1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Am I the a hole for telling my brother he's 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: an idiot for wanting a paternity test? 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: Hmmm? 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Did you think it was just he's an idiot? Is 5 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: that where you thought that was good? 6 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: As submitted by Dophia sonor no relation? 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, so throwaway eighty three sixty two fifty 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: two says I twenty male, have a brother called Jack 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: twenty nine male, who is married to his wife, Amy, 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: twenty six female. About two years ago they had their 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: first child, Lisa. On our side of the family, we 12 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: all look extremely alike. Both of our parents have brown 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: hair and brown eyes, so to me and Jack. Amy 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: on the other side is from Norway and looks very different. 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: She has blonde hair and blue eyes and generally has 16 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: a very skin an Amy and look to her opposed 17 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: to our very American look. What is an American look? 18 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. America is so diverse America. 19 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: I don't think you can have a general American look. 20 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: Say I look maybe like kind of sweetish or whatever. 21 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 3: You literally said you look native American. I never said that, 22 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: as you said you had. 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: I have Native American heritage. John is very small, very small, 24 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: to be clear, to be crystal clear, I should I 25 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 2: should bring a picture of my. 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 3: Grand my grandparents and great grandparents. So and which American? Uh, 27 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: my great. 28 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: Grandparents, great great Okay, so it's not that far off. 29 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: No, I mean it's pretty the percentage pretty small. Yeah, 30 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 2: it's pretty small. 31 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: Anyway, Yeah, you are the most. I was gonna say. 32 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: The only way that they have a very American look 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: is if they're a native American. That's the only way 34 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: you could have. 35 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 3: Why, which is why it is me. 36 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: Anyway, So to what I thought was no one's surprised. 37 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: Of course, Lisa got features from her mom. They look 38 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: pretty much identical, and it seems like they look more 39 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: like as time passes on. This was all fine from 40 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: my understanding. I don't know why it would even be 41 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: a problem. But about one year ago my brother started 42 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: telling me about how is coworker has a daughter that 43 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: looks like the female version of him? Hmmm, a coworker 44 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: has a daughter. 45 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: They were working grind in late night something else. 46 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: He said that everyone said that the firstborn, especially if 47 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: it's a daughter, is the spitting image of their father. 48 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: I didn't find it that weird as I heard that before, 49 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: but I think it's kind of obvious that genetics work 50 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: weird and in different ways, and what is common is 51 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: not always what happens to everyone. I told him just 52 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: that that genetics works in surprising ways sometimes. However, as 53 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: time went on, he started saying more stuff like that, 54 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: like asking me where I thought Lisa got her blonde 55 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: hair from, which obviously was from Amy. He did this 56 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: with other stuff like the nose, the eyes, the little 57 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: mannerisms Lisa has. It was extremely obvious it was from Amy, 58 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: which I always told him. Now I have found out 59 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: that he is demanding that they take a perturnest as 60 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: he's extremely sure that Lisa is not his. Amy is 61 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: extremely disdropped by this and has tried to explain to 62 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: him that Lisa is his, that she got stuff from Amy, 63 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: and that happens. He's threatening her with divorce if she 64 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: doesn't agree to do a paternity test, as that would 65 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: be his confirmation on that she cheated. She got to 66 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: our parents' house and broke down telling us all this. 67 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: Our parents have texted him and called him. I have 68 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: two but he's now angry with us too because we're 69 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: taking a cheater's side his words. She and Lisa are 70 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: staying with us and she's extremely confused where all this 71 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: is coming from. 72 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: I think this is like the classic case of if 73 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: you think someone cheated, be sure, yeah, because when you 74 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: make that accusation, it will it may not be it 75 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: might not be all deal breaker deal breaker, but it 76 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: will damage the relationship in some way. 77 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: And he's just making baseless accusations and like. 78 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: It's it's cheating. Plus you lied to me to like 79 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: trick me into like fathering the kid. 80 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: That to me is like, yeah, if you're gonna accuse someone, yeah, 81 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 3: you better be damn sure, damn sure. That's a bomb 82 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: to drop. 83 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: I called my brother and yesterday and today and this 84 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: time he picked up the phone. I managed to have 85 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: a conversation with him and asked him why if he 86 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: had any evidence that Amy ever did cheat, or why 87 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: he thought so. He basically told me that he didn't 88 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: have any evidence, but he knew and it was one 89 