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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: wa with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, January third, twenty eighteen, Season thirteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number ninety eight. Welcome to another edition of The Break,

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Speaker 1: live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys taking some time with us today

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Speaker 1: to talk some Cowboys football. We're into our offseason schedule.

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Speaker 1: In case you haven't noticed, there's one show per day.

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Speaker 1: Each of the different podcasts that we have will be

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Speaker 1: going once a week throughout the offseason, all the way

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Speaker 1: until we get to about June after the final mini camp,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll take about a month hiatus as we

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Speaker 1: do every year, and then we'll be back at training.

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Speaker 1: Are you doing It's gonna go quickly. Huh, what are

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Speaker 1: you doing? I'm telling people what to expect. What do

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Speaker 1: you mean? What am I doing? January third, Yes, Like,

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Speaker 1: let me just let me just breathe for a second.

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Speaker 1: Fans want to know. These things got me doing the

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Speaker 1: draft show tomorrow. You got me going to training camp today?

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Speaker 1: Will all right? Cool? Yep? All right, So let's let's

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Speaker 1: get into it. We got a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 1: We have not been on the air since the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: had their scintillating final game of the season. They win

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Speaker 1: don't think it inspired a whole lot of confidence in

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Speaker 1: most fans that watched the game. But a win is

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Speaker 1: a win. Cowboys in with a nine and seven record,

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Speaker 1: so they have a winning record, don't make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And real quick, before we do what we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: guys for a season review. I just real quickly want

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Speaker 1: them ending nine and seven. Let's start with you, Nick,

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Speaker 1: what's your your final thought on this twenty seventeen season. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean I thought it was. It was an ugly

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Speaker 1: meaningful for him. Amber. No, it was definitely surprising to

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Speaker 1: just it's bad to see. Okay, yeah, now you have

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a moral victory to get to nine

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Speaker 1: at the Star. We're doing a season in review today.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about the twenty seventeen season and what happened

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the first question I have for you guys,

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Speaker 1: Which was a bigger impact on this disappointing season. Zeke's suspension,

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Speaker 1: could have gone four and two if those two guys

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Speaker 1: had been healthy during that entire stretch. One way or

427
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Speaker 1: the other, whether Lee helps him play a better defense

428
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 1: against the Chargers down the stretch, whether Tyron helps Dak

429
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: play a better game against the Falcons, I think they

430
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 1: could get one of those wins. If those guys have

431
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 1: been healthy. So, like I said, I mean, I think

432
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 1: all that stuff really goes hand in hand together. The

433
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 1: biggest surprise for me would be shan Lee just because

434
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 1: and you can make an argument for each one of these,

435
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 1: but the whole six situation, yeah, that affected the team.

436
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 1: The team one hundred percent. But you knew that coming

437
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 1: into training camp. You knew everything that was happening. You

438
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: should have been well prepared for in case that did happen.

439
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,120
Speaker 1: How are you going to handle this situation? You knew

440
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith has been dealing with injuries since last year.

441
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: You should have a backup that should be capable to

442
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Speaker 1: handle the job. Meanwhile, he's out. The one thing that

443
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 1: I did not expect was shan Lee being out and

444
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 1: affecting the way he did, Like his absence affected the

445
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 1: whole defense, And that was one unexpected for me and surprising.

446
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,479
Speaker 1: You know, I think when listening to all this, man,

447
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: I think Dave is exactly right that it is all

448
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 1: three and it's not a cop out because when you

449
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: think about it, and in Garrett's press conference yesterday, really

450
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: one game was mentioned over and over and in Atlanta

451
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 1: that was the game that was the game that that

452
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Speaker 1: that just because not only did you what are they

453
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Speaker 1: finish with ten and six? Who the Falcons? Yeah, so

454
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Speaker 1: they're ten and six, you flip those roles, they're in

455
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and all three of what of those things

456
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 1: you just said were a factor in that game. I

457
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: mean the first game without Zeke tyring, they had no

458
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 1: clue how to how to figure that out with time,

459
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Speaker 1: and then Sean Lee gets hurt in the first quarter,

460
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 1: I believe in the game. So that's the one game

461
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Speaker 1: where all three was I mean, I guess I guess Philly.

462
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 1: They were all out for Philly as well. Yeah, but

463
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 1: but but you know, there was the first time to

464
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Speaker 1: kind of deal with it, and I Amber's right, I mean,

465
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Speaker 1: was Zeke they knew that the Zeke's thing was coming,

466
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Speaker 1: and then they should have known that Sean Lee was

467
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Speaker 1: gonna get banged up at some point too. But Atlanta,

468
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: I thought was was the game that cost him everything,

469
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: and all three of those things we're a huge factor

470
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Speaker 1: in that. So I don't think it's bad to say

471
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 1: it's a three way tie. And well and I got

472
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Speaker 1: you know, that creates the narrative kind of going around

473
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Speaker 1: right now, and maybe it's hindsight or maybe it really

474
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 1: was a mistake, but just the way you handled the

475
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: offensive line, I mean, you're you know, you're right. Maybe

476
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Speaker 1: be better prepared, Maybe maybe don't try to turn Chaz

477
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: Green into a guard and then expect them to play

478
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: tackle right off the bat like that, or when I

479
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 1: you know, you can go ten dozen different ways with

480
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: how they might have handled that better. But it's kind

481
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Speaker 1: of pointless right now. All right, let's go to the

482
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: next question. If the Cowboys had to keep one coordinator

483
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Speaker 1: and get rid of one, which would you keep the

484
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator Scotland Hand or the defensive coordinator Rod Mironelli. Again,

485
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: meat today, gotta keep one, gotta let one go. When

486
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: you keep oh damn, I don't pass, no passing. I

487
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: probably Marinelli. Keep Marinelli? Why? Because this defense is trending

488
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: upward they I mean, and I guess you could argue

489
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: that they didn't play a lot of great teams down

490
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: the stretch, but that secondary looked like it really came

491
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: along the pass rush. Honestly, something I thought about yesterday.

