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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number four.

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Speaker 1: Today we're gonna be talking about white Tail spring cleaning,

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Speaker 1: and by that I mean the projects that you and

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Speaker 1: I should be working on this spring to prepare ourselves

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Speaker 1: for the two thousand fourteen season. By the end of

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Speaker 1: this episode, you'll be motivated to get to work and

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Speaker 1: you'll be armed with new ideas to take to the

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Speaker 1: woods to you the music All right with me today?

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Speaker 1: On this Wednesday afternoon is Mr Dan Johnson? What's happened

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Speaker 1: to my friend? You know what, I'm pretty excited. I

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Speaker 1: got Friday off work and me and the wife are

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Speaker 1: gonna go turkey hunting Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. It's a

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Speaker 1: second season in Iowa. We're gonna chase some gobblers and

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Speaker 1: hopefully they cooperate. I'm jealous we are. Season here in

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Speaker 1: Michigan doesn't open until Monday, so I'm gonna be sitting

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Speaker 1: here all weekend thinking about you and those thunder chickens

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Speaker 1: are My wife shot her first beard or her first beard?

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Speaker 1: What am I talking about? She shot? She shot her

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Speaker 1: first turkey last year, and uh, she was she's addicted now,

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Speaker 1: she was so excited. Now, don't try to get her

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Speaker 1: to hunt a deer because they're too cute. She has

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Speaker 1: no problem killing an ugly animal. Thanks, Turkey have ugly faces,

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Speaker 1: and she has no problem shooting something that's ugly. That's

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Speaker 1: that's funny. It's, you know, the same thing with Kylie,

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Speaker 1: my wife. She she has no interest in hunting deer,

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Speaker 1: but she has gone with the turkey hunting a few

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Speaker 1: times and she's just filmed and kind of been along

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Speaker 1: for the ride. But actually this year she's said that

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Speaker 1: she wants to try at her too, So maybe we'll

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Speaker 1: be able to have Kylie shoot her first beard too.

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Speaker 1: Long day at the office, Yeah, I guess so. Man.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad she's not shooting beers because given what you've

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Speaker 1: got in your face, usually that could be dangerous. Well,

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Speaker 1: there are days where I'm sure she wants to yeah,

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Speaker 1: marriage right, right, Oh goodness, yeah, right now, I'm just

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Speaker 1: wishing we had warm weather again. We had a couple

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Speaker 1: of nice days past weekend, and now today and yesterday

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Speaker 1: it's back into like the twenties and thirties. So it's

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Speaker 1: feeling it's feeling rough over here, but I'm ready to

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Speaker 1: start enjoying spring weather and turkey hunting and all that

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Speaker 1: good stuff. Yeah. Where I'm at right now, it's fifty

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Speaker 1: seven degrees outside, and it looks like this weekend is

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Speaker 1: going to be mid fifties to mid sixties. I think

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Speaker 1: maybe Sunday or Saturday it might get up, might get

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Speaker 1: up into the like low seventies. But yeah, this has

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Speaker 1: just been a crazy year for weather. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: el Nino or something must be happening. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is, I don't like it. It's been it's

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Speaker 1: been rough. But um but yeah, good times their head. Um,

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Speaker 1: so I guess let's start talking about let's start talking

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Speaker 1: about white tails. Let's do it. That's usually what's on

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Speaker 1: our mind, isn't it every day? So so that said, then, UM,

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll get right into the meat potatoes of

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Speaker 1: what I want to talk about today, and that's spring cleaning.

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Speaker 1: And that's not really what most people would think about

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Speaker 1: when we say spring clean. What we're actually gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about today, Dan is the projects and the work that

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Speaker 1: we should be doing right now is white Tail Hunters.

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Speaker 1: That's going to better prepare us for the hunting season.

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Speaker 1: And today on the wire hunt blog, actually I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you saw it yet, Dan, but I posted

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Speaker 1: an article called the Secret to killing big Bucks, and

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Speaker 1: the point of this article was that there actually isn't

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Speaker 1: a secret. There's no fancy strategy or special tactic that's

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Speaker 1: gonna you know, be that magic bullet instead if you

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Speaker 1: want to kill mature bucks, you know, I think it

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Speaker 1: really comes right down to just getting off your tail

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Speaker 1: and doing the hard work and then of that scouting

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Speaker 1: or stand preparation or knocking on doors, practicing with your bow.

