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Speaker 2: Hello ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us for

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Speaker 2: another episode of Nightcap. The Western Conference Finals got underway

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Speaker 2: and what was a very close game at the half,

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Speaker 2: the OKC Thunder run away with it in the second

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Speaker 2: half and win by twenty six one fourteen to eighty eight.

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Speaker 2: Shay was sensational again, but he got contribution from Chad Homered,

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Speaker 2: Jayla Williams, and Isaiah Hartenstein as they win one fourteen

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Speaker 2: to eighty eight. Y'all know me, I am your favorite UNC.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm at I'm at work. I mean I know exactly.

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Speaker 2: Where you are, Okay, being a regal fan matterie pro bowler,

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Speaker 2: All Pro. That's Chad oh your Cinko Johnson and joining

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Speaker 2: us tonight. It's been a while since I talked to

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Speaker 2: the gentlemen. We go back to our different days. I'll

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Speaker 2: ride first here ride shortly after me. So we go

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Speaker 2: way way back. Nick the Quick University. He's one of

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Speaker 2: the well I think ten players that have their number

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Speaker 2: retired for the University of Cincinnati. Laker Grady the All

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Speaker 2: start thirteen years in the NBA. Nick van x Well, Nick,

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Speaker 2: thanks for joining us tonight.

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Speaker 1: Eighty four with eighty four being spelled out and the

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Speaker 2: SGA in Game one thirty one points, five rebounds, nine

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Speaker 2: siss three steals, the first thirty point game of the

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Speaker 2: Western Conference Finals by Thunder player since kd In twenty

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Speaker 2: sixteen points in the paint Thunder fifty four t.

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Speaker 1: Wolves twenty nick.

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Speaker 2: As I mentioned early in the lead in, this was

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Speaker 2: a very close game at the half and in the

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Speaker 2: second half, like the Thunder stepped on the gas and

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Speaker 2: made made the Wolves.

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Speaker 1: Play for every time they turned the ball over.

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Speaker 2: They made them play the ultimate price they cast in

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Speaker 2: they laying it up.

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Speaker 1: They got fired of the making threes. What is it that?

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Speaker 1: How are the Thunder able to do this?

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Speaker 2: They like, get able to get to a gear and

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Speaker 2: seemingly other teams can't keep up with them.

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Speaker 3: I think tonight, you know, I think Minnesota played right

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Speaker 3: the free throw line pretty much the whole night, so

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Speaker 3: it was easy for Okay cees defense to play boxes

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Speaker 3: and elbowls. So anytime they had the ball up top,

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Speaker 3: you know they they they're looking at three defenders, a

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Speaker 3: And they had no driving lanes and and they didn't cut.

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Speaker 3: So anytime somebody put the ball on the ground, you know, okay,

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Speaker 3: see got active hands, they gonna get deflections, and that

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Speaker 1: So I think, you know that first game is a

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Speaker 3: You know, they got they gonna figure it out as

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Speaker 3: But Minnesota got anew the ball, and they got to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm looking at they only had two guys

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Speaker 1: Julius Randal was great again, twenty eight points.

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Speaker 2: He was nine to thirteen from the floor, five and

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Speaker 1: He had twenty eight big points.

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Speaker 2: But you got seven points from McDaniels, two points from

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Speaker 2: That leaves a lot. That leaves a lot for you

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Speaker 1: So now you're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna really need to rely heavily on your starters in

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Speaker 2: order for you to have a chance to win this game. Oh, Joe,

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Speaker 2: you looking at the Temple Wolves. I know you like

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Speaker 2: the timber Wolves, and add man, what disappoint wanted to

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Speaker 2: do most about what you saw from the OKC Thunder

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Speaker 4: Obviously from the Thunder the Wolve about the Wolve, yes, well,

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Speaker 4: first off, offensively, right, everybody at the game started off

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Speaker 4: very slow. Obviously Julis Rendo had a good first half.

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Speaker 4: But I need a man to be a little bit

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Speaker 4: more aggressive offensively. The rest of the team collectively as

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Speaker 4: a group. I'm not talking about the bench. I'm talking

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Speaker 4: about the starters. Before we even get to the bench,

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Speaker 4: I need offensively, I need them to have better movement.

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Speaker 4: You know, it seemed like everybody was very stagnant standing

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Speaker 4: in one place. I understand the picking rolls, but nothing

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Speaker 4: seemed like it was flowing smoothly, and they weren't working

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Speaker 1: Outside of that. Listen the thunder deal what they need

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Speaker 4: Defensively, they smothered them, and it seemed like every shot Nick,

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Speaker 4: I know, I'm not tripping every shot that the Wolves

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Speaker 4: tried to take. It not only was it contested, it

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Speaker 4: seemed like it was difficult, difficult for them to even

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Speaker 4: get a goddamn shot off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking at it every time they put I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at you had. Julius Randall had thirteen shot attempts.

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Speaker 1: Three of eleven.

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Speaker 2: That's not nearly enough shot attempts for your two best players,

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Speaker 2: They're definitely gonna have to change the game plan and

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Speaker 2: do something differently. Like you said, Julius Randall played really

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Speaker 2: really well tonight, but a man they'll need. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: need two or three guys to come along with Julius Randall.

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Speaker 2: If Randall's gonna continue to play this well, and I

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Speaker 2: don't see any reason why he's not, because they don't

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Speaker 1: He's too big of a boud it, he's too.

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Speaker 2: Strong, he's too five for he's hitting his three point

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Speaker 2: and when he put three point shot and when he

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Speaker 2: puts the ball on the floor, who can stop it?

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Speaker 1: But when you look at this.

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Speaker 2: When you look at this nick and you see a team,

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Speaker 2: they held them to thirty five percent from the three

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Speaker 3: Beating OKAC with those percentages, well, you're not gonna beat

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Speaker 3: Okay see with that, with that offense. That's that's Okay one.

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Speaker 3: So their offense was so predictable. Oh okay, see, just

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Speaker 3: just loaded up on them. So I'm I'm watching that game,

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Speaker 3: and they're gonna have to find a way to get

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Speaker 3: uh Anthony Edwards out of the corners more, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, And coming up and being getting down

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Speaker 3: with two guys on this side waiting up, it's not

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Speaker 3: gonna work. And they're they're they got a good enough coach,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna go watch them.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna make the adjustments and all of that.

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Speaker 3: Like with those guys getting those extra shots, with Connelly

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Speaker 3: and de Vincenzo and uh they with them getting those

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Speaker 3: it's that's not a problem because tonight they forced them

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Speaker 3: to take those shots, right, they force them because they said,

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Speaker 3: and you're not gonna beat us, and especially with you

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Speaker 3: just playing in one spot on the court, they gotta

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Speaker 3: move them around a little bit, get them in better spots.

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Speaker 3: And you I saw on the seven half or ok

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Speaker 3: So once they look at the film, coach, fence is

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Speaker 3: pretty good to make that adjustment. So Game one, you know, okay,

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Speaker 3: see hell served, but I think Minnesota will come back.

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Speaker 1: Game two, great a shore, What was your point you

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 4: All I was gonna say, like Nick said earlier, obviously

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Speaker 4: it's game one. You wanted to me really win Game

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Speaker 4: one for me obviously being a Wolves fan, and really

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Speaker 4: going for the Wolves to win. This game is probably

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Speaker 4: gonna go to seven. I hate the fact that it

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Speaker 4: did lose it. To me, it kind of puts you

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Speaker 4: behind the eight ball. But again, like when boxing the

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Speaker 4: first four rounds, what's the first thing you got to do, Nick,

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Speaker 4: You know, you feel your person out, you see what

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Speaker 4: they like to do, try to find a rhythm, try

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Speaker 4: to find a tempo, trying to find what works for

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Speaker 4: you and what doesn't.

