1 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I have Mike Spoffer, joined as always 3 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: by my partner in crime, Wes Honkowitz. We're coming to 4 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: you here from our studios at Lambeoufield to review a 5 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: down to the wire last second victory twenty four to 6 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: twenty two over the Houston Texans on Sunday at Lambeufield. 7 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: The Packers have improved a five and two. There's a 8 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: lot of ground to cover with regard to this game West, 9 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: but I think the discussion from this one starts with 10 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: Jeff Haffley's defense, because while twenty two points is not 11 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: a number where you go, oh, the defense played great 12 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: when you watched what happened out there on the field, 13 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: the defense played great. 14 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: It did Mike, and it was one of the more creative, impressive, 15 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: and consistent performances I think we've seen from the Packers 16 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: defense this season. And I don't want to get hyperbolic 17 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: about it because I just got done with last week 18 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: saying okay, they only had two quarterback hits on Murray 19 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: and no sacks, but it was one of their best 20 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 2: pass rushing performances. I did feel like they built upon 21 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: that though they built upon it with their four man rush, 22 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: they built upon it with some of their third down 23 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: blitz packages. And one other trend that some of the 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: guys were talking about after the game is Averra McKinney 25 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: among them is this idea, and it's a credit to 26 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: Brian Flores and the Vikings. They were the ones that 27 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: kind of started this thing of mugging up all these 28 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: defensive players and then sometimes sending four, sometimes sending seven, 29 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: sometimes dropping guys. You just never know what you're gonna get, 30 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: and the quarterback has to be able to make sense 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: of everything. And I felt like this came in particular. 32 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: It wasn't just c J. Stroud. Their offensive line had 33 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: a hard time adjusting to those looks. It helped create 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: four tackles for a loss for Eric Wilson, two sacks, 35 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: and relief of an injured kway Walker. I think I 36 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: absolutely love what they're doing with Rashaun Gary. We talked 37 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: about the need of trying to get him moving around 38 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: a little bit more, not just having him come off 39 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: the weak side, being able to kind of build upon 40 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: some of the traits that we talked about early in 41 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: his career with having some positional versatility on the line, 42 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 2: and then first and foremost they threw for eighty six yards. 43 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: And whether that's opposition being afraid of attacking the secondary 44 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 2: now with having Xavier McKinney over the top of it, 45 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 2: whether it's just the time clock of the quarterback getting disrupted, 46 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: what have you. When you are limiting a quarterback, the 47 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: reigning NFL offensive rookie of the year to under fewer 48 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: than one hundred passing yards, you're doing something right defensively. 49 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty impressive. I mean, Joe Mixon certainly 50 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: had his share of success. He ends up rushing for 51 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: over one hundred yards, and it was interesting how that 52 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: evolved because it felt like either the Packers were stacking 53 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: up Nixon Mixon excuse me, at the line of scrimmage, 54 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: or he was getting ten or twelve yards. There weren't 55 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: really a whole lot of just the four or five 56 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: yard kind of mediocre runs. It was either they stuffed 57 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: him or he got an explosive, and through those combinations 58 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: he ends up with over one hundred yards. And the 59 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: Packers certainly had their challenge there. But you said it, 60 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: I mean, the reigning offensive rookie of the year in C. J. 61 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: Stroud comes into lambeau Field throws for only eighty six 62 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: passing yards. There's actually a net passing yards of like 63 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: fifty some because of the four sacks that for like 64 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: minus thirty one and the quite frankly going through the 65 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: defensive film and I've got a lot of clips out 66 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: there on the third downs and by what you might 67 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: have missed piece for those who want to check that out. 68 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: The Houston Texans up front, their pass protection, the calls, 69 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: the communication, whatever it was, they were just not on point. 