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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: We are back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt. It is mock Draft time, our

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Speaker 2: penultimate two more to go mock draft of the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four draft season, and we're using the Pro Football

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Speaker 2: Network dot com mock drafters today. I just saw it today.

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 2: NFL dot Com has one as well, but it only

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Speaker 2: goes three rounds. I mean, I have to try that

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Speaker 2: one out tonight.

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Speaker 3: A little shock. ESPN and NFL dot Com are a

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Speaker 3: little behind the game on this. Yeah, a lot of

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Speaker 3: people are using on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get a lot of hits, a lot of draft. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: we are up here. Some of the players available, Jase Latham,

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Speaker 2: Brian Thomas, Johnny Newton, Iron Murphy, Chopp Promins, and Nate Wiggans, Cooper.

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Speaker 3: Dejan Latham's would be really hard for me, give me

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Speaker 3: hard to move from offense.

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Speaker 2: We got, Yeah, we got three trade offers.

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Speaker 3: We consider going to twenty two or twenty three, maybe

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Speaker 3: because Thomas and de Jean are there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe, but I'm gonna move away from Latham.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Latham would fall more than to It's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna cost me a lot, you know, I'm gonna need

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Speaker 2: a lot to move away from.

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Speaker 3: We talk about the draft for the Steelers, moved up

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Speaker 3: to get them. Yeah, and we didn't have a problem

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Speaker 3: with the right.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So I'm going really gonna move away from him? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I doubt it.

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Speaker 2: The Raiders, though, offering pick forty four, pick seventy seven,

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Speaker 2: next year second and next year's third for twenty and

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Speaker 2: one ninety five.

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Speaker 3: It'd be interesting, I mean, like it'd be fun to

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Speaker 3: do a choose your own adventure where we did both.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like and see what we get.

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Speaker 3: Because think the Raiders might pick them top five.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's the thing you might be getting the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the same. We'll give you a second next year.

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Speaker 2: You might be you might go into next year's draft

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Speaker 2: loaded exactly.

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Speaker 3: And you and Frankly your your Day two this year

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Speaker 3: would be awesome. Yeah, and you could trade next year's

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Speaker 3: third and get another Day two pick.

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Speaker 2: I mean, trade you're that high two and a first

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Speaker 2: and move go get a quarterback if you needed to.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Yeah, it just gives you so many cards in

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Speaker 3: your hand, but none of them are Jacon Latha.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to reject it. Yeah, please do the

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Speaker 2: giants and they don't pick, so they traded back. Oh

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Speaker 2: so they're picking. They were offering picks twenty three and seventy.

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Speaker 2: That's playing with fire for twenty and one nineteen. So

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Speaker 2: moving back three spots to go off.

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Speaker 3: Three people would get picked between now and thirty, but.

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Speaker 2: We'd be going up fifty spots. We'd essentially get another

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Speaker 2: third round pick out of this.

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Speaker 3: The worst case scenario Latham goes, Thomas goes, Dejene goes, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: is that would would make us cry.

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Speaker 2: Let me let me see here, let me see what

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Speaker 2: else is available before we before we so Graham Barton

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Speaker 2: also still there, Jackson powers Johnson, because we have to

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Speaker 2: have four names, Tyler Geiton, Donnie Mitchell. So, I mean

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Speaker 2: several names were on my top twenty list years as well.

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Speaker 3: But a Donnie Mitchell versus Jase Latham are not the same.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, Latham was much higher.

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Speaker 3: Much higher. Yeah, I think you're sticking pick.

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Speaker 2: And let's just see what the final trade offer is.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo offering twenty eight sixty and next year second round

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Speaker 2: draft pick for twenty and eighty four.

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm not convinced that's going to be the sixty

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Speaker 3: fourth pick in the draft either.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I think, yeah, I am going to reject

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Speaker 2: that one. The Giants one offer is fair.

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Speaker 3: What else were we getting after twenty three, twenty three

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Speaker 3: and seventy It's definitely fair.

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Speaker 2: So, I mean we're back three pick, we're picking up

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Speaker 2: one hundred and night, we're that pick from one nineteen,

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Speaker 2: so we're picking up forty nine spots. That's a lot.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what you got to give me. Even

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Speaker 3: consider it. That the reason we haven't rejected it yet.

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Speaker 3: I think we still reject.

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Speaker 2: Thank you rejected and stick and pick like.

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Speaker 3: I like the gene, But I have questions. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: have no questions with Latham.

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Speaker 2: Nope, I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have no questions with Thomas. There's just a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, J C. Latham, it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great. I mean I'd consider trading down the second round.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, we have trade down offers in the second round.

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Speaker 2: We have one trade down offer in the second round.

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Speaker 2: It's Atlanta's on the phone. At Lanta is offering seventy

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Speaker 2: four and seventy nine. Oh, that'd be fun for fifty one.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's something to consider.

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Speaker 2: Some of the guys on still available here. We've got

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Speaker 2: Trey Benson, Well, we're not interested in Tredy Benson at Dice, Isaac,

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Speaker 2: We're not interested in there. Edrian Cooper I wouldn't take

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Speaker 2: him there, Xavier Legette, I would take them there. Leonard Taylor,

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Speaker 2: Cameron Kinchins, Jalen Polk, Braylan Trice, Ben Sinnett, Chris Jenkins,

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Speaker 2: Malachi Corley, Peyton Wilson, Jonathan Brooks. Just look at the team.

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Speaker 3: So if you just both the receivers, is that what

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Speaker 3: you're thinking of?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, so Ligette, Pulk, Corley, Roman Wilson, Ricky Piersall

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Speaker 2: all available.

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Speaker 3: Five names would all be happy with. Yeah, they gotta

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Speaker 3: last like twenty picks.

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Speaker 2: Right, they get a last twenty picks. That's the key.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot. We haven't had this conversation, but I

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Speaker 3: am leaning towards Chris Jenkins being a run to the

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Speaker 3: podium in the second round. Guy. I don't think there's

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Speaker 3: many dtackles that fit all the criteria. I think his

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Speaker 3: athleticism is really really good. Even though he didn't test

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Speaker 3: like a freak list guy, he'd be a great guy,

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Speaker 3: just to kind of learn from Cam.

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Speaker 2: The pick right ahead of us was Ruc a Rojo.

