitch tomorrow. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Blue Jays acquired Louis Varland.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Twins literally traded their whole team. Their whole team,
Speaker 3: I mean, except for Brian Broxson's like, I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 3: stay in here, guys, I'm.
Speaker 2: Here coming in hot right now.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's start with the Rays. Griffin Jacks is a
Speaker 1: high leverage reliever. It's got good ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: Wow, So what do we think about what the Rays did?
Speaker 3: I don't know what to think of it. I have
Speaker 3: to I'm gonna need some time to digest.
Speaker 1: You want to, like, sit down, go move by move
Speaker 1: with the roster has shifted to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's like it's kind of they're like trading
Speaker 3: away guys, but then they're bringing in guys they're trading away,
Speaker 3: they're bringing in. That's what the Rays always do. They
Speaker 3: try to throw the needle and be good, but not
Speaker 3: be good. I don't know what the heck they're doing.
Speaker 1: They're good at building up a bullpen. Yeah, Griffin Jackson
Speaker 1: is really good, I know, and he's under control for
Speaker 1: two more seasons after this, so they definitely gave up.
Speaker 3: But no, here's what the Rays will do. They'll use
Speaker 3: him for the rest of this year and then they'll
Speaker 3: figure out how trading the offseason and get more more
Speaker 3: three guys for him.
Speaker 2: They might, they might.
Speaker 3: Stephen Kuan's not getting traded. No kidding, Yeah, no kidding,
Speaker 3: no kidding.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to the Blue Jays.
Speaker 1: Louis Arland acquired from the Twins, so they got Varland,
Speaker 1: Sir Anthony Dominguez and Shane Bieber. What you think of
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays hall pretty good.
Speaker 3: They need sent Tendero to come back healthy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that would be the power bad addition for them,
Speaker 1: which is something they do need. But Twins have a
Speaker 1: good bullpen or had a good They had a good
Speaker 1: Louis Varland throws ninety eight. Also, we were just talking
Speaker 1: about Duval and his ground ball rate. This one's even better.
Speaker 1: Fifty six percent ground ball rate from Louis Varland.
Speaker 3: Louis Arland is under team controlled through twenty thirty. By
Speaker 3: the way, Holy shit, hego Heigel.
Speaker 1: The twins had a little situation yesterday and they met
Speaker 1: afterwards the front office and they were just like, wipe it,
Speaker 1: wipe it all. They sold high too. You could make
Speaker 1: that case right. Louis Ireland has tried starting and relieving,
Speaker 1: kind of bouncing around. They're like, hey, just bullpen this
Speaker 1: year fifty one appearances, two O two E r A.
Speaker 3: So he'll help.
Speaker 2: That's fascinating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but nice moves by the Blue Jays crats. In
Speaker 1: my mind, do Minge is in Barlant to join the
Speaker 1: high leverage crew?
Speaker 3: Yes, and hoping, hoping Yimmy comes back. It's Jimmy now,
Speaker 3: I guess oh what yeah, Jimmy Garcia, Yimmy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Charlie Moore into the Tigers.
Speaker 3: Thoughts on that one good piece, good piece for him,
Speaker 3: you can pitch. Hinch knows them well, good piece and
Speaker 3: he's throwing well, he's throwing very well. Right now. Is
Speaker 3: Deval under uh?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: How much control?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Because if Devin Williams is a free agent, then
Speaker 3: he could just slide into the closer role.
Speaker 1: I think that was part of what they were doing here.
Speaker 3: Got two more after this, Yeah, yeah, so yeah, White
Speaker 3: Sox Dave. I can't remember a less exciting deadline for Chicago.
Speaker 3: What a stinker.
Speaker 1: Well, they kept Louise Robert, which I have no words,
Speaker 1: no words.
Speaker 3: The Los Angeles Dodgers are aquiring James Tibbs from the
Speaker 3: Red Sox. TIBs is just traded from the Red Sox
Speaker 3: to the Giants.
Speaker 1: Jim Boden's releasing his list of players that did not
Speaker 1: get traded. There's some pretty big names. Joe Ryan that
Speaker 1: makes sense, although he's gonna be really lonely all his
Speaker 1: friends left. Mackenzie Gore I think should have been dealt.
Speaker 1: I guess the Nats wanted to kind of pause and
Speaker 1: figure out their front office in the offseason. Al Contra
Speaker 1: and Edward Cabrera. There's actually a story to that one.
Speaker 1: So Craig Mish, did you see that tweet? The next
Speaker 1: one he sent out, he said, the Marlins are holding
Speaker 1: everyone else. They're the hottest team in baseball. There's seven
Speaker 1: games back of the wild card. Decided to give it
Speaker 1: a go and see if they can stay in the race.
Speaker 1: Yankees in town this weekend expectation. All three games close
Speaker 1: to her sold out. Wait, hold up, let me let
Speaker 1: let me drop something for you.
Speaker 3: But the Marlins games are sold out.
Speaker 1: The Marlins Yankees games are always lit because the Yankees
Speaker 1: are in town. Yeah, because half the half pri state
Speaker 1: area goes down to the game or always how it
Speaker 1: is Yankees.
Speaker 3: Cheap ticket for them? Yeah, eun Yankee state.
