1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: What's up? You guys are listening to a valves Edge podcast. 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm here with my friends from st A. I call 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: you guys friends mouth. I feel like we've officially we've 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: made it that far. That happens, that happened? Oh just today? Okay, Okay. 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: I want to introduce you all, but I feel like 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: you all have like ten names. So you want to 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: introduce yourself. I call you Miguel, but you've actually call 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: me Mike. Now you can call me Mike musical friends 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: because you're friends. I think I don't understand really where 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: Mike from mcguel, Miguel, Michael, Mike. I grew up as Mike, 11 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: got it? Okay? So Mike, who is what's your title 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: at SIETE? Okay? CEO and brother and little brother. And 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: then we have Veronica who also goes by Veronica or Vitel. Okay. 14 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: I just can't say you roll your r's like that. 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: I even have a hard time doing so. Your own name, 16 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: and you are the one who actually created the product 17 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: for c correct, how would you what's your title? My 18 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: official title is President and Chief Innovation Officer. Okay. And 19 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: when I say product, we're talking about you guys. Have 20 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 1: you started with what alam tortillas? Right? We started with 21 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: an almond flower toe? Okay, two thousand fourteen. And tell 22 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: me tell people why because I have know your story obviously, 23 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: and you guys were you were diagnosed with an autoimmune 24 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: disease early in life, right, and so you were finding 25 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: that you couldn't eat a lot of stuff or what 26 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 1: was happening. Tell me the whole story. Yeah, that really 27 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: is the reason why the business came about. So into 28 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: I was diagnosed with something called i t p UM 29 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: so like low platelet counts and just a lot of 30 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: autoimmune issues. And uh, I was dealing with that for 31 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: many years. And then I was diagnosed with lupus several 32 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: years later. Um, right after college. Was dealing with that. 33 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: UM was on lots of medications and just like very 34 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: inflamed and sick, and UH, I on my brother older 35 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: brothers recommendation, I started following a grain free diet, low 36 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: inflammation diet just to leave a lot of the symptoms 37 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: that I was experiencing. And UM, when I did that, 38 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: it was pretty cool. Um. It was easy for me 39 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: to do because my whole family, UM, there are seven 40 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: of us, so five kids and my parents we all 41 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: started eating that same way. UM. And that meant, you know, 42 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: there were a lot of things that we had grown 43 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: up eating that we could no longer eat as a family, 44 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: and that was tortilla's and chips, anything that had wheat, 45 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: gluten corn um was all off the tape. So all 46 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: of those things you just mentioned, that is what causes inflammation. UM. 47 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a doctor from your experience. From 48 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 1: my experience those foods, UM, when I personally eat them, 49 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: I do experience more inflammation. And I can tell you know, 50 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: just like little by little health issues will start poping out. 51 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: For me, every autoimmune issue that I've ever been diagnosed with, 52 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: and there are three, they're all inflammation faced and they're 53 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: all kind of they blend together. So they're hard to 54 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: diagnose often because usually it's just like, oh you have inflammation. 55 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: Um that is, you know, attacking your kidney, right. You know, 56 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: it just depends on where it's happening in your body, 57 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: is how they diagnose the the condition. Yeah, it's so 58 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: interesting when you say like auto mean like what did 59 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: you feel like? Just tired? And Um? It changed over time. 60 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: At first, it was just very scary because I was 61 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: bruising really easily, Like you could just tap me, and 62 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: I have a bruise leading really easily. Um, and I 63 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: couldn't figure out what was going on. So I had 64 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: gone to a doctor and asked them to run some 65 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: blood tests. And I was in high school and I 66 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: was in cheerleading, and I looked pretty healthy except for 67 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: the fact that I had bruises all over me. So 68 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: I think the doctors didn't really take it very seriously 69 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: because I had so much energy, and they basically told me, 70 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,559 Speaker 1: you're fine. We'll we'll let you know if anything comes 71 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: back with these blood tests that we ran. I never 72 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: heard back from them, like a month and a half later, 73 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: and it was getting worse and worse, and I was 74 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: starting to feel tired. Um. So it turns out that 75 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: they just kind of missed it. They didn't expect to 76 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: find anything in the blood work, and they freaked out 77 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: when they saw my plate accounts were so low. They 78 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: were like it, I don't know. I think at that 79 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: time they were like five thousand, You're supposed to have 