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Speaker 3: is Thursday, March seventh, and We've got a ton of

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Speaker 3: You always picked the weirdest episodes to do it seven times.

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Speaker 3: It's like the timings I'm It's always when I'm not

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Speaker 1: Gives you a no, Bro, I'm like, dude, my feet

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Speaker 3: That's how excited I was about that hole. Tho. Shit, there,

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Speaker 3: my feet would be tapping. Gentlemen, if I were one,

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson, who has been cut by the dinner is

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Speaker 3: gonna get we Uh, We're looking at almost forty million

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Speaker 3: dollars in guaranteed money to not play football for the

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Speaker 3: Denver Broncos, who are so sick of Russell Wilson they're

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Speaker 3: going to take an eighty five million dollars dead salary

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Speaker 3: cap hit? Does this make? Is Russell Wilson cool? Now?

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 3: Like, I don't know how to contextualize this man's career

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Speaker 4: Still wouldn't call him. He's not there yet.

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Speaker 2: You know, I do think that if anything like I said,

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Speaker 2: he he's a cautionary tale, bro, like that company man, shit,

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Speaker 2: it only lasts for so long. They're not gonna be

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Speaker 2: as loyal to you as you are to them. And

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Speaker 2: granted the loyalty, they're not returning him here is giving

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Speaker 2: him eighty five million to go away, which is a

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Speaker 2: great fucking deal, right, But you know, He's someone who

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Speaker 2: poo thought that closing up to the suits would protect him,

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Speaker 2: would give him job security, would ensure that he would

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Speaker 2: be there for a long term. And he's finding out

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Speaker 2: the hallway. That's just nothing. I don't even want to

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Speaker 2: call it the hardway. It's eighty five fucking million. He's

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Speaker 2: good faith, but he's finding out on a public stage

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Speaker 2: that I'm sure it's a bit embarrassing to him, even

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Speaker 2: with that eighty five million that he's walking away with

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Speaker 2: that that nothing good comes of that, right?

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Speaker 4: But with that said, is he cool?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: If he would have been cool, if he like turned

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Speaker 2: enough them, they just got tired of You were too

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Speaker 2: much of a company man for the companymen, Bro, Like,

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Speaker 2: that's basically why they're getting you out of there. So

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Speaker 2: there's nothing cool about russelling this split that's happening.

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Speaker 1: What type of human being would you have to be

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like a little embarrassed? I would.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine, Bro, you could.

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Speaker 1: I don't There's I don't think there's anything that could

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Speaker 2: You ain't seen a little pr campaign he's going on

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Speaker 2: The fields like like, like, yeah, he dropped the clip

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. How weird of a person do

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Speaker 3: you have to be? Do y'all? But you have to

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Speaker 3: be a Russell Wilson John He in response to getting

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Speaker 3: paid thirty nine million dollars this upcoming year to not

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Speaker 1: Tough about this hint? I think I think he's not

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Speaker 1: in reality. The dude just has forgotten what reality is.

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Speaker 1: Mis Bro, Broncos, Let's right, after the loss. I think

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Speaker 1: that was that's where it crossed over where he's completely

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Speaker 3: No way you can post that after getting.

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Speaker 3: And it's particularly this time. I will say that I

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Speaker 1: Economy is failing, and this nigga's talking about tough times,

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Speaker 1: There's that's insanity, Like that's an insane thing to say

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Speaker 3: Am I tripping?

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Speaker 3: I agree with you. The weird dude, bro, Yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what the fuck you don't want to get

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Speaker 3: This isn't the two, this is the three. This is

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Speaker 3: The fuck crazy? I would anyway? All right, We've been

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Speaker 3: the way we about our youth basketball culture. But Jamal Crawford,

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Speaker 3: middle of the season. But this was Jamal Crawford's take

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Speaker 3: over the last few months in national games, watching listening

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Speaker 3: and talking to hearing there is a lot wrong with AAU,

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Speaker 3: but the parents are near the top of the list.

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Speaker 3: It's sickening. The delusion that exists is crazy. If we're

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Speaker 3: we're setting them up to fail. If we're always criticizing

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Speaker 3: You should coach them to give them all you want

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Speaker 3: Looking back, when I played AAU, the thing I take

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Speaker 3: Looking back, I wear that with pride. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 3: honest with you, bro, I do think that's a very

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Speaker 2: I think AU gets blamed for a lot of shit

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Speaker 4: Like I said, it's it's.

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Speaker 2: Not I feel like one of the running themes is

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Speaker 2: And granted, AAU is not the most organized basketball, right,

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Speaker 2: Like a lot of times it's just five guys out there,

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Speaker 3: Like I remember, Baxter Holmes.

