WEBVTT - Letitia James Under Fire - October 10th, Hour 3 0:00:00.000 --> 0:00:02.719 All right, news round up, information overload hour. There's Friday 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:05.120 toll free on numbers eight hundred and ninety four one 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:07.160 sean if you want to be a part of the program. Well, 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:11.560 the usual suspects in the state run legacy medium mob 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:16.439 and these so called experts that hate Donald Trump in 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:19.880 the legal profession rushing to the microphones to complain that 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:23.880 the mortgage fraud case against Letitia James, Oh, it's weak. 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:29.160 I'm sorry, I'm calling bs and nonsense. Prosecutors have actual 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:34.320 smoking gun documents signed by the Attorney General, and that 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:38.559 would be Letitia James proving that she was claiming her 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:42.720 primary residence would be in Norfolk, Virginia. Why because if 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:46.320 that's your primary residence, you get a more favorable interest rate. 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:49.080 So in that sense, I don't really see whether there's 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:52.600 any ambiguity here. It was done to get a lower rate. 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:55.040 There's a great irony in all of this, considering the 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:59.280 case that she brought against Donald Trump, a phony evaluation 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.600 tomorrow Lot, which it was not it at all. The 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.600 only phony valuation of mar A Lago came from her 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.240 and the judge Erduwan in that case in New York, 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.440 which was obscene you know, I urge all of you 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:14.160 if you want to know the real valuation of mar 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:16.840 A Lago, go to realtor dot com, go to Zilo 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:22.080 dot com and just peruse Palm Beach, Florida and ocean 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:26.200 front property. And for example, there's a lot, a two 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.760 acre lot for sale right now that I know of, 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:33.600 in Pombeach, Florida, for two hundred million dollars. I know, 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:38.280 it's obscene, it's crazy, it's nuts, it's absolutely beyond the pale, 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.720 but that's what it's selling for. Mar A Lago has 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:46.200 twenty two acres, it has a historic property, it is 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:50.080 in pristine condition, it has over fifty bedrooms and bathrooms. 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:54.560 It's got a club associated with it. It's a historical landmark. 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.200 It's got a beach club, it's got the Inner Coastal Club, 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:00.160 it's got all the amenities you could ever want in 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:04.080 in any lifetime, including a salon and tennis courts, and 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:04.800 you name it. 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:05.360 They've got it. 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:09.600 And anyway, so I would argue that the case against 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:14.079 James is anything but weak. And but for the jurisdiction, 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:17.040 and we'll see who the ultimate judges in this case. 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:19.440 You know, will prosecutors be able to get a non 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:24.120 biased judge and a jury in a liberal jurisdiction to 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.800 try this case. The New York Post has details on 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:30.040 the evidence against her. He bought a three bedroom, one 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:34.360 bath Norfolk, Virginia home in August of twenty twenty, paid 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.560 one hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars, most of which 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:41.040 was financed one hundred and nine thousand, six hundred dollar 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:43.760 loan that prohibited it from being used as a rental 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:48.000 investment property that allowed her to obtain favorable loan terms 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.760 not available for investment properties, they noted in the five 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:56.160 page you Know filing, saving her approximately eighteen nine hundred 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.360 and thirty three dollars over the life of the loan. 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.720 And when a Post reporter visited this home in April, 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.480 neighbors said they'd never seen James, not one time at 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:07.800 the property. Her income tax forms designated the home as 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:12.240 a rental that brought in thousands of dollars in additional income, 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:16.919 So she's contradicting herself. Property records reviewed by the Post 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:20.919 showed James granted power of attorney to her knees and 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.000 authorized the purchase of the property for which they secured 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:28.440 you Know This this mortgage anyway specific power of attorney 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.040 for the purchase of real estate. Documents claim that the 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:34.480 Virginia property was her primary residence, and this indictment puts 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.760 the timeline of the alleged bank fraud scheme from August 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:41.360 twentieth to January twenty twenty four for the purpose of 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:46.960 influencing the action of OVM Financial a Fanny may back lender. 