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Speaker 1: You know, the list can go on and on, but

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Speaker 1: the point I was trying to making is that a

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Speaker 1: So today what I want to talk about where some

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Speaker 1: of those projects and tasks that you and I are

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Speaker 1: doing right now to get prepared, and you know, some

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Speaker 1: of these different ideas that maybe the listeners would want

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Speaker 1: Does that sound sound decent to you? It seems like

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Speaker 1: the list never really ends it just it. Uh, it's

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Speaker 1: a continuous improvement type of thing. Yeah, so true, so true.

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Speaker 1: And kind of speaking of that, what I actually decided

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Speaker 1: So actually, just a few weeks ago, I put together

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Speaker 1: a list that I'm actually writing out all the different

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Speaker 1: to like prioritize it, so I'm putting into order of

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Speaker 1: the next, and then even trying to sign like deadlines.

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Speaker 1: I know this sounds kind of um, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I've got my work background is coming to play maybe

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Speaker 1: too much here, but I'm trying to organize myself, I guess,

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Speaker 1: to get more done. Um, because it's just so easy

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Speaker 1: to say I'm going to do all these things and

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Speaker 1: and you don't end up doing it. But that's just

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Speaker 1: me yep, that's uh, that's a good a good thing

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Speaker 1: to do. I'm kind of because I do live an

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Speaker 1: to schedule my trips down there as well to get

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, try to knock out as much

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Speaker 1: looking at your h the notes here, and I see

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Speaker 1: that some of these things I won't do until later

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Speaker 1: right now. And it's not like a spring thing. It's

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Speaker 1: a continuous list that runs through the summer even into

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Speaker 1: the early fall, right before hunting season even starts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a great point. Um. A lot of these things,

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Speaker 1: need to be done all through that period. So that's

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Speaker 1: a that's an awesome point. That said that, is there

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Speaker 1: anything that you've started working on yet or that you're

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Speaker 1: planning on doing soon? Dan, Well, typically, and because I'm

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Speaker 1: already going to be down there this weekend for um Turkey,

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Speaker 1: do a lot of running gun um I haven't had

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Speaker 1: I've hunted archery, turkeys before. But my style that I

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Speaker 1: And while I'm doing that, I'm always looking for deer sign,

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Speaker 1: always looking for crossings, you know, kind of what Dan

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Speaker 1: I'm out there scouting looking for deer sign every time

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Speaker 1: mineral stations ready. I'm gonna be putting mineral out. I'm

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Speaker 1: there is kind of a health benefit towards some of

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Speaker 1: the minerals that are out on the market. But I'm

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Speaker 1: looking strictly for what bucks are in my area and

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Speaker 1: so as far as what's going to happen in the

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Speaker 1: nearer future, it's scouting mineral stations. That's Uh, there's like

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Speaker 1: about nineteen different things I could talk about on those

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Speaker 1: So for me, I always take what I've learned from

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Speaker 1: the last season and make my adjustments towards the new season,

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Speaker 1: the next upcoming season. So I'm going to the areas

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Speaker 1: where I've had historically historically good luck, but I've also

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Speaker 1: am looking around those areas to see if there's entring

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Speaker 1: remember that shed I found on that bench crossing this year.

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Speaker 1: That is a huge pinch point. And there's that river

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Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be that pinch point. Yeah no, I

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Speaker 1: it's it's kind of hard because my property lays big.

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Speaker 1: And so this year there's a couple of stands I

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Speaker 1: because you know, I always saw a deer there, and

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Speaker 1: they've seem like good areas. But you know, when it

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Speaker 1: comes right down to it, if you can't get a shot,

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Speaker 1: and given some of the sign I saw this year,

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Speaker 1: I think that I'm now going to be able to

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Speaker 1: get that shot opportunity that's evaded me so far. So

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Speaker 1: this spring a little bit more, is just looking for

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Speaker 1: those different ways I can tweet current stand locations. UM.

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Speaker 1: And then I think, you know, when it comes to

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Speaker 1: scouting for me, I also I hunt a few new

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Speaker 1: of reading on this today because I thought about writing

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00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 1: a blog post about it. Um. You know, from what

429
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,360
Speaker 1: I've seen over the years, and then from a lot

430
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 1: of the guys that are a lot smarter than me

431
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 1: who research this stuff, you know, it seems to be

432
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 1: that most people believe that, right these different supplements and

433
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 1: mineral blocks, they probably help, they're probably a good thing,

434
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: and they certainly probably don't hurt. But there hasn't been

435
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: any real substantial, hard evidence that says absolutely sure these

436
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: things definitely increase antler growth or they definitely increase body

437
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: size or anything like that. Isn't that isn't that crazy?