70 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: The Packers were confusing them. The Packers were getting them 71 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: to hesitate, not quite sure you know who had whom, 72 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 1: you know what to do, and it just it led 73 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: to a lot of frustration for Stroud. Folks were talking 74 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: about how he tossed his helmet on the sideline and 75 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: you know, the Texans had the ball right at the 76 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: beginning of the game at the eleven yard line after 77 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: an interception by Jordan Love and yet had to settle 78 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: for a field goal. They had a chance to, you know, 79 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: potentially put the game away at the end with a 80 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: first down in the red zone at the two minute warning, 81 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: forcing the Packers to use their timeouts on defense there 82 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: at the end, but the defense got back to back 83 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: tackles for loss on Joe Mixon and forced the field 84 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: goal there. The Packers' defense had had multiple takeaways every 85 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: game through the first six games of the season, almost 86 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: equaling the number of takeaways from all of last regular season. 87 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: Not a single takeaway in this game, and this defense 88 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: proved that it can succeed, it can play well, it 89 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: can cause problems for opponents, not just because of the takeaways, 90 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: but because of some of the other things that Jeff 91 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: Hafley is learning about his guys and learning how to 92 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: put them in certain positions to cause the offense problem. 93 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 2: In my opinion, the Greevy Packers won this game. The 94 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: overcame that turnover deficit because of the situation going on 95 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: right now with being able to have the defensive front 96 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: getting after the quarterback the way they did. But beyond that, 97 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: third downs is huge. You have to be able to 98 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: contain the opposition in those moments. I think at one 99 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: point the Texans were two of ten and the adversity 100 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: situation that the change of game situation. The defense really 101 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: thrived in those and I was talking to Kenny Clark 102 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 2: about this after the game, and as he said, when 103 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: you look at an NFL football game, okay, when you 104 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 2: are in a spot where you are stepping up and 105 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: you can stop them. The only time it felt like 106 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 2: they were going to be able to score points is 107 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,559 Speaker 2: when the position was already stacked in their favor. Yeah, 108 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: if they made the Texans drive, they felt like they 109 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: were getting the stop. So the one real I mean, 110 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 2: there was a stretch of I think four straight three 111 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: and oh it's at least three when they were able 112 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: to mount that challenge late in the Texans were able 113 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: to get down the field the way they did, that's 114 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: when the offense stepped up. That's when Brandon McMahon stepped up. 115 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: I thought this game was a perfect example of different 116 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: phases lifting each other up at the right time. But 117 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: the backbone of all of it was the defense holding 118 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: court the way it did. 119 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you said it. Until the Texans final drive where 120 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: they kicked the field goal to take the lead with 121 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: just under two minutes to go to go, they had 122 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: only converted two third downs they got there. They got 123 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: two more third down conversions on that drive to end 124 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: up four out of thirteen in the game. But as 125 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: you said they were just two out of ten before 126 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: that last drive, and whether and you know, it's another 127 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: potpoie of individuals stepping up at different times, right, whether 128 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: it's Evan Williams getting the stop on the two point 129 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: conversion when they tried to run Joe Mixon from the 130 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: one yard line, and again that was a two point 131 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: conversion from the one yard line because of a defensive 132 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: penalty that actually moved the ball closer. You mentioned Eric Wilson. 133 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: He steps in for kway Walker, not only to play 134 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: the position, but to handle the communication, to wear the 135 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: green dot, to relay all the signals to everybody. And 136 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: Wilson not only keeps everybody defensively on the same page, 137 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: but with those those a gap looks and some of 138 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: that confusing stuff they were doing up front. He ends 139 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: up with two sacks, four tackles for loss, a pass 140 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: deflection on third down that led to a punt. Edgar 141 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: and Cooper, we see in whatever role Jeff Hafley is 142 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: giving him, the rookie linebacker is making an impact when 143 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: he's out there. Some of this different pass rush stuff. 144 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: We saw Rashan Gary kind of getting cut loose a 145 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: little bit. He was getting some you know, some runs 146 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: at the quarterback because of the you know, the stunting 147 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: and the looping around and trying to get creative in 148 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: that regard. So there was a lot a lot going 149 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: on defensively that the Texans really had trouble with. And hey, 150 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: it's a week to week league. Every game plan is 151 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: going to be different. You know, there are going to 152 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: be teams, I would say, like the Vikings a few 153 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: weeks ago, who are going to handle the Packers preuss 154 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: your packages better than the Texans did. That's going to happen. 