WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Big Questions Headed Into 2018

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<v Speaker 1>The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>wa with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, January third, twenty eighteen, Season thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>episode number ninety eight. Welcome to another edition of The Break,

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<v Speaker 1>live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate you guys taking some time with us today

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<v Speaker 1>to talk some Cowboys football. We're into our offseason schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>In case you haven't noticed, there's one show per day.

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<v Speaker 1>Each of the different podcasts that we have will be

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<v Speaker 1>going once a week throughout the offseason, all the way

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<v Speaker 1>until we get to about June after the final mini camp,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll take about a month hiatus as we

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<v Speaker 1>do every year, and then we'll be back at training.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you doing It's gonna go quickly. Huh, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing? I'm telling people what to expect. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean? What am I doing? January third, Yes, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>let me just let me just breathe for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Fans want to know. These things got me doing the

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<v Speaker 1>draft show tomorrow. You got me going to training camp today?

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<v Speaker 1>Will all right? Cool? Yep? All right, So let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>get into it. We got a lot to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>We have not been on the air since the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>had their scintillating final game of the season. They win

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<v Speaker 1>six to zero, but it was a game where I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it inspired a whole lot of confidence in

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<v Speaker 1>most fans that watched the game. But a win is

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<v Speaker 1>a win. Cowboys in with a nine and seven record,

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<v Speaker 1>so they have a winning record, don't make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>And real quick, before we do what we're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>plan to do today, I have some questions for you

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<v Speaker 1>guys for a season review. I just real quickly want

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<v Speaker 1>to get a quick some quick thoughts from you guys

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<v Speaker 1>with regards to that game and just kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>general thought of that game relative to the season in

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<v Speaker 1>them ending nine and seven. Let's start with you, Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your your final thought on this twenty seventeen season. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I did so much yelling during the during

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<v Speaker 1>that game because he's so exciting. I lost very loud.

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<v Speaker 1>You almost got kicked out. Yeah, yeah, Um, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I thought it was. It was an ugly

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<v Speaker 1>game for sure, Um, you know, the Eagles not even

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<v Speaker 1>playing their guys, the Cowboys kind of struggling through, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they they won the game, and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was important. I thought it was important for Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett because it kept his job, because if you lose

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<v Speaker 1>to the Eagles, I don't think he keeps his job. Really, no,

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<v Speaker 1>not like that, not with that bad team they threw

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<v Speaker 1>out there. Eagles were playing their second slash third quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>They you know, they weren't that interested and they, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of were puddling along there. If you lose to

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles, I think, and go finish eight and eight. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know if he keeps it,

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<v Speaker 1>but so I think it's important for Jason Garrett and

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<v Speaker 1>call it meaningless if you want, I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>meaningful for him. Amber. No, it was definitely surprising to

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<v Speaker 1>see the Cowboys going up against that team, as Nick mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>but with the Cowboys having a lot of their starters

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<v Speaker 1>and still that we're struggling. They didn't score anything up

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<v Speaker 1>until the last quarter. With Bryce Butler catching the touchdown. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>then Dan Bailey we talked about him, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure we'll discuss that later. But just in general,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they ended up with this record, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of upsetting because on one hand, you say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well we had this record, but in reality, when you

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<v Speaker 1>analyze the whole season, it sucked in a lot of acts.

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<v Speaker 1>My vocabulary is very limited. Straight for the vocabulary is

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<v Speaker 1>perfect for what the fans think. Well, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's bad to see. Okay, yeah, now you have

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<v Speaker 1>this record to use it and justify everything else, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well we did this and that, but we're finishing up

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<v Speaker 1>with a winning record. Well, no, every there were so

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<v Speaker 1>many bad things to talk about throughout the season, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>changes need to happen, but I don't know how we

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<v Speaker 1>all really know. Not many changes will happen, Okay, Dave, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I disagree. Like the one thing that I've realized during

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<v Speaker 1>this past week since they won that game, the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing it matters about is for people like us, like

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<v Speaker 1>media types and I guess fans maybe to say, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the last time they head back to back winning records

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen. But then that's so

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<v Speaker 1>hollow because ten years from now, when you say that stat,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna stop and think like, well, yeah, okay, they

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<v Speaker 1>went nine and seven and twenty seventeen, Big whoop. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a crappy season, Like that's what people are gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>And I hope, I hope that whether or not Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett has a job wasn't determined by that, like a meaningless,

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<v Speaker 1>crappy game in Philadelphia where you knew all week that

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't going to decide anything. I get that it's

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<v Speaker 1>big for him to avoid another eight and eight season,

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<v Speaker 1>him personally, not the Cowboys, because I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>really matters in the long run of things. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're deciding whether or not he should be the

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<v Speaker 1>coach of the Cowboys, I hope you're looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger picture and how you played during Zeke's suspension, and

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<v Speaker 1>how you handled the injuries and the ups and the downs,

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<v Speaker 1>and how you handled the adversity. I hope everything that

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<v Speaker 1>happened when you were still in the playoff hunt mattered

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<v Speaker 1>more than whether or not you got a meaningless win

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<v Speaker 1>to get to nine and seven, and you know that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I firmly thought that they should be sitting guys themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a moral victory to get to nine

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<v Speaker 1>and seven, that's all it is. And it's more of

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<v Speaker 1>a moral victory for Jason Garrett than the team as

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<v Speaker 1>a whole. The players don't care. You know, I disagree

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit with that because I think, well, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>throw one other thing in there. It's not I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Maybe the players don't care. I think Jason cares,

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<v Speaker 1>and I certainly think that the organization cares. And here's why.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay, here's why, because you start looking at it

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<v Speaker 1>and you get five years from now, and there are

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<v Speaker 1>these stats that people throw out that talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>overall health of the organization. Let's assume they go back

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<v Speaker 1>to their winning ways like they last year next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you're on a city a situation where the stat

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<v Speaker 1>is four of the last five years the Cowboys have

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<v Speaker 1>had a winning record. Right, Those are the kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>things that I think the organization thinks about. Sure that

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<v Speaker 1>that makes that game and that one extra win important

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<v Speaker 1>to them. Now, again, it's not a super Bowl, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like it's that level of importance, but it still

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<v Speaker 1>is somewhat important to the organization, and it gets to

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<v Speaker 1>have a winning season. And I guess my argument to that,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, and I guess that was my point when

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<v Speaker 1>I started talking, was a decade from now, it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>part of this statistic, like well, four of the last

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<v Speaker 1>five years. But when you stop and think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like, I'm borrow a line from my buddy

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<v Speaker 1>Clarence Hill. Stats lie like if you think back and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, yeah, great, they went nine and seven, they

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<v Speaker 1>stopped like but but but the flip to that is,

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<v Speaker 1>let's assume again, and this is a huge assumption, so

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<v Speaker 1>don't take this as fact. Let's assume that the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>actually make a deep run next year and or a

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<v Speaker 1>deep run in the year after that. Now that stat

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<v Speaker 1>becomes even more important. Right. So those are the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of things I think the organizations like, we want to

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<v Speaker 1>give as many wins as we can because it all

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<v Speaker 1>bills to the narrative of what our organization is. There's

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<v Speaker 1>something to be said for you know, like Nick said

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<v Speaker 1>last week, you only get sixteen of these, you might

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<v Speaker 1>as well try to win all of the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>you can. But I think it's more hollow than not

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<v Speaker 1>hollow at the end of the day, until you win

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<v Speaker 1>a Super Bowl or at least get a downed champaign. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>if this is year two of an eight year run

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<v Speaker 1>of making the playoffs matter, the Seahawks just concluded, yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>then it it still doesn't matter that much because if

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<v Speaker 1>they start doing that, nobody's gonna care about this season.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna be like, well, great whatever, nine and seven.

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<v Speaker 1>But then they went twelve and four and thirteen and three,

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<v Speaker 1>eight and blah blah blah. So it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>We will see. I mean, I think all in all,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all agree. It was extremely disappointing. This

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<v Speaker 1>was this was maybe maybe the weirdest season I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>experienced here with the Cowboys. I've been Nick, you and

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<v Speaker 1>I both have had. This was our eighteen this or

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<v Speaker 1>your nineteenth eighteen nineteen. This is my eighteenth season, and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty funny and by far, this was the weirdest season

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever experienced. It was so many things, Dave, you

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<v Speaker 1>said it when we were on the plane coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was after the game you were saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's there's when you think back to all

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<v Speaker 1>the things that would happen if you try to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to training camp. There have been so many things

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<v Speaker 1>that this organization, that this league has experienced this year

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<v Speaker 1>that were out of the norm, and it just made

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<v Speaker 1>for just this really crazy season, and on top of that,

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<v Speaker 1>disappointing because the results were not what you expected them

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<v Speaker 1>to be. I tried to write it all out, and then,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I liked to screenshot in my notes and

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<v Speaker 1>put them on Twitter. I tried to write it all

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<v Speaker 1>out in a note the other day and I failed.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I looked at it and I was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't remotely close to being every I mean, I had

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<v Speaker 1>a game cancel, had a game canceled by a hurricane

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<v Speaker 1>telephone had your player I'd forgotten about that, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was on the bottom end of the list. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's happened that we're crazy, right, Well, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal for what happened. I'm not gonna say it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have no I'm saying. I'm saying from the standpoint

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<v Speaker 1>of when you think about all the things that affected