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: hundred percent sure one he had a gut feeling that 90 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: she was cheating on him. 91 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: Carmel says, projecting much that's our most. 92 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: Name yep, yeah, so that's our moms. 93 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, are you my mom? 94 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: You can't have that, you can't have that? 95 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? Or is it is it our mom? Are your mom? 96 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: No, that doesn't look like our mom. He told me 97 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: that first born daughters always behave look and are carbon 98 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: copies of their fathers. That's not true, but Lisa is 99 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: not even remotely like that. He said that if it 100 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: isn't like that, then Lisa would at least have some 101 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 1: features from him, which she don't. I don't think that's true. 102 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: I'm the second born daughter, and I'm a carbon copy 103 00:04:59,160 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: of my father. 104 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 3: That's true. And I am the first born son. 105 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: Oh well, no, I guess I'm the firstborn daughter, but 106 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm the second born child. I was getting angry at 107 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: him because it just seems so weird to even come 108 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: to that conclusion. I told him that he was an 109 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: idiot for all of this, and that he will regret 110 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: all of this. Later he hung up and is even 111 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: madder at all of us, saying that Amy has manipulated 112 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: us all and that we can't crawl back to him 113 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: when the truth is out. 114 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 3: He's very short. Oh, he's so, She's extremely short. 115 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: This man is a never been sure about anything true. 116 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: I have not told Amy that this is the reason 117 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: or that I have talked to him, because I don't 118 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: think she'll react that well to hearing this. However, my 119 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: parents are saying that it was extremely unnecessary of me 120 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: to behave like that when I got the chance to 121 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: talk to him, as this may have been our chance 122 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: to have a mature and serious conversation with him. So 123 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: am I the a hole for how I reacted? And 124 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: there is an edit in an update and an updates. 125 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: In terms of is the a hole? 126 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 127 00:05:58,640 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 3: I don't. 128 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: No, his brother is an idiot. 129 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 3: I mean like his brother in Ahl. 130 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's obvious. 131 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 3: Who does he think that kid looks like? Again? 132 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: His wife? 133 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: His wait, he thinks. 134 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: He thinks the kid looks too much like his wife. 135 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: Unacceptable, that's what he's saying. And he's like, it should 136 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: look more like me. 137 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's like, yeah, it doesn't look like me. 138 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: Means that she's cheating. 139 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 3: That is even crazy. Yeah, if like the kid looked 140 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: slightly like someone else, yeah, right, like cause for alarm. Yeah, 141 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 3: but it looks like his partner. 142 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: It just looks like his partner. 143 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 144 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: She's just got strong genes. 145 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 146 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: I have seen a few comments about this, and I 147 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: thought I would try my best answer. But since I'm 148 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: just hearing about this from Amy, and I was not 149 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: there during the whole ordeal. I don't have one hundred 150 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: percent off the answers, oh, one hundred percent of the answers, 151 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: and they're basically just what she has told me. He 152 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: sat her down, the brother told her that he was 153 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: going to be honest with her. Then he said that 154 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: he did not think Lisa was his, that he basically 155 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: knew she cheated on him, and that he would do 156 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: any test. He didn't go behind her back and do it. 157 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: Why I can't answer. Then they had a fight, and 158 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: I don't know who left first. I don't know exactly 159 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: what was said. All I know is that my brother 160 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: is at a friend of his and Amy came here. 161 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: Amy is not upright refusing the test either, but when 162 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: he brought it up, she was extremely hurt by hymn 163 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: insinuating that she would cheat on him. She's been with 164 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: my brother for seven years. They had a seemingly great 165 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: relationship up until this. She's mostly hurt by the accusations 166 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: and that her relationship is most likely never going to 167 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: be the same. She told me that the last couple 168 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: of years now just feel like a lie. That he 169 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: for the most part thought she was cheating. Edit two, 170 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: the test will happen. I will update in the meantime 171 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: if anything happens that is worth updating for. If not, 172 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: I will try my best to just update with the 173 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: results when they're done and there are some relevant comments, 174 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: and then an update. 175 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. I mean he just sounds like a total 176 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: ass hat absolutely without it out. 177 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's gonna feel so stupid if they do 178 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: get it, because it seems like they are getting the 179 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: paternity test. 180 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, once he once he gets the pattornity test, 181 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: and it's oh dude, all right. Conspiracy theory, conspiracy theory. 