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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're warming

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Speaker 2: The idea of le Boo boos thanks to Naomi Osaka's

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Speaker 2: custom bedazzled little monster named Billy Jean Bling.

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Speaker 1: It's Thursday, August twenty eighth.

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Speaker 2: Then on today's show, we'll be chatting with heptatholite Anna

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Speaker 2: Hall about the upcoming Track and Field World Championships, being

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Speaker 2: mentored by Jackie Joyner Kersey, and what she thinks about

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Speaker 2: the push for women's to cal on plus serving through

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Speaker 2: a scare, Honoring a legend, Part two and the only

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Speaker 2: kind of royal proclamation we take seriously.

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Speaker 1: It's all coming up right after this. Welcome Max Slices.

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Speaker 2: Here's what you need to know today. Let's start with

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Speaker 2: tennis and the US Open. American star Coco GoF survived

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Speaker 2: a first round scare on Tuesday, narrowly defeating Aila Tomjanovich

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Speaker 2: six four, six, seven, seven five to advance to the

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Speaker 1: The third seeded GoF has been struggling with.

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Speaker 2: Her serve a lot over the last year, and ahead

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Speaker 2: of the US Open, she fired her coach and added

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Speaker 2: biomechanics expert Gavin McMillan to her team with the goal

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Speaker 2: of retooling the serve. It was a big change to

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Speaker 2: make heading into a Grand Slam, and it's clear there's

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Speaker 2: still a lot of work going on behind the scenes.

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Speaker 2: GoF had ten double vaults on Tuesday night, and her

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Speaker 2: serves were also much slower than they were earlier in

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Speaker 1: We'll see how far GoF makes.

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Speaker 2: It in this tournament, but she's clearly hoping to make

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Speaker 2: I was in the audience in the President's suite no

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Speaker 2: less for that match, and I have to tell you,

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Speaker 2: But I'm sure Coco hopes the next one is a

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Speaker 2: match against Donna Beckich today. Naomi Osaka, two seed Igashfiantek,

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Speaker 2: and eight seed American Amanda Nissimova are also in action today.

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Speaker 2: We'll link to the full US Open schedule in the

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Speaker 2: show notes to the WNBA The Portland Fire has announced

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Speaker 2: the high aring Avonya. Trinovitch as a general manager ahead

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Speaker 2: of their inaugural season in twenty twenty six. Trinovich is

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Speaker 2: currently the president of basketball operations for a slightly older

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Speaker 2: expansion side, but not by much, the Golden State Valkyries.

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Speaker 2: Prior to that, she worked in the MNBA, including stints

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Speaker 2: Trinovich said, quote, I am honored to join the Fire

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Speaker 2: with a vision to build the most innovative and groundbreaking

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Speaker 1: End quote, speaking of expansion teams.

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Speaker 2: Per friend of the show, Annie Costable, a front office sports,

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Speaker 2: the chances of the WNBA and its players agreeing to

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Speaker 2: expansion draft. We've got both the Portland Fire and Toronto

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Speaker 2: Tempo slated to begin play next season, and the league

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Speaker 2: building out their rosters. For example, I had a last

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Speaker 2: year's expansion draft in December. Each WNBA team could protect

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Speaker 2: But because the league's collect a Bargaining Agreement dictates the

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Speaker 2: executive director Terry Jackson said, quote, as we approach this

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Speaker 2: they are with the players in demanding a new standard

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Speaker 2: Annie's recent stories in the show notes More hoops. The

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Speaker 2: Minnesota Timberwolves and Links announced the hiring of Matthew Caldwell

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Speaker 2: More WNBA and another ALYSSA triple double Thomas record to

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Speaker 1: More hoops.

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Speaker 2: Nike announced that Caitlin Clark is the brand's newest signature athlete,

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Speaker 2: by giving every fan in attendance a Caitlin Was Here

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Speaker 2: how Caitlyn's game was built from the inside out, a

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Speaker 2: to the ice. On Monday, we welcomed Michelle Leflomm to

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Speaker 2: over Australia. American Kelsey de Claudio netted the first ever

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Speaker 2: about why this tournament is a huge step forward for

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Speaker 2: In college soccer, last year's national champions and this year's

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Speaker 2: preseason favorites, the UNC tar Heels are off to a

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Speaker 2: tough start with their opening loss to Tennessee. They became

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Speaker 2: first four games. Finally, in golf, the FM Championship teas

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Speaker 2: but the best of the best will be in attendance,

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Speaker 2: as Big Citrus discussed on Tuesday show. We're officially in

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Speaker 2: WNBA end of season awards consideration season, which means teams

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Speaker 2: that includes the Seattle Storm, who issued a quote unquote

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Speaker 1: The decree went on to make the case.

