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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast Today. I

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Speaker 2: am joined by Zachary Reality. He's gonna be filling in

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Speaker 2: for Ben and it's a great episode. Zach for you

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Speaker 2: to be joining us, because you had inside tea about

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Speaker 2: women Tell All. You came on our show last week

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Speaker 2: to give us some of the drama you were experiencing

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Speaker 2: with Carolina about women Tell All, so you probably have

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Speaker 2: more insight than anyone into this, besides the girls that,

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Speaker 2: of course were there.

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Speaker 3: I will say that I had a thank you for

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Speaker 3: having me back. I had a few friends over last night.

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Speaker 3: When she walked off the stage. We all screamed because

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Speaker 3: I did not I wanted her to walk off the

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Speaker 3: stage because you know, she told me she was going

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Speaker 3: to So if they edited that out, I would have

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Speaker 3: looked like a liar.

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Speaker 4: So I was glad that they at least showed it.

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Speaker 3: But I also was glad and interested that they didn't

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Speaker 3: show the backstage of her. You know, she said the

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Speaker 3: cameras followed her. I guess they decided not to air that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So if you guys didn't turn into our show

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Speaker 2: last week, tune into our show. Last week, basically, Zach

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Speaker 2: and Carolina had a little digital feud going on because

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Speaker 2: he aired that somebody went backstage at cameras followed and

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Speaker 2: that it was going to be a dramatic woman till

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Speaker 2: all moment. Well, it actually turned out to be on TV,

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Speaker 2: not very dramatic. She was shown walking off. They don't

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Speaker 2: show what happened actually backstage, and Jesse just said she

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Speaker 2: needed a moment. It was really no big deal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, basically that's what happened, and we're all good. Now

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Speaker 3: we started texting again and water under the bridge, and

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Speaker 3: like I said, you know, I'm not her biggest worry.

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Speaker 3: You know, there was some other girls, so she should

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Speaker 3: be more worried about. So I wasn't her only social

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Speaker 3: media drama last week.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming, though, that you're going to be too scared

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Speaker 2: to give any of her gossip out to the world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's just no point. I'm not going to try

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Speaker 3: for her again or go back and forth. Luckily, you know,

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Speaker 3: since outing that I've talked to her other girls, I've

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Speaker 3: reached forward, and I've gotten some new gossip that I

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Speaker 3: can share anonymously.

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Speaker 4: So oh yeah, give it us.

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Speaker 3: I was just telling your well, I was just telling

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Speaker 3: your producer backstage that they are looking for the next

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Speaker 3: Golden Bachelor, because you know this, They're looking for a

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Speaker 3: fresh guy.

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Speaker 2: A fresh guy interesting, Okay, Yeah, I know somebody who's

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Speaker 2: getting relatively further in the casting as one of the women.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not surprised that it's happening, but I'm interested

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Speaker 2: to know why they're choosing a fresh guy. I think

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Speaker 2: it's because Mark is taken and so is oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: what was his.

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Speaker 4: Name, Jonathan? But Jonathan broke up with his girlfriend.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan broke up with his girlfriend, why wouldn't they choose him.

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Speaker 3: I think they're really looking for a fresh new face,

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Speaker 3: like somebody from anywhere. So if anyone here is listening

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Speaker 3: and you know, wants to nominate their dad or their grandpa,

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Speaker 3: go to Golden Bachelor casting dot com.

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Speaker 4: They are really looking for their main guy.

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Speaker 3: There's like two weeks left and opposedly will film in July,

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Speaker 3: and they already have like thirty thousand women ready to go,

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Speaker 3: So they really are just looking for the right guy.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know if you know anyone, Ashley.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't because I would be setting them up.

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Speaker 2: But I do have a great woman for the cast. Now,

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Speaker 2: Bachelor in Paradise does seem to be a go. Ben

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Speaker 2: and I were speculating yesterday that it seemed to be

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Speaker 2: not as sure of a thing as we thought, but

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Speaker 2: maybe we just heard from we heard that there was

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Speaker 2: more of a standstill than to be expected for a

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Speaker 2: show that they've like put little teasers out for already,

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Speaker 2: and in the Women Tell All, Jesse really makes it

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Speaker 2: seem like in two weeks we're gonna have some we're

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Speaker 2: gonna have updates about Paradise. I think that's gonna be

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Speaker 2: the change of location, and I think that is going

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Speaker 2: to be the fact that they're adding Goldens to the show.