155 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: So then what are your counters, what are your answers, 156 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: what are the adjustments you're going to make to still 157 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: try to do things? And so that's where everything with 158 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: this defense will be continue to be an evolution going forward. 159 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: And on the offensive side, I guess just call it 160 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: an up and down roller coaster kind of day. You know. 161 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: Jordan Love's touchdown passes to Tucker Craft and Dontavian Wicks 162 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: were absolutely incredible throws right on the money. Couldn't have 163 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: put it in a better spot. But he also threw 164 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: two interceptions obviously that he'd like to have back. The 165 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: offense in the second half was backed up three times 166 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: inside its own twenty yard line and went three and 167 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: out and couldn't get a first down on three consecutive possessions. 168 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: So there were all of these ups and downs with 169 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: the offense. Fortunately, Love was able to put together that 170 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: two minute drive. Buck forty four on the clock, Packers 171 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: need a field goal to win. He completes four passes 172 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: for thirty nine yards. They get another five yards thanks 173 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: to a defensive offside and Brandon McManus, the new kicker, 174 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: comes out to win the game and the Packers get 175 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: the five and two. But yet are looking at the 176 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: film on offense going, boy, we could have There's so 177 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: much more you know that the Packers could have done 178 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: in this game. So a lot to learn from. But 179 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: pulling out a game with a two minute drive right 180 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: at the end the way Jordan Love did, that's another 181 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: step forward for that young man at quarterback. 182 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: It is. And as Matt Lafleur keeps saying, the superpower 183 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: of Jordan Love is always been able to move forward. 184 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: And whatever has happened, it happened, You flush it, you 185 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: move on to the next play. He doesn't allow those 186 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: things to affect him. Now, certainly you do need to 187 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: clean it up. The eight interceptions I think currently leads 188 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: the NFL. I think the fifteen touchdowns also leads the 189 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: NFL despite him missing two games. This is a big 190 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: play quarterback, and we've all known that seeing him last season. 191 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: The exciting thing for me is that with the start 192 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: that he got off to last year and then how 193 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: steady he was down the stretch, if he can replicate that, 194 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: I mean, Jordan Love is trending in the right way, 195 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: especially as he's continually getting himself back into a rhythm. 196 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: What I loved about this game more than anything, though, 197 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: is it was another reminder, with the defense playing into 198 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 2: this as well, that the Green Bay Packers can win 199 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: football games without being perfect. Offensively, they were not perfect. 200 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: Too many take away or too many giveaways, too many 201 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: three and outs, special teams not perfect. You had the 202 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: muff punt that it hits Corey Ballentain's leg ends up 203 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: being in a turnover. You had the situation late where 204 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: Jayden Reid ends up catching the ball a little too 205 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 2: deep and they have to start deep within their own 206 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: ten yardland, their own five yard line. Certainly, as Matt 207 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: Orzek I believe told Jason Wilde after the game. The 208 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 2: snap wasn't where it needed to be. On the final 209 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 2: field goal attempt, Daniel Wheelan made it right, Brandon McManus 210 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 2: made the adjustment. They banged it through. So many different 211 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 2: guys were able to pull through for this football team. 212 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: They didn't rupture, they didn't lapse, They were able to 213 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: continue pushing forward. These are the games I feel like, 214 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 2: especially when you're playing a five to one football team, 215 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 2: that you can learn the most from because Mike, they 216 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: didn't do this against the Minnesota Vikings. They didn't do 217 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 2: this in the opener against the Philadelphia Eagles. They did 218 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: this against the Texas. They found a way to get 219 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: that victory. And now as you press forward and cannot 220 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 2: look past the Jacksonville Jaguars, you have to take care 221 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: of business this week, but they have another one in 222 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 2: two weeks on deck against the Detroit Lions. The stakes 223 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: are going to get higher more and more as you 224 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: press through this season. I feel like early crucibles like 225 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: this are the things that really galvanize a football team. 226 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And as much as there were all these 227 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: ups and downs on offense, you said it, there were 228 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: ups and downs on special teams as well. Because there 229 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: were the miscues on the punt returns. But man, what 230 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: Daniel Wheelan did both as a punter and as a 231 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: holder in this game. I mean five punts he averages 232 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: fifty eight yards gross, but more importantly fifty one yards net. 233 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're averaging fifty plus yards net, punting 234 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: when you have to punt that many times in a game, 235 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: that's where your punter is is significantly impacting field position. 