438
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: It is that, And and the crazy thing about it

439
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: is and this kind of gets me back. And I

440
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: know me and you have talked on the side about

441
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,719
Speaker 1: the hunting industry and the pros and the cons and

442
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: all these other things. But a company says bigger bucks

443
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: or your money back, Well, I mean, how can you

444
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 1: even prove that? Well, that's that's the whole point of it,

445
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: right Dan, is no one can prove it, so that

446
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 1: no one gets the run. Yeah. But okay, So so

447
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: in reading that and looking at you know, I read

448
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: some articles as well, and um, right now, in the

449
00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 1: gestation period of a dough, this timing year is when

450
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 1: they start building up their milk supply and lactating. They

451
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,719
Speaker 1: started the lactation process. I guess now you know, what

452
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying right now is all second hand information from

453
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 1: the place that I read it. But some you know,

454
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 1: some of these minerals are they claim to have nutritional value.

455
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: Some of them claim to pretty much just be attractives

456
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: to get bucks or deer in front of your trail cameras.

457
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: But the way I look at it is, you know,

458
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: if it didn't have some type of nutritional value or

459
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: it didn't benefit them, then why do they continually come

460
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: back to that location? I don't know. And the way

461
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: I the way I look at it is, have you

462
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: ever been deprived of carbohydrates and your your body is

463
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: craving like chips or um something crunchy, and you have

464
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 1: that feeling that you need something. Yeah? Yeah, let me

465
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: take a really quick um off topic run here because

466
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: it's a great story. One time in college I was

467
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: stand up all night to study for a test and

468
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 1: I drank to Monster Energy drinks. Bad idea, right, I

469
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 1: drank two Monster Energy drinks in like four hours, and

470
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: I was up to like six in the morning. Finally

471
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: got done. Try to go to bed at six and

472
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 1: the more, and to get a couple of hours of

473
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: sleep before my test, like at nine, and I laid

474
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Speaker 1: in bed like shaking, and I had I had this

475
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 1: and I had this craving just that you just talked about,

476
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Speaker 1: like I needed carbs. So I had a box of

477
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: Goldfish crackers, a whole box, like not the little like

478
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 1: court bag, but the full box of them. And I swear,

479
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 1: I swear to goodness, I ate the entire box in

480
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: one helping and like fifteen minutes, just sitting in my

481
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Speaker 1: bunk bed in my loft in my dorm room, just

482
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: hammering these goldfish crackers would be so it was, and

483
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: that that's my my one diet tribe off topic today.

484
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: So sorry, No, that's that's I mean. So, you know,

485
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: so you would think that they come to it for

486
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: a reason, and just because it smells good doesn't mean

487
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: they're going to continually eat it. It must The way

488
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: I look at it is it must have some kind

489
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: of value that they need, you know, because in nature,

490
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: you're either a necessity or you're not. You know, nature

491
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: is more black and white. I think, you know, if

492
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: there there's not, there's not luxuries. It's either life or death.

493
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: You need this or you don't need it, and that's

494
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: you know, that's I don't know, it's just kind of

495
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 1: a crazy idea I have. And if and the benefit is,

496
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: you know, if you get a big buck in front

497
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: of your camera, that's awesome too. Yeah, no, I agree.

498
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: I think I tend to be with you on that too. Um.

499
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: You know, there's nothing absolutely substantially proved about what these

500
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: minerals are different things to do, but I think, like

501
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 1: you said, it can't I don't think it can hurt.

502
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,479
Speaker 1: I think it does help and in some maybe intangible way,

503
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: and heck, I'm happy to help these deer out in

504
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: any way I can. Um, So I'll put it out there.

505
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: And like you said, then for sure there's some that

506
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: are just attracted for the most part, and they work

507
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: great for what they need to do, like getting pictures.

508
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: So so yeah, good points all the way around. UM.