80 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: something like a hundred fifty thousand platelets. Oh my gosh, 81 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: it like you need to be hospitalized. Um. But yeah, 82 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: it just it started with that, um, and then it 83 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: kind of progressed over the years. With the loopus came 84 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: a lot of joint pain and just general fatigue, UM, 85 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: and then other stuff like you know, weight gain and 86 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: everything that comes with that. You can depressed. Yeah, so 87 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: once you got diagnosed, you said your family just jumped 88 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: on board. Um. No, well, no, they did jump on board, 89 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: but UM, I don't think any of us really knew 90 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: what to do. When I was diagnosed, put on a 91 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: bunch of medicine, so they were very supportive with that, 92 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: and they wanted me to get better, but none of 93 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: us really knew how to go about doing that other 94 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: than you know, taking this medication that I was taking. 95 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: But my older brother, UM, he's kind of like the 96 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: research in the family. He's our Google guy. UM. So 97 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: he had just been looking on the internet trying to 98 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: see if there were answers for me, and he had 99 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: become really involved in CrossFit and he started hearing from 100 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: the people who were doing CrossFit, people posting on message 101 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: boards and stuff. At the time, this was like in 102 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: two thousand nine, UM, that they were following a gluten 103 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: free often grain free diet. People with different autoimmune conditions 104 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: and they were feeling better. So he got the idea 105 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: from um just reading online that that's something that I 106 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: should try to do. So I did, and everybody, you 107 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: guys opened a CrossFit gym, right, did you try in there? Mike, No, 108 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: I was actually UM I was here in Austin, so 109 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: I just did the programming, okay, okay. So this was 110 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: like a family, was the CrossFit gym family around the business. 111 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: So the CrossFit thing kind of came about around the 112 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: same time, UM I had changed my diet. We also 113 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: started exercising together as a family. So my parents have 114 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: this house in Laredo, Texas. Sits right on the border 115 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: UM Mexico, UM, well, Laredo is and they we my 116 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: brother Mike and my sister Becky and a couple of 117 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: their friends were getting together in my parents backyard and 118 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: the evenings and doing CrossFit workouts. And to me, I mean, 119 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know what they were doing, and I just 120 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: saw them lifting a bunch of heavy weights and it 121 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: looked like something I couldn't do because at the time 122 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: I was dealing with a lot of joint pain. Rights UM, 123 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't really easy for me to exercise at the time, 124 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: and Uh. They tried to convince me and my mom 125 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: to go out there and do it with them, but 126 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: we were both a little shy about exercising in front 127 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: of people. Um. Somehow we were convinced and we ended 128 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: up outside with them, and then that kind of turned 129 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: into um, neighbors peeking over the fence seeing what we 130 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: were doing. Um, all of my siblings were back there, 131 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: so friends, uh, some of my friends, some of their 132 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: friends there ended up being I think like people in 133 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: my parents backyard, and all of the cars were parked 134 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: there like at six pm every night, and uh, it 135 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: just got so big. Um, and we realized how powerful 136 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: it was for us to be working out together and 137 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: how much it helped to be in community and a workout. 138 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: We decided to turn it into an actual business, so 139 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: we started a company called G seven Athletics, UM, and 140 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: we ran that as a family for many years. Wow. 141 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: So the first started exercid eyes that helps you feel better, 142 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: I'm assuming, And then you guys all started with the 143 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: grain free Did everybody do it? Everybody did it? Yeah, 144 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: we're you just cooking that way? Like what was the 145 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: deal there? Um, So you might have a different perspective 146 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: on this but I think we would get together for 147 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: meals pretty much every night. So I was I think 148 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: it was right after I had graduated from grad school 149 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: and I was kind of trying to figure out what 150 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: I was going to do. So I was living with 151 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: my parents for a summer and he was home for 152 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: the summer, um about to possibly go off to law school. 