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Speaker 1: your hosts Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us, Taylor Stern and
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips. Hello, everyone, and welcome to Talking Cowboys Always,
Speaker 1: joined by Mickey, Rob Brian myself in the SUBC Mortgage Studio.
Speaker 1: So much to talk about. The Cowboys had their first
Speaker 1: practice yesterday as they get ready to face the Packers
Speaker 1: on Sunday, and there's a lot to talk about, a
Speaker 1: lot of injuries, unfortunately, and a lot of people that
Speaker 1: we just have a question marks by. Yeah, so let's
Speaker 1: get right into it. Unfortunately, yesterday we spent most of
Speaker 1: the first segment talking about who was gonna be the
Speaker 1: guy that they removed from the roster to make room
Speaker 1: for David Irving. Right. Unfortunately, that decision might have already
Speaker 1: been made for us with Charles Tapper injuring his foot
Speaker 1: with the fifth metatarsal break and he's expected out eight
Speaker 1: to ten weeks, as coach Garrett said today, So there
Speaker 1: you guys have it. I mean, Mickey was asking to
Speaker 1: play him, and I agreed with Mickey. I think Mickey
Speaker 1: was absolutely right about Charles Tapper. Charles Tapper deserved an
Speaker 1: opportunity to go and see if he can rush the passer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and unfortunately though, you know, he he he cannot catch.
Speaker 1: And it's gonna sound terrible, but a break he really can't.
Speaker 1: Two seasons in the league derailed by injuries. Even if
Speaker 1: he can come back later this year, how much back
Speaker 1: to the break as time as he lost. You know,
Speaker 1: breaks very good. Can't we get it because he's back
Speaker 1: to the break? Yeah? Yeah, you see what I did there? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And the break? Right? Yeah, no, you got me? You
Speaker 1: got me? That's good. I mean yeah, I mean you
Speaker 1: got me. Yeah. I feel like though that to me,
Speaker 1: that and coach Garrett said it once again guys taking
Speaker 1: the opportunity to earn their right to be part of
Speaker 1: the forty six. And I think, you know, talking to
Speaker 1: some people about Tapper and practice and what he'd done,
Speaker 1: they felt like that, hey, maybe he does deserve a shot.
Speaker 1: And then here he is. You know, I said, when
Speaker 1: does happen? He always getting reps with the one boom
Speaker 1: next to you know, his foot gets stepped on, and
Speaker 1: you know it's a it's just it's a break that
Speaker 1: you know, that he's worked really really hard to get
Speaker 1: back and and you know you had hope for him
Speaker 1: and the OTAs and the mini camps, and then you
Speaker 1: get through the preseason and you see that edge ability.
Speaker 1: I see what Mickey's talking about with him. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: if no one wants to take that right in job,
Speaker 1: let let him take that right in job. See what
Speaker 1: you got right there. And he was within like five
Speaker 1: to ten minutes of finishing that practice. Hurt that part,
Speaker 1: it was almost it was the horrible. It was almost
Speaker 1: over when he came limping off, and it is horrible.
Speaker 1: Then after they checked it, they he left the locker
Speaker 1: room in a big old boot and crutches, and it
Speaker 1: brought back memories from about ten years ago when I
Speaker 1: did the same thing. Yeah, it's such a small bone
Speaker 1: and it's just it is. It's it's real thin, but
Speaker 1: it's delicate. And how many have we seen here over
Speaker 1: the last three years? Right, A lot of it though
Speaker 1: going on when you have these linemen especially, and you know,
Speaker 1: people getting their feet stepped on or the planting it
Speaker 1: snaps or you know, there's what we had. We've had
Speaker 1: Malik Collins, what was Lawrence Laurence Lawrence yeah, in the office, Lawrence,
Speaker 1: before that in training camp, wasn't it Yeah on the
Speaker 1: edge rush there and then there was someone else in
Speaker 1: this past offseason did it early, did it a few
Speaker 1: years ago. But it wasn't necessarily the metatarsal kind of
Speaker 1: it's just and although when they do surgery and we'll
Speaker 1: find out more on Friday when they finished the surgery.
Speaker 1: That supposedly, when you do surgery on it, you have
Speaker 1: a chance to get back sooner or at least that's
Speaker 1: what they told me, instead of just letting the naturally
Speaker 1: naturally healed. And I was told, if you were an athlete,
Speaker 1: we'd do surgery and you'd be back in sixty eight weeks. Right,
Speaker 1: you are an athlete, Ma, No, yourself. Well, let's put
Speaker 1: it this way. My my living didn't depend on my foot. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: if he's out a couple months, you know, technically he
Speaker 1: could return. I would think they would place him on
Speaker 1: injured reserve. Now they will, Yeah, they will, rob Yeah,
Speaker 1: they will later this week. That I mean, it's always
Speaker 1: we always wonder what they're gonna do with roster spots,
Speaker 1: and then here you go, David Irving. They started to
Speaker 1: take care of themselves. I know, we all get Twitter
Speaker 1: questions about that, and three four weeks ago people were like, well,
Speaker 1: how do you get David Irving? And you just kind
Speaker 1: of say it does answer itself. Attrition is very tough
Speaker 1: in this league, and it's tough on personnel guys to
Speaker 1: keep up with it. You know, let's do the math
Speaker 1: for they've played four games. Four games, so one week,
Speaker 1: say it's eight one week week is the bye, right,
Speaker 1: so you gotta go seven more weeks. So that's that's
Speaker 1: that's eleven to twelve games. Yeah, so the last month
Speaker 1: of this, it might, it might be you might and
Speaker 1: you might need him in December, you might it might
Speaker 1: be where all sudden attrition takes over again and you
Speaker 1: know you have a body like is that you really
Speaker 1: unproven as is, but that's what Or maybe somebody finally
Speaker 1: wakes up at right defensive end and they say, okay,
Speaker 1: you just stay on ir we'll come back again. Fight
Speaker 1: another year. Yeah, poor guy, because you never know who
Speaker 1: else you're gonna get hurt. Absolutely, you might have to
Speaker 1: because you get to bring two back though, right right,
Speaker 1: they changed it. You get to bring two guys. They
Speaker 1: didn't change it. They did, and so you know, let's
Speaker 1: talk about attrition. Obviously, the Cowboys have a lot of
Speaker 1: guys that people have been keeping eyes on, but so
Speaker 1: do the Packers. Will get to them after we get
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys one and unfortunately guys, a lot of
Speaker 1: people were more full in practice, which gives hope. Nolan
Speaker 1: Carroll being one of those guys at Woozier. You know,
Speaker 1: then you look at Chads Green, he was full, and
Speaker 1: of course Anthony Hitchens, who spoke yesterday in the locker
Speaker 1: room about coming back. But then there were a few
Speaker 1: names that were added to this that we have to
Speaker 1: talk about. You know. Of course, Shaunley did not practice
Speaker 1: yesterday with the hamstring. Stephen Pia is still out now,
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith, Ezekiel Elliott, Cavon Frasier, and a couple other guys.
Speaker 1: Their names were added. Not to worry now Tyron Smith,
Speaker 1: coach Garrett said, it's back tightness. Don't expect him to
Speaker 1: practice at all today. Hopefully does more tomorrow Friday practice.
Speaker 1: You know, Lyle Collins the ankle, he was still full,
Speaker 1: but you know, just keep an eye on that. Zeke
Speaker 1: got hit in the chest and during the game on
Speaker 1: Sunday was still able to practice talk a lot in
Speaker 1: the locker room. Gave you guys a lot of insight
Speaker 1: into that. And then Cavon Frasier the name. He's kind
Speaker 1: of been dealing with that in Chaz greenback. So where
Speaker 1: do you want to start now? Where did you give
Speaker 1: the outside to Pia Stephen Pia. I mean it's been
Speaker 1: two weeks. He hasn't practice. We talked yesterday, didn't we Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did. He's not very effective in the game now
Speaker 1: he's still not practicing. That was my spot. That's why
Speaker 1: that's why we were trying to play ahead of of
Speaker 1: whose spot would you take? Maybe you could put him
Speaker 1: on the injured reserve and you have David Irving coming
Speaker 1: back and you need somebody there right so I think
Speaker 1: that they might be time to rest him and not
Speaker 1: do anything now with Nolan Carroll, yes, he got in
Speaker 1: a practice, but they got to that concussion protocol. You know,
Speaker 1: you're never really out of it. They keep checking you.
