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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with on our radio Pilot Pete. Season is off to

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Speaker 1: a soaring star. I'm not even kidding. This season has

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Speaker 1: itself every season, every season. And here's the thing, Pilot,

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Speaker 1: Pete is going to be on our show today. But

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Speaker 1: before we do, actually and I have an important announcement.

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Speaker 1: Actually take it away. We are doing a live show

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco this coming Saturday, January eleventh. The show

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Speaker 1: starts at eight, the doors open at seven anyone in

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Speaker 1: gonna get the nitty gre of his past season of Paradise.

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Speaker 1: But most of all, we can't wait to interact with

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Speaker 1: you guys, see your faces in person. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: really nice to you know, to see the people that

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Speaker 1: we talked to every week, so please come out. You

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Speaker 1: ticketmaster dot com. Tickets start at thirty five dollars. We

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Speaker 1: cannot wait to see you there. Actually I'd pay thirty

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Speaker 1: see you It is true though, I mean we've done

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Speaker 1: this thing um for two or years. Two years now,

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Speaker 1: we're over fifty million downloads. That's a lot of people

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Speaker 1: and Ashley and I now get to do it, and

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Speaker 1: we're coming to San Francisco to see you all there. Hey,

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Speaker 1: this episode is is a massive one every season. Um,

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Speaker 1: we get really excited for opening week of The Batchelor,

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Speaker 1: lead onto our podcast. And today we have a ton

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Speaker 1: really pointed questions I know about this season in general.

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Speaker 1: lot of process. Here's how we're gonna do this thought.

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Speaker 1: Pete is going to be coming into studio here in

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Speaker 1: It's been too long. So actually, before we break down

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Speaker 1: back ready to go. Alright, guys itan Bachelor news. About

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Speaker 1: a week or so ago, Courtney Robertson came out an

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm pronouncing it a beautiful, but

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Speaker 1: of months ago while she was at a wedding and

427
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: he was at a reunion at the same hotel. And

428
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 1: the girls don't like her because well, one, she's already

429
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: had time with Peter, and too, she cheated on the

430
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: relay race during the first group date. She went straight

431
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: when she was supposed to go like a swiggle pattern

432
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: on the twice ago, and then she ends up with

433
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,959
Speaker 1: extra time on a sunset flight with Peter, and of

434
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: course the girls are sensing how much of a heads

435
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,479
Speaker 1: up she has in this competition. I understand how they

436
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: could be a little bit jealous, but I also don't

437
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: think it's been anything that she's done. She couldn't help it.

438
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 1: She ran into him, that she had a connection with him.

439
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? I like her. I

440
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: like this date. Yeah, first off, I love the date.

441
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: I thought the flight school thing was like super creative

442
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 1: and fun and enjoyable. I think she cheated, Yes, very

443
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: clearly she cheated. However, um, it's just kind of like

444
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: one of those things where was it intentional cheating or

445
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: was she just in the moment and like peddling as

446
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: fast she could and ended up going straight instead of

447
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: around the curves And then she's done, and then nobody

448
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 1: said anything, so she just went onto the flight. Either way.

449
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: Here's how we have to look at this and hear

450
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,239
Speaker 1: how the girls in the house have to look at

451
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: it is you're still like there's other women out there,

452
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 1: You're you're not competing as much as you're pursuing time

453
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: and time is your biggest resource, and so she has

454
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: more time than other women. Instead of complaining and using

455
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 1: your time to complain and get distraught about it, say hey,

456
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: I'm still in this. Peter is still interested in me

457
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: now tonight, I'm gonna make sure to sit him down

458
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 1: and tell him Kelly did her thing whatever she was

459
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: one out of the twenty of us or whatever that

460
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 1: that got to do that. But right now with you, Peter,

461
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: I want you to know how I feel and what

462
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: I want out of this, like take advantage of your

463
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: time and not spend it getting distraught and upset because

464
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of time left. And the earliest the

465
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: earlier you get start getting like emotionally attached and upset,

466
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: the earlier it's gonna get harder and harder, which we saw.

467
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: I mean, actually, I don't remember a group date, a

468
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: first group date like this where any more tears were shed,

469
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: Like there were so many tears shed on this date.

470
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: And it makes me think that these women need need

471
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: to know, like this isn't over yet by no means

472
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: is it over? Yeah? Did you? I liked her personally

473
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: and as somebody who wasn't victimized by the time that

474
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: she had. I didn't find myself reading against her at all.

475
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't on the other women's side. I was like, hey,

476
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: other women, just yeah, like what you said, deal with it,

477
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: move on, use your time for you. Yeah, now I'm

478
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 1: with you. I mean. The part that kind of was

479
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: sad in a sense is like they kind of put

480
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: Kelly into a corner where it felt like she had

481
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: no good explanation. Hey, you cheated and you took time

482
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: with Peter what she supposed to do say, sorry, hey cheated,

483
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bow out. I'm not gonna go on this

484
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: plane ride like I don't need to because I no, like,

485
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: don't force her into being um the villain here. She

486
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: took time with the man that she's pursuing, and at

487
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: that we have to leave it there. And I think

488
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: that's where, you know, contestants, the show gets so sucked

489
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: up in the immediate and they don't look at the long,

490
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: long term and the long play here and The truth is, Hey,

491
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: they had just as good a shot with with Peter

492
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: Um as Kelly did. The next part I really want

493
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: to talk about, So Madison is one on one was terrific.

494
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 1: H Kelly's time with Peter seemed like a spark flu.

495
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: Hannah came into um at a limo and surprised us all.

496
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: Was there any other limo kind of entrances that shook

497
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: you before we end this breakdown with talking about what

498
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: happened with Hannah Brown backstage? There wasn't no one who

499
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: came out of the limo that I was like, Oh man,

500
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 1: she like she got him from the first impression. Was

501
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: there anyone for you? No? I agree. I thought I

502
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 1: thought were all high quality. I thought they were all

503
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: really good. I thought they were some funny ones. The

504
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: condoms kind of made me giggle. Um, there was like

505
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: I have one dry the girl, the Victoria. The Victoria

506
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: was like that took some like that took some guts.

