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Speaker 1: Yeah, Wrapper it up podcast.

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Speaker 2: Elliott Wilson, This is beat odd beat out.

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Speaker 1: What's up baby?

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Speaker 3: Feeling good? Elliott? How you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good?

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Speaker 3: Brother.

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Speaker 1: They can't stop us.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: You see that Burner Boy interview man that went viraled

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Speaker 4: over the place. Man, they couldn't take that, he said.

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Speaker 4: Jay Cole said it minded him of a pac Man.

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Speaker 4: It was going crazy with that man. You know what's

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Speaker 4: funny is like pocket is often used as like the

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Speaker 4: reference other rappers used to describe another rapper.

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Speaker 2: You know that? Yeah, absolutely, and then and then the

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Speaker 2: audience goes crazy every single time. It's like that divide

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Speaker 2: of like excited to buy it and then the other

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Speaker 2: eyelets pick up on it. But then then it comes

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Speaker 2: to backlash, like how dare you say this guy's pock

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Speaker 2: And Cole's just saying this, it's.

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Speaker 4: Funny how it just like becomes his own thing. They'll

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Speaker 4: find that one thing and that becomes the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I mean it's it's funny though. I mean

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Speaker 2: Burna boy, I don't know how, I don't know what

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Speaker 2: his response is like in Nigeria, if they feel the

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Speaker 2: same way, maybe we have to take that trip. Well,

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Speaker 2: there's only one way to figure this out, man, we

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Speaker 2: got to talk to Jermaine and see if he actually

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Speaker 2: said that.

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Speaker 1: There you go, right, let's call you.

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Speaker 3: Let's say hey, JAMAI call.

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Speaker 2: We did. We had a real reason we need to

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Speaker 2: talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: We don't know what's going on with this album, right, Yo?

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Speaker 2: What happened to Cole's album? If I got quiet about that,

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Speaker 2: we're supposed to get a J Cole album?

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Speaker 3: What happened to that? Man?

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Speaker 2: Well, he has been in New York. I saw him

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Speaker 2: at Electric Ladies Studios, him and the two minus. Okay,

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Speaker 2: they were riding bicycles, so I think they're working out

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Speaker 2: of there. But you caught him one. You caught him

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Speaker 2: on one of his bike rides. You called him out,

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Speaker 2: not in person. I saw it on the GRAMD, on

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Speaker 2: the app. Okay, okay, So I think we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: a J Cole album about it? End of the year, I

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Speaker 2: hope crossed my fingers and that's the fall off, right,

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Speaker 2: the fall off? So yeah, before we get the fall off,

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Speaker 2: we just want to hit how ed Jamae call say that?

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Speaker 4: He really tell Bernard Boy he's like the African Tupac?

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Speaker 4: And was that really you know what I'm saying, was

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Speaker 4: that really I love that Burna Boy press though, because

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Speaker 4: you know, obviously he's an international artist. We'll be getting

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Speaker 4: like Nigerian Dus, like all these international out.

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Speaker 3: Lists picking up on it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's great for us, what global with this one.

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Speaker 2: Like Burner Boy, he went from the African giants, so

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Speaker 2: global icon. I'm just really happy that he got the

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Speaker 2: set with us again, not the four years, so he

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Speaker 2: didn't forget about the little people.

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Speaker 1: If you get about the little people, man, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: But some people saying them numbers didn't didn't match up though,

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Speaker 4: like his album sales and stuff like hip hop. Right now, Mat,

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Speaker 4: I think it's a very like fragile state a little bit,

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Speaker 4: don't you think, b Like? I don't know, man, like

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Speaker 4: I think we need a good third or fourth quarter

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Speaker 4: fits is think strong right now?

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Speaker 3: I disagree, man.

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Speaker 2: I feel like this year has been a really good

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Speaker 2: year actually, despite the fact that we haven't had like

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Speaker 2: a blockbuster name drop an album, there's been quality material

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Speaker 2: dropping throughout the year. I just don't know if people

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Speaker 2: truly care about the music like they claim they do.

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Speaker 2: Whooh oh they sleeping? He not got us listened. He

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Speaker 2: checking it twice. So what I'm saying, you know, I

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Speaker 2: got Drake t something to say the world? Man, how

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Speaker 2: you feel me a fall the dog? You're excited me

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Speaker 2: at all the dogs?

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Speaker 3: I think it.

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Speaker 2: Drake releases always exciting, you know. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: the music will connect, you know, will match the excitement.

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Speaker 2: But you know it's always great when a blockbuster name

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Speaker 2: drops something. You know, it's like, Okay, it's new Drake.

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Speaker 2: This is where everyone's focus is on, you know, So

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what he has up his sleeve

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Speaker 2: for sure.

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Speaker 4: What do you think of him teasing everybody with the

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Speaker 4: release dates and driving everybody that's like, what do you

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Speaker 4: think we're gonna get this record?

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Speaker 2: It's like what you think? I personally don't like that.

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Speaker 2: I don't like it like teasing. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: It's like deliberate when it's ready. Actually prefer no announcements

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Speaker 2: these days when it comes to albums. I prefer like,

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Speaker 2: just you know, on a random Friday, just drop it.

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Speaker 2: You know, when it's ready, it's ready. How do you

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Speaker 3: To drop this shit? Man?

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Speaker 4: Also think, like we were saying earlier like, I think

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Speaker 4: a lot of the shift, like for our guess today

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Speaker 4: is part of that.

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Speaker 1: Like I think we got to look at the rap world.

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Speaker 4: That's truly a rap world right now, and it's a

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Speaker 4: national EXE out of.

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Speaker 2: Here making some noise.

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Speaker 4: Man, I definitely want to get such sexual see on

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Speaker 4: our platform. I'm excited about that. Get you got Santan

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Speaker 4: Davis making noise, you know what I'm saying. But I

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Speaker 4: got today Man's he's one of the most warped in

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Speaker 4: the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, gigs Man, Jiggs mad named Gigs Madam, Gigs the

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Speaker 2: Brough Gigs. You know, Gigs is the person that we've seen,

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Speaker 2: I've seen, you know, throughout the industry, especially in New

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Speaker 2: York City. It's like, yo, I know of him, but

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Speaker 2: I didn't know him like that, you know. So I'm

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Speaker 2: really happy that he sat with us during this UK

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Speaker 2: excuse me, during his American run.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Man, he loves New York City, man, he said, like,

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Speaker 4: I definitely felt like first time I went to London,

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Speaker 4: the similarities between New York and London, And he says

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Speaker 4: it's the same way for him, like when he came

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Speaker 4: to New York, he felt like, Wow, this place is

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Speaker 4: so like similar to my hometown and that connection. I

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Speaker 4: thought it was really cool to tap in him with that.