236 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: I mentioned you know the three straight three and outs 237 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: when the Packers were backed up. Well, the Texans after 238 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: those three punts from the Packers being backed up, they 239 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: didn't start any of those drives in front of their 240 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: own forty yard line. I believe it was like the 241 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty two and then thirty eight, and 242 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: the thirty eight at the end was the one where 243 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: then they put together their drive to get the field goal. 244 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: But though, when a punter is punting from the goal line, 245 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: you know with the snap putting him on the on 246 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: the goal line to kick the ball, teams are hoping 247 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: to be able to get the ball the forty to 248 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: forty five to fifty. That didn't happen any of those 249 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: times when Wheelan was kicking and then with the hold 250 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: at the end, of course, everything goes perfectly smoothly with 251 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: the operation. When the Texans call the time out to 252 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: try to ice McManus right, everything is, everything is picture perfect. 253 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: The kick is absolutely right down the middle, splits the uprights, 254 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: but then you have to do it again and uh 255 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: and Wheeland got a difficult snap there for McManus. It 256 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: wasn't the kick wasn't exactly right down the middle, but 257 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: it is obviously good hugging right inside the upright there 258 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: that that hold. Man, I mean, you and I were 259 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: sitting next to each other in the press box and 260 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: both of us kind of what you know, when when 261 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: when we saw that snap, it. 262 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: Was to our end zone, you know, like that's the 263 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: one we're nearest to. 264 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we we had a we had a 265 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: perfect view of it, and it was it was oh boy, 266 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: you know. And uh, you can't give enough credit to 267 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: uh to Daniel wheel and he's he's a second year 268 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: punter who really just learned all the nuances and the 269 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: details and everything that go into whole for place kicks 270 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: last year as a rookie, and he looks like one 271 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: of the best in the business. Right. I mean, it's 272 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: really been impressive what he's done. 273 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: I say this all the time. It was one of 274 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: my big lines at Inbox today. I could not care 275 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 2: less where Daniel Wheeland ranks against other punters in the 276 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: National Football League. I don't know where his average or 277 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: his gross average net average punts inside the twenty. I 278 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: don't know where any of that stuff figures in. But 279 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: I've always held this maxim same thing with when Mason 280 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: Crosby was here. Mason Crosby was never a pro bowler, 281 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: and he had a couple down seasons, but for the 282 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: most part improved throughout his career and was a real 283 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: stall work for them in that area. If you have 284 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: confidence in your specialists to fulfill the job, that's the 285 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: only thing that matters. 286 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, when you know you have your guy, 287 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, he's not gonna you know, nobody's honor 288 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: percent perfect. There's going to be a couple of hiccups 289 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: here and there. But when you know you have your guy, 290 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: that puts everybody at ease. Everybody has the confidence that 291 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: the job is going to get done. 292 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: And punting is so circumstantial too, because you can get 293 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 2: to the forty five yard line and then the I 294 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: has to punt and he's trying to pin him in 295 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: there for maybe thirty six yard net and that's going 296 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: to hurt your average Daniel Wheelan with his body type, 297 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: with his hands, with everything he brings to the party 298 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: here for the Packers, he has. While there's been all 299 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 2: this consternation over the kicking position the last year and 300 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: a half, Daniel Whelan has quietly settled the punting thing, 301 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: which had been a rotating door for the last decade 302 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: at that position. Basically since Tim Massday was let go 303 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, the Packers have been going through one 304 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: punter after the next. Yep, Daniel Wheelan's the guy. And 305 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: it's just been incredible to watch his maturation because it's 306 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: not that he just won the job and then okay, 307 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: well now you just roll with him. No. I mean, 308 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: this guy has become one of the real central characters 309 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: of this football team with the way in which he's 310 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: affecting field position. 