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Speaker 1: The fact that the Wolves.

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Speaker 4: Lost it kind of it kind of it got me

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Speaker 4: a little Anti, a little upset, but I think we're

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Speaker 4: gonna be all right next time. Ant obviously thirteen shots

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Speaker 4: well enough, Julius Dranda was very efficient, and the rest

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Speaker 4: of the team collectively besides the fuck the bench, excuse

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Speaker 4: me my language, forget the bench. The starters need to

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Speaker 4: need to do what they need to do before even

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Speaker 4: worry about the bench, even though done to have a

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Speaker 4: better bench than the Wars.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you got Jewish Rama has twenty eight. The

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Speaker 2: rest of the guys that played had sixty. You're not

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Speaker 2: beating Okac with two guys in double figures. That's not

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Speaker 2: gonna happen. Points in the pain Thunder fifty four was

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Speaker 2: twenty ant Man was scoreless in the fourth quarter, and

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Speaker 2: I thought they did Look, I thought they did a

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Speaker 2: good job on shape. Shay had thirty one points, but

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Speaker 2: it took him twenty seven shots to get those knick.

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Speaker 1: So I, hey, I'm cool. I'm cool.

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Speaker 2: I'm making him work for everything that he's getting. Jaylen

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Speaker 2: william seven or eighteen I can live with that. I

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Speaker 2: can live with that. But if I'm gonna make their

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Speaker 2: need to be efficient. I need to take better care

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Speaker 2: can defend you. Got Jaylen Williams can defend you. Bring

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Speaker 2: in Carson Wallace that can defend you. Bring in Wiggins

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Speaker 1: Hill in a hurry. Because if you don't, they're gonna

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Speaker 2: You're gonna stay around the three point line and then

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Speaker 2: ay again, fifty one threes. That's not the Timberwolves game.

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Speaker 4: I have another thing, all right, are either one of

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 3: He get he get that day off themorrow, so whenever

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Speaker 3: they play again, I think he'd be fine. Bo Bunks said, Man,

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Speaker 3: they got to move their rock man, and they gotta

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Speaker 3: play faster.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if they hold Okay, see the one shot they

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Speaker 3: They got to create easier opportunities. If not, they gonna

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Speaker 2: And if that off, and you're playing five on four

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Speaker 2: because Rudy Gobert is not an option for you. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: just but but he needed to get every goudy damn rebound,

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Speaker 2: and I'll let that thing like Kurt Ramers and Kevin

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Speaker 2: Love and let's go. He had a guy played twenty

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Speaker 2: one minutes. He's seven foot two inches tall. He had

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Speaker 2: three rebounds tonight. He only had three more rebounds than me,

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Speaker 1: Got on this what I had, This is what I

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Speaker 2: Right here, he had three more rebounds than me and

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Speaker 1: So in his defense, I'll give that hell.

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Speaker 2: They missed forty one shots, he got they missed forty

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Speaker 2: So there's ninety three shots that you had a chance

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Speaker 2: or ninety ninety one three.

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Speaker 1: Damn, Nick, I.

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Speaker 3: Just gave you the best description I can what we do.

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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, you know what.

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Speaker 4: Another issue is also that for the Wolf, as you

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Speaker 4: they get much better. Yeah, so not only do the

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Speaker 4: you pay double for your turnover as well, a double

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Speaker 4: Even though they kind of smothered him in the first

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Speaker 4: thirty one, but hell, it took him two hundred shot

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Speaker 4: turnovers on the offense and capitalize on on a on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they had seventeen turnovers, but three of them came

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Speaker 2: Jue Ramdall had five McDaniels had three and ad Man

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Speaker 2: had four. Now I'm not really concerned because like Julius,

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Speaker 1: Probably be three, probably four game.

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Speaker 2: They would be nice if they kemp it the three

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Speaker 2: have turnover. Did you gonna get a cup of charging?

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Speaker 1: Uh? He gonna get it.

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Speaker 2: He gonna get a walk because you go, he forget

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Speaker 2: that it's right for them to pivot, and he gonna

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Speaker 2: we got you, bro. But Ni, you said something very interesting.

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Speaker 2: You said they need to play faster. They need to

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Speaker 2: play right in the Okay, see hands, And now they're

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Speaker 2: getting the ball out. And like you said, when they

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Speaker 2: the baby big. That's not Hartenstein, that's not chat hungery.

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Speaker 2: You got three guards at the top, you turn it over,

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Speaker 2: they get a deflection and two three dribbles at.

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Speaker 3: The rem easy basket. Easy basket, easy basket. I thought,

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Speaker 3: I thought, like you said, I thought they played. They

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Speaker 3: played right into okay see hand. This game was very big.

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Speaker 2: I said, Okay, we might have a game because I

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Speaker 2: was hoping after Game seven there used to be oh

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Speaker 2: game seven, game seven man Game seven has been being

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Speaker 2: blowouts lately, So that being said, now let's go back

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Speaker 2: there originally scheduled programming. I thought we were gonna have

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Speaker 2: a really good game, Nick, I really did. At the half,

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Speaker 1: And then with like.

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Speaker 2: Four minutes into the third quarter, okay See stepped on

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Speaker 2: the gas and what was a four point lead for

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Speaker 2: Minnesota all all of a sudden turned into a three

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Speaker 2: point lead for okay See, a seven point lead.

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Speaker 1: Next thing you know, it's twelve. Yeah. Yeah. I saw

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Speaker 1: a quick adjustment though in the second half, from the

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Speaker 3: So the whole game Minnesota's offense started out so high

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Speaker 3: was pretty much playing the same way in the first half,

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Speaker 3: but the coach coach went in made some adjustments, started

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Speaker 3: they created a little bit more space. Then guys, once

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Speaker 3: the open shots. And Minnesota they never had space all night.

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Speaker 3: It was always clogged up.

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Speaker 2: For those guys, they're gonna get first, They're gonna contest

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Speaker 2: gonna have three defenders on the court. I didn't even

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Speaker 2: When you look at him and what he does as

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Speaker 1: Nick.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember where the last time you saw boxing

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Speaker 2: of him, gone to the right. He feel touch him

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Speaker 2: and you got four guys that can define at an

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Speaker 2: which very few teams have wing defenders. Everybody, I want

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Speaker 2: guys they got? They got to Russo, they got Williams,

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Speaker 2: they got Door, they got Wallace, they got Wiggams They

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Speaker 2: I mean, they they're loaded at that that position. And

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Speaker 2: They rebounded, understand their job to the pullets. Okay, C's

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Speaker 2: gonna be a tough out and I agree with you, Nick,

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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna have to.

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Speaker 1: Look.

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Speaker 2: Chris Fincher is very good. I think he's named coach

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Speaker 1: Year m.

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Speaker 3: Oh ash as oh.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh choe, you got a cigar ash on your face?

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Speaker 1: I do yeah, your name Ojo.

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Speaker 4: Right, Hey, hey, I appreciate you, man, I appreciate you

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Speaker 4: could mess it damn makeup.

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Speaker 1: I got on fency right now too. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what that is, but you need to get it off.

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Speaker 1: But look I'm good now. Yes, So Nick, what the

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Speaker 2: Even with that adjustment, do you think the Wolves have

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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a long series and I

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Speaker 3: going to make them adjustments. Chris Fencing and the coaching staff,

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Speaker 3: see all the mistakes that they made offensively. And you know,

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Speaker 3: you you made a good point about you know, Okc's

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Speaker 3: perimeter defenders, they're wing defenders.