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Speaker 4: Like and you know the new album came out now

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Speaker 4: with Puffy's involved with that, you know, just like with

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Speaker 4: Burner Boy, Burner Boys involved with Rizzlo. Like it's crazy

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Speaker 4: how these guys are. Like it's a national acts still

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Speaker 4: tied to hip.

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Speaker 1: Hop, you know in so many ways.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And to me for a long time, gigs is

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Speaker 2: almost like a word of mouth kind of artists, Like

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Speaker 2: you knew the name, yeah, but never maybe you might

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Speaker 2: not necessarily attached it to the music. The Boogeyman exactly,

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Speaker 2: U K Boogieyman so well. Ko Man came, he came

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Speaker 2: had a great conversation.

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Speaker 3: You be.

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Speaker 2: I went to this album release party. Man, you touch

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Speaker 2: the streets to me? Man, I was out. I was outside, Man,

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Speaker 2: you missed me. Man, I was outside.

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Speaker 3: Man, I ever.

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Speaker 2: Heard that ship started at like two in the morning.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that shit started superlate. Man.

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Speaker 2: Tried like, I'm a father out here. What's we doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm a father.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a single dad.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: I can get my sleep.

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Speaker 4: Nah, but I had to get I had to get

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Speaker 3: I saw that.

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Speaker 4: I saw the guys from uh oh, my guy Bars

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Speaker 4: ninety five, those guys from I saw those guys out

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Speaker 4: there was taking it. But yeah, Gigs was super cool, man.

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Speaker 4: It was a great inter you. He definitely appreciated our time. Man,

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Speaker 4: we've got the big te like. I think that's how

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Speaker 4: challenge man. We might have to go make a little

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Speaker 4: London run. Like I keep saying, beat, are you ready

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Speaker 4: to make it to your passports?

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Speaker 1: Ready?

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Speaker 3: Passports? Ready?

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Speaker 2: Can't go through customs. You ain't even nowhere. You ain't

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Speaker 2: got no stance of your passport.

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Speaker 1: The funk would beat that.

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Speaker 2: That's what she's saying. I don't know what they're saying,

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Speaker 2: but listen. I need them to listen to this new

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Speaker 2: Gigs interview. All right, check it out. Gigs on the

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Speaker 2: Rap Rate All podcasts. Yeah not damn Gigs rap raight all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Rap Rate Up podcast. Elliott Wilsons, be that you

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Speaker 1: know what's up baby.

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Speaker 2: The British are coming, yo.

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Speaker 4: The British took over man here. I need to have

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Speaker 4: this man here, man. I thought we'd have to go

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Speaker 4: across the Ponner sit with this man. Were in the

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Speaker 4: States and he came and blessed us to sit down

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Speaker 4: with us. Man, legendary man, Biggs Higgs Brogs. Incredible, congratulations brother,

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Speaker 4: Zero tolerance man, Why do you have zero tolerance?

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Speaker 3: Man? What's going on? Man? You know what I'm saying. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's all right, you know, you know, growing ups, that's

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Speaker 3: where we're riting life zero. You ain't got time for

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Speaker 3: the bullshit, you know.

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Speaker 2: What I mean, that's what it represents.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's that's not the feme of the of

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Speaker 3: the project. You know what I'm saying. Where you got

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Speaker 3: like kiss when they grow up and the Jerry Green

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Speaker 3: song growing Decisions and you know what I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: the kind of vibe of the project.

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Speaker 1: No waste of time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, with some of the things that you can't tolerate.

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Speaker 3: Gigs, nonsense, dumb shit, right, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: time wasting.

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Speaker 2: It seems like that throughout the project, like it's almost

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Speaker 2: like relationship based. You're talking to women, it's just people

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Speaker 2: in general.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's last ship, right, last you know what I mean? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: What made you go that in that direction?

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Speaker 3: You think of this project. That's just where mount in life,

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Speaker 3: you know what i mean. Like I said, I'm a

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Speaker 3: grow man, you know I mean free kids. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: so it's just working kids really anything else. I ain't

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Speaker 3: really got time for that literally, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's that's what's going to come out in

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Speaker 3: the music. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Speak to that dedication because you've been putting it into

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Speaker 4: what eaight right you as Puffy touched on longevity right,

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Speaker 4: Like why you've been so dedicated to this and where

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Speaker 4: do you see your career right now?

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Speaker 3: The dedication is strength. I just love music, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I love my own music, you get

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Speaker 3: I mean, like if I want some new music, I'll

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Speaker 3: just make something. That's the truth. You know what I'm

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Speaker 3: saying That sometimes I'll be in the car, need that

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Speaker 3: new giks.

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Speaker 2: Get your own supply.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So like and dedication is easy, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like a man loves it. You got me.

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Speaker 3: It's just like just moving around like obviously I've been

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Speaker 4: But I wonder with you Gigs, like what is there

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Speaker 1: So is it is it a balance.

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Speaker 4: Of like feeling like you have to ascend to a

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Speaker 3: Just start to get the whole world listening to gigs, bro,

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Speaker 3: that's it really, yeah, you know what I'm saying, That's it.

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Speaker 3: How did you.

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Speaker 1: How did you build that?

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Speaker 4: Because even before I really knew your catalog, I knew

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Speaker 3: Just by being me? By being myself? You know what

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Speaker 3: was followers. Get me and work hard. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, I can't lose.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you do work hard. But it seems like the

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Speaker 3: You know what that was? COVID? I was COVID COVID.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even realize it was three years, you know

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. It goes by fast.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, That but then like in COVID,

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Speaker 2: Mean, but it's crazy because I see you sometimes at

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Speaker 3: No, I'm back back and forth. It's like it's that

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Speaker 2: You still like writing and recording.

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Speaker 3: Like half the project recorded here, Okay to be honest,

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Speaker 3: Oh here in New York. Yeah, yeah, got some in

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Speaker 4: You said, similar to me when I first went to

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Speaker 3: York the same place, Yeah, same place. It just feels

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Speaker 1: So you and the Dave Starlins? Was that was that

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Speaker 2: Night of the songs on the album.