153 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: My sister, my camp that guy. Yeah, so a few 154 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: of us were home for the summer, and um, we 155 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: uh lost my train of five. We would get together 156 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: for dinner pretty much every night, and my mom would 157 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: cook for us. So it just made you, guys, are 158 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: a Mexican heir to dry it. So it's a lot, 159 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: like you said, a lot of tacos, a lot of 160 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: caso those kind of Yeah. That was often Like our 161 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: meals were always pretty simple. Um, my mom would make 162 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: us what most people would call guests adias, but we 163 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: called cheese tacos for dinner pretty much. I don't know, 164 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: at least a couple of times a week probably that 165 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: would be are a dinner. Um. Torthia's were always part 166 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: of our meals and it just made it easier I 167 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: think for my mom and for all of us if 168 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: we ate the same way. Um. And then also they 169 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: know the way I operate, and I'm sure they understood 170 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: that if they were all eating you know, regular Torthea's 171 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: and I had to eat a piece of lettuce right 172 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: at the dinner table, um, it wasn't going to happen. 173 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: That wasn't going to get better. So yeah, that's just 174 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: isolating for these That's really cool that everybody kind of 175 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: jumped on board. Yeah. I never had to feel like 176 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: the weird person one with you know, all of the 177 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: healthy issues. Yeah. So okay, so everyone starts eating that way, 178 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: and what I love about you guys is like then 179 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're like, all right, wait do 180 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: we start in business? Like in the whole family jumps 181 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: on board. Yeah. So it wasn't really a plan. Um, 182 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: we were all eating that way, and I started feeling better, 183 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: and everybody was just feeling good, exercising together, eating well. 184 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: But we were missing out on a lot of the 185 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: foods that we had grown up beating and loving, um 186 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: dorthea specifically, and we had started playing around with say 187 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: we and me and my mom, mostly my little sister. 188 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: We had started playing around with almond flour as an 189 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: ingredient for like baked goods and Latin breads and stuff 190 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: like that. Um. And so I just had this idea 191 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: why that I could possibly take those ingredients to make 192 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: something that was at least similar to the torothea that 193 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: I knew growing up that my grandma had been making 194 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: for us for decades. UM. So I threw together some 195 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: ingredients and out came an almond flower dorothea. I let 196 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: my family try it, and it became a staple in 197 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: in our diets from then on out. Um, we could, 198 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: you know, how our thought goes again, we could have 199 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: our guess Ada's um and it just before it had 200 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: felt like we were missing out on part of our culture. 201 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: And uh, so we had that and we it was 202 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: really just something that we made to solve that I 203 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: made to solve a problem for me and my family. 204 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: And then people started finding out about it and asking 205 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: for them, and my mom and I were getting together 206 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: on weekends to make big batches of Gothia's. And it 207 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: wasn't really like, oh, we're going to turn this into 208 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: a business. It just felt kind of like an obligation. 209 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: People want them and they're benefiting from having a product 210 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: like this, Like if they're um, maybe eating less processed 211 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: foods or um. You know, a lot of people were 212 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: also dealing with autoingion issues like me, and they were 213 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: finding it really helpful to have a product like this 214 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: UM in their refrigerators. So um. Yeah. It wasn't really 215 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: a plan like, hey, let's make this product and start 216 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: a business. It just kind of happened, similar to the crossfits, 217 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: like you guys were just working out in the backyard. 218 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: I think that's a testament to your family that people. 219 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: I feel like you'll have this mentality of like the 220 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: more the merrier, welcome everybody come in. UM. So, once 221 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: it got started, let's talk like a little bit, how 222 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: did the whole family get involved? Because Mike, you went 223 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: to law school, right, so then how did you end 224 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: up jumping in it where you like, let's start a 225 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: bit nice or how did that whole thing start. I 226 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: was job hunting and I was living in Austin, And 227 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: if you're in Austin, I was having this conversation yesterday. 228 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: Like you, you go to Whole Foods in the middle 229 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: of the day and you wonder how there are hundreds 230 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: of people that are all on their laptops, like for 231 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: what they're doing what are they doing? Yeah, And I 232 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: think that at that point kind of started realizing like, 233 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: oh wow, a lot of these people are working for themselves, UM, 234 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: and that seemed pretty exciting. UM. So I started talking 235 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: with Battle and we would have conversations maybe like once 236 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: a week or a couple of times a week, just 237 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: talking about what I was seeing here in Austin and 238 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: how if we didn't sell the product that somebody else 239 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: would eventually, and that we would probably be mad about 240 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: that because we're a pretty competitive family UM and a 241 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: competitive business. So we continued having that conversation until I 242 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: think she was unhappy enough with her job at UM 243 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: the university where she was teaching, and I was job hunting. 