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Speaker 2: For other Storm players for each of the end of

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Speaker 3: Definitely some moments where coaches tried, I think, especially in

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Speaker 2: Javelin is a checked item. Unfortunately, they do not let

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Speaker 1: That you carry on.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I want to talk about your super successful twenty

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Speaker 2: You had a personal best in the heptathlon in Austria

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Speaker 1: What was going right, what was going well? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think I just honestly, I found my spark again there.

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Speaker 2: Incredible, your eight hundred meters time was two oh one

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Speaker 3: I enjoy it because I'm good at it, but I

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Speaker 3: Like that's what I was saying before goat. Seems like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Are you a kicker or do you try to

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like it might be worse

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Speaker 2: So Yeah, and they're like built for it, Like you

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Speaker 2: from being on this really great straight up line for

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00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 2: your career. Have you completely gotten over that fear or

437
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:09,920
Speaker 2: do you still feel it at all when you're when

438
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,440
Speaker 2: you're lining up and running for that race.

439
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I've gotten over it for every

440
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 3: meet except for I think at US Trials, I'm always

441
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,639
Speaker 3: going to just be like a little tight for one

442
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 3: hundred hurdles, and I think my whole I can feel

443
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 3: that my family's nervous extra nervous for that one, and

444
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 3: like I feel like my coaches everyone just kind of like,

445
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 3: let's just like cross the line and then like we

446
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 3: know we've got like the rest of the events, so

447
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:37,719
Speaker 3: you just finish, like and I felt like at US Trials,

448
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 3: I got to hurdle seven and I was running really well,

449
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 3: and then I was kind of like, Okay, let me

450
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 3: just like make sure I get over them.

451
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little extra distance over the top.

452
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I don't feel like I approach any other

453
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 3: meat like that, So I feel like I run fearlessly

454
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 3: everywhere else. But I think US Trials just knowing that

455
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,880
Speaker 3: you really just can't afford to not finish the hurdle

456
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 3: race and it's not as necessary to kind of like

457
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 3: go for because it will be at like a World

458
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 3: Championships or something like that. I'll probably always run a

459
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 3: little safer.

460
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Speaker 2: Well, that's what you're but that's what you said as well,

461
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 2: that you and your coaches had talked about taking a

462
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 2: little bit off doing enough, of course to qualify, but

463
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 2: you still had a tremendous score. So even running safe

464
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 2: and maybe thinking you went take a little off, you

465
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 2: were really killing it. In the high jump, you were

466
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,919
Speaker 2: doing great in the throws. Do you think there was

467
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 2: any part of you that taking that bit of pressure

468
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 2: off allowed you to compete freer and might be something

469
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 2: to consider trying to manufacture at the big events, even

470
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Speaker 2: if it's not organic there.

471
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the taking the pressure off helped me

472
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 3: focus on each individual event because in my head I knew.

473
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 3: I was like, why I know I'm ready to pr

474
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 3: in the throw, so I was like, I want to

475
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 3: I want to leave with something. So I was like,

476
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 3: I want to leave with the shop for PR and

477
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 3: I kind of like challenged myself. But when my coaches

478
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 3: were like, you don't want to score super high, and

479
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 3: I was like, well I do, so I was like,

480
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 3: I'm going to try to score high like however I can. So.

481
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 3: I do think that approach is helpful in some regards,

482
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 3: But some of the decisions we made, like we started

483
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 3: pretty high and high jump just to save some jumps,

484
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 3: we probably won't make that decision at World since I

485
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 3: typically jump higher when I get more time to make

486
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 3: adjustments and learn right. At trials, we started so high,

487
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 3: I had like I had to learn quickly.