509
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 1: What about another thing we we you sort of touched

510
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: on a little bit earlier, um when you mentioned access,

511
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you're doing any of this

512
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: this time of year at all either, Um, But what

513
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do right now, one of the things

514
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: on my list for the next couple of weeks is

515
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: trying to prep some entry and exit routes. Um. We

516
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: talked about this a little bit, probably, I think it

517
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: was episode number one about how you learned in that

518
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: one spot how you need to have a different access

519
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: route to get to your stand without bumping deer, right. Um.

520
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: So that's something I'm trying to figure out right now,

521
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: is where the areas of my property where I have

522
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: been spooking deer coming in and out, and then what

523
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: can I do differently in that travel way or travel

524
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: path or whatever it might be to get there without

525
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: having that that conflict. UM. I think this is another

526
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 1: topic we could talk about for hours, because entry and exit,

527
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: I think is something that most are a lot of

528
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: hunters overlook. I know I did for a really long time.

529
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: You know. I just I just walked right into my

530
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: stand and the quickest way to get there, and I

531
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: walked right out in the evening, and I was spoken

532
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: deer all the time, and I didn't think it was

533
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: a big deal. I always thought, you know, after dark,

534
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: before daylight, no big deal. But you know, the more

535
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: I've gotten into this, and I think the more you

536
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: get serious about hunting these older deer, you find out

537
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: that any type of interaction like that can educate a

538
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: mature deer and can you know, hurt your chances of

539
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: ever seeing him during daylight again. So so that's something

540
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do right now, finding those spots where

541
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: maybe I can clear path or just make a path

542
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: a little easier. I'm gonna go through a couple of

543
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: the areas that I have um and actually had a

544
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 1: little backpack sprayer with some round up in it, and

545
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: just try to kill off a little bit of vegetation

546
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: right on my footpath so that that's one less thing

547
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: that can make noise when I'm going in and out

548
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: this fall. Um, and I know that some of that,

549
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna have to touch up again later

550
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: this year, but just little things like that, trying to

551
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: do a little bit more to give me just a

552
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: touch a bit more of a quiet exit and entry. Um,

553
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: do you do you work on that or are you

554
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: planning on doing anything like that this year? Well, you know,

555
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: I think since our lab, since the very first podcast

556
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: and where I did talk about, you know, that learning

557
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: experience I had with UM, that area that was holding

558
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: all the big deer, So I I was proactive. I

559
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: called the landowner and I said, hey, that I hunt

560
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: right along this this river it's right or something more

561
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,239
Speaker 1: of a creek. It was real low so you can

562
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: cross it at certain times. And I said, do you

563
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: mind if I parked my truck on your property and

564
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: come in from the opposite side to my hunting stand. Well,

565
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: the answer was no, I did. I'm not He said,

566
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: I would rather not do that, So you know, you

567
00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: gotta respect his word. So I the only other option

568
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: is is to come in from a completely different direction.

569
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: And we're talking. You know a lot of people say, well,

570
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: like I walk a mile to my tree stand. Okay,

571
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: walking a mile in a with a backpack on, with

572
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: a tree stand on your back, sometimes with a bow

573
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: in hand. You know, I can walk a mile on

574
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: a treadmill, probably in a comfortable walk, not too fast,

575
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,719
Speaker 1: not too slow, maybe ten minutes, it sounds right. Okay,

576
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: Now you add all those obstacles to rain, you know

577
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna take you a long time to walk a

578
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: mile to a tree stand. With that said, you know

579
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: there there are limited options, and you know, if you

580
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: want to be extreme about it, you can do that.

581
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: You know, will I do that? I don't know. We'll see.

582
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: We'll see if a buck deserves that first. Yeah, it's tough.

583
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: It's gosh a lot of times, like you said, if

584
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: you want to get in there through the bad door

585
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: or whatever way it is, to avoid being, you know,

586
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: an interaction with those deer before you want to, you

587
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: gotta go way out of your way. Sometimes I've got

588
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: a situation just like you mentioned where on one of

589
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: my main properties. If I want to get to the

590
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: back of that property to hunt some of this high

591
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: ger on back there, I have to walk all the

592
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: way through all the good stuff. So I went and

593
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: asked the neighbor, just like you asked for permission to

594
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: access my property from the back, just passing through their property.