244 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: So that makes you very hungry, very hungry. Yeah. So 245 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: she made a pack of Dorothea's. We went to a store, 246 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: knocked on the door, UM, asked to speak with the buyer, 247 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: made the buyer try the product right there in the spot, 248 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: and he told us that he would give us a 249 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: like a slot on the shelf if we started the 250 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: first place. Y'all went it. Yeah, the products really good? 251 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: Like how do you guys say, really gonna? I need 252 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: to work on that. I should have practiced this week. 253 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, so we got the business going. It was, um, 254 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: we created the business in February and then sold our 255 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: first product late April early May. Of wow, that is 256 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: so fat. I don't think I realized it was that fast. 257 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: So it started as tortillas and now you guys have 258 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: like extremely expanded And what I loved about what she 259 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: said last night was like, we only do products that 260 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: we find. What did you how did you say it? Yeah? 261 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: We um, we want our products to be innovative and 262 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: they need to solve problems. Solve problems. Yeah, because now 263 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: you have chips that are also grain free. Um, the 264 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: flavored ones are are they dairy free? Like basically like 265 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: a paleo right, so no, no junk. And then now 266 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: my favorite is the and their Friday and avocado oil 267 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: for I don't avocado oil, okay, and then the cash 268 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: UK so so that's also dairy free because I now 269 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: follow a dairy free, gluten free diet because it just 270 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 1: makes me feel a lot better. So, but like one 271 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: of the main things I was missing was casa or 272 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: like you se, when you go to a Mexican restaurant, 273 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: everyone else is eating it and you're like it's just case. Um. 274 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: And then you also have the hot sauce, so it's 275 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: like completely expanded. What's your favorite product? That's a good question. 276 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: The Foego chips good, that's really good. What about you there? 277 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, I have one in every category. Um, but 278 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: probably my favorite favorite is the original. Yeah. And then 279 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: Fuego chipped because they remind me of a chip that 280 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: I grew up eating a lot that's very spicy. Um. 281 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: I won't mention. I was about to drop somethings. Okay, 282 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: it's kind of like if there was a flaming hot 283 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: with really clean ingredients, right, Yeah, ingredients that I can eat? Right? 284 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you'll do? You want to reveal 285 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: something on the Bovisage podcast? Yeah? I mean you mentioned 286 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: four different categories that we're in, and I think we'll 287 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: definitely expand into other categories because we started as a 288 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: topia company, um, and then I think pretty quickly we 289 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: started realizing we could be more than that. We wanted 290 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: to share like lots of um products and recipes that 291 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: we grew up eatings, things that are part of our heritage. 292 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: So we see ourselves as a Mexican American food brand. 293 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: So you can really expand a lot from there. Waits 294 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: um Okay. So one of the things I love about 295 00:18:58,560 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: you guys and what I think I feel like I 296 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: can call you all friends now is come down to 297 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: Austin a couple of times, and like I said earlier, 298 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: your family is just so welcoming. Like the first time 299 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: we came, everyone was so like greeted us with open arms, 300 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: And it's just this part. I feel like it's just 301 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: such an open arms would be that the one thing 302 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: that comes to mind and everyone is just so welcoming. 303 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: So how did that? How is that? Like? How does 304 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: that happen? I don't feel like that happens anymore in 305 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: this world. And you guys all work together. I think 306 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: it's just what our mom taught us and what it was, 307 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: it's what she learned from her family, from her mother, 308 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: my grandmother. Um. That's kind of the way our household 309 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: always was growing up. Um. You know, we always loved 310 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: sharing meals with people, and our house was My friends 311 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: will tell me this even to this day, like your 312 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: house was like the cool house to go to. Yeah, 313 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: always had a pantry stocked with food and your mom 314 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: let us eat whatever we wanted from there. She always 315 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: made us feel like we were welcome at the dinner 316 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: your table, and I think it's just comes from her. Yeah. 317 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: Even last night we had a dinner at the Science 318 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: A headquarters and then my brother came and your mom 319 