1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Hootie. Who this is George. I just wanted to check 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: in and make sure everyone was feeling safe and heard, 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: and also more importantly announced that we have three live 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: shows coming up in November, if you can even believe that, 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: and they are as follows. Our New York Comedy Festival 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: show is at the Bellhouse on Wednesday, November nine. Our 7 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: Vulture Festival show in l A, which will be our 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: first ever l A show, is on Saturday, November twelve. 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: And then we have one more l A show at 10 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: the Allegian Theater on Monday, November fourteenth, which hasn't even 11 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: been announced yet, but I'm telling you here now, and 12 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: then at some point this week the tickets will be 13 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: available on the website, so you can buy tickets for 14 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: all of those at the Bellhouse website, at the Vulture 15 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: Festival website, and at the Illusion website later this week. 16 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: They're not there now, but I promise I'm not making 17 00:00:42,680 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: it up. Okay. Enjoy Gabe by Hi, Hi, Hi, Hi. 18 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: How's it going so good? How are you? It's good 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: to see you. It's really good to see you. Yeah, 20 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: it's actually really good to see you. George. Look at 21 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: me in the eyes. It's amazing to see you, and 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm feeling grounded by your presence and stam. You know, 23 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: I know we've had our differences in the past, but 24 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: actually today I feel like I am actually happy to 25 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: see you. I am so happy to see you. Despite 26 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: our political differences. Yeah, I think, UM, despite most things 27 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: about you, and despite our past, today this, in this moment, 28 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm feeling okay about seeing you. I'm feeling so okay. 29 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: Can I say something? Yeah? Can I say something? This 30 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: is really controversial, please, but I think it needs to 31 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: be said, and I think if we avoid saying it, 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: then we're not being truthful and good podcasters. I think 33 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: that if things went awry with our UM podcast and 34 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: even our lives, if we you and I hooked up, 35 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: they would save everything. I think people would be so 36 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: obsessed with it. I think, no, no, I think listen 37 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: to this. If we hooked up, people would go absolutely 38 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: bonkers crazy. People would be so excited. It would be 39 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: like a positive It would be like, you know, Trump 40 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: losing again or something. I don't think I realized the 41 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: point you were making. So you are saying by people 42 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: you mean simply the listeners of this podcast, I think. 43 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: But the way internationally, I mean there would be an 44 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: international sensation. I think people would be because first the 45 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: podcast listeners would like lose their minds and people would 46 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: be so curious as to why, you know, everyone was 47 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: out on the streets screaming that they would also then 48 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: sort of mob mentality get swept up in it. So 49 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: you're saying, if things go ari, meaning if we stop 50 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: being like, if this podcast kind of starts flopping. You know, 51 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: the reviews are one star, one star, one star used 52 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: to be another bad, shut up, dumbass fag. You know, 53 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: you know you're saying, the solution to that would be 54 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: us doing a kind of pr stunt by hooking up. 55 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: I think the fact that we could do that and 56 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: save our reputations and careers at any point in time 57 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: it is actually really comforting me. So I not only 58 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: completely agree, but have literally thought about this and I've 59 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: actually imagined what it would be like if the episode 60 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: where we introduced that as a concept, we're like, we're 61 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: starting a normal episode, and then one of us is like, well, 62 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: I guess we should like tell everyone what happened, and 63 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: then the other is like, yeah, so people are going 64 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: to be like kind of shocked by this, but we 65 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: hooked up last night. That would be such a smash 66 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: hit episode and it would be like it would also 67 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: be like kind of like there would be like an 68 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: element of danger because I think people would also be like, oh, 69 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: is the podcast going to end now that they are 70 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 1: like hooking on, and they'd almost like be rooting for us. Well, 71 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: I think that it's a crowded you know, it's a 72 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: crowdit field the gay podcasting space. I think there are 73 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: at least five of them last time I checked, and 74 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: I think that it is really difficult to stand out. 75 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: But I think, yeah, true commitment to the art of 76 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,559 Speaker 1: podcasting would be hooking up with your co host. Yeah, 77 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: And for us to say that if you're not hooking 78 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: up with your co host, like, you're not really committing. 79 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: I swear so many of these gay podcasters today they 80 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: don't really care about the art form. They're not um, 81 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: you know really now I'm like, I don't want to 82 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: and actually, can I take that one step further? I think, 83 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: no matter what your job is, if you're not hooking 84 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: up with your coworkers, you're not really taking it seriously. 85 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: Do you know what's something that's actually true, I've never 86 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: hooked up with a cowork in my life. Well that's 87 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: kind of why. Um, you know, that's why more things 88 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: haven't happened for either of us is because we refused 89 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: to hook up with our coworkers. Damn, that's what's keeping 90 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: us from owning a home. That's what's keeping us from 91 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: the big bucks. Yeah. Well, I mean in terms of 92 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: owning a home, it's like, have you ever hooked up 93 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: with a realtor showing you at a property? No? I'm 94 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: willing to guess no, because if you had, maybe you 95 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: would be a homeowner by now. It's tough. Like when 96 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: I am presented with a realtor, I just get so 97 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: shy and I get so nervous and I almost like 98 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: get self defeating, like, oh, I probably shouldn't hook up 99 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: with them. And it's like, who taught me that? Who 100 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: taught me to not want to hook up with my realtor? 101 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: I'll say, the patriarchy, church? No, well, the church, of course, 102 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: it's all part of the same thing. Uh. But I 103 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: think you know, people think, oh, sleeping your way to 104 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: the top, that's bad. But that's not what I'm talking 105 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: about here. I'm talking about hooking up with a cowork her. 106 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: That is not sleeping way to the top. It is 107 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: actually like solidifying a professional connection, and it's creating a narrative. 108 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: I think that's what that's what's missing. It's it's not 109 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: even about like climbing. It's about creating a story that 110 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: people can get attached to and that people can lose 111 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: themselves in and that has power. And you know when 112 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: they say we're not a business for a family, Well, 113 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: in a family, there's a mom and dad and they 114 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: fuck and then they have a chance. So that's how 115 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: they started, sweetie. That's literally how family works. And so 116 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: if you're not doing that, I don't really understand how 117 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: you expect to kind of make it on the Fortune 118 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: five hundred, how you know, make it on the Forbes 119 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: one hundred, make it on really any list in a 120 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: financial magazine. And if you're not on a list in 121 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: a financial magazine, then why do you work? Why then honestly, 122 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: stop wasting my time, because I came here only to 123 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: speak with and hook up with people who have the 124 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: potential to be on a list on a financial magazine. 125 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: And I'm sorry I'm getting heat, but I don't apologize. 126 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm really tired of people that don't hook up with 127 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: their coworkers. This society is sick, and it's puritanical, it's panicalea, 128 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: and people need to be sucking and fucking their coworkers. 