Speaker 1: Right now. This is a it's a full practice yesterday. Now,
Speaker 1: how does he feel today? How can he can he
Speaker 1: get through? And I think that'll be significant to see
Speaker 1: if he can play or not. It looks like a
Speaker 1: Woozier should be ready to go. Yes, so that would
Speaker 1: help them out that about that about and talk about
Speaker 1: the all pro tacle who is not practicing Yes, Uh,
Speaker 1: he was just covering his bases until he got the Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith, Um, they're gonna give him a rest day
Speaker 1: to day. Sure, I think they feel like he'll go.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's pretty tough. He's played through this before. Right.
Speaker 1: We saw that with him last year though, didn't we
Speaker 1: Mickey where they gave him a Wednesday day like the
Speaker 1: romany day that just one day a week. They just
Speaker 1: felt a time to manage, you had to manage. I
Speaker 1: when I saw him on the injury report yesterday, that's
Speaker 1: the first thing I thought about, Okay, we're now a
Speaker 1: month into the season, let's start with the rest days.
Speaker 1: Who were going to get rest days to? You know
Speaker 1: that that's the one that back. It's not easy to
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's him, it's pain tolerance, it's
Speaker 1: all that he's got to. You know, he's he's play,
Speaker 1: he'll play through it. But I think we're now going
Speaker 1: to start seeing every Wednesday for sure that Tyrant Smith
Speaker 1: is going to be on the injury report is a
Speaker 1: back and I don't think he's going to practice those days.
Speaker 1: We saw this in camp too. They gave him a
Speaker 1: couple of days off, let it calm down a little bit,
Speaker 1: and he was back on the field. You gotta point
Speaker 1: out though, last season he missed two games with the back,
Speaker 1: so it's something that has bothered him for years now technically,
Speaker 1: and Chaz Green was the guy who stepped in at
Speaker 1: left tackle last year, did a nice job. Byron Bell
Speaker 1: is an option there as a swing tackle candidate too.
Speaker 1: Would you rather eighty percent of Tyrant Smith or Byron
Speaker 1: Bell at left tackle going against Matthews? Let me yeah.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this though, if you would you
Speaker 1: think about this? If if Chaz Green is a full
Speaker 1: and we've seen Chads Green have some and say he
Speaker 1: doesn't start at left guard, would you play? Would you
Speaker 1: if you had to play Chaz Green? Would you feel
Speaker 1: better about him playing as that left tackle instead of
Speaker 1: Byron Bell Mickey? And then move at So the question is, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get there. How do you feel about
Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooper right? How do you feel about John? Feel
Speaker 1: like Chaz at guard and Byron Bell left tackle is
Speaker 1: better than then moving Chazz out there and exposing yourself
Speaker 1: at the left guards. I mean, your left side is
Speaker 1: already pretty much the way it is. But we have
Speaker 1: seen better success with Chaz Green playing as the left
Speaker 1: tackle in games, in games we have now he's done
Speaker 1: okay as a guard. I don't think he's been terrible.
Speaker 1: He's had his moments, but I don't think he's had
Speaker 1: as many stressful moments as say, what we've seen with
Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooper Man. I feel like this is another draft
Speaker 1: you're going to see a lineman go in the first
Speaker 1: round for the Dallas Cowboys. You know what, probably I
Speaker 1: would will get second or third. Yeah, we'll get there.
Speaker 1: But what I'm just saying, though, is that I think
Speaker 1: this was something that they just relied on. They were
Speaker 1: comfortable with knowing that their O line was good. You know, yes,
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith has battled injuries, but for a majority, that
Speaker 1: was kind of your your backburner. Ida. I just feel like, remember,
Speaker 1: you can't have five first round picks on your offense.
Speaker 1: I would like that, we would try. You would love it,
Speaker 1: but what would you do with the corner in the
Speaker 1: corner defensively? But to our point, yeah, so I said,
Speaker 1: so that way, you didn't five but you didn't say that.
Speaker 1: But no, I said you can't have five? Yeah, he
Speaker 1: said draft one, okay, and then we'd have five in
Speaker 1: my fantasy draft over here? But what about that? Who
Speaker 1: do you feel better about? If you if Dallas had
Speaker 1: to go into a game, Where do you feel better
Speaker 1: about Jonathan Cooper playing left guard or or Bell Bell?
Speaker 1: Bell's played in the league? I don't know. That's terrible
Speaker 1: about it. Probably better than what Jonathan Cooper's play. I
Speaker 1: think ideally you wouldn't want to have to change two
Speaker 1: spots like they'd have to be doing in that situation
Speaker 1: in the last two weeks and have to move a
Speaker 1: guy from one side. What do you think I think
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith plays? No, No, I do I do? But
Speaker 1: if it comes if if yeah, I'm saying if we Okay,
Speaker 1: Now we're in that situation where it's back. What if
Speaker 1: we wake up over there our fine Omni hotel, wake
Speaker 1: up in the morning and all of a sudden, it's like, whoa,
Speaker 1: what just happened? You know, we're now starting to think
Speaker 1: about that move all Collins over there. I don't know,
Speaker 1: Rob you think that Chaz Green, even though he's full,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be full. It sounds like he's okay this week.
Speaker 1: He's good. Yeah, it was just Situs, right, they can
Speaker 1: treat that. You can wonder if that was at Aaron
Speaker 1: donald injury sits play an donaldus again. Once again we're
Speaker 1: talking about a key matchup though defensively Clay Matthews, Mod Brooks, Oh,
Speaker 1: no doubt. That's the strength of the Packers front seven out.
Speaker 1: Nice to have Tyrn Smith available, and I do agree
Speaker 1: with these guys. I think you give him this day.
Speaker 1: Odds are he should be able to go, but you
Speaker 1: gotta keep keep on top of it. This week and
Speaker 1: this was the same time of last year. I know
Speaker 1: there's different team, different things, but he did get kind
Speaker 1: of nicked up in the San Francisco game, actually didn't
Speaker 1: play in the San Francisco game, right right, there's no
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith, no Dez no Romo knows you guys, Scandrick.
Speaker 1: But then he was able to have that by wee
Speaker 1: kind of come back. And then it was later in
Speaker 1: the season that it flared up again. So you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully he's a very tough guy. Yeah, there's no denying
Speaker 1: that now. Shaun Lee of course didn't practice today. What
Speaker 1: is everyone expecting for him to do today and tomorrow
Speaker 1: and practice didn't sound like unlike anything today. What Jason
Speaker 1: said was hopefully as the week goes on. So he
Speaker 1: didn't say, oh, he's practicing today, so maybe something Friday
Speaker 1: if he doesn't go today. He basically said, kind of
Speaker 1: what we've been talking about on the show. You want
Speaker 1: to give him every chance to play. He's a veteran.
Speaker 1: There's no hard and fast rule of well, if he
Speaker 1: doesn't practice Friday, he's he gives the heav hoo from
Speaker 1: Brian necessarily, but you got to keep an eye on
Speaker 1: that bye week, and you got to keep an eye
Speaker 1: on that hamstring. And like I said yesterday, okay, you
Speaker 1: pull it, reaggravate it, then you're really yeah on Thanksgiving type.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm real close to far in the hev ho.
Speaker 1: I really am. I think it's less than fifty Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do too. I think I felt like that it
Speaker 1: was you know, it's it's improved. I can't get this out.