595
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: And this this family, they don't hunt, they don't do

596
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: anything on that property. So I thought would be okay,

597
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: and I got permission to do that. Um. But then

598
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: later that year, turns out their neighbor UM didn't end

599
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: up liking the fact that I guess they hunted. So

600
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: they didn't like the fact that I was walking by

601
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: their property and they put the kabash on that. So

602
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: now I'm kind of stuck in a in a similar

603
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: situation where I don't have a lot of great options,

604
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: and because of that, I've almost stopped hunting that area

605
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: completely because I'd rather not hunt it at all, even

606
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: though it looks like a great spot and it has,

607
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, has a lot of potential. I'm getting the

608
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: point now where I'd rather not going to a great

609
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: area if I know I'm going to spook a bunch

610
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: of deer, I'd rather not make that or risk that,

611
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: because it just can hurt your hunting so much. I think. Yeah,

612
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: And the scenario that I have is the creek makes

613
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: a giant you so this piece this little section in

614
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: strips to timber that I'd like to hunt in this

615
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: edge it's almost a peninsula. So other than cutting right

616
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: through the middle of it to get to a stand location,

617
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: you have got to drop down into a wash out

618
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: and get to a creek, walk all the way up

619
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: and around to where you want to be. And you know,

620
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: it's just something that I that you know, it's pretty

621
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: much you just got to do it. If you want

622
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: to hunt there and come in undetected, you just gotta

623
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, yeah, I know those having a creek

624
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: or something like that is so perfect when they're there.

625
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: It's great because that makes just a perfect, perfect access route.

626
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: You can be low, out of sight, you're not going

627
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: to leave scent because you're walking through the water. It's

628
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: pretty quiet. I love it when I've got a property

629
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: with that kind of access route, unless unless there's like

630
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: eight ft of water in it. You don't like swimming

631
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: tears standard late November be a little chilly, yeah, it

632
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: would similarly to mid February. I've swam in that river

633
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: that you're talking about or one of them. Cold that's

634
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: what it is. Um. There's a there's a pretty good

635
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: book actually on this topic that I just read earlier

636
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: this year. Um. It's by Bill winky who you know

637
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: is the creator of Midwest Whitetail dot com. Um. The

638
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: book's called I Think Trophy Terrain Volume one, and it's

639
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: Creeks and Ditches is what it's called. It's a small book, um,

640
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: but it talks pretty much just about this, talking about

641
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: how you can use ditches and creeks to better hunt deer.

642
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: And a big part of that is is understanding how

643
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: you can use those to get in and out of

644
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: your stands. UM. So that's something I recommend people check out.

645
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: I enjoyed. That's quick read. But there's a couple of

646
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 1: good pointers I got out of that that I think

647
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: I'll be able to use more this year too. So

648
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: we'll put a link to that in the show notes

649
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: if anybody wants to check that out. And that's the

650
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: that's the crazy thing, Like, that's one experience from Bill Winkie.

651
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, Dan last week talked about his

652
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: experience with the marsh buck or the hill country bucks

653
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: from some of the other DVDs that he's put out.

654
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: But as a hunter, you have to be able to

655
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: be to observe your surroundings and make educated guesses on

656
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: your property. I mean you can't. You can't read a

657
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: book about creek access and then expect to use those

658
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: same principles going into a giant timber scenario. You know, Um,

659
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: you have to be able to read those principles and

660
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: apply it to your scenario. So it's you know, and

661
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: that's one thing that a lot of these a lot

662
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: of hunters, and if you're listening today, that you really

663
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: should take away from these podcasts is slow down, observe

664
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: your surrounding, and make an educated guess on what you

665
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: have in front of you, because you know, these guys

666
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: are get these quote unquote professionals or people with more experience,

667
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: and these guys have killed some giant deer. They you know,

668
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: they have their story to tell and you have to

669
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: be able to apply it to to your you're hunting situation. Yeah,

670
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: it's so true. I think it's everything is different, right,

671
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: All of our situations are different. We've got a different

672
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: hand of cards dealt to each one of us. And

673
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: what I try to do, like you said, is is

674
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: learn look at these different experiences or stories or recommendations

675
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: that guys have trying to see what the basic principle

676
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: is there, and then like you said, figure out what

677
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: that is or maybe it's a system or whatever, and

678
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: apply that to your circumstances. Um. I think that's huge.

