WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Trouble With The Running Game? 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:07.960 This he is Talking Cowboys Screaming live on Dallas Cowboys 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:16.840 dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys as by now 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:22.159 your hosts Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us, Taylor Stern and 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:27.760 Rob Phillips. Hello, everyone, and welcome to Talking Cowboys Always, 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:32.479 joined by Mickey, Rob Brian myself in the SUBC Mortgage Studio. 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:36.240 So much to talk about. The Cowboys had their first 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:39.519 practice yesterday as they get ready to face the Packers 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:42.199 on Sunday, and there's a lot to talk about, a 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:45.400 lot of injuries, unfortunately, and a lot of people that 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.760 we just have a question marks by. Yeah, so let's 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:52.159 get right into it. Unfortunately, yesterday we spent most of 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:55.680 the first segment talking about who was gonna be the 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:58.760 guy that they removed from the roster to make room 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:02.400 for David Irving. Right. Unfortunately, that decision might have already 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:05.800 been made for us with Charles Tapper injuring his foot 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:11.360 with the fifth metatarsal break and he's expected out eight 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:14.480 to ten weeks, as coach Garrett said today, So there 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.280 you guys have it. I mean, Mickey was asking to 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.199 play him, and I agreed with Mickey. I think Mickey 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:24.160 was absolutely right about Charles Tapper. Charles Tapper deserved an 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:27.160 opportunity to go and see if he can rush the passer. Yeah, 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:31.160 and unfortunately though, you know, he he he cannot catch. 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.880 And it's gonna sound terrible, but a break he really can't. 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:37.479 Two seasons in the league derailed by injuries. Even if 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.760 he can come back later this year, how much back 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:43.560 to the break as time as he lost. You know, 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:47.720 breaks very good. Can't we get it because he's back 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.760 to the break? Yeah? Yeah, you see what I did there? Yeah? 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.880 And the break? Right? Yeah, no, you got me? You 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:57.960 got me? That's good. I mean yeah, I mean you 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:01.440 got me. Yeah. I feel like though that to me, 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.880 that and coach Garrett said it once again guys taking 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:08.080 the opportunity to earn their right to be part of 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.840 the forty six. And I think, you know, talking to 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:14.080 some people about Tapper and practice and what he'd done, 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:16.840 they felt like that, hey, maybe he does deserve a shot. 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.000 And then here he is. You know, I said, when 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.520 does happen? He always getting reps with the one boom 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:23.920 next to you know, his foot gets stepped on, and 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:26.560 you know it's a it's just it's a break that 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:30.320 you know, that he's worked really really hard to get 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:33.400 back and and you know you had hope for him 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.480 and the OTAs and the mini camps, and then you 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.560 get through the preseason and you see that edge ability. 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.920 I see what Mickey's talking about with him. Yeah, if 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.280 if no one wants to take that right in job, 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:48.120 let let him take that right in job. See what 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:52.520 you got right there. And he was within like five 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:56.320 to ten minutes of finishing that practice. Hurt that part, 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:59.000 it was almost it was the horrible. It was almost 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:03.160 over when he came limping off, and it is horrible. 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.680 Then after they checked it, they he left the locker 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:10.040 room in a big old boot and crutches, and it 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:13.360 brought back memories from about ten years ago when I 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:17.960 did the same thing. Yeah, it's such a small bone 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:20.320 and it's just it is. It's it's real thin, but 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.519 it's delicate. And how many have we seen here over 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:24.600 the last three years? Right, A lot of it though 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.720 going on when you have these linemen especially, and you know, 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.760 people getting their feet stepped on or the planting it 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:33.320 snaps or you know, there's what we had. We've had 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:38.400 Malik Collins, what was Lawrence Laurence Lawrence yeah, in the office, Lawrence, 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.280 before that in training camp, wasn't it Yeah on the 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:43.360 edge rush there and then there was someone else in 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:47.280 this past offseason did it early, did it a few 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.240 years ago. But it wasn't necessarily the metatarsal kind of 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:54.200 it's just and although when they do surgery and we'll 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:57.080 find out more on Friday when they finished the surgery. 