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Speaker 1: Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the
Speaker 1: Star in Priscilla, and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck
Speaker 1: My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's. Oh is this
Speaker 1: special Thursday? Isn't it, gentlemen? Because we've had a historic
Speaker 1: day in the Talking Cowboys universe. Because we are not
Speaker 1: inside the SAWBC Mortgage studios. Instead, we're on the Tostitos
Speaker 1: Fiesta Plaza at the Fun Town are V Tailgate. We
Speaker 1: are gonna be out here podcast wise for the rest
Speaker 1: of the day. However, this is the first time that
Speaker 1: all four of us have been in the same place
Speaker 1: at one time. Heckby and Isaiah have never met, and
Speaker 1: we've never all four been in the same place at
Speaker 1: one time before. But hey, we're here Talking Cowboys here
Speaker 1: on a Thursday. We're gonna break down some recent moves
Speaker 1: from the Dallas Cowboys here over the next forty five minutes.
Speaker 1: Heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand back, what's up?
Speaker 1: Can I just say that's the most twenty twenty thing
Speaker 1: I've heard this year. We've been doing the show for
Speaker 1: how many months? And Isaiah just met just met, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that just happened. All that arguing, all that argument, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're best friends and they just met. There there's a
Speaker 1: reason we put them apart from each other too. We
Speaker 1: backed them up and put them on, put them on
Speaker 1: the opposite sides. Is it. You're exactly right though, Like,
Speaker 1: and I was thinking about this last night, just the
Speaker 1: fact that Rob and I have been in the same
Speaker 1: place at the same time for the first time this week,
Speaker 1: all three of us were in the same place because
Speaker 1: of pregame shows, the and then Hecma was the only
Speaker 1: one that at least at this point had been out
Speaker 1: of it. But but I had been in the same place,
Speaker 1: Robin Heckman had been in the same place. And then
Speaker 1: finally we've got all four together. So thank goodness for that.
Speaker 1: And beautiful thing it is. Actually it's a ton of fun.
Speaker 1: It's a it's chilly out here. I say it before
Speaker 1: the show said it was philly weather, which is fitting
Speaker 1: I guess since the Cowboys are going to go up
Speaker 1: to Lincoln Financial this week. And man, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: lie they've got us set up. They've got some fantastic
Speaker 1: heaters back here, which is keeping us warm. We've got
Speaker 1: all of the fun Town RV to to go through
Speaker 1: and walk around our setups all in there. It really
Speaker 1: has been a cool morning already. But it's also a
Speaker 1: morning following some roster moves for the Dallas Cowboys, and
Speaker 1: we've got to get into that. Both Don Tari Poe
Speaker 1: and Darryl Worley released yesterday. Of course, the report came
Speaker 1: out from Tom Pellicero earlier in the day that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys were shopping those two guys but didn't ultimately come
Speaker 1: up with a suitor, so they did end up releasing him.
Speaker 1: They were not at practice yesterday. Rob just kind of
Speaker 1: go through the move overall and what it does for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Initially, well Asaiah called it. They weren't it practice.
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy was asked directly before practice would they be there.
Speaker 1: He didn't comment on it. He said, Everson Griffin's the
Speaker 1: only move we're gonna talk about. And ultimately they decided
Speaker 1: to make that deal. That report, those two cuts, that
Speaker 1: report was accurate. A trade did not materialize, and they're
Speaker 1: moving on and you know, at least at the defensive
Speaker 1: tackle spot. It's a little bit like the Everson Griffin
Speaker 1: move where Neville Gallimore is a young player, a draft pick,
Speaker 1: they like they want to give him more snaps. And
Speaker 1: I think it just especially for Wary and Poe, it
Speaker 1: just comes down to production. They weren't getting production there.
Speaker 1: Cheeto's coming back off of ir at the cornerback spot.
Speaker 1: And you know this that free agent defensive class they've got, guys,
Speaker 1: it just has not panned out this year. No, I
Speaker 1: don't think any of us are surprised when you asked
Speaker 1: the question about, you know, what moves would be made,
Speaker 1: and we talked about the po Worli shake if we
Speaker 1: could put it together, and that that was the move
Speaker 1: that was made and based off of production guys. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's uh, it was one of those things that you
Speaker 1: also talked about the interview yesterday with with Jerry talking
Speaker 1: about done Terry Poe and just being in shape, and
Speaker 1: maybe that's indicative of just the climbing that we're in.
Speaker 1: You know, guys just hadn't been able to get in
Speaker 1: shape like that. But he came in already with the
Speaker 1: reputation of maybe playing a little heavy I can eat
Speaker 1: eat No. This is this was the right move, right.
Speaker 1: I mean these guys, they guys were there. There, there
Speaker 1: were baggage that we necessarily didn't need at this point
Speaker 1: in time. I mean obviously when you signed them in
Speaker 1: the all season, you think that you made a great move, right.
Speaker 1: You think you're bringing in some savvy vents. You know,
Speaker 1: you have a new coaching staff coming in. Um, you
Speaker 1: need some guys that can come in and kind of
Speaker 1: establish themselves. Um, they're already proven, right. You don't want
Speaker 1: to have a bunch of young guys trying to figure
Speaker 1: it out with the brand news coaching staff. So you
Speaker 1: bring in some veterans that are proven, have good track record. Well,
Speaker 1: the bad thing about bringing in veterans sometimes is they
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of motivation to drive him once
Speaker 1: they get the check right. It's either you're a guy
Speaker 1: who wants to check or you're a guy who wants
Speaker 1: to ring right. Sometimes you get the combination of both.
Speaker 1: But unfortunately the drive kind of is. Let the drive
Speaker 1: leaves some guys right, and they've already had good careers
Speaker 1: for the most part, and they come and they get
Speaker 1: some guaranteed money, which owners hate to give right. Veterans
Speaker 1: led to get it, but owners hate to give it.
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, when you happen to get that guaranteed money,
Speaker 1: if you don't have that internal drive to be great,
Speaker 1: to continue to produce, then guess what, you're literally out
Speaker 1: there just collecting the check. And it seemed like that
Speaker 1: was kind of the case for Don Tari Poe from
Speaker 1: training camp and Rob you were out there practices as well,
Speaker 1: so tell me if I'm wrong. But it seemed like
Speaker 1: at least then you didn't see that push from him
Speaker 1: at that point. You thought, maybe it's because of the
Speaker 1: injury he was out from week twelve on last season.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's gonna play a factor. Ultimately, he just never
Speaker 1: picked it back up and found it With Darryl Worley,
Speaker 1: I don't think it was necessarily a pattern of complacency.