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:50.960 Upon application for the loan, James represented and affirmed in 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:55.360 uniform residential loan applications and related documents that the property 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.640 would be used, you know, in a second case as 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.720 a secondary residence, when in fact James James knew that 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:04.880 the property was intended and used as an investment property 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:11.560 and not personal occupancy anyway. Federal Housing regulator Bill Poulti 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:15.800 actually referred James to the Justice Department and suggesting she 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:19.480 had committed crimes including wire fraud, mail fraud, bank fraud, 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:23.000 making false statements to a financial institution. By the way, 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:26.680 if convicted in that under those circumstances, she would face 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:28.479 sixty years in prison and an up to a two 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:29.360 million dollar fine. 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.039 Now I'm not sure where it's going to go. Now. 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:35.880 Predictably, the media races to her defense the media mob. Well, 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:40.560 first she races to her own defense and denies the allegations. 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:44.279 Listen, this is nothing more than a continuation of the 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:49.359 president's desperate weaponization of our justice system. He's forcing federal 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:53.640 law enforcement agencies to do his bidding, all because I 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.520 did my job as a New York State attorney general. 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.120 He's charges are baseless, baseless. 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:01.839 We'll find out then if you can turn into the 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:05.480 legacy media mob fake news CNN, you have one anchor, 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:11.400 somebody named Casey Hunt suggesting, Leticia James, mortgage fraud is something, oh, 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:12.760 everyone in America does. 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:17.320 No, everyone in America doesn't do this. Listen, Tis James. 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:19.120 And again we're still getting the details. But if it's 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.600 related to this mortgage issue, I mean, this is something 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.320 that everyone in America, or many people at least, if 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:25.880 you're lucky enough to be able to buy a house 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:29.240 in America, you deal with this, right. The federal government 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:33.800 doesn't go after all of these people for doing this. 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.400 Does that play a role here? I mean, how often 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:42.719 has there been a federal indictment for a bank fraud 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:45.400 type of situation like the one we see here? 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:49.000 Oh, pretty amazing, Eric, you want to hear about you. 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:52.000 You want to see an example of media buys, Listen 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:55.840 to fake news CNN's Aaron Burnett. Oh, if you're talking 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:59.200 about Donald Trump or a Republican or a conservative, is 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.800 she takes one pace position on mortgage fraud? You're talking 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:03.920 about Letitia James take another position. 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:04.360 Listen. 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:08.200 These New York charges residential mortgage fraud among them, one of. 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:08.880 The most serious. 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:12.520 So he's looking at one to three years minimum, eight 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:13.840 to twenty five years maximum. 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:16.920 These are huge ranges. But those would be inescapable. 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:17.120 Right. 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:18.880 There's nothing a president can do to pardon on a 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.440 state charge. James is the first Attorney General of New 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:24.039 York to be indicted by the Justice Department, and it 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:28.160 follows a nearly six month investigation into claims of mortgage fraud. Now, 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.000 that is a charge the United States Justice Department rarely 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:34.159 brings against individuals. But of course James is not an 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:37.600 ordinary individual. Trump considers her an enemy after she sued 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.400 him in twenty twenty two, accusing Trump of lying about 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:44.560 his real estate empire and inflating the value of his properties. 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:46.120 All right, joining us now? 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.720 Greg Jarrett, Fox News Legal analyst number one New York 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:53.000 Times bestselling author and Pierre de boss Is with us, 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:57.360 managing partner of Romer Debas, which by the way, specializes 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:01.080 in real estate. Welcome both of you to the forget 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:04.120 about the media hypocrisy, Greg, let's just break down the 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:07.680 facts of the cases. We know what the prosecution is 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:08.839 saying in this case. 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:13.040 Well, based purely on the paperwork that she executed, and 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:19.200 we've seen that as exhibits. You cannot claim a house, 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.720 whether it's primary or secondary, it doesn't matter. You can't 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:27.120 claim it as an occupied residence. Then go about obtaining 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:31.160 a lower, more favorable mortgage rate, then rent it out. 