129 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: It is disgusting the lack of sucking and fucking happening 130 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: at board rooms acrosslean In. What about bend over? And 131 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: by the way, I'm saying that about men. Yeah, so 132 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: get your head out of the gutter. Yeah, so get 133 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: your I'm not I'm not like contributing to some kind 134 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: of toxic dynamic and thinking the men bend over. Yeah, 135 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm not being toxic. I'm not telling men to bend 136 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: over and open their holes. Yeah, bend over? Now. So anyway, 137 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: so anyway, how are you? I mean, I'm fine, Like 138 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm at that point now. You know, during 139 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: our last recording, I had, of course, just had my 140 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: morning yogurt. Now it's been long enough that I'm hungry again, 141 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: and that is kind of part of my narrative. M 142 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,559 Speaker 1: m m m. How are you well? I'm actually really 143 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: really good. Um. Yeah, I have no new updates since 144 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: we recorded ten minutes before this episode. Can I say 145 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: something kind of risky? Sure? I mean, we already talked 146 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: about the hooking up thing, and then we do have 147 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: to we do we need to bring in our guests 148 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: because I want to have as much time with him 149 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: as possible. But and actually, maybe I'll introduce this and 150 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: then we can bring in our guests. This is the 151 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: reason this is risky is because this is so in 152 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: the news right now that it's going to be outdated 153 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: by the time this is released. But the thing about 154 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: the Try guys has been in the news. I made 155 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: the mistake of like looking into their uva mm hmmm. 156 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: I have not been so upset by something, and I 157 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: would say like decades. Actually, really I think spiraling it 158 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: not even I mean, yes, spiraling for sure, but not 159 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: in the way you would think. I actually was so 160 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: deeply a ended on a visceral level by by these 161 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: people's six and I and I know when I'm acting 162 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: from a place of jealousy or from a place of 163 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: you know, like I can recognize that in myself. That's 164 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: not what this is. What this is is realizing that 165 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: these four guys, three of whom are straight. The entire 166 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: joke is that they're acting gay. That's the whole joke. Literally, 167 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: that's it. It's like they're trying, we're trying on women's underwear, 168 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: we're trying doing drag, We're trying like uh, you know, 169 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: wearing lipstick. It is. And then and then it's just them. 170 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: It's just like three guys, three straight guys, making like 171 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: the kind of improv face you know when you go 172 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: to an improv show and then someone like makes a 173 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: face and then they're like is that enough? You're like, well, 174 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: actually it's not enough. You're gonna have to do a 175 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: little bit more than that. So it's them doing improv 176 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: face while putting on women's underwear as a joke. And then, 177 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel very bad for the gay guy 178 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: because imagine, um, you know, having your first job out 179 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: of you know whatever, and then your entire career is 180 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: just like hanging out with the three most basic straight 181 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: guys from your first job. You know. Fame really can 182 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: be a prison. Yeah, and listen, I am not to 183 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: be caarce role, but in this case, they do deserve 184 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: to be imprisoned. Anyway. I just wanted to address that 185 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: because I really have not been affected by something that 186 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: much in a while. I really was in a dark place. No, 187 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: I think it's incredible to use your platform to take 188 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: down U the Try guys. I don't want to. I'm 189 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: not commenting on the gay one, the three other ones 190 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: or three of the worst people who have ever lived, 191 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: and that's my final words. Well I will just you know, 192 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: the gay ones not innocent either. Let's say that, listen. 193 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: Being gay doesn't absolve you of your sins. Yes, it 194 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: does not absolve you your sins. But you have to 195 00:10:55,559 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: do what you can to survive. And if that means 196 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: being complicit in literally a decade's worth of improv homophobia, 197 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: then who am I to judge? Wow? Okay, um, I 198 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: love that. Yeah, I'm and I'm sorry to you know, 199 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: take it there. But no, I just was very upset 200 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: and I had to say something. I think it's really 201 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: powerful and I think it's so good to bring that 202 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: raw emotion into this. And also it kind of sounds 203 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: like I'm crying. I just have allergies. Just wanted to 204 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: just want to make it very clear, It's okay. If 205 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: the Try guys are making you cry, I'm just really upset. 206 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: All right, I think it's time to bring our guests. 207 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: I think we actually have to. I want you to 208 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: do the honors. UM. So oftentimes we're mean, um, sort 209 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: of disrespectful to our guests, and I can't even pretend 210 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: to be UM today this guest we are so excited 211 00:11:54,480 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: to have UM. We love to death. Please welcome Gabe Liedman. Hi, Hi, 212 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: thank you for having me and not being mean in 213 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: the intro. You know you have no idea how rare 214 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: that is. Yeah, And in fact, not being mean to 215 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: you is actually disrespectful, and it's sort of treating you 216 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: with kid gloves in a way that's not exactly I 217 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: feel left out. Yeah, but don't be mean because I 218 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: will cry. I'll cry all the way tears. Yeah, George, 219 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: do you want to try to make him cry? Or Okay, 220 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: I feel like you've got something. George is really a 221 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: hateful bit. Yeah, okay, your dogs in the room and 222 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: she's being loud, unprofessional much. Oh, it's so true. She's 223 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: calmed down a bit. She's sitting, she's laying on the floor, 224 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: not quite spluting, but kind of curled up dog style. Um, 225 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: what's spluting? Oh? What's flouting? Not news in New York 226 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: City because okay, so during the last couple of heat wave, 227 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: squirrels were so overheated that they were sort of they 228 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: were laying like belly down legs back legs splayed kind 229 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: of forty five degree just full contact um as a 230 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: way of cooling down, almost I guess, like a lizard. 231 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: And it was this was in the news but like 232 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: almost about New York squirrels. So I'm like shocked that 233 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: I'm the one who knows it is actually humiliating, to 234 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: be honest, but it was. It was called splooting. Maybe 235 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: they were just posing, but like the news was like, 236 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: leave them alone. They're so hot they need to sploot um. 237 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: And that is a way that my dog does, lay 238 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: down almost like a upward facing dog, but back legs 239 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:49,359 Speaker 1: cracking open. Yeah, that's and that's what splooting is, folks. 240 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: Maybe she's posing, first of all. Second of all, maybe 241 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: she is just deepening her yoga practice, opening her hips. 242 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: So much emotion in the hips. That's what they always say, 243 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: do you believe that? I don't, but sometimes they let 244 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: myself fall for it, you know what I mean, Where 245 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm just like, yeah, there is and can I say 246 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: something actually knowing it's not like going into yoga knowing 247 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: it's not true, but letting yourself believe it is actually 248 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: an even more impactful, an important practice. Yeah, more important 249 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: than yoga itself. Yes, because then it becomes intellectual and 250 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: suddenly you're actually a scholar. Yeah. And it's it's sort 251 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: of like an acting class, which is the most important, 252 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: and that's the most important anyone. No, I love when 253 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: they're like, this pose is good for digestion. I'm like, how, 254 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: But I'm I'm gonna run with it. It's amazing. Absolutely, 255 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: I leave yoga and I'm like, I feel, I feel healed. 256 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: I did everything I could possibly do. That's better than doctor. Yes, 257 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: permanently perfect. And then no, um, Gabe, I have a 258 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: process question. Um, so we as you know, um sort 259 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,479 Speaker 1: of how you come on. And then we had discussions 260 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: around tech and then we did a ten minute intro 261 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: in which you had to sit and stare at us. Yeah. 262 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: Do you find that alienating? Or um? Do you find 263 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: that that calibrates you into the tone? It calibrates me 264 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: into the tone. I put myself on mute so as 265 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: to not like to let myself feel like the audience. 266 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: But it was nice to have the visual. Oh there's 267 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: the bark um and uh, No, I was not alienating, 268 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: it was it was fun to just sit back and laugh. 269 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: I was laughing a lot, But I also wanted you 270 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: guys to like, weirdly know I was laughing, And I 271 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: don't know if that's something you could pick up on. Well, 272 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: first of all, we really appreciate that you were laughing, 273 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: now that we know you did it, like almost as 274 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: a performance. No no, no, no, no, no, no, overstating it, 275 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: overstating it so we know that you were faking. I 276 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: guess i'd like it less, you know, I find I 277 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: definitely do that when I'm like hosting a show and 278 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: like especially like back when they were a little more 279 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: ill attended. Um, I would absolutely be in the back 280 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: sort of the following at very normal sets. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, 281 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: it's like the comedy laugh. Oh yeah, it's so hard 282 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: not to do where you're back and you're like, well 283 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: even when something is like not hitting with the audience, 284 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: but you want to signify, like, but I get the joke. 285 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: It's like a knowing a knowing laugh, Like you don't 286 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: get it, but I do. Yeah. And here's the thing 287 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: about it, though, like we can drag ourselves through the mud, 288 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: but it does work. Like when people hear the laugh 289 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: in the back. They're like, Oh, I guess, I guess 290 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: I can, I guess I should actually in my tap 291 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: a little yeah, let it. Let let a laugh trickle out. 292 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: Oh God, what a weird metaphor. I'm allowed to sort 293 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: of enjoy how dating is weird. I've never heard anyone 294 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: expound upon that before. Sometimes I find that I'm laughing 295 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: not at dating being weird, but at like the fact 296 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: that I'm listening to someone talk about dating being weird. 