182 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: I think when he when he gets the pattornity. 183 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: Test, he's going to be like, you were still cheating that. 184 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. When he gets the attorneity test, uh, and it 185 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 3: says that it was his, I think he's going to 186 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: reveal that he was cheating. It was a test because 187 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: they had to makes you because you Yeah. 188 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: I think my conspiracy theory is that he's going to 189 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: get it back and he's going to be like, well, 190 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: that still doesn't prove that you weren't cheating on me. 191 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: I think he's going to. 192 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 3: Get a double down. 193 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 2: He's just he's just like so far into his own insanity. 194 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: He can't he can't even back down. 195 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: He can't even see the lights. 196 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, wow, But let's get back to reality. 197 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: One commoner says, does your brother have any mental illness 198 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: because that seems like a huge mental leap and his 199 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: reaction seems very out of touch with reality. When the 200 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: test is done and it shows she is his daughter, 201 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: you better believe his wife will file forward to. 202 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: Var Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, or she should she shouldn't. 203 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: Opie says, I knew that he was diagnosed with anxiety 204 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: disorder in his early teens, but he apparently got better 205 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: when he was about twenty. I didn't know about it 206 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: or really have any recollection of it since I was 207 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: very young during the time and they kept it away 208 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: from me. But apparently it was really bad anxiety. It 209 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: doesn't seem too far off to assume it could relate 210 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: to what is happening now. 211 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that might have. 212 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: Another commenter says, why didn't he just do the test himself? 213 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: Why does his wife have to be the one to 214 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: test their kid? He need to submit his DNA anyway, 215 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: Opie says he told Amy he would do a paternity test, 216 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: as he believed she cheated and that Lisa was not his. 217 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: He said that he would do it, but he wanted 218 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: to be truthful to her. I don't really know how 219 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: everything went, but they have not seen each other since 220 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: the fight, and there is an update. Hi everybody who 221 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: will read this update. I'm sorry for the wait, but 222 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: I hope I can answer it all. First things first, 223 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: the paternity test was done and the results got back. 224 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: Lisa is my brother's, no doubt there. 225 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: Okay, for a shocker, My brain twitched and I thought 226 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: it was like it's not his child. 227 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 3: It's like it is mine exactly. Everything's good. We think 228 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: he's going to react double down. 229 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: I think he's going to double doe. So some of 230 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: you thought that my brother was cheating on Amy, and 231 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: from what we all have gathered, he is not cheating 232 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: on her. Now to what drove him to this point, 233 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: we think we know. I mentioned in a comment that 234 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: my brother had anxiety when he was younger. Now I 235 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: know that anxiety was more severe than I ever thought. 236 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: It is most likely what happened. Again, his anxiety has 237 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: mainly been pointed towards other people he doesn't trust that 238 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: they want what was best for him. One example they 239 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: told me was that he apparently refused to sit beside 240 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: someone in classrooms because he thought they would take their 241 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: pens and stab him. 242 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's pretty pretty severe. 243 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: This is just one example. He also believed that people 244 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: were inspiring against him, especially close friends. What is that 245 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: because that's like paranoia, that is yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 246 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: that sounds a little bit more intense than just generalized exacty. 247 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 3: It definitely, yeah, is more intense. I mean, have you 248 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 3: ever seen a beautiful mind? No with Yeah, that's what happens. 249 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that does sound I mean, obviously we're not doctors, 250 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: but that does sound like you know. 251 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: Where we are doctors. We are doctors, and this is advice. 252 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 3: This is not advice. This is not medical advice. 253 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: Especially because if he's thinking that people are consiring against him, 254 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: that makes sense why he would, yeah, you know, be 255 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: like based off nothing would. So what happened was that 256 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: one of his coworkers had brought their daughter to the 257 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: office one day, and everyone talked about how his daughter 258 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: looked like him if he was a girl and thirty 259 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: years younger. After this, they apparently started talking about genetics 260 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: in the lunch room for some time, like almost every 261 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: dad showed pictures of their daughters who looked just like them. 262 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: All moms showed pictures of their sons who just who 263 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: looked just like them. I feel like that is our 264 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: case for us. What I think I look more like 265 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: we somehow look a lot like each other. But I 266 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: also look more like my dad, and you look more 267 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: like mom. 268 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: I think we look like a combination. I don't know. 269 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: I know, I think we look like a combination. But 270 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: I think I look more like dad and. 271 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 3: You look more like I think we look the exact same. 272 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but also. 273 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 3: If we look the exact same, could we look more 274 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: like one parent? 