488
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, for those who don't know high jump, because people

489
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 2: have such differing heights that are their highest that they

490
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 2: can do. You get to choose where you enter so

491
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,360
Speaker 2: you don't waste a lot of energy just jumping over

492
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Speaker 2: something that's really easy for you, especially if you're really

493
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 2: really great jumper. But you have to be safe because

494
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 2: you got to get one in. You got to get

495
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 2: some points and to your point, you have to see

496
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 2: kind of where your body is on that given day,

497
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 2: so when you get to the height that you want

498
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,199
Speaker 2: to be really pushing yourself at your feeling ready to go.

499
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 2: So maybe a little bit earlier at in Tokyo.

500
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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I maybe a little bit earlier. I think

501
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 3: starting that high definitely freaked my dad out because I

502
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 3: know his worst fear.

503
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 1: Is that, like no height.

504
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 3: So I saw him. Yeah, me panic a little bit,

505
00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm good, I'm good.

506
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: Jackie Joiner Kursy was cheering you on at that meet.

507
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 2: She's been a little bit of a mentor to you.

508
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 2: What is it like to be cheered on by the

509
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 2: goat while you're chasing her?

510
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,719
Speaker 3: Oh, it's incredible. I mean to have her as a

511
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 3: mentor and just somebody that's in my corner, it's like

512
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 3: the most invaluable resource that I think any athlete could

513
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 3: have is the person who you're trying to copycat in

514
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 3: a way or aspire to be giving you advice on

515
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 3: how to do that. So that's amazing. And then just

516
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 3: seeing how she believes in me, Like I really really

517
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 3: feel her belief In anytime that I've maybe doubted myself,

518
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, your biggest role model is sitting here

519
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,199
Speaker 3: telling you that you can do it, Like maybe you

520
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 3: should listen. So it means the world. And it's just

521
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 3: an incredible relationship that I feel like I'm so fortunate

522
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 3: to have because I think it's so rare in splits

523
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 3: in general, but what she does for women's sports all

524
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 3: around is just incredible.

525
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 2: The role model that she is, She's part of a

526
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 2: pretty big cheering section you have. You have a lot

527
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 2: of family that shows up. Who is the baby you

528
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: celebrated with that was wearing your metal.

529
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 3: My niece, My first niece, Noela, she just turned one.

530
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 3: She was actually born during paras Olympics, so that was

531
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 3: her first actually second time seeing me compete live, but

532
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 3: first have tathlon, so she was fascinated with the medals.

533
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned after that win that you have

534
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 2: a big chip on your shoulder after Paris tell me more.

535
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think I'm set out to prove

536
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 3: to myself that I'm just better than that. Like I

537
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 3: think in my head, I'm always only as good as

538
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: my last performance and or last like championship performance, because

539
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 3: I mean that is just kind of true in track,

540
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 3: and so I'm kind of I think this year is

541
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 3: proving to myself that when I'm healthy, like I can

542
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,239
Speaker 3: be at the level that I wouldn't be at, and

543
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 3: that it wasn't that I was not good enough or

544
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 3: I was lacking anyway, that it really was just like, Okay,

545
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 3: that's really unfortunate timing that I happened to have me

546
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 3: surgery that year. That's what I would like to prove

547
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 3: to myself.

548
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you came in fifth in the Olympics

549
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 2: despite having knee surgery in January that seriously affected your training,

550
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 2: your time to prepare mentally physically. So it must feel

551
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 2: pretty good knowing you could do so much more when

552
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 2: given the opportunity when fully healthy.

553
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does. It definitely feels good. But I think,

554
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 3: you know, I'm always going to look back on twenty

555
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 3: twenty four of like, well, maybe we could have done

556
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 3: more and one and more for myself because you truly

557
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: just don't know. I guess, like what's possible? So for me,

558
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 3: I think YadA, it is always still going to be like,

559
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 3: I don't know, could I have done better? I'm not sure,

560
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 3: but I'll just kind of have to live with that question.

561
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 3: And I think that's motivating for me to make sure

562
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 3: that there's in future years I don't have to ask

563
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 3: myself that question.

564
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you're going to have more opportunities. It's interesting

565
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 2: there are some folks who say that they have this

566
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 2: Olympic let down, folks who have worked their entire lives

567
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 2: to get to the very top. Even folks who win

568
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: gold afterwards are like, huh, well, what's next? Just try

569
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: to win again? I guess is what's you know? What's

570
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 2: this all led to? Or what are the questions I

571
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: still have about my life and myself that weren't solved

572
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 2: by being.