Speaker 1: I think it was mostly just the fact that he
Speaker 1: just didn't get the schemes and had a lot of
Speaker 1: communication issues. Yeah, I don't know if it was a
Speaker 1: great you know, we talked about trying to buy into
Speaker 1: the scheme, and I don't I don't know if that
Speaker 1: was the case for all three of the players. They
Speaker 1: they've moved on from necessarily. I just look at this
Speaker 1: draft class, guys, and it's you know, they've they've had
Speaker 1: free agent classes that haven't worked out within a year
Speaker 1: or two, but not like this. Say the names, how
Speaker 1: many let's thought it? Hahaha, Okay, so m kennedy yeah, Griffin, Yeah, Griffin,
Speaker 1: Jerald McCoy's hurt, Jared, throw them in their branded car. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty bad. Alan Smith's the last man standing in
Speaker 1: Blake Bell and Blake Bill. He yea solid one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But the defensive side of the ball, it just it
Speaker 1: just hasn't hasn't worked. And I hate to agree with
Speaker 1: Mickey because Mickey always says this and I disagree with
Speaker 1: him a lot of the times. But when you're their
Speaker 1: strategy is always to kind of wade through the second
Speaker 1: and third waves of free agency, and you know, despite
Speaker 1: the names, you know, they acquired some names, signed some
Speaker 1: names in the offseason, but sometimes when they do that,
Speaker 1: there's a reason why guys still out there, and it
Speaker 1: just it hasn't worked. I think Griffin was the biggest
Speaker 1: surprise guys, because, like we said yesterday, we were all
Speaker 1: excited about that signing, and I think everybody felt like
Speaker 1: he had options he signed a weekend to camp, but
Speaker 1: he had options. He could have. Seattle apparently wanted him.
Speaker 1: If Seattle wants somebody, I'm interested, you know, because of
Speaker 1: the way they run their organization. That was a big surprise.
Speaker 1: But the other ones haven't. And now they've just got
Speaker 1: a piece of sin together the rest of the year
Speaker 1: defensively and try to show some improvement. I think if
Speaker 1: if I were given the chance to bet one of
Speaker 1: these funtwn RVs on the fact that the fact that
Speaker 1: Everson Griffin was going to be better than Robert Quinn,
Speaker 1: I probably would have done it. Like I was that
Speaker 1: confident in the fact that he was gonna come in
Speaker 1: and make an impact. And of course he was shipped
Speaker 1: off to Detroit for a six round pick, which at
Speaker 1: this point is the right move for everybody involved. It's
Speaker 1: the right move for Griffin, it's the right move for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to get some draft picks. But at what
Speaker 1: point do we look at this I don't know, and
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a question I've asked, But
Speaker 1: what point do we look at this as a coaching
Speaker 1: thing or if we look at it as just the
Speaker 1: front office thing. I don't think it's either one of those. Really,
Speaker 1: I think that the front office did their job this offseason.
Speaker 1: I honestly and truly think they did. They did their job.
Speaker 1: They got a team together mixed with young guys, makeing
Speaker 1: some guys who've been in this organization since they first
Speaker 1: came into the league, and then they win, got out
Speaker 1: some veterans that are proven. That's what you do, right,
Speaker 1: you feel your roster with And we were all sitting
Speaker 1: here talking about how much death we have, right, I know,
Speaker 1: we talked about that yesterday. So on paper, that's all
Speaker 1: you can account for. As as ownership, as management, that's
Speaker 1: all you can do is get guys that look good
Speaker 1: on paper, good guys who have historically looked good on film,
Speaker 1: and then guess what, you simply cross your fingers and
Speaker 1: hope that when you cut the check, they're going to
Speaker 1: continue to produce like they were prior to you bringing
Speaker 1: them onto your team and acquiring them. So, unfortunately, you
Speaker 1: can't control the aspect whether or not they decide they
Speaker 1: want to play or not. That's what It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: who you get. They decide whether or not they want
Speaker 1: to play hard, if they want to be effective or not.
Speaker 1: Like I said, the check is the same, and unfortunately
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys out there that will just
Speaker 1: shut it down. I guess what, whether I play hard
Speaker 1: take it. For instance, this season's not going well, right,
Speaker 1: the season's not going well. If you take somebody like
Speaker 1: a look at Seattle, like a Carlos don Lap, productive player, right,
Speaker 1: productive player, impact player. But in Cincinnati, he could decide
Speaker 1: I'm really not going to be that effective because our
Speaker 1: chances just aren't that great. Now he goes to Seattle.
Speaker 1: Oh shoot, I guarantee you that boy puts it on
Speaker 1: a hundred. Why because I now have a chance of
Speaker 1: getting a ring. So I'm gonna give it everything that
Speaker 1: I have. And unfortunately that's the reality of the matter.
Speaker 1: I think also the evaluation process was kind of stummy
Speaker 1: because of all the things that were going on. If
Speaker 1: you think about even the draft, guys didn't get an
Speaker 1: opportunity to do their pro days because of the pandemic,
Speaker 1: so a lot of that, a lot of that may
Speaker 1: have impacted the way that they looked at these guys.
Speaker 1: And on paper, guys right, it looked good. But I
Speaker 1: kudos to this front the front office for it not
Speaker 1: working out and not say Bay and let's start this
Speaker 1: thing all over and get our young guys some reps
Speaker 1: because they are relatively low risk signings in terms of money.
Speaker 1: Like I said, repre there's some there's guaranteed money involved,
Speaker 1: but they're not taking a huge hit. Uh. In with
Speaker 1: the Griffin trade, they're saving three million bucks and get
Speaker 1: a pick out of it. You would have probably gotten
Speaker 1: a competitory pick anyway. Uh yeah, I agree on paper
Speaker 1: it looked great, you know it just and I do
Speaker 1: think the COVID delay start to training camp did affect
Speaker 1: the way guys can come into camp. The ESPN report
Speaker 1: that that heck reference, Jerry told Chris Mortenson Don Terry
Speaker 1: posts forty pounds overweight. You know, that's I mean, that's
Speaker 1: just that's that's a problem when you're trying to have
Speaker 1: a you know, bang starts of the season. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of time, I think the McCoy injury is
Speaker 1: a lot larger than what we've made. I think it's
Speaker 1: a lot larger than what we what we put attention on. Um.