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Speaker 3: Really, I like Jenkins now more than Ruke. I think

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Speaker 3: he's more physical, he's thicker, he's stronger him or Legette

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Speaker 3: or Pearsall or really any of the receivers to me

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Speaker 3: are very attractive. Do we think one of those dudes

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Speaker 2: What if we so? Jalen McMillan also still there, dvontees Walker,

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Speaker 2: Johnny Wilson, Jermaine Burton, Malik Washington. I want one of

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Speaker 2: those five? Is the key here? I know we could

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Speaker 2: always try to trade up a little bit too, hm,

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: Tht Johnny Wilson, I don't hate Malik Washington. We could

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Speaker 3: counter the offer as well if I knew Burton wasn't

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Speaker 2: Because we're only giving up one pick there. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: if we do take that, we still have we would have.

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Speaker 3: I don't mind dumping our last pick.

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Speaker 2: We would have seventy four, seventy nine, eighty four, ninety

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Speaker 2: eight one nineteen one, seventy eight, one ninety five.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of stuff, stuff in the sweet spot

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, we're gonna get a good cornerback.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get I bet we'd get a d lineman.

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Speaker 3: We'll definitely get a center.

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Speaker 2: We'll definitely get a center. We'll probably get a defensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: That's going to help.

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Speaker 3: I think that trades attractive. Like if I have to

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Speaker 3: go from Leget to Johnny Wilson, I don't love it.

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Speaker 3: But if I got a free center in the mix,

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Speaker 3: maybe I do. Right, it's a pretty attractive trade. Do

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Speaker 3: you want to counter it with? Just dump our last

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Speaker 2: And I don't know what else we could get there

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Speaker 3: A future fifth or something like that, or.

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Speaker 2: We might want to use that though. Let's say we're

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Speaker 2: because we'll keep an eye on it. We'll, okay, monitor

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Speaker 2: the receiver.

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Speaker 3: Except the trade for fun. Okay, we got our star,

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Speaker 3: we got our right tackle. Now we'll just get a lot.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to keep an eye. Okay. So it's sixty one.

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Speaker 2: A bunch of the receivers went really right after our

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Speaker 2: pick at fifty one. Uh, they came up to get

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Speaker 2: these Isaac Malachai Corley went next. Then Roman Wilson went

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Speaker 2: at fifty five, Jalen Polk went at fifty eight, Xavier

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Speaker 2: Leget went at fifty nine. So really Pierce All is

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Speaker 2: the last of those guys that fail that.

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Speaker 3: So Chris Jenkins is still available too. Yeah, you want

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Speaker 3: to make it tre offer for pearsl.

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Speaker 2: So let's let's talk to Washington. Washington's in that spot.

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Speaker 3: Can a fourth get us there? Let's see a move

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Speaker 3: with like ten spots right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when we taught after that, we went talk to Washington.

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Speaker 2: We're going to offer seventy four for sixty one. They

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Speaker 2: have sixty seven too, so they they have sixty one,

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Speaker 2: sixty seven, seventy two, seventy eight. Yeah, they made a

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Speaker 2: bunch of then they got and then they got one

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty nine. So maybe they won't be the

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Speaker 2: team that wants to come up. But the next pit

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Speaker 2: team after them is Baltimore. Yeah, and we definitely want

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Speaker 2: to get ahead of Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: Washington might win a future pick. They have so many

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. If you're getting we've got.

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Speaker 3: Some futures, how much how in depth they get.

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Speaker 2: So to go up thirteen spots.

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Speaker 3: What if we get them next year's fourth.

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Speaker 2: Let's get one of our see if they'll take one

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Speaker 2: of those fifths, because we have two fifths. We went

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Speaker 2: to the Rams fifth are our fifth next year?

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Speaker 3: That was like trade hours. Just I think that's a

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Speaker 3: cocky move.

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Speaker 2: It is cocky and one seventy eight.

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Speaker 3: I would do that for pearcel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna propose it. Trade has not been accepted.

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Speaker 3: About trading up is we have no idea if these

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Speaker 3: people you want to hear from us.

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Speaker 2: Right, well, that's that's always the problem, all right. So

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Speaker 2: that didn't get it done. So we offer seventy four,

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Speaker 2: or we could offer seventy nine and one nineteen.

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Speaker 3: I would do that.

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Speaker 2: That way, we keep seventy seventy nine one nineteen next

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Speaker 2: year's fifth, and if we're gonna go up next year's fifth,

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Speaker 2: we want their sixth.

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Speaker 3: Okay, which is early I soon.

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Speaker 2: Oops, that's just for their they'll do they don't want

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Speaker 2: to do that. Yeah, for sixty one and next year

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Speaker 2: six that has been accepted. Yes, okay, let's.

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Speaker 3: Rap your song and go from there.

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Speaker 2: And we're going to resume his draft. The Chiefs want

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Speaker 2: to offer us a pick. We're we came up down Yeah,

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Speaker 2: him up to Gum get Ricky Pearsol.

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Speaker 3: And we still have a lot of picks on day two, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we still got more stuff. The Vikings are on

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Speaker 2: the We had two trade offers here. We're going to

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Speaker 2: reject the Vikings offer here one oh eight and next

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Speaker 2: year's third and the Browns we don't deal with to Browns. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So we are up here now at seventy four. We've

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Speaker 2: got available, We've got a receiver, we've got our offensive tackle,

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Speaker 2: and Chris Jenkins is still available.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to pound the table for that one.

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Speaker 2: need priorities, Okay, have to be Massan Smith was still

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, cornerback, you're looking at DJ James, Ronardo Green, Josh Newton,

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Speaker 2: he's there. Yeah, McCormick is still there. Bordolini, Limmer, nors.

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Speaker 3: D good, So I would take Phillips.

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Speaker 2: up at ninety eight. Minnesota is offering they want ninety

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Speaker 2: next year's fourth round pick. That's not enough for me.

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Speaker 3: Moving back that in spots isn't terrible, but okay.

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Speaker 3: And doesn't have to be a center, but that would

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Speaker 2: even if we're overdrafting him a bit. So McCormick, Bordolini,

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Speaker 2: Let's take McCormick. Yeah, because we do have other guys

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Speaker 3: Away, and I guess he has a background in center.

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Speaker 3: Do We've watch our five positions. I'd consider another receiver.

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Speaker 2: Well, guess who's available. Best player on the board right

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Speaker 3: but I'm interested.

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Speaker 2: Mohammed Kamara.

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Speaker 3: I think I take Kamara.