507
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 1: It reminded me of like a Caitlin Bristow entrance. UM,

508
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: like there were some ones that stood out, But no,

509
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm with you, there wasn't one that I go, that's it, Like,

510
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: That's why I think this season will be fun because

511
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: there isn't necessarily a front runner except for the girl

512
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: that we're gonna talk about next, and when Peter comes

513
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: on in a bit, we're gonna ask him about it

514
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: as well. Before we talk about Hannah Brown, let's take

515
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: a break, talk about our sponsors, and we'll get back

516
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: to break down Hannah Brown before Peter comes on. Okay,

517
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: actually I have to hear thoughts. Peter is on his way.

518
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: He'll be here in a few minutes. Um, Hannah Brown

519
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: is sitting backstage now with Peter. Um, we've talked about

520
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: is it an issue or not? Here really we can

521
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: summarize everything we've talked about in this. Do you think

522
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: Peter and Hannah Brown are together today? I think there's

523
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: a fifty fifty chance that they are. Holy count But wait,

524
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: what do you think? Yeah? Actually, uh, Jessica last night

525
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: Um texted me and she goes, I have a theory.

526
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: And she doesn't watch She hasn't watched the show until

527
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: we started dating, and so she's like a two year

528
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: well two and a half year or two and a

529
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: half two season vet now at this and she goes,

530
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: I have a theory that Hannah and Peter are together,

531
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: and I think kind of the people that haven't watched

532
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: it longest will be the ones that could tell us

533
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: the most accurate truth, so that because they're not biased,

534
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: and I think Jessica might be onto something. I really

535
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: think that Hannah Brown and Peter could be together, which, again,

536
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: as we talked about, not a bad thing, shocking though

537
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: for the world. What it's crazy is that we would

538
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: have one season Hannah's that didn't end with like a

539
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: normal outcome, that we would have another season Peters that

540
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: also didn't end with the normal outcome, but all could

541
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: have just been solved. Had Hannah picked Peter, it wouldn't

542
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: be half as much fun and Warner Brothers would have

543
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,719
Speaker 1: made half as much money. They would have been so

544
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: much less of a time commitment on our part. Um Ashley,

545
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,479
Speaker 1: to summarize this whole breakdown, what are some things that

546
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: you don't know that you're most looked like, some storylines

547
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: that you're most looking forward to going into the rest

548
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: of the season. Well, I do have a theory that

549
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: I want to express once Peter comes, but it also

550
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: has to do with him ending up with Hannah. I

551
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: think the mystery that they have given us to solve

552
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: is what is the news that Chris Harrison comes to

553
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: Peter with on that finale day? And I hope that

554
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: we get a clue every week. I wonder if it'll

555
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: just be like the fence Jump, where they're going to

556
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: tease a teez a tease it and we're not going

557
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: to get like a lot of context, or are we

558
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: going to get a clue each week to help solve it.

559
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: I think you're spot on. I think this season is

560
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: gonna be very intriguing. I think this season will be

561
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: unlike anything we've seen. I do imagine that it will

562
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: be twists and turns and untraditional until the very end.

563
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: And when Peter comes on, I want to break down

564
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: kind of his thought process on on being the Bachelor

565
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: and seeing not if we can get the ending out

566
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: of him as much of it is as he sits

567
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: here today, is he glad he did it? Hey, I'd

568
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: say a great night one for Peter. I'm excited to

569
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: bring him in the studio. He's on his way, he

570
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: just arrived, he's walking in right now. So as we

571
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: get him settled, let's take another break and come back

572
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: with the man himself, Pilot Pete New Year new decade,

573
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Speaker 1: New chances for love. For the first time ever ever,

574
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Speaker 1: we're bringing the journey to you with the Bachelor Live

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Speaker 1: on stay Age. Becka Koufern and I can't wait to

576
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: hit the road as your co host of this amazing journey.

577
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: But we need your help. We can't guide our local

578
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Speaker 1: Bachelor's alone. We need the opinions of our live audience.

579
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Speaker 1: That's you. Yes, you check the website for the full list,

580
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: go to Bachelor Live on Stage dot com. But here's

581
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Speaker 1: where we're headed. The first two weeks of this amazing

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Speaker 1: and you can experience it all raw and unedited. Visit

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Speaker 1: Bachelor Live on Stage dot com to look for a

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Speaker 1: place near you. Whether you're looking for love or you

589
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Speaker 1: want to enjoy the show from your seat, It's going

590
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: to be a night to remember. This is a special

591
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Speaker 1: day f ash and as we mentioned earlier in the podcast,

592
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: one of our favorite episodes of the season is when

593
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: we bring the lead on to talk about Opening Night.

594
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: The rest of the season just picked their brains a

595
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: little bit, and today we're lucky enough to have the

596
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: man himself in Student, the man himself who brought the

597
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: highest ratings to any opening night in Bachelor history. Pilot

598
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: past so crazy. This show keeps getting bigger and bigger

599
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: does it's a beautiful show. Well, thank you for being here, Peter. Um.

600
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: We only have you for about a half an hour,

601
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: so I'm not going to like do pleasantries. I'm going

602
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: to get into the question. Okay, straight to the point,

603
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about something that you've talked about a

604
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: lot of places over the past couple of days. A

605
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: spoiler free finale, so kind of up. Yeah. So my

606
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: only deduction when hearing that is that you haven't picked

607
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: anyone yet. That's uh yeah, that's a reasonable guess. Um.

608
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: I guess the main reason why I said that was

609
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: just the so that last week for me was was

610
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: just an insane week. It was definitely the hardest week

611
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: in my life, and um, I definitely couldn't have predicted

612
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: what ended up happening. There's just no way I could

613
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: have and that's kind of what made me say that. Um, Literally,

614
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: up until the very last second, that's happening, that which

615
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: we see when Chris Harrison comes to you with possibly

616
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: life changing news. Yeah, that's that's no bs Um. Literally

617
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: until the very last day, the last second, I'm going

618
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: through stuff. And again, it was the most beautiful experience

619
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: in my life, but the hardest, and that last week

620
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: was definitely the hardest, the entire thing. Now, we normally

621
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: don't utter the words reality seve, especially when they're Bachelor

622
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: producers in the room, but I like, he hasn't figured

623
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: it out. And when I was typing my Cosmo article yesterday,

624
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: I started like puting all these little puzzle pieces together,

625
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: and while I was writing, I was like, oh my god,

626
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: I think I just spoiled the season. Yeah, I'm gonna

627
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you my theory right now briefly, and

628
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: if you guys want more detail, you can go rent.