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:34.720 You're cheating the lender by lying about its usage. And 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:40.760 the document show that James incriminated herself. Both her mortgage 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:44.840 and her insurance application said she would occupy the house 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:48.840 at least partially, but then on i r S record 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:53.800 she admitted it was purely a rental with zero personal occupancy. Well, 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:58.680 it can't be both, and it's fraud. And you know, 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:02.160 it turns out she never was there even briefly. Now 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:05.760 her defend Sean you can see it coming because we've 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:09.560 already heard from her attorney, is that well, it was 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:15.080 all a terrible misunderstanding, a miscommunication, or a paperwork snaffoo. 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:19.520 And you know somebody else is to blame, not Letitia Well. 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.400 Under Ltisia's own stated standard in case she brought against 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:27.920 Donald Trump, she declared, it is not an excuse. The 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:34.679 borrower is always responsible, regardless of what others did. Even worse, 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:39.120 a year ago, she issued the following statement, and this 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:42.960 is going to haunt her in court. Quote. When powerful 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:45.800 people cheat to get better loans, it comes at the 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:50.000 expense of hard working people. Everyday. Americans cannot lie to 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.880 a bank to get a mortgage, and if they did, 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:56.440 our government would throw the book at them. There simply 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:58.640 cannot be different rules for different people. 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:05.959 Man, that's pretty devastating. That's check made her. She's checkmating herself. 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.160 Yeah, she really is, So that'll be used against her. 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:12.200 Pierre, this is what you do for a living, you know, 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:15.199 to listen to a fake news CNN hosts say, oh, 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.600 everyone does this. No, everyone doesn't do this. 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:21.920 You know, it's it's something that unfortunately is widespread in 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.000 throughout the country. But it doesn't make it right. Whether 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:28.520 it's widespread or allegedly everybody does this. You're right, first 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.440 of all, not everybody does this because bottom line is 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.400 it's indefensible. It's fraud. That is really what it boils 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:37.960 down to. There's no representation you can possibly have made 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.400 with truthfulness and accuracy that you will be residing in Northfolk, 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:44.360 Virginia as an elected official, or that you intended on 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:46.600 buying a second home that you never occupied and fully 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.400 rented out. Now again, like as a real estate attorney, 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.400 we represent every major lending institution in the country and 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.240 a number of consumers, and we've seen people do this, 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.959 and mortgage brokers will do this to get a competitive 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:01.200 advantage to offer better rates. It does not make it right. 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.520 And I think the moral of the story here is 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.680 that our elected officials, you know, really need to be 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.760 held to a higher standard than your average civilian. I 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:11.920 don't think there's going to be an investigation throughout the 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.360 entire country for every borrower that's ever done this, but 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:18.240 an elected official who has a higher standard to oblige 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:21.920 by that violates this. It's completely mortgage fraud. And then 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.280 the funny thing that Greg brings up is just the 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:29.120 hysterical hypocrisy of her case against President Trump and all 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.520 the statements she made which now We're coming back full 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:33.920 circle and one of the most comical measures possible. 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:35.280 All Right, quick break, welcome back. 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:38.880 Final moments with Greg Jarrett and Pierre de Bosses with us, 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.199 and then your calls on the other side this Friday, 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:45.000 eight hundred and nine to four one seawn. All Right, 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:48.120 Final moments with Greg Jarrett, Pierre de Bosses with us. 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.319 Why is it that if you're buying a home as 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:55.640 your primary residence versus an investment property or a vacation property, 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:57.960 why do you get better loan terms? 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:00.600 It's a great question. Go back to the financial crisis. 