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Speaker 3: There something stuff. Did you read some of the Kamara

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Speaker 2: And we got our pick here at one ninety five.

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Speaker 2: Top players available, Evan Williams, the safety out of Oregon.

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Speaker 3: I say safety linebackers. Seems to be a logical move here.

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Speaker 2: Tyrone Tracy, Oh, I like the player. I like the

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Speaker 3: Tyrone Tracy could follow Cordall Patterson around. Yeah and yeah

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Speaker 2: Roshretta Washington, tib Still, cornerback out of Maryland, Trey Taylor

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Speaker 3: Of Boise State. It's Taylor reds Ed Reids. I know

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Speaker 2: That would be him.

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Speaker 3: Two of them. Air Force is pumping out safety nothing

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Speaker 2: Jakawan Jackson, a wide receiver out of Tulane.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know if that's a logical move.

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Speaker 2: Vaki is there, Logan Lee is there? Cayden Wallace. You

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Speaker 3: He shouldn't still be there. I don't think he's that developmental.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, but he was hurt. He's coming off

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Speaker 3: Maybe, I don't think it's crazy still there.

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Speaker 2: In a tackle deep draft.

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Speaker 3: If you drafted him, if you draft at him and Latham,

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Speaker 3: would you consider trading Dan Moore? I with one would

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Speaker 2: I would listen.

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Speaker 3: Get he's a left tackle. You might get a fourth

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean you might be able to do.

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Speaker 3: That's something Omre has done a lot of. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: just we'll swap picks, but we're moving up one hundred spots,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially I think next year.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's something. He's a starting left tackle. He's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. Yeah, Greens, Yeah, greens of garden.

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Speaker 2: He's a tackle.

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Speaker 3: he's your swing guy for three years, I hear you.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a offensive lineman and power set.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a very right smart thing to do. Actually,

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Speaker 2: But then'll take a tackle, Cayden Wallace, it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take that. I was kind of pigeonholing that

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Speaker 2: I'll find those guys as free agents and free agents

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Speaker 3: Okay, So this was one of our favorite drafts. By

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Speaker 2: We came out of this with j C. Latham.

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Speaker 3: Nice.

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Speaker 2: We traded down and then traded back up in the

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Speaker 3: That worked out pretty well.

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Speaker 2: Took Chris Jenkins with one of those picks we picked up,

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Speaker 2: We got him at seventy four.

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Speaker 3: Okay, very happy about that.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Phillips at eighty four.

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Speaker 3: He's kind of one of our guys. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Mason McCormick at ninety eight, Okay, like that a lot.

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Speaker 2: Mohammed Kamara, it won seventy eight. That's a gift.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then Cayden Wallace at one ninety five, Yeah he can. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Andrew Phillips will as well.

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Speaker 3: I would take that draft right now.

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Speaker 2: And we got Washington six round pick next year.

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Speaker 2: We don't have a six round pick right now, so

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again it gives us a lot of leeway

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Speaker 3: with we have a lot of Day three picks next year.

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Speaker 3: We could trade them throughout the sea.

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Speaker 2: A yeah, maybe maybe you deal with that.

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Speaker 3: That and Dan Moore for four or who knows something

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Speaker 2: Gonna use it for something I'd take that draft now.

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Speaker 3: I take that draft now, I mean Latham goes a

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Speaker 3: mean Piercell to me is like my thirtieth player.

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Speaker 2: I think he got You got five guys out of

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't include Jenkins in that mix. Well, I think

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Speaker 3: spelling them and keeping cam you know, just learning. I

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Speaker 3: Phillips would play a lot. Yeah, Phillips wild play a lot.

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Speaker 2: You play a lot a lot.

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Speaker 3: It would be like your best gunner or two. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: You got some physical guys.

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Speaker 2: I would take that, would take I would take that, would.

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Speaker 3: And I don't always say that I'm.

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Speaker 2: Getting Latham at twenty is a gift, I keep saying,

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Speaker 2: And I don't get it him people ranking him lower,

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Speaker 3: Lot to do with it, and the tackles are so

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Speaker 2: Don't care how fast he is, Oh, I don't care

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Speaker 3: He isn't a run anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Is he going to be faster than Orlando Brown? Probably?

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Speaker 3: Probably? I don't care.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And Orlando Brown has made a lot of money

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, if he even turns out, if he turns

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Speaker 3: And I don't think Orlando Brown's great, you right, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You'd love him on running downs, I know that, no

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Speaker 3: No. I like how this draft fell too. I would

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly and uh well, that was our latest

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Speaker 3: Way Thursday's even gonna be better.

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Speaker 2: Warmed up, we're hitting our stride now, we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: top one hundred and fifty prospects.

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00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:11,399
Speaker 3: Wow, this.

441
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,120
Speaker 2: Is it. Okay, this is his top guys.

442
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,399
Speaker 3: So like he puts a lot of thought into this.

443
00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 3: I remember, like the year Jalen he used to be

444
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,160
Speaker 3: able to do fifty the year Jalen Hurts came out.

445
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,399
Speaker 3: He said he couldn't sleep the night before because he

446
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 3: had Hurts at like fifty one fifty two and he

447
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,719
Speaker 3: just knew that he was going to be a quality player.

448
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 3: So when he finally put his last draft in, he

449
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 3: put him in at fifty and he, you know, ended

450
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:34,400
Speaker 3: up working.

451
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 2: Out there you go, So that's true. Caleb Williams one,

452
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison two, Rome of Doonsay three, my Leak Neighbors.

453
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 3: Four, Donday three is pretty bold. Yeah, he's been on

454
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,440
Speaker 3: a Doonzay since day won.

455
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 2: He's great players, a great player. Derek May five, who

456
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 2: is four?

457
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 3: I'm sorry may Leak Neighbors.

458
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 2: May five, Jayden Daniels six, h brock Bauer seven.

459
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,959
Speaker 3: I get it. And again you're not for a specific team, right,

460
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 3: he's just generic. Yeah.

461
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,880
Speaker 2: At eight Joe Alt sure nine, Terry and Arnold. None

462
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 2: of these are all unchange. If there's a change here,

463
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 2: I'll I'll let you know. Ten to Lasi Fuaga.

464
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 3: Wow, that's pretty high. Pretty high for Arnold too, Yeah.

465
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 2: Eleven Troy Fatanu get it.

466
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing shocking so far.

467
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 2: Twelve up a spot, Quinny and Mitchell.

468
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 3: I get it. I mean, I think he's gonna be

469
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 3: really good.