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Speaker 3: That's what I just said. What I say about if

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Speaker 3: I says the starlets, I said Harbor as well, you know,

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Speaker 1: Nobody even you paint the picture even like one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite unlimited blessings, and I feel like you paint

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Speaker 1: the picture like I feel like you're in Miami, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking about when I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because you talk about Cali and talk about we

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Speaker 3: Was reflecting on it? I think? I think cause it's

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. And then I just felt blessed, you know,

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Speaker 1: Also acknowncing people are still going through the struggle too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's serious about it too, because they that painting

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Speaker 3: I'm saying that at the same time, you get me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it seems like you work well with others though,

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Speaker 2: like how you hate niggas, niggas, gigs.

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Speaker 3: I don't hate niggas. I just can't stand the dumb ones,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. He's doing that to behave right.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, black us who we don't want,

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Speaker 3: Like I said in there, fucking idiots around right, fucking

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Speaker 3: You get me, So I love niggas, but.

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Speaker 2: Then kind of double down like an incredible source with

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Speaker 2: the whole day you said, you are just more to yourself.

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Speaker 2: I don't care for who I keep friends with, Like

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Speaker 2: have you always been well?

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Speaker 3: I said, Now, I'm more careful about who I keep friends.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Now, I've always that's well,

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Speaker 3: be careful with who I keep friends, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. So yeah, man, that's that's the that's the energy,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Right?

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Speaker 2: Are your intents more up? Like when you're here in America,

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Speaker 2: Like even though you have a lot of people that

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Speaker 2: you're cool with, like a lot of the rappers and

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Speaker 2: you know, just regular people. An tends up in what

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Speaker 3: That he's around? Man, Yeah, of course, just cautious, of course. Man,

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Speaker 3: I'm always watching always.

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Speaker 4: Man, you got involved with this project, the band record,

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Speaker 4: how did that?

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Speaker 1: How did that come together?

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Speaker 3: I just needed him on that man. I just needed

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Speaker 3: that classic that classic path like the intro that the

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Speaker 3: I need that. I need that like that that holy

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Speaker 3: ghost type puff you know what I'm saying, Like you

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Speaker 3: get me, That's what I was saying to him, Like

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Speaker 3: and it's like that's what you want? Yeah, cool, cool,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And he just it was

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Speaker 3: just like it was more chilled. It was just chilling smoking.

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Speaker 3: You get me. It's just that's what it was. Your

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Speaker 3: Once you guys win a couple of years ago. I

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Speaker 3: think it was that last year It's party okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's the b TA ting when you got that BT award,

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Speaker 3: that legacy thing. Yeah, like part yeah that yeah, it

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Speaker 3: it was just cool that man, just reason more time

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Speaker 3: I explained what reason it means, and another like that,

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like you get me? Yeah, proper cool man.

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Speaker 3: So it was mad love like like yeah, anything I

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Speaker 3: Him with my music? I don't really think so. You know,

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Speaker 3: I'm not really a push my music in your face

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Speaker 3: when I was shaying him that the project is oh

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Speaker 3: ship is this what's going on? Saying b Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: that it's cold like you know what I'm saying, the

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Speaker 3: black King God. But when I showed it, mind them that,

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Speaker 3: I just knew it was gonna fuck with.

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Speaker 2: Getting him on the song is one thing, But having

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Speaker 3: Trust me, Man's grateful for the whole thing for showing

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Speaker 1: Another guy showed you bad love.

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Speaker 4: The jay z shouted you out and the guy did reconds.

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Speaker 4: I see a lot of holy gigs, like when did

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Speaker 1: And how did you take it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was that. It was that a couple of

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Speaker 3: when did you do that? Get done?

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Speaker 2: It?

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Speaker 3: Like approbably a month before us On one time you

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Speaker 2: What do you think the similarities are between you and

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Speaker 3: I don't really know, but a lot of time if

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Speaker 3: I'll see he was having his events and I'll see

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Speaker 3: him from any angle filming like you know that me

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Speaker 3: scanning up my thing Like yeah, I mean, it's the same,

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Speaker 3: that kind of ship. There's no nonsense. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You would have to ask him. But you're also cool

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Speaker 2: with Bigs too.

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Speaker 3: How you that's my guy?

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Speaker 2: How did you guys get tight?

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Speaker 3: And one time he come London with Saint John m hmm, okay,

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Speaker 3: I'll shoot one video and then they both come back

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Speaker 3: and that you get me and that reasoning and chilling

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Speaker 3: then just locked in you know what I'm saying, But

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Speaker 3: not Biggest Biggs the truth like she was my mad

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Speaker 3: is that that you can see like they're like want

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Speaker 3: the one that the young black yeah to be.

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Speaker 1: Once they recognize to show a real one, big school man.

440
00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:43,000
Speaker 3: It's my brethren.

441
00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 4: You get that Savage man twenty one Savage on here. Man,

442
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,760
Speaker 4: this guys chopping his heads off of these guest appearances.

443
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,160
Speaker 1: Man, what made you put them on the album?

444
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 3: You know that that that that that needed Savage. You

445
00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 3: that you like, this is like a s Savage team.

446
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,159
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying yet me and yeah man,

447
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,320
Speaker 3: Savage showed that to him. I said, yeah, I got

448
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 3: that mad ting Yeah me right, and he just lays

449
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 3: that quick you know what I'm saying, done it. He's

450
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 3: done it quick, bro ten to fifteen minutes knocked out.

451
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,919
Speaker 2: That's a good verse too. He said, he's got his

452
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,440
Speaker 2: green cars going straight to Brixton.

453
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 3: Savage. You take him on the tour in the town.

454
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 3: He probably can touch down. Savage, don't even need a talk.

455
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 3: My man is ready for him in London one hundred percent,

456
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 3: especially when people realize that it's from London. That's the

457
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 3: next thing. You know what I'm saying, that he's that's

458
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:48,160
Speaker 3: he's ends you know what I mean, yeat me? But yeah,

459
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 3: no service cool man, you show my mad love, yet

460
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 3: me less of the team even that there, I can

461
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,439
Speaker 3: see it was mad busy as well, running around, but

462
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 3: he still lays that thing.