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Speaker 2: Just my guess, what have you heard about that?

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Speaker 3: I also think they could announce some cast. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they've already announced Jonathan Hakkem. I don't know if they'll

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Speaker 3: I think they'll announce potentially an air date or at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it'll be back to being a summer show.

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Speaker 2: I believe that they are filming in May this year,

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Speaker 2: and that probably I heard May as well. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I think they'll be done editing by August. I

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Speaker 2: think they know it does better as a summer show

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Speaker 2: and they can keep at least a little bit of

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Speaker 2: semblance of normalcy for their year round schedule. Okay, So

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Speaker 2: any any speculation about the Goldens being in Paradise.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I heard too, that like they could

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Speaker 3: side show. I think that's I think it's dumb. I

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Speaker 3: don't want two shows on one show. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: don't think that works. So I think they need to

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Speaker 3: either commit to a Golden Paradise separate show and then

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Speaker 3: maybe even to like four episodes if they want, like

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Speaker 3: they did on Winter Games. They don't need to commit

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's get back to the main show

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Speaker 2: for a second. Carolina is start. She starts out the

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Speaker 2: show by showing off a jacket that has quotes on

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Speaker 2: it from the Carolina Show.

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Speaker 2: Jesse says, it's a bold choice. What do you think? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is bold. She's telling everyone basically that she had

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Speaker 2: more airtime than anyone else, which is accurate by a lot, right.

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Speaker 3: But it's not necessarily something you want to brag about.

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Speaker 3: It seems a little petty and low, but I mean,

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Speaker 3: I do think she kind of held her own during

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Speaker 3: the into all, a lot of the girls were coming

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Speaker 4: I'm sure a lot was cut on the editing room floor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she obviously was upset. It was a lot of

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Speaker 2: hat rehashing of the exact same stuff we didn't get anywhere. Really,

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Speaker 2: you either don't think Caroline is that bad or you're

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Speaker 2: like one of the girls and you think that she's annoying.

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Speaker 2: As heck, I can understand living with her would be annoying.

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Speaker 2: I still am on her team, though. When we talk

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Speaker 2: about the whole Rose situation, that is a weird thing

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Speaker 2: and that was the beginning of the real the Carolina Show.

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Speaker 2: I still think it was valid, and I still think

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Speaker 2: the clip in This Woman Until All. It's one of

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Speaker 2: Grant did say to Rose something along the lines of

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Speaker 2: during this dancing date today, I was thinking of you.

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Speaker 2: He'd never mentioned when dancing with Carolina, I was thinking

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Speaker 2: of you whole huge.

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Speaker 4: Difference, huge difference.

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Speaker 3: I think it kind of clears things up, it understand

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Speaker 3: I understand why Carolina was a little triggered by what

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Speaker 3: getting it wrong a little bit. So I'm glad that

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Speaker 3: they were able to clarify what was actually said. But

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Speaker 3: it doesn't seem like we got resolution between Carolina and Rose.

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Speaker 3: Like it doesn't seem like they made up or are

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Speaker 3: going to be friends. So maybe we'll get more of

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Speaker 3: that on their beef in Paradise if they both end

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I still think it was a bold choice of

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Speaker 2: Rose to make make comment about any of that to Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Super weird. But you know, we understand that Carolina definitely

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Speaker 2: has her flaws. I don't deny that she was. She

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Speaker 2: with things we probably didn't see now, Dina says another,

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Speaker 2: she says something bold. She says, if it weren't for me,

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Speaker 2: like I got you a whole other week here. And

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Speaker 2: I don't think she's wrong. She was the one that

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Speaker 2: stuck up for her that week in Madrid.

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Speaker 3: But don't you think that's a wild things to say,

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Speaker 3: that Dina has that much control over like a Rose.