679
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: And then you know, the other thing kind of tying

680
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: into what my what my blog post again was today

681
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: is lots of times will we'll hear these things, will

682
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: read these things, and we're like, yeah, that makes a

683
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: lot of sense, I should do that. But so many

684
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: times I'm guilty of this is I'll you know, read

685
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: fifty different great ideas and things I should do, but

686
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: then when it gets to hunting season, I just fall

687
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: back into the same old, same old what's easy, you know,

688
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: What's what I'm used to. It's a lot more difficult

689
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: to actually implement those great ideas that you talk about

690
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: or that you read about. Um, it's a lot easier

691
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: to to kind of forget about and fall back into

692
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: the routine. Um. So that's something that just again kind

693
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: of like what I talked about earlier in this uh

694
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: in the show today is what I'm trying to do

695
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: is make myself accountable with these things. So I'm trying to,

696
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, write out these specific goals. So whether it

697
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: be you know, work I want to do earlier in

698
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: the year, like these different projects we've been talking about today,

699
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: or if it's a change in my strategy or something

700
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: I really want to do differently this hunting season. I'm

701
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: trying to find ways to hold myself accountable to make

702
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: those changes. So this is just a system that works

703
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: for me. But for me, I needed to write things down.

704
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: When I write things down and check back on it later,

705
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: that works for me, and it helps me, you know,

706
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: stick to it and actually make progress on it. So again,

707
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm setting these goals so that later in

708
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: the year I can look back out and say, Okay, Mark,

709
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: don't be an idiot. You told you wrote down you

710
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: know that you can't walk out across the open field

711
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: at night. You gotta take the background in. And then

712
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: you know, even though I'm cold, even though I'm tired,

713
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: even though I'm really hungry, and I just want to

714
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: give it to the truck. When I am frequently looking

715
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,959
Speaker 1: back at these things that I'm telling myself I gotta

716
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: do it and reminding myself, I'm much more likely to

717
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: do the right thing versus the easy thing. So it's

718
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: almost like you wish you had a tattoo on your

719
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: hand on your wrift somewhere that said no shortcuts, and

720
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: that that because, I mean some of some people out

721
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: there may have a they get a hunt or just weekends.

722
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: Or for me, I take two weeks off every November

723
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: and I hunt straight through that. There's there's guys out

724
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: there who hunt way longer than that. But going into

725
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 1: week two, I am sleep deprived. I'm exhausted. That starts

726
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: to be when I'm starting to fall asleep in the stand. Um,

727
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: all those things. It's just like I wish I had

728
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: a little angel or a little version of my mom

729
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: on my shoulder slapping me in the back of the head.

730
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: It's saying, what are you thinking? What are you doing?

731
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: Your mom doesn't sound like that? Well, I know, but

732
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 1: you know I gotta make or sound more like a mom. Yeah,

733
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: I know. No, I wish I had the same thing.

734
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: That's so true. Um, And this is another another link

735
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 1: off to post in the show notes. There's an article

736
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: that we put out last year. Um, it's actually in

737
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw it, Dan, but we

738
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: released an e book last fall called The Rules of

739
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: the Rut. There was a compilation of different rut related

740
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: tips and articles and stuff, and one of those was

741
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: about the mental challenge of hunting the rut and for

742
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, for you and me when we're hunting like

743
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: two weeks straight all day, that is grueling. But really

744
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: the basic idea that can apply anytime during the season. Right,

745
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: it's like you said, not taking the shortcuts, it's sticking

746
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 1: to it. It's you know, staying focused, staying motivated, keeping

747
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: a positive attitude. All those things can be really tough

748
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: to do, especially you know after hunting for ten straight days, um,

749
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: but really at any point of the year, or you know,

750
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: in December, after you've hunted a lot all year, you

751
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: still haven't got your deer. Things have been going bad.

752
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: I think you're having that stick tuitiveness and that persistence

753
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: and attitude. Gosh, it makes a huge difference. Yep. It's uh,

754
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: it's a never ending it's a it's a never ending thing, man.