463
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 2: It seems like the features on the album like are

464
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 2: selectively hand picked by you gigs like yeah, Jada Kiss, Yeah,

465
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 2: Davis twenty one Savage, Like, was that like the approach

466
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 2: when you was going into this, Like you're just not

467
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 2: getting the hot guy, like you're getting who you really

468
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:12,360
Speaker 2: fuck with?

469
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 3: Jada and Davies hot.

470
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, like that the popular guy. You

471
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 2: know they're hot, but like I'm talking.

472
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 1: About real connections.

473
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 2: He's saying, Yeah, the people that you really that you

474
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,400
Speaker 2: really like, let you listen.

475
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 3: To My things are straight music, you know what I mean? Whoever,

476
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 3: I ain't really that's not That's not how how I work, right,

477
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like even that same thing

478
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,199
Speaker 3: I said Savage with murdered this when I heard like

479
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 3: that grow grow up beat that O kiss? Could that

480
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 3: so the heart? It doesn't matter who the hot guys

481
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 3: you the hot guy might not be able to handle that,

482
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 3: right like kiss, Like you know what I'm saying, You

483
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 3: hear that person? Yeah? Yeah, then it's no This is

484
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 3: a kiss a lot. If it wasn't kiss, it would

485
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 3: have been no one. I'll just finished it right, you

486
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

487
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: It's selective in that way.

488
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 2: He's not scanning the billboard charge to find this artist.

489
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 4: It's got to be authentic. When you hear a song,

490
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 4: you're like, Okay, this person could actuate.

491
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 3: Man loves music, you know what I'm saying. And even

492
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 3: now that I could travel here, I'm just gonna it's

493
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 3: just like a playground of that rock kiss with you

494
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 3: kiss what you said, it's that like man just having

495
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 3: fun with it. Otherwise it's just there's no point, you

496
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So me, for me, it's just

497
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 3: always going to be just having even though this is

498
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 3: what we're doing now, Like like you know what I'm

499
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 3: saying that this is a legendary ship. Man's going to

500
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 3: have fun, said your TV raps baby, right, Like you

501
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 3: connected to the culture coming up?

502
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 1: What do you think it was with hip hop? Why

503
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: have pulled you?

504
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 3: Like? What was attractive to you about? I mean, that's

505
00:22:54,280 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 3: the coldest music, you know what I'm saying, The coldest man, Yeah,

506
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 3: mean and dancing right yeah?

507
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 2: Do you remember any memorable MTV raps episodes like that

508
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 2: really resonated with you when you were coming.

509
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 3: Up the episodes of the videos, well, the videos like yeah,

510
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 3: MTV rap videos like the King Black Sheep and you

511
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 3: know them kind of brand brand new being and yeah,

512
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying all that there's too many

513
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 3: right like Mary J scenario even before when there's leaders

514
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 3: of the new School. You know what I'm saying, scenario Yeah, yeah, yeah,

515
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 3: you get me a n w A. And and first

516
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 3: saw that that fucking niggas, that the niggas for that.

517
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: He said that the first time you heard the dirty version.

518
00:23:54,000 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was right. How the song goes crazy mother,

519
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't believe that madness. I remember thinking

520
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 3: about that over there. I needed that ship.

521
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: It was madness crazy motherfuck ice cube.

522
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: But you started off as a d J too, What

523
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 2: was J d J?

524
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: Super gigs a black name, let's not talk about that.

525
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: Used to be going superg the super gig. What was it?

526
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 3: Because in the streets that my name is giggler, giggling.

527
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 1: Okay, that's where gigs come from, laughing.

528
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: And that's maybe your name was.

529
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: I gotta obnatious laugh myself.

530
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 3: It could be a gig, Yellow gig, Yellow gig. So

531
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 3: long were you DJing for for years? Man in my

532
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: bedroom though? And what not? Made mad? DJ? Bro? I'm

533
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 3: just scratch doing parties. No, I didn't get to that.

534
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 3: I did like about two hood parties like with like

535
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 3: ten people in there. You know, the saying that it

536
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 3: was the mad thing for me three in the morning,

537
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 3: some hood spot. You get me that, you know what

538
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Yeah, you know, I didn't get to the.

539
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 4: Get like your album these Party Tonight album these Party

540
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 4: might be get two a M get back there quick.

541
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 3: Even for me now it's like one thing now do

542
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 3: you know, like like even like the project, like the

543
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 3: order of the the album, like it's like a like

544
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: a kind of playlist ship. It flows, like you know

545
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, That's that's DJ ship. You know what

546
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Because people will say all the way it flows,

547
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 3: just flows, But that's that from being a DJ, you

548
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 3: know how to you know what I'm saying that. And

549
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: then even like even like all the songs like you

550
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,719
Speaker 3: got pop calling like a s one Bomber club Man

551
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 3: and Davies like gigs my brother, that's like I got

552
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 3: fucking dub plates. You know what I'm saying that, you

553
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 3: get me says the whole thing is just you know

554
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 3: what I'm saying that. Then I'm in the park man's

555
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: running them tunes is going off like man busting shot,

556
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 3: Like I've just got the whole thing in one now,

557
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 3: the DJ and the rapping, it's over there off a project.

558
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 2: You also have this afrobeat moment in Hallolujah. Yeah all right, okay,

559
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: so it was all intentional, the flow of.

560
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, man, that's the thing.

561
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: What was shocking. The right ending to the album, right

562
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: closing for the album.

563
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 3: Just felt that way. And I made that before bearing

564
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 3: them tunes there, you get me that We wasn't even

565
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 3: I wasn't even going to put that on there, shocking,

566
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And I was going through

567
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 3: all the tracks like the order, and I said, rod

568
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: shucking nice and yet me little reflection type joint night.

569
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 3: You know, they want saying some good stuff, talking about

570
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 3: our people, and you know what I'm saying, right, we're

571
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 3: just trying to get home with things, and I just

572
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 3: seemed rat you get me, right.

573
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 4: So even the biggest Day one gigs fan the center

574
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 4: saying that this is your in your mind, your best project.

575
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 3: Yeah not that easy easy, Yeah, definitely going back a

576
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 3: little bit to the DJing thing, when did you transition

577
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 3: into rap? I used to dj, then the streets took over.

578
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 3: Then I won't doing nothing. You know what I'm saying.

579
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: You get me? Then then later on that be probably

580
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 3: my d is there, and then I was messing about

581
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 3: with the grime team. You get me. Then I went

582
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 3: to jail a couple of years and I came up

583
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: and it was a rap. You know what I'm saying.