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<v Speaker 1>on the field, that was a preseason game. So missing

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<v Speaker 1>a preseason game was relatively the last one preseason game

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<v Speaker 1>was canceled. Your incumbent punt returner was cut after a

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<v Speaker 1>dog kidnapping scandal. Um, Your your star running back was

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<v Speaker 1>suspended and had a lengthy battle with the NFL. Playing

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<v Speaker 1>this week, Playing this week, one of your linebackers allegedly

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<v Speaker 1>pulled a gun on some people. All of your outside

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<v Speaker 1>free agents that you hired, two of them got cut,

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<v Speaker 1>one of them retired. Um, but there was the national anthem.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we spent a whole thirty minute segment talking

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<v Speaker 1>about that. What else happened? That's and that's my point,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I've only listed four or five things, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just starting to draw a blank. And I know that

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<v Speaker 1>that's just like the tip of the iceberg. And by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, only one of those, I think, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably Zeke, actually was something that affected on the field

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<v Speaker 1>significant And while I didn't get into the tire and

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<v Speaker 1>injury to Sean. Yeah, if you want to talk about football,

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<v Speaker 1>you got all that swiffing on three free agents. Oh yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fair, no doubt not mean that that did affect. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but part of that's on the on themselves. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they knew Demontre Moore was was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be suspended, Like, I don't know. That didn't sit

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<v Speaker 1>well with me. I mean, it's not like he was

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<v Speaker 1>that great in other other places. You've already got guys

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<v Speaker 1>that are that are suspended. I mean, you already knew

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to be have a two game suspension

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<v Speaker 1>and they didn't even say anything. I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was bad. Yeah about about a tight end

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<v Speaker 1>that that that caught the Yeah this world by by

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen week concussion. We forgot about the two touchdowns in

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<v Speaker 1>the preseason. This guy's about the star in the making

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<v Speaker 1>and getcussion and he's gone, Uh, your second best pass

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<v Speaker 1>rusher started the season suspended. He missed the first month

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<v Speaker 1>of the season, lost the nipple ring in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of nipple ring. Uh. First missed the last month of

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<v Speaker 1>the season with another very lengthy concussion that was and

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<v Speaker 1>still ended the season. Second. I believe so off the

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<v Speaker 1>top of my head, I believe so pretty amazing. Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Heath led the team and picks for a third consecutive year.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty wild is that three consecutive years now he's

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<v Speaker 1>been tied for the lead at least at least tied,

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<v Speaker 1>if not outright leading Jeff Jeff Heath being called the

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<v Speaker 1>goat is like the biggest story. Never he's the goat?

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<v Speaker 1>Um yes, oh just dezz in big nineteen inch letters,

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<v Speaker 1>say it with me, Darren McFadden, Oh, I forgot all

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<v Speaker 1>your number two running backslash number one running back all

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<v Speaker 1>through camp who took one carry this entire season and retired.

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<v Speaker 1>Never understood that, and nobody will ever understand that as

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<v Speaker 1>long as we're doing this. Rod Smith was better than

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Smith. No. Hey, well, if you were at about

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<v Speaker 1>week six or seven, you probably had a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>How about the Jayalen Smith roller coaster from like they

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<v Speaker 1>can't count on this guy to this guy's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be an All Pro in the preseason too, this guy's

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<v Speaker 1>not ready about week five to this guy's playing pretty

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<v Speaker 1>well too. We feel really good about where he's that

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<v Speaker 1>heading into year three. I mean, you went up and

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<v Speaker 1>down about six times, kind of like your voice just

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<v Speaker 1>went like I can talk about that, but if I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to do what you just did, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>really you could break that glass. Yeah, it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>just been such a crazy season and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on top of that, it being a disappointing season,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is what's so hard for fans because there's

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<v Speaker 1>been so much emotion that's been tied up in it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then not winning games on top of that, and

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<v Speaker 1>it being not what you expected because coming into this

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<v Speaker 1>year you really expect it there to be a much

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<v Speaker 1>better production on the on the field. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>other other than the Zeke saga? What do you think

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<v Speaker 1>fans were the most upset about heading into Week one?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll I have the answer. I'll most upset, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>heading into week other than the Zeke saga week one,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell I have the answer. I'll tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. Kellen Moore was still on this team. They

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<v Speaker 1>were most upset about it. Yes, absolutely, are the backup quarterback? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and not like you forget he was even on the

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<v Speaker 1>active roster at one point this year, but that happened. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't playing, but was on the active roster. Cedric

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<v Speaker 1>Thornton's in the playoffs right now with what team Buffalo?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? It's been a long year, That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to say. It's been a long year. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be interesting when you get into free agency, which

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<v Speaker 1>starts early March mid March. I don't have the exact date,

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<v Speaker 1>March fourteenth. Maybe that's great, let's go with that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but when you get into it this year, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna start taking some lumps from the media, and

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<v Speaker 1>they should because then they're gonna start looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>last two years of free agents and they've been pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing. No, No, they've been really awful,

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<v Speaker 1>actually any bad. I think they've gotten the benefit of

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<v Speaker 1>the doubt a lot the last couple of years because,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's be honest, like the scouting staff and the

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<v Speaker 1>administrative staff, like they've made some before that they were

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<v Speaker 1>making some pretty good decisions I thought with regards to personnel. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's free agency or not, they were just making

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<v Speaker 1>good personnel decisions. And so I think people gave them

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<v Speaker 1>the benefit of the doubt that hey, this new formula

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<v Speaker 1>of not going and paying top dollar for free agents

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<v Speaker 1>and let's see where it goes. Let's give them the

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<v Speaker 1>benefit of doubt because they made other good, wise prudent decisions. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they get that benefit of the doubt

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<v Speaker 1>because going and you get what you pay for, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and what they've paid for the last couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>has basically been what they got and which is not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of production from the free agents. So this year,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right, there's gonna be a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>scrutiny on whatever decisions they make, and they're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with that if that matters to them. And

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<v Speaker 1>and the guys that they lost, I mean, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the guys they lost in free agency were pretty you know,

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<v Speaker 1>did a pretty good job. Brandon Card had a nice year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Barry Church had a nice year. Church had

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty damn oh though, for the money, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to rewrite history for the money. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys keep him like that. That I don't put

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<v Speaker 1>on the Cowboys. I looked at all, not keeping Barry Church.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at Mote Claiborne another day. I just just

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't heard anything about him, and he played fifteen games.

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<v Speaker 1>He had one interception, But I mean I was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of surprised. I don't know, probably the top three, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen games. That was impressed by that for him because

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<v Speaker 1>he hadn't that's what he hasn't been able to do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just one interception. But he's never been a big interception guy. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>disappointment where he was drafted. I think that's such a

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<v Speaker 1>huge disappointment. I think he could go down as one

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<v Speaker 1>of the biggest bus in the draft bus in Cowboys history.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know, really people want to say Bobby Carpenter

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, but when you look at what you trade

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<v Speaker 1>it up to get him, and he hasn't been a

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<v Speaker 1>productive player. I mean, I hate saying it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's an LSU guy and you can't argue

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<v Speaker 1>with facts, man, I know. And not only that, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's lie though you are. Stats can lie, but not

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<v Speaker 1>just disappointing here, Like if he goes on and the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of his career is the same, then it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it says that he wasn't even a great player. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it. He didn't play way great for the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't a great player. And to take him that high.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the part that so I told you

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<v Speaker 1>what I thought they should have done year three. Moved

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<v Speaker 1>from defense receiver. Yeah, maybe you wouldn't be in a

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<v Speaker 1>position you are right now a receiver. I've seen him

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<v Speaker 1>return a few kicks. I mean, he is quick, he's fast,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got, you know, some alusiveness. I mean, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to do something with them. I did not expect to

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<v Speaker 1>be breaking down Mo Clayborne today. All that. I never

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to jets break. I never know where this show

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<v Speaker 1>is going to go. All right, let's take our first break.

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<v Speaker 1>at the Star. We're doing a season in review today.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about the twenty seventeen season and what happened

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<v Speaker 1>this season and how that could impact the twenty eighteen offseason.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with the first question I have for you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Which was a bigger impact on this disappointing season. Zeke's suspension,

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<v Speaker 1>Tyren Smith's injuries or Lee Shaun Lee's injuries? Leeks suspension. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>because it started in the summer and it lasted all

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<v Speaker 1>the way till weeks sixteen of the season when he

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<v Speaker 1>came back and one way or another it was hanging

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<v Speaker 1>over his head. It affected him, It affected his demeanor. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I mean, I think I think he looked

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<v Speaker 1>very tired in Week one against the Giants, he looked tired.