Speaker 1: It's improved. Oh over the but you you have to
Speaker 1: again think about the winning the battle or winning the war,
Speaker 1: and the war is the season and you have to
Speaker 1: get through that. And I think that I think the
Speaker 1: head coach realizes that. He says, hey, you gotta look
Speaker 1: with your eyes and you gotta tell what's going on there.
Speaker 1: I think he trust his eyes that Anthony Hitchens is
Speaker 1: going to help you in this football game. That's a
Speaker 1: good I think he's looking at it and seeing his
Speaker 1: eyes and saying, I don't think my all pro linebacker
Speaker 1: is going to help me this week, But I got
Speaker 1: to think about down the road. You know, this game,
Speaker 1: having Hitchens on the field will help Jalen Smith a lot,
Speaker 1: a lot, just because the fact that I think Anthony
Speaker 1: Hitchins athletically and mentally can get into a lot of situation.
Speaker 1: He could get to some balls that maybe that Justin
Speaker 1: Durant couldn't get to. You know, he could get to
Speaker 1: some tackles that Damian Wilson didn't get to. And that's
Speaker 1: another position. You might want to keep an eye on
Speaker 1: that linebacker spot. We talk about safety, yeah, but you
Speaker 1: might want to keep an eye on that one. Will
Speaker 1: do the coaches evaluate and say, okay against though the
Speaker 1: word discipline. Todd Archer the question today and that's one
Speaker 1: of my keys. The game for the Cowboy win will
Speaker 1: be disciplined. Are you discipline enough to play the defense,
Speaker 1: you know, not dropping coverage, not missing assignments, and Damian
Speaker 1: Wilson had too many of those. So take him off
Speaker 1: the field. Do you play Kyle Wilbur do you How
Speaker 1: do you shuffle things around so you keep guys on
Speaker 1: the field that have that experience. Now the problem you
Speaker 1: can't do that at defensive back because you've cast a
Speaker 1: lot of Hey, we're gonna go with these young kids,
Speaker 1: and that's okay, but you know, try and limit some
Speaker 1: of the other positions that you might have some questionable players.
Speaker 1: I think if you're reading Jason on how he answered
Speaker 1: the Lee thing right, it didn't. And even though he says,
Speaker 1: well it's only sixteen games, I think having Hitchens available
Speaker 1: minimizes APPS a little bit, the loss of lead. At
Speaker 1: least you got him out there. Now. I want Lee
Speaker 1: out there, and I want Hitchens out there. He said
Speaker 1: this last week. Oh, we can do some things that
Speaker 1: you need Sean Lee on the field. Yeah no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that bad. But I don't want them. I don't want
Speaker 1: them out there and then miss the rest of I agree,
Speaker 1: I agree, so they won't say that. Yeah, I'll guarantee
Speaker 1: you it's in the back of their minds. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be other battles to fight. Yeah, and and hopefully you know,
Speaker 1: Green Bay's got some situations they're missing, Like you said,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get Okay, I think we're gonnas. It would
Speaker 1: be nice if you had someone also, which Hitchens could do,
Speaker 1: if you trusted somebody else to play the week side,
Speaker 1: to get Jalen Smith not playing sixty snaps right game right,
Speaker 1: So maybe Hitchens and Durant at some point right in
Speaker 1: the changeup because the Packers are going to go three wide, right,
Speaker 1: no doubt, all the time, all the time, every play,
Speaker 1: most every play, So you're gonna be in nickel or dime. Yeah,
Speaker 1: especially if they don't want to run the football. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So maybe when they go dime, you get Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: out of there and put Hitchens in. That's fair assessment
Speaker 1: right there, providing he's up. You know, it's we're sitting
Speaker 1: here thinking, Okay, this is the guy we saw in
Speaker 1: training camp and he hasn't played in seven weeks. Hitchens. Yes,
Speaker 1: I trust he's a tough guy. I just I mean
Speaker 1: I talked about him stepping up and coming. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just feel like that when you talk about smart athletic players, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that know how to find their way to the football
Speaker 1: and know about crossing routes behind him and stuff like.
Speaker 1: I just feel like that maybe it's not as simple
Speaker 1: as get riding a bike, but to a guy that's
Speaker 1: a veteran player, I think he understands. Yeah. Man, it
Speaker 1: was so interesting. You know, Mickey has his Legend Show
Speaker 1: in Cowboys Club every Wednesday and evening six pm, seven pm,
Speaker 1: seven pm Central Time. Of course it's great. And this
Speaker 1: morning we started playing Breakfast of Champions. We had Drew Pierson.
Speaker 1: He's been on Mickey's show a bunch, the Legend Show,
Speaker 1: but today he was talking about it and I think, Brian,
Speaker 1: maybe you asked a question or somebody did, and he
Speaker 1: was talking about last week's game and he said that
Speaker 1: what he saw mostly from Jalen Smith. Those guys you're
Speaker 1: naming Damien Wilson all the indecision, Yeah, you know, because
Speaker 1: I like discipline. But I think another word maybe confidence.
Speaker 1: You know, do these guys have enough confidence in themselves
Speaker 1: and in the personnel out there that they can take
Speaker 1: on the Packers offense so soon the left guard that yeah,
Speaker 1: Jaitlyn needs the experience. Yes, sure he saw things in
Speaker 1: that game that you needn't do it in order dame. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones said it on the fan the other day.
Speaker 1: He played I think he played sixty nine snaps defensively
Speaker 1: against the ramp. He didn't take a snap off. And
Speaker 1: this is a guy we talked about. Is he ready
Speaker 1: to play when the season starts good to go? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so that's a lot on a rookie, much less
Speaker 1: a guy who's been in his situation. And what Jerry
Speaker 1: said was he reduce his snaps a little bit when
Speaker 1: Hitchins comes back, Lee comes back and the quality of
Speaker 1: the snaps goes up. Yeah, that's really for any rookie player.
Speaker 1: You don't want to overexpose a guy at seventy snaps.
Speaker 1: Is just that's a lot. It is a lot. And
Speaker 1: we've got so much to talk about here on Talking Cowboys.
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Speaker 1: they are not free from the injury bug as well,
Speaker 1: and they've got some big guys to watch if they
Speaker 1: can make their return. When is their bye week? I'm
Speaker 1: curious is it next week as well? Or is it
Speaker 1: two weeks from now? Good question. Well, the reason I
Speaker 1: ask is I can tell you. Yeah, the reason I
Speaker 1: ask is because they have so many guys that are
Speaker 1: kind of like could go fifty fifty type guys, and
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Speaker 1: they're bike Oh so they have keep playing? Yeah, keep playing?
Speaker 1: Three more right, two more after this one? Yeah. So
Speaker 1: the positive here is that a lot of the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were full, but on the other side, the Packers, a
Speaker 1: lot of them were limited. So you have Davante Adams,
Speaker 1: of course, who took that horrible hit from Danny Trevathian
Speaker 1: last week. He was limited, Bakatari. I told you guys that,
Speaker 1: you know, this was kind of his game, circled to
Speaker 1: come back, still limited with the hamstring mod Brooks, who
Speaker 1: robed just brought up with the back. He was limited,
Speaker 1: Bloga their tackle ankle. Brian is giving you the old out.
Speaker 1: I think, I think. I think David Baktari is in
Speaker 1: and I think the other guy, blog the right tackle
Speaker 1: is out. So both of them missed, both of them
Speaker 1: miss Yeah, it was crazy what they were doing last
Speaker 1: week with Office. Yeah. Now Mike Daniel's obviously a big
Speaker 1: guy to watch up. Brian wrote about it. Yes, the
Speaker 1: hip limited and I'm just gonna get through this and
Speaker 1: then we're just going to dive in on this. Devon
Speaker 1: House cornerback qua Qua quadricep. Sometimes words are hard time Montgomery,
Speaker 1: I can't believe that he was limited with more than
Speaker 1: one broken rib. Nick Perry, their linebacker, his hand, he
Speaker 1: was limited. And now Quentin Rawlins cornerback and he was
Speaker 1: completely full. And then Joe Thomas ankle did not practice,
Speaker 1: and then Jamal Williams they're running back knee full participant.