629
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: I don't even want you to respond to it. I

630
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: want to tell the audience what your face looks like

631
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: when I say the theory. Okay, I'm very exciting, and

632
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you guys that there's no video attached to this,

633
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 1: so um, I realized that your finale, when you're supposed

634
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: to hand out your final rows, seemed to have coincided

635
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: with Hannah Brown's Dancing with Stars win. And my theory

636
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: is that Chris Harrison comes to you saying, we just

637
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: found out that Hannah won Dancing with the Stars and

638
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 1: that she felt like it was great, but you weren't

639
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: there to celebrate with her, so like she's still wanting

640
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: you back, like you're still a huge missing part of

641
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: her life. And Peter has a huge smile on his

642
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: face and he's laughing, and the mirror ball it wasn't

643
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 1: enough for her. And then, um, you find this out

644
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: and you were about to give out your final rows,

645
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: but then you realize that you couldn't give out that

646
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: rose yet until you dated Hannah in real life. So

647
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: right now or in the past month or so, you've

648
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: dated two girls in real life, and now on the

649
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: after the final rows, which there was no final rows,

650
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: you will decide who you're going to be with. This

651
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: is what I tell you. Well, I don't put this

652
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: podcast on the universe, we'll see it. I'm excited for

653
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: I want to fall along and um, I keep going

654
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: back to as well, like I kind of related to football.

655
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: If you know, you know the Super Bowl, you know

656
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: the outcome, it's a little bit different. One would you

657
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: watch the whole season the same way? Probably not. So

658
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: It's just it's just cool. I think it's a unique

659
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: thing and it's something fun if if no one figures

660
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: it out. And again, now I didn't go into it,

661
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: expect you all. I'm going to have this be unspoiled.

662
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: That was never again, You're gonna see I couldn't have

663
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: predicted what happened. Um P. I gotta ask you though,

664
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: because I'm trying to go back in my mind of

665
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: what it was like and I can't really remember. But

666
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: after last night, right, this story starts for you and

667
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: for the next you know, ten plus weeks, this will

668
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: be the story that people are watching and unfolding alongside

669
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: of your life. But this has already happened in your life.

670
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: This is a huge moment probably no matter how this

671
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: ends up, the biggest, one of the biggest, if not

672
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: the biggest moment in that you've ever had in your

673
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: story as a human. What is it like now sitting

674
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: here today, going all this has happened. There's been a

675
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: ton of tears a ton of emotion, a ton of love, whatever,

676
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting here going I have this all kind

677
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: of like inside of me build up and I just

678
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: can't talk about it. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm

679
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: sure you know exactly what I'm feeling right now. It's

680
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: it was, It is the craziest feeling I you know,

681
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 1: I kind of had the hiatus from when we finished

682
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: filming and you know, you're processing everything, all the good,

683
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: all the bad, and it's a little bit of a lull.

684
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: And now after last night, I'm reliving it again. And

685
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: I knew, I mean, I remember from Hannah season and

686
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: the actually it was kind of crazy to do it,

687
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: have a little break and then relive it. And this

688
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: whole season obviously it's a lot bigger for me specifically.

689
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: And um, it's a beautiful season. It's a tough season,

690
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: and I know that it's gonna be there's me a

691
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: lot of highs, but I know it's gonna be a

692
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: lot of loads and I don't have to re experience

693
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: and um, yeah, it's a very unique, surreal experience. Well

694
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: it's a spoiler free ending. Supposedly, you did say on

695
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: your Instagram yesterday, where's the quote, I'm thankful for the

696
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: most amazing opportunity to find my girl. And he's smiling, guys,

697
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 1: and he's just lit up a little bit. Oh yeah, Okay,

698
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna run with it a little bit. And

699
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that even though, like you may have not

700
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: been able to make a final decision on that finale,

701
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: it still ended up being a happy ending for you. Yeah.

702
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: I I can say I'm happy, and I can say that,

703
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: but is it an ending. I don't know. I want

704
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: to say it's it's funny how everyone like reads into

705
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: every little word. And I'm not gonna lie because I'm

706
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: in this position. I don't know if you did this, Ben,

707
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: It's just maybe I'm kind of weird. Since i have

708
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: to be in secret about it, I'm kind of having

709
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: fune then maybe throwing people off, you're a little bit.

710
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: They're a little bit. They're the saying things that you know,

711
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: just to throw them off. Just have fun with it

712
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: because you know this, I'll never be in this kind

713
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: of situation ever again. So um, it's cool. Yeah, it's

714
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: this is a funny time because you have all this

715
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: that you know, you're one of a few people that

716
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: do know. Now you're doing press outlets. Everybody's trying to

717
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: get something out of you. They're treating you almost like

718
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: an object. They're just like drilling you questions, and you

719
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: do have fun with it. It is fine. I mean,

720
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: I guess until like one day you just snap and

721
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: you're like, this is ridiculous, Like can we not just

722
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: let this thing play out? Because I'm tired of like

723
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: always being on guard in public. I need buddy that

724
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: I talked. I know, I hate now like to go

725
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: to like you gotta tune in and find out. Like

726
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: I literally find myself saying that every single day to everyone.

727
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: And I mean, I know everyone's curious and they're excited,

728
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: and I appreciate that, but I know what you mean.

729
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: But I'm trying to have as so much fun with

730
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: it as I can. Before we talk about Hannah, I

731
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: have to say I've been thinking that you look like that,

732
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: Like I feel like you look like a lighter colored Ben.

733
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: I've heard that before, okay, and then like you guys

734
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: have similar voices, but now that I'm actually next to

735
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: you in person, I'm thinking that you are the actual

736
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: child of Ben Against and Nick File. It's actually weird.