275 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: I don't knowetics, it doesn't. Of course, this was not 276 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: the case for everyone, but for many. This apparently sparked 277 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: something in my brother. He started obsessing over genetics, and 278 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: what confirmed his thoughts was that brown eyes and hair 279 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: should outweigh blue eyes and blonde hair. That's not true. 280 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 3: Uh. 281 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: He fed into these thoughts and obsessed over them for 282 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: almost a year. He became what's his name, Mendel, the 283 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: guy who did the peas. 284 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the guy who did Mendel. He did the peas, 285 00:12:55,360 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 3: He did the like a A B A B boy. 286 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: So let's get back, let's get into it, into it. 287 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Also for why he just didn't do the paternity test, 288 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: he wanted to show Amy how easy it was to 289 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: not keep secrets. He thought if he was honest about 290 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: knowing about her being unfaithful and being honest about wanting 291 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: a paternity test, it would be easier for her to 292 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: come clean. It was also so that he could walk 293 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: out of it knowing he did everything one hundred percent 294 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: right while she did not. 295 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 2: Yikes, one hundred percent right, you did it one hundred 296 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: percent wrong. 297 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: Amy doesn't want a divorce right now at least. Oh oh, 298 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: that's good, well for him, not for her maybe, and 299 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: my brother should be extremely thankful for that. They're going 300 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: to go to couple's therapy and individual therapy, Amy for 301 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: things unrelated and Jack for well all of this and 302 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: his issues with anxiety. They're going to live separate for 303 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: a while, but they're very insistent on making this work. 304 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: Jack is not completely fine. While we do want to 305 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: trust him, we think that the answers from the paternity 306 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: test is just breaking things down for him. We have 307 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: tried to get him into therapy as quickly as possible, 308 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: but we couldn't find any available appointments until next week, 309 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: which is still quicker than expected. He's still very sorry 310 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: for all of this. He had a very emotional reaction 311 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: to seeing the test, and he kept telling Lisa that, 312 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: you know, Daddy loves his little girl when he was here. 313 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: If there's still are questions you want to answer, I 314 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: will try to answer them as best as I can. 315 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: There isn't edit and one relevant comment edit. I talked 316 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: with my parents about it this week because to be 317 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: it sounded like something more severe, oh worse than just 318 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: anxiety from what I've read. 319 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, that's what we thought. 320 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: But they told me that it was just anxiety, that 321 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: it portrays different in different people, and that he just 322 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: happens to be one of those affected by it. 323 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 3: More. 324 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: I have never suffered from anxiety, so I kind of 325 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: just took their word for it. If it is something 326 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: more severe, I want him to get the help that 327 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: he deserves. I will talk to Amy about this, because 328 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: she also just questioned if it is just anxiety. Relevant 329 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: comments commenter, I really hope you can get your brother 330 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: into neuropsychological testing for a confirmed diagnosis. That doesn't sound 331 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: like annxiety. It sounds like it's a different diagnosis with 332 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: anxiety as a symptom. I agree that can be dangerous 333 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: to others and possibly more so to your brother depending 334 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: on his guilt and depression levels. Please get him help. Oh, 335 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: he says, I thought about that. I asked my parents 336 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: if it was possible it can be something worse than anxiety, 337 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: but they have been very insistent on that is just 338 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: a severe case of anxiety. I have never experienced at myself, 339 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: but from what I've read, what he experiences sounds a 340 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: lot more complex than anxiety. 341 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: And that's the end of Jessica Bell says, it's not anxiety, 342 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: it's paranoid delusion. 343 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 344 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that sounds a lot more accurate, a 345 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: lot more accurate. 346 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: It does. 347 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this person just needs help at this point. 348 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: Is clearly affecting their life. 349 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 3: Yes, and there maybe that's why the wife is deciding 350 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 3: not to divorce him, because she's like, actually have. 351 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah a problem that we should work on. 352 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. Cosmosis says he was totally diagnosed, poor dude. Yeah, 353 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's what it sounds like. Yes, mental 354 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 3: illness is not an excuse to be a deck but 355 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 3: I think like this is a situation where I mean, 356 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 3: maybe it's an excuse, Well what point? What point do 357 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 3: you lose control? 