297 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: Can I tell you I actually am having a crisis 298 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: of self because I have, um a thought that George 299 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: I've talked to you about that is sort of a 300 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: dating um is weird? Thought? And I'm like, how do 301 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: you deliver this with this like sincerity because like I 302 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: almost want to couch it in a million, Like, I 303 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: know it's really hacked talk about dating as weird, but um, 304 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: but my theory, um is that in every relationship, someone 305 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: is on camera talent and someone's off camera talent. You 306 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: did launch this theory at our last live show, Well, 307 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: I should say, you know a friend you know. We 308 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: had Larry Owen's on and we did this segment called 309 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: binary Bonanza where we asked him to decide which binaries 310 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: are valid and which ones are not valid. And we 311 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 1: landed on that the three valid binaries are on camera, 312 00:17:53,040 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: off camera Manhattan, Brooklyn and true and false. Yeah, and 313 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: I kind of am like at first it was like 314 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: kind of a joke, and then I'm like, no, those 315 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: are like the only three valid binaries. Actually, like, yeah, 316 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: I am in total agreement. I mean, those are airtight binaries, 317 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: and they are everyone everything falls into those categories in 318 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: the world. Gabe, can I ask in your relationship who's 319 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: on camera who's off camera? I'm on camera. He's off 320 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: camera for sure, big time. And that's how Sam is too. 321 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: You know, That's all I am too. You know, I'm 322 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: in a kind of mixed relationship where both of us 323 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: are in some ways by sexual but not the ways 324 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: you're thinking. Yeah, but not the ways you're thinking, Um, 325 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: we think women are disgusting first and foremost. Yeah, it 326 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: really is like we go back and forth. Sam, would 327 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: you say that's true? I do think that's true. I mean, 328 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: I you know, behind your back, of course, I have 329 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: been trying to figure out who is on camera who 330 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: was off camera Nightly Mish and I don't have discussions 331 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: about it. Yes, Well, you know, it's it's all of course, 332 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: the lead up to us hooking up can too. On 333 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: camera people hook up and now it's a science experience. 334 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes I think like your compass of what is on 335 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: camera and off camera is different, Like you look up 336 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 1: to like a like a domestic adult life, and in 337 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: that sense, I think of Matthew as the on camera 338 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: talent um. But because he doesn't want a domestic life. No, no, 339 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: because he has it, and you know, because he you're 340 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: like um trying to like chase his a little bit 341 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: and but he but you share because then you have 342 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: the life saying yes, yeah, he is this interesting game 343 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: to kind of hear about someone you've never met, fascinating. 344 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm mostly thinking about myself and my my own partnership. 345 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: I want to know more about Matthew. But I also 346 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: feel like, well, so Matthew is a writer, just like 347 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: your husband is a writer. Yeah, yeah, but not a performer. 348 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: Yeah are you guys um partner to the same guy. 349 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,959 Speaker 1: And that complicates on camera off camera? Yes, that contributes 350 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: a lot to it. I mean it spells it right out. 351 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: It's very literal in that sense. But it's like you're 352 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: you know your husband, I would assume does like readings 353 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: for instance, that is on camera adjacent. He does, Yeah, 354 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: it is on camera adjacent. They make him really nervous. 355 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:39,239 Speaker 1: He also um at literally literary events, will kind of 356 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: find himself like the m C of them because he's 357 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: one of the more on camera adjacent of the literary 358 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: world that he exists in. But he doesn't love it 359 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: the way I love it, if that makes sense. For me, 360 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: it charges me up solar power style, and for him 361 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: it's like he needs to like rest afterwards, and it's 362 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: like if we don't have the same experience of it, 363 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: I feel like in his bones he would rather not 364 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: have the attention, whereas I would sooner die. It really 365 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: is difficult than not have enough to go a few 366 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: days without attention is art breaking heart. If I don't 367 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: get external like approval, I start to question if I've 368 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: ever been worthy of approval at all I need And 369 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: you can't go down that road. No, I need um 370 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: near constant thumbs up. It is kind of crazy because 371 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: we surround ourselves now now, I really do not want 372 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: me to be like Mark Marin here, but oh no, 373 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: it's like because we surround ourselves with people that are 374 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: also have the same psychosis. Then you meet someone who 375 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: doesn't and you're like, oh, I didn't know that was 376 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:57,239 Speaker 1: an option. Yeah, yeah, that must be nice for you know. 377 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's it's like when you meet them, 378 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: it's like, how relaxing that must be. I know it's not. 379 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 1: It's not us. No, do you think it's a trauma 380 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 1: response or we come by it naturally? Think about this 381 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: even more broad It's almost like even if I was 382 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,719 Speaker 1: not even though I was pursuing, Like, let's yeah, if 383 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to work marketing or something. Yeah, like if 384 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: I want to work in marketing, I still would be like, well, 385 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: I only want to be at an A list company, 386 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: Like even if I was going to be paid less, 387 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: I want to be at And I'll probably think of 388 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: ads that I could like do a line in. Yeah, 389 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: like maybe we could. This is crazy, I mean I could, 390 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: I could step in. I can just do it like 391 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: I hear it's fun. I think that actually is what 392 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: happens a lot. Yeah, well, I mean, of course, there's 393 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: nothing more heartbreaking than realizing someone is an on camera 394 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: talent and is that is the darkest, dark pniest out 395 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: in the world we live in When you find an 396 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: on camera person who's not being fed there and what 397 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: they become it can be monstrous. That is, that's like 398 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: the funny friend at the like Midwestern barbecue, Like, oh God, 399 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: my stomach is gurgling just thinking of their reality. I'm like, oh, um, Gabe, 400 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: I think it's time for us to jump into our 401 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,719 Speaker 1: first segment, which is called straight Shooters. And in this segment, 402 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: we gauge your familiarity with and complicity and straight culture 403 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: by asking you a series of rapid fire nonsensical questions 404 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: where you have to choose one thing or another thing. 405 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: And the one rule is you can't ask any follow 406 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: up questions about how the game works. Do you copy, copy, Sam, 407 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: take it away? Okay? A Ford F one fifty or 408 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: four score and seven years ago for definite? A Brazilian 409 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: butt lift or a Spanish tortilla, Oh, Spanish tortilla okay. 410 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: Um being from the wrong side of the tracks or 411 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: being on the right side of history wrong side of 412 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: the tracks for okay, Goldman Sacks or the Iceman cometh. 413 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: Well fuck, this one is actually yeah, yeah, this this 414 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: is the one kind of um. So this is gonna 415 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: get you say. That's say Golden Sacks. Yeah, you gotta 416 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: put it. I don't love that about myself, but there 417 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: it is. Okay, a town square or a circle jerk, 418 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: circle jerk okay, Mr Rogers, Mrs doubt Fire or a 419 00:24:55,160 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: doctor dre Mrs Doubtfire all the way baby, Okay. Um 420 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: being melodramatic or going into anaphylactic shock, shock full shock. 421 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: That one was easy for me. Okay, and now pay 422 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: attention to this one. Um the met gala or get 423 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: it mama, wow, George and stupid. This one's a trick question. Um, yeah, 424 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: that's it. I mean, that was that was crazy. My 425 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: heart was racing. There was a point that was good. 426 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: I really was like, he's not gonna be able to 427 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: make it. Like, there was a point where I was 428 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: like worried for you. I was like, he's he's gonna trip, 429 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: he's stumbling, like can he get back up? And then 430 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 1: you did and I was crying and I was so moved. Oh, 431 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: thank you so much. I mean, I really feel like 432 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: Rudy the football player from the movie who saved the 433 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: day and was not powerful, you know, I shocked. Yeah, 434 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: I almost felt like you were so in control even 435 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: when you were like this is a tough one. It 436 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: almost felt like, well, you have rehearsed saying this is 437 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: a tough one. Okay, here's here's what was actually happening 438 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: in that moment. If I can take you inside my brain, 439 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: I okay, you're not allowed to ask follow up questions. 