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<v Speaker 1>He did played well, but he looked tired. I just

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<v Speaker 1>thought that that situation stayed in the news, stayed as

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<v Speaker 1>a distraction for him, maybe not his teammates all the time, coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>do we have him? Do we not? He played against

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs on Sunday and needn't know until Friday morning

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<v Speaker 1>he was gonna play. I thought that was a distraction

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<v Speaker 1>all year, and then the six games without him was

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<v Speaker 1>a disaster. I mean it was well when it was

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<v Speaker 1>either three and three, but yeah, and just for reference,

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<v Speaker 1>just for four and two gets you in the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>if it's Atlanta. Yeah, just for reference sake, Cowboys went

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<v Speaker 1>three and three without Zeke. They went oh and two

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<v Speaker 1>without Tyran Smith, and they went one and four without

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Lee. They went they went one and two. You're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about during the suspension Tyrant. I mean they won

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles game that he didn't plan. Yes, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but during the suspension, Yes, suspension. I think it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>sorry if it's a cop out, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a combination of everything. I think the Zeke, the Zeke

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<v Speaker 1>suspension undoubtedly weighed on this team's psyche. I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>what anybody said, and maybe maybe not everybody, but the coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>the ownership, the front office, Zeke himself, Dak Prescott. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe maybe I don't think Joe Looney was

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<v Speaker 1>really too worried about what was going on with Zeke

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<v Speaker 1>and how it affected his day to day. But in

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<v Speaker 1>the grand scheme of the football team, absolutely, And then honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, you think about Atlanta, you think about

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not Philly just because they were rolling at that time,

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<v Speaker 1>but like the way that the way those guys played

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<v Speaker 1>against the Giants and the Redskins when Tyrone came back,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta believe that they had a shot to beat

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<v Speaker 1>the Falcons, or at least have it be competitive if

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<v Speaker 1>he's in there. And the same thing goes for Sean Lee,

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<v Speaker 1>like in terms of I think, I really think they

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<v Speaker 1>could have gone four and two if those two guys

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<v Speaker 1>had been healthy during that entire stretch. One way or

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<v Speaker 1>the other, whether Lee helps him play a better defense

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<v Speaker 1>against the Chargers down the stretch, whether Tyron helps Dak

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<v Speaker 1>play a better game against the Falcons, I think they

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<v Speaker 1>could get one of those wins. If those guys have

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<v Speaker 1>been healthy. So, like I said, I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff really goes hand in hand together. The

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<v Speaker 1>biggest surprise for me would be shan Lee just because

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<v Speaker 1>and you can make an argument for each one of these,

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<v Speaker 1>but the whole six situation, yeah, that affected the team.

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<v Speaker 1>The team one hundred percent. But you knew that coming

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<v Speaker 1>into training camp. You knew everything that was happening. You

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<v Speaker 1>should have been well prepared for in case that did happen.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you going to handle this situation? You knew

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<v Speaker 1>Tyren Smith has been dealing with injuries since last year.

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<v Speaker 1>You should have a backup that should be capable to

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<v Speaker 1>handle the job. Meanwhile, he's out. The one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I did not expect was shan Lee being out and

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<v Speaker 1>affecting the way he did, Like his absence affected the

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<v Speaker 1>whole defense, And that was one unexpected for me and surprising.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think when listening to all this, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Dave is exactly right that it is all

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<v Speaker 1>three and it's not a cop out because when you

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, and in Garrett's press conference yesterday, really

0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:14.280
<v Speaker 1>one game was mentioned over and over and in Atlanta

0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:16.640
<v Speaker 1>that was the game that was the game that that

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<v Speaker 1>that just because not only did you what are they

0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:23.000
<v Speaker 1>finish with ten and six? Who the Falcons? Yeah, so

0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:26.159
<v Speaker 1>they're ten and six, you flip those roles, they're in

0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:29.520
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, and all three of what of those things

0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:32.720
<v Speaker 1>you just said were a factor in that game. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the first game without Zeke tyring, they had no

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<v Speaker 1>clue how to how to figure that out with time,

0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:40.200
<v Speaker 1>and then Sean Lee gets hurt in the first quarter,

0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I believe in the game. So that's the one game

0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:46.040
<v Speaker 1>where all three was I mean, I guess I guess Philly.

0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:49.000
<v Speaker 1>They were all out for Philly as well. Yeah, but

0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:51.280
<v Speaker 1>but but you know, there was the first time to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of deal with it, and I Amber's right, I mean,

0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:55.840
<v Speaker 1>was Zeke they knew that the Zeke's thing was coming,

0:22:56.400 --> 0:22:58.680
<v Speaker 1>and then they should have known that Sean Lee was

0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:01.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna get banged up at some point too. But Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was was the game that cost him everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and all three of those things we're a huge factor

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 1>in that. So I don't think it's bad to say

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:11.360
<v Speaker 1>it's a three way tie. And well and I got

0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:13.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, that creates the narrative kind of going around

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and maybe it's hindsight or maybe it really

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:19.199
<v Speaker 1>was a mistake, but just the way you handled the

0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:22.119
<v Speaker 1>offensive line, I mean, you're you know, you're right. Maybe

0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:25.920
<v Speaker 1>be better prepared, Maybe maybe don't try to turn Chaz

0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Green into a guard and then expect them to play

0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:29.920
<v Speaker 1>tackle right off the bat like that, or when I

0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:33.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, you can go ten dozen different ways with

0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:36.000
<v Speaker 1>how they might have handled that better. But it's kind

0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:37.679
<v Speaker 1>of pointless right now. All right, let's go to the

0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:40.359
<v Speaker 1>next question. If the Cowboys had to keep one coordinator

0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:43.800
<v Speaker 1>and get rid of one, which would you keep the

0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:47.560
<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator Scotland Hand or the defensive coordinator Rod Mironelli. Again,

0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:52.440
<v Speaker 1>meat today, gotta keep one, gotta let one go. When

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:59.480
<v Speaker 1>you keep oh damn, I don't pass, no passing. I

0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:04.240
<v Speaker 1>probably Marinelli. Keep Marinelli? Why? Because this defense is trending

0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:07.240
<v Speaker 1>upward they I mean, and I guess you could argue

0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:09.480
<v Speaker 1>that they didn't play a lot of great teams down

0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.800
<v Speaker 1>the stretch, but that secondary looked like it really came

0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 1>along the pass rush. Honestly, something I thought about yesterday.

0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:19.480
<v Speaker 1>It kind of tapered toward the end. And you can

0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:22.320
<v Speaker 1>blame the David Irving injury if you want or DeMarcus

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:25.119
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence not getting the holding calls he thought he deserved whatever.

0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:28.600
<v Speaker 1>But they finished with thirty two sacks. League lead was

0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:30.720
<v Speaker 1>fifty six, So I mean they fell off the pace

0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:34.239
<v Speaker 1>pretty good. But this for the most part, with the

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:38.719
<v Speaker 1>exception of that baffling three games stretch when Sean Lee

0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 1>was hurt, was pretty solid. I mean, they they held

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:46.119
<v Speaker 1>what you call it, They held the Chiefs to seventeen points.

0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:49.320
<v Speaker 1>They were allowing nineteen points a game when Lee was

0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:52.000
<v Speaker 1>in the lineup. They were getting sacks. These young dbs

0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:55.479
<v Speaker 1>are getting making plays on balls, and I would imagine,

0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, with another draft and maybe another free agency period,

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine you can upgrade the talent on defense

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:03.719
<v Speaker 1>even further. And then you look at the offense and

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:06.399
<v Speaker 1>you look at the talent you've accumulated over there and

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:10.160
<v Speaker 1>how good they were last year. And it obviously didn't

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:12.640
<v Speaker 1>work out, but there were things in place to account

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:15.000
<v Speaker 1>for Zeke. I mean, they felt good about their backup

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:17.160
<v Speaker 1>running backs going into training camp, at least they said

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:19.720
<v Speaker 1>they did. They brought back the same receiver corps that

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 1>was very solid last year. I mean, everything was the

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 1>same and the results were not great. But one thing

0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:28.399
<v Speaker 1>to note though, and I went back, I was looking

0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:31.200
<v Speaker 1>at just kind of the season overall. From Week three

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 1>to the final game, that Kansas City game before Zeke

0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 1>goes out, Cowboys were scoring. They didn't score any less

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 1>than twenty eight points in a game. They were scoring

0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:42.880
<v Speaker 1>a ton of points. Now, I do believe that Zeke

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 1>going out changed everything, and I think the offense and

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:48.159
<v Speaker 1>you guys talked about it. Then you started getting not

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 1>only Zeke was out, but you had some games where

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:52.119
<v Speaker 1>Retiring was out and Shawn's out, and you got that

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 1>one game where they all three out. So I think

0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:56.679
<v Speaker 1>there were more things at play, but I think they were.

0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:59.439
<v Speaker 1>They had hit a stride and after a kind of

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:01.919
<v Speaker 1>a first two games with their offense really wasn't clicking.

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if I don't think that the

0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 1>offense necessarily had. They didn't have as good of a

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 1>season as a year before, but they certainly were hitting

0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 1>their stride at the point when Zeke goes out. I

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:14.239
<v Speaker 1>borrow I'm gonna borrow some logic from Nick, and I'm

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna borrow a line from my guy Drake, like from

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 1>that wait in the same sentence, it's so the first

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:23.359
<v Speaker 1>time that's ever happened. Nothing was the same, not true

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 1>after that game in Atlanta. Yeah, nothing was, That's true,

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Like I mean, at whatever you want to blame. I mean,

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>the running game kind of found itself after a while,

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:35.960
<v Speaker 1>even without Zeke and Tyring came back. Like Da Dak

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the same player from that game on? Really, I mean,

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>would you other than I know, I mean he played,

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:44.120
<v Speaker 1>he played fairly well in the Giants game. I think

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett said it was his arguably his guest best

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 1>game of the season. I don't agree with that, just because, again,

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, all plays count at the end of the day,

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>but you're talking about a nine yard slant turning into

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:56.400
<v Speaker 1>a fifty yard touchdown and a ten yard slant turning

0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 1>into an eighty one yard touchdown. Like stats kind of

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:01.159
<v Speaker 1>lie in the case that game, in my opinion, like

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I would say Kansas City or probably San Francisco or

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:07.439
<v Speaker 1>even Green Bay was his best game of the year.