470
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 2: Thirteen down a spot is Dallas Turner.

471
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 3: He worries me a little bit. There's some finesse there,

472
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 3: and yeah, you know he's not great Versa Roun.

473
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 2: Fourteen holding steady is Jared Verse.

474
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 3: And all these dns worry me a little bit.

475
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 2: Fifteen is Olu Fashanu.

476
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 3: Okay, I think I got it right. The yeah he

477
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 3: did well.

478
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 2: Sixteen is lea tou late two. So he is always

479
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 2: Those three pass rushers all pretty close.

480
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 3: I think they're kind of an eye beholder.

481
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 2: If you're a Steeler fan, you want to see those

482
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 2: three edge rushers all go in the top. Twenty I'm talking.

483
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 3: Nineteen really confident Turner will. I think Verse will a

484
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 3: lot too. Just scares me because some teams might think.

485
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 2: He's might medically flag man.

486
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah he's good though, Oh I think he's the best

487
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 3: of all.

488
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 2: Seventeen is Brian Thomas. That's holding steady.

489
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. I have a hard time pass on him.

490
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 2: At twenty Eighteen is J. C. Latham.

491
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 3: Okay, he's always been high on Latham.

492
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. Nineteen Byron Murphy. Again, if you're a Steeler fan,

493
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 2: you want to see at least one of those defensive

494
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 2: tackles go before, and they tend to get over drafted

495
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 2: a little bit.

496
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 3: I think they will. Yeah, the way that people are

497
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 3: in the league are paying the tackles, I think they'll

498
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 3: go pretty high.

499
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 2: This guy will definitely go before they're picked. Twenty is

500
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy. Yes, twenty one Chop Robinson.

501
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 3: I don't think he would be one to be great

502
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:44,880
Speaker 3: if oh if.

503
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 2: He went, yeah, I'd be happy. Twenty two up two spots.

504
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 2: Graham Barton.

505
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 3: I think he's super safe.

506
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 2: I think he's a clear double. Yeah, he'll play somewhere

507
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: on your line.

508
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 3: There's other eyes, Yeah, others. I prefer a twenty, but

509
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 3: I mean I would get There's ten different teams that

510
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 3: could take him and be like, I get it, here's

511
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 3: one of them.

512
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: Twenty three down a spot is Amarius Mims.

513
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 3: Okay, because Barton was up.

514
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

515
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

516
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: Twenty four up a spot, Cooper Degen.

517
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 3: They worked out since then and met helps.

518
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Twenty five up seven spots.

519
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 3: Johnny Newton, he also worked out since then, also went well.

520
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: Twenty six down three spots, Tyler Geiton, I get it.

521
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 2: He's easily my least favorite of the top tackles me too.

522
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 3: I mean it would be in pretty decent trade down

523
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 3: for me to be excited about that. Yeah, I get

524
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 3: me excited.

525
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 2: About twenty seven Donnie Mitchell.

526
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: I gotta take Mitchell over Geiden. Yeah, the Steelers at

527
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 3: twenty if you take one of the two twenty eight

528
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 3: up spots kool Aid McKinstry, I get it, okay, twenty

529
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 3: nine down three spots, Edgerrin Cooper. He's always been super

530
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 3: high on Cooper. Yeah, I know, it seems like most

531
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 3: people have goalson now as a top linebacker.

532
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,239
Speaker 2: At thirty up four spots, Ladd McConkie. I wonder if

533
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 2: he's hearing some first round buzz around Lad McConkie.

534
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 3: That's why, Chiefs, he's really good. Like we mentioned, I'd

535
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 3: rather have mconkie than Worthy for the Bills.

536
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: His comp on Lad McConkie, by the way, is Doug Baldwin.

537
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 2: It's a good one if you can get Doug Baldwin.

538
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 3: Yeah. Baldwin was a do it all, tough guy, you know,

539
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 3: not huge route runner.

540
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 2: Thirty one up four spots, Xavier Worthy.

541
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 3: I think I'd like him more than you. I mean, like,

542
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 3: if he got the fifty one. I'd be very happy

543
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: about it.

544
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he says as he says here, Worthy seems

545
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 2: like a taller version of Hollywood Brown.

546
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I mean skinniness i'n been is rough on me.

547
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 3: But a lot of these leaner guys, Addison Devonte Smith

548
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 3: have it's easier now to be little.

549
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 2: I think the difference there is Hollywood Brown came into

550
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 2: the NFL with some injury stuff, did he I think

551
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 2: he had a foot when he came in. Sounds right,

552
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 2: and that that's continue annually bothered him, you know, because

553
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 2: those those speed guys are like race cars. Everything's going

554
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 2: to be just right, just.

555
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 3: Right, and especially I mean he worries me to some degree,

556
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 3: but I don't think he's just a speed guy worthy

557
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: of me.

558
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Thirty two down four spots Enisrakestraw.

559
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: Really good film. Yeah, not great workouts.

560
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I think he'd be a great slot and just direction.

561
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: He's tough, physical, like I had.

562
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 3: Pencil him in a fifty one heartbeat. Oh, I don't

563
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 3: think he's gonna it there.

564
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 2: I don't think he will either. Uh. Thirty three down

565
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: four spots bo Nicks right outside the first round.

566
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 3: I don't think he'll end up in the first round.

567
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,479
Speaker 3: I could see Sean Payton loving him.

568
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 2: Thirty four down four spots, Jackson powers Johnson.

569
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 3: Okay, he's not a perfect prospect, you know.

570
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

571
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 3: I think some of us, myself included overreacting.

572
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I got excited about it.

573
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 3: Yeah.

574
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: Thirty five down two spots. Michael Pennix.

575
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 3: I like Pennis more than next. Yeah, I agree with that.

576
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thirty six down five spots Nate Wiggins.

577
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 3: He's lean, but he does things that are hard to find.

578
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: Thirty seven holding steady, Zach Frasier solid.

579
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: I think you'm play in league a long time.

580
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: Thirty eight holding steady Braden Fisk, I worry about him.

581
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: Thirty nine holding steady Darius Robinson.

582
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 3: I would take Robinson Overfist.

583
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: I think Daris Robinson ends up in the first round.

584
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 3: I do too. I don't think Fisk will.

585
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 2: I was reading. Did you read what you sent me

586
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: the uh McGinn stuff? Did you read what he said

587
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: about Darius Robinson?