492
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: It kind of tapered toward the end. And you can

493
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Speaker 1: blame the David Irving injury if you want or DeMarcus

494
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 1: Lawrence not getting the holding calls he thought he deserved whatever.

495
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: But they finished with thirty two sacks. League lead was

496
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Speaker 1: fifty six, So I mean they fell off the pace

497
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,239
Speaker 1: pretty good. But this for the most part, with the

498
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Speaker 1: exception of that baffling three games stretch when Sean Lee

499
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: was hurt, was pretty solid. I mean, they they held

500
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Speaker 1: what you call it, They held the Chiefs to seventeen points.

501
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: They were allowing nineteen points a game when Lee was

502
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Speaker 1: in the lineup. They were getting sacks. These young dbs

503
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,479
Speaker 1: are getting making plays on balls, and I would imagine,

504
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: you know, with another draft and maybe another free agency period,

505
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: I would imagine you can upgrade the talent on defense

506
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,719
Speaker 1: even further. And then you look at the offense and

507
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: you look at the talent you've accumulated over there and

508
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 1: how good they were last year. And it obviously didn't

509
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 1: work out, but there were things in place to account

510
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Speaker 1: for Zeke. I mean, they felt good about their backup

511
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: running backs going into training camp, at least they said

512
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: they did. They brought back the same receiver corps that

513
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: was very solid last year. I mean, everything was the

514
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: same and the results were not great. But one thing

515
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: to note though, and I went back, I was looking

516
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Speaker 1: at just kind of the season overall. From Week three

517
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: to the final game, that Kansas City game before Zeke

518
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: goes out, Cowboys were scoring. They didn't score any less

519
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: than twenty eight points in a game. They were scoring

520
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 1: a ton of points. Now, I do believe that Zeke

521
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: going out changed everything, and I think the offense and

522
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: you guys talked about it. Then you started getting not

523
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: only Zeke was out, but you had some games where

524
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Speaker 1: Retiring was out and Shawn's out, and you got that

525
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: one game where they all three out. So I think

526
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Speaker 1: there were more things at play, but I think they were.

527
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Speaker 1: They had hit a stride and after a kind of

528
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 1: a first two games with their offense really wasn't clicking.

529
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Speaker 1: So I don't know if I don't think that the

530
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Speaker 1: offense necessarily had. They didn't have as good of a

531
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Speaker 1: season as a year before, but they certainly were hitting

532
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Speaker 1: their stride at the point when Zeke goes out. I

533
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Speaker 1: borrow I'm gonna borrow some logic from Nick, and I'm

534
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: gonna borrow a line from my guy Drake, like from

535
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: that wait in the same sentence, it's so the first

536
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: time that's ever happened. Nothing was the same, not true

537
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: after that game in Atlanta. Yeah, nothing was, That's true,

538
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 1: Like I mean, at whatever you want to blame. I mean,

539
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: the running game kind of found itself after a while,

540
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: even without Zeke and Tyring came back. Like Da Dak

541
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: wasn't the same player from that game on? Really, I mean,

542
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: would you other than I know, I mean he played,

543
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: he played fairly well in the Giants game. I think

544
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett said it was his arguably his guest best

545
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: game of the season. I don't agree with that, just because, again,

546
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: I mean, all plays count at the end of the day,

547
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: but you're talking about a nine yard slant turning into

548
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 1: a fifty yard touchdown and a ten yard slant turning

549
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: into an eighty one yard touchdown. Like stats kind of

550
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Speaker 1: lie in the case that game, in my opinion, like

551
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: I would say Kansas City or probably San Francisco or

552
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: even Green Bay was his best game of the year.

553
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: You got a look who you're playing against too, Yeah, absolutely,

554
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: absolutely so. Just I there are a variety of things

555
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: you can pended on, but the offense just kind of

556
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: went in the tank after that game. Either of you

557
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: guys disagree with that. Would either one of you guys

558
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: say I'd let Marinelli go and keep in hand, try

559
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: to keep I try to get rid of both. Actually,

560
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think so, I guess it would have

561
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: to be. If you have to keep one, I guess

562
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: it would be Marinelli because I really don't like the

563
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: offensive structure here. You know, I keep harping what they

564
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: I think that they need. And there's a reason why

565
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: they don't go get that guy because they don't use them.

566
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: They don't feel like they need them, because that's not

567
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: their offense. So it's me. I don't like that offense.

568
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: I feel like, when you're on the twenty yard line,

569
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: you've got fifty three yards this way, you know, and

570
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: got eighty this way, and they don't use it. They

571
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: play every possession like they're in the red zone. They

572
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: they you know, they don't really think that to go

573
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: thirty forty yards down the field, And I think that's

574
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: a waste. That's a waste of because that that hurts

575
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: your running game overall and hurt your mid receivers if

576
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: you don't ever try to extend it deep. And that's

577
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: not their offense. So because it's not their offense. I

578
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 1: don't really, I'm not agreeing with the scheme with the

579
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: guys that are available as a defensive coordinator. Change your

580
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: thoughts on this. And what I mean by that is

581
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: you got Matt Eberflew sitting there and a lot of

582
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: people respect him as a linebackers coach, but at some

583
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: point he's gonna want an opportunity to be a defensive coordinator.