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: came over after. She was so sweet, just like, oh 320 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: my gosh, you're Kelly's brother. And she lives in Austin 321 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: as well, so she was like, you should come back anytime, 322 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: like without me, And who is this person? She's like 323 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: an angel because I feel like she has that mentality 324 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: like people are good and let's love people, you know, 325 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: and that's not really something you see every day. So 326 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: tell me, like about like the way your work environment works, 327 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: because it's your whole family. You have other people in 328 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: now and I love y'all's like motto. Uh yeah, So 329 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: you're referring to our first core value, which is family first, family, second, 330 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: business third. Yeah, and then if you were walking into 331 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: the office, you would see the juntos essement hood. Um, 332 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: what does that mean? Let's let you guess, um something 333 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: about togetherness. After a couple of sequelas lot, it would 334 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: be better. And but I mean, are making together together 335 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: is better? Okay? That makes sense? Yeah, So I think 336 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: that um, we you know, so there's nine people from 337 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: the family that work for the business, but we have 338 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: thirty plus people that work in the business. And I 339 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: think that as we've UM hired people, we've taken that approach. 340 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: Like when we said we about two or three years ago, 341 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: we set out and we said, okay, well what our 342 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: core values and the first one that kept coming up 343 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: was family. But it was family as it relates to UM, 344 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: like how you bring people in and how you take 345 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: care of people, and less about like what you're last 346 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: name is or whether you're a blood relatively, So I 347 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: think what we've found is like families very um families, messy, 348 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: families hard, but family is also like one of them, 349 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: like greatest blessings you can bestow on somebody, but also 350 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: that you can receive as a person, and that if 351 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: you treat people in a certain way UM that ideally 352 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: it creates an environment where they do feel like they're 353 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: a part of the family. And the reason it's family first, 354 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: family second business there it is because we wanted to 355 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: make it a point that the first goal is to 356 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: accomplish this thing that we're doing together, and that business 357 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: will take care of itself if we're doing it together, 358 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: and that will never sacrifice the collective to advance the businesses. 359 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: That makes sense, Yes, you'll never sacrifice kind of what's 360 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: the family? The family like what's good for everyone else. 361 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: I read about y'all's bio and you said your grandmother 362 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: that was her constantly. Family was always first, regardless of 363 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: what was going on in life. She was always thinking, 364 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: how does that affect my family? So that's how you 365 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: operate your business. Yes, with your employees even yes, their family. 366 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: Now to right, how many employees do you guys? Have? 367 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: You know too? And nine of them are family members 368 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: and then the rest are adopted family. Is that okay? 369 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: And if you visit one more time, I'm a family 370 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: so right now I'm a mante to friends status next 371 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: time family. So in the office, we have a binder, 372 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: I have people's faces and names. Okay, when they get 373 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: the third gold star that puts them in the family. 374 00:23:53,160 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 1: So I have to right now hashta goals? Okay, Uh 375 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: yeah I was. I actually just think it's so interesting. 376 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: You know, I'm obviously like sort of a way on 377 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: way smaller scale running a business people who work for me, 378 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: and it's I love that mentality though, because it's you're 379 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: taking care of the people into the business does take 380 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: care of itself. How do you guys, like, do y'all 381 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: have a fight as a family. I think about working 382 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: with my family and I'm like, oh my god, we 383 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: would kill each other. We do? Tell me about that? 384 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: Or like, how do you is around? Yeah? So when 385 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: we were growing up, my mom didn't let us fight. Um, 386 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: what do you mean so, because everybody fights right like 387 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: you even said family is messy. So she would she 388 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: would do this thing that if we were in an argument, 389 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: she would force whoever was in that argument to go 390 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 1: to the other room, sit on the sofa together and 391 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: hug and hug it out, like literally hug it out 392 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: for ten minutes. That's so so she wants forced us 393 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: to hug anymore. But she's still around. Maybe she should 394 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: like it cuts out. Yeah, we couldn't that again. I 395 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: mean I just always think about, how do you guys 396 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: not take home because we're also we haven't mentioned that. 397 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 1: Alex Well, Alexandra, So you have two names too. You know, 398 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: this is Mike's wife and you also work in the company. 