Speaker 1: It was very clear um on the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball and the offensive side of the ball, how
Speaker 1: well respected he was, UM to his approach, UM, his grind,
Speaker 1: his leadership. I mean, you heard a lot of guys
Speaker 1: in a short period of time bringing his name up
Speaker 1: and referencing him. And I think that once he was gone,
Speaker 1: everybody was kind of looking around trying to figure out, okay,
Speaker 1: now who now who was going to lead us? And
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody wanted to step up. Well, they
Speaker 1: looked at Poe. That's where I looked. Anyways, I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's what the same thing was in the
Speaker 1: locker room, But initially, whenever Gerald McCoy came out, or
Speaker 1: even when he was signed, it was Gerald McCoy and
Speaker 1: Doantaria Poe. It was the two guys from Carolina coming in,
Speaker 1: going to be healthy and ready to play. So whenever
Speaker 1: McCoy went out, I looked at Poe. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm not in that locker room, So
Speaker 1: I don't know if the players said that same thing. Now,
Speaker 1: kind of going based off of what HECMA and Rob said,
Speaker 1: and you're talking about the COVID off season. I know
Speaker 1: this is an excuse, but it could be some reasoning,
Speaker 1: maybe not an excuse, but a reasoning to get these
Speaker 1: guys out of the way for a rookie class, Like
Speaker 1: we mentioned some of these young guys Neville Gallimore, Bradley
Speaker 1: and I on the defensive line specifically and getting them
Speaker 1: an opportunity to show out because we haven't really had
Speaker 1: a chance to evaluate those guys. Is that a big
Speaker 1: factor whenever you're looking at personnel development right now, the
Speaker 1: fact that you think you had a really, really good
Speaker 1: rookie class and now you get a chance to look
Speaker 1: at him. Yeah. Not only that, you think about the
Speaker 1: injury to Tristan Hill as well, so all of those
Speaker 1: things being relative, Yeah, you want to get an opportunity
Speaker 1: to see what Neville Gallamar has. He's a high energy
Speaker 1: guy and anytime you look at him on film, even
Speaker 1: if he gets beat, he's still trying to get to
Speaker 1: the ball carry And I think that was the effort
Speaker 1: was what we were questioning with this defensive line. But
Speaker 1: going forward, guys, I mean, Kyle, you get your wish.
Speaker 1: You get an opportunity to see Bradley and Night so well,
Speaker 1: and even Mike McCarthy came out it was like, well,
Speaker 1: Dorn's Armstrong is gonna see a lot of playing time,
Speaker 1: and it's like, I just crush your dreams. Yeah, A
Speaker 1: little bit. It's like Mike, come on now. But Doren's
Speaker 1: Armstrong has also been putting in some good film as well. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't hate on Dorn's Armstrong. I just
Speaker 1: want to see fifty six, that's the only thing. What
Speaker 1: do you guys feel about that though, Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: they're they're clearly going younger at some spots, at the
Speaker 1: quarterback spot, you're getting a starter back, you're getting cheeto
Speaker 1: back in goodness, So that's you know, that's a little
Speaker 1: different with Worley going out. But I mean Jerry said
Speaker 1: in that that ESPN report last night, we're not giving up.
Speaker 1: They're going younger, but they obviously must feel like it's
Speaker 1: not a huge drop off in terms of what they've
Speaker 1: been getting defensively, so you know, it's this isn't a
Speaker 1: huge loss necessarily. Yeah, So I don't know. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, the division is still within reach. I think
Speaker 1: the expectations are what they are at this point. But
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't look at this as a
Speaker 1: tank move. You know, let's just get rid of everybody,
Speaker 1: cut bait and play for next year. No, you get
Speaker 1: rid of the guys who don't want to be on board.
Speaker 1: If they're not doing what if they're not participating and
Speaker 1: being active. You know, assets to the culture and the
Speaker 1: environment that you're trying to create, and they're costing you money.
Speaker 1: You get rid of them, right, I mean, it's no
Speaker 1: different than your bills at the house. Right if you
Speaker 1: have if you've been having you know, cable and you
Speaker 1: need to go to stream and guess what, you cut
Speaker 1: it off, right, I mean, it's no different, right, you
Speaker 1: cut bait. So I mean to get rid of the
Speaker 1: stuff and then guess what you're still I know the
Speaker 1: guys don't like hearing about it. All the fans are like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, we were terrible. Right now, everything that
Speaker 1: you want out of this season is still out there
Speaker 1: for you, regardless of how you feel. Take the emotions
Speaker 1: out of it. Heck them out. I don't deal with them, can't.
Speaker 1: I can't take it out. I don't do it. I
Speaker 1: don't do it emotion. You can win the division. If
Speaker 1: you win the division, what happens roight, You get a
Speaker 1: home playoff game, You get a playoff game, and if
Speaker 1: you're in the playoffs, you have an opportunity to win.
Speaker 1: What they're a good ring. The good cookie. Okay. So
Speaker 1: that's isn't that why you show up to play? Absolutely? Okay?
Speaker 1: So regardless of how things are feeling, this is what
Speaker 1: you do. You get rid of the bad eggs or
Speaker 1: the things that you don't feel like are part of
Speaker 1: a part of what you're trying to have going forward,
Speaker 1: and you try to figure this thing out and you
Speaker 1: try to get these guys jump started so that you
Speaker 1: can go out there and ultimately go after the same
Speaker 1: goals that you set forth before anybody touched the field.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just glad to hear that funtwn RV
Speaker 1: wasn't the only one that brought the fire this morning.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's, that's what I'm hearing with Isaiah now. Specifically, though,
Speaker 1: whenever you're you're talking about this, it would be a
Speaker 1: message to say you're giving up on the season. It
Speaker 1: would send a poor message to your younger players that
Speaker 1: you want to develop, You want those guys to continue
Speaker 1: driving after the division because even right now you're two
Speaker 1: and five, that looks awful, but you're still what a
Speaker 1: half game out of first place, so you have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to find a way to win that division. What
Speaker 1: kind of message would that sin if you didn't go
Speaker 1: for it, And I think you're exactly right. I'm backing up.