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Speaker 1: And what makes them even better is their good team defenders. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes this guy's can be good on ball defenders and

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Speaker 3: they can just stick to their man and not be

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Those guys not only do they defend the ball good,

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Speaker 3: But oh, Minnesota, they have enough. They have enough to

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Speaker 3: you know. So now they got to go and make

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Speaker 2: I was thinking, because the Thunder just got out of

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Speaker 2: they've been resting, they've been off damn near week. I

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Speaker 2: was like, man, they're about to come in and run

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Speaker 2: it would look like it was reversed. Those guys were

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Speaker 3: You know, I never figured that out because that's always

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Speaker 3: they're gonna be well rested. Well sometimes, motherfucker, you too,

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Speaker 1: Right can work against? So who knows how it really works,

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Speaker 3: And uh, tonight, I was expecting, okay see to come

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Speaker 3: But they did that because Minnesota didn't do anything. So

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00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 3: as they came off slow, you know, at some point, okay,

440
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 3: s was gonna pick it up. I was just like, damn,

441
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Speaker 3: okay See fans they sitting on their hands right now.

442
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,159
Speaker 1: Minnesota got to take advantage of that, and they, yes,

443
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,679
Speaker 1: they never did. But hold on, Nick, you say, you

444
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 1: say the game going going seven? Right? I think it's

445
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:34,679
Speaker 1: gonna be a long series.

446
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,400
Speaker 4: Oho, It's gonna be a long serious But I want

447
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 4: to know who you got like Minnesota that I like

448
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,919
Speaker 4: Minnesota like it was okay, okay, okay, you you know,

449
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 4: you know your business, You know your business.

450
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 1: I like Minnesota.

451
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 3: But but I'm gonna tell you this though, So all

452
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 3: four of these teams that's in the playoffs, Man, anybody

453
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 3: can win it. Anybody can win the championship. That's that's

454
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 3: the beauty of this one. So it ain't like there's

455
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 3: no clear cut faded you know, any other team you

456
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 3: get the Lakers favorite of Boston favorite, this you got

457
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 3: fotis in this thing right now that they often win it.

458
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 2: So I like that, Nick, you had a story. We

459
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 2: was talking to our camera. You said you got a

460
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Speaker 2: story to tell. You wanted to tell the story. What's

461
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 2: the story?

462
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 3: Both of y'all man, both of y'all played me like

463
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 3: I was a little peon man who show a couple

464
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 3: of years ago. Oh Joe, I don't walk up through

465
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati airport. You got your shades on you. You

466
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 3: probably couldn't see you know what I'm saying, And you

467
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 3: walking so goddamn fast.

468
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 1: I'm been like, what up? Oh Joe, you had me.

469
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 3: With and you walking, so I'm looking behind him like damn,

470
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 3: it's Ray Lewis chasing you. Was su And then you

471
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 3: had to call the saying now it was he just

472
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 3: walked through these Yeah, yeah that was me.

473
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Speaker 1: I said, I just walked right by.

474
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Speaker 4: You're like, oh okay, And I know I probably said,

475
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 4: oh I ain't No, I was probably lake from a flight.

476
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Speaker 1: See that's a funny about though. Man. That's good stuff.

477
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 1: What you man? You go away back? You treated me.

478
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,400
Speaker 1: I got like, god, you long.

479
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 4: But one you got to understand, Nick, you said, I

480
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 4: have my sunglasses on right. Then you said I was

481
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 4: walking fast. So if I got my sunglasses on and

482
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 4: I'm walking fast, that means I'm late for a goddamn

483
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 4: spirit fly.

484
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 3: You see all you're doing me on, I saw that.

485
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 3: But you did.

486
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: You did in girty too. Where we did.

487
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 3: We was in Vegas at eight at the Cedar Bar.

488
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 3: That is right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that is Hey, Hey,

489
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 3: I got I got my drink, my new drink. It

490
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 3: just came out right about three, Yes, yeah, I got

491
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,719
Speaker 3: I'm a new drink. I'm gonna run up to the room.

492
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna grab a couple of bollers, I said, okay, cool.

493
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 3: So were sitting over there smoking. You walk in. You

494
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 3: have about three bottles with you. You you're in the

495
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 3: be out cleaning room of course, you know, yeah, bought

496
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Speaker 3: have been twenty twenty two, twenty twenty one. Yeah, yeah

497
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 3: you can, twenty twenty two. Yeah, you came down at

498
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,959
Speaker 3: about three, four bottles. I'm sitting there with my guys,

499
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 3: you know, were sitting there smoking. You came in with

500
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Speaker 3: the bottles. You look dad, and then when straight to

501
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 3: the room, I'm like, damn, well, maybe he's gonna come

502
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 3: out and crant in a little glass or something.

503
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: Till about five minutes go by. You know what I'm saying.

504
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 1: I go up to the door, the goddamn dog line.

505
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Speaker 3: I'm like, I knocked on the door, then gonna brower

506
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 3: security guard. Hey, I'm trying to get a little bit

507
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 3: of that joint. He's like, nah, I ain't, ain't having

508
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 3: no guests and.

509
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: Closed the dope. Oh he closed the door, closed the door.

510
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 1: That's on me.

511
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Speaker 2: But you know what we're gonna do that I'm won't

512
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 2: get I won't get you a couple of bottles. I'm

513
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 2: gonna get your information and I'm gonna get you a

514
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 2: couple of bottles to make sure you know what the

515
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: best testing, the best tasting vessel pe Konjact on the market.

516
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: Let you see what it tastes like and you can

517
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 2: judge it for yourself.

518
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: But that's on me. That's on me. See that. See

519
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: that was bad. That was bad. That was nick I

520
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: I apologize I had I just said I'm gonna get

521
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: it from Conjact. Damn. But he told me about I

522
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: walked by him in the airport. At least I was.

523
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Speaker 4: I was going to a flight and I was late,

524
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Speaker 4: and I ain't realized it was him, because you know,

525
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 4: I'm like six five, so I ain't seen that. That's

526
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 4: that's the difference. So you did him real dirty because

527
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 4: you had security.

528
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't even got security.

529
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 2: Half the cigar eight cigar eight half security.

530
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 1: I ain't have no damn security. When you have seen Nick,

531
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: they closed the dog. Well, man, he cracked the dog.

532
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 3: I said, I'm trying to be a little right, Okay, cool,

533
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 3: God damn yeah.

534
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, oh Joe Day, you didn't have me. I

535
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: couldn't get in there for a minute.

536
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Speaker 4: I said, Man, you don't they Hey, Nick, you know

537
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 4: how it be when they get when they Hollywood.

538
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 3: Now they reached. Now that was that was all that

539
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: was under That was undiscwed it up. That was undersecwed

540
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 3: it up.

541
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Speaker 1: Man. He checked it out for the first time twenty

542
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: twenty one.

543
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 2: The twenty twenty twenty one season, the Boston Celtics will

544
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: not be in the Eastern Conference Finals. During a recent

545
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: conversation with Steve Nash on Mind the Game podcast, Lebron

546
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Speaker 2: said he thinks the Celtics got bored. It seems like

547
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: sometimes it seemed like they got bored sometimes with the

548
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to save the process.

549
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: Because I mean, ish they are who they are.

550
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: When you look at Tatum and you look at Brown,

551
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 2: this is the year year to year, and they punched

552
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 2: their ten thousand dollars. But sometimes it seems like they

553
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 2: got a little bored because of how great they are.

554
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 2: Not only do those two individuals, but as a team.

555
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: Sometimes it looked like they got bored. How you get bored?

556
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 2: They won one championship. I can see if they wont

557
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 2: like three.