Speaker 1: The only full participants wore Quentin and Jamal. I think
Speaker 1: limited is a very nebulous term for it is it
Speaker 1: is because you can stretch it to Yeah, okay, what
Speaker 1: did he do? Did he go out there? And stretch
Speaker 1: with the team and go through individual right and then
Speaker 1: that's it. You know, I don't think anybody really tells
Speaker 1: the truth unlimited. You just cover yourself. You do, you
Speaker 1: cover yourself. But I'm I think there's there's a lot
Speaker 1: of key guys here. I all the two I could say,
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be okay at the left tackle
Speaker 1: spot with Baktri David Bakti there and then but Bolaga
Speaker 1: will be out. So keep an eye on Justin McCrae.
Speaker 1: He's been the starter, or at least he started against
Speaker 1: the Bears last week. Number sixty four had a little
Speaker 1: bit of trouble out there on the edge. So keep
Speaker 1: an eye on that one. And the other one too
Speaker 1: to keep and ion is Mike Daniels. If Mike Daniels
Speaker 1: doesn't play, that's a big loss. He's one of those
Speaker 1: guys similar to how you know with what the Rams
Speaker 1: were able to do with Aaron Donald. Guy it plays
Speaker 1: the three technique. You know, he's had some really good
Speaker 1: battles with Zack Martin. If things aren't stabilized at left
Speaker 1: guard for the Cowboys, you know, we could see him
Speaker 1: play over there. If he in fact, he's in the game,
Speaker 1: so you know the teams will see that as the
Speaker 1: weak link put their best guys over there. So do
Speaker 1: you really expected Vante Adams in time Montgomery to be
Speaker 1: playing in this game. I know they played their last
Speaker 1: game was last Thursday against the Bears with ten days rest,
Speaker 1: But I mean that would be I would be more
Speaker 1: surprised of I would be more surprised if Adams than
Speaker 1: I would the other one. You think Montgomery will play
Speaker 1: with that, especially now that they've got Jamal Williams listed
Speaker 1: as full You know what this The one thing that
Speaker 1: that mctgomery has shown me is if you're a wide
Speaker 1: receiver and they're making you a running back, you've got
Speaker 1: some toughness. Now, this might be one of those things. Hey,
Speaker 1: another week will help him to get more rest, especially
Speaker 1: too much hit games left until they're exactly heal up
Speaker 1: a little bit more. But I would I would think
Speaker 1: that I would think that maybe now he came out.
Speaker 1: Initially it was kind of like I'm really not sure,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, maybe somebody got to
Speaker 1: him and said, whoa, whoa, don't do that. Be positive,
Speaker 1: be positive about coming back so they don't get a gauge.
Speaker 1: But he's a really tough guy. I mean, to do
Speaker 1: what he did from Stanford to the Packers, go from
Speaker 1: wide receiver to running back, I think that says a
Speaker 1: lot about him. He's effective carrying the football. The numbers
Speaker 1: don't always show it, but you know, he's one of
Speaker 1: those guys that does give them a little bit of
Speaker 1: a running game. And when Rogers isn't throwing it all
Speaker 1: these place, he's their second leading receiver quietly too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: eighteen catches. Davante Adams kind of became a go to
Speaker 1: guy for Rogers last year. So he's a guy really
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on as well. Because you you
Speaker 1: add him in a mix with Jordy Nelson and Randall
Speaker 1: Cobb and you talk about the Cowboys young secondary, that's
Speaker 1: a tall task covering all those guys. Well, they've had
Speaker 1: problems with him before. Yeah, remember the twenty fourteen playoff game, right,
Speaker 1: he was the guy that really hurt him. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: can't imagine that you could play running back with a
Speaker 1: flak jacket on because he got to hold the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got to wear something. Sure, it's got multiple rib
Speaker 1: fraction sure, and you know you can't really shoot it up.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you can. I mean, didn't Romo
Speaker 1: do something similar and then go out there and play.
Speaker 1: But you're the quarterback. You're hoping you're not getting hit
Speaker 1: every time you touch the ball. Running backs hit every
Speaker 1: time he touches the ball, unless he's going for a
Speaker 1: touchdown every time. Yeah, I just guy's tough. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: I wouldn't doubt him now. Like I said, the Adams
Speaker 1: win is a little bit different because that was a
Speaker 1: hospital deal and all that. I just and he's got
Speaker 1: to be in the concussion protocol absolutely, So maybe he
Speaker 1: goes out there, but how much did he do? Yeah
Speaker 1: he should dark room effective? Will he be? You know
Speaker 1: if if you're nervous about him out there, but yeah,
Speaker 1: he passes the concussion protocol knock on Wood should be
Speaker 1: worried about that number twelve. Oh, I'm very very worried
Speaker 1: about discount double check going there, very worried. But I
Speaker 1: also don't want him to be able to pass the
Speaker 1: ball to all these They got a lot of weapons,
Speaker 1: they sure do. I mean, you know last year they
Speaker 1: were struggling with their running backs too, And Mickey just
Speaker 1: told you Jamal Williams as a full participant. What does
Speaker 1: he bring? You know, they've had this carouself running backs.
Speaker 1: I mean, guys, I know you'll miss Eddie Lacy out
Speaker 1: there will seem at Christmas. Ye see, Santa Clause will
Speaker 1: bring us Eddie Lacy. Yeah, he's another option for him.
Speaker 1: But you know they really they really don't run the
Speaker 1: ball that much. Rodgers really good, yeah, really good. And
Speaker 1: montgomer only has forty six carries. Yeah, you take away
Speaker 1: Rogers fourteen carries, which I'm sure a lot of those
Speaker 1: weren't designed. They've got seventy rushes for the season, and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have ninety eight minus dacks twelve, They've got
Speaker 1: eighty six. They're just see, they rely on Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: and they don't really worry so much about balance. Honestly, No,
Speaker 1: they really don't. And you know, it's it's a team.
Speaker 1: It's really the opposite of what Dallas is. They rely
Speaker 1: so much on the quick passing game too. You know,
Speaker 1: they'll throw a screen outside off of play action to
Speaker 1: just to get four yards. If Rogers feels like you're
Speaker 1: playing off coverage, he'll fire the ball to the outside.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's a it's a clearly a pass
Speaker 1: offense first, then run, you know with what they with
Speaker 1: what they do. I mean, I'm sure Aaron Rodgers would
Speaker 1: love to have a rushing attack, but he doesn't. But
Speaker 1: he the way he plays, he sets he sets them
Speaker 1: up as Okay, I'm gonna throw the ball to act
Speaker 1: like that. It's a run with his short passing game.
Speaker 1: You think the Packers call in as fans and complain
Speaker 1: about the balance. No, not with Aaron Rodgers at quarterback.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think sixty toty six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they lost the game. You know what Zekett believe was
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty nine yards in the first game
Speaker 1: last year. Lost that game, and then they turn around
Speaker 1: and won the playoff game. He had one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty five. Actually he had one hundred. Well, maybe I
Speaker 1: messed it. I thought I wrote it down and it
Speaker 1: was thirty three for one ninety one. Yeah, I think that.
Speaker 1: I think that to me. I looked at I looked
Speaker 1: on the inn at the Jesus Site, and I think
Speaker 1: I just it was one hundred. I thought it was
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty nine yards. Maybe it was the
Speaker 1: Cowboys total total. Yeah, that's the total. The total place.
Speaker 1: But I thought I wrote it down the right way
Speaker 1: as Dak went for eight eighteen twenty seven. Right, So
Speaker 1: whatever they they they they feel like though that, you know,
Speaker 1: the key for them is going to be can Dallas
Speaker 1: maintain the ball? Can Dallas run the football? To me,
Speaker 1: that's what if the Packers stop your running game and
Speaker 1: force you into how they played against the Rams. It's
Speaker 1: plays right into the Packers' hands. They thrive on that
Speaker 1: being able to get pressure and then their secondary again,
Speaker 1: there's another secondary that gives up plays. But going back
Speaker 1: to their running game, just real quick, there's there's three
Speaker 1: teams in the league that don't have a run of
Speaker 1: twenty plus yards, and the Packers are one of them.