737
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: It's so weird. It's so crazy because honestly, Ben, I

738
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: told you, I'm such a huge fan of Ben. I

739
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: remember his season, like that guy did it right, and

740
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: I just you know, I think she's the film all

741
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 1: the guys. You know, you certainly feel the most reminiscent

742
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: of Ben watching last night's episode than anyone we've seen

743
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: since little a little corny trying her hardest to be

744
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: like semi cool. It works right, Okay, Now for Handah questions,

745
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: you said that when Hannah came out of the limo

746
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: that you didn't want to stop looking at her, and like,

747
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: I feel like your heart probably sunk. It was that huge,

748
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: and I think you probably got a little excited that

749
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: she was there to join the house. Yeah. I so

750
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: when that when that door, that door first opened, At

751
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: first I didn't realize it was actually hurt. I just

752
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: saw this beautiful girl, and then as she kind of

753
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: stepped out, John dropped, I realized that's Hannah, and just

754
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: I mean all the motions just hit me at once,

755
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: obviously really excited, really nervous, just not knowing why she's there,

756
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: and a little bit of me definitely kind of I

757
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: really loved the gesture and her giving me back the wings,

758
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: but a little bit of me did. It was curious

759
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: if she was gonna like ask to come in, you know,

760
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: coming in the mansion. I'm not gonna lie in that

761
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: moment um. You know, she didn't, and she left, and

762
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: you guys saw what happened later on with that group

763
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 1: day in that conversation, and that was that was pretty

764
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: deep for sure. So that must have just thrown you off.

765
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: Like you're excited about meeting new women, but then you're

766
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: reminded of all the feelings that you have her hand,

767
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: and then when you walked into the room where you

768
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: just kind of like, I hope somebody here can compare

769
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: in my heart absolutely absolutely remember, Yeah, the first kind

770
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: of toasts I gate with all the women after all

771
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: the entrances, and I needed obviously address why she was there,

772
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: and I did, and all the women didn't. They were

773
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: really understanding, which was awesome because they could have gone

774
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: off on me, you know the first night, and um,

775
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, they all knew how much you know, she

776
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: means to me. And I remember telling him like it

777
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: just it made me even more hopeful that this was

778
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: going to work because it kind of brought back some

779
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: feelings of what I was feeling with her on that season,

780
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is gonna work. I have all

781
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: the hope in the world. I'm going to find my

782
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: girl that she's in this room right now, And um,

783
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 1: I really just I really appreciated that gesture by Hannah.

784
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: So you were in on it though. A couple of

785
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: days later, when she was one of the like leaders

786
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: of the date, Um, what made you think, like, I'm

787
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: cool to have her make another appearance. Maybe it wasn't

788
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: the best best I remember the date card said, I

789
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: hope this isn't awkward. Was awkward, but I, um, it

790
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: was fun. We're everyone knows about our passes than secrets.

791
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: Were kind of owning it, and it was really supposed

792
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: to be like a fun date. It was gonna be

793
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: awkward for sure, and uncomfortable kind of getting the girls

794
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: out of the comfort zone and and me as well,

795
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 1: And um, what ended up happening like that? The date

796
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: just not happening. That wasn't planned. Obviously, we were supposed

797
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: to to go forward with it, and that conversation kind

798
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: of took over and we had to with it, and

799
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: it was a very honest conversation that for sure had

800
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: happened in that moment, and you know it is what

801
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 1: it is. I felt like when Hannah was up telling

802
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: her sex story on the stage, she was come across

803
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: a little bit of a little cocky. She was like

804
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: exerting some dominance. I think she was kind of like, ladies,

805
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: this is my man, this is what happened between us,

806
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: and you won't be able to compare. I think there

807
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: was a lot of jealousy coming out. Yeah, and I

808
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: get it. I totally get it, and part of me

809
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: felt bad about it, kind of putting the woman through that. Again,

810
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was going to be the date.

811
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: So maybe if I did, maybe I would have, I

812
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: thought twice. But um, so you didn't know that was

813
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: gonna be the topic of the date. I had no

814
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: idea what the date was. All I knew that Hannah

815
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: was hosting it. I had no idea what we were doing.

816
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I didn't tell the girls obviously that

817
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: Hannah was hosting it until I saw her. But that's

818
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: the only part that I knew. Let's talk about the

819
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: date in general. Um, just like sex stories, do you

820
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: feel like that's like something that's okay to do on

821
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: the first date with women, Like, it's a thing I

822
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: took my for is one on ones my parents about renewal.

823
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: So I was like, just like going out of the

824
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: gates fast. Um, you know again. Yeah, it obviously is

825
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: a theme of you know, our the last season with Hannah.

826
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 1: The last couple of seasons, sex has been a big thing.

827
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: It is, Um, I for one, listen, I people don't

828
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: believe it, but I am very usually private about my

829
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: intimate life. It's kind of gotten blown up. I understand.

830
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm just owning it. Good thing is I'm comfortable talking

831
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: about it. And I know there was a big theme

832
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: of Hannah talking about women empowerment with sex and not

833
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: letting it, you know, be something that they can't talk

834
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: about or feel ashamed about it. So I think that

835
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: was the what she was trying to get through to them.

836
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: But do you mind if I go with a couple

837
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: more questions before I know I'm loving this. Man was

838
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: laughing over here. I like the comment that Pete just

839
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: made he typically private with his private life, and I

840
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: was like, there's no shot. I know nobody believes that,

841
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: but I swear it to you, and you can look.

842
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: I never said anything about the woman. I was never me. No,

843
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: you know you never did. Um, okay, So what I

844
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: did love was that Hannah was what we oh Hannah

845
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: to be. She didn't change at all when you saw

846
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: her backstage, and she was like not going to hold

847
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: back what she was thinking, what her heart was telling her.

848
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 1: And I think you were frustrated that she waited till

849
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: that moment to tell you about all these lingering feelings

850
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: and frustrations that she had. What were you thinking, I

851
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 1: need to I mean, we know what you were thinking.

852
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: You were thinking. You're asking me to be like third

853
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: place again. You've already like tried it with Jed and

854
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: that didn't work out. Then you already asked Tyler and

855
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: that didn't work out, and so now here you are

856
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: placing me third again. I don't know if like I was,

857
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: that was how the conversation started. It was more, you know,

858
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: I saw she was emotional and we went in and

859
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: we talked, and um, you know she I was just

860
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: trying to pick her mind because I had genuine questions

861
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: that I had wondered about for a long time, specifically

862
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: going back to Afar and if anything was ever going

863
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: to possibly happen with us and so it was kind

864
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: of more me asking her the question. I don't think

865
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: it was. It wasn't necessarily her like part of me, oh,

866
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: you're in my third place, And it wasn't like that. Um.

867
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get some answers to stuff that

868
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: I want to get answers to and try to get

869
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: that closure. And in that moment, I remember kind of bad.