588
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 3: Definitely, but I don't remember which one you're timeing on.

589
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 2: I there was a line in there from an anonymous

590
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: scout saying, when you watch Darius Robinson we watch a

591
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,479
Speaker 2: tight end trying to block Darius Robinson. It's it's like

592
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 2: you watch it and you think he could go to

593
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: jail for beating that guy up so bad.

594
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 3: It's almost like he enjoys just inflicting. I can punch

595
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: this guy one more time. I'm gonna people don't love him.

596
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: Forty Ricky Piersow.

597
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 3: That's pretty high. That's about where I have him too. Yeah,

598
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,719
Speaker 3: I really think he's inside and outside.

599
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: Forty one Peyton Wilson, Okay, forty two up a spot.

600
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: Keon Coleman. Yeah, if the Steelers came out of this

601
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 2: draft with jayc let's let's imagine that we just did

602
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: our draft that we just did there. Instead of getting

603
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 2: Pears in the second round, we got Keon Coleman.

604
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 3: To be fine with it, Yeah, I mean I think

605
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 3: that's I give him a thirty percent chance of being there. Yeah,

606
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 3: so I think you're happy with that big. He's physical.

607
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 3: My worry like he could be Laquon Treadwell and just

608
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 3: is not a separator. But I think he's more of

609
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: a slot.

610
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: I think he's a better athlete than the Quint trouble,

611
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: Like he's.

612
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 3: Their punt returner. Yeah, and he was on the Michigan

613
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 3: state basketball team. Yeah, you know, like he wasn't.

614
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 2: He can definitely play above the raid school basketball team.

615
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 2: Like Treadwell to me was kind of a monotone athlete.

616
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 3: That was a big problem. Yeah, because this guy has

617
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 3: that well, so people that don't like him call him Treadwell.

618
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, I think he's more fluid.

619
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: His jumps and everything that were good.

620
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 3: Really good. All the straight line stuff's really good too.

621
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 3: He just didn't run a good forty.

622
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, forty three up a spot, Junior Colson.

623
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 3: People seem to really rave about character and all that

624
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 3: stuff too.

625
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 2: Forty four up a spot. Malachi Corley, he could be

626
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: a bus too.

627
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not a route runner. He's we're all guilty

628
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: of this because if the draft is so fun, but

629
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: there's easy pass that some of these guys could fail,

630
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: you know, like you can't just roam bubble screens all day.

631
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons why I'm not quite sure

632
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 2: that Corley becomes a Steeler. I don't know that he

633
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: like fits your They tend to favor the route runners.

634
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he's not Emmanuel Standards or or you

635
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: know of those you know, and I don't know that

636
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 3: he fixes your receiver room. Yeah. I would love to

637
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 3: add him to the receiver yeah right, no question, But

638
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: I don't know that I could be like, oh, problem solved.

639
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you'd have to work with him a lot

640
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: on the route running stuff. He just hasn't done.

641
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 3: It, no, right, I mean, but there's a lot there

642
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: to work with.

643
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: Forty five up a spot, marshawn neland he has.

644
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: Not mentioned a legg it yet. Now with he receivers, okay.

645
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: Forty six up four spots, Max Meltinah, there's no secret

646
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: there anymore.

647
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: No, they thought we were smart too.

648
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: My sleeper first. This guy's really good.

649
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: And now he's sink my first triple take. He was

650
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: my sleeper.

651
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank he was both of our sleeper. Fortieth or

652
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: something right, Forty seven up two spots. Jordan Morgan.

653
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 3: He's not for everybody, but he's good at football.

654
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, forty eight. He was unranked before. Chris Jenkins.

655
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: I think he only did a fifty before. Yeah, he

656
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 3: only did fifty.

657
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: Forty nine was unranked earlier. Xavier Laget, I get it.

658
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 3: Some of the analytics folks don't like he had a.

659
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: Late breakout age yeah, fifty was unranked before Mike Shaneistrel.

660
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: Would you be happy with him at fifty one? I

661
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 3: mean i'd go fish. I'd like to see what else

662
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 3: was there, But if it ended up being that's the pick,

663
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: I don't think he'll miss.

664
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: No, I don't think he will either. I just think

665
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: I prefer a wide receiver with that second round.

666
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 3: Pick because that third round that's yeah, it's nice.

667
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. Fifty one Andrew Phillips. There so in our

668
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: mock draft that we just did, we ended up with

669
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: four of his top fifty one players. No wonder we

670
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: liked it so much.

671
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: Nice that worked well, Yeah, that's.

672
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: Not too bad. Fifty two Tyler Newman, fifty three Chris Braswell.

673
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: I didn't realize how badly Newbman worked out. He was

674
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: like high four sixes.

675
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, not great, but he he plays better than eight.

676
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: He plays better than that. Fifty four Blake Fisher, Okay.

677
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: Fifty five Christian Jones. Wow, he was my sleeper offensive

678
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: tackle the first time around.

679
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: Through We've been saying for months now he was too

680
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 3: low as a starting right tackle.

681
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: I don't think he's really athletic.

682
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, live experience.

683
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: Fifty six Marshawn Lloyd fifty seven, Jonathan Brooks.

684
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 3: Lloyd's been his number one back from the start. Yeah, fumbler,

685
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: but he's explosive fifty eight.

686
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:57,479
Speaker 2: Roman Wilson Okay fifty nine, Jalen Polk sixty is. Javonne

687
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 2: Bullard sixty one, Cole Bishop.

688
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: A lot of safeties and running backs in this neighborhood.

689
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: Ruke Roor Hero at sixty two.

690
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 3: Nice job on the name, you're going go to it,

691
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 3: I still avoid.

692
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: It, followed by a Massan Smith at sixty three.

693
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: Yeah like that. Yeah, Jay Looks.

694
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: Hunt at sixty four at a Houston Christian.

695
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: Really interesting. Yeah, I was watching something that he has

696
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: no clue what he's doing.

697
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: He's just just an athlete.

698
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: He's a safety from Cornell that's turned into just a

699
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 3: speedball at Houston Christian.

700
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: I'm assuming he's smart enough since he started out of

701
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: Cornell to figure everything out.

702
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 3: Smart athlete, Yeah, right, but I think he's a year away,

703
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: maybe from being a year away.

704
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: Brandon Dorius is sixty five, Dominic Pooney at sixty six.

705
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I've kind of opened up the idea that.

706
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: He might be might be a center. Roger Rosngarten at

707
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: sixty seven.