Speaker 1: New England is a second one. Now you're talking about
Speaker 1: two of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game.
Speaker 1: You know, they don't have a rusher has a twenty
Speaker 1: yard run, so they make up with it with other ways.
Speaker 1: Their longest run actually is Aaron Rodgers, Yeah, thirteen yards.
Speaker 1: Thirteen yards. I'm guessing that's a scramble abs potentially. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh you didn't think they called the readoption? I mean maybe,
Speaker 1: but I doubt it. I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: play fantasy football, and I know it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: a little bit funny sometimes, but this game is like
Speaker 1: fantasy football owners nightmare for defenses. If you have the
Speaker 1: Green Bay defense or the Cowboys defense, they're not projected
Speaker 1: high points at all. Right, and it's because of the
Speaker 1: fact that both offenses are so strong for these teams, right,
Speaker 1: and well, hopefully the Cowboys one will be as strong
Speaker 1: as people are projecting. But this defense that you're talking about,
Speaker 1: the Green Bay one, are they really able to stop
Speaker 1: the Cowboys run? Do they have the personnel and the
Speaker 1: guys in place healthy enough to do that? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's going to come down to really about Kenny
Speaker 1: Clark and Daniels and those guys. Even though they play
Speaker 1: without Daniels, they've they've been pretty good. My benchmark is
Speaker 1: always those four plus runs. You know, they've been one
Speaker 1: of Now, the cow Boys went into this game last
Speaker 1: year at Lambeaux and this was the number one rush
Speaker 1: defense in the league and they got shredded. You know,
Speaker 1: So the Cowboys with with really a similar personnel, you know,
Speaker 1: no no Peppers, you know, Peppers is no longer there,
Speaker 1: but you know, they the Cowboys have to feel like, hey,
Speaker 1: we can run the football. If you line up the
Speaker 1: same guys that you lined up against us last year,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll find a way to make this work.
Speaker 1: And so the Packers Dom Capers has to be worried that, okay,
Speaker 1: they're gonna smash us in the running game. They'll get
Speaker 1: things going play action wise, you know, and then now
Speaker 1: you've got they didn't do a very good job of
Speaker 1: covering the Cowboys. We're seeing me. Cole Beasley was open
Speaker 1: a lot watching the tape. Terrence Williams was open a lot.
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant had a huge day, you know. So they
Speaker 1: have to be worried about though, if it comes to
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now Dallas does find balance and
Speaker 1: you know they but that's the great equalizer again is Rogers.
Speaker 1: You can drive the ball, drive the ball, drive their ball,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he makes it two.
Speaker 1: It's a three play drive for a touchdown. You might
Speaker 1: go twelve plays. He goes to plays. You know that
Speaker 1: that's the that's the that's the that's the poison you
Speaker 1: deal with right there. Yeah, see the thing that you know,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the run and how the Cowboys will
Speaker 1: have to get the Packers, you know, to not block
Speaker 1: the run right, just keep it going. But on the
Speaker 1: other side of this, the thing that I'm feeling good about,
Speaker 1: and we touched on this yesterday. No Micah hide, no
Speaker 1: shields out there. Yeah, maybe these receivers finally have a
Speaker 1: big day. Maybe Cole Beasley, I mean he had a
Speaker 1: great regular season game again to this team obviously different personnel,
Speaker 1: but Dak was able to get him the ball, and
Speaker 1: kind of they've got issues out. They've got issues guys,
Speaker 1: they you know, with their secondary Yeah, and talking to
Speaker 1: some folks up there though they're not really sure who
Speaker 1: all they're going to start. And you mentioned about Quentin Rawlings.
Speaker 1: You know, he plays as the nickel. He's been burned
Speaker 1: quite a bit. House you know, has been nicked up
Speaker 1: as well. They play Morgan Burnett as one of the
Speaker 1: safeties in the slot. I mean they're looking for people
Speaker 1: to try and cover. They're sitting around pick Kevin king
Speaker 1: Is that Kevin kingo playing time and it's against top receivers.
Speaker 1: There you go a lot of AJ Green a couple
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Yeah, he's gonna he might travel with Dezins,
Speaker 1: he might travel with Dez in this game, so you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta be but they do have some issues. Dallas
Speaker 1: has just got to find a way to have balanced
Speaker 1: like they did in the first half of that Rams game.
Speaker 1: You know, they got to keep that together and just
Speaker 1: stay on this because you just can't allow Rogers to
Speaker 1: just have you know, you can't punt three times. You
Speaker 1: just can't do that. You've got to find a way
Speaker 1: to finish drives. You gotta run the football, and you
Speaker 1: got to make some plays on the outside yourself. You
Speaker 1: can't let the Packers receivers make all the plays. You
Speaker 1: have to make plays as well. Zeke was twenty eight
Speaker 1: for one fifty seven. There you go. And if we
Speaker 1: remember des didn't play in that game. No, that's the
Speaker 1: game at Lambeau, right, Yeah, So Terrence Williams had four
Speaker 1: catches for seventy five and Beasley had six and went
Speaker 1: and had four. So they've figured out somehow some way
Speaker 1: to put up enough offense to be able to beat
Speaker 1: him up there. But they were efficient turnovers too. You
Speaker 1: got some turnovers from Rogers. You got you got an
Speaker 1: you get an interception, and then you got to fumble
Speaker 1: on the goal line. Basically David Urban. That's nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: busting through there. You gotta take advantage of when they
Speaker 1: do make a mistake. They're not gonna make many. He's
Speaker 1: not gonna make many mistakes, but you got to take
Speaker 1: advantage of that when he does. We were doing stats
Speaker 1: yesterday on Cover four, and did you know that in
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers' career, he has thrown one hundred and one
Speaker 1: less interceptions than Eli Manning's career. Yeah, that's incredible, that's incredible.
Speaker 1: And Eli's played a little longer in the league, but
Speaker 1: just to buy a couple of years, Yeah, only by
Speaker 1: a couple of years. How many Eli Eli was four?
Speaker 1: Rogers became the starter eight. Does that show how good
Speaker 1: Rogers is or how bad he? Oh? Way to go, kid,
Speaker 1: there you go. Ki't with the fire with a fire.
Speaker 1: But I'm asking. All I'm saying is you're right, Brian,
Speaker 1: when they do get those opportunities in Tyrone Crawford, there's
Speaker 1: a ball right between your legs. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: get he was looking around, Yeah, trying to benefit of
Speaker 1: the doubt. He was looking and unfortunately it just didn't
Speaker 1: go their way on that one. Wasn't just takeaways in
Speaker 1: that game. They just did a good job of covering
Speaker 1: receivers on Rogers in the in the Lamba game, and
Speaker 1: they played a lot of three man rush and just
Speaker 1: covered well, put a committed extra guys in the secondary
Speaker 1: and just forced Rodgers to stay in the pocket and
Speaker 1: make throws and he wasn't accurate, and normally you count
Speaker 1: on Aaron Rodgers being accurate. Yeah, that was the key.
Speaker 1: They did a really nice job defensively in that game
Speaker 1: well too. You know it was thirty one forty two
Speaker 1: for two hundred and ninety four yards and that's the
Speaker 1: Lamba game, right, Yeah, And you know who heard him
Speaker 1: was Montgomery. Montgomery as they were using them out of
Speaker 1: the backfield receivers passes right, clogging cover. But also too
Speaker 1: though in the playoff game, Cook, who's no longer there,
Speaker 1: the tight end was a big factor in that game.