440 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: I just thought, Okay, here's how I'm going to decide 441 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: which is sexier from a straight lens. Wow, and that 442 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: and then so some of them were tough because that 443 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: met Gala one. I honestly don't think either of them 444 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: is sexy from a straight lens. And that's what made 445 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: it a trick question for me. Even even even people 446 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: who show skin at the met Galla or whatever, I 447 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: don't think it's sexy to straight people. That's that's what 448 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: I was wrestling with right there. It's not for men. Yeah. Yeah, 449 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: I've actually never considered how like an average straight man 450 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: thinks of the met Gala. I think he thinks it's 451 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 1: like so gross and stupid and like I wonder if 452 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: it even like makes a blip on his like sonar 453 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: of what's happening in the world on even that day 454 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: when everyone we know is talking about it. I think 455 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: he's like, what and then if he were to, like 456 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: unfortunately scroll by some photos of looks, he'd be like, yeah, 457 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: I don't think he would like feel anything positive about it. Wow, 458 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: I think you're right. I even think they would justify 459 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: a little bit and like maybe even like social justice. 460 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: Like he would be like all this like useless wealth, 461 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: I would give me like that. It's exactly That's that's 462 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: what I was about to say. I forgot about that 463 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: kind of straight guy. Yeah, because he's like thinks he's 464 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: cool and smart. Still he's like just like a show 465 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: of wealth that I don't like isn't buy though, if 466 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: he's aware of the Metgala, yeah, it is, like, well, 467 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: it's kind of like feminine shows of wealth are bad 468 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: and masculine shows of wealth are good. Yes, and I 469 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: am here to say that actually both are good. But 470 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: the representation of masculine shows of wealth at the Matgala 471 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: are Jared Letter well and barely so it doesn't really 472 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: I don't think that that would even like fucking make him. 473 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't think he would recognize it, Oh totally, I don't. 474 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: I don't even think I think the whole of the 475 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: megala is feminine. Is like it's like fashion it's jewelry whatever, 476 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: Whereas I guess masculine displays of wealth are like sports. 477 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, someone owns a sports team. It's like 478 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: Tesla Tesla trucks. Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, yeah yeah, every 479 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: time the big show. Well, it's just like, you know, 480 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: what's a display of wealth? Like literally like watching One 481 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: of the most herring things is watching like Nascard. It's 482 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: like it is they are burning fossil fuels while being 483 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: emblazoned with advertisements on them are and that's okay, but 484 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: Rihanna can't wear a dress. I forgot about political street guys, 485 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: there's so many well you know, they can justify anything 486 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: with kind of a cursory reading of politics. Yeah, it's 487 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: a it's a superpower. Even Yeah, that's why reading is 488 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: a slippery slope. You never know where it might lead. 489 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: I just stay out of the whole thing political. I 490 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: tell vote. Yeah, finally that's fresh Day and Age. They're 491 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: all the same. No, And it's like everyone's telling me 492 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: to vote, and it's like who's telling me? You know 493 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: what I mean? And also where would I even do that? 494 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: And when they're all the same, it's boring. I did 495 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: have a moment I went to I went to vote recently, 496 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: not to brag, and there was a young woman who 497 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: was like very young, like maybe like truly maybe it 498 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: was sex Yeah, she was. She was an infant actually 499 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: um and it was her first time voting, and someone 500 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: was like handing out like um or canvassing, and she 501 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: was like trying to ask about this Canada and she 502 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: was like, so, where do they stand on on prison 503 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: reform or whatever? And the and the woman was like, 504 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: you know, he believes in like criminal justice reform and 505 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: all this stuff. And then the young woman goes, well, 506 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: I actually am more of a I'm I'm more believe 507 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: in abolition, so that's not for me. And I just thought, 508 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: like it's so sweet. I mean, I think it's so inspiring. 509 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 1: But at the same time, the idea that you think 510 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: it's so big exactly, like it's so being nineteen to 511 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: think like abolition, which is something I've read about and 512 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: I and I you know, uh and I you know, 513 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: I've kind of educated myself and all this stuff, like, well, 514 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to go into the voting booth and there 515 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: will be an option for abolition and that will then 516 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: have a chance of winning. Going to go and cast 517 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: my vote for abolishing. Yeah. Yeah, like I'm at actually 518 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: got a vote for abolition. Yeah, so where do I 519 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: whe Where do I check for abolition little dreamer? Yeah? 520 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: I think George actually voted in the same election. I 521 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: want to say, And um, where the one the one 522 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: where abolition was on the table? No? Mine. It was 523 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: like that thing where it's and I know it's important 524 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: to vote, and it was like vote in this primary, 525 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: and I like went and I was like, look at me, go, 526 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to vote and there was literally only one candidate, 527 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: Like I couldn't there was no one like, oh, I 528 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: guess it doesn't this one I could have skipped. Maybe 529 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: this one I could have gone away with missing. What's 530 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: your polling place? Like so beautiful? Especially, oh my god, 531 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: it is stunning. No. I actually ran into someone I 532 00:31:54,360 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: knew from Open Mic Comedy where they running you? Uh yeah, 533 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: it was they want to abolish they want to abolish dating? Yeah, 534 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: swipe left on Taggert. Yeah, so I'm on the apps. Um. 535 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: But we acknowledged each other. But it was weird because 536 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: it was like we didn't really know each other that well. 537 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: How much do we need to talk? Um? Kind of 538 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: a slag. Should we get into our topic? I would 539 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: love that. How do we even start? Um, I'm at 540 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: a loss. Well, I think full transparency Gave and I 541 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: and George all discussed before this episode Service Corps. Was 542 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: I not part of that discussion? Did I not pull 543 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: my weight? Was pregnant? So Gabe and I had this 544 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: really amazing conversation. Actually I remember really specifically. Oh, I 545 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: think George was there. Um, he wasn't contributing very much. Um, 546 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: but it was about um, sort of what the topic 547 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: would be today, and almost as if having a vision, 548 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: Gabe throughout a word at us. Um, Gabe, do you 549 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: want to say what that is? That word? Folks? Woes 550 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: as in shoes, And I bet your homophobic brains are 551 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: thinking shoes aren't those gay guy things? Straight guys walk 552 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: around bare foot? Yeah? Like cave men, right, Yeah, their 553 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: feet are just constantly bleeding. Yeah, and straight women have 554 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: no shoe culture whatsoever. So yes, exactly, I do. I mean, 555 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: I do think Gabe. Immediately there's gonna be some haters, um, 556 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: sort of banging down on their tables at work and 557 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: being like this is not this is not straight culture. 558 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: Bring it on. I love to have feuds with strangers. 559 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: That's what I live for. And we kind of corded 560 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: on our on our podcast, we say please get this 561 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: to the haters and have them tag us on social media. Yes, 562 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: I love at replies. And then actually the problem is 563 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: we have something on the podcast before and then we 564 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 1: do get a one star review and it absolutely ruins 565 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: our weak But that's ridiculous. I know you have to 566 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: to leave a bad review of anything is insane. Can 567 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: you cannot imagine? Um? But but gave what about footwear 568 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 1: to you? Reads as straight? Well, um, I was thinking 569 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: sneaker culture. I'm wearing a pair of hookahs right now. 570 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: I don't know if those are big in New York 571 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: or if they're over Honey, you have a whole different culture. 