708
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: That's his neighborhood.

709
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: Tanner McLaughlin at sixty eight ran really well at the

710
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 2: is per day. Kamari Lassiter all the way down at

711
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: sixty nine.

712
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: Corners with bad forties. Yeah, yep, it doesn't nowhere around it.

713
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: Jatavian Sanders at seventy so McLaughlin ahead of Jatavian Sanders.

714
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: McLaughlan does some good things. Wasn't used much at Arizona.

715
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: Right, that's rich for McLaughlan. I appreciated Sanders might not

716
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 3: going around two.

717
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: Mohammed Kamara at seventy one, how about that? Another one

718
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: of our favorites. Chris Abrams Drain at seventy two. Like him, Yeah,

719
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: he gets his hands on the football.

720
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: He does.

721
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: Adisa Isaac at seventy three, Ben Sinnett at seventy four.

722
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 3: A lot of buzz around him too, Yeah.

723
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: Cedric Gray at seventy five, Troy Franklin at seventy six.

724
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: Pretty late for him. Yeah, he gets pushed around more

725
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: than I originally thought.

726
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: Christian Haynes at seventy seven jb late.

727
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: For him too. Yeah. I think he'll be a guard

728
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 3: in this league for a long time.

729
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: He'll play for a long time man. Jayden Hicks at

730
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: seventy eight, Dwayne Carter at seventy nine, Cooper Bebe at eighty,

731
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: Ray Davis, the running back out of Kentucky at eighty one.

732
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 3: I'm a fan of his.

733
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a good player.

734
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: He's got a crazy backstory. Oh he's not fifteen siblings.

735
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: He's rushed for a thousand yards of like four different schools.

736
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's like twenty six. He's not that old.

737
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: But Theo Johnson at eighty two out of Penn State.

738
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: Jared Wilers, he's.

739
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: Higher on this tight end class I think than most are.

740
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jared Wiley at eighty three. TJ Tampa at eighty four.

741
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: It's pretty late on TJ Tampa.

742
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he kind of reminds me of a Miller lite

743
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: version of Porter. He's not as tall, he's not as smooth.

744
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 3: He's just fast, good, but he plays a lot of

745
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: man and he's big and people don't throw at him

746
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 3: a lot.

747
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: Eighty five. Josh Newton at a TCU.

748
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: We don't think he's only a slot, right, You think

749
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 3: he can do both? Yeah, Yeah, but it'd.

750
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: Be askt of Cam Sutton to me a little bit.

751
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good call.

752
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: Eighty six, Tike Smith, Braylan Trice at eighty seven, Matt

753
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: Gonclaves at eighty eight.

754
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 3: Okay, there's more and more buzz about him.

755
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: Eighty nine is Spencer Rattler, Yeah, Blake Krham at ninety,

756
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: Trey Benson at ninety one, Will Shipley your favorite at

757
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: ninety two, devontees Walker at ninety.

758
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 3: Three, kind of a one trip pony.

759
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: Malik Washington at ninety four.

760
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 3: I'm a fan of Washing.

761
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: I thought he's a good player. Yeah, just short. Jalen

762
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: Wright at ninety five, Travan Wallace at ninety six, Dominique Hampton,

763
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: the safety out of Washington at ninety seven. I haven't

764
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: talked much about him.

765
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I don't know a ton about him.

766
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 2: Get good size. Yeah, he's like he's like six two

767
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 2: two thirteen ish in that range. Kaylen Bullock at ninety eight.

768
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 3: Pure free safety. Some will love him somewhat.

769
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: Brandon Coleman at ninety nine. Oh that's really late, yeah,

770
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: Michael Hall at one hundred, okay, Mason McCormick at one

771
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: oh one, ahead of Cedric van Brand Granger, Okay.

772
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 3: I was just say I thought he would be higher

773
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 3: but that's still pretty good for mid round seven.

774
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: You got some other guys. We won't go through all

775
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 2: of them. At Jarvis Brown at one o three. He's

776
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: a good he could be a seer, he could be slot.

777
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

778
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: Jaylen McMillan all the way down at one o four

779
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 2: out of Washington, a little bit small. Yeah, and you're

780
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: a third receiver onner team, you know, ne and my

781
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: approach it at one oh six out of Auburn to

782
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: cornerback Hunter nor Is at at one o nine, the

783
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: center of the Penn State.

784
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 3: You mentioned four centers and like from ninety eight to

785
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 3: one that sweet spot. Yeah.

786
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: DJ James the cornerback out of Auburn at one ten,

787
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: which she was a little heavier. The Cameron Richardson at

788
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 2: of Mississippi State, the cornerback at one eleven.

789
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: He's getting more and more talk about.

790
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ola for Shioh out of Washington at one twelve,

791
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 2: that's pretty high on him.

792
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: It is good tester, great character, old like a lot.

793
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: Of these guys are the and Andre Sweat all the

794
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: way down at one fourteen.

795
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 3: I don't think he's going on day two. No.

796
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Trotter down at one fifteen.

797
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 3: He's either going to be a solid player or he's

798
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 3: going to be Day one starter that someone drafts passed

799
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 3: on the next year because he is not athletic.

800
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: Yep. Uh. Jay Von Solomon, the head rusher out of

801
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 2: Troy Yeah, one seventeen.

802
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh did you?

803
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: Patrick Paul at one twenty followed by Kingsley Sue Mattia

804
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: one twenty one. How about that? Does it say?

805
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 3: Huh? I mean he's very raw. He's one of the

806
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 3: youngest guys in this class.

807
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: But he's got He's got a lot of a lot

808
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: of athletic trades.

809
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 3: That's really low for him. I get it on.

810
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: Paul Tip Raymond at one twenty five.

811
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 3: Mid round tight ends that are athletes often hit and

812
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 3: hit big. Yeah.

813
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 2: Brendan Rice at one twenty six.

814
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 3: I think he's fine, followed.

815
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: By Jacob Cowing, followed by Javon Baker, followed by Luke McCaffrey.

816
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 3: M okay, it's not a bad spot to fish though.

817
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 2: No. Uh you got Elijah Jones at one thirty solid.

818
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 2: He's a little older though, Yeah, he's right.

819
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: He would fit the build up.

820
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 2: Dadrian Taylor Demerson at one thirty two.

821
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: I have warmed up he's a good player. I wanted

822
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 3: to put him in my top five safeties and he

823
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: was my just miss.