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:10.400
<v Speaker 1>You got a look who you're playing against too, Yeah, absolutely,

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 1>absolutely so. Just I there are a variety of things

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 1>you can pended on, but the offense just kind of

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 1>went in the tank after that game. Either of you

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:21.359
<v Speaker 1>guys disagree with that. Would either one of you guys

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>say I'd let Marinelli go and keep in hand, try

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:27.360
<v Speaker 1>to keep I try to get rid of both. Actually,

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I think so, I guess it would have

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 1>to be. If you have to keep one, I guess

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 1>it would be Marinelli because I really don't like the

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:43.119
<v Speaker 1>offensive structure here. You know, I keep harping what they

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 1>I think that they need. And there's a reason why

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:48.880
<v Speaker 1>they don't go get that guy because they don't use them.

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 1>They don't feel like they need them, because that's not

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 1>their offense. So it's me. I don't like that offense.

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, when you're on the twenty yard line,

0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>you've got fifty three yards this way, you know, and

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:03.160
<v Speaker 1>got eighty this way, and they don't use it. They

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>play every possession like they're in the red zone. They

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 1>they you know, they don't really think that to go

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>thirty forty yards down the field, And I think that's

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 1>a waste. That's a waste of because that that hurts

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 1>your running game overall and hurt your mid receivers if

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:18.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't ever try to extend it deep. And that's

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 1>not their offense. So because it's not their offense. I

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:24.199
<v Speaker 1>don't really, I'm not agreeing with the scheme with the

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 1>guys that are available as a defensive coordinator. Change your

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on this. And what I mean by that is

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 1>you got Matt Eberflew sitting there and a lot of

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:36.919
<v Speaker 1>people respect him as a linebackers coach, but at some

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 1>point he's gonna want an opportunity to be a defensive coordinator.

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 1>And there's going to become a point when that decision

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>will be up to him because his contract will be up.

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 1>And are you at all afraid of or wondering about

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 1>losing him? And let's also think about some of the

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>guys that are out there. Steve Spagnola you would assume

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 1>might be available. He's a guy that has a totally

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 1>different kind of defense. He's a much more aggressive kind

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 1>of defense. Would you prefer? Does that make you maybe say, Hey,

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 1>if I'm gonna have to get rid of one and

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 1>keep one, maybe I'll let the defensive coordinator walk because

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I have other options that I like right now as

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 1>far as defensive coordinators are out there, no, no, no,

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 1>And here's why, girl quick. Yeah, they both need some

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:19.719
<v Speaker 1>changes there. But if you had to keep one and

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with Mary Nelly just because even if

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>you're not succeeding, as long as I'm seeing progress and

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:31.320
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of improvement, I'm feeling good and I'm

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>happy and content. And when you talk about the offense,

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I never saw any of that. And it's like you

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 1>talk about seeing the same kind of mistakes over and

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>over but no changes. No let's try this, or let's

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 1>switch it up here, or let's you know, figure something

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 1>else out after you see week by week the same

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 1>thing happening, at least with Mary Nelly in the defense.

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 1>This year, I'm feeling a lot better. I remember before,

0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 1>like going into the draft, my biggest con was the

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 1>pass rush, and now look at this pass rush and

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 1>look at the rookies how well they've been doing in

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the secondary. So there's progress and hope for me in

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 1>that area. Okay, Now, offense, that's a different story. What's funny?

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and I agree with everything she just said,

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>but I think you could make and I just have

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 1>this feeling like continuity is more important to an offense,

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, like, what what does it mean for Dak

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Prescott if you change up his whole structure, like it

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>could be good obviously. I mean Jared Goff turned his whole.

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, his second season was light years better than

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>his first after a change of staff, So it's certainly possible.

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:41.960
<v Speaker 1>But the comfort of my quarterback is probably my number

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 1>one concern when it comes to making changes like that,

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>So like, if they were to make a change, I

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>would hope he's heavily involved in it and it's a

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 1>guy that's going to help him grow and get better.

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Whereas you know, I just said Marinelli's the guy that

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I would keep on of the two of them, based

0:30:56.840 --> 0:31:00.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, based on the returns on this defense sacks takeaway,

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>think they have twenty seven in the last three years

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 1>or some very low number like that. There's there's nothing

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>this defense does where I'm just like, we can't let

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 1>that guy go, like he's too important to what we do.

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Like what where? Where have you seen that to where

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 1>you think that's true? So, I mean, it's it's on it.

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 1>It's splitting hairs for me. I mean, whichever one where

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>to go, I think they could rebound nicely from it.

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't really look like either one's gonna go.

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 1>So okay, let's move on the next question. Let's assume

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 1>is only one of these things can be addressed in

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 1>the offseason, which would you address finding a swing tackle,

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 1>finding a safety, or finding a wide receiver, finding a

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>m what kind of wide receiver somebody to replace the

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 1>money that you're spending on days? Oh oh, we tackle

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>or number one receiver? Yeah, I mean, I mean, that's

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 1>that's about That's about relative imp trying to kill your game.

0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 1>But I'm just I mean, I think it's a different

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 1>question when you're I don't let me explain it. The

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 1>reason why. I don't think that's a I see what

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 1>you're saying. But when you think about it from the

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>standpoint of right now, you have a starting left tackle

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 1>who has had back issues the last two years, and

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>what we saw this year is when he's out, the

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>entire offense changes as much as anybody else. I mean,

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>you say it's Zeke, but there's an argument that it

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>changed just as drastically when Tyron Smith wasn't in there.

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>So that being said, do you still that swing tackle

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 1>position still becomes very important. You're not getting rid of

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Tyren Smith, but you got to prepare for the possibility

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 1>that he's going to miss some games because he has

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 1>missed games the last two years. So that being said,

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>which one is more important? Having that suing tackle so

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 1>that when he goes down, you've got somebody or having

0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 1>a wide receiver so you don't have to pay the

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 1>amount of money that you're gonna pay to Dez Bryant

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:46.959
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully get either similar or better production. Clip this

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>out and put it on the internet. Hamber, Like I

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 1>refuse to shovel dirt on Tyron Smith. I'm just not

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 1>going to do it. I'm not. I'm not saying shovel Nope,

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>but I'm speaking my piece on the question you're asking me.

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm not doing it. I think he's a

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<v Speaker 1>hell of a player. He's ridiculously tough. The fact that

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>he did as much as he did in spite of

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 1>everything that was bothering him is amazing. So it's a

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>twing swing tackle not that important for you. It's it's

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 1>obviously important, But I'm not I'm not convinced that I

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 1>need to find his replacement right now. Let's be clear,

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying the replacement. Can you just let me talk? Yes,

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure you've been the conversation focused.

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Just let me talk all right, go. All you've been

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 1>doing is talking for the one that said you didn't

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 1>know how you'd get through the show with your voice

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 1>the way it is. Good teammate you are. He's a

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 1>good teammate. I'm not looking for Smith's replacement, which I

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 1>think you can find a guy who can do the

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 1>job of swing tackle in free agency or with a

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 1>later round draft pick. Do you think do you think

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 1>that Byron Bell is a suitable replace, a suitable swing tackle?

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought, I think if Tyron Smith is healthier than

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 1>he was this year, yeah, probably, Yeah, No he is.

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Are you expecting him to be healthier than he I

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 1>trust that he can do it. He's got to be

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 1>healthier than he was this year. Well, but he he

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 1>only missed two games, right, it's three games, three games,

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and I keep forgetting that and not on even count

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:08.240
<v Speaker 1>that he missed three games, he would not have missed

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the third game, and what he missed about fifty practice.

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:13.440
<v Speaker 1>He missed five games. Really, I mean, yeah, he missed

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:16.360
<v Speaker 1>three games, but he was out after three plays against Seattle,

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 1>so that is okay. So that's that's that's Atlanta. That's

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 1>even farther on my point, though, he should have met

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>or you could say there were five games that were

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 1>that he was out for an extended period of time.

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 1>Do you expect that he's going to somehow be miraculously

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 1>able to play sixteen games next year? Yes, I just

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I trust him. He's a freaking All pro. If he's

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:37.959
<v Speaker 1>he's got a shot to be a Hall of Fame

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 1>caliber player from this generation. That's true. I do you

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 1>are you sort of doubting it? And do you think

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:45.840
<v Speaker 1>others are doubting it. I'm sort of doubting it because

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:48.360
<v Speaker 1>because of the nature of his injury, injury for the

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 1>last two years, that back injury has been persistent for

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 1>two years. Backstone just miraculously get better. I don't think

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:57.880
<v Speaker 1>it plays all sixteen games next Year's because I go

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:00.839
<v Speaker 1>that way, you're gonna go the other way. I'm with him,

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 1>not because of you doing it. It's because you're not

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:07.359
<v Speaker 1>going to be alone this offseason and doing it. And

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:09.759
<v Speaker 1>I think Tyrn's gonna say watch this, and I think

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna play sixteen games now. I do think he

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 1>needs to level great question, Yeah, but I think so.