755
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: It's just always moving forward, always learning. And you know,

756
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: and that's the thing that I'm starting to learn as

757
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: and it's taken me. It took me. You know, I

758
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: didn't seriously start hunting until two thousand and six. Okay,

759
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: Now I hunted way before that, but I didn't. I

760
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: was that person who, probably, like a majority of the hunters,

761
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: are you set, you said, set a ladder stand up

762
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year. You're set in that

763
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: one stand, or you go to another stand that you've

764
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: previously set up. You may not have cut shooting lanes,

765
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: but it's there, that stands there, and you go back

766
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: to a year after year after year, and you get

767
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: into a rut, and then you know. I think two

768
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: thousand and six is when I was introduced to serious

769
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: hunting um and into some of the hunting industry, and

770
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: I was exposed to talking with other hunters who were successful,

771
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: and you know, talking to them, reading articles, you know,

772
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: and being able to judge which article was trying to

773
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,959
Speaker 1: sell you something and as opposed to trying to teach

774
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: you something. So and knowing that has in my opinion,

775
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: even though I haven't killed the line a lot of

776
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: giant deer, I I have become a better hunter because

777
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: I am learning from every hunt. Yeah yeah, and gosh,

778
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: we're coming up on time here, so I can't talk

779
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: too much on this, but I want to jump on

780
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: something you just said there because it's super important and

781
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: the fact that you just said that. You know, you

782
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: didn't start really getting serious about this stuff until two

783
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: thousand and six. And you know, I'm not too different

784
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: from that either. I hunted my entire life since I

785
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: was like three years old. I've been in a deer

786
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: blind But you know, the way I learned and the

787
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: way I grew up, it was just like that, go

788
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: out there, sit in a bucket or sitting a tree

789
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: stand in the same spot, you know, set that same

790
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: area time and time and time again, because there was

791
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,959
Speaker 1: one scrape right in front of that tree stand or whatever, um,

792
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: And it wasn't until gosh, for me, it might have

793
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: been right around the same time two thousand, six thousand

794
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: seven somewhere on there um where I started taking it

795
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: to that next level and started trying to hunt a

796
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: little bit differently and focus on a different type of deer.

797
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: But while that's when we made that, you know, you

798
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: and I made that jump at that point, people are

799
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: coming into this thing at different skill levels and different experiences,

800
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: and that's okay. Um. You know, we talked a lot

801
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: about hunting mature deer, and in your case, right you

802
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: mentioned that you saw a hundred and fifty inch deer

803
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: and you weren't sure if you wanted to shoot it.

804
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: And that's because you've had where you hunt in the

805
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: experiences you've had to put you in a position where

806
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: you're willing to do that. But for me, you know,

807
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: if I saw a hundred fifty buck, given where I

808
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: am on my experience ladder, I'll call it. You know,

809
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: I'm on that rung of the ladder. If I saw

810
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: a hundred fifty deer, I'm shooting it. And then you know,

811
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: there might be somebody else, like my buddy Josh, who

812
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: I just got into hunting, uh, you know a handful

813
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,479
Speaker 1: of years ago, if he saw a d ten inch buck,

814
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: he might want to shoot that deer because that'd be

815
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: a great deer for him at this point. And I

816
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: just want to make a point to all the listeners

817
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: out there that that's okay. You know, wherever you're at,

818
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: that's great. And what I would just say is, you know,

819
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: find when you're what you're happy with. And for some guys,

820
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: they just want to shoot a deer for me, and

821
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna judgment. I'm not gonna say that's wrong,

822
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: that's fine, that's perfectly great. I do too, Um, So

823
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: if you want to shoot a small buck or a doe,

824
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: that's okay. If you want to do something different, if

825
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: you want to hold out for maturity or that's great too,

826
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: and that's fine. I think that people just need to

827
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: make sure they come into the right expectations. Um. You know, today,

828
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: if you're watching TV and you see everybody's shooting a

829
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy boone and crack a buck, that's not

830
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: something that you need to think that you can realistically

831
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: do and and you shouldn't be disappointed when you can't. Um,

832
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: At least for me, I like to look at as

833
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: if you want to reach a goal, work on making

834
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: an incremental step toward it every year, every once in

835
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: a while, but don't feel bad that you can't get

836
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: that ultimate goal right away. And you know, it's like

837
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: my stepdad, he is uh, if it's a brown, it's

838
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 1: down type of hunter, and if it makes him happy,

839
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, go for it. And you know, I go

840
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: to some of these trade shows and I hear some

841
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: of these people say things like, well, you know, if

842
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 1: I don't shoot him, my neighbor will well, I don't

843
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: have another second for that person, because I don't like excuses.