Speaker 1: You're saying, yeah, no, I mean and for anybody out
Speaker 1: there that's wondering about what this, what message this gives
Speaker 1: to the team, This is not oh my gosh, we're
Speaker 1: shutting it down. This is the total opposite. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is Jerry Jones letting it. And again, my belief is
Speaker 1: that Jerry has kind of has let Steven kind of
Speaker 1: take take take the reins a little bit, and every
Speaker 1: so often when things aren't necessarily going right, you see
Speaker 1: Jerry step up and say, I'm freaking Jerry Jones, this
Speaker 1: is what the heck is going on. Get rid of
Speaker 1: these jokers right here and everybody else in that locker room.
Speaker 1: Let you know, if I can get rid of these guys,
Speaker 1: you can go too. Jerry always says, if there's a tie,
Speaker 1: I break it, you don't go right, and he does
Speaker 1: delegate a lot, but he is still heavily involved in
Speaker 1: decision making. So yeah, no, I think they're still trying
Speaker 1: to play. Look, Mike, to your point, Kyle, Mike McCarthy's
Speaker 1: message continues to be we've got to find a way
Speaker 1: to play through this adversity. If you're gonna shut this
Speaker 1: down and say we're playing for next year, he's not
Speaker 1: building his program, he's not building that culture. That word
Speaker 1: we keep talking about, that's so important. So I said
Speaker 1: this a couple days ago. For fans that are mad
Speaker 1: because they think they're quitting or they're not showing enough effort,
Speaker 1: you can't say out of the other side of your mouth,
Speaker 1: well let's just shut it down, play for next year,
Speaker 1: because you're not That's what type of message are you
Speaker 1: sending to the locker room. Yeah, not. You just can't
Speaker 1: do it. You can't just say, hey, we're out on
Speaker 1: this one. Hey, by the way, we have a chance
Speaker 1: to win and go in the first place this week
Speaker 1: if we if we take down Philly because Washington is
Speaker 1: on a buy. Okay, so we're gonna step aside. Take
Speaker 1: our first break here from the Tostitos Fiesta Plaza once
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Speaker 1: when we come back, we start previewing that matchup with Philly.
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Speaker 1: with you out here on the plaza at the Star
Speaker 1: in Frisco. We're watching Ceede Lamb highlights up above us
Speaker 1: on the big screen, and he didn't have the best
Speaker 1: game against against the Washington football team last week. Looking
Speaker 1: to turn things around against Philadelphia this week. But guys,
Speaker 1: is we're looking at the table. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: the same challenges that the Cowboys faced against Washington coming
Speaker 1: up against philadel Helphia and now once again not one
Speaker 1: of the best defenses in the NFL by any stretch
Speaker 1: of the imagination. However, they do present a pass rush
Speaker 1: going up against this offensive line, and of course Robert
Speaker 1: Zaton Martin at practice yesterday. Huge sign for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: at least the fact that he's going to be back.
Speaker 1: But do we really know where he's going to be playing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't tell us yesterday. Yeah he didn't. He didn't
Speaker 1: give any hints. Um. Although he did, he didn't make
Speaker 1: it sound like he hadn't been a huge discussion to
Speaker 1: play at tackle like consistently. I think he's an emergency
Speaker 1: option out there. And when you look at the matchup,
Speaker 1: he's played against Fletcher Cox a lot, and that's the
Speaker 1: guy you point to first. I think in that matchup
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a lot of production in terms of
Speaker 1: status here. I think one and a half sacks, but
Speaker 1: he's still if you watch the games, he's still getting
Speaker 1: after the quarterback. He's Yeah, he's a large human being
Speaker 1: and Zach is too, And that might be the best
Speaker 1: place to put Zach this week. We'll see, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Heck, you might be able to tell me better.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's an edge rusher that scares
Speaker 1: me nearly as much as what Fletcher Cox brings to
Speaker 1: the table. So maybe this week guard for Zach Martin.
Speaker 1: Next week you go up against Pittsburgh, you throw them
Speaker 1: at tackle, going up against of course, the pass rush
Speaker 1: that they possess. Man, it's getting to the point now
Speaker 1: where this is going to be our tenth rotation at
Speaker 1: offensive line, ten different guys, right, yeah, ten, that's it,
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a game with musical chairs. Man.
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore hadn't slept this week, and Fletcher Cox is
Speaker 1: probably the guy that's keeping them up at night knowing
Speaker 1: what he presents. I love the fact that Zach Martin
Speaker 1: is back, but guys, it's it's gonna come down to
Speaker 1: the fact that offensive production is going to be necessary
Speaker 1: to kind of nullify this this defensive front for the
Speaker 1: Eagles because they are the strength of their team. So
Speaker 1: h not only Fletcher Cox, you have Derek Barnett, Javon Hargraves.
Speaker 1: They got a bunch of dogs that are gonna be
Speaker 1: up there. And for a rookie quarterback like Ben Denucci,
Speaker 1: he they are going to crowd the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: and do a lot of things to confuse him. Especially
Speaker 1: you know you have a defensive coordinator that has a
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback in front of him. I mean, come on, man, Isaiah,
Speaker 1: you know how it's gonna go down they go, they
Speaker 1: gonna heat that pan up. I think they're definitely gonna
Speaker 1: hit that pan up. You know. I know we're talking
Speaker 1: about how the interior presence is definitely, definitely necessary, um
Speaker 1: and how you know Big Martin might want to go
Speaker 1: up against Cox. But there's a dude on their team
Speaker 1: by the name of Brandon Graham. There he is. He
Speaker 1: just happens to be tied for third in the NFL
Speaker 1: in sacks man. He has six sacks bad a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, And you said you might want to keep
Speaker 1: an eye on him, Isaiah, who's first first in sacks
Speaker 1: is the guy from from Cleveland. We've seen him. And
Speaker 1: who's the second guy? I think it was the guy
Speaker 1: from the Rams, number ninety nine. I think Aaron Donald.