558
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: They went back to back like Shaq, like Shaq and

559
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: Kobe Lakers, or like.

560
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 2: The the Bulls in the nineties, or let's just say,

561
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: let's just say, for the sake of arment Nick, they

562
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: were like the Cavaliers.

563
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Speaker 1: Eight straight finals, six straight finals. How did y'all you

564
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: get bored?

565
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,479
Speaker 3: You won one championship. I don't think they got bored.

566
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 3: I just think I think they got the ass whip.

567
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 3: I think they lost. Like I mean, you look at

568
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 3: the first two games they ever dub they are twenty. Yeah, okay,

569
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 3: you ain't getting bored. You got bored with the game

570
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: and you started you kept taking them badass threes as

571
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 3: opposed to yees, touching the paint and taking threes you

572
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 3: wanna do you want to take step back threes with

573
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 3: with the defense guard and you contest and then you

574
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 3: got the other four guys inside ready to rebound.

575
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Speaker 1: In New York, you played right into their hands.

576
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 3: They they got an assassin, you know, Jalen Bernson, fourth

577
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 3: quarter of Assassin. So they I don't think they was

578
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 3: bored with the with the series, or or they couldn't

579
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 3: have been bord winning like you said. I just think

580
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 3: they got bored during those two games. But at the

581
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 3: end of the day, they are a dub in games

582
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 3: one and two.

583
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 4: Hey, nick, I asked on two, I talked uncle and

584
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 4: Ice old Joe, and I was saying, listen, everything they

585
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 4: do is one dimensional.

586
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: Why not run plays? Why not do something else?

587
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 4: And listen they say they live, they live, and they

588
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 4: died by the three God, that's not that's how they

589
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 4: gonna be.

590
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 2: Die because, oh Joe, because if you look at it,

591
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: the Kniggs want to play all the Knicks saying, let

592
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 2: us get to the last five minutes of the game.

593
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: We believe with Brunson, who we believe is the best

594
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 2: clutch player in the NBA, we believe if we can

595
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 2: get you to the last five minutes of the ball game,

596
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: and the game is close, we can beat you. You

597
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: see the problem the Celtics have. Once those threes got

598
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: don't start falling, It's hard for them to get into

599
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 2: a set in the last five minutes of the game

600
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: because they really haven't run a whole lot of sense.

601
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: To begin with. It's three to eight, JB, is your

602
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: turn to take two? Three threes in the row? Down?

603
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: All right?

604
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 2: JT you up next? Okay, Derrick White? What you got

605
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 2: for us? Al Horford? And the thing is, it's hard

606
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 2: when you really haven't run a whole lot of offense.

607
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden, O Joe, it's like you, hey, bro,

608
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 2: let me touch the ball early now, Joe, Dame came

609
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 2: to you the whole game, four court, don't Joe what

610
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: you like? I like for the game to be over

611
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 2: because y'all been digging around the whole day and now

612
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: y'all want we to work magic. Well, that's the Celtics.

613
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: Y'all been dealing down around. Y'all taking fifty sixty threes

614
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: now in the last two three minutes of the ball game,

615
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: and you need the runner set.

616
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: You're not conditioning, you're not wired to run.

617
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: They say, you still want to run behind that three

618
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: point line in jack upper shot, and it caught up with.

619
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Speaker 1: Them, Big facts, big facts.

620
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 3: I was saying that throughout, you know, this season, like, yeah,

621
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: it's cute.

622
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: In the regular season, you can get away with it.

623
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: It's cute.

624
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: But Ocho just said, as you go deeper in the playoffs,

625
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: the teams get better. You know, you're saying, if they

626
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 3: in the first round, they go up twenty, they may

627
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 3: and they go down ten or whatever. They probably didn't

628
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: come back and still win that game. But when they

629
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 3: play against the Knicks, a team that's a grind nick,

630
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: greedy team, it's gonna be a little bit tougher.

631
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to You're gonna have to change the

632
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: way they think. That's exactly right.

633
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: And the thing is is, like you said, oh they

634
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: took the most threes, they made the most threes. Okay,

635
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: Like you said, Okay, you playing Orlando one night, you

636
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: at Miami the next night, do you come up to

637
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: the East coast? Trip you got Charlotte Atlanta. Now we're

638
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 2: in a seven game series, got two games here. You

639
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: ain't ain't nobody going nowhere. We locked in, We know

640
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: what you do. You know what we do. Okay, execute

641
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: It comes down to execute it. I honestly I hate

642
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: watching the Celtics play because all I know is they're gonna

643
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: jack up a whole bunch of bad ass threes now

644
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: if they go in, Oh, the Celtics, that's the new era,

645
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: that's the new wave. Okay, y'all keep on thinking of y'all,

646
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: Stephen Clay and you see it to get you.

647
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 3: Even in Game four in New York, you know, before

648
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 3: Jason Tatum went down, game they lost.

649
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: They was gonna lose, yes down, they was already down

650
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: five or six.

651
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we know in a close and we know

652
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: in a close ball game against the Knicks the reason

653
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: why they blew out the They blew out the Knicks

654
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: in Game three, but in game four, and we had

655
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: already saw the blueprint because they had that big leading

656
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: Game four.

657
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: We saw them have the big leading leading game one

658
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: and two.

659
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: And what happened slow walk them down still, because here's

660
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: the thing, that three point shoting is a blessing and

661
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: a curse because you can get a big lead.

662
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: Nick, you know, when you first.

663
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: Got your lead, teams got twenty twenty twenty five point leads.

664
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't no coming back. You might get one to

665
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: two comebacks a year.

666
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 2: Now with the three point shot, you go cold, and

667
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: that you up twenty. You go cold from the three,

668
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,479
Speaker 2: and you take a couple of bad threes. Now all

669
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: of a sudden they hit three in the row, get

670
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: an a one and a layup. Now twenty point leaders

671
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: down to six.

672
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: Easy.

673
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: Now you're looking like, damn, what happened. What happened is

674
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: that you kept taking bad shots. You didn't run anytime,

675
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: and you taking threes early in the shot clock, sixteen

676
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: seconds on the clock, and you letting the three go.

677
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: You get I saw them get a situation, Nick, They

678
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 2: shot a three, they missed it, got the rebound, kicked

679
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: it out again, got the rebound again, he said, night,

680
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: passed it to the corner al shot, It got to

681
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: rebound again. I said, well, damn, somebody gonna like say, oh, whoa, whoa,

682
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: let's slow this thing down. Let's get a good shot. Eight,

683
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: let's hey, one for a flat, Let's what hey, let's

684
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: run a pick and roll.

685
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 3: Let me let let me see that for him again.

686
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 3: Oh no, that's all that's.

687
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: Hey, Nick.

688
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: Now we look we pulled up to Georgia High Schools Association.

689
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: I'm one of the few guys that's ever scored fifty

690
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: points in the ball game.

691
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: I ain't telling you what. I have a triple double

692
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: I got.

693
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: I can show you the clips shot the sharp lest

694
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: Glenville High to a thirty one points nineteen rebound till

695
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: fifty two points, thirty seven thirty six.

696
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: I got it.

697
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 3: Let me let me ask you this so so your

698
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 3: your co host, right, he'd be.

699
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: Doing a lot of like he did. Who who y'all

700
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: team one on one? Who? I need to better on? Man?

701
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 4: We got NBA players can't even beat me playing you

702
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 4: talking about me playing hu? Man, tighten up, Man, tighten up.

703
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 4: This is what I do, nig I asked you to

704
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 4: play me. What's the first thing you said? Oh nah,

705
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 4: I'm good.

706
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: I'm good. What we talking about?

707
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: Man?

708
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: Like?