573
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: A gold medalist.

574
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: When you were eight years old, you wrote down in

575
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: school that you were going to the Olympics.

576
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: You've done it now, you didn't.

577
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: Finish as high as you would like, But what were

578
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 2: the emotions for you? Was there a feeling of accomplishment

579
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: and all your work paid off and you want more,

580
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 2: But were you able to still find that that gratitude

581
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 2: and feeling of pride in yourself.

582
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think I've had to find the

583
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,959
Speaker 3: gratitude because I know it should be there, because I mean,

584
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 3: any lifelong dream, like, I'm super grateful and blessed that,

585
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 3: you know, God gave me the talent to do it

586
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 3: and I've been given the opportunity to do it. But

587
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 3: largely it was a letdown, and I think the post

588
00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 3: Olympics come down for me was very, very hard. I

589
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 3: was kind of processing what happened, and then also I

590
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 3: think just the typical post Olympic leck down. It's like

591
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: for an entire year, everybody's talking about your goal, is

592
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 3: like it's the most important thing in the entire world,

593
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: and then it's over and you're kind of just like okay.

594
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 3: So I was definitely I was definitely low. My coaches

595
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 3: were saying, like, you just didn't want to be at practice,

596
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: Like I came in, I did everything they asked me

597
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: to do, but then I just I just wasn't myself.

598
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 3: So I kind of just told myself, like, well, I'm

599
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 3: going to do the physical work and like whenever my

600
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: brain's ready again, like my body will be waiting. So

601
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 3: that's what I tried to do.

602
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 2: Well. It seems ready this year because your performance has

603
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: been outstanding. So we're really excited to see what you

604
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 2: can do in Tokyo at the World Championships.

605
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm going to, as the owner and mom.

606
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 2: Of three dogs, give your pop Cross some credit for

607
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: getting you back mentally where you need to be.

608
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: How old does he want? Did you get him? Yeah?

609
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 3: Cross is one. I got him as soon as I

610
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 3: got back from Paris. That was like I was like

611
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 3: as soon as the Olympics, I remember like I'm getting

612
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 3: a dog and I was so, so so excited. So

613
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: having him this year has been incredible, and especially this

614
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 3: past fall when I was in that like post Olympic

615
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: let down, like literally on my off days when I

616
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 3: was like I could just line in bed all day

617
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 3: and be sad and feel bad for myself, Like I

618
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 3: was like, no, I need to go take Across for

619
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: a walk, and no, he wants to play and he's

620
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 3: in a good mood. And so he picked me up

621
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: so much, and I think, honestly, I'm so thankful for

622
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 3: just how playful he is every single day. I think

623
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 3: it really teaches me a lot honestly about Oh I

624
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 3: wish I was that excited to just wake up.

625
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, dogs are therapy.

626
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: I consider my dog's therapy, especially after a long day

627
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: or a bad day. I saw a really sweet photo

628
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 2: of you snuggling with him with your knee wrapped up,

629
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: so it feels like maybe he was helping you through

630
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: some rehab or keeping your company while you were icing something.

631
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: My one. I have three dogs.

632
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: Two of them are older, so they've settled into the

633
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: like do I have to get up? But the young

634
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: one that I have, who's two, is the same thing

635
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: every morning, wakes up like.

636
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: Let's go what's happening today?

637
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: And I'm like, all right, I got to embrace this attitude.

638
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: Your pup is not just adorable though your pup has campaigns. Yes,

639
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: your pup is bringing in the dough. So tell me

640
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: about how you too partnered with new Loo. Yeah.

641
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, me and Cross and my family dog Emma, because

642
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 3: Cross was still in the womb when I first partnered

643
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 3: with Nu Loo, but we all partnered with Newlo to

644
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: really developed. I feel like a partnership that it just

645
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 3: makes so much sense because for me, I have to

646
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: focus on my nutrition and I have to feel myself well.

647
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 3: And one of their main campaigns, like the fuel Incredible

648
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: campaign is about fueling your dogs well. And to me,

649
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: that's like the best thing that I can do to

650
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 3: set him up for success, because that's like one of

651
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 3: the best things I do to set myself up for success.