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:02.960 The best way I can highlight this. During the global 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:06.720 financial crisis, which was sparked by subprime lending, everybody who's 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.520 flipping houses. People are buying houses left and right. They're 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:13.000 buying second homes or buying rental properties. The further detached 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.120 you are from the use of the property from the 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.680 bank's underwriting perspective, the higher likelihood there is to be 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:19.439 a default on the mortgage and you throw the keys 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.800 to the bank. So primary residence, You're going to do 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:23.600 whatever you can to save your home. That's the roof 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:25.920 you put over your head. A second home, maybe you'll 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:28.559 try you'll try a little harder an investment property. If 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:32.120 it ever goes underwater, it's negative equity, it's not cash flowing. 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:33.720 You're going to throw the keys to the bank. What 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:35.840 do you have to lose? Right, there's no personal recourse 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:37.839 in most states in America, you'll throw the keys of 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:41.440 the bank. So really like it is a material you know, uh, 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:45.960 material fraud on behalf of any borrower, because it strips 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.400 away the bank's right to properly assess the risk and 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:49.200 issuing this loan. 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.480 You know what really bothers me, greg and it annoys 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:56.680 me to no end, is that Latitia James, every Democrat 0:11:56.720 --> 0:12:01.760 I've never heard any any liberal, pundent democratic politician ever 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:03.840 speak out of what I thought was one of the 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:09.280 most outrageous and egregious examples of absolute lying to the 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.440 American people. And that is that the judge in the 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.520 New York case against Donald Trump that Letitia James brought, 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.960 this was a case where she's talking about the valuation 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:21.920 of mar A Lago and alone that Donald Trump. 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:24.360 Had gotten and paid back in full. 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:29.040 Every lender was paid back completely, and the judge and 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:32.679 Letitia James were allowed to get away with valuating mar 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.800 A Lago at eighteen million dollars. It is by every 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:41.360 objective measure, based just a one minute, two minute perusal 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:45.920 of Palm Beach, you know, intercoastal ocean front property, twenty 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:49.760 two acres. It is over a billion dollars in valuation. 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:50.640 It just is. 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.160 But they were allowed to sell this and not one 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:56.880 Democrat ever objected to the phony valuation of eighteen million. 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.400 They wouldn't let Donald Trump bring in a real estate expert. 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.640 I know, Arthur and Gorin was the judge in his 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:06.840 handling in that case was such an embarrassment. And of 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:12.120 course the fact that you know, his financial judgment against 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.880 Trump that he rendered was completely tossed out and mocked 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.040 by the Higher Court, which by the way, is a 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:23.080 liberal court. I mean that would be enough. If I 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:27.600 were him to resign and disgrace I mean, I'm not 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.360 equipped to be a judge. I'd probably say to myself, 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.679 you know, think about what Letitia James did. I mean, 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:39.640 she promised her on the campaign trail that she was 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:43.280 going to abuse the powers of her office elected. Because 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:47.959 she committed herself, she preordained an outcome. She said, I'm 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:51.800 going to target one individual, Donald Trump, I haven't seen files, 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:54.720 I don't have access to the investigator. I don't care. 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:57.600 I'm going to go after him. I'm going to assume him. 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:01.440 She promised to abuse her no power, she went about 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:06.440 doing it. She brought an utterly absurd case that, of course, 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:11.240 as I say, was overturned on appeal, and there were 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:14.880 so many mistakes there you need a calculator to keep track. 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:21.520 And the eighteen million dollar valuation was just one aspect 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.160 of it. You know, Pompey sptter than I do, but 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.440 I don't think you can buy a porta potty on 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:31.440 a spit of land for eighteen million, And so that 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:34.480 I think to the court, the Higher Court, that just 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:39.360 underscores what a crooked case this was and what a 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:41.720 rogue judge. 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.520 In Goron was unbelievable. 