709
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: That's like me asking you like this is wrun some rounds. Man,

710
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 3: I'm gonna check you like more. Man, i't it's more

711
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 3: time on you. Man, I may get hurt.

712
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: Man. I ain't have time for that.

713
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: Man.

714
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to me.

715
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 4: You're gonna get hurt anywhere her anyway doing anything with

716
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 4: me competitive This is what I do. Like, I'm a

717
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 4: better basketball player and football player. I just I just

718
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,719
Speaker 4: happened to take the ride of football.

719
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: That's all that's I was a better back. I was

720
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: a better basketball player than football. There you go, Hey, I.

721
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 4: Was Nick in high school. In high school, right, you

722
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 4: know I went to I went to Miami Beast. Right, listen,

723
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 4: every time we played Nick, I was fifty six, twelve

724
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 4: and ten.

725
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: A bad night for me was probably forty eight.

726
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 3: No, no, no, if you if you say quick man,

727
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: you know what I was like, thirty two, nine and eight.

728
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: That's more of evil. Fifty six. The grapes in the

729
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: NBA ain't can do that in high school. Man, like

730
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: you saying some crazy numbers, numbers.

731
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 4: You about the greats the grace. But they wasn't me

732
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 4: in high school. That's what did that tell you? They

733
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 4: wasn't men.

734
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: Probably everybody you probably came off the bench, who came

735
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: off the bench you, I mean, it's a lot of

736
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 3: teams in the NBA right now.

737
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: Can use me coming off the bench. No, anybody can

738
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: use you.

739
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 2: Cold up the bitch, you crazy here man, comet off

740
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: the bitch and get them towels and get their jacket.

741
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: Make sure their jacket turned right side out. They don't

742
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: need you for anything. They don't need you for anything else.

743
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: Blame me, Nick, Blame me one on one. Blame me

744
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: one on one. I got it.

745
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 3: So the last time I was right, and last time

746
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 3: on hoop, I was coaching with the Atlanta Hawks, and

747
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 3: I hadn't hooped in years, man. And the only reason

748
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: I said I ain't hooping no more because I didn't

749
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: want to have no more on knee service.

750
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: So so oh yours.

751
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: So the damn so, the damn assistant coaches and you know,

752
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: managing and ship.

753
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: They they just chirping all year.

754
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: They chirped around December twenty one, December twenty two, I'm like,

755
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: you know what, we're fineling. We're finish hoope today. So

756
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: I went out there and hoped. Man, next thing, you know,

757
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 3: I told my quad and hey, yeah, And I did

758
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 3: it on the simplest move that you can ever think.

759
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: Of, just snap. I was like, oh man, I'm done.

760
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: I ain't et them. Yeah that's playing ball again, now, ain't.

761
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: I ain't a horse type. I need to be moving,

762
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 1: I need to be active.

763
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 2: He nick them muscles and tendons. They don't have the

764
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: elasticity they once had.

765
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: Come on, man, they.

766
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 2: I ain't getting out there anyway because I already got

767
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 2: both here for replaced, and I ain't trying to get

768
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 2: nothing else replaced.

769
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: No sub no sub.

770
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 3: Man. You played our sports hard. Yeah, so we have

771
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 3: surge reasons we beat We beat up to leg playing

772
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 3: they heal the still run on tracks and all that shit. Yes,

773
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 3: y'all doing that. You know what y'all got hurt.

774
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 4: Y'all know y'all got hurt because your bones weak, because

775
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 4: your nutrition was bad.

776
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: That's the point of McDonald's. Yeah, you ain't never been

777
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: a callus in your body eating all that healthy ship.

778
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: That's the problem.

779
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 2: I I did ain't healthy, not not the first three years,

780
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 2: but the last the last eleven years. Yes see, that's

781
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 2: the problem. The last eleven years is why you need

782
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: hip surgery.

783
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: First of all, I played longer than you did. I played.

784
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: Let me is how long you played? Fourteen? Well? Hold on,

785
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: I play actually thirteen because I played in Mexico and

786
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: I played in fourteen. See you still they played fourteen? Well,

787
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: I played flag football and you only played one year

788
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: of college. You's ineligible for two years.

789
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: Shit, I was a knucklehead made. Oh you got one

790
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 3: year juco. You got one year juco in one year

791
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 3: of August. I got two years of you got two years.

792
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: You got to count? Link got a count, links got

793
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: kicked out. I know, but still count. Don't count. You

794
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: didn't play. It's still count.

795
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 3: There ain't only count count something when you didn't do it.

796
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: I'm in the yearbook, but you didn't play.

797
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: I can't say I joined the Army just because I

798
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: went down to take the recruiting tests. No, I got

799
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: to be in the army. You can't. They give you

800
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: a shirt. If you get your shirt, I mean use

801
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: a part. I ain't give me no shirt. I will.

802
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: I was gonna go down to the office. I ain't.

803
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: I ain't, I ain't nothing, sign nothing. Check this out.

804
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: Let me know what you think about this. Uh uh.

805
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 2: Nick d Wade was not impressed by Jimmy Butler's performance

806
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: against the timber Woods. I think the thing with Jimmy

807
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: is I didn't like the way he approached the game.

808
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 2: I know, jim is it past first guy. I know

809
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 2: he's about getting his teammate the bar and I want

810
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: to see them shine. But it's a point where you're

811
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: getting sixty million. This ain't working. You gotta go, and

812
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 2: he won't look at the basket. I've seen this before,

813
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: and I've seen it in a heat jersey. Jimmy's too

814
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: good of a basketball player to not have his imprint

815
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: on the game. And sorry, sir, when it's time for

816
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: you to take over, you just have to. And even

817
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: if you can't do it, from the standpoint of you,

818
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: you ain't making no shots. I don't care. Shoot bad offense.

819
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: If you're not shooting good to close at the paint,

820
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: but not getting the ball up to the basket, that's

821
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 2: just bad offense. What do you think about d Wade

822
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: saying about what he saw from Jimmy Butler and the

823
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: Warriors uniform minus Steph Is there any cred as to

824
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: what d Wade is saying.

825
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 3: I agree one thousand percent, and the reason is because

826
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: I've seen them do it too much.

827
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Because yep.

828
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 3: I think Jenny is a guy, and Jenny wanted to

829
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 3: He can be up there as a scoring leader in

830
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 3: the NBA for a season if he wanted to.

831
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: But he has the mindset of he's not in the kill.

832
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 3: Mold all the time, and what d Wade and what

833
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 3: pat Riley was saying, you know, for Jimmy is like,

834
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 3: we're paying.

835
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 1: You that money to be that guy, to be twenty

836
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: five twenty seven a night, not.

837
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 3: Just in the playoffs, because if you don't want to

838
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 3: do it in the regular season, we're in the playing games. Yeah,

839
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: we got Jimmy Butler, you know, making his bread. He

840
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 3: deserves it to them the two finals. He deserves the bread.

841
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: But as a franchise, we see you as being a

842
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 3: guy who is the guy and we need you to

843
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 3: do that. And I've been saying that for years about Jimmy,

844
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 3: and I think he's a hell of a player, you know,

845
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 3: and you Donnas said it best, and.

846
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: He's a smart player.

847
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 3: Because what Jimmy did, and I've played against him, is

848
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 3: when I was coaching with the Hawks in the playoffs, Man,

849
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: this dude wasn't doing nothing but taking the ball to

850
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: the basket and making the layups. And to me, if

851
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 3: you're able to do that, it's some form of intimidation

852
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: from the other side to where they keep letting you

853
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 3: get to the goddamn basket and shoot fucking layups, like

854
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 3: you got to put a body on somebody at some point.

855
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: But he lived in the paint and was just finishing.