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Speaker 2: If it weren't for Dina standing up for do you

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Speaker 2: think that she would have? Yeah, I see what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: I see what you're saying. That is something that I

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Speaker 2: probably wouldn't choose to say, But in a moment of

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Speaker 2: and cameras, it could come out of my mouth. I

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Speaker 2: I would never say that to somebody, but on a

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Speaker 3: It seems like a little like crazy that Dina would

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Speaker 3: have that much power. But maybe Dina like sticking up

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Speaker 3: made up that Rose ceremony, they like hugged upstairs, Like

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Speaker 3: maybe that like told the producers like, hey, like we

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Speaker 3: can resolve things with her, Let's keep her longer, because

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Speaker 3: if she was so shunned from the house, then the

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Speaker 3: have been like, all right, you're not aunt's choice, let's

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Speaker 4: So maybe Dina met.

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Speaker 2: No that hug happened right before Carolina was eliminated. She

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Speaker 2: didn't get through that week. It was the week before

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Speaker 2: when ca when Dina was like, you guys, like she's

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Speaker 2: a very sweet soul. She's a sweet soul and like

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about her through all of this. That's the

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Speaker 2: week she said she got her through.

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Speaker 3: Like, well maybe she she definitely supported her and had

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Speaker 3: in with some receipts that like she was her friend

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Another thing that Dina did was she posted a TikTok

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Speaker 2: that said, like, when you defend the one person, nobody

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Speaker 2: else would just to get played, just to get played.

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Speaker 2: The next week, so Dina was teasing the up coming

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Speaker 2: episode where she and Carolina actually had at it. And

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Speaker 2: this is one of the first times that we see

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Speaker 2: Bachelor The Bachelor using Instagram content, TikTok, social media content

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Speaker 2: to create drama on the show, to perpetuate a storyline.

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Speaker 2: I like it. Let's continue doing this. But again, that

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Speaker 2: was a bold choice of Dina. I could see why

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Speaker 2: Carolina would have been upset by that. But at the

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Speaker 2: same time, she isn't saying much. She's not really throwing Shane.

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Speaker 2: It is exactly what happened.

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Speaker 3: Well, wasn't that the same thing that happened to me

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Speaker 3: last week with my Twitter I wasn't trying to throw Shane.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to like seize the show. The same

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Speaker 3: thing happened with Dina's you know.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And then what happens as you allude to Carolina

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Speaker 2: decides to just screenshot their text messages and put them

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Speaker 2: out there. Like, Carolina, you can't do this. No one's what.

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Speaker 2: You can't do this. Every time somebody annoys you a

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Speaker 2: little bit with a social media comment, you're gonna just

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Speaker 2: you know, to grow our private text messages.

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Speaker 4: I mean, at least she's consistent.

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Speaker 2: Dina's going to go into this friendship with like gard

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Speaker 3: And it definitely seems like Grant was going to send

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like, no judgment. I just said what I would

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Speaker 2: It seems like, yeah, it's it's cool to be that

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Speaker 4: Yes, so it is what it is.

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Speaker 3: I think that, you know, I still think she's gonna

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Speaker 2: And I do agree with you. I think that time

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Speaker 3: So she she still held her own and you know,

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Speaker 3: definitely think she'll be there. I mean, there's only a

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Speaker 2: If Alex is down to do it. For some reason,

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Speaker 3: Hopefully she's Sina. She got a lot of airtime last night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was interesting. We didn't get much out of that.

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Speaker 3: I did see a lot of comments online that there

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Speaker 3: They really focused in on a lot of these hot

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Speaker 3: We didn't hear them speak at all, Like they didn't

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Speaker 2: That's true. And you know what's also really weird is

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Speaker 2: her there and not talk about why she had a

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Speaker 4: Must have got cut.

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Speaker 2: It probably probably got cut. Yes, now it's the big

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Speaker 3: Yeah, his body language looked a little exhausted and a

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Speaker 3: But he also should be excited that it's almost over.

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Speaker 2: He certainly hasn't gotten backlash yet.