584
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 4: Why were you so determined to come out of jail

585
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 4: to get things back and course and get back to

586
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 4: the music and get things back to where you need

587
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 4: to be.

588
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I just I'll just say when

589
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 3: I get out, I'm just gonna take music serious. And

590
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: it weren't even like the rap thing in London. We

591
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: weren't even, we weren't even a career. You know what

592
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 3: I'm saying that you'd be embarrassed to say you rap.

593
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 3: You know that if man says, oh what do you

594
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: do now? Just just this little music, you're not even

595
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 3: saying like because it weren't even, It wasn't there weren't

596
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: even no success from you know what I'm saying, like,

597
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 3: yeah me, but I just knew that min could make

598
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: it happen. That's it really because I've seen it over

599
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 3: here in it yeh me, So why can't we do it?

600
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 3: And here we are? You know?

601
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: I mean and while you were locked up, you were

602
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: influenced by fifty cent those mixtapes.

603
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: Right, yeah them times, yeah, that them that was free.

604
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,719
Speaker 3: It was all fifty them g and the tapes and

605
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: that yeh me, yeah, get them tunes that get shut

606
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: the I remember I went to one jail and we

607
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 3: couldn't have music for long, not for long, we could

608
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: have music at all. I was in there for like

609
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 3: three months and I I was going crazy, no music,

610
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: you get me. I remember I heard one fifty remember

611
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 3: that for year on the radio. One that like half

612
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 3: of it. I said, I got to get so, I

613
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: got to get the fun out of this jo. Remember

614
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 3: we moved, we got a transfer, moved to the next

615
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 3: yold and I hit up. But because I was as

616
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 3: soon as I got in the jail, I heard some

617
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: youute playing some who kid tape that was all them

618
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: get shut the I'm like, oh ship is that what

619
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,239
Speaker 3: is that what I've been missing? Like you get me?

620
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: And that's the I hit Buck straight. I said, Buck fam,

621
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 3: just send me everything I need me mad CDs. I

622
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 3: remember that was that was that time like g Unit

623
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 3: and everyone that had some new young buck I remember

624
00:29:54,600 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 3: dip set j R. Raw I was cold then and

625
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: then bust I had the m dollars you obviously fifty back.

626
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 3: Everyone had the young punchlines and you know what I'm saying,

627
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 3: Cassidy then Swiss and you get me. Yeah, it was

628
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 3: that time was ringing ringing. Yeah.

629
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: So and where you're coming from too, You're coming from

630
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: a peck him south east London. It seems like they's

631
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: soaking in the water right there because you're from there.

632
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 2: You got Damns and Idris start Snowfall and John Boyeger

633
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: he's in Star Wars, Like did you know those guys

634
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: growing up too?

635
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 3: I knew Dampson's sister. His sister used to be she's

636
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: like my She used to like kind of roll with

637
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 3: the man sisters, gangster sister. I'm telling you say, on

638
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: the end, she used to be on the ends, right,

639
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: John Bag, I didn't know. I think one of my

640
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: little brothers knew him. Peckham's big still you have, Like

641
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 3: I think John Berger is a Southampton way that I was.

642
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: I was glossed on Sam Fampton might be over there

643
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: and you've got some over head and Queen's Road over

644
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: Peckham's big, big face, Like you couldn't be in Peckham

645
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: and not know someone because you just remember these these

646
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: times you're holding it. You just don't leave your section

647
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: just here and its over there. I could go over

648
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: there and Peckham and get a new tink. No, that's

649
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 3: that's yeah. I'm like ship it's a lit over this

650
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: side of is that kind? You know what I mean?

651
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?

652
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: And what about you think about the rise of like

653
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: all the other guys from the UK you got you

654
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: said Dizney Rascal was the one that kind of kicked

655
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: things off everybody.

656
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, And Dizzey's thing was that was a mad

657
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 3: thing still, yeah, was crazy the streets on lock Still.

658
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That's kind of what got spitting

659
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 3: in that dizzy. That's why I kind of started on

660
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: the grime team. You get me. He used to fuck

661
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 3: out and my little brother his name is Joe Grinder

662
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: used to spit as well, and I thought I'm getting

663
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: on this, yeah me, But then it weren't really a

664
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: grind thing for me, like you know, that was the

665
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: entry point. Yeah, I was more on the wrapting. Yeah.

666
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: But then we have like artists like Dave who's on

667
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: the project as well. Then you have like Central C

668
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: and storms, like we think about this like UK Evasion,

669
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: It's kind of happening right now.

670
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love it man, the games just everything's just

671
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 3: coming together in it, you know what I'm saying. It's

672
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: that time obviously we have to earn because like over here,

673
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 3: look fifty years. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. The

674
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: man have been grinding for years, so we have to

675
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 3: put we have to put in that work and earn,

676
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Now it's time to integrate

677
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 3: and collaborate and take over the world together. You get me.

678
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 3: That's where we're at with it, you know what I'm saying.

679
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, man, just excited more than anything and just happy.

680
00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 3: You get me.

681
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: Did you feel like it was just struggle to be

682
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 2: heard as a UK artist?

683
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. One hundred percent. But that seem

684
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 3: like anything that even in America. No, like you got

685
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: to put in that work, bro, Yeah, but it's a

686
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 3: bit harder for us, well the way over the other side,

687
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 3: and no one really cares in it you yet me, right,

688
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: We just had to like bang the door extra hard,

689
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 3: extra loud. You get me? Yeah, yeah, we're here in it.

690
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: So because for a long time, like you weren't able

691
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: to come to America, because because because of your legal situation,

692
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: Like when were you able to come over here?

693
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 3: That's that was the first time in COVID. Oh so

694
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 3: within the last yeah three I'm twenty one, twenty one.

695
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: Oh wow.

696
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, from the last time before that was twenty eleven

697
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: and ten years twenty twenty one.

698
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: A lot has changed since then.

699
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 3: I was starving together. That is that used to piss

700
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: me off the big time. What was the first time?

701
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: First time? Did you come to York first? What was

702
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: the first experience.

703
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 3: In New York? Yeah, it's in New York. Yeah, yeah,

704
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: I came to New York first? And what's she doing?

705
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 2: Holland Brooklyn?

706
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 3: Which? Bro?

707
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: Did you touch Queens?

708
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: Everyone comes to Queens because of the airport.