Speaker 1: So now it's Marty B's turn. Yeah, Marty B. You
Speaker 1: never know, I mean, I just he does such a
Speaker 1: great job of spreading the ball around. But Dallas has
Speaker 1: got to do what they have to do on offense
Speaker 1: to win this football game. They really really do. They
Speaker 1: If they're relying on their defense, that's probably the wrong
Speaker 1: approach offense has got to help you in this game.
Speaker 1: But I used the word discipline take I really do.
Speaker 1: On defense. You cannot allow them twelve men on the field,
Speaker 1: free plays, you can't allow shots down the field. You can't.
Speaker 1: You have to cover guys, stay with your men, run
Speaker 1: with your guy, finish the play, play through the whistle.
Speaker 1: That's what they need to do. Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 1: we're talking about a lot of guys that everyone's very
Speaker 1: familiar with, the Zekes, the Deys, the Wittons, that Cole's defense.
Speaker 1: You got to Mark Lawrence, everybody. But I want to
Speaker 1: ask you guys a couple of names, and they're they're
Speaker 1: both fullbacks, Rod Smith and Keith Smith. What have they
Speaker 1: been able to do? I know rod Smith has been
Speaker 1: more involved, but Keith Smith was a guy last year
Speaker 1: they used a lot to kind of do these types
Speaker 1: of things, dirty works up the dirty yards that help there.
Speaker 1: Have they been doing that through the first four games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've used I think kids Smith played last week more
Speaker 1: and he just haven't. No, they haven't gained haven't used
Speaker 1: the fullback. Yeah, well they're using more too tight end. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the twelve personnel group has been a little bit
Speaker 1: of a struggle for them. You know, they've gone to
Speaker 1: some thirteen personnel had a little bit better success with that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, with Keith, they just haven't been able to
Speaker 1: consistently get him going, and they tried last week a
Speaker 1: little bit. I always worry about, you know, a fullback
Speaker 1: getting in the way of Ezekiel La because he's such
Speaker 1: a great one back runner when he sees cuts and
Speaker 1: things like that. You don't want Ezekiel to hesitate. You
Speaker 1: want him on the goal line. Yeah, I'm sure they
Speaker 1: sure did, They sure, And that's what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: They're gonna you know, the third and ones, the fourth
Speaker 1: and ones. You're gonna see Keith Smith in the game
Speaker 1: doing that kind of stuff. But overall though, you know,
Speaker 1: it's they just haven't got that traction that we talk about. Man. Well,
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Speaker 1: John's pizza tastes so great, Okay, can't get it being
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Speaker 1: Now is it didn't heat his guys? His football life
Speaker 1: just aired? Was it? It was? It was last Friday?
Speaker 1: Friday's Friday. Yeah. The one this week is on Wes Welker,
Speaker 1: a good old Texas Tech alum. Yep, so, Wes Welker.
Speaker 1: They're going to look into him. And of course he
Speaker 1: changed the game for slot receivers. He did. Cole Beasley
Speaker 1: and him held it down for a little bit. Now
Speaker 1: you got Danny, him and Dola and a lot of them.
Speaker 1: Ryan Switzer might be in that mix one day too. Well.
Speaker 1: Have you guys been getting a lot of questions about
Speaker 1: Ryan Switzer? Yes, Twitter accounts, have you about when they
Speaker 1: might use him, when they might or people more so
Speaker 1: earlier in the season. I don't know if maybe the
Speaker 1: muff punt upsets some fans a little bit, not so
Speaker 1: much worried about the offense, but they're seeing week to
Speaker 1: week they're trying to get him integrated a little more.
Speaker 1: Those jet sweep some of the stuff Lucky did. It's
Speaker 1: just hard to get him on the field as a
Speaker 1: true wide out. You know, Yeah, who do you take
Speaker 1: off of the field? And we got to use Beasley
Speaker 1: and him in the slot. At the same time, take
Speaker 1: he got to take Witten off. Yeah, that ain't happening.
Speaker 1: You're not taking Winting off the field. And you're talking
Speaker 1: about tight ends, and we sort of got into Martellis
Speaker 1: Bennett making his grand return back to Dallas. Obviously, he
Speaker 1: had a very interesting article he wrote last year with
Speaker 1: his brother and talked about his time here at Dallas.
Speaker 1: We don't have to get into all of that. But
Speaker 1: Byron Jones, you know, we've talked about him and what
Speaker 1: he's been able to do in the tasks he's had
Speaker 1: being in the secondary and helping being matched with Heath
Speaker 1: and Right the guys they lost in free agency. Could
Speaker 1: he have a breakout game against Martellis Bennett. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think that's one of Byron's best strengths
Speaker 1: is being able to say, line up against the opposing
Speaker 1: tight end and cover that guy and from a safety spot,
Speaker 1: that's impressive. Not many safeties can do that in the league.
Speaker 1: You know, Martellis is the guy they're trying to get
Speaker 1: going a little bit. He s got some drops too.
Speaker 1: He had some drops. Yeah, early in the season, right
Speaker 1: had I think he had six catches though against the
Speaker 1: Bears a few days ago. Sure, so, And I saw
Speaker 1: a quote that Rogers said they need to get him
Speaker 1: involved to try to get his confidence going a little right,
Speaker 1: So maybe that's engaged. Okay, Mickey has some personal bias
Speaker 1: with him. Oh, I'm just that's always been his problem.
Speaker 1: He doesn't stay engaged. So if you get him engaged,
Speaker 1: then yeah, he'll he'll roll. I just it's like feeding
Speaker 1: a guy in basketball, right, you get him going early
Speaker 1: and then the guy all right, I got some rhythm
Speaker 1: here to your point. I mean, and Brian just said it.
Speaker 1: He's a deceptively it's a really athletic, big target six seven,
Speaker 1: whatever he is. He could be a guy, especially down
Speaker 1: in the red zone. And they've been successful in the
Speaker 1: red zone, the best in the league without him even
Speaker 1: getting a touchdown passed so far. I make teams now
Speaker 1: as he played for four this is the fourth, yes,
Speaker 1: super Bowl four? Yeah, Dallas, New England, Giants, Chicago. This
Speaker 1: is his fifth one. Right, I forgot about New England. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got a Super Bowl right, aways got the winning
Speaker 1: touchdown in the Super Bowl. He was on the postgame
Speaker 1: show and it was very you know, vocal about how
Speaker 1: he felt about free agency and where he thought he belonged,
Speaker 1: and now he's with obviously a great quarterback in Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers played He's played with some great ones if you
Speaker 1: think about his career. Yeah, I'm just saying, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at kind of the safety play in this game,
Speaker 1: and you know what they're gonna do with the secondary,
Speaker 1: and Barry Church was able to have a great game
Speaker 1: against this Packers' offense. Different guys, I get it. But
Speaker 1: Byron Jones, where can he really have? Like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm a good, big time player on this defense game, Well,
Speaker 1: what would you rather have Byron Jones and the slot
Speaker 1: covering the tight end or Byron Jones playing deep safety
Speaker 1: and maybe have a Woozier in the slot covering him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they've got they've got options. They've got some
Speaker 1: options now. And he also got a factor in. You know,
Speaker 1: Cavon Frasier was listed as limited right, and he didn't
Speaker 1: exactly excel last week either. I didn't think right, So
Speaker 1: I bad figure out where you want to be, you
Speaker 1: know where you feel better. You want Byron Jones close
Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage and leave Heath and Frasier deep.
Speaker 1: I think about Cheeto though in the back. You know
Speaker 1: he's a physical guy. Obviously, I'm not taking anything now,
Speaker 1: I don't mean it, Yeah, I don't mean in the back.
Speaker 1: I mean in the slot. Yeah, I'm just saying if
Speaker 1: you move him around a little bit. I like what
Speaker 1: you're saying with options, I think, I think would you
Speaker 1: be comfortable with would you be comfortable with Xavier Woods
Speaker 1: playing deep and then putting Byron Jones down? Do you
Speaker 1: feel like you have a little bit more rap being
Speaker 1: I feel better about it a little bit. Ben Frasier, Right, yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's what they tried last last week. Right Frasier.