844
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: You know, you are part of the problem if you

845
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: don't have that. You know, this is this is I'm

846
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: getting off on a tangent because this is another This

847
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: is obviously another topic that we could go on as

848
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: far as management principles and whatnot. But you know, you

849
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: gotta do what's happy. If if shooting a dough for

850
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: a small buck makes you happy, do it. Just you know,

851
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: the only person you have to answer to is yourself. Yeah, yep,

852
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: And I think, like you said, we're definitely have to

853
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: have a whole another episode just about this. Um. But

854
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: tagging onto what you just said, the guys that say, well,

855
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: if I don't shoot it my neighbor, well, if that

856
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: guy wants to shoot that deer, and like you said,

857
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: if that makes them happy, okay, shoot it. That's great. Um.

858
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: But if he's shooting it just because he claims his

859
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: neighbor is going to shoot it, And then again, I

860
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: like to say, well, okay, if you don't shoot that deer,

861
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: what percent chance do you think it has that the

862
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: neighbor is going to shoot it. Maybe maybe if he

863
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: thinks his neighbor is really a heck of a hunter

864
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: and he's gonna shoot anything, maybe fifty, maybe one. I

865
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: have two times that dear might make it. In reality,

866
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: it's probably a lot less than that. But let's say

867
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: he's well. Then I asked him, what's the percent chance

868
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: that deer is going to live if you shoot it? Well? Zero?

869
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: So if you do want that deer to make it

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00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: to an older age class, saying that you're just gonna

871
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 1: shoot it because the neighbor is gonna that, that doesn't

872
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: make any sense at all. He has a lot better

873
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: chance if you let him go. Um. So, I guess

874
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: that's just what I would say to anyone who wants

875
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: to see older deer and who is targeting that older

876
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: age class. You gotta let him go. You can't make

877
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: those excuses. But then again, if you're okay shooting a

878
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: you're in a half old deer. And if that's what

879
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: you want to do, okay, but don't but don't tell

880
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: me you're doing it because your neighbor is going to Yeah, well,

881
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: we definitely went off on tangent there. We should probably

882
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: shut her down. Mark, I think you're right. I think

883
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: you're right. Anything else, though, do you think we need

884
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: to we need to add before before doing that? No,

885
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: I think we're good to go, and uh, you know,

886
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm already taking notes for next week. So um, yeah,

887
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: I hope, you know, I hop hope that the people

888
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: who are listening tell their friends and uh or at

889
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: least you know, like, I don't claim to be a

890
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: professional anything except I used to hold a record at

891
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: Pizza Hut for most trips to the buffet. Uh, so

892
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: I would consider myself an expert on that. But anything

893
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: else take with a grain of salt, because like, you know,

894
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: like we said, you know, you're hunting properties and your

895
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: scenarios are different than ours. Yep, that's that is so true.

896
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: We're all in a different position, We're all have different

897
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: experience levels, different circumstances. So so yeah, we're all gonna

898
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: try to learn along as we go and and get

899
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: better and do it what makes us have a good

900
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: time we're out there hunting. So yeah, this is great.

901
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: I hope this has been helpful for everyone out there

902
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: today too. You know, we covered a little bit about

903
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: different projects we're working on. We talked about, you know,

904
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: that idea of the fact that you really just needed

905
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: sometimes if you're shooting for one of these older deer,

906
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: bigger deer, it's gonna take a lot of hard work.

907
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of the final piece of

908
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: advice i'd like to I guess maybe done here is

909
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: just you know, in the end, you just need to

910
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: do the work, no excuses, no complaining, you know, no procrastination.

911
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: If you really have this goal of shooting maturity or

912
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: whatever it is, your goal is, you make the time

913
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: and put in the effort to make that happen. Um,

914
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: what's that saying? They say that luck is what happens

915
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: when preparation meets opportunity. I think right now, in the

916
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: spring time and the summer, this is the time for

917
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: that preparation. So you know, we gotta get after it.

918
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: We gotta get off our tails and start preparing. So

919
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: that's my rant for the day. Um. That said, though,

920
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: to all the listening, I can't thank you enough. This

921
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: has been awesome. We've gotten really great feedback on the

922
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: podcast so far, just with our first three episodes, and

923
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: we're stoked that you guys are enjoying it, and I

924
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: just really appreciate you taking the time to join us.

925
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Speaker 1: And I think Dan and I both would agree that

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Speaker 1: we're really excited about what's to come. Um, in the

927
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks and months as we get closer

928
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: to the summer and then the hunting season, got some

929
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 1: really cool episodes in store, and um, I'm just excited

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Speaker 1: you guys will be joining us along the way. H

931
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933
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