584
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: And there's going to become a point when that decision

585
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: will be up to him because his contract will be up.

586
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: And are you at all afraid of or wondering about

587
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: losing him? And let's also think about some of the

588
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: guys that are out there. Steve Spagnola you would assume

589
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: might be available. He's a guy that has a totally

590
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: different kind of defense. He's a much more aggressive kind

591
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: of defense. Would you prefer? Does that make you maybe say, Hey,

592
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna have to get rid of one and

593
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: keep one, maybe I'll let the defensive coordinator walk because

594
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: I have other options that I like right now as

595
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: far as defensive coordinators are out there, no, no, no,

596
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: And here's why, girl quick. Yeah, they both need some

597
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,719
Speaker 1: changes there. But if you had to keep one and

598
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Mary Nelly just because even if

599
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: you're not succeeding, as long as I'm seeing progress and

600
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: a little bit of improvement, I'm feeling good and I'm

601
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: happy and content. And when you talk about the offense,

602
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: I never saw any of that. And it's like you

603
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: talk about seeing the same kind of mistakes over and

604
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: over but no changes. No let's try this, or let's

605
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: switch it up here, or let's you know, figure something

606
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: else out after you see week by week the same

607
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: thing happening, at least with Mary Nelly in the defense.

608
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: This year, I'm feeling a lot better. I remember before,

609
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: like going into the draft, my biggest con was the

610
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: pass rush, and now look at this pass rush and

611
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: look at the rookies how well they've been doing in

612
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: the secondary. So there's progress and hope for me in

613
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: that area. Okay, Now, offense, that's a different story. What's funny?

614
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Speaker 1: I mean, and I agree with everything she just said,

615
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: but I think you could make and I just have

616
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: this feeling like continuity is more important to an offense,

617
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, like, what what does it mean for Dak

618
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: Prescott if you change up his whole structure, like it

619
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: could be good obviously. I mean Jared Goff turned his whole.

620
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: I mean, his second season was light years better than

621
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Speaker 1: his first after a change of staff, So it's certainly possible.

622
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Speaker 1: But the comfort of my quarterback is probably my number

623
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Speaker 1: one concern when it comes to making changes like that,

624
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Speaker 1: So like, if they were to make a change, I

625
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: would hope he's heavily involved in it and it's a

626
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: guy that's going to help him grow and get better.

627
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: Whereas you know, I just said Marinelli's the guy that

628
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: I would keep on of the two of them, based

629
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Speaker 1: I mean, based on the returns on this defense sacks takeaway,

630
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: think they have twenty seven in the last three years

631
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: or some very low number like that. There's there's nothing

632
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: this defense does where I'm just like, we can't let

633
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: that guy go, like he's too important to what we do.

634
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: Like what where? Where have you seen that to where

635
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: you think that's true? So, I mean, it's it's on it.

636
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: It's splitting hairs for me. I mean, whichever one where

637
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: to go, I think they could rebound nicely from it.

638
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: But it doesn't really look like either one's gonna go.

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Speaker 1: So okay, let's move on the next question. Let's assume

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Speaker 1: is only one of these things can be addressed in

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Speaker 1: the offseason, which would you address finding a swing tackle,

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Speaker 1: finding a safety, or finding a wide receiver, finding a

643
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Speaker 1: m what kind of wide receiver somebody to replace the

644
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Speaker 1: money that you're spending on days? Oh oh, we tackle

645
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Speaker 1: or number one receiver? Yeah, I mean, I mean, that's

646
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: that's about That's about relative imp trying to kill your game.

647
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Speaker 1: But I'm just I mean, I think it's a different

648
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Speaker 1: question when you're I don't let me explain it. The

649
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Speaker 1: reason why. I don't think that's a I see what

650
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: you're saying. But when you think about it from the

651
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: standpoint of right now, you have a starting left tackle

652
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: who has had back issues the last two years, and

653
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Speaker 1: what we saw this year is when he's out, the

654
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: entire offense changes as much as anybody else. I mean,

655
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: you say it's Zeke, but there's an argument that it

656
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: changed just as drastically when Tyron Smith wasn't in there.

657
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Speaker 1: So that being said, do you still that swing tackle

658
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: position still becomes very important. You're not getting rid of

659
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith, but you got to prepare for the possibility

660
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Speaker 1: that he's going to miss some games because he has

661
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: missed games the last two years. So that being said,

662
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Speaker 1: which one is more important? Having that suing tackle so

663
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Speaker 1: that when he goes down, you've got somebody or having

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver so you don't have to pay the

665
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Speaker 1: amount of money that you're gonna pay to Dez Bryant

666
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,959
Speaker 1: and hopefully get either similar or better production. Clip this

667
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: out and put it on the internet. Hamber, Like I

668
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: refuse to shovel dirt on Tyron Smith. I'm just not

669
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Speaker 1: going to do it. I'm not. I'm not saying shovel Nope,

670
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: but I'm speaking my piece on the question you're asking me.

671
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not doing it. I think he's a

672
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: hell of a player. He's ridiculously tough. The fact that

673
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: he did as much as he did in spite of

674
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: everything that was bothering him is amazing. So it's a

675
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: twing swing tackle not that important for you. It's it's

676
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: obviously important, But I'm not I'm not convinced that I

677
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: need to find his replacement right now. Let's be clear,

678
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the replacement. Can you just let me talk? Yes,

679
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: I want to make sure you've been the conversation focused.