Speaker 1: To me, Frasier has become a liability and coverage and
Speaker 1: that's that's a shame. Now Frasier, you know, his his
Speaker 1: calling card is to go and hit and be that guy,
Speaker 1: be a downhill player. But he missed a tackle you
Speaker 1: know in the uh at the you know in that
Speaker 1: stumbled and then on the sixty six yard run. I
Speaker 1: mean he's the first guy down, and you know you
Speaker 1: can't have that happened. He missed several tackles in space
Speaker 1: coverage on the fifty three coverage coverage. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: know they have to think about. Now, Okay, what's the
Speaker 1: best plan of attack here? Is it putting Xavier Woods
Speaker 1: on the field? I mean, you know, do you? How
Speaker 1: much do you? Maybe this is where a Woozier. Maybe
Speaker 1: this is where we see a Woozier. Maybe take some
Speaker 1: snaps as what Mickey was talking about that dime player
Speaker 1: in slot, but maybe even some safety stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: if you if you're worried about Cavon Frasier, if you're
Speaker 1: worried about Jeff Heath, if you're worried about those guys,
Speaker 1: maybe it's okay, who who are best cover guys? Who
Speaker 1: the guys that we can count on? I know you
Speaker 1: you know, Wooziers a rookie, but you might be able
Speaker 1: to count on him and coverage more than you will
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath or or Cavon Frasier. Questions here? Now, another
Speaker 1: good question came from Rob's pole yesterday. Yeah, we're talking
Speaker 1: about matchups on both sides. What's the toughest matchup for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys? Who they really need a key on to
Speaker 1: win this game? And I've got two options on offense,
Speaker 1: two options on defense. Randall Cobb Haha, Clinton Dix, Clay
Speaker 1: Matthews Jordy Nelson. I got thoughts. I'll take Jordy Nelson
Speaker 1: and it was the worried about, right, Yeah, the was
Speaker 1: concerned about entering Week five. Hey, did Jordy Nelson play
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys in that regular season game? Yes? He did.
Speaker 1: He had a drop, I want to say, or he
Speaker 1: had a fumble. Didn't in that game? Where was that
Speaker 1: they had a he had a fumble in that game?
Speaker 1: Or was that the playoff game? He had a fumble
Speaker 1: he caught the ball in the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: He had the ribs in the playoffs, right, Yeah, yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what I was thinking. I was like, there an
Speaker 1: there was a game where he was he got hurt
Speaker 1: against the Giants the week before. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: he played my Montgomery broken ribs style. In the regular
Speaker 1: season game, he caught five passes for sixty eight yards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that had a drop. Where I think that I want
Speaker 1: to say that that he got hit and by who
Speaker 1: am I thinking of a forty two very very Church
Speaker 1: hit him? Yeah, he little physical. Yeah, Barry hit him
Speaker 1: and he fumbled the ball and Dallas got the ball.
Speaker 1: But I think I would be more worried about I
Speaker 1: think I'd be more worried about. You didn't have Cob
Speaker 1: on there? Did you did? Am I not listening today?
Speaker 1: You had Cob right, cop is my guy. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: about that. Rob deep threat guy. Yeah, just all over
Speaker 1: the field, backfield, quick screen, slant down the field. I
Speaker 1: worry more about I worry more about his versatility in
Speaker 1: this game because now you're gonna have to try and
Speaker 1: find a way to match him plays in the slot.
Speaker 1: You could play a lot of different levels with him.
Speaker 1: So my apologies, I didn't I would know your attention,
Speaker 1: but I didn't remember. I worry about Clay Matthews just
Speaker 1: because if something happens with Smith, especially that and he's
Speaker 1: not back, he's not either play a three four, but
Speaker 1: he's not really a cover linebacker. He's more back to
Speaker 1: being a rush guy, and he can really impact the
Speaker 1: game that way. You guys, said Jordy Nelson, that was
Speaker 1: the leader in the clubhouse. Ye se, he leads this
Speaker 1: team with five touchdown catches, had a big fifty eight
Speaker 1: yard catch the other the other day against the Bears,
Speaker 1: a touchdown for for Aaron Rodgers. You me and the
Speaker 1: fans we think alike. You do always do you think Nelson,
Speaker 1: I said, Nelson. Yeah, well, let's hear more from the fans.
Speaker 1: We do have a caller on the line, Lloyd from Virginia.
Speaker 1: What is your question? Hello, guys, A long time fan,
Speaker 1: long time listener. And to prove it, I need to
Speaker 1: throw Mickey a couple of targets. Mickey. I just got
Speaker 1: off my John Deer, took a shower, put on my
Speaker 1: Tommy Johns waiting for some Papa John's and now as
Speaker 1: tom for we're talking cowboys. Oh there's guys after our
Speaker 1: own heart. Yeah you like that? Well yeah, keep it
Speaker 1: to the sponsorship. Well, thank you, brother. Been a fans
Speaker 1: in sixty three when Mickey's uh Bears beat my Giant
Speaker 1: and a couple of points there just for our team
Speaker 1: special teams. I grew up with the guy who holds
Speaker 1: the Cowboy record for longest punt return. Jeff tell Switzer
Speaker 1: he won't get it. It's ninety eight yards, catch the
Speaker 1: ball and then run on d defense brought us. You
Speaker 1: scouted these guys out. You know they're gonna be good.
Speaker 1: It just takes some time. By game nine, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be talking about how good they are and how smart
Speaker 1: you are. I hope so and on offense, let's stop
Speaker 1: this three yards in a cloud of dust stuff. We
Speaker 1: can run to the outside. Zeke, they're more athletic. I've
Speaker 1: heard Nate say, they're not mallers, they're athletic guys. Let's
Speaker 1: run to the outside and break that line up. Go Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I love it. Lloyd is excited. He gets me fired up. Hey,
Speaker 1: he's talking about special teams. We got into Ryan Switzer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get that. You know, he's got to learn that.
Speaker 1: But coach Garrett did a great job of addressing that
Speaker 1: yesterday and he said he's going to learn. Yeather he
Speaker 1: likes it or not, he's going to learn. And of
Speaker 1: course he even admitted that he had been a little
Speaker 1: too aggressive with some of those punt returns in the
Speaker 1: first few games, but he will learn it now. Game nine,
Speaker 1: getting that rookie defense just jelling ready to go. I'd
Speaker 1: love to see that. And offense, Zeke and Kent does
Speaker 1: have a few clips. Let's I want to hear the
Speaker 1: one of Zeke talking about how he thinks they can
Speaker 1: be more efficient on first and second downs. Stand by,
Speaker 1: I'll pull that up to thank you, sir. So we'll
Speaker 1: get to that. But Zeke was Zeke was pretty uh
Speaker 1: open in the locker room. I was looking for the
Speaker 1: right word to talk about it, because he basically came
Speaker 1: out and said it. There's no panic here, right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And those guys, I'm not gonna speak for all of them,
Speaker 1: say they're sick of hearing about it, but I think
Speaker 1: they're sick. Yeah. The offense, I mean, look, Mickey said it.