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:01.240 That supposedly, when you do surgery on it, you have 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.800 a chance to get back sooner or at least that's 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.360 what they told me, instead of just letting the naturally 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.960 naturally healed. And I was told, if you were an athlete, 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:11.680 we'd do surgery and you'd be back in sixty eight weeks. Right, 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.560 you are an athlete, Ma, No, yourself. Well, let's put 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:19.880 it this way. My my living didn't depend on my foot. Yeah. Well, 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:23.719 if he's out a couple months, you know, technically he 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.240 could return. I would think they would place him on 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:30.040 injured reserve. Now they will, Yeah, they will, rob Yeah, 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:33.039 they will later this week. That I mean, it's always 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.520 we always wonder what they're gonna do with roster spots, 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:37.839 and then here you go, David Irving. They started to 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.920 take care of themselves. I know, we all get Twitter 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:44.160 questions about that, and three four weeks ago people were like, well, 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:45.920 how do you get David Irving? And you just kind 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:50.040 of say it does answer itself. Attrition is very tough 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.880 in this league, and it's tough on personnel guys to 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.320 keep up with it. You know, let's do the math 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:58.440 for they've played four games. Four games, so one week, 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:02.400 say it's eight one week week is the bye, right, 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:06.160 so you gotta go seven more weeks. So that's that's 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:11.200 that's eleven to twelve games. Yeah, so the last month 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:12.960 of this, it might, it might be you might and 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.120 you might need him in December, you might it might 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.640 be where all sudden attrition takes over again and you 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:20.600 know you have a body like is that you really 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:24.599 unproven as is, but that's what Or maybe somebody finally 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:27.800 wakes up at right defensive end and they say, okay, 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:31.040 you just stay on ir we'll come back again. Fight 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.720 another year. Yeah, poor guy, because you never know who 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:35.640 else you're gonna get hurt. Absolutely, you might have to 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:37.719 because you get to bring two back though, right right, 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:39.520 they changed it. You get to bring two guys. They 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:41.520 didn't change it. They did, and so you know, let's 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:44.839 talk about attrition. Obviously, the Cowboys have a lot of 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:46.839 guys that people have been keeping eyes on, but so 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:49.279 do the Packers. Will get to them after we get 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.320 to the Cowboys one and unfortunately guys, a lot of 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.919 people were more full in practice, which gives hope. Nolan 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.760 Carroll being one of those guys at Woozier. You know, 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:00.760 then you look at Chads Green, he was full, and 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.920 of course Anthony Hitchens, who spoke yesterday in the locker 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:05.800 room about coming back. But then there were a few 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:07.960 names that were added to this that we have to 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:11.000 talk about. You know. Of course, Shaunley did not practice 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:14.360 yesterday with the hamstring. Stephen Pia is still out now, 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:19.000 Tyron Smith, Ezekiel Elliott, Cavon Frasier, and a couple other guys. 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.520 Their names were added. Not to worry now Tyron Smith, 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:27.000 coach Garrett said, it's back tightness. Don't expect him to 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:31.880 practice at all today. Hopefully does more tomorrow Friday practice. 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:34.760 You know, Lyle Collins the ankle, he was still full, 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.280 but you know, just keep an eye on that. Zeke 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:39.600 got hit in the chest and during the game on 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.880 Sunday was still able to practice talk a lot in 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:44.919 the locker room. Gave you guys a lot of insight 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.800 into that. And then Cavon Frasier the name. He's kind 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.640 of been dealing with that in Chaz greenback. So where 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:52.200 do you want to start now? Where did you give 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:55.720 the outside to Pia Stephen Pia. I mean it's been 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:59.000 two weeks. He hasn't practice. We talked yesterday, didn't we Yeah, 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.880 we did. He's not very effective in the game now 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.520 he's still not practicing. That was my spot. That's why 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:06.719 that's why we were trying to play ahead of of 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:08.840 whose spot would you take? Maybe you could put him 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.440 on the injured reserve and you have David Irving coming 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:15.560 back and you need somebody there right so I think 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:17.840 that they might be time to rest him and not 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:21.640 do anything now with Nolan Carroll, yes, he got in 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:26.720 a practice, but they got to that concussion protocol. You know, 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:28.880 you're never really out of it. They keep checking you. 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:32.920 Right now. This is a it's a full practice yesterday. Now, 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.200 how does he feel today? How can he can he 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.800 get through? And I think that'll be significant to see 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.200 if he can play or not. It looks like a 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.520 Woozier should be ready to go. Yes, so that would 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.840 help them out that about that about and talk about 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.640 the all pro tacle who is not practicing Yes, Uh, 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:55.920 he was just covering his bases until he got the Yeah, 0:07:56.000 --> 0:08:00.640 Tyrn Smith, Um, they're gonna give him a rest day 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:04.240 to day. Sure, I think they feel like he'll go. 