870
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, is this appropriate to be talking to her

871
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: about this with? You know, I have the rest of

872
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: these girls outside waiting for me to come back for

873
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: this group date, and I just came to the realization Listen,

874
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: I it was so early on, and that it was

875
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: a couple of days from when I met them. I

876
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: didn't really have any real feelings or emotions with any

877
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: of those women yet I knew they were amazing, but

878
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: I had feelings for Hannah, and those all resurfaced, and

879
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: so I was treated myself and I told the girls

880
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: that from the very first night I would do that

881
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: the entire entire time, and I didn't. I couldn't have

882
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: predicted it like that coming off. But yeah, I don't

883
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: think it was ever handed trying to put me like

884
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: in a third place thing. It was more me kind

885
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: of questioning her. Do you think it was coming from

886
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: a place of jealousy fomo for her, or do you

887
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: think it was coming from like, oh, crap, I really

888
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: miss out on this opportunity and I I need to

889
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: get it off my chest. A mix with like her

890
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 1: explaining everything happened, like yeah, why she was coming back, now,

891
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: why she was telling you this? Now? Yeah, listen, we're

892
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: all human. We you know, if you want to call

893
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: mistakes or whatnot. I mean, we learned from him and

894
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: you go through these experiences, and no one's perfect. She

895
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: preached that from the very beginning of her season. I

896
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: remember the first thing, and that's one thing I took

897
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: with me kind of into my first speech to kind

898
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: of set the tone of my my season with the girls,

899
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: like we're not perfect, m raw and be vulnerable. And

900
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: she was displaying that again like she is always done

901
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: and something I love about her, and um, you know

902
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: again it was an honest talk that had happened. Those

903
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: were all real feelings. And you guys, I'll see what

904
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: happens next week. You talk about you know, I mean,

905
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: I've just been talking about how Hannah comes and tells

906
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: you this. Now, what if she had come and told

907
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: you that a couple of weeks prior, what would you

908
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: what would you have said? Would you have dropped out

909
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: of the Bachelor root? Ben's laughing. You're gonna think I'm

910
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: crazy for that when you hear what I'm about to say. Um, oh,

911
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: he would have? I told you? I told her that.

912
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: I'll be straight up, I don't have no reason I

913
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: had anything I told Hannah, and whether it's shown or

914
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: not in that moment that Ah, if if we would

915
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: have had that conversation earlier before obviously I decided to

916
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: do this, I probably wouldn't be the Bachelor. Wow. So

917
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: that must have frustrated her even more and probably made

918
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: her want to stay in that house even more. But

919
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: we know that she doesn't stay in the house because

920
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: she goes on twin Dancing with the Stars. Ben, do

921
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: you have any questions to go? I could keep going here.

922
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 1: I have so many questions, but any more questions about

923
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: Hannah because I'm like, I'm gonna dick I can. I

924
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: gotta dig that doesn't believe me that. Here's the thing.

925
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: Can of course, here's my honest feedback, And I could

926
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: be wrong you. I've heard um from the team at

927
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: the Bachelor that you are a tremendous fellow, um, and

928
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: I've got to talk to you quite a bit, and

929
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 1: I know that to be true. I think it would

930
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: be so hard to be prepping my life to become

931
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: the Bachelor, to be out there in public as the

932
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: next Bachelor, to know that a relationship just this is

933
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: me talking. I'm not you agree or disagree to know

934
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: that this relationship just ended. Somebody told me that they

935
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: didn't want to be with me, meaning you and Hannah.

936
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: They call you once you're already announced the Bachelor, and

937
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,479
Speaker 1: you would say, yeah, you know what, I'm gonna quit

938
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: this thing with a whole new opportunity and tons of

939
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: new women to meet, to go back to somebody that's

940
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: just dumped me. I think that would be really hard

941
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: to process. Yeah, that's totally fair, and I'm not saying

942
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: it was the smart decision if I would have done that,

943
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 1: but I'm just I'm deciding to be a percent transparent

944
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: with you guys and honest, and that's speaking from my heart.

945
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: In that moment, I remember all that stuff and I

946
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: was processing then that's where my mind was that so here,

947
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: just to close this thought, it means a lot that

948
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: you say this, Pete, because the last night, as I'm watching,

949
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: to be honest, I'm watching and going, ah, this is

950
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: kind of just like in the moment, right, he's trying

951
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: not to hurt her feelings. Um, he's trying to fill

952
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: conversation with saying what if? What if? What if? And

953
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't I get it as a as

954
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: a man, or somebody doesn't love controversy or confrontation, Like

955
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: this would be what I would do, Like you ask

956
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 1: a bunch of questions and you say the what ifs

957
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: of everything until it ends and then you both move

958
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: onto your separate ways. But to know that I'm sitting

959
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: there last night and seeing you actually saying, hey, I

960
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: really care about you or I cared about you like

961
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: this is hard for me to see you sitting here crying.

962
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: It makes me go. While that moment was so much

963
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: more real than what I assumed. Oh I assumed it

964
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: was so real. Yeah, that was That was an extremely

965
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: real moment for me, and no one saw it coming.

966
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: I didnt see it coming, Um, but I was really

967
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: thankful that I did have the opportunity to have that

968
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: conversation with hand in that moment because we definitely needed that.

969
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 1: I could kind of tell it was so real because

970
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: I saw her like panicky with the producers and the

971
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: little bit that we got to see that fourth wall broken,

972
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: and I knew that like it. It was probably something

973
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: she was like, I don't want to do this, I

974
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: don't want to do this, but nless, she just couldn't

975
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: hold it back, and it was just like, I'm just

976
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: gonna be here and he's gonna find me and it's

977
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: gonna be really really awkward, but I have to get

978
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: this off my chest. Actually, I'm giving you one minute

979
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 1: in thirty seconds to continue to drill this poor fellow

980
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: before I started talking about because I have to. I

981
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: have two really big questions, Um, if you loved her

982
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: that much that you would have denied the bachelor role,

983
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: why didn't you reach out to her like she mentioned?

984
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: Because I I truly wanted it to be a very

985
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: authentic conversation when we met a far and when we

986
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: saw each other and being again complete eyes, I was

987
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: told not to, so I didn't. I was told not

988
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: to reach out, like to talk to them, and um,

989
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: talk to Hannah until until then, and you know I

990
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: was told you know by producer too, Like there's a reason,

991
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: like you want that to be authentic and that's a

992
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: big moment. So, uh, that's the reason I didn't do it.