652
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 3: So I've been super thankful for that partnership. I know

653
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: my family dog and my parents are super thankful too.

654
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Speaker 3: They get so excited when they get their newlo shipments

655
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Speaker 3: every month. They have like the best products across. Is

656
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Speaker 3: so spoiled, Like yeah, I was like, what type of

657
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Speaker 3: puppy eats wet dog food for lunch? And he gets

658
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Speaker 3: like drinky sticks every time we go on a walk.

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Speaker 3: So there's so many great products that he loves there.

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Speaker 3: So I love that I can spoil him because he

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Speaker 3: really really spoiled me, especially when I was at my low.

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Speaker 1: Is cross a runner, can we?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you are fueling him like one, but is

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Speaker 2: I have to pick which dog I'm taking on the

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Speaker 2: walk depending on whether I'm going for you know, three

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Speaker 2: miles or twenty minutes, based on their age and their fitness.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a runner. He has a lot of energy,

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Speaker 3: definitely high drive. He's very smart. So he'll jog with me.

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Speaker 3: He'll usually do my warm up like I've got like

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Speaker 3: forty five minute warm up and he can hang for

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Speaker 3: that and then after that he's like, Okay, I'm ready

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Speaker 3: to lie down, and that's about when I'm putting my

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Speaker 3: spikes line starting the real work anyway, So it works

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Speaker 3: out well. But he likes to run. He loves to

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Speaker 3: chase birds. We recently learned how to hurdle. You try

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Speaker 3: to get him into some of those agility things.

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Speaker 1: So amazing. Yeah, we got to get cross to do

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Speaker 1: all the events. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: He likes football. I got him with football, so yeah.

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Speaker 1: Nice, Oh my gosh, so cute.

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Speaker 2: Well, I feel like you've dated a couple different pro athletes.

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Speaker 2: Your current boyfriend, Darius Slayton of the New York Giants,

683
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Speaker 2: is a runner. He is a wide receiver. There's some

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Speaker 2: speed in there. Do you guys work out together? Ever?

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Speaker 3: We have, not as much as you guys as people

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Speaker 3: would probably think. But he came to Gainesville for his

687
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Speaker 3: off season for a couple of months, so he ran

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Speaker 3: a few workouts with me. But that was kind of

689
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Speaker 3: his downtime. So he was like, I'm not really trying

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Speaker 3: to run, but I was like please. So that was fun.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, obviously he's man, so he's super fast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very fast, professional athlete.

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Speaker 2: Man. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Are you competitive with each other about stuff?

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Speaker 3: Definitely? I got like he did hill sprints with me,

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Speaker 3: and so I was like fighting my hardist to try

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Speaker 3: to like stay in his zip code. And then he's

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Speaker 3: dabbled in a high jump and then he was like

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Speaker 3: I want to go over hurdles, and I was like, no, no,

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Speaker 3: because like the last thing I need is you getting

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Speaker 3: hurt and then your people and I know when I'm

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Speaker 3: there and I to do stuff, He's like, sit down.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm pretty sure if he got hurt doing

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Speaker 2: the hurdles, it would be immediately linked back to you.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that you'd be able to escape.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't worry all giants people. He's not taking any hurdles.

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Speaker 1: Story. Yeah, who wins at Mario Kart.

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Speaker 3: It goes back and forth. He's gonna say it is

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Speaker 3: usually him, But I think he has an advantage from

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Speaker 3: all the years of video gaming, Like I'm not used

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Speaker 3: to hold a controller. Yeah, and we do always play

712
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Speaker 3: like Nintendo tennis, and he destroys me and now and

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Speaker 3: every time, and I say like I'm like again again again,

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Speaker 3: and he's like forty five games.

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Speaker 1: Like like nobod, I have to win one because.

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Speaker 3: I was like finding to win. You'll hear about it

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Speaker 3: when I do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I look forward to the official announcement by decree

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Speaker 2: that you have finally wanted with tennis.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you quickly.

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Speaker 2: We recently highlighted the women's to cathlon World Championship event

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Speaker 2: that was held independently as World Athletics, which is the

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Speaker 2: governing body for track and field, doesn't sponsor the event,

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Speaker 2: so they had it independently, and there's been a push

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Speaker 2: for more women to get to compete in the decathlon.