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think his level drops off that much. It

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:23.319
<v Speaker 1>drops off a but here's the thing. When he gets hurt,

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:26.400
<v Speaker 1>he gives up a sack, like, stop the presses, Like

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>he gives up a sack, what's wrong with him? Right?

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>But when he's not hurt, you're like, are they even

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>have anyone over there? Yeah? You know, like is anybody playing?

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I just I'm not. I'm not betting against

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>the player of his caliber. I remember, like people thought

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 1>DeMarcus Ware was never gonna play again, they cut him.

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:42.960
<v Speaker 1>He went to Denver and put up like thirty sacks

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:45.800
<v Speaker 1>in three years and won a Super Bowl. But it

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 1>seems like we're going like extremes. I'm not saying that

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>it's time to cut him, but not saying but not

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:52.919
<v Speaker 1>still a great place. The Hall of Fame point is,

0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:56.319
<v Speaker 1>if you trust him to be what he is, then

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>swing tackle is not as absurd of a need as

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 1>as it might be if you don't. That's but I

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.359
<v Speaker 1>think there's a middle ground here, and I think there is. Yes,

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 1>he is still a great player. Yes, he's probably arguably

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 1>one of the top one to three players on this team.

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 1>But the fact of the matter is after an injury,

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 1>like a back injury, shows up and it's persistent over

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years. I think you'd be foolish not

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 1>to be thinking about having a plan in the event

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 1>that that back which problem can do have a plan,

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's don't leave the backup hanging out to dry

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:31.400
<v Speaker 1>when he's gone. Don't do next man up, scrap it,

0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:34.799
<v Speaker 1>throw it away. Next man up sucks because it's not

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:37.880
<v Speaker 1>next man up. Don't just say Chaz, you got it,

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 1>just like Tyron, we're counting on you doesn't work? And

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 1>how many sacks did Clayborne need to figure out that's

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:48.839
<v Speaker 1>not working? True? Let me put it in a more

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:52.359
<v Speaker 1>simple terms. I guess like if Tyrn is a real

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:55.799
<v Speaker 1>problem that you can't count on, tackle becomes like a

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 1>first round type of need, it's I think if it

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 1>as a third to fifth round type of need, like

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 1>you need to address it. You need to have a

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 1>plan in place. It's not a five alarm fire. That's

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 1>how I feel about it. All right, let's go ahead

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>and check our final break when we come back. The

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 1>next question we're gonna have for you, guys, is, assuming

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>one of these two will not be here, who are

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 1>you more certain it will be either Orlando Scandrick or

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Dez Bryant. Well, do that when we come right back.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to the Break, Welcome Back, final segment of The

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<v Speaker 1>Nick take it away. You know, Tommy John, when you're

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 1>in the mornings. You know, most people are kind of

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 1>lazy in the mornings. They're just tired. I know, I

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 1>am ye this morning exactly. Tommy John takes away laziness.

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:40.240
<v Speaker 1>What it does, pull out the drawer, you're like, other brand,

0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:44.360
<v Speaker 1>other brand, sorry, Michael Jordan, other brand, you know, and

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 1>then you're like, wait, they're in the dryer. Do you

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:49.839
<v Speaker 1>just take the other brand? Or do you go kind

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:52.680
<v Speaker 1>of half wet walk around all the way to the dryer. Yeah,

0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:55.399
<v Speaker 1>the visual, think about it everything and you go hell

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 1>of an insight into what next moning and you get it.

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Hope the kids aren't up, maybe they are scary. Anyways,

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 1>cuts down your lazyness because you definitely want to get

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Tommy John. You want to put Tommy John regardless, it

0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter if it's just a normal Wins day or not.

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<v Speaker 1>So Tommy John. You'll go all the way to the

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 1>driving John. Get Tommy John. It's freedom, it's it's the

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 1>comfortable feel and it fights laziness. Allen once Tommy John

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:23.600
<v Speaker 1>dot com forwards last Cowboy twenty percent off the first order.

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:26.359
<v Speaker 1>When I put on the competitor's product, like on a day,

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 1>if I don't have any Tommy John available, it's like,

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:32.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, I guess, I guess I'll put these on.

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I wish I had some Tommy John. Yeah. So anyway, okay,

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 1>all right, thank you Nick. All Right, let's get back

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:41.320
<v Speaker 1>to our questions. This is this has been fun. You

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 1>guys didn't answer the last question, but that's okay. Well,

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 1>safety safety all right, Amber Safety? Yeah, um, sorry, I'm

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 1>assuming you're replacing Jones, right, yes, okay, Amber, Wow, it's

0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Speaker 1>sad of it replacing Byron. Well, I'm saying it's on.

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, like, which, if you're gonna get safety,

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:05.759
<v Speaker 1>then who's got which guy is gonna get replaced? If

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna if I was gonna add a badass

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 1>safety to this team, I'd feel more comfortable pairing him

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:13.320
<v Speaker 1>with Jeff. Assuming this is a safety who's a badass

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 1>and pass coverage, which is what I want. I kind

0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 1>of agree with you. So anyway, I know people don't

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:21.200
<v Speaker 1>like it, but I still I don't know if Cheeto's

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 1>not a better safety. But god, you're still on that, Yeah,

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I am. It's not like he was that great. He

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 1>was good, but he just a lot of time and

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 1>he and I think that the for what he was

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 1>as a rookie with the time he missed during training camp,

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:37.880
<v Speaker 1>he was. He was right up there with where my

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:40.279
<v Speaker 1>expectations were for What do you I think he could

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:42.839
<v Speaker 1>be a really good safe. What tells you that other

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 1>than his body type, like he's a big, sturdy guy.

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Other than that, I mean, well being seen him do it? Well,

0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 1>this is what I've seen. I see that Byron Jones

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:55.319
<v Speaker 1>gets trucked all the time. He is lighting the ass

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to safety, he gets run over a lot.

0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>He's not body type is not built for that. I

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 1>don't care what Marshawn Lint said and did he's the

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>one that went backwards. Yeah, yeah, Cheeto went down. Cheeto

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 1>had a nice hit on him and Marshawn went backwards.

0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:14.720
<v Speaker 1>That physical presence is something that I think this team

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 1>needs at safety. And I think he's got playmaking skills

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:20.920
<v Speaker 1>and I know that people want this. You find a corner.

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 1>You need to keep him. I get it, but I

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 1>think that you're also looking for safety, and of course

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:28.759
<v Speaker 1>I hate the guy that moves back and forth. I

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:30.439
<v Speaker 1>don't mean to talk out of both sides of my mouth,

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:33.319
<v Speaker 1>but I think this early on in the game, I

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:35.800
<v Speaker 1>would not be surprised if he would be a better safety.

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 1>My thing is, if he moves to safety, you've just

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:39.800
<v Speaker 1>created a new hole at cornerback. Because I believe that

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:41.920
<v Speaker 1>those two rookies will be your starting cornerback going in

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 1>the cart and starting cornerbacks going into next year. Well

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:48.560
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be our next question. But if you if

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 1>you move him to safety, now you have a spot

0:42:51.560 --> 0:42:53.320
<v Speaker 1>at corner you got to try to fill at Iron's

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 1>right right now, Byron's not a corner Though Byron he

0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 1>had an opportunity to play corner, he was not impressive.

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 1>So are you get that on five days notice in

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:04.839
<v Speaker 1>the middle of a lost season. Either way, here he

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:07.399
<v Speaker 1>is not in my opinion, he's not a cornerback. Okay, now,

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:09.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe he's not a safety either, but I don't think

0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 1>he's a cornerback. So not a corner and he's not

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:13.759
<v Speaker 1>a safety, then he's not a Cowboy in a couple

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:16.720
<v Speaker 1>of years. Cool, he's a hell of a punt gunner

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 1>special teams. All right, let's get the next question. Who

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:22.919
<v Speaker 1>if you had to choose between the two of these,

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:24.720
<v Speaker 1>are you more certain will not be with the Dallas

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:29.439
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys in twenty eighteen, Orlando Scandrick or Dez Bryant if

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:32.719
<v Speaker 1>this next year, Yeah, you gotta choose one, which would

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 1>you be more certain is not going to be here?

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:38.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not one hundred percent confidence that they

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:40.120
<v Speaker 1>both won't be here, Okay, but if I had to

0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 1>choose one, and I think it's more likely Standard he

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:44.839
<v Speaker 1>has gone because because Dez has not set in front

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:48.439
<v Speaker 1>of his locker and said goodbye, see y'all and done

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:50.960
<v Speaker 1>his ode to the Cowboys. Yeah, I get thanks for

0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:54.279
<v Speaker 1>the good times. Contract Wise, from a contract standpoint, it

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:56.360
<v Speaker 1>makes more sense to keep sand yeah, right, and to

0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:59.800
<v Speaker 1>keep I think it's I think maybe it's wishful thinking

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 1>on scandricks part, like he just wants to be out there, yeah,

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:04.720
<v Speaker 1>and like not like he's not like he's not happy

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 1>here or he doesn't like the organization, but like you

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 1>see the writing on the wall, You're like, there's three

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:11.479
<v Speaker 1>young guys that they feel pretty good about four Really,

0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 1>if you include Xavier Woods, they played really well. Oh

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:18.400
<v Speaker 1>tell my contract, Yeah, my contract is bigger than these guys.