Speaker 1: They put up thirty points in the game. I think
Speaker 1: they did a lot of things well offensively against a
Speaker 1: pretty good Rams defense. They just weren't consistent. I think
Speaker 1: they feel like they're they're gaining traction though, and this
Speaker 1: might be the game where they kind of pulled it
Speaker 1: all together. We'll see. Um. But Zeke's been pointing to
Speaker 1: the first and second down. He's been saying that for
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks now. They've got to be better
Speaker 1: on first and second down, give themselves a chance on
Speaker 1: third days. Just go ahead, Kent. We're taking a little
Speaker 1: bit longer such a progress this year, and I really
Speaker 1: don't think that's a bad thing. You know, you'd rather
Speaker 1: be hitting your stride, you know, mid to late season,
Speaker 1: then you know, peaking earlier and you know, not going
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So as long as you
Speaker 1: hit your peak, it really doesn't matter how long it
Speaker 1: takes you. Uh. You know, you could lose six games
Speaker 1: in this league and still go to the playoffs. As
Speaker 1: long as you have this stright at the right time,
Speaker 1: then then you're good. So I mean, but there's no
Speaker 1: penning in this locker room at all. Well, there you go. See,
Speaker 1: I think he makes a good point. He does. Did
Speaker 1: I mean, did anybody think that this was a finished
Speaker 1: product at the beginning of the season, like the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were thirteen and three and boy, here we go again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people thought that. I'm no,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about us. No, But because I thought this
Speaker 1: would be a team that would get better because they
Speaker 1: had so many new parts and young guys trying to
Speaker 1: get in there, and maybe you improve if the season
Speaker 1: goes along. I just didn't think they were finished product.
Speaker 1: Where I where I made the argument was that when
Speaker 1: people wanted to talk about Dak and the sophomore slump,
Speaker 1: my point was, well, he can't have a sophomore slump
Speaker 1: because of Dez Bryant, Cole Beasley, Jack Martin, Travis, Frederick Ezekiel,
Speaker 1: Elliott Scott Linahan, the people around him. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: not going to have a sophomore slump because of the
Speaker 1: people around him. And so I'm looking bad right now
Speaker 1: because maybe the people around him are letting or letting
Speaker 1: this team down right now. And I don't mean that
Speaker 1: in a way of I'm just trying to point out
Speaker 1: where I saw it the wrong way that, you know,
Speaker 1: I felt like that, Hey, don't put it all on Dak.
Speaker 1: That's fine, I mean, don't do that, but think about
Speaker 1: the reason why he had success with the guys around him.
Speaker 1: And we've had some questions about the guys around him.
Speaker 1: So the finished product question, I don't or the finished
Speaker 1: product answer. You know, maybe I didn't think that way,
Speaker 1: but I've surely felt like that offensively they were better
Speaker 1: than what they were defensively. I don't have as many
Speaker 1: questions Defensively. I'm glad they're playing the young players, but
Speaker 1: I have a little bit paul Is about what's going
Speaker 1: on on offense. Keep shaking you. I just disagree with Mickey.
Speaker 1: Maybe none of us on our on this show felt
Speaker 1: that way. I thought they'd be better running the ball
Speaker 1: offensively than they have been, even having two guys play
Speaker 1: positions they'd never played in the NFL. Yeah, because you're
Speaker 1: talking about the offensive line, because how many teams have
Speaker 1: three All pros in their office? Yeah? But here, did
Speaker 1: you hear Frederick yesterday? I hear that. But I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I think that can raise the level of play
Speaker 1: for the other that's not helping them out. Well. I
Speaker 1: think Brian makes a good point too, like they're paying
Speaker 1: they're playing excellent fronts. Yeah, and that has that has
Speaker 1: to be taken to account. But I do think I
Speaker 1: expected this offense to be a little, I would say
Speaker 1: finished product by this point based on what they did
Speaker 1: last year. They've got a philosophy, they have most of
Speaker 1: the pieces back and just keep it going. But I
Speaker 1: think you do have to give credit to the quality
Speaker 1: of players that they've been playing. And I do think
Speaker 1: it's going to get better. Yeah, well that was my point.
Speaker 1: It'll get better, but it's not a finished product to
Speaker 1: start Leale Collins hadn't played right tackleson LSU. Yeah, see
Speaker 1: we were he was left tackle. I was thinking that
Speaker 1: has Green never played guard? Everybody else's back. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: see what did Fredericks say yesterday? You miss one block?
Speaker 1: Oh no, the whole offensive. That's bad. That is true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is true. No, and that's we always talk about
Speaker 1: evaluate offensive lineman on sixty five plays, not on one play.
Speaker 1: So but if you have where you have multiple plays
Speaker 1: where you have guys like to say, the left guard
Speaker 1: was not very good the other day, you know, consistently
Speaker 1: wasn't very good. So you're gonna have problems moving to football.
Speaker 1: But I bought into I bought into the teammate factor
Speaker 1: on offense. Yeah, I really really bought in it. And
Speaker 1: I still think that's fairer because these guys are still
Speaker 1: good players and they've played together. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: Zeke averaging three yard point six per carry. I just
Speaker 1: can't see that continuing. Well, take out, it's gonna get better.
Speaker 1: Take out the second game, and what's the averaging because
Speaker 1: the average out the window. When you get nine carries
Speaker 1: for eight yards, that just skews the whole thing. Like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's all three four games, he's been bad. Ye been
Speaker 1: bad for four games. You know, I didn't say he
Speaker 1: did happen out run that happened? Well, I know, I
Speaker 1: am at it. I am surprised they didn't run the
Speaker 1: ball effectively in the second half of that game last
Speaker 1: week against the Ring. But I understand the competition. I'm
Speaker 1: the one that talking about that, and I get what
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald is and Michael Brockers and those guys. I
Speaker 1: get what that is. But that surprised me in the
Speaker 1: second half. I was sitting in I was sitting in
Speaker 1: the studio at halftime, thinking, Okay, just keep doing what
Speaker 1: you're doing. Yeah, just what's your adjustment second half? Ryan,
Speaker 1: Keep doing what you're doing, Keep keep running the ball.
Speaker 1: If Ezekiel Elliott found a way to have I mean,
Speaker 1: we had sixty something yards and get one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty yards by half and had one hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: three in the Yeah, you forgot about the brilliance of
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips. That that was, That was that was talked about,
Speaker 1: That was talked about. But I just to me that
Speaker 1: that part of it was a little surprising and and
Speaker 1: and may that's on me for feeling like that, Hey, no,
Speaker 1: this team and maybe I thought they were finished product Mickey,
Speaker 1: because of I thought of a Hall of Fame tied end.
Speaker 1: The quality at wide receiver, the quality of the slot,
Speaker 1: the quality of the running back, the quality of the quarterback,
Speaker 1: the quality of the offensive line even though it was
Speaker 1: missing two parts, and it's all still quality. Like so
Speaker 1: you're not wrong there and thinking that way. You know,
Speaker 1: I think the opponents have had something to do with this,
Speaker 1: of course, but it's it gives me a little concern
Speaker 1: that they did not in the second half finished the
Speaker 1: game like they started. The start was brilliant at that
Speaker 1: football game. At fifteen play, eighty one yard drive, they
Speaker 1: it was like, okay, that's that's the twenty six and
Speaker 1: they like it. Let's see more of that. And they
Speaker 1: had the fumble, the muff punt that Mickey's right, that
Speaker 1: killed any time. That could have been just the nail
Speaker 1: right there. If they would have got the ball and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now you're driving seventy yards thirteen play,
Speaker 1: you could have taken their will to compete right there.
Speaker 1: But you know, a sudden, they get a short touchdown.
Speaker 1: The three touchdowns, three point the points they scored, we're
Speaker 1: all off short field drives, you know, and that's some
Speaker 1: self inflicted stuff. Thirteen points. Yeah. And by the way,
Speaker 1: Nelson did not play in that playoff game. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so that's where he got whacked in the back at
Speaker 1: the Giants game and they and he sat out. That's right,
Speaker 1: so broken Ribs didn't let him play. Maybe it will
Speaker 1: be Oh forebore a little foreshadowing here, And of course
Speaker 1: Cowboys will have their second practice report out today and
Speaker 1: we will talk about it when we come back for
Speaker 1: our Friday show of Talking Cowboys. We'll get into who
Speaker 1: we think will be inactive. They might answer this question
Speaker 1: for us. Yeah, we gotta remember to pick our player.
Speaker 1: I don't think we did it. Like to keep picking Lawrence.
Speaker 1: So Lawrence, how did you get a chance to do?
Speaker 1: Say it right now? You can't do that. I can't
Speaker 1: do it, guys, guys, So we'll have some random for
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