680
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,239
Speaker 1: Just let me talk all right, go. All you've been

681
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: doing is talking for the one that said you didn't

682
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: know how you'd get through the show with your voice

683
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: the way it is. Good teammate you are. He's a

684
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Speaker 1: good teammate. I'm not looking for Smith's replacement, which I

685
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Speaker 1: think you can find a guy who can do the

686
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Speaker 1: job of swing tackle in free agency or with a

687
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Speaker 1: later round draft pick. Do you think do you think

688
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: that Byron Bell is a suitable replace, a suitable swing tackle?

689
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Speaker 1: I thought, I think if Tyron Smith is healthier than

690
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: he was this year, yeah, probably, Yeah, No he is.

691
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Speaker 1: Are you expecting him to be healthier than he I

692
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Speaker 1: trust that he can do it. He's got to be

693
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Speaker 1: healthier than he was this year. Well, but he he

694
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: only missed two games, right, it's three games, three games,

695
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: and I keep forgetting that and not on even count

696
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 1: that he missed three games, he would not have missed

697
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: the third game, and what he missed about fifty practice.

698
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: He missed five games. Really, I mean, yeah, he missed

699
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: three games, but he was out after three plays against Seattle,

700
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: so that is okay. So that's that's that's Atlanta. That's

701
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: even farther on my point, though, he should have met

702
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: or you could say there were five games that were

703
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: that he was out for an extended period of time.

704
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Speaker 1: Do you expect that he's going to somehow be miraculously

705
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: able to play sixteen games next year? Yes, I just

706
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: I trust him. He's a freaking All pro. If he's

707
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,959
Speaker 1: he's got a shot to be a Hall of Fame

708
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: caliber player from this generation. That's true. I do you

709
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: are you sort of doubting it? And do you think

710
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: others are doubting it. I'm sort of doubting it because

711
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: because of the nature of his injury, injury for the

712
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: last two years, that back injury has been persistent for

713
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: two years. Backstone just miraculously get better. I don't think

714
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: it plays all sixteen games next Year's because I go

715
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: that way, you're gonna go the other way. I'm with him,

716
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: not because of you doing it. It's because you're not

717
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: going to be alone this offseason and doing it. And

718
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: I think Tyrn's gonna say watch this, and I think

719
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: he's gonna play sixteen games now. I do think he

720
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: needs to level great question, Yeah, but I think so.

721
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: I don't think his level drops off that much. It

722
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: drops off a but here's the thing. When he gets hurt,

723
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: he gives up a sack, like, stop the presses, Like

724
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: he gives up a sack, what's wrong with him? Right?

725
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: But when he's not hurt, you're like, are they even

726
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: have anyone over there? Yeah? You know, like is anybody playing?

727
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: I'm not. I just I'm not. I'm not betting against

728
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Speaker 1: the player of his caliber. I remember, like people thought

729
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Ware was never gonna play again, they cut him.

730
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: He went to Denver and put up like thirty sacks

731
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: in three years and won a Super Bowl. But it

732
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: seems like we're going like extremes. I'm not saying that

733
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: it's time to cut him, but not saying but not

734
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 1: still a great place. The Hall of Fame point is,

735
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: if you trust him to be what he is, then

736
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: swing tackle is not as absurd of a need as

737
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: as it might be if you don't. That's but I

738
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: think there's a middle ground here, and I think there is. Yes,

739
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: he is still a great player. Yes, he's probably arguably

740
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: one of the top one to three players on this team.

741
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Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is after an injury,

742
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: like a back injury, shows up and it's persistent over

743
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Speaker 1: a couple of years. I think you'd be foolish not

744
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: to be thinking about having a plan in the event

745
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: that that back which problem can do have a plan,

746
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: and it's don't leave the backup hanging out to dry

747
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: when he's gone. Don't do next man up, scrap it,

748
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: throw it away. Next man up sucks because it's not

749
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Speaker 1: next man up. Don't just say Chaz, you got it,

750
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: just like Tyron, we're counting on you doesn't work? And

751
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: how many sacks did Clayborne need to figure out that's

752
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: not working? True? Let me put it in a more

753
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: simple terms. I guess like if Tyrn is a real

754
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: problem that you can't count on, tackle becomes like a

755
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: first round type of need, it's I think if it

756
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: as a third to fifth round type of need, like

757
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: you need to address it. You need to have a

758
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: plan in place. It's not a five alarm fire. That's

759
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: how I feel about it. All right, let's go ahead

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Speaker 1: Nick take it away. You know, Tommy John, when you're

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Speaker 1: in the mornings. You know, most people are kind of

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Speaker 1: What it does, pull out the drawer, you're like, other brand,

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Speaker 1: Hope the kids aren't up, maybe they are scary. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: cuts down your lazyness because you definitely want to get

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Speaker 1: Tommy John. You want to put Tommy John regardless, it

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Speaker 1: When I put on the competitor's product, like on a day,

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Speaker 1: if I don't have any Tommy John available, it's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, I guess, I guess I'll put these on.

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Speaker 1: I wish I had some Tommy John. Yeah. So anyway, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, thank you Nick. All Right, let's get back

831
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Speaker 1: to our questions. This is this has been fun. You

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Speaker 1: guys didn't answer the last question, but that's okay. Well,

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Speaker 1: safety safety all right, Amber Safety? Yeah, um, sorry, I'm

834
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Speaker 1: assuming you're replacing Jones, right, yes, okay, Amber, Wow, it's

835
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Speaker 1: sad of it replacing Byron. Well, I'm saying it's on.