572 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: You got spluting, you got I've got hocas, hocas. Okay, 573 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: oh wait these are cool? Yeah okay, So these are 574 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: like intense kind of orthopedic um workout shoes that are 575 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: absolutely spreading like wildfire in l A. Which is dangerous 576 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: thing to say fire, Um, but this is a shoe fire. 577 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:18,439 Speaker 1: And these are like hyper practical, comfortable kind of like 578 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: in some there's a way that a dumb mass could 579 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: describe them as ugly sneakers that are like kind of 580 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 1: all the rage. It just made me think about sneaker culture, 581 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: how straight that is. Um, but on these these kind 582 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: of like I was thinking about these as like straight 583 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: guys all across l A and wherever hookahs are popular 584 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: are where this is them wearing platform sneakers like baby spice, 585 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: which is also very in for girls right now, and 586 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: this is like this falls into a very gay and 587 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: very feminine um trend right now, but this is a 588 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: straight guyed version. Um. Yeah, that I was just thinking 589 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: about sucking straight straight sandals, those slides, and just there's 590 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: such a culture. There is a real culture. I feel 591 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: like the way that straight men feel safe getting into 592 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: fashion is if is with things that have some kind 593 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 1: of practical use. So they like watches, they like shoes 594 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: because they're like, well it's about you know, it's about 595 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: like how you know, it's like I'm getting buy an 596 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: expensive sneaker. It's like they would never dare two purchase 597 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: a shirt. No. And it's like they'll wear purple and 598 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: teel nikes, you know, like with a really plain outfit, 599 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: but they would never wear a purple T shirt or something, 600 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: which is just to say exactly what you just said 601 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: with different words no longer. Um, please don't be so 602 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: critical of yourself. Yeah, it's beautiful. Everyone was thinking it. 603 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: And you know what else I'll say is like, controversially, 604 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 1: but straight women also counted straight For straight women, shoes 605 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: are the stereotype is that shoes are this like ornamental, uncomfortable. 606 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's like, well, I'm bleeding, but I like fabulous, 607 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: like that exact stereotype of straight women and the straight men. 608 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 1: It's the opposite. It's like it's like the cooler issue 609 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 1: is the more comfortable it is. It's like the cool 610 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: shoe is a sneaker, blah blah blah. So it's almost 611 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: like footwear is this arena where the differences between genders 612 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: are amplified. Women. Yeah, like women become like sexy little 613 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: secretaries and men become like athletes. Yes, yes, absolutely athletes, 614 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: which does feel sort of, um, it does feel military adjacent. 615 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: It's like I can go into battle any time. Literally 616 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 1: sports is basically the military. Oh absolutely, you know there's 617 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: something too, like in the same way that it's like 618 00:37:54,840 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: I've been experimenting with looking like slubbier, like Okay, like 619 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: I enjoy wearing like basketball shorts now. I think it's 620 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: like kind of sexy to wear basketball shorts. And in 621 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: a similar journey, I've been wearing like, um, like white 622 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: socks and like slide sandals in a way that feels 623 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: so fratty and like and it feels like straight drag 624 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: in a way that feels like fetish where at this point, Yeah, 625 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: which just h it's extremely sexy actually and um, everyone 626 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: should try it. Yeah, I'm wearing my shorts right now. 627 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: It's so nice like basketball or probably more lacrosse link 628 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: but they're being honest, showing a little me. Yeah, of course. 629 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: I mean when I say basketball shorts, I mean they 630 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:48,760 Speaker 1: don't go beyond mid thigh. Um, right, I just don't 631 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: know which sports wear which shorts. I guess basketball shorts 632 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: in the eighties is what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 633 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 1: well they have to be vintage. Yeah of course. Cycle Yeah, 634 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 1: I mean if you're have to up cycle, yeah, you're 635 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,919 Speaker 1: buying you you basically are a Republican living in Idaho. Yeah, 636 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: you might as well cut down a tree yourself. Yeah, 637 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 1: literally as well literally burn fossil fuels in your backyard. Um, 638 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: I also think there's something about footwear where like men 639 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: when they don't have like a home that they own, 640 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: have like a certain amount of money and they're like, well, 641 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 1: what do I buy with my money? What makes me 642 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: feel good? But it is for men, and I feel 643 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: like shoes are the thing that how about straight men 644 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: in like product sneakers that that's the whole thing. I mean, 645 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: that is one of the most toxic things I've ever heard. Yeah, 646 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: it's bad. Or like an Ames belt, yes, or like 647 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 1: even a Gucci belt or something like there's something Yes, 648 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: the buckle has the logo. Yeah, yeah, that can be difficult. 649 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 1: That's a tinder swindler, right, Yes, that's a sign to 650 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: absolutely sprint in the opposite opposite directions happening. Yeah, well, 651 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: it's like you better be like Italian, like, oh well 652 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:23,720 Speaker 1: if anything goes, Yeah, if you're Italian, anything goes quite frankly, yeah, 653 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: a lawless people. It is. It implies a big emotional 654 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: hole that I don't I'm scared to witness. Yeah, I 655 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: think I think. I think it means after shave is coming, 656 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,839 Speaker 1: I think it means, well, there will be a scent 657 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: of some sort and it will be overpowering. There will 658 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: be a scent. Yeah, okay, okay as gay man, if 659 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: I can call you that. Um do what do designers 660 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: shoes mean to you? Have you ever made the jump? 661 00:40:54,239 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: Have you ever uh experimented? Okay, here's my here's my youth. 662 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: Back when I was a young person, uh be, when 663 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: I was starting out in stand up, I worked in 664 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: a retail job. I worked at Barney's in New York City, 665 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 1: very fancy and fun and crazy. And the only pair 666 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: of designers shoes that I have and still have are 667 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: two pairs that I bought as a sales boy at Barney's, 668 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 1: which were there oh backs of I don't know, not 669 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: even back story. Another detail of this story is there 670 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: are special sales just for employees of a lot of 671 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: department stores where stuff is marked down, like when it 672 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: really really doesn't sell, um, and you like pay in cash, 673 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: and it's like it's kind of like a bake sale 674 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: at a school, Like everyone goes into a crazy dizzy 675 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 1: and brings in cash. Um. And I bought two pairs 676 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: of crazy shoes when I worked there that I still love. 677 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 1: One I wore all the way to the end, and 678 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,720 Speaker 1: now they're just sort of cute and on a shelf 679 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: and the others I still wear. Wow, that's that story. 680 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: So I similarly gave I know someone who does pr 681 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: at Gucci and they have this specific website for the employees. 682 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: And one time she was like, okay, I have like 683 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: there's like a flat you know, they just added a 684 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff. It's all gonna run out. Do you 685 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: want anything? And I got a pair of guccilo first 686 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: for sixty dollars, which I think the full price were 687 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: probably like six drede. They they she gets them, they 688 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: come here, They're too big for me. One of the 689 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: most tragic experiences. Yeah, so now you just sort of 690 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: use them as flower pots or I kind of just 691 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: like I haven't been brave enough to get rid of 692 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: them because I'm like maybe I'll grow yeah, yeah. And 693 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: then sometimes I'll be like, Okay, today I'm gonna take 694 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: them to the consignment store, and then I'll try them 695 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: on one last time and I'll be like, well, they're 696 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 1: not that bad. What if you were the real big 697 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: fluffy that would be nice, you know, anything you could 698 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 1: pass anything off his fashion these days. That's true. When 699 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 1: I look at a designer thing, I'm always sort of 700 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 1: like I think of it as a bit. I'm always like, 701 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: this isn't for real people to wear. It's hard for 702 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: me to take it seriously, Sam, you were saying this 703 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: when we went to that store, Remember George and I 704 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: um to come out of the closet, went to the 705 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: Hampton's and went to product. Yeah. I just want to say, 706 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 1: it's so funny. Sam's like kind of attitude towards this 707 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,839 Speaker 1: stuff is so funny because you truly, even when you're 708 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: in it, you're like, this is fake? Are We were 709 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: like this is like the Friends experience in Times Square. 