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.880 I mean, he's pretty tough. He's played through this before. Right. 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:10.800 We saw that with him last year though, didn't we 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.200 Mickey where they gave him a Wednesday day like the 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:16.200 romany day that just one day a week. They just 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:18.440 felt a time to manage, you had to manage. I 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:20.840 when I saw him on the injury report yesterday, that's 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.000 the first thing I thought about, Okay, we're now a 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.080 month into the season, let's start with the rest days. 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.160 Who were going to get rest days to? You know 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.440 that that's the one that back. It's not easy to 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.240 you know, it's it's it's him, it's pain tolerance, it's 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.400 all that he's got to. You know, he's he's play, 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:38.920 he'll play through it. But I think we're now going 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:42.240 to start seeing every Wednesday for sure that Tyrant Smith 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:43.719 is going to be on the injury report is a 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:45.960 back and I don't think he's going to practice those days. 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:48.120 We saw this in camp too. They gave him a 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.280 couple of days off, let it calm down a little bit, 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:52.800 and he was back on the field. You gotta point 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.320 out though, last season he missed two games with the back, 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:59.559 so it's something that has bothered him for years now technically, 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.200 and Chaz Green was the guy who stepped in at 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.760 left tackle last year, did a nice job. Byron Bell 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.800 is an option there as a swing tackle candidate too. 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.440 Would you rather eighty percent of Tyrant Smith or Byron 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:15.760 Bell at left tackle going against Matthews? Let me yeah. 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.680 Let me ask you this though, if you would you 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:22.000 think about this? If if Chaz Green is a full 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.360 and we've seen Chads Green have some and say he 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:29.280 doesn't start at left guard, would you play? Would you 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.200 if you had to play Chaz Green? Would you feel 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.959 better about him playing as that left tackle instead of 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:39.640 Byron Bell Mickey? And then move at So the question is, yeah, 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:41.880 I'm trying to get there. How do you feel about 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.640 Jonathan Cooper right? How do you feel about John? Feel 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:48.760 like Chaz at guard and Byron Bell left tackle is 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:52.520 better than then moving Chazz out there and exposing yourself 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.400 at the left guards. I mean, your left side is 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.640 already pretty much the way it is. But we have 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:02.319 seen better success with Chaz Green playing as the left 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:05.600 tackle in games, in games we have now he's done 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:07.800 okay as a guard. I don't think he's been terrible. 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.280 He's had his moments, but I don't think he's had 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:13.560 as many stressful moments as say, what we've seen with 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.680 Jonathan Cooper Man. I feel like this is another draft 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.200 you're going to see a lineman go in the first 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.880 round for the Dallas Cowboys. You know what, probably I 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:24.880 would will get second or third. Yeah, we'll get there. 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.880 But what I'm just saying, though, is that I think 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:29.960 this was something that they just relied on. They were 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:33.200 comfortable with knowing that their O line was good. You know, yes, 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.520 Tyren Smith has battled injuries, but for a majority, that 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.920 was kind of your your backburner. Ida. I just feel like, remember, 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.400 you can't have five first round picks on your offense. 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:44.320 I would like that, we would try. You would love it, 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:48.360 but what would you do with the corner in the 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:54.240 corner defensively? But to our point, yeah, so I said, 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:56.640 so that way, you didn't five but you didn't say that. 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:58.880 But no, I said you can't have five? Yeah, he 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:01.839 said draft one, okay, and then we'd have five in 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.920 my fantasy draft over here? But what about that? Who 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.440 do you feel better about? If you if Dallas had 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:09.880 to go into a game, Where do you feel better 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:14.559 about Jonathan Cooper playing left guard or or Bell Bell? 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:17.640 Bell's played in the league? I don't know. That's terrible 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:20.720 about it. Probably better than what Jonathan Cooper's play. I 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:22.960 think ideally you wouldn't want to have to change two 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:25.319 spots like they'd have to be doing in that situation 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:27.800 in the last two weeks and have to move a 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:31.960 guy from one side. What do you think I think 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.640 Tyrn Smith plays? No, No, I do I do? But 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:38.080 if it comes if if yeah, I'm saying if we Okay, 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.760 Now we're in that situation where it's back. What if 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:44.040 we wake up over there our fine Omni hotel, wake 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.120 up in the morning and all of a sudden, it's like, whoa, 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.839 what just happened? You know, we're now starting to think 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:53.320 about that move all Collins over there. I don't know, 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.640 Rob you think that Chaz Green, even though he's full, 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.840 he's gonna be full. It sounds like he's okay this week. 