836
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, which, if you're gonna get safety,

837
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Speaker 1: then who's got which guy is gonna get replaced? If

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Speaker 1: I was gonna if I was gonna add a badass

839
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: safety to this team, I'd feel more comfortable pairing him

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Speaker 1: with Jeff. Assuming this is a safety who's a badass

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Speaker 1: and pass coverage, which is what I want. I kind

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Speaker 1: of agree with you. So anyway, I know people don't

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Speaker 1: like it, but I still I don't know if Cheeto's

844
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Speaker 1: not a better safety. But god, you're still on that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I am. It's not like he was that great. He

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Speaker 1: was good, but he just a lot of time and

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Speaker 1: he and I think that the for what he was

848
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: as a rookie with the time he missed during training camp,

849
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: he was. He was right up there with where my

850
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: expectations were for What do you I think he could

851
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: be a really good safe. What tells you that other

852
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: than his body type, like he's a big, sturdy guy.

853
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: Other than that, I mean, well being seen him do it? Well,

854
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: this is what I've seen. I see that Byron Jones

855
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: gets trucked all the time. He is lighting the ass

856
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: when it comes to safety, he gets run over a lot.

857
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: He's not body type is not built for that. I

858
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: don't care what Marshawn Lint said and did he's the

859
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: one that went backwards. Yeah, yeah, Cheeto went down. Cheeto

860
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: had a nice hit on him and Marshawn went backwards.

861
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 1: That physical presence is something that I think this team

862
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: needs at safety. And I think he's got playmaking skills

863
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: and I know that people want this. You find a corner.

864
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: You need to keep him. I get it, but I

865
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: think that you're also looking for safety, and of course

866
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: I hate the guy that moves back and forth. I

867
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 1: don't mean to talk out of both sides of my mouth,

868
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: but I think this early on in the game, I

869
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: would not be surprised if he would be a better safety.

870
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: My thing is, if he moves to safety, you've just

871
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: created a new hole at cornerback. Because I believe that

872
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: those two rookies will be your starting cornerback going in

873
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: the cart and starting cornerbacks going into next year. Well

874
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: that's gonna be our next question. But if you if

875
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: you move him to safety, now you have a spot

876
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: at corner you got to try to fill at Iron's

877
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: right right now, Byron's not a corner Though Byron he

878
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to play corner, he was not impressive.

879
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: So are you get that on five days notice in

880
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: the middle of a lost season. Either way, here he

881
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: is not in my opinion, he's not a cornerback. Okay, now,

882
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: maybe he's not a safety either, but I don't think

883
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: he's a cornerback. So not a corner and he's not

884
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: a safety, then he's not a Cowboy in a couple

885
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 1: of years. Cool, he's a hell of a punt gunner

886
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: special teams. All right, let's get the next question. Who

887
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 1: if you had to choose between the two of these,

888
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 1: are you more certain will not be with the Dallas

889
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 1: Cowboys in twenty eighteen, Orlando Scandrick or Dez Bryant if

890
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: this next year, Yeah, you gotta choose one, which would

891
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: you be more certain is not going to be here?

892
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not one hundred percent confidence that they

893
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: both won't be here, Okay, but if I had to

894
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: choose one, and I think it's more likely Standard he

895
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: has gone because because Dez has not set in front

896
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 1: of his locker and said goodbye, see y'all and done

897
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: his ode to the Cowboys. Yeah, I get thanks for

898
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: the good times. Contract Wise, from a contract standpoint, it

899
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: makes more sense to keep sand yeah, right, and to

900
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: keep I think it's I think maybe it's wishful thinking

901
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: on scandricks part, like he just wants to be out there, yeah,

902
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 1: and like not like he's not like he's not happy

903
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: here or he doesn't like the organization, but like you

904
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: see the writing on the wall, You're like, there's three

905
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 1: young guys that they feel pretty good about four Really,

906
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: if you include Xavier Woods, they played really well. Oh

907
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: tell my contract, Yeah, my contract is bigger than these guys.

908
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: It makes sense to get rid of me. I can

909
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: go get another contract with a fresh guarantee in a

910
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: new situation where the team kind of wants me around

911
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: a little bit more like I see his point. Yeah,

912
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: gets from his perspective that maybe a fresh start would

913
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: be in his best interest. So, you know, I have

914
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: a hard time believe in that. You know, the Cowboys

915
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: are really intimating to him that he's gone. I think

916
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: he's just kind of like, maybe maybe a fresh start

917
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: would be a good thing for any any sort of

918
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: truth be told. He tried this after the draft too.

919
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: I mean, in my opinion, he drove that story about

920
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: the trade. You know, he said that the Cowboys were

921
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: you know, that he felt like he was being shopped,

922
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: when really that wasn't the case. And I think he

923
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: didn't like what he saw on draft day or draft weekend,

924
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: and he tried to sort of force the Cowboys hand

925
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: and they weren't biting, and they're like, now we want

926
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: you back. So I think if it's like two point

927
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: five or three million or something. I mean, he's not

928
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 1: He's not making a lot this year, and it doesn't

929
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: make sense to cut him before the draft. I mean,

930
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: if you go get another defensive back, great, but otherwise,

931
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: you know, Cheetos had injury problems. Yeah, he can play

932
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: inside and outside. You need four or five cornerbacks to

933
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: you know, feel the good NFL defense these days. So

934
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm not in this huge hurry to get rid of

935
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: Orlando scandrid so. But all of that said, for some reason,

936
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 1: I still think it's more likely than he's gone than death.