709
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 3: That everyone comes to Queens.

710
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: You know, we know a right you can throw the airports, buddy,

711
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: the plane.

712
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 2: Got in touch.

713
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. I came to New York first, and yeah, I was.

714
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 3: I was moving around everywhere. I was like a fucking

715
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 3: kid in it. Yeah, I'm saying, trust me, bro, I was.

716
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 3: I was here. Yeah, I felt like I just came home.

717
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 3: I swear to that, right, I swear to God that

718
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 3: man is telling me, actually, let me not push it.

719
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 3: I was happy, was happy.

720
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: Was it a hard process?

721
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 3: Hard to get here? Yeah? What it took me ten years? Bro?

722
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 2: Wow?

723
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: Some myth tinging the fucking whole load of money?

724
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: Really wow? Yeah they don't talk about that part.

725
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: Nah, Bro, that was a fucking decade. Yeah, that was hard.

726
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: That was hard of a patience or whatever.

727
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 2: Looking at the patients.

728
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 4: I think you also said somebody when you had the

729
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 4: great look on More Life with the songs with Drake,

730
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 4: you couldn't even really experience how to help elevate your career, right.

731
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: Not even now. I just just didn't get to to

732
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: witness what was going on in America being on a

733
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 3: Drake album. That was it.

734
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but now you know what I mean, how did that?

735
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: How did that come together? At that time Drake had

736
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: reached out.

737
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just the man. That's when I just dropped

738
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 3: the Landlord album and then he just hit me saying

739
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: this album is mad. Yeah, I mean, can I send

740
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 3: you sign? Can you send me something?

741
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: Send me to?

742
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, was it came to you?

743
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 2: Came first?

744
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 3: He said no long to la, no longer talk. Then

745
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 3: he sent came to a couple of weeks after that,

746
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: we're saying two on more Life. I was like, yeah,

747
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: that's good. I remember he sent the beat first, he

748
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 3: sent the beat by itself. Then that couple of hours

749
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 3: there he sent the verse quick. Yeah, I'm you know,

750
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 3: I'm not playing no games and where's your team? Like

751
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: It's one of them ones where I had to go

752
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 3: studiore the couple of the day after. I was like,

753
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 3: what you think a man is not serious? Like you

754
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. That was one of the ones.

755
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: I like, I like that.

756
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 2: But you already were popping, you know, on your side

757
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: of the town, Like, were you surprised that Drake reached

758
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 2: out to, you know, collaborate with you.

759
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: No, not really, I'm not going to lie. When when

760
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: I was making Landlord, I remember I was thinking this

761
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 3: thing is going to be the mad thing.

762
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 2: That was the shift for you.

763
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, it was. It was one of the

764
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 3: shifts in my career. There's been loads of different shifts

765
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: for Yemmy. Oh yeah. When I made that, say, yeah, man,

766
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: niggas are gonna You're gonna fuck with this head. Right,

767
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: Everything I thought, I'm not going to say, I don't

768
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: want it seemed that fucking that big headed or nothing.

769
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: But everything I was thinking is going to happen happened, Yemmy.

770
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: Off of that, all right, what are some of the

771
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: things you thought that was going to happen that did

772
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: happen for you?

773
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 3: No, that's what I'm not going to say fair enough.

774
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: But I did see you know when you guys performed

775
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: it in twenty seventeen at the Redding Festival. Yeah, and

776
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: you're dead at twenty eighteen at the Wireless like people

777
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 2: they love that drake when it comes on, but the

778
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: crowd goes crazy for your verse on kmet Man.

779
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that Tingle is mad bro Yeah mad, Yeah, No,

780
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 3: that's I don't know, man, It's just that's one of

781
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: them songs. May because fucking mad.

782
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 2: That's aectially that last line of Batman. What were you

783
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: thinking when he was creating the.

784
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 3: Vibes, the vibes that was having a having a party.

785
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 3: When it was making that song, I saw one of

786
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 3: my own resions actually posted that he was there. I

787
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 3: was like that. When we made it, everyone was stepping

788
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 3: the bringing up. I was going up like we already

789
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: knew that as a bang, it was you know what

790
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 3: I'm saying that you get me?

791
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: Is it someone in the camp that you turned to

792
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,959
Speaker 2: when you're making the music as a buck?

793
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 3: Is it? Is it?

794
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: Who do you?

795
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: The older man in the studio? It is lit, That's

796
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: how we do it.

797
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: You have to have a good environment like that.

798
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Sometimes when I when I was making this project,

799
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 3: I more wanted to be on my own a lot

800
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 3: because I was like up in the level and that

801
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, especially coming over here and

802
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 3: I came up. These men were quicker man like East. Yeah,

803
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 3: that man in and Night in seconds bro his verse fam.

804
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 3: I've worked with Theast couple of times from but Starlets

805
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 3: was the that was the banger from my man. He

806
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 3: will be rioting and he's in there in seconds and

807
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 3: he's out and then he's looking at you like what's

808
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 3: your twa and on fucking oh my god, I even

809
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 3: work that quick bro saying, so it made me up

810
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 3: the level working over here like loads. Yeah mean you

811
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 3: step your own game up one hundred percent. Yeah yeah,

812
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 3: trust me. Another person that's a big fan of GIGS

813
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 3: is the Weekend Man.

814
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: Back in like twenty sixteen, he had tweeted out like

815
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 2: whipping Excursion your songs.

816
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't really linked the Weekend like Linkedini once

817
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 3: Drake Show. Okay, yeah, and there's that year walking and

818
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: that was it, you guys are Yeah, I ain't really

819
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: linked him. Yeah, something matter that. I had a conversation that,

820
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 3: you know, I.

821
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: Mean, it seems like you met a lot of your

822
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 2: heroes already, have you like you have jay Z and

823
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 2: you know Bigs. Is there anyone else that you still

824
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: like I want to link.

825
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 3: With probably like that a doctor Dre or Cube or

826
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying back to the n w A.

827
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 3: One time I saw a Cube. I wasn't even trying

828
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 3: to bother him like that. That man at that starts

829
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: like you don't even want to to see in the room.

830
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 3: That's my yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, so

831
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 3: what about fifty you know you not of course, just

832
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: that's the that's the that's the guy from yeah me

833
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 3: yeah fifty. That that man that got me through my

834
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 3: whole jail center. You know what I'm saying, Like fifty bro, yeah,

835
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: git ship you get me that. Yeah, but I ain't

836
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 3: I chat to Yeah you're still oh yeah, yoh yeah.