856
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: And I think Jimmy, if he wanted to, he can

857
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 3: do that every night, if he wanted to. So I

858
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 3: agree with what d Wade said. Well, you know I

859
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 3: love Jimmy's game.

860
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: Because you look at that.

861
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in the playing or we're the or we'll succeeed,

862
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 2: or we're way down and now we're trying to play ketchup.

863
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: We never have home court. And like you said, and

864
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 2: we've seen him do it. We see him go on

865
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: the road and do what they did to the Celtics.

866
00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 2: We saw what they did to a Billy Milwaukee. We

867
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 2: know what he's capable of doing. But at this point

868
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: in time, when we playing U sixty million, we don't

869
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: want Magic Johnson. We don't want John Stockton, we won't Michael,

870
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: we won't. We want guys that's go with Kobe. We

871
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: want you to have that mentality. Damn the rest up

872
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: because the rest of them can't make enough shots in

873
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 2: order to win the game. Their in print is not

874
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: gonna win you the game. And plus they're not the

875
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: guys making sixty million. We playing U sixty million.

876
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 4: Hey, Nick, is there at any point at a player

877
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 4: with Jimmy of Jimmy's caliber. Well, when you're making that

878
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 4: kind of money and we know what you can do

879
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 4: and you're not doing it, do you think injury comes

880
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 4: into play where you become gunshy and don't want to

881
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 4: pull a trigger and shooting because if you do lose

882
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 4: a game, it got the onus of it and lo

883
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 4: losing is because of you and you lose a little

884
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 4: bit of confidence.

885
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 3: I won't think so, man, because because Jimmy, I've seen

886
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: them plays like that and then come right back and

887
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 3: do his thing. It's it's like when step went down,

888
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 3: he had a big game in Golden State. Yeah they

889
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 3: needed him, so he he He's very capable of doing it.

890
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a mental thing, like you know,

891
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 3: I don't. I just don't want to go out here

892
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 3: and shoot twenty shots. I don't want to feel like

893
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: I'm a ball hall whatever it is. But if I

894
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 3: know Jimmy Butler's team and I'm the point guard, hey dog,

895
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 3: you gotta shoot that thing about twenty five times tonight.

896
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: You got Yes, they got to you. Notice we don't

897
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: never say that about Shae. We don't never say it.

898
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: What Shae man wasn't aggressive, but though man, she ain't

899
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: get enough shots up. Shae gonna be in the twenties. Hell,

900
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: he might be in the thirties. And that's the that's

901
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 2: the approach Jimmy needs to take. We saw Jimmy. What

902
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: was that game against Milwaukee? He had like fifty six

903
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: fifty seven. He couldn't miss, super aggressive. We watched him

904
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 2: in the in game five? Was the game five?

905
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? Game five?

906
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: We watched him in game five. He goes toe to

907
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 2: toe with Lebron everything Lebron. Lebron had a triple double.

908
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 2: You saw that one where he's leading on the table.

909
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 2: He's exhausted, but.

910
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: He getting into it. He ain't passing ish, He's shooting

911
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: the basketball. He getting in the paint. He drawing fout. Now,

912
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, why I'm cool being Robin?

913
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 4: Nah?

914
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: Bro Robin He Robbie didn't have no Robbie didn't have

915
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 2: nothing but suit. He ain't have no robbin where's Robin belt?

916
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: Robert ain't got no car, he ain't got no no

917
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 2: Robbin mobile, he ain't got no butler. Nah, hell nah,

918
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: we need you to be Batman because Superman is out,

919
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: so you need to step up. Ain't no more bad,

920
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: Ain't no more Robin. Robin a little things on his

921
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 2: eyes though, right when the last time you saw them

922
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: making series about Robin. I see all these Batman and

923
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: ain't not one of them. All the Batman that are made,

924
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 2: ain't none of them had no Robbin in it.

925
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: Okay, but he out for them?

926
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 3: Nah?

927
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: Hell nah, he need to be super Steph Curry Superman.

928
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: We need another superhero. What the comic book with Ron?

929
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: We need it.

930
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: I ain't never seen no coming book with Robin. You

931
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 3: see the coming book with just Robin, especially when Steph

932
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 3: was out.

933
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: Man out. Okay, we winn He got you.

934
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: If step for fifteen or twenty games next year and

935
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 3: you're healthy, this is why we got you so we

936
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 3: can stay in that three to sixth spot.

937
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. This is why we got

938
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: you so we can stay right there. We don't.

939
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 3: We didn't get you for if Steph goes out, now

940
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 3: we're gonna slid to the ninth and tiph spot, you

941
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So in order for to stay

942
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: at the three sixth spot or win playoff games without

943
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: Steph he gotta be Batman.

944
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: Gotta be he's got to be the super He has

945
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: to take the same approach. I mean, look, we I

946
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 2: understand that his role, his role somewhat changes on the

947
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: team with Steph, but I gotta have that mind I

948
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 2: gotta have that that same mindset.

949
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: At that day. I need to get a roll.

950
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 3: Don't change, you know what I'm saying, Cause Steph is

951
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 3: gonna be step right and Stephan is gonna need you

952
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: to take that load off. So it's okay, shot fifteen

953
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 3: and you still shoot twenty with Seth. You you don't

954
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 3: take as Jimmy Butler, he don't take bad shots, So

955
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 3: you still can get up twenty shots. And we as

956
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: a team were gonna live with that because we know

957
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 3: they're not gonna be crazy shots. You know what, I'm right,

958
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: And so even as Stephan's there, you still can do

959
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 3: your thing.

960
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: Because we look at our game, Bond your membery at

961
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: the game, Jimmy took nine shots. Jimmy had another game

962
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 2: he took eleven shots.

963
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: What the hell is that?

964
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, off the bitch. You got a pods. He's

965
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: getting up eighteen nineteen shots and you've been a commando

966
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 2: getting up twenty shots, and you've been to tell me

967
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 2: you're supposed to be the guy you making sixty million,

968
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 2: and you getting the ball up nine times, and you

969
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: know you're not getting to the free throw line. So

970
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: at least, okay, you will take nine shots, Okay, get

971
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 2: to the free throw line twenty times. Get to the

972
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: free throw line fifteen seventeen times, Okay, I can understand, now.

973
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 1: Shots. You see what a shade?

974
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 2: Shaye got up twenty seven shots and still got to

975
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: the fire line fourteen times.

976
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: You know what?

977
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 4: You know what else Nick, you know about about Jimmy?

978
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 4: He gonna take bad shots. He don't take that vast shots.

979
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 4: He's gonna always He's gonna always either facilitate to somebody

980
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 4: else or take the right shot.

981
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

982
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 4: Always, He's always been that way. Now, when he put

983
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 4: that motherfucker on the floor, oh my bad. Well, he

984
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 4: put the ball on the floor and he wanted to

985
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 4: put his head down and go to the basket. He

986
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 4: gonna do just that no matter who it is.

987
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: Just not shooting. That's why I think he was injured.

988
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: I think he was injured and he just didn't say anything.

989
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: I see it.

990
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 3: Everybody injured right now, exactly everybody. Everybody don't played the

991
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 3: ass load of games. Oh, Joe, you figure they got

992
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 3: eighty two. They don't play They was in the play

993
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 3: in tournament. Uh, the Warriors were they got playing the

994
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 3: first ride it with seven games. Yeah, everybody exhausted.

995
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: Everybody.

996
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 4: Uh.

997
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: During Sunday's Game seven between the Thunder and the Nuggets,

998
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 2: Trey Young took the X with his subtle jabbed Knicks

999
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 2: fans hot take but not ok see fans A loud

1000
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 2: of the Knick fans happy Sunday, Nick, I don't know

1001
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 2: if you played in that arena, they might have shut

1002
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: that down by the time.