937
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: It's just hard to see a scenario where I mean,

938
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: I know it, there's there's reasons why, and you can

939
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: make an argument as to why, but it's still hard

940
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: to think DEAs won't be on this team in twenty

941
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: eighteen because he's been so important to what the Cowboys

942
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: do for all these years. I just, you know, I

943
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: just said, you know, past experiences color my opinions. I

944
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: saw DeMarcus Ware a bounce back from injury and play well,

945
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: like I you know, for the Wow, I'm contradicting myself

946
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: because they did cut to Marcus Ware. But like, yes,

947
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: they did. Seventy five percent of the time. When we

948
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: get into these you know, raging speculations about a guy's contract,

949
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: usually nothing happens. Like that's usually what happens. Yeah, So

950
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: you think des would be I know he said he's

951
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: not taking a pay cut. Do you think he'd be

952
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: willing to restructure his deal such that he could still

953
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: make the same amount of money if he hit certain incentives.

954
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: So then it's more of an incentive based contract, and

955
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: it allows the Cowboys to have a little bit more

956
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: protection that if they're going to pay that amount, they're

957
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: paying it for great production. If I'm Dez Bryant, I

958
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't do anything that's gonna allow my money to be affected.

959
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: Like I want what, I would just say, either cut

960
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: me or keep me where I am. Yeah, because if

961
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: you cut me, I'll go sign another deal with another team. Yeah,

962
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 1: if you don't get cut to June first, a guy

963
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: of Dez Bryan's caliber, and I know he had a

964
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: really bad year, a guy of his caliber would get

965
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: snatched up real quick. Think, Ye is he getting the

966
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: kind of one year deal that that al Shan Jeffrey

967
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: got last year? Like it? Maybe will he have to?

968
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: It will be one of those prove it prove it

969
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: kind of contract, he will get less money, but he

970
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: would still get money. Now I get that. But if

971
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna get less money, then is it is it

972
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: better for him than to say, Hey, I'm gonna take

973
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: a contract where I'm gonna still make the amount I

974
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: probably would make in the free agent market as a guarantee,

975
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: but the amount that I could make an incentives can

976
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: get me right back up to where I would have

977
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: been in the first place. You know, I think if

978
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: his agent thinks about it, Terrell Tarrell prior or Terrell Prior. Yeah,

979
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: one year, eight million, so he could probably get me.

980
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: He's gonna get ten then, right, So if the Cowboys

981
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: would give him eight million, let's say, the contract that

982
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 1: they could restructure would give him eight million, let's say,

983
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: and then with incentives he could get up to sixteen million.

984
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: Does that seem like a fair thing for the Cowboys?

985
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: In for Dez and that it just seems like that

986
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: hurts your salary cap though, Desert. Yeah, because well you'd

987
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: give it if you'd extend the contrac track. So now

988
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: a lot of that can be extrapolated to this. Whatever

989
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: the signing bonus would be for that can be extrapolated

990
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: over the years of the contract. I do think and

991
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you're saying this, but people kind

992
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: of forget this about incentives to throw that in. When

993
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: you put that into a contract, it has to hit

994
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: the salary cap. Like it's called likely to be earned incentives.

995
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: And if it is likely to be earned, then you

996
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: have to you have to have the room for it.

997
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: That was like Greg Hardy steal. Yeah, it was very

998
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: incentive based, but it still had to account for how

999
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: much it could be worth. Right. Yeah, but even at

1000
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: its still at the end of the day, the Cowboys

1001
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: still will have on the books whatever he earns, right,

1002
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: that protects him at saying it. Let's say he's supposed

1003
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: to count thirteen million, you're saying, knock it down to eight.

1004
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: But if he plays at this level, it can be

1005
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: back at thirteen and you pay for it because you

1006
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: got it Pro Bowl exactly. That's the point. And I

1007
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys would be very if they got Dez

1008
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: Bryan from twenty thirteen and they got it at sixteen

1009
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: millions for this year. I think they'd be happy with that.

1010
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's like asking an hourly. You know, somebody

1011
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: own salary to go down to hourly and say, well,

1012
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: even if they're gonna get the same amount, same amount,

1013
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: you just gotta make sure you work. Knowing Dez Bryan's opportunity,

1014
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: we are I mean me and Dez are not close homies,

1015
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: but I don't know. But I mean I know him,

1016
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: I've I've got I've built a pretty decent relationship with

1017
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: him over the last five years. That doesn't sound like

1018
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: him to me. He hasn't blocked you. No, he has

1019
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: not blocked me. He's nice, it's nice like that. We

1020
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: still like other people. Mate. Uh, that doesn't sound like

1021
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: him to me. Like if you're like, hey, you, we don't.

1022
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: We don't have faith in you to be what you

1023
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: are and we want to protect ourselves against you being

1024
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: bad again. I like that he's a fiercely proud and

1025
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: passionate guy, and I think he would be like, no,

1026
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: I'll just go somewhere where they want me and are

1027
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: willing to guarantee me things. And honestly, I mean it

1028
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: would arguably be a more pass happy or maybe a

1029
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: more veteran quarterback where he can do his thing a

1030
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: little bit better. So I don't think that will happen.