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Speaker 2: Wrote an incredible article on all the AAU basketball that

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Speaker 3: Think the reason it gets a particular spotlight is it's

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Speaker 3: to when they get famous, right, Like you could be

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Speaker 1: You see him in a major league five years from now,

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Speaker 2: Way, right, they snatch those kids out of middle school,

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Speaker 3: Right, and so you know, so when I look at

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Speaker 3: It's just like it's crazy. And the social media. I

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, I don't know that's two no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: Because we have seen people, No, we have seen people

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Let me give you an

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Speaker 3: Jesus right, So what is that for? Is that for

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Speaker 3: you post my commitment video for high school? No, we're

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Speaker 1: Like kids are getting paid big bucks in high school

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Speaker 3: But he's a great example of why he's getting ten

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Speaker 1: Like he's driving eleventh grade. He had a fucking Lamborghini

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Speaker 3: Right, that's it. But I think you hit it on

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Speaker 3: And for some reasons, societally, everyone is so interested in

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Speaker 1: When I learned that AAU is more important in high school,

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Speaker 3: It's going the way we all thought. You feel me,

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Speaker 3: Is he serious? Do you think this is just a

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Speaker 2: he's someone who has gotten his fair shared jokes on

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Speaker 2: you know, so seriously that he's worrying about going out

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Speaker 4: So you know, I'm I'm I'm gonna hold signed to it.

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Speaker 4: I think he's telling the truth.

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Speaker 2: I think he probably will be out there next All

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Speaker 3: Here, prayers up.

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Speaker 1: There hasn't been yeah, right, there hasn't been a dunker

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Speaker 1: I don't believe it. I hope I'm wrong, and I

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Speaker 3: So I'll believe it when I see it, all right.

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Speaker 6: I think the good the good part of it the

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Speaker 3: Put straight on the reserves like that, they'll be crushing

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's gonna be a reserve if he's an All Star.

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Speaker 6: The public pressure will be crushing down on him in

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Speaker 6: let's bring back shame. If he tries to back out

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Speaker 3: I mean, Shane though, Like let's let's even with the

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Speaker 1: I think shame has an important place in society and

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Speaker 1: it's not you know, like you know, we need we

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Speaker 1: too heavy on it, right, you can't take it all

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Speaker 3: We we've gone too far taking it all the way out,

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Speaker 1: We got inject a little bit of shame back in

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Speaker 3: All right, don't you have no shame?

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Speaker 1: Nigga, yigga that that ship hit Niggah White, what happened

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Speaker 3: mean they're shame heregg o. God yea. We need a

436
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:12,199
Speaker 3: little shame, all right, did we? It is there a

437
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 3: Jenkins and Jones jinx. We talked about the thunder and

438
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 3: the Celtics. We gave him their own segments on the

439
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 3: last pot. I believe the clips even got social. The

440
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 3: thunder proceeded to lose to the Lakers by seven hundred points,

441
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 3: and then the Celtics let Dean Wade absolutely dismember them

442
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 3: last night, outscored them twenty to seventeen points in the

443
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 3: fourth quarter to break their win streak. Jason Tatum was

444
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 3: doing the Charlie Brown voice in the press conference after

445
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 3: the game. You know what I mean, It's like really

446
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 3: interesting call. I don't know why they his voice goes

447
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,160
Speaker 3: down to zero point one decibel after they lose. Man,

448
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 3: what do we think is it? Did do we get

449
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 3: to claim some credit for this? I would be more than.

450
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 2: Happy to the good old Jenkins and Joness. But the

451
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,640
Speaker 2: thing with the Lakers and the thunder Lakers have had

452
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 2: their number all fucking season, right like every time they've played,

453
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 2: and it's it's it's just very unique. Like you know,

454
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 2: it comes back to them being a very talented young

455
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 2: squad and like it's being a bunch of old heads

456
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 2: who you know, have been scrambling this season. But they

457
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 2: will beat the ship out of a young team that

458
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 2: still you know, needs some experience under their belt. So

459
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 2: you know, and as far as the Celtics, this is

460
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,719
Speaker 2: just what they do, Bro, Like, you know, this is

461
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: just what they do. They're gonna have that inexplicable losses

462
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 2: snap what their eleven game winning streak. I'm going to

463
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 2: like hold off all judgment until the playoffs. But this

464
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 2: these this postseason, Bro. If the Celtics underperformed this post,

465
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 2: Even'm gonna have some serious discussions about that squad.

466
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 3: Bro, this is a must win championship year for the Celtics.

467
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 3: Feels like it does at least does it.

468
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 2: Not at least the finals in a good showing against

469
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 2: Denver if Denver makes it there, right, Like, I don't

470
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 2: think anyone will hold it against the IMF they lose

471
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 2: the Nuggets.

472
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 3: But in terms of what they do with them's like

473
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 3: I will.

474
00:22:58,960 --> 00:22:59,919
Speaker 4: Against none of.

475
00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: No, no, no.

476
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 3: But seriously, look, they're gonna be the one seat by

477
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 3: a healthy margin. They made roster moves to optimize what

478
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 3: they saw as the core of this era for them.

479
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 3: So if they don't win with that, I do feel

480
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 3: like that's a bit of a moment for consideration.