Speaker 1: So Donald. So we've seen both of those guys. They've
Speaker 1: had multiple like sacks, multiple sacks against stuff. So let's
Speaker 1: just hope Graham is not the leader belcom Pack after
Speaker 1: after Sunday night. My biggest fear, my biggest fear because
Speaker 1: right now, as my understanding, and he dot did not
Speaker 1: practice yesterday, sir, he's still in the prototill on the protocol. Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: so that's not looking good. So then we have been
Speaker 1: to Nucci. He's the Rickie, right U, the Rickie going
Speaker 1: against Fletcher Cox, who was probably you could probably fit
Speaker 1: two benda Nucci's inside of fat Fletcher Cocks. So if
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox is able to get pressure on the interior
Speaker 1: where we've had some issues, right um, and then on
Speaker 1: the outside, if we let this dude now by the
Speaker 1: name of Graham get off like he's been doing all
Speaker 1: season long, now we have pressure up the middle and
Speaker 1: the outside against a rickie quarterback who's gonna be star struck,
Speaker 1: who actually came in and play really well. But I
Speaker 1: would imagine, um, you know, I remember my first time
Speaker 1: seeing a large human being in the NFL. You know,
Speaker 1: my eyes are a little big, you know, Julius Peppers
Speaker 1: happening to walk by me one day and I was like,
Speaker 1: that's not a human. So I would imagine he's probably
Speaker 1: gonna have the same reaction against Fletcher Cox. So hopefully,
Speaker 1: you know, his eyes don't get too big. But this
Speaker 1: presents a problem for our old line. The other thing,
Speaker 1: the problem they had last week with so many young
Speaker 1: guys in there. I think Zach will help. Was beyond
Speaker 1: just the past rush. It was recognizing what it is
Speaker 1: Slinzer's rusher's coming free. I think it happened on the
Speaker 1: safety with Schultz didn't pick up somebody, and then it
Speaker 1: didn't happen a couple of other times, and so I
Speaker 1: think bringing some experience back will help just recognizing that.
Speaker 1: But you know what, Jim Schwartz, he's gonna bring pressure,
Speaker 1: He's gonna bring five and six man rushes. He's gonna
Speaker 1: bring it from different places. They've got to be got
Speaker 1: to be on point sources smiling right now, knowing that
Speaker 1: even we even when we go max protect, we're not
Speaker 1: able to protect the more. No. So I mean, with
Speaker 1: all of that being said, you have to put together
Speaker 1: a game plan for a rookie quarterback that revolves around
Speaker 1: got the running game we got, we gotta find it.
Speaker 1: We have got to find some way to to get
Speaker 1: some synergy, get some production out of our running game
Speaker 1: because it hasn't been there. If it gets to the
Speaker 1: point where we're throwing this a lot, man, this is
Speaker 1: gonna be well, I guess we're already at deathcome four level. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: what would you define that's throwing a lot. I mean,
Speaker 1: because I'm just wondering. Last game is probably the only
Speaker 1: game where we haven't thrown a lot fifty times. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fair. That's a lot. That's a lot. That's that
Speaker 1: for a rookie. I guess what thirty five forty times
Speaker 1: would be way too much. Thirty times would probably be
Speaker 1: more than you'd one. He's gonna throw out thirty times,
Speaker 1: he thinks, Yeah, yeah, he's talking about thirty times. They
Speaker 1: get behind, they're gonna have to That's been the story
Speaker 1: every game, absolutely, you know. And actually McCarthy was asked,
Speaker 1: is it hard? Is it harder to game plan for
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback? Put together one for a rookie quarterback
Speaker 1: instead of Andy Dalton? And he laughed, of course, yeah.
Speaker 1: Say basically said, is that a joke? I supposed to
Speaker 1: be laughing? Am I supposed to laugh at this? Yes?
Speaker 1: Of course it's it's a little bit. That's nothing against
Speaker 1: the Nucci, but it just is what. It's a rookie
Speaker 1: quarter He didn't have any reps, any reps zero with
Speaker 1: the first team offense and camp that I can remember.
Speaker 1: He got a very few periods or the second team probably. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that Dalton's running the scout team up. What happened to that?
Speaker 1: What happened to that? Fact? This is facts. When you're
Speaker 1: we're a third man on a totem point at quarterback,
Speaker 1: you're not getting any reps. No, you're getting snaps none,
Speaker 1: well from an assistant, you know, equipment manager, but you're
Speaker 1: not getting real snaps in practice. We also haven't seen
Speaker 1: him in a preseason game at all. That's the thing
Speaker 1: is this is a rookie quarterback drafted in the seventh
Speaker 1: round that hasn't had a preseason game, that's thrown three
Speaker 1: career passes in a real life football Gameone was nice too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was pretty nice. That was pretty nice. But kess
Speaker 1: Case still made at the point that this is the
Speaker 1: guy you're about to put behind center. But what goes
Speaker 1: into preparing a guy for that, Because there's no real
Speaker 1: life simulation that you can just throw him into. You
Speaker 1: get him as much bitch blitz film as possible because
Speaker 1: Swartz is gonna come after him. And when you think
Speaker 1: about the personalities of defensive coordinators, he is probably one
Speaker 1: of a few defensive coordinators that you like, you know
Speaker 1: what he would probably he'll probably kick you in the
Speaker 1: butt while you're on the ground. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: that's him, That's that's him. That's that guy. Right, He'll
Speaker 1: he'll put his his foot on your throat all day long.
Speaker 1: So he's he is literally smirking. He kind of has
Speaker 1: like that, that kind of arrogant little smirk to him,
Speaker 1: and he is going to come all day long. So
Speaker 1: when you're talking about trying to prepare a rookie quarterback
Speaker 1: for that with a struggling offensive line and a struggling
Speaker 1: offense and really just a struggling morale of the entire team,
Speaker 1: that's a lot man, it's a lot um. You know,
Speaker 1: I kind of just leaned back on my time when
Speaker 1: I was in New England playing quarterback in in TV twelve.
Speaker 1: Whenever you're gonna play the play the Jets, you know,
Speaker 1: you just you just watched Blitz film. You just watch
Speaker 1: Blitz film all day long because you know that's all
Speaker 1: you're gonna face. So you try to get him on
Speaker 1: the same page with his lineman and being able to
Speaker 1: identify to Mike linebacker so that they can set their protections. Um,
Speaker 1: and if you're gonna be wrong, be wrong together. But
Speaker 1: everybody needs to be going in the same direction and
Speaker 1: so everybody can be as protected as possible. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: he did say he was going to be the first
Speaker 1: one in the building in the last one out during
Speaker 1: his press conference earlier. But is that going to be enough?