1031
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: Out of principle. I actually think out of his own principle,

1032
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: I think he would probably take less money to go

1033
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: somewhere else than I think so too. Pay cut here,

1034
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: I think so too. And that's that seems more like

1035
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: what would how Dez would look at it, And just

1036
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: by his answers to that question, it seems like he

1037
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: was very met by the time he got to the

1038
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: end of the answer. He's very much against the idea

1039
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: that he was gonna take it. Can you remember you

1040
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: remember how um what's the word I'm looking for? Dramatic

1041
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: and and prideful of those contract negotiate negotiations were when

1042
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: he signed this big thing. I mean, it came down

1043
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: to the eleventh hour and he you know, on my

1044
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: on my family, I won't play a down if I don't,

1045
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm not signed or whatever, blah blah blah.

1046
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't sound like him to to, you know,

1047
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: to agree to that. And it's what I'm trying to say, Well,

1048
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: he needs to go if he if he goes anywhere,

1049
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: if he gets that that choice, he needs to go

1050
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 1: to a team with a really good quarterback. I mean

1051
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: one that's established that's the top a top five or

1052
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: six seven quarterback and that's what that's what he needs,

1053
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: which I've maybe even already said this on one of

1054
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: our shows. I feel like I repeated all the time,

1055
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: and you can disagree with me. I in the in

1056
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things, I still think this team

1057
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: is better with him on it than without it. And

1058
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: they are in a situation like they can they can

1059
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: take that hit if they need to draft a wide

1060
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: receiver again, same thing is tiring, Like take steps to

1061
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: improve your situation, but you don't have to do something

1062
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: as dramatic as blow it all up this offseason. You

1063
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: can deal with that next year. Or if if the

1064
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: nineteenth overall pick in the draft, it's this amazing wide

1065
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: receiver then and you want to play hardball with him

1066
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 1: and you're confident that Christian Kirk can be your number

1067
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: one going in the next season. You can cut him

1068
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: in the summer if you're just hell bent on doing it.

1069
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: But it's not a thing that I think needs to happen,

1070
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: you know, between now and in the draft. Not a

1071
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: fan of the Aggies, never have been. They always beat

1072
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: my team the last few years is because of that guy,

1073
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk. Tired of him doing really so you know

1074
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: what will be there around it? Yeah, I don't know

1075
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: that that's that's a it's hard to know. Yeah, he's

1076
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: probably a late first round guy, I would imagine, but

1077
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: it sounds realistic to me to think that he would

1078
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: be there the nineteen. That's a guy worth looking at

1079
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: for sure. Maybe. All right, final question, this is a

1080
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: true or false question. Cowboys need to find a new

1081
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: option to compete with Dan Bailey for the kicker job

1082
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: next season? True or false? Trying to get us to

1083
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: fire like all of the teams, I'm just asking the

1084
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: questions fans are asking. I want to get your opinion,

1085
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: to get you on record, and but let's start with you.

1086
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 1: True or false false false. I one hundred percent believe

1087
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: in Dan's ability to kick the ball and all that.

1088
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: I just think he'll have to take this whole off

1089
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,479
Speaker 1: season and just kind of get back into his own

1090
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: groove and that whole thing was mentally. He just needs

1091
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: to get over that. Keep kicking the ball easy to say, Well,

1092
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: all it takes is you just being on the field

1093
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: and keep kicking it until you gain your confidence back.

1094
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: And there's a whole season to do so, I mean

1095
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: injury wise, he said he's good, so nothing to deal

1096
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: with the injury. So apparently on that aspect he's good.

1097
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: It's all mentally and he just needs to go back

1098
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: to that point and he has several months to do so,

1099
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: Dave in my lifetime and I I mean, you know,

1100
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: short lifetime exactly, thank you. Wow. How many a short life?

1101
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: How many NFL kickers have just like gracefully aged, you know,

1102
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: Adam Vinati, Morton Anderson, Morton Anderson maybe maybe, said Baston Janikowski. Maybe.

1103
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what his stats have looked, like he

1104
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: was on IR this year, But like kickers just kind

1105
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: of lose it. Man, I'm like, you know, I'm I'm

1106
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: I grew up a Saints fan. Garrett Hartley when they

1107
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl a decade ago. Young guy, young guy,

1108
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: four of the biggest kicks in the history of the franchise,

1109
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,479
Speaker 1: got him to the Super Bowl, kicked three forty five

1110
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: plus yarders to keep him in the Super Bowl and

1111
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: help him win it. Thought he would be their kicker

1112
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: for a decade, Like within two years he's out. Like

1113
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: when you lose it, you lose it. I don't know

1114
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: for sure that that's going to happen with Dan Bailey.

1115
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: It seems crazy to me to think that it would

1116
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: because he's been so amazing for so many years, and

1117
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're gonna give him every opportunity to get

1118
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: back on track. But I've seen this happen with enough

1119
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: other kickers that I'm just I can't give him the

1120
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: same blind vote of confidence that I'll give Tyrant Smith,

1121
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: you know, like I just it's the nature of the position.

1122
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: Hold on, you said, Adam Vinetary, Gary Anderson, Morton Anderson,

1123
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: those those kickers. Now, Sebastian Janikowski's been with the same team.

1124
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: But you say they lose it, they lose it, right,

1125
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: they lose it with one team, they lose it. You

1126
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: can rEFInd it, right, But sometimes having to have that

1127
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: different environment, like Robbie Golds, he's kind of resurrected his career,

1128
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: but he was he was on a bad role there

1129
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: with Who's Your Boy? Your boy? That was with the

1130
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: Eagles forever Acres, Yeah, yeah, Acres. He found new life

1131
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers for a while. I mean,

1132
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: but sometimes you have to kind of get that new

1133
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 1: seam or you can do that. To answer your question,

1134
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: I'll say yes, I do think there needs to be

1135
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: some competition, like there always is. There's a competition because

1136
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: they don't want him to waste all, you know, right,

1137
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: So so there's not really competition as much as there

1138
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: is just somebody that can kick in his place so

1139
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: that you don't have to use him up this year.