481
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: They'll be known as the team like the closest equivalent

482
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: I have to that is like the Nigga with the

483
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: big dick. They can't fuck like, bro, he packed him,

484
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: but he do not know what to do with that motherfucker.

485
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: You ain't had homegirls tell you that shit, you know

486
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: what I mean, not me in particular, you know what

487
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, yeah, so I was fucking with old

488
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: boy and he's sitting there, but he ain't.

489
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 3: You know. That's what they are, bro.

490
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 1: Like you said you talked about it before, Mike, you said,

491
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: they constantly are tripping over their dick. And that's what

492
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 1: it feels like with the Celtics, and that's what we'll

493
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: know them for if they just you know, have the

494
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: team they have and can't fucking you know what I'm saying,

495
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: finish a job?

496
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 3: All right. We didn't talk last episode about Chris Mortenson passing,

497
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 3: but I just wanted to acknowledge. Always sad, obviously when

498
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 3: people pass away. I love finding out.

499
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 1: Sorry, going from tripping over Diggs to talking about this,

500
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 1: that was.

501
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 3: But you had to do it. It was a next on

502
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 3: the list, you know, And I can't. I can't do

503
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: the next time before this topic. The next topic would

504
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 3: be worse to do before this. We're sorry, We're sorry, Mike.

505
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 3: What was the toe tapping? When I did let's go

506
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 3: back to that. But I just always liked finding out.

507
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 3: I wish we found out people were good people more

508
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 3: often while they were alive and not after they passed.

509
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 3: But I don't know if you if you all saw

510
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 3: to Sean Reid's tweet about Chris Mortenson first of Alley

511
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 3: six ninety eight unread text messages for to Sean Reid

512
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 3: not to brag, but he tweeted this text message he

513
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 3: got from Chris Mortenson. He said, just blind text, young man,

514
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 3: this is Chris Mortenson. Just wanted to congratulate you on

515
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 3: winning the Terrez Palor Award. It's special. He was special.

516
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 3: That makes you special. Now God bless you and live

517
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 3: a great life dash CM. That's an amazing fucking text message. Bro.

518
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, We've heard so many stories, you know, from so

519
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: many you know, people in the football journalism space about

520
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: how you know, when they were starting off, when they

521
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: were just getting their legs underneath them, that Chris Mortenson

522
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 2: always was the one reaching out like, hey, great job

523
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: here if you need anything, right, Like I think Mina

524
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 2: said that he reached out to her, and and you know,

525
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 2: Adam Shepper said, you know I'm not here without him, right,

526
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 2: like Chris Mortenson is like.

527
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 4: The OG school guy.

528
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: He's just you know, he's just a figure from a

529
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 2: very special time to people our age, our generation who

530
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: kind of fell in love with football where you know,

531
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: he was on that pandel with Boom and Tom Jackson

532
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: and it was just a glorious time, you know, in

533
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: regards to not only the football product that was being

534
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: put on the fields, but also like the journalism the

535
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: way it was covered. Granted it's some archaic things like

536
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: the whole jacked up clip that is is.

537
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 3: Kind of like, you know, we'll never go back to

538
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 3: that ever again, but.

539
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: You know, it's just he's he's just like a was

540
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: a foundation of a foundational figure doing a very very

541
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: special time in a lot of our lives as sports fans.

542
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he was Twitter before we had Twitter.

543
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 3: Like when they did that cut to mort on ESPN,

544
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 3: like you were like, oh shit, like that was the

545
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 3: original tweet notifications.

546
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 2: And and and the thing about mort was he wasn't

547
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: into the the gossipy side of the school. If anything,

548
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: he was into the into the x's and O side

549
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: of it. Right Like if he told you that such

550
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: and such team was out there looking for you know,

551
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: an edge rushing, you know, offensive linebacker. He'd explained how

552
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: they fit into his scheme, why they were targeting him.

553
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:57,959
Speaker 4: And things like that.

554
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 2: Right, Like, he was someone who would sprinkling some football,

555
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 2: not some football expertise in his scoops. He was just

556
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: he was the perfect scoop man, you know, just the

557
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: standard right there, bro for sure.

558
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about John. You tell me if

559
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: you agree this would have been a harder segue at

560
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: Chris Mortenson passing away. Let's talk about Miami canceling spring Break. Yeah,

561
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 3: I agree. Shows. I don't know if y'all saw this,

562
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 3: but the Miami Beach is going to do everything. They've

563
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: had two or three years in a row of like

564
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 3: big fights and violence and crazy shit going on during

565
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 3: spring Break on the beach. So they've announced they're going

566
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 3: to do everything they can to try and stop spring Break.

567
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 3: I love that. The lead of the AP story about

568
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 3: this was Miami Beach is trying to break up with

569
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 3: spring Break. But it's not yet clear whether spring Break

570
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 3: will take the hint. But they're talking about bringing forty

571
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 3: five state law enforcement officers onto the beach. Perfuse bag

572
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: search is at the beach shoes and early beach closures,

573
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 3: DUI checkpoints, and arrest for drug possession and violence. And

574
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 3: as I think John said, business owners not real happy.