311 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a field He's an anchor. He's an 312 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: anchor on this special teams unit. There's no question about that. 313 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take care of a little bit of sponsor 314 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: business here West serious XM NFL Radio delivers hard hitting 315 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: analysis and up to the minute NFL news that true 316 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: football fanatics need. Twenty four to seven, three sixty five 317 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: and at Cousin Subs, we have something for everyone. Like everyone, 318 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: like our Wisconsin cheese curds, mac and cheese, golden fries, 319 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: and creamy shakes, all paired with your favorite sub or 320 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: sub and a bowl a Cousin Subs fifty plus years 321 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: of better. All right, Well, the good news is the 322 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: Packers are five and two. The bad news is five 323 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: and two is only good for third place in the 324 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: NFC North because the Detroit Lions squeaked it out against 325 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings in a wildly entertaining game. I mean, 326 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,239 Speaker 1: I obviously wasn't watching it, but I watched the highlights 327 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: and I was kind of like, wow, did everybody get 328 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: their money's worth in that one? As well? Detroit beats 329 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: Minnesota on a late field goal after blowing an eleven 330 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: point lead in the fourth quarter. Detroit is five and one, 331 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: Minnesota is five and one, Green Bay is five and two, 332 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: and the Chicago Bears, who were on their by this 333 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: past week, are four and two. There are if I 334 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: counted it, correctly Wes after Tampa Bay's loss on Monday 335 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: Night Football to the Baltimore Ravens. I believe six of 336 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: the eight divisions in the NFL have a team with 337 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: at least five wins. There are two divisions that do not. 338 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: Do I have that right? What? Six? Six of the 339 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: eight yeah, yep, six of the eight have a team 340 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,959 Speaker 1: with five wins five or more wins. My point is 341 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: the NFC North is the only one with more than 342 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: one team with five wins, and the NFC North has three. 343 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: And also the AFC North. Now because Baltimore went less. 344 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: Oh because Baltimore, Baltimore. 345 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: That's the AFC. That's right, Because in the NFC they're 346 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: the only thing. Because that's right. Baltimore got its fifth win. 347 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: And Pittsburgh also have has five wins because they won 348 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: on Sunday Night full again, they ran through the Jets. 349 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: So two divisions in the NFL with multiple teams with 350 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: five plus but the NFC North has three teams with 351 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: five plus wins this race for the division championship. The 352 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: Packers have played the Vikings and the Vikings got that win. 353 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: The Vikings have played the Lions and the Lions got 354 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: that win. Those are the only division games that have 355 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: been played so far. This race for the division title 356 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: is barely getting started. 357 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: I've heard so many good things about Cole Comet down 358 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 2: in Chicago, and I've and just watching him from Afar. 359 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 2: I've gained a lot of appreciation for the way he speaks, 360 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: obviously the way he plays, and it was really interesting. 361 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 2: On Monday, as the Bears are getting back from their 362 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 2: bye week, he met with the media and they were 363 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 2: asking him about the North and he said, yeah, I mean, 364 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: I'm not crazy about this. I mean, why would you be. 365 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: You don't You don't necessarily want to be in a 366 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: situation where you're you're having to be four and two 367 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: and in fourth place right now. Yeah, But as he said, 368 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,719 Speaker 2: these are also the games you want to play in. 369 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 2: These are this is the type of competition you want 370 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 2: to have, especially for a young team like that trying 371 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 2: to improve. It is going to be an absolute barn 372 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 2: burner to the finish line. I just don't think there's 373 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 2: gonna be any scenario in the next month that would 374 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 2: change that. There's gonna be so many division games in 375 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 2: the NFC North that are going to really dictate not 376 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: only who's in the lead of this thing to try 377 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 2: to claiming that championship but also trying to get into 378 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: the playoffs there. So there's a lot that goes into that. 379 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: I felt the Detroit Minnesota game you mentioned the down 380 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 2: to the wire nature of that thing. One, I think 381 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: it worked out to green Bay's benefit the fact that 382 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 2: Detroit won they got that zero finally off of the 383 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: Minnesota vikings. But two, it was another reminder that it 384 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 2: wasn't like Detroit or Minnesota played poorly. Both of those 385 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: teams did exactly what they've been doing. Jamiir Gibbs was 386 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: fantastic in that game. Jared Goff got off to another 387 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 2: incredible start, twelve straight completions to start that game. Aaron 388 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 2: Jones came back from the hamstring injury to have a 389 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: very Aaron Jones type performance. Sam Darnold, with the exception 390 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: of one in was very efficient for them. Those teams 391 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,239 Speaker 2: are good football teams, good well coached football teams, and 392 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: in the Packers are going to have their hands full 393 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: in two weeks against the Lions. But that being said, 394 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: the North is as difficult and as treacherous as everybody's 395 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: making it out to be. There's just so many playmakers 396 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: in this division, and honestly, I think a part of 397 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 2: that Packers have been what they've been, But all these 398 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: teams have made really savvy offseason moves, whether it's the 399 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: drafting of the Chicago Bears, whether it's the Detroit Lions 400 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: with their process that they've been going through the last 401 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: four years, or Minnesota just completely overhauling the roster last season. 402 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think there's in some ways there's already 403 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: a lesson to be learned from the two division games 404 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: that have been played so far in the NFC North, 405 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: because we saw the Vikings get up twenty eight to 406 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: nothing on the Packers, where nothing was going right for 407 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: Green Bay, everything is going right for Minnesota, and then 408 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: the Packers make this furious comeback and end up losing 409 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: by just two. Right then you look at how that 410 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: Lions Vikings game went on Sunday. The Vikings jump on 411 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: top ten to nothing in the early portion of the game. 412 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: The middle portion of the game, the Lions completely dominate 413 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: the Vikings by believe a twenty eight to seven count, 414 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: because then the score is twenty eight to seventeen heading 415 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: into the fourth quarter. Then the Vikings score twelve straight 416 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: points to go ahead twenty nine to twenty eight, and 417 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: then the Lions sort of they had the ball last 418 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: kind of thing and end up getting in position to 419 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: make the field goal. And actually I saw I don't 420 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: know the details of it, but I saw some kind 421 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: of a headline that referred to if it hadn't been 422 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: for the Vikings getting the Vikings got the ball back 423 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: with like fifteen seconds to go, and if it hadn't 424 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: been for some kind of a penalty on Minnesota, they 425 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: would have had they would have had a chance at 426 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: a sixty eight yard field legal formation, illegal formation, that's 427 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: what it was. They would have had a chance at 428 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: a sixty eight yard field goal. And apparently they were 429 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: going to let will Reikerd, the rookie kicker. They were 430 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: going to let him try it. They're in us, Yeah, 431 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: they were going to let him try that, and it 432 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: didn't happen because then they ended up getting backed up 433 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: another five yards. But my point is we've seen two 434 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: NFC North Division games so far, and they've both been 435 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: just these back and forth kind of you know, wild 436 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: and crazy type of affairs. So whether it's you know, 437 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: the Lions and the Bears, the Packers and the Bears, 438 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: the you know, Lions, and the Packers in a couple 439 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: of weeks. I think these are the kind of games 440 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: that we can expect in this division the rest of 441 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: the way. 442 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: All these games are going to be in the second 443 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: half of the season too. Like I mentioned, I think 444 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: on the last show, the Lions and Packers are the 445 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 2: only one before Week ten. Now, so I mean you 446 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 2: will have had two three at that point division matchups 447 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: in the first nine weeks that the season. That's remarkable. 448 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: The Packers will have finished up against the AFC South 449 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 2: by the time they play their second NFC North team, 450 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 2: yeah Wi Yeah. 451 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: And that last, that last AFC South team the Packers 452 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: have to play as the Jacksonville Jaguars. That will be 453 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: this week's upcoming opponent. We'll talk about them more on 454 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: our next show. You got anything, I'm not letting you 455 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: leave yet. 456 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: One. We also got to make sure we talk about 457 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: the NFL Draft. We got to get that in. I do. 458 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm ready for that. 459 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: Before you do that, though, I need to mention one 460 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 2: last thing because when we transitioned to the segment the 461 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 2: first time, I wasn't completely done talking about this matchup 462 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 2: against the Houston Texas. So I'm going to give you 463 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: my three stars, my three underrated stars that we have 464 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 2: not discussed yet. We don't have to know, and I 465 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: just want to make sure, Oh this goes on. I 466 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 2: want to hear it now. Okay, Josh Jacobs had his 467 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 2: first NFL receiving touchdown. The Packers had had that in 468 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: all week. They finally got it into play. He scores. 