Speaker 1: That's Michael. That sounds good. It does, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, but I mean, I will say this about him,
Speaker 1: and we watched we didn't see a ton of reps
Speaker 1: in camp. He's got a great arm, he can make throws,
Speaker 1: he's mobile, and I thought, you know, and it's not
Speaker 1: a lot of reps in camp, but he does have
Speaker 1: a poise back there. Yeah to him. Yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 1: had it at James Madison, we got it. You know,
Speaker 1: we saw it at Toyota Stadium a few miles down
Speaker 1: the road. Absolutely. I mean, his future was in Frisco
Speaker 1: one way or another. But I like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've had situations where we've had to go to a
Speaker 1: guy Antonio Romo, So maybe we have a little bit
Speaker 1: of magic here and that I don't know. I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to get more on that hope sandwich of mind.
Speaker 1: But you know, things are gonna break down, and that's
Speaker 1: the thing about de Nucci that you like his mobility
Speaker 1: and he theirs capability, but he's gonna have to make
Speaker 1: those short throws. He's gonna have to be on point
Speaker 1: with that because, like you guys had alluded to with
Speaker 1: the previous matchups, teams have been blitzing us crazy. And
Speaker 1: when it comes down, you know, but he he We
Speaker 1: don't have to see Buddha Baker again. But but Ross
Speaker 1: Ross the cornerback turned safety uh and McLeod those guys
Speaker 1: are going to bring pressure at the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: because you know that's what Schwartz likes to do. Uh.
Speaker 1: And so we're gonna be stretched no matter, no matter
Speaker 1: how you look at it. But it's gonna come down
Speaker 1: to can d Nucci get out of the pocket and
Speaker 1: get some yards for us? Yeah? And you know, if
Speaker 1: you look at the Eagles run defense, it's been pretty
Speaker 1: good except for quarterbacks have had success scrambling on him.
Speaker 1: Some of the jet sweeps and stuff like that. They
Speaker 1: they have not defended those. Well. I mean Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: eighty yard. Now, the finish wasn't great, but he got
Speaker 1: eighty yards out of it. So doesn't trip at the
Speaker 1: twenty yard line rely on that. Denucci's not not Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1: You know, he's not gonna kill you in that regard. Um,
Speaker 1: There's really not much that he can do to get
Speaker 1: ready aside from just watched as much film as possible
Speaker 1: and try his best to communicate um and be on
Speaker 1: a sam accord with his office on line. Other than that,
Speaker 1: it's football, um, and he's gonna get He is going
Speaker 1: to get welcome into the NFL this week, Absolutely no
Speaker 1: doubt about it. You know, we just hope that that
Speaker 1: it we ends up on a positive side of things. Now,
Speaker 1: with that even being said, I feel like it has
Speaker 1: been an under talked about aspect of this football game,
Speaker 1: is the fact that Ben de Nucci has has that
Speaker 1: mobility and when whether it was his time at Pitt,
Speaker 1: whether it was his time at James Madison, he can
Speaker 1: effectively run the football. So how does that change the
Speaker 1: play calling from Kellen Moore? Because Kellen Moore's a guy
Speaker 1: who wants to throw a thirty plus times a game,
Speaker 1: because that's what he's always done. However, it might take
Speaker 1: a little change in a little adjustments. No, you don't
Speaker 1: think so. Read option. We're ready got one quarterback and
Speaker 1: dog on who's the guy behind who's the guy behind
Speaker 1: start talking about him because Gary Gilbert, we're just making
Speaker 1: a rush in a week now rush right, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: did get Cooper Rush. Yes, sir, he's in COVID protocols,
Speaker 1: so you have to that's also going to play a
Speaker 1: part into Morris play calling because now you can't afford
Speaker 1: for him to take a hit. It's serious, I mean
Speaker 1: being serious. As an office of coordinator, you have to
Speaker 1: protect the team and say, we have to give ourselves
Speaker 1: the best opportunity to win this ball game. And if
Speaker 1: it's giving the ball to Zeke and and hoping that
Speaker 1: we get some yardists, that's what it is. But we
Speaker 1: can't have another quarterback go down. They literally cannot because
Speaker 1: if they do, you're really in some trouble. It just
Speaker 1: seems like it's gonna be hard for the receivers to
Speaker 1: really get going in this game. We'll see, I mean,
Speaker 1: because of the pressure that you're expecting. They ran a
Speaker 1: lot more too tight I thought last week, and then
Speaker 1: just to help with the protection, and it may be
Speaker 1: more of a Dalton Schultz game. I think when they
Speaker 1: had success before that, the drive before halftime where they
Speaker 1: turned it over, they got the backs involved, they got
Speaker 1: the guys out in the flat, and you know, it
Speaker 1: may have to be that type of game where you're
Speaker 1: just trying to get the ball out and again, like
Speaker 1: Heckma said, try try to get the running game go. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the thing about it is, when we talked last
Speaker 1: week about the Washington football team game, it was important
Speaker 1: that Andy got the ball out of his hands quickly.
Speaker 1: The same thing's going to be applicable to de Nucci
Speaker 1: this week. He's gonna have to get the ball out
Speaker 1: of his hands and Ceedee Lamb is not gonna have
Speaker 1: He cannot have a repeat game of last week because
Speaker 1: he had drops that would have kept the drive going.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be important for our guys to help
Speaker 1: their rookie quarterback. Really has seemed since the drop touchdown
Speaker 1: pass from Michael Gallup that the receivers just haven't been
Speaker 1: with the exception of Mamari Cooper, had been on the
Speaker 1: same page. And I feel like that's a huge part
Speaker 1: of this football game. And I want to talk about
Speaker 1: that a little bit more when we come back. We'll
Speaker 1: step aside in our final segment, We're going to talk
Speaker 1: about those receivers and how they can specifically get going
Speaker 1: against what I think is a very susceptible secondary from
Speaker 1: the eagle side of things, and we talk about that
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Speaker 1: March maybe Harrison, Rob Phillips, Isaiah Dan Backham, Kyle Yeoman's
Speaker 1: and we mentioned the last segment about these wide receivers
Speaker 1: getting off to a better start. Of course, last week
Speaker 1: no receptions for either Ceedee Lamb or Michael Gallup. I
Speaker 1: think both of those guys have to make a bigger
Speaker 1: impact in allowing a rookie quarterback to maybe find some footing,
Speaker 1: whether that's within ten yards or just having a target
Speaker 1: to throw to down the field, or maybe because the
Speaker 1: offensive line gets Zack Martin back, hopefully that helps you
Speaker 1: out in that regard as well. But heckmo, when you
Speaker 1: look at the wide receivers, is there something specific that
Speaker 1: you can point to to say they did this well
Speaker 1: early in the year, but they haven't done it as
Speaker 1: much so lately. I just think that was a better
Speaker 1: communication with Dak, which you would expect right now. These
Speaker 1: guys were on the same page and that was something
Speaker 1: that was missing when you talk about the receiving cord lately,
Speaker 1: just not having that communication. And we've talked about that
Speaker 1: at length about how you know Andy Dalton on the
Speaker 1: same page. But I mean, if you if you if
Speaker 1: you're just looking at Michael Gallup, I mean the fade
Speaker 1: routes were curls. Everything that we wanted was there for Dak.