575
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so yeah, I'm I'm I'm curious. So someone tweeted,

576
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 3: that's how you know this generation of kids is the

577
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 3: wildest generation of kids ever that Miami is trying to

578
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 3: cancel a spring break?

579
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, when when Miami, of all places, like all right,

580
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: let's let's pump the brakes on the hedonism a bit here, right, like, like, bro,

581
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: what have y'all done? But you know, the whole thing is,

582
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: I think it's very possible that they can make it

583
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: a terrible experience. They're going to have to really dig

584
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: into trenches, right because the kids just aren't gonna say, oh,

585
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: Miami said not to come there, let's not come there. No,

586
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: those kids are gonna go there. But they're just gonna

587
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: have to make that experience very shitty and make kids

588
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: not want to come back. And if you bring forty

589
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: five extra law and enforcement people who are just gonna

590
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: be on South Beach, that sounds like the approach that

591
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: probably will do it.

592
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 3: I mean, dog like sobriety test bag searches.

593
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: Dog, it sounds like all the white folks is being

594
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: treated like niggas, now, you know what I mean.

595
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 3: Like they did that.

596
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 1: I'm certain they probably did at Virginia Beach when there

597
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: was events there. They did it a freak nick black

598
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: Bike week in South Carolina, you know what I'm saying.

599
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 3: And it worked, I mean Myrtle Beach. So I feel

600
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 3: like I feel like it.

601
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how you you're you're you're sitting there

602
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: high as fucking a coppage search in your fucking.

603
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 3: Bag, you know what I mean.

604
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: Like you're supposed to be some sober on on during

605
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, spring break.

606
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: That's the opposite of white to go to spring you know,

607
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? So like, yeah, bro, they

608
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: don't go. Yeah, I wanted to go catch the spring

609
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 3: break sunrise right right right.

610
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: For going to Miami during spring break as a young person,

611
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: Like how much money do you really have? I watching

612
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: my ass to Panama City, bro, you know what I mean,

613
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: we were staying four deep in a cheap ass hotel.

614
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: Had to foot that motherfucker, you know what I'm saying. So,

615
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, I think doing that

616
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: will for sure work. I've never seen that being done

617
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: and did not work. They aided freaknick freaknick stuff bro

618
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: like that. Nigga like that as beautiful as that was.

619
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, trouble you know what I mean?

620
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean going going back to what you said,

621
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: springboarding off that, you know, on a serious note, I

622
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: think this is just like a prime example because you know,

623
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: the president that they have here in Florida is stopping

624
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: Frist law is legal there. Right, This is just a

625
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: prime example of you know, you people will be for

626
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: for racist laws that are inact because they think it's

627
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: only gonna affect brown and black people. Turn that shit

628
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: on you if need be as well. Right, So now

629
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: it's going to be a bunch of white kids who

630
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: are going to have their constitutional rights violt because stopping

631
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: Frist is some bullshit regards of what happens to But

632
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: the president has been set there and Florida was all

633
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: for it because they knew that that law would target

634
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: brown and black people.

635
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 3: Right. So yeah, well, and that there's also civil rights

636
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: groups in Florida who are saying that because there's more

637
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 3: black people going to spring break in Miami.

638
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 4: That's wow.

639
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: Okay, that's why you know that it is because Tyler,

640
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: you said you said something before we started recording about

641
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: that happening in Virginia.

642
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 4: Right, oh for sure.

643
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: Like if you're my age and grew up in Richmond,

644
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: you know that Broad Street, which is the street that

645
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: runs through downtown. Broad Street was more jumping than the clubs,

646
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: dog like cruising up and down Broad Street. Like there

647
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: was this corner, this intersection on Broad shet and Belvedere

648
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: where there was a Hes gas station and a right

649
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: eight on the other side. That was the best spot

650
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: to be in the city on a Friday or Saturday night.

651
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: Fuck the club, right, you pull up there with your hoomis.

652
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: You know it's gonna be girls pulling up. You know,

653
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: y'all gonna hop out, y'all gonna holler at each other, whatever, whatever.

654
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: It was way better than the clubs. And cops just

655
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: shut that shit down.

656
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 3: You know.

657
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: You you close off streets, you make certain streets one

658
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 2: way only, you do spot checks.

659
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 4: You know it's and then they crack it down.

660
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: They make it to the point where you just realize

661
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: it's not worth it to go out there, because you

662
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: know it's not gonna be jumping. It's gonna be aheadache

663
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: CoP's gonna harass you. So like I said it, You know,

664
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: shutting down spring Break for a whole city might sound

665
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: like a huge endeavor, but it's really not because the

666
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: only thing you need to do is have a law

667
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: enforcement force that is committed to being dickheads of people.

668
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 4: That's it.