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:45.920 I appreciate both of you. Thanks for your time and 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:49.000 your expertise. Greg Jarff Pierre, thank you both. Eight hundred 0:14:49.000 --> 0:15:04.280 and nine four one, Shawn is on number we had 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:09.280 on Jack Chitdarelli in New Jersey. In New Jersey, absolutely 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.120 for the first time that I can see in my 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:16.040 lifetime that gubernatorial races in play and some of the 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:19.360 liberal polls I don't trust them. I know we're going 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:21.600 to get some new numbers from the likes of Matt 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:25.320 Towery and Robert ka Haley next week, and I think 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.400 this will give us a better snapshot of where we 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:32.560 really are because this controversy all over the Democrats in 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:37.000 both states you have, you know, in the case of 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:42.120 what's going on Mikey Cheryl in New Jersey, I mean, 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.120 it's just getting worse by the day for her. She 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:47.360 just lost her mind in the debate last night. I 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:51.320 couldn't believe the debate with Lieutenant Governor Wins some Earl Sears, 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:53.800 who I really like a lot. We've had her on 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:57.160 the program. We like her in the Commonwealth of Virginia. 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:01.440 She pulled no punches last night in her attack against 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:07.520 their Democratic opponent, Abigail Spamberger. At one point, the debate 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:11.760 turned to the topic of transgender issues and locker rooms. 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:14.960 Listen to this exchange. 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:19.040 Focusing on a K through twelve school system. Should transgender 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.960 girls who are biological males be allowed to use girls' 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:27.320 bathrooms and play on girls sports teams? You have sixty seconds. 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.920 I'm a mother of three daughters in Virginia public schools, 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.200 and nothing is more important to me than their safety 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:39.000 and their experience in schools. I'm also a former federal 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:43.080 agent and I work to investigate crimes against children, and 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.880 so nothing is more important to me than the safety 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:49.080 of all of our children, and that work, in part, 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:54.280 has earned me the endorsement of Virginia's police Benevolent associates. 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:56.600 The Samburger is talking, please. 0:16:56.680 --> 0:17:00.400 Find issues related to what's happening in our schools in 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:04.000 each individual community. I think it's important that we have 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:11.320 parents and teachers and administrators making decisions about their individual schools, 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:14.479 not politicians. And if we are talking about the safety 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:17.760 of our children, I would ask why my opponent continues 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:21.439 to support efforts to defund public safety, an effort carried 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:22.960 on continually. 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:23.879 By this mis foundation. 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.879 Once again, the question was should transgender girls who are 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:31.400 biological males be allowed to use girls' bathrooms and play 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:34.600 on girls sports teams? In K through twelve? You have 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.120 fifteen seconds to clarify in. 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:42.240 Cases across Virginia. I think it's incumbent upon parents and 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:47.520 educators and administrators in each local community to make decisions locally. 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:48.679 That's what this is about. 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.040 There should never be ins. 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.119 We finally have her saying that, but you voted for 0:17:56.160 --> 0:18:01.200 that intruding on right now? 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:05.119 Are this is Miss Spanberger's time. Have a follow up 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:08.119 question for Miss Spanberger. Would you rescind the young and 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:12.760 administration policy requiring boys and girls to use bathrooms aligning 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:15.560 with their biological sex? You have thirty seconds. 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:19.639 My priority would be to ensure that local communities, importantly 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:24.240 parents and teachers, that's educators, are able to work together 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.920 to meet the unique needs of each school in each 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:29.679 community girls. 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:30.760 And that is important. 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.720 And I say that as a mother of three daughters 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:37.480 in Virginia public schools and as someone who used to 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.639 investigate crimes against children. The way that we keep our 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:43.560 children safe is by ensuring they are safe in schools, 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:47.280 which includes funding law enforcement and public safety. 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:52.119 But Miss Svanberger, the question was should the young Would 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:57.000 you rescind the youngin administration policy requiring boys and girls 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:00.639 to use bathrooms aligning with their biological sect You have 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:02.760 fifteen seconds to clarify that question. 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:06.639 Yes, and my answer is that in each local community, 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:10.879 decisions should be made between parents and educators and teachers 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:15.920 in each community. It shouldn't be dictated viral collegoricians. 