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:20.520
<v Speaker 1>It makes sense to get rid of me. I can

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 1>go get another contract with a fresh guarantee in a

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:26.080
<v Speaker 1>new situation where the team kind of wants me around

0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:28.080
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more like I see his point. Yeah,

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:30.839
<v Speaker 1>gets from his perspective that maybe a fresh start would

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:33.719
<v Speaker 1>be in his best interest. So, you know, I have

0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:35.840
<v Speaker 1>a hard time believe in that. You know, the Cowboys

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 1>are really intimating to him that he's gone. I think

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:41.359
<v Speaker 1>he's just kind of like, maybe maybe a fresh start

0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:43.239
<v Speaker 1>would be a good thing for any any sort of

0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 1>truth be told. He tried this after the draft too.

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, in my opinion, he drove that story about

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:52.040
<v Speaker 1>the trade. You know, he said that the Cowboys were

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:54.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, that he felt like he was being shopped,

0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 1>when really that wasn't the case. And I think he

0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:59.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't like what he saw on draft day or draft weekend,

0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:03.399
<v Speaker 1>and he tried to sort of force the Cowboys hand

0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 1>and they weren't biting, and they're like, now we want

0:45:05.560 --> 0:45:07.800
<v Speaker 1>you back. So I think if it's like two point

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:10.160
<v Speaker 1>five or three million or something. I mean, he's not

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:12.720
<v Speaker 1>He's not making a lot this year, and it doesn't

0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:14.560
<v Speaker 1>make sense to cut him before the draft. I mean,

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:17.759
<v Speaker 1>if you go get another defensive back, great, but otherwise,

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:21.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, Cheetos had injury problems. Yeah, he can play

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 1>inside and outside. You need four or five cornerbacks to

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:27.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, feel the good NFL defense these days. So

0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:30.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not in this huge hurry to get rid of

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Orlando scandrid so. But all of that said, for some reason,

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:38.439
<v Speaker 1>I still think it's more likely than he's gone than death.

0:45:39.280 --> 0:45:41.359
<v Speaker 1>It's just hard to see a scenario where I mean,

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:43.759
<v Speaker 1>I know it, there's there's reasons why, and you can

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:46.400
<v Speaker 1>make an argument as to why, but it's still hard

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 1>to think DEAs won't be on this team in twenty

0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:51.520
<v Speaker 1>eighteen because he's been so important to what the Cowboys

0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:55.400
<v Speaker 1>do for all these years. I just, you know, I

0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 1>just said, you know, past experiences color my opinions. I

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:01.360
<v Speaker 1>saw DeMarcus Ware a bounce back from injury and play well,

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:05.239
<v Speaker 1>like I you know, for the Wow, I'm contradicting myself

0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 1>because they did cut to Marcus Ware. But like, yes,

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 1>they did. Seventy five percent of the time. When we

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 1>get into these you know, raging speculations about a guy's contract,

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 1>usually nothing happens. Like that's usually what happens. Yeah, So

0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:20.960
<v Speaker 1>you think des would be I know he said he's

0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 1>not taking a pay cut. Do you think he'd be

0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:25.680
<v Speaker 1>willing to restructure his deal such that he could still

0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:28.120
<v Speaker 1>make the same amount of money if he hit certain incentives.

0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:30.480
<v Speaker 1>So then it's more of an incentive based contract, and

0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 1>it allows the Cowboys to have a little bit more

0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:35.799
<v Speaker 1>protection that if they're going to pay that amount, they're

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:39.880
<v Speaker 1>paying it for great production. If I'm Dez Bryant, I

0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:44.280
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't do anything that's gonna allow my money to be affected.

0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Like I want what, I would just say, either cut

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 1>me or keep me where I am. Yeah, because if

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:50.520
<v Speaker 1>you cut me, I'll go sign another deal with another team. Yeah,

0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:53.439
<v Speaker 1>if you don't get cut to June first, a guy

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:55.640
<v Speaker 1>of Dez Bryan's caliber, and I know he had a

0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 1>really bad year, a guy of his caliber would get

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:02.320
<v Speaker 1>snatched up real quick. Think, Ye is he getting the

0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:05.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of one year deal that that al Shan Jeffrey

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:07.840
<v Speaker 1>got last year? Like it? Maybe will he have to?

0:47:07.920 --> 0:47:09.480
<v Speaker 1>It will be one of those prove it prove it

0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:11.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of contract, he will get less money, but he

0:47:11.440 --> 0:47:13.560
<v Speaker 1>would still get money. Now I get that. But if

0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:15.520
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna get less money, then is it is it

0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:17.920
<v Speaker 1>better for him than to say, Hey, I'm gonna take

0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 1>a contract where I'm gonna still make the amount I

0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:22.360
<v Speaker 1>probably would make in the free agent market as a guarantee,

0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 1>but the amount that I could make an incentives can

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:26.640
<v Speaker 1>get me right back up to where I would have

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:28.520
<v Speaker 1>been in the first place. You know, I think if

0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:33.879
<v Speaker 1>his agent thinks about it, Terrell Tarrell prior or Terrell Prior. Yeah,

0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:38.759
<v Speaker 1>one year, eight million, so he could probably get me.

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:40.800
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna get ten then, right, So if the Cowboys

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:42.840
<v Speaker 1>would give him eight million, let's say, the contract that

0:47:42.880 --> 0:47:45.720
<v Speaker 1>they could restructure would give him eight million, let's say,

0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:48.960
<v Speaker 1>and then with incentives he could get up to sixteen million.

0:47:49.480 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Does that seem like a fair thing for the Cowboys?

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:54.759
<v Speaker 1>In for Dez and that it just seems like that

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:58.560
<v Speaker 1>hurts your salary cap though, Desert. Yeah, because well you'd

0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:01.080
<v Speaker 1>give it if you'd extend the contrac track. So now

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:03.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of that can be extrapolated to this. Whatever

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:05.279
<v Speaker 1>the signing bonus would be for that can be extrapolated

0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:06.880
<v Speaker 1>over the years of the contract. I do think and

0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that you're saying this, but people kind

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:11.879
<v Speaker 1>of forget this about incentives to throw that in. When

0:48:11.920 --> 0:48:14.239
<v Speaker 1>you put that into a contract, it has to hit

0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:17.799
<v Speaker 1>the salary cap. Like it's called likely to be earned incentives.

0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 1>And if it is likely to be earned, then you

0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:21.920
<v Speaker 1>have to you have to have the room for it.

0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:25.080
<v Speaker 1>That was like Greg Hardy steal. Yeah, it was very

0:48:25.120 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 1>incentive based, but it still had to account for how

0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:29.239
<v Speaker 1>much it could be worth. Right. Yeah, but even at

0:48:29.320 --> 0:48:31.360
<v Speaker 1>its still at the end of the day, the Cowboys

0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:34.520
<v Speaker 1>still will have on the books whatever he earns, right,

0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:38.040
<v Speaker 1>that protects him at saying it. Let's say he's supposed

0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:40.839
<v Speaker 1>to count thirteen million, you're saying, knock it down to eight.

0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:43.200
<v Speaker 1>But if he plays at this level, it can be

0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:45.480
<v Speaker 1>back at thirteen and you pay for it because you

0:48:45.600 --> 0:48:47.640
<v Speaker 1>got it Pro Bowl exactly. That's the point. And I

0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:49.640
<v Speaker 1>think the Cowboys would be very if they got Dez

0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Bryan from twenty thirteen and they got it at sixteen

0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:54.480
<v Speaker 1>millions for this year. I think they'd be happy with that.

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like asking an hourly. You know, somebody

0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:02.680
<v Speaker 1>own salary to go down to hourly and say, well,

0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:05.239
<v Speaker 1>even if they're gonna get the same amount, same amount,

0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:10.480
<v Speaker 1>you just gotta make sure you work. Knowing Dez Bryan's opportunity,

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 1>we are I mean me and Dez are not close homies,

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:16.560
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. But I mean I know him,

0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:18.719
<v Speaker 1>I've I've got I've built a pretty decent relationship with

0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:20.920
<v Speaker 1>him over the last five years. That doesn't sound like

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:22.960
<v Speaker 1>him to me. He hasn't blocked you. No, he has

0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:26.880
<v Speaker 1>not blocked me. He's nice, it's nice like that. We

0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:30.080
<v Speaker 1>still like other people. Mate. Uh, that doesn't sound like

0:49:30.160 --> 0:49:32.520
<v Speaker 1>him to me. Like if you're like, hey, you, we don't.

0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:34.920
<v Speaker 1>We don't have faith in you to be what you

0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:37.680
<v Speaker 1>are and we want to protect ourselves against you being

0:49:37.719 --> 0:49:40.960
<v Speaker 1>bad again. I like that he's a fiercely proud and

0:49:41.680 --> 0:49:44.000
<v Speaker 1>passionate guy, and I think he would be like, no,

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll just go somewhere where they want me and are

0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:49.440
<v Speaker 1>willing to guarantee me things. And honestly, I mean it

0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:53.000
<v Speaker 1>would arguably be a more pass happy or maybe a

0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:55.239
<v Speaker 1>more veteran quarterback where he can do his thing a

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:58.400
<v Speaker 1>little bit better. So I don't think that will happen.