Speaker 1: Now it's finding this rhythm again with a third string quarterback,
Speaker 1: which I'm sure they hadn't had a lot of opportunity
Speaker 1: to work with him either. But there are matchups. When
Speaker 1: you talk about the Eagles that upfront defensively, yes they're strong,
Speaker 1: but on the back part of their defense, maybe that's
Speaker 1: where we're able to expose some mismatches and Craven LeBlanc,
Speaker 1: one of their nickel corners number thirty four, is a
Speaker 1: guy that I'm looking to get Ceedee Lamb mashed up with.
Speaker 1: And also any of our guys Cooper, uh and Wilson.
Speaker 1: Any of these guys, I think in the slot it's
Speaker 1: where it's gonna be. Because he's denucis gonna be under pressure.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to find receivers. But if he gets
Speaker 1: any time, because they're gonna press us, he'll have an opportunity.
Speaker 1: And I believe these guys are like cover three zone
Speaker 1: defense basically, so it's gonna be there, but he gonna
Speaker 1: have to find it. Yeah, my biggest I have two
Speaker 1: things that I want to look out for this game,
Speaker 1: and that's one is going to be Kenny's receivers get
Speaker 1: off a pressure, off off a press man. I think
Speaker 1: I think we are going to see some cover three zone,
Speaker 1: but I think it's mostly gonna be man coverage. I
Speaker 1: think they're really gonna just challenge um not only the
Speaker 1: receiver's ability to get off the ball, but also de
Speaker 1: Nucci's ability to get through the ball accurately. I think
Speaker 1: one thing we saw last week was Andy Dalton was
Speaker 1: under pressure, and you saw the ball coming out hot right.
Speaker 1: So even though he was hitting his target and these
Speaker 1: guys were dropping the ball, it's coming out hot right.
Speaker 1: So it was it was it's not a catchable ball
Speaker 1: as we like to refer to. UM. It wasn't a
Speaker 1: lot There wasn't a lot of touch on it. So
Speaker 1: these guys the ball was getting to us marked, but
Speaker 1: that you know, these guys was going through their hands
Speaker 1: or bouncing off their chests. UM. And now going into
Speaker 1: this game, I think they're gonna see the same thing
Speaker 1: where these guys are Pressure're gonna have he contested off
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmatrom the get go. Denuci's gonna be
Speaker 1: under drest and he's gonna have to get the ball out.
Speaker 1: Now can he Can he deliver a catchable ball? U?
Speaker 1: Can he deliver a ball that's on their front shoulder
Speaker 1: instead of their back shoulder? Is the ball's gonna be
Speaker 1: hip in the air? Time opportunities for interceptions also? And
Speaker 1: something else My second point is what what kind of
Speaker 1: patience of these guys have with Denucci. You come out
Speaker 1: of the game when you're playing with the backup to
Speaker 1: the backup, UM, you know, you go in there, You're like,
Speaker 1: you know, we're on We're in this together. They're in
Speaker 1: this together, you know, for the first five series and
Speaker 1: then it's like, dat man, do I want to pay
Speaker 1: attention to see how frustrated these guys get and if
Speaker 1: they continue to rend routes with the same intention uh
Speaker 1: and the same the same diligence as they would in
Speaker 1: the beginning of a game. Yeah, Kella Moore said, the
Speaker 1: biggest thing for him, he's he's got to get in
Speaker 1: the huddle and he command this. He's got to show command.
Speaker 1: He's got to show that he knows what he's doing
Speaker 1: and he can communicate to everybody, like you said, make
Speaker 1: the make the U know, make the calls pre snap.
Speaker 1: With the Phillies secondary, I think Maddox for them is
Speaker 1: getting healthy. I don't know if he'll be back in
Speaker 1: the starting lineup. That would help. They've had Mills, They've
Speaker 1: been kind of moving things around. They've had Mills at
Speaker 1: the corner. Maybe he goes back to safety and maybe
Speaker 1: that shorts things up for them a little bit. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I think the Arizona game give credit to
Speaker 1: their d bees man. They did a great job in
Speaker 1: coverage and some of the pressure from from Arizona just
Speaker 1: came from from you know, tight windows for Dalton to
Speaker 1: throw through. Last week, the pressure was so heavy it
Speaker 1: was hard to really evaluate the receivers in my opinion.