669
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: I want to argue that those type of situations where

670
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: people that like the gas station did everybody go to

671
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: we had a checkers that everybody pulled up at those

672
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: situations are way better than any club, nigga, you know

673
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, like I remember, like we had

674
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: this text co Motherfuckers was posted up at all the

675
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: time in high school, you know what I'm saying. In

676
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: college there was just checkers that everybody would just post.

677
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: Up a kick it, you know what I mean? Those

678
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: are way more fun.

679
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: I don't know about danger shit wor keep the crackings sometimes,

680
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: but like it didn't it felt like a way more

681
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: enjoyable experience and going to some fucking club, you know

682
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: what I mean. Not out the cities that have that

683
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: type of shit. I don't think big cities generally happen.

684
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if LA they have a fucking gas

685
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: station and people pull up to people too boogie here,

686
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

687
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 3: Not in La Proper and all of the community cities

688
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: around it, Like Mam Beach has Corney Corner, which is

689
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 3: a spot on the bay here. That's like I mean,

690
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: if you go to Horney Corner of fourth of July,

691
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 3: Bro's ten thousand crack crack. It's funny crack and it's

692
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 3: you know, of every different background and ethnicity just on

693
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: the beach, you know whatever. But yeah, there was a

694
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: study about that that it was like young people aren't

695
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: hanging out more, hanging out as much. And there was

696
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: a little argument on Twitter about is this because of

697
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 3: smartphones or is this because there is nowhere for them

698
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: to hang out that does not cost money? You know

699
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: what i mean? Oh, Like also in the South, Bro,

700
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: you hang out of Texico.

701
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: We posted up and you can eat nigga Like you

702
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: can get a wing and fucking potato, you know, potato wedge.

703
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, a little three wing potato

704
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: wedge meal. You know what I'm saying, That mofucker cracking

705
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: at a gas is in the South, got good fool,

706
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying so, yeah, this is a

707
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: different environment set up for you know, different type of fun.

708
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, all right, our last topic and a question

709
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask all three of you guys, is this, uh.

710
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 3: For Sharon I's fortieth birthday, we bought ourselves a record player,

711
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 3: and I think I was talking on here about you know, well,

712
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: there's a lot of science behind this, but when you

713
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 3: have too many options, your brain has no options. And

714
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: so Sean and I were both people who cared deeply

715
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 3: about music and about books our whole life. Has been

716
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 3: a big part of our relationship. When we didn't have

717
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 3: any money, the place we would go hang out was

718
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: a bookstore and we would just we would call it

719
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 3: a bookstore day. We would go for three hours look

720
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 3: at books, usually not have the money to buy anything whatever.

721
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 3: But music to me used to be, as we've discussed

722
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 3: several times on this show, as y'all talked about with

723
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 3: the School Book You album, it was just it used

724
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: to be the most special thing in my life. Almost.

725
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: It felt like that you would be so excited to

726
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 3: get a new CD. You would go, I'd go to

727
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: a Miba and look for an older CD whatever, and

728
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 3: then you would have that physical object. You would be

729
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 3: excited about it. You would open it and look at

730
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 3: the booklet. I would read all the whatever, and there

731
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 3: all this other shit. Then we had an iPod, which

732
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 3: was like the digital version of that, and I was

733
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: obsessive about getting all my mix CDs and playlists on

734
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: the iPod. So I had all that shit with me.

735
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 3: That also felt very cool. Then the streaming service started,

736
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 3: and I feel like I basically stopped listening to music.

737
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 3: Oh wow, you know, like I still listen to stuff,

738
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: but it's like, oh, I want to listen to that

739
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 3: album and I would bring it out. There is no

740
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: comparable browsing experience for me on streaming services that has

741
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: anything like that special feeling or whatever. So you might

742
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 3: still have it around a new release, but I was

743
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 3: missing that, and so that's why we said let's just

744
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 3: start over, Like let's just get a record player. Neither

745
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 3: of us ever had one before, and like, I don't

746
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 3: feel good listening to CDs now. That feels like I

747
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 3: don't know, like ex girlfriend or so, you know what

748
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 3: I mean, Like there's nothing there anymore. Like that phased

749
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: out when we were in college, basically.

750
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: So.

751
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: We got a record player and then we got the

752
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 3: fun experience of picking out the first thing that we

753
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 3: were going to buy and like bring home or whatever.

754
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: We let the kids pick out an album too. They

755
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 3: picked out a Miley Cyrus album because that's my favorite,

756
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 3: you know person. So we we. But so my question

757
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 3: to you guys, i'll tell the story of what I did, was,

758
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: is if if you're in that situation, John, I know

759
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 3: you already have a record player, Tyler Jackson, you're cooler

760
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 3: than me. You guys probably do too, But like, if

761
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 3: you're starting a music collection over, what would your first

762
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: thing be is it? Is it something that's sentimental or

763
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: is it something that you know you could listen to

764
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 3: one hundred times without getting tired of it. My pick

765
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: was a Dukie by Green Day because that was the

766
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 3: first CD that I bought, so that felt symbolic to me.