1003
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: By the time, by the time you got you might

1004
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: have played there.

1005
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 3: And is it you think I ain't that old man?

1006
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on? First of all, that arena, man, damn,

1007
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 3: you came in. You came in a couple of years

1008
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 3: after me, Nick six, man, they came I got two

1009
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 3: years in that arena. Chris Paul was over there. He

1010
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 3: crossed me up about five times in one player.

1011
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 1: He was over there. Hollow home. No, Nick, they couldn't

1012
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: have been there because that ain't moving until way.

1013
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 3: They had they had the Hornets. Remember the New Orleans

1014
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 3: or somebody going over there they had to take.

1015
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, that might have been a situation now,

1016
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 2: but they played the same well they played in San Antonio.

1017
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: You talking about with.

1018
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 2: Katrina they playing Okay, see, it might have did, but

1019
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 2: I know the supersided I don't think the supersideds moved

1020
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: to Kd's second year.

1021
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: KD came in in eight, and I think they moved

1022
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: in nine. Yeah, they moved in eight. Okay.

1023
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: Kt was drafted in O seven and then they moved

1024
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: in eight, which was Russy's rookie year, because Harden came

1025
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 2: in on nine. Okay, So how loud if? I mean,

1026
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 2: look you so, I know you played in the MSG

1027
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 2: and you played in a lot of arenas. It's okay,

1028
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: see the loudest, one of the loudest. Is there any

1029
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: truth to what Trey Young was saying. Yeah, it's it's

1030
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: definitely one of the loudest. I don't know if I

1031
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: never played them in the playoffs. So that's that a

1032
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 2: bit okay different. Okay, when you talk about NBA arenas.

1033
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 3: Like that gives you a college fear, yes, And most

1034
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 3: of the time college arenas are more loud and more fronk.

1035
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, mohike, And okay, see gives

1036
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 3: you that that that college atmosphere and they get up

1037
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: and they cheer. They got their little chance and everything.

1038
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 3: So okay, see, definitely is is consistently loud. You know

1039
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. There's a lot of arenas where a

1040
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 3: team can stink and it ain't as loud. They only

1041
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 3: get loud when that team is winning. They got a

1042
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 3: good run. But okayc is consistently loud and.

1043
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 2: Plus like there's nothing else going on in ok see

1044
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 2: what you're gonna see in ok See? You ain't finishy. No,

1045
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: you're not finishing no NFL game. You're not finishing no

1046
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 2: NLB MLB game. You're not fintashy hockey. And it ain't

1047
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 2: football season. So you got a long wigh out time

1048
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: to wait to go see the old the Sooners or

1049
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: the Cowboys.

1050
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: So now what so that all you got? And a

1051
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: lot of times it's kind of like Green Bay, what

1052
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 1: what you going to do? Hey, don't do that, won't

1053
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: do that? What else he gonna don't do that? I

1054
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: won't do that? La you know the Laker?

1055
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: Mean look you got I mean you got all everything

1056
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 2: going on. You got the Clippers. You know they ain't

1057
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 2: making no noise. You know they ain't doing nothing. But

1058
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: you got the Kings, you got, you got the Dodgers.

1059
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 2: I mean you got you know, you got Benn's beat,

1060
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 2: you got Sambo, you got, you got Malibu. Man, you

1061
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 2: got a respect and how and the people that buy

1062
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 2: the stuff, like it's not like like MSG. You look

1063
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 2: at those guys man, h h Tracy Uh, Tracy Morgan

1064
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: going crazy, Spike going crazy? Uh?

1065
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 3: Uh?

1066
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: Was it Ben? Ben Steeler? Ben Steeler? You see those

1067
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: those slams are going crazy. Ain't like that. Ain't like that.

1068
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: L A.

1069
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 2: I come here, I get it. Crump, I get crumb,

1070
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 2: you know, I get I get crumped. They ain't get

1071
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 2: into the game halftime in the l A. Miami, How

1072
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: I said, Miami. You know they don't get that to

1073
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: the third quarter?

1074
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, oh.

1075
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 3: Wait, and don't be losing. They gonna leave. They're gonna

1076
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 3: leave early. Well you saw what happened when they when

1077
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 3: Ray hit that shot. Everybody tried to come back, try

1078
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 3: to come back to they all know, lock the door

1079
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 3: on people trying to get back in.

1080
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1081
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: But when you when you when you think about it,

1082
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: so because you hear it, like, okay, role players play

1083
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: better at home. Uh, the crowd's gonna get you into it.

1084
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: How important is it to keep the crowd at bay

1085
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 2: when you're on the road in a playoff series?

1086
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:48,959
Speaker 1: Nick, It's huge, It's huge.

1087
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 3: And I thought Minnesota did a great job in the

1088
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 3: first half because that's one of the things I was

1089
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 3: paying attention to, is they ain't letting the crowd affect

1090
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 3: the game. But you know, once that's that second half

1091
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 3: and they made that first runner, you, Curty North knew

1092
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 3: it was gonna be downhill, be just because of the offense.

1093
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 3: The offense was just so stagnant and we know, okay,

1094
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 3: see you know they get them steals and deflections and

1095
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: the easy, easy fast break points, get the crowd going,

1096
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 3: it's gonna be tough, man. So anytime you can keep

1097
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: the crowd chilling to where they now a factor, that's

1098
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 3: gonna be big for the road team.

1099
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: Shaq added fuel to the NBA draft lotted lottery conspiracy theories.

1100
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 2: He shared the deep tails of a conversation between himself

1101
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: and then commissioner David Stern that occurred three months before

1102
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety two drafts. Stern says to me, Hey,

1103
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: can't wait for you to come to the NBA. Then

1104
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 2: he pulled me off to the side. You want to

1105
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 2: play where's cold or where it's hot?

1106
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: He asked me that. Yeah, he did. He asked me that,

1107
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: and I was like hot. He smiled and I smiled.

1108
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: Shaq ultimately got his wish when Orlando won that year's lottery,

1109
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 2: with Charlotte and Minnesota getting the second and third picks, respectively.

1110
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: You hear a lot of conspiracy theories, and there are

1111
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 2: a lot of situations that can make these senses sound

1112
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 2: good and sound true. It's very interesting how it's all

1113
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: played out, Nick, is the NBA Draft lottery rig.

1114
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 3: So we just talked about this on my pod Quick

1115
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 3: to the Point, Nick, that's a part click to the point,

1116
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 3: check it out of you team. But we just talked

1117
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 3: about this because I thought in the past it seemed

1118
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 3: a little fishy, you know what I'm saying. But this one,

1119
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 3: this one, I can't say so because you want to

1120
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 3: help a situation to where you think that player is

1121
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 3: going to really elevate that sid right right, And to me,

1122
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 3: Cooper flatter he would have been perfect in Utah. You

1123
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 3: can't tell me no different. He would have been perfect

1124
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 3: in Utah and Dallas, they already got a championship team.

1125
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 3: They come back healthy. They by the time anyway, February

1126
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 3: come around and they are healthy, we're gonna be talking

1127
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 3: about Dallas as a championship contending team. So with them

1128
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: getting that number one pick, and you know, Cooper Flag

1129
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 3: of course, you know, being the number one pick that

1130
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 3: everybody says, Cooper Flag may not even come in and

1131
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 3: help them right away in the playoffs. You know what

1132
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 3: I'm saying, that's a that's a real thing. He may

1133
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 3: not help them in the playoffs. And him going in Utah,

1134
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 3: in my eyes, was the ideal situation. So I can't

1135
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 3: see this from being a fix.