1140
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: Do you think that person needs to be a legitimate competitor,

1141
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 1: somebody that that's played in the league and all that. Um, yeah, yeah,

1142
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: I think so. I think in these and I wrote

1143
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: that right after the game, I said that the same thing.

1144
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: I think this year there needs to be a little

1145
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: bit more of a competition for him. But um, I

1146
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: think you have to do that. That roster spot has

1147
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: been a foregone conclusion for about four years running, I

1148
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: mean since I got here, really, like you really haven't

1149
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: thought about it. And he as bad as Dan as

1150
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 1: it looks. For Dan, it's worse in his own mind.

1151
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: That's what he said after the game. It's worse than

1152
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: you think it is. Well, yeah, but that's his makes

1153
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 1: he's he he doesn't he's not excited about the one

1154
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: that hits the upright and goes in. That's a miss

1155
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: to him. Yes, that's why if you look out here,

1156
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: and if if you go out to the Star and

1157
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: you see the on one end zone, he's got very

1158
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: probably half of the distance between the two uprights on

1159
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: one of them. Like, that's what he that's why he

1160
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: aims for that, That's what he's playing off of. That's

1161
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: what freaks me out though, is like it's gonna bother

1162
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: him more than it's gonna bother Jason Garrett probably feels

1163
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: fine about Dan Bailey right now, but that's a problem too.

1164
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett's always felt fine. You know, a fifty six

1165
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: yard field goal, run him out there, all he missed,

1166
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: he missed, Yeah, and it's first and ten San Francisco

1167
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: in the forty six. Now, because of that, why don't

1168
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: you use your all pro punter, who should be an

1169
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: all pro get him down to the ten. How many

1170
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: years has Dan Bailey been here? Eleven since twenty eleven,

1171
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: since seven years, seven years, and he's been pretty perfect, right, Yeah,

1172
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: this first year you had any questions about Dan Bailey? Right? Right?

1173
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: So your leg is already trained to do all that,

1174
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 1: right and if you're going back, so that's in your system.

1175
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: It's like you walking or however you train your muscle

1176
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: muscle memory. If his injury is good as it's supposed

1177
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: to be, he just needs to get over that mental

1178
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: and he will. I'm one hundred percent confident that he

1179
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: is gonna be fine. It's all mental. He just needs

1180
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: to spend this whole season just you know, kicking, getting

1181
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: past that. And like Garrett said, looking back as his career,

1182
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: all the great thing he's done, and he has so

1183
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: much support in this organization that mentally that's gonna be

1184
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: comfort comforting into him. That's a really interesting point because

1185
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: I was about to come back at you and say, well,

1186
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: it's always mental issues that derail kickers. That's it's a

1187
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: cliche that they're head cases. But if there's an organization

1188
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: where a kicker is valued as like a member of

1189
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: the team and a member of the family, you know,

1190
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: like you hear all these stories about how kickers are

1191
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: kind of apart, Like, that's not the case here. Yeah,

1192
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: And everybody's seeing how much good he's done over the

1193
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: course of seven He's got a lot of sport. If

1194
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: there is a place where he is going to be supported,

1195
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: it's here, So that definitely works in his favor. I

1196
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: completely agree with that. Yeah, the only thing that I

1197
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: would say about that Amber on the flip side is that, yeah,

1198
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: it all makes sense from standpoint a muscle memory. And

1199
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: you're saying that it's just a mental thing. But that's

1200
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: the issue when you're talking about kickers, the mental part

1201
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: of it. Probably more than almost any other position on

1202
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: the field, the mental part of it. I've seen derail

1203
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: really good kickers. I'm talking about guys who were money

1204
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: kickers that all of a sudden just lost it. The

1205
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: guy that was in Minnesota, Blair Walsh, Yeah, yeah, they

1206
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: ended up. I mean, he was a really good kicker,

1207
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: one of the best in the league, and all of

1208
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: a sudden he could make field goals anymore. And he

1209
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: ends up in Seattle because he just couldn't make field

1210
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: goals anymore. And that's the part that worries me a

1211
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: little bit. I'm not saying get rid of him, but

1212
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: I do think you have to at least have some

1213
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: kind of contingency in the event you get back to

1214
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: training camp next year and you're still having Glad it

1215
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 1: happened in the last month of the season, because had

1216
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: it been at the beginning of the season and he

1217
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: had gone game after game just screwing up. Then I

1218
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: would feel a lot worse because now he had a

1219
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: longer period of failer. Yeah, where he's like, Okay, I'm

1220
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: screwing up, and now it's a longer time period. This

1221
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: happened towards the end of the season. Four games he

1222
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: was out, then he comes back and he has the

1223
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: whole offseason to work on that. So I'm just thinking

1224
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: of Okay, time wise, it wasn't enough to where I'm

1225
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: worried too, like, Okay, now he's absolutely mentally screwed up. Ye.

1226
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: All right, we appreciate you guys joining us. We're back

1227
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: next Wednesday. We're gonna talk a little about free agencies

1228
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: next week, talk about some of the players at the

1229
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: Cowboys have. They have a ton of free agents this year,

1230
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: so we're gonna talk about some of those and who

1231
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: we think the Cowboys should make a priority to resign.

1232
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: We'll do that all the next next week till then

1233
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,479
Speaker 1: for Nick Even, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagels

1234
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,440
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1235
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:37,400
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