767
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: It's also something like I'm trying to get the kids

768
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 3: to listen to a little bit more. You know. They

769
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 3: listened to mostly like pop stuff because that's kind of

770
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 3: what's around them. So I went with Dukie and yeah,

771
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 3: I listened to I don't know. We've had it for

772
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 3: a week. I've listened to the album four times. I

773
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,479
Speaker 3: don't know the last time I listened to my album

774
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: four times in a week. It was probably when I

775
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 3: was still on some kind of physical media. So but anyway,

776
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 3: what would your first record be if you're restarting over

777
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: with physical media for the first time.

778
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 4: Right now, that's a good question.

779
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: I remember during like my high school days, this was

780
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: like my favorite music setup I ever had where I

781
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 2: had my My mama got like a new stereo system,

782
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: so she let me have her old stereo system, big

783
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: bulky motherfucker right, some ship from from the eighties.

784
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 3: It was big ass knob right.

785
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: The deck was big as fuck, and it was on

786
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 2: my dresser. The deck was about about you know, two

787
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: feet tall, about three feet wide, about fucking one hundred pounds.

788
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: Had some house speakers that were like, you know, three

789
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: feet tall, and you know, of course you remember back then,

790
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 2: if you had some speaker wire and you had some

791
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 2: some other speakers, you could plug that ship in and

792
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 2: it was still playing. So I had like some little

793
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: baby speakers that I like wrapped around my room. So

794
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: I gave myself like surround sound, and I had a

795
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: black light with the glow and the dark stars on

796
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: the scene. Bro Yes and I remember playing Aliyah one

797
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 2: in a million for the first time with all that

798
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: ship at its peak powers, with the black light on,

799
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: with my stars glowing, and hearing that just like to

800
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 2: hear for one Aliah's wanted to It was just some

801
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: shit we had never heard before, right, And to just

802
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: hear that and hear the surround sound of the crickets

803
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 2: and shit, I was like, bro, I don't know if

804
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: music is ever going to feel any cooler than this

805
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: to me. So, you know, there's a part of me

806
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 2: that says I would probably try to recapture that, but

807
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 2: there's a part of me that also is like, I

808
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 2: will never be able to recapture that, you know what

809
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 2: I'm saying, and and and especially on on vinyl, because

810
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: the kind of appeal of Aaliyah's music was it was futuristic.

811
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 2: It was it was it was it was you know,

812
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 2: some some shit that we had never quite heard before,

813
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: and it still holds up today, like fucking twenty six

814
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: years later, it's still some shit that you know, feels

815
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: like it's from the future. So I mean, I would

816
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: probably try to see if I could recapture that with Aaliyah,

817
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 2: but I might just go with like The Angelo's Voodoo

818
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: because I feel like, you know, it's mine, Yeah, because

819
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: The Angelo's Voodoo, Like I think it's a perfect vinyl album,

820
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: because I think the thing about the appeal of viny is,

821
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,959
Speaker 2: you know that analog sound, it's so warm, it feels

822
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: like you're in the room. It feels like the music hugsy, right,

823
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: and Voodoo translated that way even on CD, even in

824
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: a digital media when at first drop, because you know,

825
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: he had recorded that at Ladyland Jimmy hendrix old studio,

826
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: and they just and he wanted it to sound like

827
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: some shit from the seventies, right.

828
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 4: He didn't want you know.

829
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: The theclusics drowned out and all those precautionary tale and

830
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: all those precautions that were put in to kind of,

831
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 2: you know, make music sound like it was from two

832
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: thousand instead of nineteen seventy six. He wanted that shit

833
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: to sound like a Jimmy Hendrix album. Is as far

834
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: as the little thing. So so Voodoo will probably be

835
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 2: my pick for Vonum.

836
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 3: Voodoo's my favorite album of all time. So I would

837
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 3: definitely choose Vodoo.

838
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 1: But speaking of why you listen to that album multiple times,

839
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 1: it could have been nostalgia or whatever, but there's like.

840
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: Science behind like our iPods. Like I mean, I like

841
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 3: this digital music.

842
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds the exact same every time, and it's

843
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: the first time where you listen to it and it

844
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 1: just sounds the exact same every time. Even in CDs

845
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: are the little scratches and Vinyl the scratches that pick

846
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: up so just like subconsciously your brain picks it up,

847
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: so it does sound a little different. And they say,

848
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: that's maybe why we don't listen to albums as much

849
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: over and over and over, because it's you know what

850
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

851
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 3: Also, well, what we also used to listen to music

852
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 3: in different places. You would listen to the same Uh,

853
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 3: you know Aliyah song on TV on MTV, you would

854
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 3: listen to it on your CD. You would hear it

855
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: in the car, so you would hear it in it

856
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 3: right Whereas now it's kind of like everyone's got their

857
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 3: headphones and they're all different experiences.

858
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: To the car is a very different experience anywhere else

859
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: listening to music.