0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Out of principle. I actually think out of his own principle,

0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I think he would probably take less money to go

0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:05.520
<v Speaker 1>somewhere else than I think so too. Pay cut here,

0:50:05.560 --> 0:50:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I think so too. And that's that seems more like

0:50:07.400 --> 0:50:09.360
<v Speaker 1>what would how Dez would look at it, And just

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:11.440
<v Speaker 1>by his answers to that question, it seems like he

0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:13.239
<v Speaker 1>was very met by the time he got to the

0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:15.319
<v Speaker 1>end of the answer. He's very much against the idea

0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:16.520
<v Speaker 1>that he was gonna take it. Can you remember you

0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:20.440
<v Speaker 1>remember how um what's the word I'm looking for? Dramatic

0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:24.239
<v Speaker 1>and and prideful of those contract negotiate negotiations were when

0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:26.000
<v Speaker 1>he signed this big thing. I mean, it came down

0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:28.520
<v Speaker 1>to the eleventh hour and he you know, on my

0:50:28.719 --> 0:50:31.560
<v Speaker 1>on my family, I won't play a down if I don't,

0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:33.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, if I'm not signed or whatever, blah blah blah.

0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Like it doesn't sound like him to to, you know,

0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:40.239
<v Speaker 1>to agree to that. And it's what I'm trying to say, Well,

0:50:40.440 --> 0:50:42.360
<v Speaker 1>he needs to go if he if he goes anywhere,

0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:43.759
<v Speaker 1>if he gets that that choice, he needs to go

0:50:43.840 --> 0:50:46.399
<v Speaker 1>to a team with a really good quarterback. I mean

0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:49.640
<v Speaker 1>one that's established that's the top a top five or

0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:52.480
<v Speaker 1>six seven quarterback and that's what that's what he needs,

0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:55.279
<v Speaker 1>which I've maybe even already said this on one of

0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 1>our shows. I feel like I repeated all the time,

0:50:57.000 --> 0:51:00.120
<v Speaker 1>and you can disagree with me. I in the in

0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:02.520
<v Speaker 1>the grand scheme of things, I still think this team

0:51:02.560 --> 0:51:04.480
<v Speaker 1>is better with him on it than without it. And

0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:07.080
<v Speaker 1>they are in a situation like they can they can

0:51:07.080 --> 0:51:10.040
<v Speaker 1>take that hit if they need to draft a wide

0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:12.719
<v Speaker 1>receiver again, same thing is tiring, Like take steps to

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:15.360
<v Speaker 1>improve your situation, but you don't have to do something

0:51:15.400 --> 0:51:17.960
<v Speaker 1>as dramatic as blow it all up this offseason. You

0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:21.080
<v Speaker 1>can deal with that next year. Or if if the

0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:23.719
<v Speaker 1>nineteenth overall pick in the draft, it's this amazing wide

0:51:23.719 --> 0:51:26.359
<v Speaker 1>receiver then and you want to play hardball with him

0:51:26.640 --> 0:51:29.280
<v Speaker 1>and you're confident that Christian Kirk can be your number

0:51:29.280 --> 0:51:30.920
<v Speaker 1>one going in the next season. You can cut him

0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:33.040
<v Speaker 1>in the summer if you're just hell bent on doing it.

0:51:33.080 --> 0:51:36.480
<v Speaker 1>But it's not a thing that I think needs to happen,

0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:39.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, between now and in the draft. Not a

0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:41.759
<v Speaker 1>fan of the Aggies, never have been. They always beat

0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:45.200
<v Speaker 1>my team the last few years is because of that guy,

0:51:45.280 --> 0:51:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Christian Kirk. Tired of him doing really so you know

0:51:49.400 --> 0:51:52.480
<v Speaker 1>what will be there around it? Yeah, I don't know

0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:55.200
<v Speaker 1>that that's that's a it's hard to know. Yeah, he's

0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:57.920
<v Speaker 1>probably a late first round guy, I would imagine, but

0:51:58.280 --> 0:52:00.640
<v Speaker 1>it sounds realistic to me to think that he would

0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:03.560
<v Speaker 1>be there the nineteen. That's a guy worth looking at

0:52:03.600 --> 0:52:06.920
<v Speaker 1>for sure. Maybe. All right, final question, this is a

0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:09.160
<v Speaker 1>true or false question. Cowboys need to find a new

0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:12.600
<v Speaker 1>option to compete with Dan Bailey for the kicker job

0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:14.440
<v Speaker 1>next season? True or false? Trying to get us to

0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:16.880
<v Speaker 1>fire like all of the teams, I'm just asking the

0:52:16.960 --> 0:52:18.960
<v Speaker 1>questions fans are asking. I want to get your opinion,

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:20.920
<v Speaker 1>to get you on record, and but let's start with you.

0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:24.720
<v Speaker 1>True or false false false. I one hundred percent believe

0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:29.600
<v Speaker 1>in Dan's ability to kick the ball and all that.

0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I just think he'll have to take this whole off

0:52:33.040 --> 0:52:35.479
<v Speaker 1>season and just kind of get back into his own

0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:38.759
<v Speaker 1>groove and that whole thing was mentally. He just needs

0:52:38.800 --> 0:52:43.120
<v Speaker 1>to get over that. Keep kicking the ball easy to say, Well,

0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:45.520
<v Speaker 1>all it takes is you just being on the field

0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:48.040
<v Speaker 1>and keep kicking it until you gain your confidence back.

0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:51.080
<v Speaker 1>And there's a whole season to do so, I mean

0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:55.520
<v Speaker 1>injury wise, he said he's good, so nothing to deal

0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:58.799
<v Speaker 1>with the injury. So apparently on that aspect he's good.

0:52:58.960 --> 0:53:01.319
<v Speaker 1>It's all mentally and he just needs to go back

0:53:01.320 --> 0:53:03.319
<v Speaker 1>to that point and he has several months to do so,

0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Dave in my lifetime and I I mean, you know,

0:53:07.320 --> 0:53:11.200
<v Speaker 1>short lifetime exactly, thank you. Wow. How many a short life?

0:53:11.239 --> 0:53:16.520
<v Speaker 1>How many NFL kickers have just like gracefully aged, you know,

0:53:16.600 --> 0:53:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Adam Vinati, Morton Anderson, Morton Anderson maybe maybe, said Baston Janikowski. Maybe.

0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what his stats have looked, like he

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:26.879
<v Speaker 1>was on IR this year, But like kickers just kind

0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:28.719
<v Speaker 1>of lose it. Man, I'm like, you know, I'm I'm

0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I grew up a Saints fan. Garrett Hartley when they

0:53:31.560 --> 0:53:34.640
<v Speaker 1>won the Super Bowl a decade ago. Young guy, young guy,

0:53:34.800 --> 0:53:36.920
<v Speaker 1>four of the biggest kicks in the history of the franchise,

0:53:36.960 --> 0:53:39.479
<v Speaker 1>got him to the Super Bowl, kicked three forty five

0:53:39.480 --> 0:53:41.360
<v Speaker 1>plus yarders to keep him in the Super Bowl and

0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:43.640
<v Speaker 1>help him win it. Thought he would be their kicker

0:53:43.680 --> 0:53:47.359
<v Speaker 1>for a decade, Like within two years he's out. Like

0:53:47.400 --> 0:53:50.200
<v Speaker 1>when you lose it, you lose it. I don't know

0:53:50.280 --> 0:53:52.200
<v Speaker 1>for sure that that's going to happen with Dan Bailey.

0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:54.560
<v Speaker 1>It seems crazy to me to think that it would

0:53:55.040 --> 0:53:57.799
<v Speaker 1>because he's been so amazing for so many years, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they're gonna give him every opportunity to get

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<v Speaker 1>back on track. But I've seen this happen with enough

0:54:03.160 --> 0:54:05.600
<v Speaker 1>other kickers that I'm just I can't give him the

0:54:05.640 --> 0:54:08.560
<v Speaker 1>same blind vote of confidence that I'll give Tyrant Smith,

0:54:08.640 --> 0:54:10.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I just it's the nature of the position.

0:54:11.719 --> 0:54:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Hold on, you said, Adam Vinetary, Gary Anderson, Morton Anderson,

0:54:17.440 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 1>those those kickers. Now, Sebastian Janikowski's been with the same team.

0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:23.160
<v Speaker 1>But you say they lose it, they lose it, right,

0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:25.200
<v Speaker 1>they lose it with one team, they lose it. You

0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:27.759
<v Speaker 1>can rEFInd it, right, But sometimes having to have that

0:54:27.840 --> 0:54:31.440
<v Speaker 1>different environment, like Robbie Golds, he's kind of resurrected his career,

0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:33.480
<v Speaker 1>but he was he was on a bad role there

0:54:33.520 --> 0:54:35.759
<v Speaker 1>with Who's Your Boy? Your boy? That was with the

0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:39.279
<v Speaker 1>Eagles forever Acres, Yeah, yeah, Acres. He found new life

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:40.759
<v Speaker 1>with the forty nine ers for a while. I mean,

0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:42.400
<v Speaker 1>but sometimes you have to kind of get that new

0:54:42.440 --> 0:54:44.720
<v Speaker 1>seam or you can do that. To answer your question,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say yes, I do think there needs to be

0:54:47.200 --> 0:54:51.520
<v Speaker 1>some competition, like there always is. There's a competition because

0:54:51.840 --> 0:54:54.480
<v Speaker 1>they don't want him to waste all, you know, right,

0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:56.560
<v Speaker 1>So so there's not really competition as much as there

0:54:56.680 --> 0:54:58.520
<v Speaker 1>is just somebody that can kick in his place so

0:54:58.560 --> 0:55:00.319
<v Speaker 1>that you don't have to use him up this year.