Speaker 1: And again they went twelve personnel a lot to try
Speaker 1: to help things up upfront. Um, so we'll see. But
Speaker 1: yet you guys are right, I mean, I'm just curious
Speaker 1: to see what the timing is like with the Nucci
Speaker 1: and the wide receivers. Just it's just the simple fact,
Speaker 1: it's reality. It hasn't been there, and it's and and
Speaker 1: to Heckman's point, it took a work in progress with
Speaker 1: Dalton and the receivers. Despite the work in camp that
Speaker 1: they had. Uh, Denucci doesn't have that. He doesn't have anything,
Speaker 1: you know, a background with the wide receivers. So it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be live and see how it goes,
Speaker 1: you said, and I said, Ross, but I've meant in
Speaker 1: meals as far as the safety. Yeah, now you mentioned
Speaker 1: twelve personnel, and of course with the forty Burger offense
Speaker 1: and everything that you did drafting see the Lamb, you
Speaker 1: can have as many fantastic wide receivers on your roster
Speaker 1: as possible, but if you can only put two on
Speaker 1: the field, ultimately that takes away your advantage and having
Speaker 1: three really good wide receivers. And I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: referencing trade rumors or anything, but I'm just talking about
Speaker 1: the fact that if you're having to chip on blocks
Speaker 1: with two tight ends and you're having to to have
Speaker 1: some help extra upfront, it's gonna make it tougher on
Speaker 1: these wide receivers to make an impact. Now, you can
Speaker 1: always rotate those guys in, but is that one of
Speaker 1: the big reasons why we didn't see either Michael Gallop
Speaker 1: or a CD Lamb with a reception and instead saw
Speaker 1: a couple to go to Dalton Schultz just based off
Speaker 1: of the formation in the scheme. You just answered your
Speaker 1: question a little bit. I guess there you go. I mean,
Speaker 1: you got the guerrilla glue that that tight into your
Speaker 1: tackle in order to even get into your offense. So
Speaker 1: you talk about Graham, I mean you talk a relentless
Speaker 1: pass rush here that is one of the eleven year
Speaker 1: vet and he hadn't slowed down at all, and so
Speaker 1: on the other side of him with Barnett, they just
Speaker 1: have they what they try to do over and over
Speaker 1: is collapse the pocket, and if they can get to
Speaker 1: Danucci and to him, that's where our offense start to
Speaker 1: fall apart. And so you know, having those having that
Speaker 1: connection with your offensive line and being able to make
Speaker 1: those calls at the at the line of scrimmage is
Speaker 1: going to help him. Just stand up right, How daunting
Speaker 1: of a task is forbidden to Nucci. I mean we've
Speaker 1: already talked about how you get him ready, but specifically
Speaker 1: getting in the huddle, sounding confident, being able to call
Speaker 1: a play, and then also going up against that pass rush.
Speaker 1: It's not an easy task. That's not the that's not
Speaker 1: the part I worry about as a quarterback stepping into
Speaker 1: that situation your game, you're ready, you're ready to ball.
Speaker 1: The issue comes when you're ready to ball, you're confidence.
Speaker 1: You're stepping in there and the guys, the guys that
Speaker 1: are looking at you don't look confident. The guys that
Speaker 1: are looking at you look frustrated, they look irritated, they
Speaker 1: look hopeless. Right, and you're up there, you're motivated. You're
Speaker 1: trying to get grown men to be motivated to do
Speaker 1: their job efficiently, and that should not have to be
Speaker 1: his responsibility. He should have to go in there and
Speaker 1: do what he's supposed to do as a quarterback. He
Speaker 1: shouldn't be having a motivate other grown men, and I
Speaker 1: hope that's not the case, but when that is the case,
Speaker 1: it's very daunting. That's when things get bad. And that's
Speaker 1: why I say pay very close attention to people's body language,
Speaker 1: Pay very close attention to people's body language, because that
Speaker 1: gets really demoralizing. Man, When you throw a ball to
Speaker 1: a guy and he could he could have made that
Speaker 1: extra step or made an extra reach to catch the ball,
Speaker 1: and he just starts shaking his head and walking back
Speaker 1: to the sideline throwing his hands up, that's when you
Speaker 1: get discouraged. And that's what you know, in general terms,
Speaker 1: that's what Mike McCarthy's talking about throughout the team. You
Speaker 1: can't let bad plays or some hard drive, some rough
Speaker 1: drives affect you the rest of the ball game. And
Speaker 1: I think I think we're seeing that. We're seeing it
Speaker 1: on defense too. You know, when things aren't going well,
Speaker 1: guys they haven't reacted to it as well as they
Speaker 1: need to, and that's why things get worse of the
Speaker 1: course of the game. Have you seen poor body language Yeah,
Speaker 1: is that something that we've already been alluded to at
Speaker 1: this point, right, That's that's been our m O. Something happens,
Speaker 1: we get down, guys just go in the tank because
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, now we're down by two point. There's
Speaker 1: no way we're gonna get back. Yeah, two scores, how
Speaker 1: we're gonna get back out of there. You saw it
Speaker 1: from any Dalton last week. Any Dalton put some balls
Speaker 1: on the money and guys dropped them. In his head,
Speaker 1: He's like, come on, fellas, if I was DAK, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't dropped that, you know what, Like literally, that's the
Speaker 1: first thing that comes to your mind, Like, come on, fellas,
Speaker 1: Like I'm doing what I can. I'm gonna drest. I'm
Speaker 1: struggling over here, like when I get you the rock,
Speaker 1: you gotta catch this thing, right, And he get they're
Speaker 1: frustrated because they're like, mandak with it. That would have
Speaker 1: been a little bit softer ball. And he's like, man,
Speaker 1: with the ball touched, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: you get this little, you know, nonverbal confrontation that you
Speaker 1: have going on, and it makes it very difficult man.
Speaker 1: And then guys go to the sideline frustrated. They're talking
Speaker 1: to the coaches talking about how man I'm open on this.
Speaker 1: It gets bad really quickly. So everybody has to have
Speaker 1: a positive arale. Everybody has to have the understanding, has
Speaker 1: to have the old old New England. At this New England,
Speaker 1: but the old New England's mentality, it's like, guess what,
Speaker 1: no matter what happens, we're in a good position and
Speaker 1: we're good. We just gotta go out there and do
Speaker 1: our job play by play, muda chains and some something
Speaker 1: positive will happen. It's got to go to your playmakers.
Speaker 1: At that point, you gotta have somebody on that offensive
Speaker 1: side of the football step up. I don't know who
Speaker 1: it would be. I don't know if I even have
Speaker 1: the right to say who I think it would be.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you've got to have somebody
Speaker 1: step up. In multy moments, all of them. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: they're in a bet in that regard. They're in a
Speaker 1: better position than the Eagles because Eagles have nobody. Wins
Speaker 1: doesn't have his tight ends, he doesn't have his wide receivers.
Speaker 1: At least Denucci has really talented guys to work with. Now,
Speaker 1: can the whole operation work together, and like Isaiah said,
Speaker 1: can the communication and the rapport be there in this
Speaker 1: short period of time we're about to find out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a very good point. We got some wind coming
Speaker 1: in here. Oho, there goes the canopy above us. But
Speaker 1: it's just in time for us to get off. That's
Speaker 1: my cue, get out of here here for Talking Cowboys
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