993
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 1: She kept saying that it was going to be between

994
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: you and Jed, but then it wasn't. What in the

995
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: world that threw me off? Yeah, so what what? What

996
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: did you interpret that as? I if she said that,

997
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: I don't remember ever seeing that to me, that it

998
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: was me and Jed. I never ever recall that that

999
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: she kept picturing you and Jed, but then it just

1000
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: wasn't that. Yeah, and she, I guess almost like kind

1001
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: of swears that she did. Maybe she I don't know,

1002
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: I don't remember that. Um, that didn't necessarily feel good.

1003
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: I didn't like enjoy it. That didn't make me feel better.

1004
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: I guess hearing that, But it's crazy. There's a mess.

1005
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: It was uh real. And I would say, like, now

1006
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: that you have said that you didn't reach out to

1007
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 1: her because you weren't supposed to, which is true. Um,

1008
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: I would say that it wasn't in her It was

1009
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: her right to reach out to you, Like if she

1010
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: wanted to go out with you, she should have reached

1011
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 1: out to you because she was the one that dumped you,

1012
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Absolutely, yeah, just like the

1013
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: way that she asked Tyler out. Was your friendship with

1014
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: Tyler in any way a reason that you didn't go

1015
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: near Hannah after a f r uh? No, The main

1016
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: reason was just that, I remember. So I saw her

1017
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: that that the day that I was on the finale,

1018
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: and then I went to New York that night and

1019
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: I watched We had talked a little bit about possibly,

1020
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: you know, catching up and meeting up again, and and

1021
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: then she asked Tyler out the next night. And then

1022
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I'm done because you had two

1023
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: separate nights of a far last week. Yes, And so

1024
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: once I saw that, then I just kind of gave

1025
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: up on the on the hand, on pursuing hand, I

1026
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, well they're obviously going at it now,

1027
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: so um giving it a shot. So that was kind

1028
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: of it for me. And get it all right, Benjamin, Oh,

1029
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: these are my favorite days. I'm telling you. Actually get

1030
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 1: so excited. There's so much going through that that girl's

1031
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: mind right now about this season, Peter. You just she's

1032
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: going to sleep so much easier night because of you,

1033
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: And I just have to say that I have to

1034
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: ask Kelly questions when you're done, but you go first,

1035
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: All right, Actual, I'll give you your time. But before

1036
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: I do, uh, Peter, I want to sit down for

1037
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: a second and just chat with you a little bit.

1038
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: I want to tell you how, um, what I think

1039
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: of you so far. UM. Like that matters to anybody,

1040
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: but it does to our listeners. They listen because they

1041
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: want to know what I think. UM. I've really enjoyed

1042
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: getting to know you. UM. We've talked a few times.

1043
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: Your mind going into this and kind of your attitude

1044
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: going into this was something that I admired and was

1045
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: learning from. And UM, I think what I saw last

1046
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: night was that same guy that we you know, before

1047
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: we talked and you started your season, the same guy

1048
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: stood up there And I think that that for me

1049
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: is refreshing, um, and it's exciting. So that's how I

1050
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: want to start this. And then I also want to say,

1051
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: uh that one of the things that I take, uh

1052
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: that really breaks me is is when I when people

1053
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: get off this season and I hear that they weren't

1054
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: nice to the staff or to the team that works

1055
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: on the show. Because there's you know, two d plus

1056
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: people that this is their full time job, so they

1057
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: feed their families and it every year we bring up,

1058
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: um things that have happened during the show, and how

1059
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: hard that must have been for the employees involved, the

1060
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: people that that do this for a living. And I

1061
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: heard nothing but amazing compliments about you and how you

1062
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 1: treated people. Why why was that something that you made

1063
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: um important in your experience and it wasn't just about

1064
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: you that it was about the others. Yeah, I mean,

1065
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think for me, it just it comes

1066
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: down to just gratitude and I felt like the most

1067
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: grateful person and are just the luckiest person in the

1068
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: entire world. Um that everybody involved, and you guys know

1069
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: the huge team that's involved with everything just that people

1070
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: never see with all you know, prepping the next day

1071
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: and the next week in advance and getting everything set up.

1072
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: There's so much work that goes into it. And it's

1073
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: literally all for me to hopefully find my person and

1074
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: that just I I don't understand, like what I did

1075
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: to be able to have this amazing opportunity and have

1076
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: the time of my life doing and just the most

1077
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: fun dates ever. Like it's freaking awesome, man, And how

1078
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: could you not just be so thankful for everyone that

1079
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: and I could tell it to you like I got.

1080
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: I had an amazing relationship with a lot of people

1081
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: you know, on on the crew, and it's just it

1082
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: so great that they actually, like I could just see

1083
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: how much they truly wanted me to find what I

1084
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: was after and they were so invested. And I saw

1085
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: that from night one until the very end. There were

1086
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: so many tears and laughter and just it literally family,

1087
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: and I just I'm so lucky. Where did that great

1088
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: gratefulness lead you then? So? I mean obviously at night uh,

1089
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 1: in the first episode, we saw you involve your family, um,

1090
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 1: and it we saw you be really appreciate to the women.

1091
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: We obviously now know behind the scenes you were great

1092
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: to the staff. How did your gratefulness going into it,

1093
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: and your consistent gratefulness throughout where? How did that guide

1094
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: you and lead you? And what kind of things stood

1095
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: out because you were so grateful? I think, Um, you know,

1096
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: I like the entire journey. I I knew what I

1097
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: wanted to happen in the end. And I'm a very

1098
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: obviously optimistic, positive person. I don't think anyone there's no

1099
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 1: doubt about that. Um. But something that I just always

1100
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: focused on because there was a lot of tough times,

1101
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: you know, being the badge, like in the same time

1102
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: the hardest times in my life. But I know that

1103
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: I always go back to it's impossible to feel two

1104
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: things at once, and if you always have that feeling

1105
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: of gratefulness and gratitude, you can't feeling negative feeling. And

1106
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: through all those hard tough moments, or even when I

1107
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: was like messing up and I felt horrible that I

1108
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: was letting the girls down and I wasn't doing the

1109
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: best job that maybe I could have done, I just

1110
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: tried to bring in ground and center myself back to

1111
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: just being grateful for this opportunity, not knowing I didn't

1112
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: need to be perfect, and just grateful that they were

1113
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: there and they were giving me a chance, and um

1114
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: it literally just like that's how I lived my life,

1115
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: and even beyond the batchelor like that just that's me,

1116
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: and um, you know it's worked for me up to

1117
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: this point and keep saying it broken record, but it's

1118
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: grateful for this entire journey. I heard that when you've

1119
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: got your Harry Potter's car, you know, you're like gushing

1120
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: blood and you're apologizing to the crew for like delaying

1121
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: the day because I wasn't feeling any pain at that point.