358 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 2: If you're having a literal like delusion or people have 359 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: what what is it when you see. 360 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: When you see things? What host nations hallucinations? 361 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: Right, that's a case where it's like it's low key 362 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: out of their control. And I wonder if op had 363 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: the correct medication and other. 364 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: Like, when would they be able to get in their 365 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: control proper diagnosed. 366 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: If they have the proper diagnosis and everything to care 367 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: for it would that have happened? 368 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 3: This is an episode from Deep within the Archives time 369 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 3: for okop Relash. I'm trying to throw my niece in 370 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 3: jail from messing up my coat? Am I the a hole? 371 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: I mean it is a coat, but I guess you 372 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 3: would be a nice coat. You know, it might be 373 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 3: a fancy coat, might be like, you know, want to 374 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: like a chinchilla coat. I mean, may have one hundred chinchillas. 375 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: If you get my chinchilla coat dirty, I kind of 376 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: have to shoot you in the face, oh yeah, oh yeah, 377 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: with I have to go up to a police officer, 378 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: pull out their gun and then shoot you and then host. 379 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 3: The gun aside like a movie. Yeah, and she's a 380 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 3: police officer after yeah, just for goodness, Yeah yeah. I 381 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 3: twenty eight female. I have a nie, sixteen female. She 382 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: is my only sister's only child. I like that double. 383 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 3: Only two years ago I married a very wealthy man 384 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 3: thirty four mal good on to you, heye, poppy, And 385 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 3: because of the pandemic. Last Christmas was my first with 386 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 3: my in laws. My mother in law gifted me a 387 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 3: coat that is worth more than twenty thousand dollars. I 388 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 3: am shocked. 389 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: It's that cheap, dude, twenty thousand. That's insaneity. That's an 390 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 2: insanely expensive coat. 391 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 3: I saw her wearing it, asked her where she bought it, 392 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: and she says it will be my Christmas gift from her. 393 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 3: You know, I guess it's like a nice Christmas gift 394 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 3: or whatever, but it's like kind of like hand me downs. 395 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 3: Oh oh oh. So she was wearing the coat and 396 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 3: then she's like, I'm going to give it to you. 397 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: I mean it is a twenty thousand dollars coupon. 398 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: If someone was like, hey, John, I'm going to give 399 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: you my Tesla for Christmas, I'm like. 400 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, I didn't know how much it was. I 401 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: knew it was expensive, but I thought maybe it's like 402 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 3: three thousand at most. Yes, yes, twenty thousand for cot 403 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 3: is insane. Absolutely. I was visiting my sister last January 404 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 3: when my niece saw it. She googled the brand and 405 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 3: showed me how much it really was. I won't lie. 406 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: I didn't wear it after that because I was afraid 407 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 3: of ruining it. Of course, last week I wore it 408 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 3: while visiting my sister. While I was putting it back 409 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: on to leave, I felt something go splat on my back. No, 410 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 3: then my niece started cackling and the smell of paint 411 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 3: hit me. Stop it. You know, it's kind of like, 412 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 3: you know, how like hippies would throw red paint at 413 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 3: people with fur coats? Right, yeah, she probably did something 414 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 3: like that. Interesting. I was so pissed off. While she 415 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 3: was not apologetic at all, her mom screamed at her 416 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 3: and said she was grounded. Then she said she will 417 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 3: pay for the dry cleaning. While I was in my car, 418 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 3: still shocked by the way, I got an alert that 419 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: my niece hosted a reel. It was of her doing 420 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: a prank on me, and she said I'm going to 421 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: hit my aunt's twenty thousand dollars coat with a paint 422 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: filled balloons. 423 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 2: Oh my god, now that's content. 424 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 3: I saved it on my phone, sent it to her 425 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 3: mom and told her that a week's grounding is not enough. 426 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 3: She did not reply, but I saw that my niece 427 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 3: took it down. It got less than five years by then. 428 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 3: The next day I found out my coat cannot be saved. 429 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 3: So I called my sister and told her that her 430 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: daughter has to pay it back the twenty thousand dollars 431 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: for the coat. 432 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 2: And it was her sister, the mom of the niece 433 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 2: that did this. That's the person who gave it to 434 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 2: her in the first. 435 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 3: Place, right, the mom of the I think no, I 436 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 3: think it's on the other side of the family. 437 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so this is not the yes, since the 438 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: same her sister's daughter. 