860
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

861
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: Uh, But like what Tyler said about Vinyl, right, like

862
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: my favorite album, I would buy school Boy C's album

863
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: on vinyl, and I probably will offers it because it

864
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: does have a lot of like like the tones that

865
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: about a lot of strip down soul and shit on

866
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: there exactly, So like I would definitely do that. But

867
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 1: my favorite albums are jazz albums. Bro Like, jazz sounds

868
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: so good on vinyl, you know what I'm saying. So

869
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, like the next album I think you

870
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 1: should get to be a jazz album I'm getting.

871
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 3: The next album I'm getting for sure is the that

872
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 3: canniball out of the album I talk about all that

873
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: to us, my favorit my favorite album probably of my thirties.

874
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: I think kind of Blue, kind of kind of blue,

875
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: and it goes crazy, Davis, kind of Blue goes crazy.

876
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: Being at your house, by the way, was why. That

877
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 3: was what pushed me over the edge on like, you

878
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 3: know what, we have the money to just rebuy some

879
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: things that we like, you know what I mean, like

880
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 3: if it feels fun and exciting. But it was cool

881
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 3: coming home with the kids. The kids, the kids had

882
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 3: never seen an album insert before, right right right, they've

883
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 3: never seen it before. They pulled it out in there,

884
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: like the lyrics are on this. I was like, yeah,

885
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 3: we used to have a fucking society. Bro, right right,

886
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 3: right right.

887
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: I also speak to Tyler's fact that I'm talking about

888
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: Aliyah you can't recreate it.

889
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's just because.

890
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: The sound, but Aliah in the nineties was just like

891
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: a fucking bro.

892
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: It was Mary was like Mary was the Queen of

893
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: r and b Aliah was the princess.

894
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: Bro. She was that big man is he insane? Like

895
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 3: like it was I remember, I mean, I don't know, dude,

896
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 3: people stid do this. I remember like.

897
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: All my homegirls were like like memorizing all the choreography

898
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: to a Leah's songs, like they be in the lunch

899
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: room doing the dance, playing the music, doing the dances.

900
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like before school the shit,

901
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: oh you know what I mean? Or like bro like

902
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: it was bro. It was just really she was just

903
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: so different. I remember when she passed, it was like,

904
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: it's not possible. It's not possible. This couldn't have happened.

905
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 3: It has to be a lot.

906
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 1: She's too big, too important, you know what I mean

907
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: to everybody, Like she was cool to the dude, we

908
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: thought she was bad, but we also thought she was cool. Right,

909
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: niggas wanted like, you know what I'm saying, like she

910
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: could be the homie. You feel what I'm saying Like

911
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: she was so different, Bro, she was a super nova.

912
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: I don't know you could repeat that, because the feeling

913
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: of a Leah during that time was it was it

914
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: was so palpable, you know what I mean, like just

915
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: her existence.

916
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 3: Anyway, Jackson and yep action, Do you have a record player?

917
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: I do?

918
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 6: And so my answer is I was just thinking about

919
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 6: my own collection and trying to pull from that to

920
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 6: try to answer the question. And I'm just trying to

921
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 6: pick a few from a different era. But the ones

922
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 6: that jumped out to me were Nirvana's I'MTV Unplugged set.

923
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 6: I have that one on vinyl, which is really dope.

924
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 3: That's one of my five favorite albums of all.

925
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 6: Time, Jackson Azing, and it's sick on vinyl, So I

926
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 6: would recommend getting that one.

927
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 3: Oh, this was so exciting to me. Bro. The last song,

928
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 3: which is a cover and I forget what it is.

929
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 4: It's a Lead Belly cover where Were You Last Night?

930
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 3: Well? Yeah, that song being basically the last fucking thing

931
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 3: he sang before he killed himself. Bro, is like the

932
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 3: most heartbreaking beautiful shit like that was something like being fifteen,

933
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 3: like is humanity? Like? Are we actually? Because my parents

934
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 3: did not like people, you know what I mean. I

935
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 3: did not grow up in a religious household that was

936
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 3: like the world was meant to put us here, Like

937
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 3: I grew up with parents who are like, unfortunately, people exist,

938
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 3: so here's how we have to like try and make

939
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 3: our way. And hearing that song is one of those

940
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 3: moments you're like, is there some sort of divine presence

941
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 3: in human beings? Like I don't know, there might be

942
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 3: something to this shit, you know.

943
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 6: A whole album and that was that really like that

944
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 6: really jumped out in my mind when Tyler was talking

945
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 6: about like the warm feeling that listening on vinyl gives you,

946
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 6: So that one, for sure. I was trying to think

947
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 6: of one from different eras, and so good Kid Mad

948
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 6: City came to mind as well, and then an even

949
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 6: more modern one that I feel like could be good.

950
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 4: I don't know if you're if you let the kids

951
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 4: or if they've watched Guardian.

952
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 6: To the Galaxy yet yeah yeah, yeah, but the Guarding

953
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 6: to the Galaxy soundtrack ripped, so I have that.

954
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 3: That was their second so that was their second pick.