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.480 He's good. Yeah, it was just Situs, right, they can 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:04.040 treat that. You can wonder if that was at Aaron 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:13.240 donald injury sits play an donaldus again. Once again we're 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:17.839 talking about a key matchup though defensively Clay Matthews, Mod Brooks, Oh, 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:21.240 no doubt. That's the strength of the Packers front seven out. 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:23.840 Nice to have Tyrn Smith available, and I do agree 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.160 with these guys. I think you give him this day. 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.480 Odds are he should be able to go, but you 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:31.520 gotta keep keep on top of it. This week and 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:33.440 this was the same time of last year. I know 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:36.520 there's different team, different things, but he did get kind 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.320 of nicked up in the San Francisco game, actually didn't 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.560 play in the San Francisco game, right right, there's no 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:45.800 Tyron Smith, no Dez no Romo knows you guys, Scandrick. 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.240 But then he was able to have that by wee 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:49.719 kind of come back. And then it was later in 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.280 the season that it flared up again. So you know, 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.600 hopefully he's a very tough guy. Yeah, there's no denying 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.640 that now. Shaun Lee of course didn't practice today. What 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.559 is everyone expecting for him to do today and tomorrow 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:05.960 and practice didn't sound like unlike anything today. What Jason 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.400 said was hopefully as the week goes on. So he 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:12.160 didn't say, oh, he's practicing today, so maybe something Friday 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:15.960 if he doesn't go today. He basically said, kind of 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:17.520 what we've been talking about on the show. You want 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.840 to give him every chance to play. He's a veteran. 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.280 There's no hard and fast rule of well, if he 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:25.199 doesn't practice Friday, he's he gives the heav hoo from 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:29.000 Brian necessarily, but you got to keep an eye on 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:30.400 that bye week, and you got to keep an eye 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.120 on that hamstring. And like I said yesterday, okay, you 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:37.600 pull it, reaggravate it, then you're really yeah on Thanksgiving type. 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.760 I'm I'm real close to far in the hev ho. 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:43.560 I really am. I think it's less than fifty Yeah, 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.040 I do too. I think I felt like that it 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:50.559 was you know, it's it's improved. I can't get this out. 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:54.880 It's improved. Oh over the but you you have to 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:58.960 again think about the winning the battle or winning the war, 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:02.320 and the war is the season and you have to 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.720 get through that. And I think that I think the 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:07.520 head coach realizes that. He says, hey, you gotta look 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.000 with your eyes and you gotta tell what's going on there. 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:13.280 I think he trust his eyes that Anthony Hitchens is 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.320 going to help you in this football game. That's a 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:17.480 good I think he's looking at it and seeing his 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:20.840 eyes and saying, I don't think my all pro linebacker 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:22.280 is going to help me this week, But I got 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:25.520 to think about down the road. You know, this game, 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:29.480 having Hitchens on the field will help Jalen Smith a lot, 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.840 a lot, just because the fact that I think Anthony 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:38.600 Hitchins athletically and mentally can get into a lot of situation. 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.160 He could get to some balls that maybe that Justin 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.240 Durant couldn't get to. You know, he could get to 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.160 some tackles that Damian Wilson didn't get to. And that's 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:48.240 another position. You might want to keep an eye on 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:53.040 that linebacker spot. We talk about safety, yeah, but you 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:54.840 might want to keep an eye on that one. Will 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:58.480 do the coaches evaluate and say, okay against though the 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.200 word discipline. Todd Archer the question today and that's one 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:04.520 of my keys. The game for the Cowboy win will 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:07.560 be disciplined. Are you discipline enough to play the defense, 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:11.320 you know, not dropping coverage, not missing assignments, and Damian 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.120 Wilson had too many of those. So take him off 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:16.240 the field. Do you play Kyle Wilbur do you How 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:19.480 do you shuffle things around so you keep guys on 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:22.480 the field that have that experience. Now the problem you 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:26.200 can't do that at defensive back because you've cast a 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.880 lot of Hey, we're gonna go with these young kids, 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.520 and that's okay, but you know, try and limit some 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:33.960 of the other positions that you might have some questionable players. 