439 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: Her sister isn't the one that gave it to her. 440 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: It was somebody somebody else. Ivany, she is my only 441 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 3: sister's only child, right and then she married a wealthy man. 442 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 3: The wealthy man mother god bother. Well, we got into 443 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 3: argument and she said that they will not be paying it. 444 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 3: And if I wanted a new one. I should get 445 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 3: my husband to buy it for me. I don't think 446 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 3: that let's keep going. I don't think that makes sense. 447 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 3: I think that they should pay for it. They can 448 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: afford to as well. In my opinion, they should sell 449 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 3: my niece's car and pay me back my money. Now 450 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 3: you're getting We did not reach an agreement, so I 451 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 3: told her that I will be suing and reminded her 452 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 3: that I have video evidence that her daughter A did 453 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 3: it on purpose for online clout and be exactly how 454 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 3: expensive it was your honor she did it for clouts? 455 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 3: She did? She did. People in my life are not 456 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 3: objective at all. Some are saying that they are the 457 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 3: a holes for not buying me a new one, and 458 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 3: some are so obsessed with the price of the coat 459 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 3: that they are calling me an a hole for simply 460 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 3: owning one and wanting a new one. 461 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 2: So am I the A hole? I think yes, because 462 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: the thing. It would be a different story if she 463 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: personally paid the twenty thousand, that's would have been twenty 464 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: thousand out of her account. 465 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 3: This was a gift. I don't know. 466 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 2: I I wouldn't I wouldn't go that far. I wouldn't 467 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: say sell the car and all this stuff. 468 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 3: I well, if you were gifted, maybe this is dated, 469 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 3: but if you were gifted like a like an original 470 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 3: Kanye album, right right, like maybe you didn't want that anymore. 471 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 3: Let's go Kendrick. Let's go Kenrick, right like, if you 472 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: were like gifted like a like a like a record, 473 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 3: like an unreleased Kendrick album, right, and it's worth like 474 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 3: it's worth like twenty thousand dollars right all right? And 475 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 3: then and then someone saw your your your your sister's 476 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 3: kid comes over and records a prank saying I'm going 477 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:46,239 Speaker 3: to destroy John's twenty thousand dollars sucker and smashes it 478 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 3: on the ground. Hmmm, what would you what punishment do 479 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: you think would would get through to this kid that 480 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 3: that is not okay to do? 481 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: I'd honestly, I don't know how I would do. But 482 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 2: here's what I think they should do. It's it seems 483 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: like I don't know how direct cleaning works. But I mean, 484 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 2: is it repairable? Like no, they said it isn't. 485 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 3: Oh they said it. 486 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 2: Okay, never mind, Okay, I don't know, like it's not 487 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: it doesn't. The thing I think here is it's not 488 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: like it for me. That would be sentimental and dollar value. 489 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: So like, this is something that I don't think she 490 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: really like. 491 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 3: Let's let's say let's say she cares Okay, all right, 492 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 3: that's tough. I mean I think it's okay, man, that's hard. Well, 493 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 3: she has a car. I think repercussions for the actions. 494 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 3: There needs to be repercussions, right, you sell the car 495 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 3: and you and you give the money. I don't know 496 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: if I will go that far, but I think I 497 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 3: think you know what I would do. I'd be like, 498 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 3: you're we're going to make sure she's paying me like 499 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 3: a few hundred dollars a month or whatever for the 500 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 3: rest of her life for a while. Yeah, I don't know, 501 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 3: like something like that. 502 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 2: She needs, like you know what, pay me, like give 503 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 2: me a thousand or like she probably doesn't have a 504 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: lot on her bank account, but like like let's let's 505 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: figure out what let's figure out what she has give 506 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: Let's take out a large like down payment now to 507 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 2: be like feel the pain. And she's like young, so 508 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: she'll hate that and then make her pay like a 509 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: monthly for like a long time. 510 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 3: That's probably what I would do. I would have her 511 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: sell the car honestly, woa, but the like I think 512 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 3: like she needs Like I think that would that's like 513 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 3: something taken away that actually would affect you. I mean 514 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: it would it would affect her. I think it would 515 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 3: affect her, and it would make her realize like she 516 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 3: shouldn't do shit like this. Fair fair and like I like, like, 517 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 3: let's say the car is like fifteen thousand, I I 518 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: guess have to be actually twenty thousand, or like say 519 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 3: it's even like five thousand or six thousand, Like what's 520 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,479 Speaker 3: important is you lose is something. But the thing is 521 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 3: that probably will make life just terrible for the sister 522 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 3: because then she's gonna have to drive her kid around everywhere. 523 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: Again true, but that's kind of like at this point, 524 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: it's your kid that that screwed up, So cheesh