837
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: Yeah you'll say one time, yeah you like linked man

838
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 3: in London and that one time get food and that.

839
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, I ain't link fifty.

840
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 2: It feels like when you come to London you got

841
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 2: to check in with gigs man. It's like you see

842
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: they say that you don't have to Yeah, that man

843
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: will sure you a good time in it. You don't

844
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 2: have to check in that. I'm not going to get

845
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: offended or I don't run on London.

846
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 3: It seems like you get me, you got to bucket.

847
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 3: I just understand, like like when you not come over

848
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 3: the things you want to see and you know what

849
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying, because obviously man's hair and so I know

850
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: if they can't they want proper food, right because girls

851
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 3: over here give us the bad reputation. Bro. Yeah the

852
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: food is nasty. They ain't even been I'm telling you, bro, anytime,

853
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: any time, I chat to things over here, they say

854
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 3: the food is nasty then in England. Ain't even been

855
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 3: to London. Nah, but I heard the food. Next I'm like, what, Yes,

856
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 3: I make sure when they come up, you know, I

857
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 3: get the chef out all that.

858
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, he's concreing stereo.

859
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're saying now banging in it.

860
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: I think also like shows like Top Boy kind of

861
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 2: give you that you Top Boy helped a lot. Yeah,

862
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 2: you made an appearance on there too, Yeah, are you

863
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: coming back for the final season.

864
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 3: I was just playing myself on that, right. I was

865
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 3: just I was supposed to be one of the characters

866
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 3: and that what happened. I can't act zero tolerance and

867
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 3: I'm just not that okay. Sometimes you just got like

868
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 3: if you're not good at sounds, just love it, bro.

869
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, it's not gonna work, right,

870
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 3: you get me. So I just said, if you want, man,

871
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: now play myself off. That's the best I can do.

872
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 4: What does actually with the music with a lot of

873
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 4: female content, like talk about the ladies and you'll be

874
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 4: real vulnerable.

875
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: You talk about horny ship, like why are you going

876
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: away with the man?

877
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 3: Me talking about being horn is vulnerable and did I

878
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: you love now?

879
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 5: I say, you don't mind going there? Like you you

880
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 5: a thorough dude. Love you women, you put your emotions

881
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 5: and let them know I love them like you know

882
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Go and let them know you got me.

883
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 5: That's you don't hesitate going there with a big.

884
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 3: Part of my life. You know what I'm saying, even the.

885
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 2: Respected respected.

886
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: I just knowing that.

887
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 5: You know a lot of rappers are scared to like

888
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 5: show that side of my mind's like, that's that's where

889
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 5: like that I'm Caribbean in it.

890
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like like half Jamaican grenadeen

891
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 3: and oh wow, you know what I'm saying that Jamaica

892
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: and take pride in their performance. You know what I'm saying. Funny,

893
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 3: it's true the classic songs that Bedroom Bully Shopper Rank.

894
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like the bedroom but he's

895
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: he's saying that he's the bedroom bully. You know facts.

896
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like that's that's man's culture. Yeah.

897
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 3: When I'm getting break her up, man, she's just holding

898
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, you here to be the bedroom.

899
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: Bully, gotta do it.

900
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 2: I gotta step up to that challenge. It seems like

901
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: a lot of the stories are there, like based off

902
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: real scenarios.

903
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 3: It was like, of course, yes, man's the truth, that's

904
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 3: what there is. Well is the creative about yourself? It's

905
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 3: an old biography of my life. Yeah, I mean no

906
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 3: specific dates sometimes a biography.

907
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, so who's the person at the end of Once

908
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: in a Blue Funny Brother?

909
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 3: No?

910
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: Is that a real, real thing, a real.

911
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: It was like a real ta silent No, it's just like,

912
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: like I said, a biography. Okay, the other things implying

913
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: there's no excuse for you not to connect with him.

914
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 3: That's what you're trying to fly, right, There's literally no excuse.

915
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: We have to we have to accept that.

916
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: They tell the whole buckets.

917
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 3: Man, you keep fro Box my bridge and my manager. Yeah,

918
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 3: so how you guys took up and like is he

919
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 3: went to school and man still Box brother is my

920
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 3: bridgmot that we was in the same year. That's my

921
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 3: Bregs brother. You know what I'm saying that, But he's

922
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 3: my manager, you get me. But even him, my little

923
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: brothers in the same year as him in school. And

924
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 3: then like his little sister, a couple of my other

925
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 3: little brothers, they was in that year as well. Themarks

926
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 3: about a couple in the same year. Yeah, yeah, so

927
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 3: that's whole family. Me.

928
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: He'd be managing from the beginning.

929
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 3: Not from the beginning, because he wasn't even the actor

930
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 3: in the film direct direct movies and and and act

931
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 3: and you know what I'm saying. That's that's more his world.

932
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 3: But he used to rappers. Well, but but just you

933
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: know what it was. It was just always doing the

934
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 3: job I had like other managers, and but Buck was

935
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 3: always there all the time. Like yeah, so it's just

936
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 3: like this man's always doing a job, like for free,

937
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 3: you might as well get paid for it, bro, Like

938
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And then that was it.

939
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 3: It was just just made it official. Like I said,

940
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 3: I always say, no, that's my brethren. You know what

941
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

942
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: It's not just business.

943
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. If it's if we

944
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: if we ain't working, its manned them. We're outside, Like.

945
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, now you are outside and back in America.

946
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: Are we going to have any tour dates?

947
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, ready I need to I need to see

948
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: America properly. That's the best way to see all of

949
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 3: America as well, like that touring, you know what I'm saying, So, yeah,

950
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 3: I'm ready for that one.

951
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: Are these certain cities that you want to hit up?

952
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: Are you anteresting?

953
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 3: I ain't never been to that New Orleans, I haven't

954
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 3: been to Texas that places like that, And I'm sure

955
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 3: there's loads of our places. Yeah that's that DC. Yeah me,

956
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 3: So you really haven't really performed here in America, not never, oh,

957
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 3: never performed there. I fucking I could just about performing

958
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 3: England in the beginning, you know what, I mean? To

959
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 3: wait for ten years for that? So like it's not nothing,

960
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 3: it's that it's cool, Like I'm patient. Oh wait, it's coming,

961
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

962
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 4: So, because when you finally hit the road and do

963
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 4: these shows like I gotta be at we gotta be

964
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 4: at the first show, of course, but you're obviously going

965
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 4: to showcase a new album dual Tolerance. But what is

966
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 4: something like let's say two or three gigs classics that.