710 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,800 Speaker 1: We're in Central Perk. I literally thought it was like 711 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: a joke. I thought we were all going everything as 712 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: a joke, Like you're like, oh, like I kept saying, 713 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: like we're each getting a bag, like because it's like, well, 714 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: obviously we're not gonna go back there was obviously. I'm 715 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: like this. Those people are like actors to me. I'm like, 716 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: sure's you sure we'll all pretend that you're selling clothes, 717 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god, when really they're like coked up out 718 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 1: of their mind and on the brink of starvation and furious, 719 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 1: literally like I need you to buy something because they're 720 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: so behind them their rent because they fucking snorted it all. 721 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: And then two gay comedians walk in and they're like, yeah, 722 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: let's take a photo. Yeah, they're like, I used to 723 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: do comedy to good luck. Um. Yeah. You know. Can 724 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 1: I say something as someone who has dabbled in you 725 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 1: know there are ways if you like whatever that this 726 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 1: is not interesting, but if you know they're there are ways, 727 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 1: like get vintage stuff, their ways to go in the 728 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 1: real world, they are ways to Like when you do 729 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: buy something that's designer, the feeling, I mean it is 730 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: really disgusting because it's so kind of capitalists for lack 731 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 1: of a better word. The feeling you of joy you 732 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: get when you actually do put on something designer is 733 00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: truly like dangerous because you're like, oh, I understand, I 734 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: would give it all up becomes yeah, yeah, it just 735 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: arrives with like imbued with importance. It's crazy for something 736 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 1: and you're like, I shan't get Olive Oils letters on this, 737 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 1: yeah or whatever. Yeah, totally have I bought a pair 738 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 1: of prad to loafers believe it or not, keep un clearance, 739 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: and every time I wear them, I this is humiliating. 740 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 1: I feel the need to like make a like if 741 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm with a friend, they'll be like, well they're product. Yeah, 742 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,320 Speaker 1: well you don't want them to think it and for 743 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 1: them to then think, oh, well, he doesn't even know 744 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: what everyone's thinking. Yeah, yeah, George, you're you're too lower 745 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: stories in this is I know, Well, you're addicted to loafers. 746 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm addicted to loafers. I just bought my first pair 747 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 1: of loafers since I was a little kid. They're not 748 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 1: they're not designer, but they castles and they are from 749 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: the country of Italy. I was literally boots on the 750 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: ground in that belief people. Um and bought it. Bought 751 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: them at a little store that literally had the sexiest 752 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: salesman I've ever seen in my life, like straight out 753 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: of porn. Like he was like six five, like two 754 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds, really stylish, weirdly fine tattoos and 755 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: like thick Italian accent, and like I saw him sweated 756 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: through all of my clothes, so did my husband. And 757 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,359 Speaker 1: then I bought loafers and um, it was fine. Yeah, 758 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: you know you mentioned you said that they're not designer. 759 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: I actually think and if they're from Italy, they are 760 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: a designer and also yeah, yeah he is, i'mporn he 761 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: that's you should just google him based on my description. Yeah, 762 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 1: I love his stuff. You know. George and I were 763 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 1: recently talking about people who are from porn and sort 764 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 1: of being like, there aren't people who are hot in 765 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: a way that's just like, well, can I just see 766 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 1: all of it? Like yeah, what the hell? Yeah, we 767 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,760 Speaker 1: were talking about someone, um, someone's husband and factor hot husband, 768 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 1: and we were like, well, okay, I mean, why are 769 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 1: you being coy like you are in porn since you 770 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 1: look like that. Yeah, so just show us, just send 771 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 1: pictures like it's fine, just do porn. It's like, yeah, 772 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 1: we have to destigmatize it so that anyone who's hot 773 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 1: can send us. Yeah. Yeah. It was also a funny like, um, George, 774 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 1: just like this guy's husband is super hot, and I 775 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 1: was like, well, I'll be the judge of that. And 776 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: then it was like, oh, wow, you're right, Oh my god, 777 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: he's pulling Wait will we will? We absolutely will. There 778 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 1: was almost something about we were like, okay, wait, his 779 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:53,320 Speaker 1: nipples are not normally they're like, oh they're for porn. Yeah. 780 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,240 Speaker 1: It's like did you get like they're extra big or 781 00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: because they're they're just like they're just like made to 782 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 1: be in like like they're kind of Um, there would 783 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 1: be a moment in the scene they're taunting you because 784 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 1: they're like, look at us, we're nipples. Yeah, okay, I 785 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 1: can picture it. Um. I also want to say it's 786 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 1: really funny to do this podcast and be like, Okay, 787 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: so the straight topic of the day is footwear. We're 788 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,839 Speaker 1: talking about footwear, like straight guys relations where for like 789 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: one minute and then we're like this one time I 790 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: bought loafers. This one time I bought loafers, who mine 791 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 1: designer shoes, who mindsigner shoes, and then cap it off 792 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 1: with like, and when guys are hot, yeah, we should 793 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:45,720 Speaker 1: be able to see them conscripted to a life of nakedness. Yeah, 794 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: it should be. But by law actually yeah, yeah, we 795 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 1: need we need stricter laws. You know, Gabe, I feel like, 796 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:00,879 Speaker 1: you know, you're in a A and I actually feel 797 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: like what you're talking about is even more pronounced than 798 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 1: l A because in California everyone is so casual that 799 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: there are so few ways to show one's wealth or 800 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 1: one's quote unquote good taste. That I absolutely true, you know, 801 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,280 Speaker 1: And I feel like the whole Like if with sneaker culture, 802 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 1: it's very like if you know, you know, like if 803 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: you don't, you see someone wearing a pair of white sneakers, 804 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: are like, whatever, that's a pair of white sneakers. But 805 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: it's like this signaling like look at these, look at these. Yes, 806 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 1: it's like shoes or car or really the only thing 807 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 1: that you can show off in l A. Yeah, it's 808 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 1: it was a weird. So whenever I'm talking to people 809 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:44,760 Speaker 1: who live in New York, I feel like a diabolical urge. 810 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 1: This is my need for attention to tell you that 811 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:47,879 Speaker 1: I used to live in New York. I don't know why, 812 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 1: I like, I need that that validation to note for 813 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 1: you to know that I used to live there anywhere. Yeah, yeah, 814 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 1: it's fair because yeah, um and so when I moved here, 815 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 1: I was kind of shocked by how people dress when 816 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 1: they just leave their house. Now I'm super used to it. 817 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 1: And now I also it's been ten years, I can 818 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 1: see a fashion a quote unquote fashion within it of 819 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: basically you're what would be considered pjs. You wouldn't even 820 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,840 Speaker 1: grab a bagel in it in New York. Um and 821 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 1: uh recently met up with a friend who was just 822 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 1: visiting from New York and what he was wearing compared 823 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 1: to what I was wearing and everyone else around us 824 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: was a real shock where it was like he was 825 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,240 Speaker 1: wearing layers, he was wearing shoes that were in seekers, 826 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,840 Speaker 1: he was wearing pants that were not sweats, he was 827 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 1: wearing a T shirt and a jacket, and like I 828 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 1: was super put together and was like, right, that's what 829 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: New York City is like. Um, and here everyone is 830 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 1: like a real glub and um, it's just kind of fine, 831 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: which is relaxing as hell. I have to say it 832 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 1: is relaxing as hell. California fashion is so funny it 833 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 1: actually it makes me stressed out because it's almost like, 834 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,439 Speaker 1: at least when you're in not even just New York, 835 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 1: but like let's say in the Northeast, you know there 836 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 1: are some rules where you're like, okay, I know that 837 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to wear closed toe shoes to a wedding. 838 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: Like literally, when I used to live in San Francisco, 839 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 1: I saw people wearing like flip flops to weddings that 840 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 1: were at like expensive venues. We're like, what are we 841 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 1: doing here? Like you would go like to a wine like, um, 842 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, to NAPA or something at a winery and 843 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:41,879 Speaker 1: it's it would be someone in board shorts and like 844 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 1: a tank top, like a stained tank top, and they'd 845 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: be like, well, our cab this year's absolute piss. Yeah. 846 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,760 Speaker 1: The way that a Henley is basically like a tie 847 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 1: and a shirt where it's yeah, it's like, okay, if 848 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 1: I was going to if I was straight and I 849 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 1: was going to NAPA, I might bring a Henley instead 850 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,800 Speaker 1: of like the toilet paper. I just wiped my asks 851 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,359 Speaker 1: to wear a shirt, which is what I would wear 852 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 1: to taste the menu in the of course. Yeah, oh 853 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: and you look fabulous doing it. Absolutely. Do You know 854 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,239 Speaker 1: what else is kind of fun about something that is 855 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 1: kind of like, uh funny about l A fashion is 856 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,799 Speaker 1: that it's almost like there's no set rules, so basically 857 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: everyone just has to have to really commit to their 858 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 1: own style. So you will see some people walking and 859 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: it's like a straight couple. Let's say a guy and 860 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 1: a girl and the guy will be like a full 861 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,320 Speaker 1: goth and the girl will be a full like Heidi Montag, 862 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 1: like like blonde girl from the Hills, and you're like, well, 863 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 1: those two don't go together in real life. But No, 864 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 1: it's just that they each were like, well, I found 865 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 1: my style finally, now I can go out. Yeah, and 866 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 1: we met we met through mutual friends, and everyone just 867 00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 1: has a different extreme look. Yeah, for sure. It's just crazy. 