399 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: I'm the marketing manager at SEA. I joined a little 400 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: over a year and a half ago, and before that 401 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: I said I would never join a family business where 402 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: I look where you are. How do you guys not 403 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: take like family? You take it home? You do It's 404 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: all I would say, like it it so I think 405 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: it's really great and I think that it is. Like 406 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: I said, it's an incredible blessing and UM you take 407 00:25:55,520 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: it as that. And it's great to accomplish things UM 408 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: as a unit and as a team and as a family. 409 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: But I will also say, because I think it would 410 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: be a lie if we didn't say it that. It's 411 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: also it's almost like like how people would describe a marriage, 412 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: like it takes work. UM, So you have to be intentional. 413 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing. It's you have to 414 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: understand UM, and you have to be you have to 415 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: be understanding. And it kind of relates to some of 416 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: our other core values UM so like being compassionate UM 417 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: is important to us. Um being bold is important to us. 418 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: So it's I think it's both difficult but also amazing 419 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: that you get to take the work home because you're 420 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: just so passionate about making it happen. But at the 421 00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: same time, there are UM instances where you may get 422 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: into an argument about something or you have a disagreement 423 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: about something, But the best thing is that it's like 424 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: if if people have at the foundation of their being 425 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: love for one another, then if that foundation strong enough 426 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: than anything that you pile on top of that, like 427 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: when you get back to the foundation, um, you're able 428 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: to overcome it. So I think it's a it's a 429 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: fun challenge because it's not uh, sunshine and rainbows every day, 430 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: but um, it's also an incredible gift because you, like, 431 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: we are able to come together and even grow closer 432 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: as the business grows, because we've decided that it is 433 00:27:55,040 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: much more. It'll be a a bigger deal to us 434 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 1: if we can accomplish this as a unit rather than 435 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: let's say, becoming the next um uber. Like the aspirations 436 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: are that we would stick together and accomplish something and 437 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: not just accomplish something. So if you're intentional about those things, 438 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: then I think you're able to like just get through anything. 439 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: Family first, family fires business there, I mean family first, family, 440 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: second business there a skip second? Okay, where can where 441 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: can people find your products? Because I actually I post 442 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: about all the time on Instagram because I'm eating it 443 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: constantly and people are like, where can I get that? 444 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: And I don't really know what to tell them, honestly, 445 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: Whole Foods right were nationwide definitely in Whole Foods, a 446 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: lot of other natural grocery stores, and now even in 447 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: a lot of conventional grocery store wors Um wherever you're at, 448 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: HV HVS are now and select Walmart. Okay, and if 449 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: all else fails, we sell products on our website. I do, Okay. 450 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: I was asking that if there's a store locator on 451 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: the website, it generally gives you kind of the stores 452 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: in your areas. Okay, but quick clug, you can always 453 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: ask your kind of local buyer manager at the store. 454 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: And customers do really have power and so like you 455 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: don't sell this? Can you sell this? They do look 456 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: into it, and we're also working on it back room 457 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: to that's good dinner, so we can push people. Yes, 458 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: soe dot com though if you ever dot com dot 459 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: coms like a gambling see you again, like special different 460 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: directions here see foods dot com. Okay, Well, thank you 461 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: guys so much. This is and I'll come back again 462 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: so I can be a party head. I think you're 463 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: already party from thank you Alex together bad it was 464 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: a trick together bad already do well? I do need 465 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: uh fashionate advice? So that is sure that this is Yeah, 466 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: this is a battle that Mike and I have actually 467 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: though you try to give me, but you will work 468 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: on my shoes. Yesterday you didn't even notice. What an asshole? 469 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: Aren't you starting a fashion blogger? Do styling and groom? Yes? Really? Okay, 470 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: so like the male Verdi, what's your I don't have 471 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: one yet? Don't put me on the spot. Other corner 472 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: I think we need to bring that. I'll take over 473 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: the ct A Business podcast. All right, sounds good to me, 474 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: I mean actually would be the game for that. All right, 475 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening, and there guys 476 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: for being here. Bye.