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Speaker 2: I am not pushing hard for that because I would

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Speaker 2: have been eliminated as soon as the pole vault got

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Speaker 2: invented and made a part of it.

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Speaker 1: That wouldn't have been my jam. But it does feel

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Speaker 1: unfair that there is no women's to kathlon. So what

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Speaker 1: are your thoughts on that? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think I really think it's like a sticky situation,

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Speaker 3: just because I don't think there's ever a great time

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Speaker 3: and I'm not sure if I mean, some people want

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Speaker 3: to replace a hebtathlon with it, some people want to

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Speaker 3: have both, so it kind of just depends on what

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Speaker 3: their plan would look like. I guess my response, but

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Speaker 3: I think I would never want to tell like a

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Speaker 3: little girl, like no, you can't do the decathlon. So

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Speaker 3: I'm happy that they have at least now, like there's

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Speaker 3: meets for it, there's a place for it. But then

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Speaker 3: on the flip side, like there's just so much history

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Speaker 3: in the heptathlon, and while it is it is different

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Speaker 3: than the decathlon, like there's no denying that, but I

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Speaker 3: don't think it being different makes it any inferior. And

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Speaker 3: I think it would be a shame to ever get

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Speaker 3: rid of it, And like we're going to we have

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Speaker 3: all these legends like the Jackies and the Carolines and

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Speaker 3: even the Nafis that I'm up against who have done

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Speaker 3: so many great things, and just to kind of like

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Speaker 3: erase that history would make me really sad. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I guess that's where I sit on it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely agree.

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Speaker 2: It's like a yes and situation, yes to the heptathlon

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Speaker 2: and allow folks to get into the decathlon if that's

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Speaker 2: something they're into all right, last question for you, what's

757
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Speaker 2: the goal for Tokyo as we get ready and excited

758
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Speaker 2: to watch you in the World Championships.

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Speaker 3: The goal for Tokyo is to have fun just like

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Speaker 3: I did I gotzis, and compete my very best. I

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Speaker 3: think I've proved to myself that if I'm at my best,

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Speaker 3: I should be competing for golds, and so I just

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Speaker 3: need to focus on making sure that I'm bringing my

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Speaker 3: best on the day I get there, healthy, knock on wood,

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Speaker 3: and hopefully can put together a PB score potentially at

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Speaker 3: like one of the biggest meets in my life. That

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Speaker 3: would be my ultimate dream come true.

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Speaker 2: This year, well, we'll be rooting for it, and it

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Speaker 2: certainly sounds like this year you have been ramping up

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Speaker 2: for you at another big meet. So congrats on all

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Speaker 2: the success so far and good luck in Tokyo.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Thanks again to Anna for taking the time and chatting

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Speaker 2: with us. We got to take another break when we

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Speaker 2: come back. We welcome a hometown hero back to Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Max Slices.

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Speaker 2: Want to give a quick thank you and shout out

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Speaker 2: to USTA Coaching, which supports tennis coaches at all skill

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Speaker 2: levels and is working to get more women in the

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Speaker 2: coaching game. They brought together a fantastic group of folks

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Speaker 2: at the US Open on Tuesday and had just the

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Speaker 2: most wonderful day planned for us. That included watching some

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Speaker 2: of the matches, hanging out in the President's spite, spending

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Speaker 2: and spending several hours with coaches from all sorts of

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Speaker 2: backgrounds the NFL, the NBA, the WNBA, College USTA to

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Speaker 2: try to idate around how to get more women in

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Speaker 2: the coaching rinks from the lowest levels all the way

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Speaker 2: to elite levels. And it was a really powerful and

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Speaker 2: incredible conversation, a really amazing group of people put together

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Speaker 2: in one room, and I just want to thank them

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Speaker 2: for including me and for wanting to start to document

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Speaker 2: best practices so that we can share them across all

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Speaker 2: the different sports save folks time as they're trying to

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Speaker 2: bring more women into the coaching rinks. It's such an

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Speaker 2: important problem to solve, and I'm grateful to the USTA

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Speaker 2: Coaching group for getting the ball rolling and putting that

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Speaker 2: group together. We had a fantastic day and like I mentioned,

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Speaker 2: Former Sky teammate Kalia Copper, who earned Finals MVP honors

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