824
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 2: As is number one thirty three. Malik Mustafa, Yeah he's fun. Yeah. Uh.

825
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: Christian Boyd at one thirty four.

826
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 3: Okay, that's credit he deserves.

827
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: Followed by Gabe Hall, followed by McKinley Jackson, Kay, interesting,

828
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: got some pockets here, Xavier Thomas at one thirty seven,

829
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 2: Tanner Bordolini at one thirty nine.

830
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: This is a bad area overall in terms of quality.

831
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 2: He's got Trey Taylor at one forty really the safety

832
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 2: out of Air Force. Jamari Thrashed, a wide receiver out

833
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 2: of Louisville at one forty three. We haven't talked a

834
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: lot about him, no, I.

835
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: Mean, he wouldn't be a bad and if they already

836
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 3: had a corner or already had a receiver. Yeah, I

837
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 3: think he's probably a three in the league.

838
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know Adam to the next Yeah yeah. MJ.

839
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: Devonshire at a pit at one forty four, he's a slot.

840
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: You got Jordan McGee, the fast linker at a Temple

841
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 2: one forty five.

842
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. That warmed up to him too. He's gonna be

843
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: awesome on teams.

844
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: Gabriel Murphy at one forty six, the other edge rusher

845
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: out of UCLA.

846
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 3: And no one ever talks about he's a quality player.

847
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: Good player. Jerry and Jones out of Florida State cornerback.

848
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 2: He's at one forty seven, followed by Jalen Simpson, followed

849
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: by Sioni Vaki, and his number one fifty player is

850
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: Jermaine Burton, the wide receiver out of Alabama.

851
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 3: I'm sure he won the name in there, but there

852
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 3: are not.

853
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: Sold on the player, so somebody will take this guy

854
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: is questionable.

855
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, which means that all that stuff's probably real. Yeah yeah,

856
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 3: so really talented.

857
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: Yep, shouldn't be at one fifty talent wise.

858
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 3: But he should be at fifty. Yeah, but AT's see

859
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 3: what you deal with it. Man.

860
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: He pushed down a little bit.

861
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, quite a bit.

862
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: That was Daniel Jeremiah's top one fifty. Some interesting names

863
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: are some different names in terms of the rankings.

864
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again these are just him generically ranking guys,

865
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 3: not really what he's hearing. He always says he ranks

866
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 3: with his eyes. He mocks with his ears. Yeah, you

867
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 3: know what I mean what people were telling him. So

868
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 3: there's how much he likes the players.

869
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll come up with his mock draft for

870
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: his final mock drafte the next couple of days. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely,

871
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.

872
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,120
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873
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,799
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874
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,120
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875
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876
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,759
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Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Wally and this

885
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Speaker 2: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And well, one

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00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: of those Steeler jerseys will be changing here. The Broncos

887
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: have signed h Levi Wallace to a one year contract.

888
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: He's an NFL player, he's just yeah.

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00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: I knew it was a team. I don't know that

890
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: he'll be the I think his days of starting are

891
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 3: probably done and maybe he's a third.

892
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: Guy or you know, so they got they got Patrick

893
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 2: certain Yeah, they drafted Briley Moss last year in the

894
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 2: third round out of Iowa.

895
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Speaker 3: It's a good spot for him to get playing.

896
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: Still have the Mury mathis yeah, I mean he'll he'll

897
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: probably get some playing time.

898
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 3: Anybody like that. They so many directions.

899
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they don't have to do that now by

900
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Speaker 2: signing le placeholder.

901
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know he's okay, yeah.

902
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so good for him.

903
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 3: No, it's a good spot for him to get a

904
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Speaker 3: lot of basertained on the other side, and.

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Speaker 2: I would think so. And he's got good hands, He'll

906
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: get some interceptions, those kind of things.

907
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: So hopefully Form put some numbers up and gets a

908
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 3: big contract next year better contract.

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Speaker 2: News came out today that Bengals defensive end Sam Hubbard

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Speaker 2: had a very serious ankle injury that caused him miss

911
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: last couple of games of the season last year, and

912
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Speaker 2: he had pretty serious what you want to a complete

913
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Speaker 2: deltoid reconstruction in his ankle and tightrope procedure to repair

914
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Speaker 2: the ankle.

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00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a big blow.

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00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 2: That's a big blow for them that.

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Speaker 3: They did draft Miles Murphy in the first round. They

918
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 3: did so so as a rookie, but they didn't have

919
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Speaker 3: this in mind when they did. Obviously, Hendrickson's on the

920
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Speaker 3: other side, but he's not young. Hubbard plays a lot

921
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Speaker 3: of snaps for them and is a pretty foundational player. Yeah,

922
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Speaker 3: that sounds like unlikely to be ready for Week one.

923
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Speaker 2: So they went in at the end of the season.

924
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 2: A fluoroscopy revealed that it wasn't just a routine ankle sprain.

925
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 2: There was a lot of instability there and they had

926
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Speaker 2: to go in and basically reconstruct the ankle a little bit.

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Speaker 3: You hate to hear it, but it definitely weakens a

928
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: division rival without a doubt. I wonder if maybe they

929
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 3: would want a Darius Robinson they was like those big ends. Yeah,

930
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 3: I mean they now have a d line double need

931
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Speaker 3: to some degree.

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Speaker 2: To some degree, yeah, because you can't count on him

933
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Speaker 2: being back at one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: I would think not. They still have a SI who's

935
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Speaker 3: been okay, Yeah, and Murphy has to step.

936
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Speaker 2: Up their defense is a problem though it is.

937
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 3: It was really bad last year. I mean really, there

938
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Speaker 3: really wasn't enough excuses. I mean everyone's oh Burrows out,

939
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Speaker 3: that's what Bengles aren't themselves like. Yeah, but the defense

940
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 3: is horrendous.

941
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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, they have a place reader. So John Lynch

942
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: came out today and said that the forty nine Ers

943
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Speaker 2: are having good talks with wide receiver Brandon Ayuk and

944
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: they want him to be a forty nine Er for

945
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Speaker 2: his entire career.

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Speaker 3: I don't blame him. I mean, I know Steeler fans

947
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: are on the edge of your seat on this, and

948
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 3: I get it.

949
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: I don't see it happening.

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Speaker 3: I don't either. I mean, if you look at it

951
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: through Ayuk's lens and the niners lens, I think he

952
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 3: plays all these Instagram games and all this stuff.

953
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: Because that's just what you do.