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.840 I think if you're reading Jason on how he answered 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:41.280 the Lee thing right, it didn't. And even though he says, 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:45.520 well it's only sixteen games, I think having Hitchens available 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.920 minimizes APPS a little bit, the loss of lead. At 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.240 least you got him out there. Now. I want Lee 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:55.440 out there, and I want Hitchens out there. He said 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.840 this last week. Oh, we can do some things that 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.840 you need Sean Lee on the field. Yeah no, no, no, no, no, no, 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.120 that bad. But I don't want them. I don't want 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.760 them out there and then miss the rest of I agree, 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:09.120 I agree, so they won't say that. Yeah, I'll guarantee 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:10.560 you it's in the back of their minds. They're gonna 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.680 be other battles to fight. Yeah, and and hopefully you know, 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:16.360 Green Bay's got some situations they're missing, Like you said, 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:20.040 you're gonna get Okay, I think we're gonnas. It would 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:23.920 be nice if you had someone also, which Hitchens could do, 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.920 if you trusted somebody else to play the week side, 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:31.520 to get Jalen Smith not playing sixty snaps right game right, 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:35.080 So maybe Hitchens and Durant at some point right in 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:37.840 the changeup because the Packers are going to go three wide, right, 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.080 no doubt, all the time, all the time, every play, 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:43.680 most every play, So you're gonna be in nickel or dime. Yeah, 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.200 especially if they don't want to run the football. Yeah, exactly. 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:49.800 So maybe when they go dime, you get Jalen Smith 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:53.160 out of there and put Hitchens in. That's fair assessment 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.800 right there, providing he's up. You know, it's we're sitting 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:59.560 here thinking, Okay, this is the guy we saw in 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:03.080 training camp and he hasn't played in seven weeks. Hitchens. Yes, 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.560 I trust he's a tough guy. I just I mean 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:07.840 I talked about him stepping up and coming. Yeah, I 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:12.639 just feel like that when you talk about smart athletic players, Yeah, 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.320 that know how to find their way to the football 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:17.679 and know about crossing routes behind him and stuff like. 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:20.639 I just feel like that maybe it's not as simple 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:23.480 as get riding a bike, but to a guy that's 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.280 a veteran player, I think he understands. Yeah. Man, it 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:28.560 was so interesting. You know, Mickey has his Legend Show 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:32.760 in Cowboys Club every Wednesday and evening six pm, seven pm, 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.280 seven pm Central Time. Of course it's great. And this 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:38.840 morning we started playing Breakfast of Champions. We had Drew Pierson. 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:41.800 He's been on Mickey's show a bunch, the Legend Show, 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:43.960 but today he was talking about it and I think, Brian, 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:46.840 maybe you asked a question or somebody did, and he 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.119 was talking about last week's game and he said that 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:51.959 what he saw mostly from Jalen Smith. Those guys you're 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:55.520 naming Damien Wilson all the indecision, Yeah, you know, because 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:59.080 I like discipline. But I think another word maybe confidence. 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.720 You know, do these guys have enough confidence in themselves 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.280 and in the personnel out there that they can take 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:10.399 on the Packers offense so soon the left guard that yeah, 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:13.399 Jaitlyn needs the experience. Yes, sure he saw things in 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:16.080 that game that you needn't do it in order dame. Yeah, 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.000 Jerry Jones said it on the fan the other day. 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.840 He played I think he played sixty nine snaps defensively 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.159 against the ramp. He didn't take a snap off. And 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:25.720 this is a guy we talked about. Is he ready 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.200 to play when the season starts good to go? Yeah, 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.120 And so that's a lot on a rookie, much less 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:33.920 a guy who's been in his situation. And what Jerry 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:35.879 said was he reduce his snaps a little bit when 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:38.399 Hitchins comes back, Lee comes back and the quality of 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.040 the snaps goes up. Yeah, that's really for any rookie player. 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:43.720 You don't want to overexpose a guy at seventy snaps. 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:46.240 Is just that's a lot. It is a lot. And 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:50.240 we've got so much to talk about here on Talking Cowboys. 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:53.200 We haven't even got into the Packers injury report. Just 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:55.800 so much to go, So stay tuned with us. You 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:58.480 guys can still call us numbers two, one for eight, 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.600 seven to twenty one too. We will be right back 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:05.359 in the SWBC Mortgage studio. 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