955
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 3: They ended up going with Miley Cyrus because Vincent was

956
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 3: trying to be nice to his sister and I said

957
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 3: they could only buy one. Basically what happened and then

958
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: uh and then good Kid, Mad City was what that

959
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 3: was what I ended up picking Dukio. But that was

960
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 3: the last CD I bought that had that feel of

961
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 3: like yeah, yeah, like I opened it in the Target

962
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 3: parking lot, you know what I mean, and like put

963
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 3: it in the like. That was the last CD I

964
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 3: was that excited about. So, all right, shit, here's to

965
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 3: you know. That's a great question, Mike, who you bro?

966
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 3: Wasn't a lot of so many? Got so many? Yeah? Yeah, bro?

967
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,959
Speaker 3: Well that's what was fun about it for us was like, wow,

968
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 3: there's a hundred good choices here. Like if I have

969
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 3: this exact same thought John, I was like, obviously I'm

970
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 3: gonna get a jazz album like number one, And then

971
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, I don't know, like should it

972
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 3: be something like? But it was that you have to

973
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 3: pick one because you can't just walk around with every

974
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: song that's ever been recorded on your smartphone. You have

975
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 3: to buy one album. Also going to record stores.

976
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: My mind is so much more open than when I'm

977
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: scrolling through my ship, you know what i mean. Like

978
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: going through record stores, I'll see like I'll go to

979
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: any section, you know what I'm saying, and if it

980
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: looks interesting, there's science that yeahs doing something different, yeah yeah.

981
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: And then I'll play shit that I never would have played,

982
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: and I love it. I have some albums that like

983
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: I would have never played, you know what I'm saying.

984
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: If I just went through Spotify and was scrolling, yeah,

985
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and you know I'm weird,

986
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I'll try this today, you know what

987
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But like, my mind's so much more open

988
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: the record stores and it's such a great feeling. I

989
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: have a photo of tell me like on my shoulders

990
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: in a record store and it's like, Bro, it's just

991
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: like the energy record store is just so perfect.

992
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 6: Bro.

993
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, next time you're in Long Beach, I'll take you

994
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 3: to Fingerprints. We have an all time great record store

995
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 3: in Long Beach. I've seen a ton of great bands there.

996
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 3: I work with like eighty people.

997
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: We'll travel, we'll stop at the record store, Like you

998
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We do it in New Orleans

999
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: we did it new Portland when we was there. Like

1000
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: when we go out of town, we'll stop the record

1001
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: store just to grab something. Like record storees are just

1002
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: a special special place. They feel like libraries to me.

1003
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: But for music, you know what I mean?

1004
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 6: There is a recommendations if you are into like earliest

1005
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 6: like mid twenth as, like indie rock.

1006
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 4: But I feel like could be your vibe, Mike.

1007
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, The Strokes this is it ye also one of

1008
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: my very favorite albums.

1009
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 6: And Broken Bells self titled Broken Bells Album amazing.

1010
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know them, if they rock, all right,

1011
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 3: there's good Strokes this is it. Yeah.

1012
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: That that ship dropped nine eleven, two thousand and one,

1013
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 2: same day, same day to Blueprint drop, and I remember,

1014
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: like I was like, bro, like you know, I love Blueprint,

1015
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: but I was like, let me download this Strokes to

1016
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: I was a bro Colar kid, and.

1017
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 3: I got that dropped on nine eleven.

1018
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot the Blueprint dropped on nine to eleven. Dog, Yeah,

1019
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah anyway. Yeah.

1020
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 3: Ben Ben Foles was a singer songwriter shar and I

1021
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 3: like also had an album drop on nine to eleven.

1022
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 3: But I remember the Strokes I always remember that came

1023
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 3: out then because it sounded so different from rock music

1024
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 3: pre nine to eleven, which was more like pop punk

1025
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 3: and like aggressive and stuff, and the Strokes is very

1026
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: like Obviously, they didn't record it knowing that at you know,

1027
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 3: nine to levels happened, but it sounds like the music

1028
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 3: you would listen to after it felt like the country

1029
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 3: was falling apart, you know what I mean. Like it's great,

1030
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 3: it's great music, but it's it's so laid back compared

1031
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 3: to what had been popular from rock bands prior to that,

1032
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

1033
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 2: That motherfucking performance on the guitar on Hard to Explain

1034
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: is one of the most mind blowing performances I've ever

1035
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: heard on that fucking instrument.

1036
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 4: It is incredible. Bro, for sure, I love that fucking album.

1037
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 3: All Right, that's all the time we got. We will

1038
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 3: be back immediately, possibly today, possibly tomorrow with our Love

1039
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 3: is Blind finale recap. Very excited to check that out

1040
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: and discuss it with the Fella's a lot of good

1041
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 3: reaction to the uh the Minakis recap episode. I love it.

1042
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 3: Where you're for music, basketball and Love is Blind? That's

1043
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 3: the genus. Peanut Butter and Kelly Argument A real mixed

1044
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 3: bag over here. We'll talk to y'all soon. Bye bye

1045
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: The Volume