868 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,799 Speaker 1: I don't think I fully understood the casual level of 869 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 1: California clothing. And I'm realizing now that when I was 870 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,799 Speaker 1: when I've been there, I've probably been dressing a little 871 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 1: business man. People. Probably I was trying to sell something. Yeah, 872 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,240 Speaker 1: everyone was like, is that the CEO of Warner Brothers? 873 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 1: Why is he so corporate in my like little colored shirt. God, 874 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,879 Speaker 1: I probably look like such a loser. Sam, you were, 875 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 1: I bet you look great. No wonder I didn't get 876 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 1: the big deal. Honestly, the chicest thing you can be 877 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 1: in l A is visiting from New York, and it 878 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: goes away immediately when you when you move here and 879 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 1: you're like, no, I just moved here from New York 880 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 1: and people are like, it's not the same as you 881 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:50,279 Speaker 1: visiting from you You're you're a slab like us. You're 882 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 1: a soulless, fucking drought slab. Like. Maybe the worst I've 883 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 1: ever felt in my life is when I went to 884 00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 1: a Halloween party in Los Angeles and was the only 885 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 1: one not in costume, not in costume because so I 886 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 1: just like, you know, whatever, I didn't prepare and then 887 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 1: you know, people always say like it's optional, and I'm 888 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,359 Speaker 1: also like, well, I'm sir whatever you know. Yeah, and um, 889 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 1: but of course, because it's all industry professionals, people are like, oh, yeah, 890 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,440 Speaker 1: the team over at um, Mike and Molly did my 891 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 1: map or whatever. Um. And I truly was like person 892 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 1: after person would say hi to me and then kind 893 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 1: of look me up and down and be like, oh 894 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 1: you didn't dress up? Yeah, that it sucks? Was it 895 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 1: more like, um, so what are you like? Almost thinking 896 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: it was like a joke. There was some people attempted that, 897 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 1: and then other people just kind of ignored. They were like, 898 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,719 Speaker 1: you're not even registering really as a person. Can I 899 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 1: give you my coat? Yeah? Wow? So what are you? 900 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,759 Speaker 1: Guys aren't like dressing up this year or whatever? You 901 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,320 Speaker 1: don't like it, so you're not gonna like do it? Sorry? 902 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 1: Do you dress up? Sound? Yeah? I mean I have to. 903 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: It's part of your you have this, Like we talked 904 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 1: about it actually recently on the on the most rests, 905 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 1: it's like a child. You maintain your childlike wonder. I 906 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,279 Speaker 1: like to return to time as a choice. I like 907 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 1: to return to often, and I think it's powerful. Also, 908 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,240 Speaker 1: like you know, Misha, my boyfriend is like art school 909 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,799 Speaker 1: boy and all his friends are art school people, and 910 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 1: so like they took costumes very seriously for a while. 911 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,440 Speaker 1: They dress up for every day. Actually they you know, 912 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,879 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it'll be just a Tuesday in May. 913 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:45,319 Speaker 1: Suddenly there's a Riddler from the Riddler. Um they one 914 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,760 Speaker 1: year um one of his friends Angelo shout out. Angelo 915 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 1: went as such a realistic legalist that it was like 916 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 1: this isn't this isn't a costume, Like you are like 917 00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 1: ready to walk on set, like it's too much, and 918 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,399 Speaker 1: everyone else is like in cat ears and like has 919 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,759 Speaker 1: a drawn on nose and it's like legos the archery. 920 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,280 Speaker 1: Am I thinking it did? Were? Did he have arrows? 921 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 1: And every end he had a full He had arrows, 922 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 1: he had a bow, he had he did the wig 923 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 1: with like the little tiny like two braids. That was insane. 924 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 1: One time I was at a Halloween party and our 925 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,360 Speaker 1: good friend Greta Titleman walked in dressed as the woman 926 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,719 Speaker 1: on the cover of Blank Win eight two Enemy of 927 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,280 Speaker 1: the State, like with the Glove and it was so 928 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 1: uh so spot on that I actually became angry with. 929 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 1: I was like, fuck off, Like, we're all doing our 930 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:44,319 Speaker 1: best here. That is amazing. But one year when I 931 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 1: my final year of Halloween, I will do um a 932 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 1: couple's costume salmon froto. That's going to be the end 933 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,279 Speaker 1: of Halloween for me. And oh, I was like, and 934 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 1: then you're gonna kill and then I'm gonna jump off 935 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: a damn cliff. That will be the end of my time. 936 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:03,600 Speaker 1: It will be beautiful. Make sure to get it on camera. Okay, 937 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 1: any final thoughts on footwear as straight Carter, No, this 938 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:15,840 Speaker 1: is a genius podcast. Um, I love you know. We 939 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 1: started this episode critiquing our fellow gay podcasters, and I 940 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 1: want to end with a critique too. I say, you know, 941 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,240 Speaker 1: so many of these these gay podcasters, they're so tied 942 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 1: to what they're a show is about, and it's actually 943 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 1: sad and and it should be about breaking the boundaries 944 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 1: of what the podcast can be and sort of being 945 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:44,000 Speaker 1: on topic. Um should every episode, first episode. It is 946 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 1: just crazy to break down so many boundaries and then 947 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 1: put one up when you're in a podcast. There's nothing 948 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 1: worse than than being a slave to routine. You know, 949 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 1: I kind of I wake up every day, no to 950 00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 1: do list, no alarm, you know, I kind of do 951 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,880 Speaker 1: whatever is in front of me first. You know. Yeah, 952 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,800 Speaker 1: I maybe scrambling, I may be late, I may be unproductive, 953 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,640 Speaker 1: but I'm free. Yeah. And at least I'm at least 954 00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm living authentically. At least I'm living out loud. I 955 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 1: can't say the same for a lot of you. Yeah, 956 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 1: at least I'm literally Patti Smith and I wrote Just Kids. Yeah. 957 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 1: And I'm doing poetry, so shut up. Yeah exactly. And 958 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm doing spoken word poetry literally every second of every day, 959 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 1: and I'm famous for it, exactly. And I'm on the 960 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,400 Speaker 1: covers of magazine. But you never heard of them because 961 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 1: they're for real artists and they're really big and they 962 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 1: come tways a year yeah yeah. And they're called like 963 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 1: Monument Yeah. And they have really expensive shoots for some reason. 964 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 1: I don't know where they get the money, but they 965 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 1: do have expensive shoots. Yeah. You might think it's dark money, 966 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 1: but shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up. Don't 967 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:49,520 Speaker 1: ask where the money comes from. Don't ask. So um 968 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 1: so Yeah, that's pretty much my call out to our 969 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 1: coworkers in the gay podcasting space. Step it up, hook 970 00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:00,560 Speaker 1: up with each other, yes truly, and forget the themes. Yeah, 971 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 1: step it up, hook up with each other and forget 972 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 1: about the themes. Well, um, so I guess we should 973 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,160 Speaker 1: do our final Segmentum So, I mean this has been 974 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 1: such a blast. I want to. I want to keep going. 975 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 1: This has been truly amazing. Um and Gabe, not to 976 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 1: completely blow up your spot, but you actually mentioned that 977 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,440 Speaker 1: you came prepared for this segment, which is unprecedented. No 978 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,480 Speaker 1: one has ever come prepared for this. George and I included, Wait, 979 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 1: can I say something, Sam, Remember when we were like, 980 00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 1: we were debating. We were like, should we kind of 981 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,480 Speaker 1: gush about Gabe on air or would that be too much? 982 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,160 Speaker 1: And I feel like we ended up not doing it. Yeah. 983 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 1: I felt I wasn't sure how to handle it. Oh 984 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 1: my god, so we would do So maybe we won't 985 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 1: do it, but I want to. I want to as well. 986 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,920 Speaker 1: I started my permission to do it. I'm gonna be 987 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna squirt. It's just difficult because you know, we know, 988 00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 1: we really like not only are we mean to our 989 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 1: guests to alienate them and in fact of ruined friendships. Um. 990 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 1: But also even when they come prepared to promote something, 991 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 1: we intentionally don't mention it to punish them forgetting. So 992 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 1: it's difficult for us to kind of get into that 993 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 1: art a space. I would say, yeah, but it really 994 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 1: But but you really are one of the few. I'm 995 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 1: not sorry I should not say one of the few. 996 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 1: We are very excited about all of our guests. Wow, 997 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 1: be a bit. I love that there was there was 998 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,680 Speaker 1: something we were just both like genuinely earnestly very excited 999 01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 1: to have you on. Yeah, and if we're gushing, okay, 1000 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,440 Speaker 1: but when I first went to New York, I came 1001 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,920 Speaker 1: to Big terrific you were and it was like, Wow, 1002 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 1: that's the guy. Like it was