0:55:00.320 --> 0:55:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that person needs to be a legitimate competitor,

0:55:02.640 --> 0:55:07.720
<v Speaker 1>somebody that that's played in the league and all that. Um, yeah, yeah,

0:55:07.760 --> 0:55:09.759
<v Speaker 1>I think so. I think in these and I wrote

0:55:09.840 --> 0:55:11.920
<v Speaker 1>that right after the game, I said that the same thing.

0:55:12.000 --> 0:55:13.719
<v Speaker 1>I think this year there needs to be a little

0:55:13.719 --> 0:55:16.560
<v Speaker 1>bit more of a competition for him. But um, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you have to do that. That roster spot has

0:55:19.200 --> 0:55:22.920
<v Speaker 1>been a foregone conclusion for about four years running, I

0:55:22.960 --> 0:55:25.520
<v Speaker 1>mean since I got here, really, like you really haven't

0:55:25.520 --> 0:55:30.960
<v Speaker 1>thought about it. And he as bad as Dan as

0:55:30.960 --> 0:55:33.439
<v Speaker 1>it looks. For Dan, it's worse in his own mind.

0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:35.640
<v Speaker 1>That's what he said after the game. It's worse than

0:55:35.680 --> 0:55:38.080
<v Speaker 1>you think it is. Well, yeah, but that's his makes

0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:41.879
<v Speaker 1>he's he he doesn't he's not excited about the one

0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:44.640
<v Speaker 1>that hits the upright and goes in. That's a miss

0:55:44.640 --> 0:55:46.680
<v Speaker 1>to him. Yes, that's why if you look out here,

0:55:46.920 --> 0:55:48.560
<v Speaker 1>and if if you go out to the Star and

0:55:48.640 --> 0:55:52.359
<v Speaker 1>you see the on one end zone, he's got very

0:55:52.719 --> 0:55:56.680
<v Speaker 1>probably half of the distance between the two uprights on

0:55:56.680 --> 0:55:59.080
<v Speaker 1>one of them. Like, that's what he that's why he

0:55:59.320 --> 0:56:02.279
<v Speaker 1>aims for that, That's what he's playing off of. That's

0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:04.560
<v Speaker 1>what freaks me out though, is like it's gonna bother

0:56:04.719 --> 0:56:07.840
<v Speaker 1>him more than it's gonna bother Jason Garrett probably feels

0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:10.480
<v Speaker 1>fine about Dan Bailey right now, but that's a problem too.

0:56:10.560 --> 0:56:12.839
<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett's always felt fine. You know, a fifty six

0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:15.040
<v Speaker 1>yard field goal, run him out there, all he missed,

0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:18.200
<v Speaker 1>he missed, Yeah, and it's first and ten San Francisco

0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:20.480
<v Speaker 1>in the forty six. Now, because of that, why don't

0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:22.359
<v Speaker 1>you use your all pro punter, who should be an

0:56:22.360 --> 0:56:24.759
<v Speaker 1>all pro get him down to the ten. How many

0:56:24.840 --> 0:56:29.160
<v Speaker 1>years has Dan Bailey been here? Eleven since twenty eleven,

0:56:29.200 --> 0:56:36.680
<v Speaker 1>since seven years, seven years, and he's been pretty perfect, right, Yeah,

0:56:36.719 --> 0:56:39.960
<v Speaker 1>this first year you had any questions about Dan Bailey? Right? Right?

0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:43.440
<v Speaker 1>So your leg is already trained to do all that,

0:56:43.600 --> 0:56:47.240
<v Speaker 1>right and if you're going back, so that's in your system.

0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:50.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like you walking or however you train your muscle

0:56:50.760 --> 0:56:55.480
<v Speaker 1>muscle memory. If his injury is good as it's supposed

0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:58.360
<v Speaker 1>to be, he just needs to get over that mental

0:56:58.480 --> 0:57:00.960
<v Speaker 1>and he will. I'm one hundred percent confident that he

0:57:01.080 --> 0:57:03.839
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be fine. It's all mental. He just needs

0:57:03.880 --> 0:57:07.160
<v Speaker 1>to spend this whole season just you know, kicking, getting

0:57:07.239 --> 0:57:10.520
<v Speaker 1>past that. And like Garrett said, looking back as his career,

0:57:10.920 --> 0:57:13.520
<v Speaker 1>all the great thing he's done, and he has so

0:57:13.600 --> 0:57:17.760
<v Speaker 1>much support in this organization that mentally that's gonna be

0:57:17.840 --> 0:57:22.640
<v Speaker 1>comfort comforting into him. That's a really interesting point because

0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I was about to come back at you and say, well,

0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:27.320
<v Speaker 1>it's always mental issues that derail kickers. That's it's a

0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:31.400
<v Speaker 1>cliche that they're head cases. But if there's an organization

0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:34.400
<v Speaker 1>where a kicker is valued as like a member of

0:57:34.440 --> 0:57:36.160
<v Speaker 1>the team and a member of the family, you know,

0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:38.200
<v Speaker 1>like you hear all these stories about how kickers are

0:57:38.280 --> 0:57:40.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of apart, Like, that's not the case here. Yeah,

0:57:40.960 --> 0:57:43.880
<v Speaker 1>And everybody's seeing how much good he's done over the

0:57:43.920 --> 0:57:45.600
<v Speaker 1>course of seven He's got a lot of sport. If

0:57:45.600 --> 0:57:48.640
<v Speaker 1>there is a place where he is going to be supported,

0:57:48.640 --> 0:57:50.720
<v Speaker 1>it's here, So that definitely works in his favor. I

0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:52.600
<v Speaker 1>completely agree with that. Yeah, the only thing that I

0:57:52.640 --> 0:57:55.640
<v Speaker 1>would say about that Amber on the flip side is that, yeah,

0:57:55.680 --> 0:57:58.440
<v Speaker 1>it all makes sense from standpoint a muscle memory. And

0:57:58.520 --> 0:58:01.040
<v Speaker 1>you're saying that it's just a mental thing. But that's

0:58:01.120 --> 0:58:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the issue when you're talking about kickers, the mental part

0:58:04.040 --> 0:58:06.480
<v Speaker 1>of it. Probably more than almost any other position on

0:58:06.520 --> 0:58:09.000
<v Speaker 1>the field, the mental part of it. I've seen derail

0:58:09.160 --> 0:58:11.720
<v Speaker 1>really good kickers. I'm talking about guys who were money

0:58:11.800 --> 0:58:14.280
<v Speaker 1>kickers that all of a sudden just lost it. The

0:58:14.320 --> 0:58:19.600
<v Speaker 1>guy that was in Minnesota, Blair Walsh, Yeah, yeah, they

0:58:19.680 --> 0:58:21.880
<v Speaker 1>ended up. I mean, he was a really good kicker,

0:58:21.920 --> 0:58:23.360
<v Speaker 1>one of the best in the league, and all of

0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:25.960
<v Speaker 1>a sudden he could make field goals anymore. And he

0:58:26.040 --> 0:58:28.040
<v Speaker 1>ends up in Seattle because he just couldn't make field

0:58:28.080 --> 0:58:30.440
<v Speaker 1>goals anymore. And that's the part that worries me a

0:58:30.440 --> 0:58:32.200
<v Speaker 1>little bit. I'm not saying get rid of him, but

0:58:32.280 --> 0:58:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I do think you have to at least have some

0:58:34.120 --> 0:58:35.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of contingency in the event you get back to

0:58:35.920 --> 0:58:38.400
<v Speaker 1>training camp next year and you're still having Glad it

0:58:38.520 --> 0:58:41.439
<v Speaker 1>happened in the last month of the season, because had

0:58:41.480 --> 0:58:43.440
<v Speaker 1>it been at the beginning of the season and he

0:58:43.520 --> 0:58:46.520
<v Speaker 1>had gone game after game just screwing up. Then I

0:58:46.560 --> 0:58:48.680
<v Speaker 1>would feel a lot worse because now he had a

0:58:48.720 --> 0:58:52.280
<v Speaker 1>longer period of failer. Yeah, where he's like, Okay, I'm

0:58:52.320 --> 0:58:55.080
<v Speaker 1>screwing up, and now it's a longer time period. This

0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:57.560
<v Speaker 1>happened towards the end of the season. Four games he

0:58:57.680 --> 0:59:01.560
<v Speaker 1>was out, then he comes back and he has the

0:59:01.600 --> 0:59:04.640
<v Speaker 1>whole offseason to work on that. So I'm just thinking

0:59:04.640 --> 0:59:08.640
<v Speaker 1>of Okay, time wise, it wasn't enough to where I'm

0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:12.640
<v Speaker 1>worried too, like, Okay, now he's absolutely mentally screwed up. Ye.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we appreciate you guys joining us. We're back

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<v Speaker 1>next Wednesday. We're gonna talk a little about free agencies

0:59:17.680 --> 0:59:19.840
<v Speaker 1>next week, talk about some of the players at the

0:59:19.880 --> 0:59:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys have. They have a ton of free agents this year,

0:59:21.680 --> 0:59:23.360
<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna talk about some of those and who

0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:26.160
<v Speaker 1>we think the Cowboys should make a priority to resign.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll do that all the next next week till then

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<v Speaker 1>for Nick Even, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagels

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