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Speaker 3: No, he's gotten a very clean edit. Yeah, it's very

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Speaker 3: just cookie cutter. I mean, he hasn't made much of

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Speaker 3: I don't love him, I don't not like him, like

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The girls have definitely led the season as a

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Speaker 2: your final prediction? Seeing the scenes for the next couple episodes,

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Speaker 2: I think that it's intense to see him say I

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Speaker 2: love you to Letia, and if he doesn't pick her

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Speaker 2: after the I love you, I love you, that's always

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Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 3: One'm gland to know that there's two weeks. I originally

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Speaker 3: I think just the whole Fantasy Suites aspect adds a

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Speaker 4: This came out last.

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Speaker 2: Week, but tell us everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been celibate for a year going into the Bachelor.

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Speaker 3: now it seems like she's not gonna have to worry

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Speaker 3: So that will that potentially could make a lot less

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Speaker 2: Wow, that does change things. That does make things easier

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Speaker 3: Assuming yeah, So I wonder how they'll have those conversations

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Speaker 3: Is she is it a mutual decision, does she walk

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she is. They definitely voiced over the whole, like

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Speaker 2: not about Dewey in my opinion, that's to throw us

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Speaker 2: anything else that we've missed that was really dramatic during

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Speaker 4: It was a little lackluster.

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Speaker 2: Anything that, you know that to spice it up?

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Speaker 4: I know, I'm trying to think.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think what we got and I did

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Speaker 3: and we didn't get any of that. So I think

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Speaker 3: we can expect some of that drama to carry over

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Speaker 3: I kind of agreed. It seemed like he didn't know

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Speaker 3: he wasn't good at guiding any resolution or just conversation.

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Speaker 3: So I think we have to give him a little

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Speaker 3: bit of flak for last night, at least the way

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Speaker 4: I just didn't think he did much as a host.

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Speaker 2: Okay, respect I did see a comment that was like,

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Speaker 2: Dina is actually hosting this thing.

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Speaker 4: Right exactly. There was just like a lot of screaming.

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Speaker 3: I felt like I would didn't get to hear from

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Speaker 3: all the girls, So this was probably more of a letdown,

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Speaker 3: I would say, out of all the tell.

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Speaker 2: Alls, I just feel like tell alls need to be reevaluated.

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Speaker 2: Ben and I you like, tell All's you told us

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Speaker 2: last week that you were really excited about this. I

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Speaker 2: get so angry when they're like and next week women

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Speaker 2: tell All, I'm like, no.

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Speaker 2: I just don't feel like I need it, especially in

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Speaker 2: norm Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it definitely is a little bit shorter. Huh yeah.

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Speaker 3: I like tell all just because it's like the drama's

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Speaker 3: heightened and it's usually a place to solve all the issues.

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Speaker 3: So it was It was okay, but like I said,

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Speaker 3: it could have been better. We did get a lot

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Speaker 3: of that snow white content.

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Speaker 2: For a lot of snow Hey, the mirror mirror thing

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Speaker 2: worked better than I thought. I was thinking that, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: this is cheesy, but then when we got the clip

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Speaker 2: of Rose and Grant, that was worth it. And then

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Speaker 2: it was funny to see some behind the scenes info.

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Speaker 2: The bloopers were really good this season. Good bloopers were

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Speaker 2: and it just again as bloopers always do, made me

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Speaker 2: feel like they need to keep some of that lightheartedness

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Speaker 2: into the show. Like Carolina said, do you want to

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Speaker 2: make me want to make out with me intensely? And

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Speaker 2: then let me smell your armpit?

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Speaker 5: Like what?

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Speaker 2: Wait? Why do you like smelling armpits?

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Speaker 3: It was a little creepy, but I actually do want

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Speaker 3: to see snow White, and I think a lot of

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Speaker 3: people do, so I'm glad that they're promoting a movie

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Speaker 3: that is approved, and they also approved. They also talked

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Speaker 3: about mom talk, which is what you guys said too.

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Speaker 3: The Secret Life of Mormon Wife season two taking over

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Speaker 3: The Bachelor at timeslot. They announced the premiere of that

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Speaker 3: show for May.

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Speaker 2: Fifteenth, and it's a Monday.

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Speaker 4: It's a Monday, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, alrighty well, thank you for recapping this with me,

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Speaker 2: and you're going to stick around for headlines this week

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Speaker 2: and they are jush all right, see you guys, Ben,

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Speaker 2: Let's do it. Bye.

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