1122
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: I had so many endorphins going like they adrenaline. Have

1123
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: felt no pain, so I'm thinking, like, shoot, it's done,

1124
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: Like it's over, Like it's I don't know if we're

1125
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 1: going to continue this. I literally my sporehead was split

1126
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: like this day like three. It was insane. It was

1127
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: a murder scene. It was crazy, so much blood um.

1128
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 1: But luckily, you know, we got to do the date

1129
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 1: the next day, didn't flown it down the I remember

1130
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: this moment for me, P and I want to see

1131
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: if you had one like it, And again, don't I'm

1132
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: not asking you to spoil anything. I don't. I don't

1133
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: really care about that. I want to watch it along

1134
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: with you. But now people know how my season kind

1135
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: of went through. And then I had a really tough

1136
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: decision at the end, and I was having really strong

1137
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: feelings for two women, and I knew I was going

1138
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: to have to break up with one of them. And

1139
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: then I was also at this point a little peeved

1140
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: at the whole experience because I was tired and we

1141
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: had been traveling, and I knew this was leading up

1142
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: to the probably the biggest moment in the life and

1143
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: also one of the saddest moments of my life. And

1144
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: I was just like being the victim. I had a

1145
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: victim mentality. And I remember this moment. I was sitting

1146
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: on the edge of my bed and I don't know

1147
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: if you're a man of faith, but I was sitting

1148
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: on the edge of my bed and I'm looking out

1149
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: in Jamaica at the ocean um from this insane house.

1150
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: And then I look out and there's this team to

1151
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: the right of me in the in like the the

1152
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: grass building the stage for what was going to be

1153
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: the proposal. And then I looked to the left of

1154
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,439
Speaker 1: me and there was my team of Bachelor producers sitting

1155
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: down below me, having food together. And I just started

1156
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: praying this like overwhelming prayer of like I can't believe

1157
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: I get to do this, Like I cannot believe that

1158
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: this is my story, that for the rest of my life,

1159
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: this will be a piece of what I talk about,

1160
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: and that I get to stand here in this moment

1161
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: as a dude who was not even a year ago

1162
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: working in an office and today like people care about

1163
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: me in ways that I've never felt before and I

1164
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: just started praying this like prayer and it changed my

1165
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: perspective from that moment on until today on what I

1166
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: viewed this thing is. It's beautiful. As you had that moment,

1167
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean I had that from the very first night.

1168
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: I have a very similar moment. I remember standing there

1169
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: outside with the first limo coming up and you look

1170
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: to the left and we can't see, you know, from

1171
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, but all the crew there and all

1172
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: the cameras and everyone just there for me to get

1173
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: this going, and just throughout the entire entire journey, like

1174
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: every day, I mean up to the very end, and

1175
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to give away like the end,

1176
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: but like there's you know, obviously some big moments there

1177
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: and a lot of work is put into it um

1178
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: for me and how life changing that is and how

1179
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: beautiful a moment, and I'll never forget it. And uh,

1180
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: I know what you mean. Man, It's like it's just

1181
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: it's crazy, it's very surreal, and it's just knowing that

1182
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: there's so many people that truly are invested in you

1183
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: and care about you finding what you're after. It's I

1184
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: get as I when I'm on airplanes and I'm saying

1185
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: by the passengers and they come up to me like

1186
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: we hope you find what you're looking for and just

1187
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: like like just so supportive, like that means so much

1188
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: and people don't really realize how much that means to me,

1189
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: and um, it's this is the support has been unreal.

1190
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:45,959
Speaker 1: I know we don't have a lot of time left

1191
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: with you, Pete. I just want to go through a

1192
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: few things with you and get some get some info

1193
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: from it. Uh, A couple of things fears before the

1194
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: show um started and now fears now as you walk

1195
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: to this world as the Bachelor. The biggest one for

1196
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: going into it was was for sure just somehow having

1197
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: someone in some type of way kind of fool me

1198
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: and have me just fault for them, um, you know,

1199
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: without possibly letting me see the full the full side

1200
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: of them or um some type of issue in that regard,

1201
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: because I knew I was, and I asked all the

1202
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: women that that first night, I said, you know, please

1203
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: show me the respect that I'm going to show everyone

1204
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: of you. And you know, I know I'm not naive.

1205
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: I get what this amazing franchise and opportunity can do

1206
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: for you outside of this, but please, because I'm taking

1207
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: this so seriously. Please show me the respect back of

1208
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, only being here as much as you can

1209
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: just to see if there's something with me, and if

1210
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: it's not, like please please don't stay. And that was

1211
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: the biggest fear that maybe they wouldn't take me seriously

1212
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: in that regard. Um after the show, now, um, you

1213
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: know it's tough. This is weird now being in this

1214
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: situation of you know, you got the secret that you're

1215
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: keeping and no one really knows it, and um, I

1216
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe maybe I like I put too much

1217
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: pressure on myself. I remember going and I was asked,

1218
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: you know, you have Colton with the fence and and

1219
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: and Han out with the windmill and all this stuff,

1220
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: and what do you want to be remembered for? And

1221
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: I remember, like, I don't want to be remember for

1222
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: any of that stuff. I just wanted to truly get

1223
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: because I love this show so much and what it

1224
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: stands where I wanted to give everyone that opportunity to

1225
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: follow a love story and kind of live like curiously

1226
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: through it. And I guess my biggest series, you know,

1227
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: lighting people down in some way, I don't know, Well

1228
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: that's what Everybody wants from the show is just a

1229
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: really good love story at the end of it, and

1230
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: I hope you got it. But did you also hook

1231
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 1: up with Kelly before the show? I promise you. I didn't,

1232
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 1: and I was very I didn't even get her phone number.