469 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: That was really cool and noteworthy, and then there was 470 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 2: some really nice banter back and forth about it being 471 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 2: whether he should keep the football, Tucker Craft giving it 472 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 2: to him, him wanting to give it to Jordan Love 473 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: because it was his fiftieth passing touchdown. We'll see where 474 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: that ends up happening. It was even more important, though, 475 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 2: the fact that Josh Jacobs had twelve carries for seventy 476 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 2: six yards, the reversals, the end a rounds, the receiver stuff. 477 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 2: Houston was hipped to it, and the Packers stayed in 478 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 2: front of that. Though with how Josh Jacobs ran the football, 479 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: two Romeo Dobs bawled out on some day, eight catches 480 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 2: ninety four yards. I don't know if there was a 481 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: single one of them that wasn't meaningless. Every single one 482 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 2: of them, including on the final drive to set up 483 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: the touchdown. Ye insane game by Rome and showed really 484 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: good hands throughout that. I mean again the possession receiver 485 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: that I think has become the Jordan Nelson, the DeVante 486 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: Adams to Jordan Love that Adams and Nelson were to Rogers. Lastly, 487 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs, for all the pomp and circumstance before the games, 488 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: had five catches for twenty three yards. I believe this 489 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 2: was Bill Rabier who had mentioned this to me while 490 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: we were waiting to go in the locker room. I 491 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: believe it was in nine games he has like ten 492 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 2: touchdowns against Green Bay. 493 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, he had had a streak. He had had a 494 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: streak of I believe it was eight consecutive games against 495 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: the Packers between his time with Minnesota obviously when he 496 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: was playing twice a year, and then also with Buffalo. 497 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: He had scored a touchdown against the Packers like eight 498 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: straight times and he didn't come close to one. 499 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: On Nico Collins isn't on the field. That's a huge 500 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: loss for them. The Packers pressured CJ. Stroud constantly, but 501 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 2: I think that's a huge credit to jy R. Alexander. 502 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: It's a huge credit to Keishawn Nixon when he was 503 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: matched up in how Green Bay defended it. Could say 504 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 2: what you want about Jay R, but I'm telling you, man, 505 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 2: just guy is one heck of an NFL cornerback. Yeah 506 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: he is. That's it Now I'm done talking. 507 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: No, that's okay. Sorry, I didn't let you get to 508 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: that stuff. 509 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: No, it was okay. We talked about a lot already. 510 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 2: There was a lot to discuss out of this game, 511 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: but it was just like, once we get to Thursday, 512 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: it's not gonna be able to discuss as much. Dobbs, 513 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: Jacobs and jah I felt like had three of the 514 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 2: most noteworthy performances without having an insane touchdown catch like 515 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: Tucker Kraft or you know, the TFLs and the sacks 516 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: and everything. It's just they were just so consistent. The 517 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: Packers don't win this game without them. Yeah, absolutely, thank you. 518 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: I'll pay you in paper and coins. 519 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: No, I have to pay you back now with this 520 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: NFL Draft promo, because the countdown to the twenty twenty 521 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: five NFL Draft in Green Bay has begun. Mark your 522 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: calendars for April twenty fourth through April twenty six twenty 523 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: twenty five and visit green bait dot com slash Draft 524 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 1: twenty five for more information. 525 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 2: It's six months away, brou I know, unbelievable. 526 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: We have a lot to get through before then, but yeah, 527 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: you're right, it's only. 528 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 2: Six months away. 529 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: It's only six months. 530 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: When you get to advanced age like you and I like, 531 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 2: six months is not that far away. Like to a 532 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: fifteen year old, they'd be like, oh, that's like three 533 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: years away, dude. But I mean, like to me, it's 534 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: like we're gonna blink and that's gonna be here already. 535 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: Yes, we are. We are gonna blink, So keep your 536 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: eyes open because we got a lot of football left 537 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. Yeah, or you get to the 538 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: draft in twenty five. But with that, we'll call it 539 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscript. You'd be 540 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: sure to follow all of our coverage of the team 541 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: on Packers dot com for Wes, I am Mike. Thank 542 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: you for tuning in everybody. We will see you next time.