954
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 3: That's what you do. That's how you drive up your contract,

955
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, and make them get to the

956
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 3: table and extend you. And if I'm them, I would

957
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 3: much rather live with Ayuk and then franchise them and

958
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Speaker 3: trade Deebo a year from now. Yeah, I mean, I

959
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 3: don't the debos long for this league, and I want

960
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: to win Super Bowl. I don't want to lose either

961
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 3: one of those guys this year, and they'll both be

962
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,479
Speaker 3: Niners and their offense will be great, and Debo won't

963
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 3: be back after the year, and Ayuk will.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the way Deebo plays, his style of play doesn't

965
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Speaker 2: lend itself to a lengthy career. They're paying him a lot.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know what he would get on

967
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 2: the open market in terms of Debo. I don't know,

968
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: because of the style that he plays a lot.

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00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you'd get more than Ridley.

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00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 2: Trade though.

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Speaker 3: Oh I thought he meant like as a free agent,

972
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 3: like if.

973
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Speaker 2: You were if you were trading for I'd be cautious.

974
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Speaker 2: I'd be cautious. I don't know if you're gonna get

975
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: a two though, for what he's making.

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Speaker 3: I know he's expensive, I mean compared to Ayuk. He's

977
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Speaker 3: a little older, it's a lot of wear and tear.

978
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 3: Has unique skill missus games every year, does every year.

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Speaker 3: I would not use him as a running back mine. No,

980
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 3: it gets twenty carries a year, not sixty. Yeah, I

981
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 3: don't know. He may be out of sight, out of

982
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 3: mine in two years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not a guy he's I would I wouldn't

984
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: be interested in trading for him.

985
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 3: I just would if you're OK, if you're talking.

986
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 2: Because the wear and tear and the price tag.

987
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: And if I'm the Niners, I'd rather invest in Auk. Yeah, man,

988
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: I think that's a smart move.

989
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: There's more a better player.

990
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 3: He's a better player, he's younger, more traditional.

991
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 2: He's an actual wide receiver.

992
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

993
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that I and nothing that he goes great? I

994
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: love debo.

995
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he may be on my fantasy team match. I

996
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 3: think he's great, but I would invest in Ayuk. It's

997
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 3: a smarter move.

998
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: Did you see that over the weekend? Roman Gabriel died.

999
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: I know it's a little before your time. You don't

1000
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: like those those older guys.

1001
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 3: But he's a legend.

1002
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: Talking about a guy that was a former NFL MVP.

1003
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: He was the first Filipino American quarterback in the NFL.

1004
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 3: Wow. I don't think he's brought up enough in that regard.

1005
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: He's a really good football player back in the sixties

1006
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: and early seventies.

1007
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 3: Is he into his eighties when he passed.

1008
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: Eighty three, he had pretty Yeah, Roman Gabriel gone at.

1009
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 3: Eighty three, Yeah, that's an NFL legend. Yeah.

1010
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely. And finally, Matt Ryan is officially retired as a Falcon.

1011
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 3: As a Falcon's cool, really really good career. To me,

1012
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: he's like the fringe Hall of Fame guy. Yeah, Like,

1013
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: do you think he gets in. He's a bit of

1014
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 3: an accumulator. He did win an MVP.

1015
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: I think eventually he does. He took an eight team

1016
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: to a Super Bowl.

1017
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 3: I think he was consistently a top six or seven,

1018
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 3: maybe five quarterback in the league.

1019
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: Number one, he's top ten in both yards passing and

1020
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 2: touchdown passes, like seventh to ninth. That he'll get passed

1021
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: on those yas eventually, but.

1022
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 3: Five years that'll be yeah, twelfth and fifteenth or whatever.

1023
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 2: And I think you're looking at him in the same light.

1024
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: And like I would put Eli Manning ahead of him.

1025
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 3: I was gonna bring up Eli and Stafford.

1026
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: Because Eli won a couple of Super Bowls. I'm Stafford

1027
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: won one.

1028
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 3: I think Stafford is the best player of the three. Yeah,

1029
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 3: Eli might have the best resume of the three. Bryan's

1030
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 3: probably my third choice in terms of if I wasn't

1031
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 3: a voter and they said you had to rank these

1032
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 3: three to get in, Ryan would be third.

1033
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think he eventually, there's got he'll have

1034
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: twenty years to get in, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I

1035
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: think eventually he does.

1036
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: I don't think he gets in a five year Wait, you.

1037
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 2: Got away five five years, so five years from really

1038
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: from the last time he played, So really it's four years.

1039
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: So he's not getting in as a timer. He's not

1040
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: going to get in before.

1041
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 3: He could be a finalist early, but I don't think

1042
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 3: he'll be.

1043
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not getting in before Brady and Ben.

1044
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 3: No, but they'll be different class. They'll be already in.

1045
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 2: No, they would be the same first time class because

1046
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: he hasn't eaten play last year.

1047
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: Ben hasn't played in two years. Right, did Brady and

1048
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 3: Ben go?

1049
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: They went the same year? Yeah, and at the same time.

1050
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 3: I think you're right about that. Yeah, I'm not sure.

1051
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 2: Well, you're right. So it has been two years since

1052
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: Brady and Ben both plays?

1053
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: Going to be up in three? Yeah, Brady won the

1054
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, played one more and then hung it up. Okay,

1055
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 3: I can't remember how long ago that was because they

1056
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 3: had Mayfield this past year. Right, was Brady their quarterback

1057
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 3: year before that?

1058
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: I guess he was.

1059
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 3: I think so, Yeah, so he's one year different than Ben.

1060
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: Ben's help Ben. Yeah, I mean it's only Ben's not

1061
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 3: going to get in, but it's nice not competing with

1062
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 3: Brady for that year. Interesting.

1063
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll see. That'll all be fun to talk

1064
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: about here in the next few years for sure.

1065
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 3: I think Matt Ryan's borderline though, that's going to do

1066
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 3: it for the show today, Matt good one.

1067
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, having a lot of fun here we go.

1068
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: Oh more, before the draft. We'll also do the Draft

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00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: show on Wednesday night with Mike Persuda. You can hear

1070
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 2: that on the on the WDVE airwaves. We'll preview the

1071
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 2: draft a little bit more. But for my partner Matt Williamson,

1072
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 2: for Justin Miller here on site keeping us on the air,

1073
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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly. We appreciate you listening to this edition

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Speaker 2: of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.