967
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: You know your day one fans. You're going to perform the.

968
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 3: Main classic talk and the hardest with a dischedule. The

969
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 3: lockdow Dave. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Man, shows

970
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 3: already in London or like well in Europe, yeah, wherever,

971
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 3: strict wherever, it's already an hour and a half that,

972
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

973
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: So that's a challenge, right to incorporate the new music.

974
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 3: At the news, you know what I mean. But at

975
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 3: the same time, I'm hungry to perform the new music.

976
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 3: It's fresh, like what I'm saying, that's a new fresh energy,

977
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So that mand them and

978
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 3: that you know what I'm saying. Yeah, you might come out,

979
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 3: Yeah i might cut like you know what it is like, Man,

980
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm excited, But right

981
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 3: now I'm just that I'm not even in the rush

982
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 3: for real. I'm just the whole thing, you know what

983
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Like I said, I ain't like dropped the

984
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 3: project before and being able to run around in the

985
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 3: States before, you know, I'm saying that. So man, just

986
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 3: taking the whole thing, you know what i mean. Just

987
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 3: feeling blessed, Yeah, just happy, b Yeah, I can't I

988
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 3: can't lie. That's happy.

989
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: It feels good man, Like we're blessed that you took

990
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: the time. Man, I appreciate it feels legendary. Bro, thank

991
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: you so much.

992
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 2: We're not gonna wait other three years for the next time, right.

993
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 3: Good, I'm ready. I'm that project. I'm just I'm not

994
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 3: even gonna have the projects cool where it was like,

995
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 3: I can't even lie. I ain't even got started yet.

996
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 3: Trust me.

997
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: Any specific goals you want to get done before the

998
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: end of the.

999
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 3: Year, really really just just live in the moment. That's

1000
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 3: what we don't do enough the moment, you know what

1001
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 3: I mean, You just always I need to get to that.

1002
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 3: Even though that is good to want to get to

1003
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 3: you still got to live in the moment.

1004
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 4: Appreciate the moment, so you have the mind like I

1005
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 4: made this body of work that I feel very proud of,

1006
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 4: and I see how people reacting to it, like I

1007
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 4: kind of want to stay stay here for a minute, and.

1008
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 3: It's mad because it's like like here, really I'm kind

1009
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 3: of starting from scratch, you know what I'm saying that,

1010
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 3: So like now I'm kind of seeing like, like, man,

1011
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 3: this gig seems cold, is it? Yeah? You know what

1012
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 3: I'm saying, I'm actually seeing that like here when people

1013
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 3: are like, oh you got you got the new thing?

1014
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 4: Put it on cool, Like yeah, that's how I feel

1015
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 4: like I feel like I've heard of you before and

1016
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 4: now I'm really connecting to you.

1017
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: I heard you heard you was official.

1018
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 4: But like with this project, I think it's the beginning

1019
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 4: of like the real connections with people in the states

1020
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 4: of like, Okay, this is who.

1021
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 3: This guy is because before people might you might have

1022
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 3: known the name of it. You might know one song,

1023
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 3: say like I don't know, like a couple of people

1024
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 3: in this room. You might have heard it. You might

1025
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 3: have heard the gigs, but you might have km T.

1026
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 3: You might have heard talking the hardest. But there's no

1027
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 3: like connecting what everyone's heard to get you know what

1028
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 3: I'm saying. This is going to be This is the

1029
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 3: first time everyone listen at the same time, like, Okay,

1030
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 3: this is what gigs is about. Like you can you

1031
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 3: can discuss it, like is it whack?

1032
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 2: Is it?

1033
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like you get me? No

1034
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 3: one's saying this all right, it's cold, bro.

1035
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 2: Said this begin what was the record?

1036
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 3: This meaning the song? No, I just said I ain't

1037
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 3: playing that, I'm playing that we can get along if.

1038
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 2: So find out where you live.

1039
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 3: The same song.

1040
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 2: All the song, but you do you enjoy like that

1041
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 2: storty from scratch process though, I'm enjoying it, enjoying it.

1042
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I've seen it before in it. I've seen

1043
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 3: it before in England, like I've seen the ending we win.

1044
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 3: I'm saying, So, how can anytime you lose is when

1045
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 3: you give up like with anything facts? You know what

1046
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,479
Speaker 3: I'm saying that if you keep moving forward, you can't

1047
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 3: lose nothing, you know what I mean?

1048
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: Any more videos to.

1049
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 3: But you know what it was here, like I wanted to,

1050
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 3: like I wanted everyone to hear the project in its entirely.

1051
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: First with that secret.

1052
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't want to because I know, like, like

1053
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 3: my team is that my music? Is that a weird one?

1054
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 3: Like you like it or you don't? You know what

1055
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying that, So I didn't want to. Like mand

1056
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 3: was cool with that because it's like that was just

1057
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 3: like hard, like no, howk you know what I'm saying. Yeah, body,

1058
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 3: and then you've got half blessing it like you know

1059
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So that was kind of cool. Yeah, yeah,

1060
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 3: but I didn't want nothing else, like yeah, then this

1061
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,479
Speaker 3: is what I don't give my ship, my projects a chance.

1062
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 3: I needed to hear it more than one flow and

1063
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 3: then we can get to videos and ship. Yeah me

1064
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 3: to it man, Yes, sir, thank you, gigs, appreciate you, brother,

1065
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 3: and I love thanks for having me.

1066
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah on podcast, Yeah right. Rap Radars Interval presents original

1067
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 2: production from hyper House, produced by Laura Wasser, hosting producers

1068
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: Elliott Wilson and Brian b Di Miller. Permittival presents executive

1069
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 2: producers Alan Coy and Jake Kleinberg, Executive producer Paul Rosenberg.

1070
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 2: Editing is sound designed by Dylan Alexander Freeman, recording engineer

1071
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 2: Mike Urban, visual director Josh Perez, Operations lead Sarah u,

1072
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,959
Speaker 2: business development lead Cheffie Allen Swig, and marketing Lee Samara Still.

1073
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 2: Make sure to follow a rapp arator or listen on

1074
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,040
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1075
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