1233
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: I was like, listening, kiss no kiss you guys, how

1234
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: to dance you? How too? We had a great time.

1235
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: We met. We met in the lobby. We went in,

1236
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: we got because I was leaving, I'm like, we want

1237
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: to get a drink, So we went to get a

1238
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: drink and then we went out. We went back. It

1239
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: was it was a close so when we did some

1240
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: dancing outside, her friends had like a boom box. We

1241
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: started dancing. We did a little swing dancing that was

1242
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: really fun. And then the night was over. We're gonna

1243
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: head out and my friends are going to Denny's. Remember,

1244
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,479
Speaker 1: and um, I was like, all right, well, I guess

1245
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what happens. I didn't get her number.

1246
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: I was like, if it's meant to be, it'll be

1247
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: serendipity exactly. I remember. I just like, and that was

1248
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: the smartest move you've ever made existed? I did. It

1249
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: was hard because like there was a connection that I'm

1250
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. It's palpable. We can feel it. And yeah,

1251
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: I remember watching her. She left, then she turned, I

1252
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 1: gave her hug, she walked away with her friend in

1253
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: the elevator. I was like, that could have been the

1254
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: last time I ever saw that girl. Something amazing could

1255
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: have happened with that girl if I would have pursued it. There,

1256
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. Oh my god, that's amazing. Yeah,

1257
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: I know she has a target on our back right now,

1258
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: but I really like her. And my last fun question

1259
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: is when that What was the last time you flew

1260
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: a plane commercially? Um, like a week and half ago. Wait,

1261
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: Bill Bachelor is actually out there still flying plans? Hell yeah, money. Actually,

1262
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: I know this job. That is awesome. I went back

1263
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: to work like like a week after we finished film

1264
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: and but that's like my happy place. People have to

1265
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: understanding I love what I do, and I know it's obvious,

1266
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: but I really do. That's so cool. All right, Well,

1267
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I have one really interesting thing,

1268
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: and you just talk through with you before we let

1269
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: you go. It's gonna take two minutes, so I know

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Speaker 1: your producers over there are probably going, we gotta go,

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Speaker 1: we gotta go. Well, so night one, you you kissed.

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Speaker 1: I mean, i'd say a lot of people, here's what

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Speaker 1: happened during my season. Chris sol did the same thing.

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Speaker 1: So I went to the night one in the big

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Speaker 1: contint fracy that I wanted that everybody asked me going

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Speaker 1: in The Bachelor from all the networks was how many

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Speaker 1: girls are you gonna kiss on night one? So I

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Speaker 1: went into it going, I'm gonna be really cautious of this,

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Speaker 1: like super cautious to not kiss anybody on night one.

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Speaker 1: You did the opposite. But here's the thing, and we've

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Speaker 1: talked about on this show before about you and I

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Speaker 1: think you're good dude, I think you you respect people. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't think any of those things. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that here. But if like, for whatever reason it is,

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Speaker 1: you can make out and have sex in a wind

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Speaker 1: mill and everybody goes, oh sweet Peter, I like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, man, I honestly, I guess because I never

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Speaker 1: brought it up. I don't know she did it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so she kind of set me up. But that was

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Speaker 1: still going, oh sweet, Peter, I'm going this dude, I'm

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Speaker 1: a passionate man. No, but it's funny. I actually I

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Speaker 1: remember going to the first night I promised you I

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Speaker 1: was gonna I had that same approach and then it

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Speaker 1: was and I loved it. Savannah was very bold. She

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Speaker 1: came up with with the blindfold and got it going

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Speaker 1: and kind of like broke the ice there, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, all right, let's go. How do you feel

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Speaker 1: about that? You were okay with that? I was, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was bold. It was cool as different

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Speaker 1: and um, and then when I was dealing with anyone

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Speaker 1: else at night, like that's why I wasn't afraid to

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Speaker 1: go and for a kiss. Yeah, you're like, hey, somebody

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Speaker 1: already started me actually before we let you loose again,

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Speaker 1: because I know. Yeah. Hey, uh, Peter, great job all

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Speaker 1: Night one. Congratulations on finishing the season. Uh, we'll be

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Speaker 1: excited to watch along with you again. The ratings were

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Speaker 1: as big as ever, and a lot of that becomes

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Speaker 1: because people are rooting for you, and here at the

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Speaker 1: almost from his podcast, we're rooting for you as well.

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Speaker 1: Don't let this be the last time, though you come

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Speaker 1: on and chat with us. I would love to have

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Speaker 1: to have you back. You're so you're such a fun interview. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Pilot Pete just walked out the door. Hey, we are

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Speaker 1: now hooked. This season will be unlike any other, so

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Speaker 1: make sure you come to San Francisco and here even

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Speaker 1: more of our thoughts to hang out with us to

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Speaker 1: enjoy an evening. We'll be in San Francisco January eleven.

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Speaker 1: Doors open at seven pm. To get start at thirty

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Speaker 1: five dollars. To get tickets, go to APE Concerts dot

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Speaker 1: com and ticketmaster dot com. It's mysel fin Ashley I Connetti, Yes, Ashley,

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Speaker 1: I canntti with special guests and performances, doing a lie

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Speaker 1: almost famous podcast from the Palace of Fine Arts in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, California, January eleven, and we hope to see

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Speaker 1: you there. Can I just say that I am even

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Speaker 1: more excited for the season after we've talked to Peter,

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Speaker 1: gotten to know him and his sweetness even more, and

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Speaker 1: some of the answers that he gave make me even

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Speaker 1: more curious about how this Hannah thing is going to

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Speaker 1: turn out. I would say it is going to be

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Speaker 1: something interesting, and I agree. Talking to Peter makes me go, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm rooting for the guy. I'm rooting for these women.

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Speaker 1: I think they're great. Um, but it's one of those

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Speaker 1: seasons that I feel like it might be the first

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Speaker 1: time in a long time we've had moments for me.

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Speaker 1: At the end of this on a proposal, I maybe

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Speaker 1: tear eyed. I don't know it could happen, who knows,

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Speaker 1: But anyways, Ashley, I know that we'll have a great

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Speaker 1: time in San Francisco. With that, I've been been, I've

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Speaker 1: been Ashley by Follow the Benn and Ashley I Almost

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