really like he's doing it. 1003 01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,560 Speaker 1: That's what I want to do. And it was very 1004 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 1: inspirational to see that. And you were so funny, and 1005 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 1: I was that's really sweet. I would like listen to 1006 01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,440 Speaker 1: your Your album was like one of the comedy albums 1007 01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:02,160 Speaker 1: I would recommend to people that like, um, that's also 1008 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:07,080 Speaker 1: really sweet and I'm flattered and you know what, and 1009 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,560 Speaker 1: I love your show and you're both so funny, and 1010 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,720 Speaker 1: I'm so thrilled to be here as a guest on 1011 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,520 Speaker 1: an episode and fun are your other guests I don't 1012 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 1: even like as much because I feel bad for them, 1013 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 1: And um, thank you again, this is just a dream. Yeah, 1014 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 1: and toritod George's point. I do want to say, Um, 1015 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 1: you're one of the few guests we like. If you've 1016 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,440 Speaker 1: been on this podcast before, UM, just know that if 1017 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,480 Speaker 1: we were nice to you, it was fake. And UM, 1018 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 1: if we were mean to you, we meant it. Um. Yeah, 1019 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 1: not with Gabe though. Gabe is the only one we 1020 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 1: actually like. Yeah. It's really refreshing to finally have to pretend, well, 1021 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,280 Speaker 1: we did it, we were earnest, we did it, and 1022 01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 1: we tried. I mean, that was really sweet. I feel 1023 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 1: like there's more to say, but I'm bad we can 1024 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 1: get it anymore. Other wise literally I will throw up. 1025 01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 1: Let's throw up. Yeah, let's do final segment. George, were 1026 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 1: you introduced? Can I say one thing? Seeing of throwing up? 1027 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,959 Speaker 1: Last night, I was in an uber I. As I mentioned, 1028 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,240 Speaker 1: I have been having debilitating allergies. Last time I was 1029 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 1: in uber I kind of just like blew my nose 1030 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:15,360 Speaker 1: in the uber um and then I look up, and 1031 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:16,720 Speaker 1: I sort of got I was sending the back seat. 1032 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,280 Speaker 1: I look up and I see the driver. We were 1033 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,160 Speaker 1: stopped at a red light. I see the driver having 1034 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 1: he had turned his face around completely and was staring 1035 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,520 Speaker 1: me down in like a scary way where I was like, 1036 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,480 Speaker 1: what is going on, like like to see like a 1037 01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 1: kind of a large man just be like looking at 1038 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 1: you and where oh you could hit me. And I 1039 01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,360 Speaker 1: was like, oh, hello, you you scared me, Like what's 1040 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 1: going on? And he was like, oh, I thought you 1041 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,720 Speaker 1: threw up? And then he just turned around and kept driving, 1042 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:49,040 Speaker 1: and I was like shaking. I just have you know, 1043 01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 1: like it's kind of like when in horror movies someone 1044 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 1: looks in the mirror and someone's behind them, Like I 1045 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 1: just looked up expecting to see like the car seat, 1046 01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,919 Speaker 1: and he was looking at me like two feet away 1047 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,920 Speaker 1: from my face. Nightmare. Anyway, it was difficult, difficult thing 1048 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 1: to go through. And I'm going to say it, there's 1049 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 1: no way that you blown your nose sounded like throwing up, 1050 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 1: and I just want to say it was a light. 1051 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,960 Speaker 1: It was a light sniffle. I was not like, you know, 1052 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:18,760 Speaker 1: kind of like hawking flint and it just sounds completely sorry. 1053 01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I believe the driver. I think you 1054 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 1: would know what throw up it's like. And I think 1055 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 1: like George is trying to be right the narrative to 1056 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,560 Speaker 1: make the driver look insane, and it's like, okay, fine, 1057 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 1: I did throw up, trying to pass it off as 1058 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 1: if he was blowing his nose. Unbelievable. Yes, I threw 1059 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 1: up and then I left and then I didn't tip, 1060 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,440 Speaker 1: and so whatever. If that's a crime, then put me 1061 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:44,080 Speaker 1: in rail So whatever. Um, Okay, Sam, you can introduce 1062 01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 1: the final segment. Okay, final segments called shout outs, and 1063 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,480 Speaker 1: then this segment um. In the classic street tradition, we 1064 01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,120 Speaker 1: give a shout out to anything that we enjoy. Um. 1065 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,560 Speaker 1: Imagine that it's two thousand one and you're in time 1066 01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:57,960 Speaker 1: Squirret TRL shouting out to your squad back home. But 1067 01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 1: about anything that you like? George Ianna, do you have one? 1068 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:10,720 Speaker 1: I have one? Yeah? Um, what's up, freaks and losers, 1069 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 1: it's your boy, George. I want to give a shout 1070 01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:18,400 Speaker 1: out to Mac and Cheese. As I get peer, fewer 1071 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,680 Speaker 1: things that actually bring me back to a child like state, 1072 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,439 Speaker 1: and it's really something that I lamented, something that makes 1073 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,840 Speaker 1: me really sad. You know. Sometimes I'll try to listen 1074 01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:28,120 Speaker 1: to music that I listen to when I was a 1075 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,360 Speaker 1: kid or when I was a teen, and it won't 1076 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,240 Speaker 1: hit the same way. Sometimes I'm trying to watch a movie. 1077 01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 1: Don't want hit the same way. Do you know what? 1078 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,600 Speaker 1: Always it's the same way Mac and cheese. When I'm 1079 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,200 Speaker 1: eating mac and cheese, I'm literally on a booster seat. 1080 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm ordering off the kid's menu. My parents are taking 1081 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 1: care of everything. I don't know what money is. I 1082 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,200 Speaker 1: don't know what a bank account is. I do not 1083 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,720 Speaker 1: know what realist it is. If you eat mac and cheese, 1084 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,080 Speaker 1: you can finally be a kid again and you will 1085 01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,520 Speaker 1: not have to pay rent. So shout out to mac 1086 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,160 Speaker 1: and cheese. Go and you know what I if you're vegan, 1087 01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,240 Speaker 1: if you're gluten free, there are options out there and 1088 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,040 Speaker 1: they all taste delicious. That proto go out there and 1089 01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,200 Speaker 1: find some mac and cheese and have a giant bowl. 1090 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:10,320 Speaker 1: Not as an advertiser, as a main whooh wow call 1091 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:15,000 Speaker 1: to action. Um, okay, what's up creeks, losers in perverts 1092 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,840 Speaker 1: around the globe. I want to give a huge shout 1093 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:23,120 Speaker 1: out to my phones camera who baby, this technology is 1094 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,680 Speaker 1: just incredible. I have been having so much fun taking 1095 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,920 Speaker 1: being like at a party and being like, wait, I'm 1096 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,400 Speaker 1: gonna take a bunch of pictures right now. It's so 1097 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,160 Speaker 1: like like it's in a way where I'm like in 1098 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,400 Speaker 1: wonder of like, oh wait, I'm allowed to just do 1099 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,880 Speaker 1: this right now. And there was a point, maybe even 1100 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,439 Speaker 1: a decade ago, where this was much harder, And now 1101 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 1: I have all the power in the world and I 1102 01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,680 Speaker 1: can take twenty dumb photos and laugh laugh, laugh, laugh, laugh. 1103 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,960 Speaker 1: Especially the people that were around, Oh baby, they love 1104 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,080 Speaker 1: when you're taking a picture of them and they want 1105 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 1: to they'll you don't even have to say and now 1106 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,600 Speaker 1: do a goofy one, They're already doing it. It's fun. 1107 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,000 Speaker 1: It lightens the mood. And whenever you're board, just take 1108 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:08,959 Speaker 1: out your phone camera and start going crazy. Wow. Yeah, 1109 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 1: this is actually a realization. Such a nice make so 1110 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,880 Speaker 1: far gave Bloder pressure. Oh ship. I should not have 1111 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:20,280 Speaker 1: said that I was prepared for this, but I did 1112 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,680 Speaker 1: say it, And here we go. Yeah, whenever you're ready. 1113 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:30,000 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. This escaped from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and I 1114 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:33,400 Speaker 1: want to give a quick shout out to the reusable 1115 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:38,880 Speaker 1: flower uh sleeves at Trader Joe's for when you're buying flowers. 1116 01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:44,600 Speaker 1: They sell these reusable, conically shaped sleeves there that make 1117 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,800 Speaker 1: buying flowers so much easier because you know, the bottoms 1118 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,280 Speaker 1: of those things are always slimy and wet and gross, 1119 01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,120 Speaker 1: and you don't want them anywhere near your groceries, and 1120 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,840 Speaker 1: it's hard to sort of stand up flowers in your cart. 1121 01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,480 Speaker 1: So this makes it all way easy. Or they cost 1122 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,280 Speaker 1: about three dollars. You can use them forever, folks. So 1123 01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:07,920 Speaker 1: for all the other amateur florists out there in straight world, 1124 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 1: Trader Joe's has these reusable sleeves. Thank you so much. 1125 01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,320 Speaker 1: I love when there's a new invention. I work for 1126 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,840 Speaker 1: Trader Joe's. I know I could, I could really feel that. Yeah, well, 1127 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:24,840 Speaker 1: we are sponsored by Trader Joe's. Yeah. No, it's amazing 1128 01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,600 Speaker 1: to when you can get brand synergy in the shoutouts. 1129 01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 1: That's what I live for, that's what I live. Well, 1130 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,200 Speaker 1: this has been such a true delight. I wish it 1131 01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:41,439 Speaker 1: could go forever forever, but unfortunately I have to pee, 1132 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,160 Speaker 1: and that's how life gets. Yet, thank you so much 1133 01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:48,680 Speaker 1: for coming on. There's an absolute Dream thank you so much. 1134 01:07:48,920 --> 01:08:02,480 Speaker 1: We really thank you for having me. This is so fun.