1136
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: That's just me. Nah, that's that's that's definitely a fix. Nick,

1137
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 1: That's definitely a fix.

1138
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 4: Got me, come on now, Just so just a coincidence

1139
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 4: they get rid of look right, and just so happened

1140
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 4: of all teams that in the larger to get the

1141
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 4: number one pick, it just so happened coincidentally it's Dallas.

1142
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, let me ask you this, it's so oddo.

1143
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Why But what's the point

1144
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: for the NBA to do that? Like, what's the point?

1145
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: I have no idea, but never know what the point is.

1146
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: I mean me, I would never know what the point is.

1147
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 4: But obviously here with a Luca and all of a sudden,

1148
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 4: you have nothing left, you got you got ads, gonna

1149
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 4: be by yourself, Katie, I mean not Katie. Kyrie's coming

1150
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 4: back at some point when he gets a little better

1151
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 4: off as a c l Then there's there's nothing.

1152
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: There's there's nothing else. Yeah, there's you see. Everybody I'll

1153
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: talk to about it like they don't have a real

1154
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: like the reason for we don't know the reason. We

1155
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: don't know the reason for it.

1156
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 3: We just know it makes no sense and it's too

1157
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 3: And you don't say something like, well, they gave up

1158
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 3: Luca to the Lakers. Now the Lakers, we gave them

1159
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 3: another future player, you know, after Lebron Leeds, and now

1160
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 3: we're going to do this favor for you guys. I

1161
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 3: don't see that, you know what I'm saying, because they

1162
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 3: are already a championship team if they come back healthy.

1163
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 3: So that's that's just my thinking, like our thought before

1164
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 3: the David Robinson san Antonio, Yeah, Tim Duncan San Antonio.

1165
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 3: You know there's Cleveland Lebron Like I've thought some before,

1166
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 3: but this one you couldn't. You couldn't tell me that

1167
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 3: the number one picked one going to Utah and Cooper

1168
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 3: Flya's gonna be in Utah next year just because ye people.

1169
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 2: People feel the same thing with Zion Zion going to

1170
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: New Orleans the same year they lost a d Well.

1171
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 2: Everybody swore if they don't think anything else was rigged

1172
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 2: in eighty five, the first year they had the lottery

1173
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 2: and Patrick Ewing going to the Knicks, they swear that

1174
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 2: was red. Now now now see that album, you can

1175
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 2: you can say like New York, big media market, we

1176
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: need a big time player, you know what I'm saying.

1177
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: Like they have a.

1178
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 3: Reason to say that for that one, right, ok ain't

1179
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,439
Speaker 3: no reason? Yes, So I can't rolle with you, oh Joe.

1180
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: Now I know, I know you can't rolle with me.

1181
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 4: To me and just just you know, if if it's smoked,

1182
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 4: is a fire somewhere and when they when it comes

1183
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 4: to that one, I could be wrong, but it just

1184
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 4: is too close.

1185
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: It's too close, okay.

1186
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 3: Uh.

1187
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 2: Kendrick Perkins called out Donovan Mitchell saying, Hey, Donovan and

1188
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell led team has never been to the conference finals.

1189
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell, Donovan Mitchell, you got a coach fire.

1190
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: You got JB. Bickerstaff fired. This is a fact. You

1191
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 1: had no communication with that man while he was there,

1192
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: so you didn't like him. Right. As soon as he

1193
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 1: got fired, you signed a contract extension, right, you extended

1194
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: with the Chaws. Nick.

1195
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 3: Is there any truth to what Big Perkins said? I

1196
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: think Big Perk, you know, is entitled to his opinion,

1197
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And uh, I'll say a

1198
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 3: little truth to that. But here's my thinking on that.

1199
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 3: When you get rid of JD.

1200
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: Bickerstaff, you substituted a defensive, gritty you know what I'm saying,

1201
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: We gonna come at you kind of a coach, you

1202
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

1203
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 3: That took Cleveland from where they were nothing and started

1204
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 3: building that thing up to Yes, they got an identity, right.

1205
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: And Kenny Akerson is a great coach. I worked with

1206
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: him in Atlanta.

1207
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 3: He's a great coach, great with the x's and o's.

1208
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 3: But he's more of an offensive minded coach, right, Yeah,

1209
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 3: he's he's more of a he's more of a laid back.

1210
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 3: You can see his demeanor on the sideline. He's more

1211
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 3: of a laid back players kind of a coach. Well,

1212
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 3: James be gonna be gonna pay no hats in the meetings,

1213
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. We're still gonna do defensive

1214
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 3: slides in practice, you know what I'm saying.

1215
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: So he created an identity that to me, I think

1216
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: they lost.

1217
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 2: I think they won a more offense and they lost

1218
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 2: their grit, they griminess, and they lost to a team

1219
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 2: in Indiana who I thought was gonna beat him anyway

1220
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 2: because of the way they played. But Garland set out

1221
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,959
Speaker 2: a game. Hunter sat out a game.

1222
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 3: Uh, the big guy set out a game like I

1223
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 3: don't think they sit out there those games if they

1224
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 3: got that greediness still in them with a coaching like that,

1225
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

1226
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: So it's some true to what purpose saying.

1227
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna I'm not gonna come at my

1228
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 3: man like that, because I think he bought his butt up,

1229
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

1230
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: And sometimes you need some help, you need some help.

1231
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 3: But I think they substituted offense for defense, and they

1232
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 3: lost a lot of that greetiness with with coach bigger

1233
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 3: staff left.

1234
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 2: But at some point in time, Domind's gonna have to

1235
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 2: get a team to the conference finals because he's had

1236
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 2: the better team on several occasions. You win sixty sixty

1237
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 2: four games this year and you get bounced in the

1238
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 2: second round, you lose, you lose three games at home.

1239
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: We saw in Utah he had great situations up oh two,

1240
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: I mean had a team down too old the Clippers.

1241
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 2: They lose. So at some point in time, if he's

1242
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 2: a superstar, that's what we do with superstars. We put

1243
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 2: that blame. When Kadie didn't get it done, we blame

1244
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 2: kd Well. Lebron didn't get it done, we blamed Lebron.

1245
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: If if Donovan Mitchell is a superstar, you can't win

1246
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 2: sixty four games and go home, lose three games and

1247
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 2: lose three games at home. Three, Yeah, that was tough.

1248
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: That was tough.

1249
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 3: And then the way they lost game two was you

1250
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 3: know one, once they lost game two, it was over.

1251
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: When we lost game two, yeah, that just broke their spirit.

1252
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 2: He is I mean, they had they had the game

1253
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 2: in hand in game one and they lost it.

1254
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: You're like, okay, hey, one game. Hey, you go back,

1255
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: we win game two.

1256
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,479
Speaker 2: Now we go to Indiana, we get game we backed

1257
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 2: all square, and like you said, when Halliburton hit that shot.

1258
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: But nah, all right, you know.

1259
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 3: We Halliburton he's from Wisconsin, right, top player from Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1260
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 3: That's that's what we do.

1261
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: That's what we do. Hit big shots. Oh Lord, there

1262
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: we go. That's what we do. Hold you where you from?

1263
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: What we do hit the big shots for whiskey constant.

1264
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: I ain't know that.

1265
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, jeez it, okay, okay, okay, we got to talk

1266
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 3: about my path is none of that.

1267
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: We have.

1268
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 3: We have one of the greatest receivers in history. He's

1269
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 3: final Hey Man College got all Man Man? Yeah, sure, Man,

1270
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 3: my man in the Hall of Flame. His refer his

1271
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 3: numbers better than other play fifteen years Man stopped playing

1272
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: The volume