Speaker 1: Nine percent of that ballparks Yankee fans. I've been to
Speaker 1: plenty of Tod lived in Miami for five years. Who's
Speaker 1: getting Todge.
Speaker 3: Bradley the twins for Griffin Jacks.
Speaker 1: I always like toddge Bradley. You know, the race was
Speaker 1: getting frustrated. He's twenty four years old.
Speaker 3: I know. And by the way, comment Williams and Williams
Speaker 3: and uh we were both free ages at.
Speaker 1: The end of the year, right, so that that makes
Speaker 1: total sense.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a good pick up for them.
Speaker 1: Let me finish the list from Bowden after the two
Speaker 1: Marlins guys, this is the list of players that didn't
Speaker 1: move that you thought maybe he could Zach Gallon. That's
Speaker 1: pretty surprising. But to me, they probably said, hey, we're
Speaker 1: holding out. You got to give us better than a
Speaker 1: first round pick or we're staying putting on Nada. He's
Speaker 1: difficult though, because of the no trade Ish France.
Speaker 3: By the way, I went to the Jay's also.
Speaker 1: Oh he's in that deal, okay, Ty France and Louis Varley.
Speaker 3: I mean they just got the Twins. Literally, they just
Speaker 3: gutted their team.
Speaker 1: They sold, they sold. I mean the Twins are for sale.
Speaker 1: They will hopefully find a suitor in the next six months.
Speaker 1: Right of real, real clean books.
Speaker 3: Firons are Firon and Pablo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for now, I think Pablo could get trade in
Speaker 1: the off season. Chris Catillo dialed in on the Red
Speaker 1: Sox source on the Red Sox pursuit of Joe Ryan quote,
Speaker 1: because there were some reports being like, oh they might
Speaker 1: quote not even close. It's almost like our director.
Speaker 3: At least they tried.
Speaker 1: They follows the Red Sox. They're in on them, though,
Speaker 1: they were in on Joe Ryan. Ready, here's the phone call. Hey,
Speaker 1: we want Joe Ryan. Okay, here's a list of prospects
Speaker 1: we're interested. Okay, we wouldn't trade any of those prospects.
Speaker 2: All right, good talk. We gotta go in.
Speaker 1: The Twins are like, we gotta go trade eight other guys.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next year, Okay, And they hang
Speaker 1: up and they go. Now they pick up the phone. Hey, insider,
Speaker 1: that will report anything. We're in on. Joe Ryan, we
Speaker 1: just spoke to the Twins.
Speaker 3: Here's the list we're in. Here's a list of Twins
Speaker 3: traded Castro, Duran, Paddick, Correa, Colomb Colum Vader, Stewart, Jackson,
Speaker 3: Orland France. Wo. That's ten dudes they traded off their
Speaker 3: big league team.
Speaker 1: I'm like, genuinely excited for a bunch of this.
Speaker 3: This sounds like the Twins that I played on back
Speaker 3: in like nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but aren't you excited for all the guys that
Speaker 1: are about to get called up?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I was one of those guys, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: This reminds me that the Twins back in two thy
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety zine we played in front of a crowd
Speaker 3: of one hundred people at ten am against the Orioles.
Speaker 2: Bob Nightingales tend people.
Speaker 1: Bob Nightingo goes the Twins, who are about four hundred
Speaker 1: and forty million dollars in debt erased a huge chunk
Speaker 1: of it by trading away virtually their roster in a
Speaker 1: matter of twelve hours. No wonder Corea wanted out, by
Speaker 1: the way, Correa said he wanted out, but he only
Speaker 1: wanted to go to Houston, so they figured it out.
Speaker 1: That's at least what he said. All right, if you're
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, we.
Speaker 2: Did get a trade from the brewers.
Speaker 1: My gosh, Shelby Miller.
Speaker 3: Shelley, is that a good year? A great year?
Speaker 1: Have we had him on the show.
Speaker 3: We can't get him anytime.
Speaker 1: We should definitely get him on Easy's that's a good one.
Speaker 1: Let's get him on Monday. I think we have Nick Kurtz.
Speaker 3: Tomorrow is gonna be tough. If he got traded, he's
Speaker 3: moving and all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta give a day Nick Kurtz tomorrowidens.
Speaker 3: I'm not asking him to do that. He just got traded.
Speaker 2: No, Monday, I'd be like, give him three days.
Speaker 3: Monday we have a giant guest.
Speaker 2: Oh that's true. Maybe Tuesday.
Speaker 3: I want him on with you that Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Do you want to Wednesday? Yeah, let's get Shelby.
Speaker 1: I want I like getting the guys after their trade
Speaker 1: to give him a.
Speaker 3: Few days to calm down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no boat tomorrow, but Nick Kurtz is confirmed.
Speaker 3: Tomorrow and Monday we have a huge gift. Yeah, not
Speaker 3: saying Shelby's Shelby's about to hit his ten years too.
Speaker 3: By the way, just just the heads up for when
Speaker 3: we talked to him on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: It's good call.
Speaker 3: Hey.
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Speaker 1: of any annual subscription. Nick Kurtz had one of the
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Speaker 1: going to talk to him tomorrow. We had dozens of trades.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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