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:21.520 Please would you rescind it answer the question. Spanberger had 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:24.680 to be asked four times and still never answered the 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:30.119 question to clarify if she endorses you know in this case, 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:35.320 you know this issue about allowing biological boys in girls' 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:39.800 locker rooms. Now, there was another exchange with span Berger 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:43.600 was asked about Jay Jones. You may remember Jones was 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:47.600 exposed as putting out these text messages wishing if I 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:49.560 had if I only had two bullets, and it was 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:52.280 Hitler and Paul Pott and the Speaker of the House 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:57.520 and the Commonwealth, well, who would do I'd shoot the 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:02.480 Speaker twice and then wish death upon his family. And 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:06.080 Jones has not dropped out of the race. And when 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:08.959 this came up, Spamberger had to be asked four times 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:14.440 to clarify if she still endorses the Democratic nominee Jones 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:18.920 for attorney general. And still after four attempts, they didn't 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:20.159 get an answer on that question. 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:21.800 Either. This is unbelievable. 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:25.199 Will you continue to endorse Jay Jones to be the 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:26.840 next Attorney General of Virginia? 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:27.440 And were you. 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.679 Aware of these text messages before they released? You have 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:30.760 thirty seconds. 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:35.320 In fact, it appears that it was those who released 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:37.639 the text messages and held them for years, so the 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:40.520 public was unaware who had knowledge of these. 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:42.479 Text messages or many of us. 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:47.160 You do the text messages the day that they came out, 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:49.600 and I denounced them as soon as I learned of 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:55.600 She announces Merian Importantly at this point, as we move forward, 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:59.800 the voters now have this information, information that was withheld 0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:04.560 for You're running, presumably for affairs reasons. But the voters 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:07.200 now have the information and it is up to voters 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:08.240 to make an. 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:10.240 Individual choice based on this information. 0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:13.280 Miss Memory. I understand what you're saying about the voters, 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:16.080 but for you yourself, do you still continue to endorse 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:16.880 j Jones? 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:18.359 Fifteen seconds? 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:18.840 Yes or no? 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:21.600 We are all running our individual races. 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:23.720 I believe my opponent has said that about I'm for 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:28.200 Lieutenant governor nominee affairs and up every person to make 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:31.160 their own decision. I am running my race to serve 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:34.080 Virginia and that is what I intend to do. 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:35.720 Thank you, missus spam Berger. 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:38.480 We just want to clarify. 0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:41.040 You know what you're saying is that as of now 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:43.800 you still endorse Jay Jones as attorney General. 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:45.880 I'm saying, as of now, it's up to every voter 0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:47.960 to make their own individual decision. 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:50.720 I am running for governor. I am accountable for the words. 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:54.080 That I say, for the acts that I take, for 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:56.440 the policies that I have put out. 0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:58.600 I mean, it's unbelievable. 0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:01.399 Lindad do you have a first of all, credit to 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:04.760 the moderators in this debate for demanding the answers. 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:08.560 But wow, it's painful to listen to. I've never I mean, 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:11.560 she said she was a federal agent. I mean, I honestly, 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.520 she sounds more like an ambulance chaser. She just is 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:17.439 like word salad. She gives Kamalaw a run for our money, 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:19.800 that's for sure. If you're looking for absolutely nothing to 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:22.480 get done, for your little girls to change with grown 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:25.000 ass men, and for her to talk to people and 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:26.119 have people and force. 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:28.200 And repeat that for grown ass men, is that what you. 0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:33.239 Grown ass men? Just disgusting? I mean it is. I 0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:36.080 just don't There's got to be some common sense. There's 0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:37.840 got to be people that go, it's like what I 0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:40.040 said to you the other day, like it's cool man, 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:43.000